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Forster Datum Dial: One Tool for Sizing and Bullet Seating Checks (updated)
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- Опубліковано 15 сер 2024
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The Forster Datum dial is a new tool you can use to check base-to-datum for cases (typically for sizing die depth), and also for base-to-ogive (typically for bullet seating depth). All you need is the Forster Datum Dial and a set of calipers, and you're ready to go!
*Note: this is an updated version of the video: I fixed a couple technical issues that I had stated incorrectly in the first upload (no longer public)
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Sold, done w the Hornady set.
Once again a excellent review of new products. Thanks Gavin
Thanks for the video. You nail it down for us every time. Extremely useful content on all your videos. Thank you !!!!
Thanks for this review, this is the best tool for checking bullet seating and measuring! I love it. Thanks,
It is a good looking tool and I am sure it is accurate coming from Forster. I don’t think I would care to take the tool apart ever time I want to swap between datum measuring and ogive measuring. I keep two separate calipers for each task using the Hornady comparators like most folks do, which works out just fine. If I was starting out and didn’t have Hornady set then this might be a good way to go.
Agree , plus both Hornady comparators cheaper that this set too !
That workshop is never used LOL, looks fantastic and ohhh so clean.
Thanks for the update video I think I will add this to my tool selection 😄 thanks the price is great
Great video. Just ordered it
Getting small holes on paper is putting a big hole in my savings account 👍
That would be so funny if it wasn't true!
im loving the accuracy, and bragging rights
True story I am just getting into reloading and have spent over $1500 on a press and dies only.🤦♂️
Yes myself as well ++++
@@martysherwood8853 It's Only $$$$.
Is reloading Cheaper? Not nowadays if you have to start buying everything again Good thing we bought a crap ton of primers LARGE RIFLE included and Tac, R-26 Retumbo, and VargetPODWER back in the day when it was $20-$35 ..!
Just order on though you link! Great video!
My 1st concern with this piece of equipment from Forster would be VLD Bullets bottoming out on their Meplat. I had that happening with another Companies product and had to buy a body extension to keep from hitting the Meplat before getting a 'true' reading off the Ogive.
Ok, I have a question. On .223, the bullet weights go from 40 grain to over 70. The ogive dimensionally is in the same position from the base. In any configuration of that .223 bullet, it is always the same. Right now, any other caliber is not important. The over all cartridge length seems to only matter when it comes to fitting into the magazine and through the breach into the chamber. -lease explain. Thanks.
Gavin great review of a wonderful product. I'm a big fan of Forster products case I have a coax press and a lot of their micrometer bullet seating dies. Can't wait to get my hands on one of these set ups. Be ordering really soon. A little off topic but did you happen to watch the Democratic Socialist during their debate? It's pretty clear they want to take $0.70 on every dollar you make to find illegal immigrants with housing food and Medical Care not to mention taking away every semi-automatic firearm in the US. We all have to do our part to push forward a positive influence on today's younger children that are just now becoming adults and being able to vote. I cannot believe after living through the Cold War against socialism that this country is actually got a Democratic Socialist Party that wants to take every freedom away from every man woman and child in this country. I know you're not big into Political agendas but this is something I feel we all need to make a step in the positive direction for. We need to let the Socialist Democratic party know we will not stand for this in the United States of America we the people tell them what to do not the other way around. God bless and take care, Echo.
Thanks Gavin.
Wow this tool looks really helpful 🇳🇴🇺🇸
Thanks Gavin... but why is this more expensive device any better than the Hornady or Sinclair caliper attachments?
The Datum Dial is a really nice mechanism, and packaged in a compact way. The Hornady/Sinclair tools are good as well, but there's more pieces to deal with. The finish (Anodizing) on the datum dial wheels is better, seems like it will hold up better.
What calipers do you recommend?
Does the job
Is this not the same as a comparator measurement? We are looking at the growth of the case shoulder correct?
This is a pretty dang neat tool..How much is this bad boy?
You have some really nice tools behind you.Like that $6K Precision Matthews mill behind you..I bet you can build as good of a rifle as money can buy. Thanks Gavin
107 on sale for the premium at optics planet
@@deadmanshand1330 I think that's a pretty fair price.And it looks pretty handy.Thanks
What are your favourite scope mounts for a 34mm tube scope with 56mm bell on a 6.5 CM Remington Precision Rifle with picatiny rail?
@@TexasTrained cantilever 6 bolt per ring. Built in 20 moa. Flat top for level. Lapped
What about the rifle's bolt face/head to olive or shoulder measurements... What tool would you recommend
hey mate nice video, what callipers do you use? cheers
Love your content! Hate the way you say "measurement" LOL (may-shur-mint)
Can’t un-hear it now…
So, I guess I'll ask the same question as last time again. I'm curious, are the edges of the datum holes sharp so you can get true head space dimensions, or are the edges eased only allowing you to get comparative dimensions?
They have only the very slightest breaking of the edge- I believe designed to give true readings. I'll ask FORSTER!
@@Ultimatereloader Thanks
In my option. Any gauges like these or the Hornady is a relative number to you. Just the machining tolerance can very from one to another. The number you get is for you and you only if your looking to get within a thousand. If you use the same one every time you’ll be good.
I ordered it and sent it back a week later. Unlike Gavin's mine had straight cut holes vs beveled edge holes. The tool was marking up bullets and brass because, like Gavin, I like to spin brass/bullets to get everything trued up. Hornadys comparitor doesn't mark up brass/bullets. It's unfortunate, I like and use Forster products.
We're can a guy get a primer seating tool that you have
Thats a real neet tool, but how then do you bump the shoulder back ? Yup I'm new to all this rifle stuff. Thanks for your always great videos. Doug from Ottawa.
I've noticed on my 308 that 4x fired neck-sized brass is almost impossible to close when I don't reload to 2.80".
The neck die obviously pushes the shoulder back because it was set up in the press that way.
The easiest way is to get a Redding competition shell holder set. They bump the should in .002” increments
Hi Gavin, does this do Barrett 416?
I have a few questions is there any way to contact you. Great videos all the time.Thanks
Basically a different option than the Hornady tools? Is it more exact? How about a head to head comparison?
I feel the Hornady is a better option, it's cheaper and more flexible imo
@@TubeDobs I agree. Hornady comparator with insert kit and you can not only check shoulder bump, but also ogive to lands.
@@rdtaguestudios but Forster’s tool also has the option to measure base to ogive. Watch the Uro until the end.
Great tool, thanks for sharing, God bless
In your opinion, which single stage press for 338 Lapua Magnum is the most consistent and best bang for the buck? Plus do you have a video from start to finish of 338 lapua reloading with tools needed?
Love the idea of the 338 series- I will do something with the larger projectiles eventually :). In the 338 game, I'd focus on capacity and quality. Check out my 14 press comparison video and article! ultimatereloader.com/2019/04/08/fourteen-reloading-presses-compared-single-stage-shootout/
Cool
I understand the theory behind these types of measurement devices but the question I have, in the case of base to datum, where can this information be found? None of the case drawings I've looked at list the base to datum dimension.
Just check the SAAMI website. In the cartridge diagram, search for numbers noted with a circle with a “x” inside, these measurements are the headspace (horizontal) and datum diameter (vertical).
In the 6.5 creedmoor example like in the video, you will find the reference datum diameter is indeed 0.400” according to SAAMI.
@@VincitOmniaVeritas7 Thank you!
Well, I hate you just a little more now (LOL) as I just ordered one from Brownells with 10% off, great looking tool
Is anyone currently using this tool? Wondering about it’s track record at this point.
I ordered it and sent it back a week later. Unlike Gavin's mine had straight cut holes vs beveled edge holes. The tool was marking up bullets and brass because, like Gavin, I like to spin brass/bullets to get everything trued up. Hornadys comparitor doesn't mark up brass/bullets. It's unfortunate, I like and use Forster products.
@@topro941 Thanks for sharing your experience and perspective!
@@topro941 I’ve had only bad experiences with Forster’s accessories so far and the many negative reviews from other costumers show that I’m not alone.
Micrometers
You would need to face the center bolt off 2 thou. It is protruding out.
Reupload?
N24RE yes- it’s in the title- updated with technical fixes :)
N24RE
Says updated
I had a very well known custom rifle maker tell me If you’re measuring with calipers you might as well use a yardstick
What did he use? I'd love to know.
@@eddieb9110 a dial caliper with specific metallic inserts/bases probably. A bit of exaggeration since I’ve seen many long range precision champions using them.
anyone else think he says measurement very oddly?
Well he's adapting to the human-shaped suit pretty well but some things are just hard.
God I hat your channel. I just bought one. I'm going broke just to get a smaller smaller spread on a target.
Foster case trimmers are slow and suck