Listen to Nancy Grace's latest updates on this case: Early toxicology results for three friends found dead outside a Chiefs watch party, reportedly show cocaine and fentanyl in their systems: apple.co/494y6tY
I think the owner was just "lucky" and slept off the drugs that his friends overdosed on - probably was in a drug stupor for 2 days if it was strong enough to kill the other three. Makes total sense to me.
I can sleep for 2 days and not touch my phone , I often haven't left my house for days, or even opened my blinds , some people, if they are off work, relax in their home and don't leave . Rehab for the drugs
I'm a person in recovery. After benders, I'd sleep up to 3 days. I currently work with those who use drugs. Unfortunately, this is our reality everywhere with Fentanyl in literally all drugs. Either Willis didn't partake, or he had a tolerance for Fentanyl the others didn't. Also, I worked from home for 5 years & I wouldn't leave my house very often & I definitely didn't check my yard. I truly believe this was, in fact, an accidental overdose. People OD together every day. Test your supply with Fentanyl test strips. Don't everyone use at the same time. As for the guy going to rehab, Im sure this situation was a nightmare of a wake-up call. Everything in this story happens in real life, it just usually happens to people who society views as disposable; therefore, you don't hear about it.
I do not do drugs but sometimes I do not go outside for days. I just like to be in my home when I’m not working. I actually currently have not been outside in over 24 hours. So that is not super unusual to me. I’m not saying there was no foul play. It’s too early for that. But I just think not going outside for 2 days doesn’t seem strange to me. Especially the back yard. Ugh. Still so tragic and sorry for the lives lost and to the families 🙌🏽
@@mahalalettvin7675 IMO it is because it was first reported as “ three Chiefs fans freeze to death “The word Chiefs got everyone going because of Taylor Swift and her romance . Sounds dumb I know , but we Americans are not the brightest bunch .,
@@mahalalettvin7675 Agree, I think it was cuz family keep saying that they didn’t do drugs that they were murdered or poisoned. Unfortunately they didn’t know them that well. As for me I know I cannot say me son doesn’t do drugs because you never know what their into without you knowing.
You may think that but there's people who know and won't say anything because 9 times out of 10, someone knows what you're doing but you're functioning etc so they'll think it's not that bad or he wouldn't be working and so on!
Social user's don't do what full blown addicts are willing to do! Something could have happened and dude freaked out and lied trying to cover up the death's! Well he's not safe from the law arresting him in rehab!
That girlfriend knew. It’s not normal to immediately break down a door before walking around the back to peer in or test the back doorknob unless you suspect an overdose.
I do not believe they used drugs. The drank beer 🍺. But that Sunday night they needed to get home. These are men with jobs and families. J drugged them I’m sure of it. He mixed up something to have friends be high with him and he mixed up way too much, 30 times too much ! All three men died at the exact same time. I can see three men drinking a beer and then they were gone, then he got help to pull them outside. And he took their phones wallets and keys and set their 2 day figuring out what he would do, I think he had the dog moved too. No way they froze to death, they were deceased before being moved outside. This is a mess! I was in 9 degrees that same weekend. I spent 1 hour outside in 9 degree s making a video. I’m fine ! And we don’t get cold weather much where I live but these 3 men grew up in that climate. They know what to do In cold weather. They were not alive when they were put outside. The odds of all three dying at the same time is extremely odd. The odds of J not knowing they were deceased outside in the yard are zero.
This case makes me realize how little people understand the dangers of fentanyl and other drugs coming into this country. These kind of cases need to go viral everyday. 33 suffered mass overdose in Oregon. West Point cadets mass overdose last year on spring break.
Bethany, my precious beautiful son. he was in the military,it didnt happen on the battle field, but he is still my hero. he was always helping others. i knew i was in this battle, praying all the time doing what i could, law enforcement seemed to work against me. he was working out of town. charlotte mecklenburg pd did nothing. they didnt even open his cell phone. and even put me in my place for asking too many questions. i was going to get a lawyer but too devistated. but i have started to fight again. fasting and prayer is best fight against fentanyl and guard our borders. and if anyone has a loved one struggling and nothing seems to work, Love and Listen. I felt as though the Lord told me to Love and Listen. I was distracted, I was helping a friend when it happened.
I've slept almost 48 hours before only getting up to use the restroom, without anything in my system. If he done the same stuff the other three did, it's not hard to imagine him doing the same, and not dying because he was inside.
Same! I do not do drugs. But I actually can just stay in bed and not leave my house for 2 or more days. So that part does not seem unusual to me. I do know people who have been under an influence and they’ve just laid there for days. It’s definitely a strange sad story and so sorry for the victims and families. I couldn’t imagine.
It COMPLETELY screams fentanyl. One guy just went inside for whatever, and nodded out. The other three nodded out outside and froze. My guess it that the guy in the most likely came very close to dying himself. So many people are taking fentanyl and don't even know it. One guy I use to know, he bought some cocaine to stay up and work, and his girlfriend found him dead from fentanyl.
@@adrianhenderson4627 Imagine the trouble he’s going to be in for distribution if he was the one who gave them the drugs that killed them…not to mention the guilt he has to live with.
If you read the facts of this case, Nancy Grace who is good at what she does, is really over selling this as a mysterious foul-play story.. what makes the most sense is exactly what the police said happened. They all got together to drink beers and took some illicit drugs.. which was admitted by the gentleman who's friends died. If these men took something that they are not used to, it made them pass out.. unfortunately for the friends, they all passed out on the back patio. And froze to death before they woke up. Put yourself in the guy's shoes who lived, he wakes up after being asleep for more than 48 hours straight, to find police at his feet telling him his friends are all dead outside. This man has had no time to mourn the loss of his friends, but instead is having to deal with accusations that he did something wrong. People seem to forget that investigators and police officers do this for a living, and they would have known immediately had there been foul play.. the reason I know for certain this is possible is because my sister and her boyfriend once passed out on our back patio.. and they were just drinking beers! We found them half Frozen at 9:00 a.m. the next morning. Thank goodness it was an Arizona winter, and not the snowy winter as is in this story.. sometimes the simplest explanation is the right one, even when it's hard to believe. People this day and age just have to have some foul play involved in stories like this because simple explanations aren't great for news media and personalities like Nancy Grace .. it's an absolute disgrace what these families, and the media has done to this poor man..
@@kathygillman5450 100% agree…Unless you are an alcoholic, recovering alcoholic or a family member or friend of an alcoholic this probably will never make sense. Unfortunately this was probably a tragic accident.
The girlfriend saying her boyfriend was not a drug addict. He doesn't have to be an addict in order to imbibe (aggressively) on occasion. Sorry, but that's the truth.
Family almost always states that their loved one does not do drigs, even casually. It’s not called a disease of denial for nothing. The family is affected as well.
If you read the facts of this case, Nancy Grace who is good at what she does, is really over selling this as a mysterious foul-play story.. what makes the most sense is exactly what the police said happened. They all got together to drink beers and took some illicit drugs.. which was admitted by the gentleman who's friends died. If these men took something that they are not used to, it made them pass out.. unfortunately for the friends, they all passed out on the back patio. And froze to death before they woke up. Put yourself in the guy's shoes who lived, he wakes up after being asleep for more than 48 hours straight, to find police at his feet telling him his friends are all dead outside. This man has had no time to mourn the loss of his friends, but instead is having to deal with accusations that he did something wrong. People seem to forget that investigators and police officers do this for a living, and they would have known immediately had there been foul play.. the reason I know for certain this is possible is because my sister and her boyfriend once passed out on our back patio.. and they were just drinking beers! We found them half Frozen at 9:00 a.m. the next morning. Thank goodness it was an Arizona winter, and not the snowy winter as is in this story.. sometimes the simplest explanation is the right one, even when it's hard to believe. People this day and age just have to have some foul play involved in stories like this because simple explanations aren't great for news media and personalities like Nancy Grace .. it's an absolute disgrace what these families, and the media has done to this poor man..
Also why did she not walk around the house to the back door/porch before breaking in? That’s more normal behavior when you just haven’t heard from someone and their cars are out front. Most people would walk around to try and peek in and test the back door, look for a key under a mat, etc before breaking in to a home. UNLESS you see the cars and panic and suspect overdose because you know there is a drug history.
The coke must have been laced with fentynl. Doesn't mean that the guy in rehab is responsible unless he shoved it up their noses. Everyone is responsible for their own actions.
Heard a detective on the case said “ it will make more sense when we are ready to announce our findings” so the police clearly know what happened. Dude checks in to rehab? Sounds like ODs to me.
Or…CYA, COVER YOUR ASS. He lawyered up, his attorney recommended he show he’s accepted his responsibility in this tragedy, on his property, with drugs he supplied? (possibly)
This reminds me of Comedian Kate Quigley who survived a drug overdose that killed three friends, saying she woke up “to find people dead” in her house.
Yes and so Nancy assumes this guy killed them? So they were drinking - decided to do more and had either too much or bad drugs. Still not this guy murdering them - jeeze
That's not black out. I'm a licensed addiction counselor. Blackouts are when people lose track of time. It doesn't mean passing out. People wake up to people they don't know..don't remember how they got home..
I'm guilty of 2 days in bed,food and bathroom breaks..no looking out window or door and no calls..exhausted from working 5 reg overnight shifts..😅shut add drugs or alcohol I could easily go 3/ 4 days as such.😢
All three died at exactly the same time? ⁉️The last one standing didn’t see the other 2 unconscious and think “maybe I should get help from a neighbor because were locked out” 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
The "friend" lawyering up and entering rehab....telltale signs of a guilty person. God bless these families. I think they're going to be shocked at the toxicology and COD!!
People have 3 lives, their public life, their private life, and their secret life. Obviously these men had secret lives, also friends, family, and partners think they would never do these things. That's where the secret life comes in. No one knows everything.🤔
Right? Sorry, but they're lying to themselves to say "he would never." I give it a month & other people who know these men will start blasting all the red flags they saw about drug use.
That would explain a lot. The owner became incapacitated and slept it off. The others were outside became incapacitated and froze to death. So very sad. I understand the home owner checked into rehab.😮😮
The owner has been giving inconsistent stories because he knew the drugs would be found in toxicology, and he participated too. But, it's strange there is hardly any mention of the time frame of the 5th person being there. If they were drinking that much and also using drug, they didn't suddenly wait until they left and went outside to use drugs. They would have been partying all night, and the two who survived know what happened.
@@pureprairienot to mention the reason he didn’t answer the phone was because I believe he was busy cleaning up the crime scene and the cops allowed him to pack up and move yes he definitely knew what had happened he was the master mind so to speak but apparently really not that bright thinking he would just keep changing his story and nobody would notice he is the only one that lived like the math is mathing he did it to them
Addicts are created in their first 18 months of life during which they suffered trauma.but have no recall. Dr Gabor Mate's work in that field is worth a look.
Amen. 💗 May God be with all those struggling with addictions, keep them SAFE! ❤️ May God bring them to treatment that WORKS, & proper help, & healing, & comfort, strength, & support, & Light, Hope, & Peace. 💗 And, may God be with those who Love & care for peole with addictions. ❤️ May God bring us patience, compassion, & care, knowledge, insight, & Divine Guidance in how we deal with our beloveds struggling with addictions.❤️ May God bring us strength, & support, comfort, & healing, & Light, & Hope, & Peace.❤️ May God end addictions for us & those whom we Love.💗
The LOVE of Jesus SAVED ME! He delivered me from drug addiction and an eating disorder..He restored my marriage and gave me a reason to live...yes HIS love SAVED ME!
Why is it so hard to believe a person doesn't look out the window. In the last 3 months I went out in the back yard once. I leave my curtains closed and I never look out. I don't think it is so far fetched to think a person/people don't look out their windows.
I’ve slept for 3 to 4 days in the past when I was extremely depressed. Only getting up to use the bathroom. I’ve never used drugs in my life. It could be worse if I did. Those are strange circumstances but we need a toxicology report first.
All of these interviews are for making money. Even thought this is very tragic and sad case, nobody on these channels has Mentioned that if people are using, there are Tests -Strips that test if a "thing" has Fent in it. ( Amazon) Also nobody mentions that NARCAN saves lives. ///
Especially fentanyl because it’s an anesthesia which explains why the others might have fallen asleep in the snow and succumbed to hypothermia. If you’re unconscious you’re not going to be checking social media or hear your phone ring. FM, folks who are sick with the flu or other illnesses can pass out for 48 hours if heavily medicated. Even if you get up to use the restroom you’re not going to look out the window especially when your blinds are closed. The neighbors even said the guy’s a recluse and stays to himself. Obviously the homeowner proved to the police he isn’t at fault. He probably admitted they all took drugs and told them where they bought them. His attorney should have never attempted to defend him with the press because they’ll always misconstrue the facts. Once the families started pointing fingers and the story became front page news for days, of course he moved away. Look at how many folks are pointing fingers. Nancy should know better!
Because they were a bunch of guys that usually hung out together. I mean they thought they were just gonna spend the whole night together come home the next day. And believe me the police will not help you until I It's certain amount of time passes
Then they had better find the drug dealer who sold them laced drugs. Also, most states wont charge fellow drug users if someone willingly took a drug and overdosed because thats how people get left for dead with no call to 911. They usually reserve the charge for dealers.
I could too I only go out there to feed my hubby dog point blank , I hope this all turns out that the friend didn’t do anything but he should say everything he knows .
As a medical professional , I can see exactly how this tragedy evolved . Will be surprised if Fentanyl was NOT the main culprit and if the dose was so extreme, it is feasible that the 1 survivor did so because he was in side the house . Probably a poly dose of mixed drugs which would explain the survivor’s altered mental state for so long . To administer Fentanyl in a medical setting, medical staff must have resuscitation equipment and adequate training at the ready. Pretty sure the investigators are well aware of how this went down.
@@DavewutsupYES! When my 95 YO grandmother left rehab facility she was sent home with Fentanyl patches. The Hospice nurse showed up the next morning and we had to show her the meds my grandmother was on. The RN saw the Fentanyl patches and gasped a little. She then asked if we’d put any on my grandmother. We had not. She asked us if anyone at the rehab facility told us what these patches are. We said no one even mentioned it. It was the same year, 2016, that Prince died so I was aware of Fentanyl for that reason but had no idea how dangerous it could be for others. The RN said ANYTIME someone is administering the patch that you must wear gloves (and doesn’t hurt to wear a mask) b/c if it so much as touches your own skin, it can be very dangerous. Sadly, my grandmother had a heart attack 2 days later and never needed another patch but wouldn’t be surprised if the Fentanyl brought on her heart attack. Strong stuff like Fentanyl and a small framed 5’ - 95 YO might not be a great combination. Police officers have practically OD from inhaling a very small amount of Fentanyl powder. One police officer did just from inhaling the powder that he brushed off his uniform. Dangerous stuff, for sure. I think the toxicology report came out in these three. Sad situation.
@@peterbetts858have you had major surgery? Have you woken up after a procedure screaming and your muscles tense up so tense you're getting muscle cramps (which pale in comparison to the other pain) and you can't relax them? I have and I am thankful that medical fentynal was on hand.
if he had the same substances as the other guys it actually makes sense that he was sleeping. After dosing like that people can totally check out for a couple days. Sweet Nancy hasn't had to deal with much substances in her personal life ... but ive witnessed people being not Dead but dead to the world for two days after binging... they sleep very soundly and dont answer to anything. that's defiantly a thing... unfortunately. I can also say that I have spent two days without leaving my house or noticing anything that was going on outside for 2 days just from depression. So that's also a thing.
Actually I've done hard drugs and alcohol 40 years, I work in Healthcare. You can be kind of out of it 48 hours to bounce back but not completely unconscious for 48 hours.
Yes she is very ignorant to this world. It’s not some “murder mystery” and a “conspiracy” police cover up. She wants it to be and is framing it to be -but it’s obvious to others what happened. And it happens. There are drugs on the street today that you think is one thing and it has other things in it that you don’t know is in it. And it will kill you. WAKE UP NANCY
"Just say no" is how we got here in the first place. We need to stop letting people like you boomers influence drug policy and just leagilze druigs and push for harm reduction
@@kingjoseph5901I have to tell you this, as a resident of Va. Our Governor’s wife has gone on TV and said many people have never heard of fentanyl. She says we need to be more aware of the drug problem in our state. I think she thinks Virginians are idiots! No one here is exempt from the sadness of these casualties. Everyone has a friend or relative who has lost someone! Our Politicians think we are dumb asses.
@@lindap.p.1337 Gee lindap.p.1337, I'm stunned at your criticism of your Governor's wife for televising information regarding fentanyl. Certainly it isn't accurate that every person in the state of Virginia has knowledge of the fentanyl issue although you state otherwise, and after all, what harm could it possibly do? I'd bet my hat that your Governor's wife doesn't think that Virginians are idiots although you state it is so. In addition, it is highly doubtful that every politician is of the mindset that " we are all idiots" as you state. Seems to me that the Governor's wife deserves gratitude and applause for her compassion and concern toward her fellow man in taking the time to alert others of the fentanyl issue. For heaven's sake dear....who in their right mind would feel otherwise?
@@zariballardwhy does she have to be an addict or have ever been one? Anyone who has ever worked with this population knows this can happen. I’ve worked with this population for years and I’ve seen them from the depths of poverty to successful college educated professionals. Just because you’re not homeless or dirty or poor to die from an overdose. I’ve witnessed people from all walks of life and social classes walk into my clinic talking to me just fine and within minutes they are incoherent and don’t know their top from their bottoms. Come to find out they either used in the parking lot just before they walked in the door or they used while in an exam room. And before you say something smart I worked in a primary care office in the Southwestern United States. We do not search people because we are a primary care and community clinic serving all members of the community from pregnant ladies and whole families to 90 somethings. But say what you will.
Yeah, brother is correct. Those 3 men, even if they got locked out accidentally, with their car keys inside, they absolutely would not have just thrown hands in the air, said 'oh well', and sat down and died.
Didn’t hear a thing because he was wearing noise canceling headphones 🤔But, the cops knock on the door he heard through the headphones 😂 "OK" what a bunch of BS
In NJ we have a law called strict liability, that’s when you give someone drugs and they die you are responsible for their deaths. I don’t know if that state has a similar law. If not to late!
My brother was a drug addict. I saw him sleep two to three days when he was coming down from his drugs. He did this many times. He would only get up from the bed go to the restroom and back to bed. No food no water.
The tenant was lucky enough to fall asleep inside...where it was warm, and was passed out for 2 days...apparently that is what happened...it's the most probable answer.
If you read the facts of this case, Nancy Grace who is good at what she does, is really over selling this as a mysterious foul-play story.. what makes the most sense is exactly what the police said happened. They all got together to drink beers and took some illicit drugs.. which was admitted by the gentleman who's friends died. If these men took something that they are not used to, it made them pass out.. unfortunately for the friends, they all passed out on the back patio. And froze to death before they woke up. Put yourself in the guy's shoes who lived, he wakes up after being asleep for more than 48 hours straight, to find police at his feet telling him his friends are all dead outside. This man has had no time to mourn the loss of his friends, but instead is having to deal with accusations that he did something wrong. People seem to forget that investigators and police officers do this for a living, and they would have known immediately had there been foul play.. the reason I know for certain this is possible is because my sister and her boyfriend once passed out on our back patio.. and they were just drinking beers! We found them half Frozen at 9:00 a.m. the next morning. Thank goodness it was an Arizona winter, and not the snowy winter as is in this story.. sometimes the simplest explanation is the right one, even when it's hard to believe. People this day and age just have to have some foul play involved in stories like this because simple explanations aren't great for news media and personalities like Nancy Grace .. it's an absolute disgrace what these families, and the media has done to this poor man..
@@mistrjt9213wtf does that even mean? Not only is that a horrible thing to say but honestly, wtf do you mean? How do you "look like" someone who would nod off anywhere anytime?
The view to driveway where presumably is where their cars were parked is obscured by the garage. It’s a two car attached garage. How many parked cars are we talking about? I think this was an unintentional drug-related tragedy.
@@mshockey73 it's on all news channels and podcasts. It not the final toxicology report, but a preliminary one from the autopsies, given to families today.
My brother was murdered in Texas in 2009. No one will talk to me about it. Not my family, not law enforcement, or the US Marshals. It has left me in a living hell.
There are cold case investigators and I’m hoping you get help from them. You may have to do some research but records are made public. I’m so sorry for your loss💔
@dovieruthAuthor dang that is tough! I have family members that found out their loved one was M-ed by drug dealers 17 years after she went missing. I think technology finally put two and two together. .. but not much was done for those 17 years waiting for tec and sleuths to catch up... she was "strung out" and not.a priority .... Unraveling the mystery must be a totally all consuming experience. So sorry that happened to you. . . there are a lot of night sleuths out there I hope you find someone to unravel it with you. I hope you find justice and a break in the case someday ... hopefully tomorrow
I feel so bad for this brother. I have an idea what he's going through. It's nearly impossible to accept when it's a sibling you've known your whole life. I lost my brother a couple of years ago and I don't think I will ever get over it.
i love Nancy but she finds this "impossible" because drugs haven't been a part of her life. i have been thru this cycle of addiction so i can tell you just how possible this is. as for the families denying they were addicts, i lived in my parents home for 5 YEARS & no one had a clue. if you are a functioning addict, its not hard to hide.
I've never done drugs, but my siblings are all addicts. This tragic case is so easy to comprehend as a drug issue, with hypothermia as COD. I've seen all my siblings sleep for days after coming off a high, or just after a hit depending on drug. This is so easy to understand ....all these reporters need chemical dependency experts to speak.
@@rosiered591 I hope your siblings can find their way out of the darkness that is addiction. I'm sure it's hard for you to have to watch them hurt themselves like that. I hope you have a good friend/someone to talk to when you need it.
@scorpion-lg4ic thank you. I do have support, but it is still overwhelming at times. Learned years ago to set boundaries, and they still cross them at times.
I have to say I live in KC. This was a week when nobody was opening their blinds. We were living below zero, no sun and doing everything to keep heat in the house and bills down. None of my neighbors were ever looking in their back yards, I know that for sure!
How is it NOT BEING INVESTIGATED AS "HOMICIDE"?!? I've NEVER HEARD of 3 PEOPLE/FRIENDS dying at the same house at the same time and it NOT LOOKING LIKE MURDER...WTF?!?!!
The cousin said the guy whose house they were at is a chemist and even used to create his own drugs back in high school. Something went wrong this time trying to make it stronger probably
I'm a recovering addict but I know very little about Fentanyl except that I've seen reports of people who were addicted to run of the mill opiates dropping when they used Fentanyl for the first and only time.
Yeah but the effect will be different on each men. They would have died at different times. Don't be surprised if they died in the house and was moved outside.
I have done exactly that not looked outside for 2 days stayed in my room opened my curtains a little for some light a little bit, didn't look out of my window, didn't do anything....had family over for 2 days...was exhausted.... Didn't even want to go on my phone... Wouldnt have answered the door if someone knocked but definately had my phone on for emergencies. If he doesn't have kids like myself he might not have wanted to have his phone on but this sure is a mystery. Night nurse cold mixture knocks me out like this.
I don’t use drugs or alcohol but I absolutely could go several days without looking outside and have, on occasion, not known when a squad has responded to a neighboring home.
It would be crazy NOT to lawyer-up. Our legal system can not be trusted. There are many innocent people behind bars. To have an attorney represent you and protect you is very, very wise and doesn't indicate guilt.
My drug addicted Sister after a Meth binge came to our Grandmother’s Funeral and afterwards she had locked herself in her car with the engine running with the AC on and all of the windows up…passed out in the back seat….We were banging on those windows and screaming our heads off….Almost broke the window….We could see she was breathing….Took over an hour to get her to wake up….Terrible!
@@Jjj6212 You are missing the point….We were basically right on top of her with the screaming and banging…oh, we were rocking the car too….If she had been in a house, who knows when she would have woke up???
Update: Toxicology came out almost an hr ago. This is what another youtuber posted. The toxicology reports Alcohol, Fentynal (sp?)& Coke. Thats what was reported. The Police contacted the families.
I'll bet the coke was tainted with fentanyl, a lot of people die that way. They don't even know they're doing fentanyl, and these guys don't seem like the kind of guys who would use fentanyl, but a little coke to party is up a bit, sure. Sad, cuz they may have survived had they gone inside.
Did the 5th guy supply the drugs because he has been awol. As far as the parents, wives, and girlfriends why were they so sure these men don't do drugs? Only use drugs from the doctor and pharmacy. Fentanyl has changed the risks of party drugs.
That’s what I have been lead to believe the 5th friend was the drug dealer and he brought the drugs over and delivered them but didn’t partake with the party favors
I've heard his cousins say we don't need to be worried about Lee an I'd Believe the cousin since this is the same cousin that 2 of these guys were supposed to be working with him that Monday an he was in contact with his cousin on Sunday at some point. I kinda believe this cousin
I said this from day one! A bunch of friend’s partying decide to do some coke! The coke had fentanyl in it, that they didn’t know. The one guy went to bed because he is feeling the effects of the drugs and passes out for two days! The other three go outside to maybe have a smoke or the drug is making them fell hot and one of them drops, the other two try to help him and the second one goes down, the lone survivor is trying to help his friends and also starts feeling bad, he goes for help and collapses on the back deck. The temperature reduces their body temps below 80 and the heart can’t beat anymore. It’s a shame. I’m not saying they were bad guys, just parting like so many do. But today you can’t think you’re just doing a couple of line of coke. fentanyl is a pure killer. May they rest in peace.
Thank you! Same story with me! When I was with my homeboys "doing drugs" you think I wanted my man at home to know?! Absolutely not! Thank God this was years ago 😭😭
If you read the facts of this case, Nancy Grace who is good at what she does, is really over selling this as a mysterious foul-play story.. what makes the most sense is exactly what the police said happened. They all got together to drink beers and took some illicit drugs.. which was admitted by the gentleman who's friends died. If these men took something that they are not used to, it made them pass out.. unfortunately for the friends, they all passed out on the back patio. And froze to death before they woke up. Put yourself in the guy's shoes who lived, he wakes up after being asleep for more than 48 hours straight, to find police at his feet telling him his friends are all dead outside. This man has had no time to mourn the loss of his friends, but instead is having to deal with accusations that he did something wrong. People seem to forget that investigators and police officers do this for a living, and they would have known immediately had there been foul play.. the reason I know for certain this is possible is because my sister and her boyfriend once passed out on our back patio.. and they were just drinking beers! We found them half Frozen at 9:00 a.m. the next morning. Thank goodness it was an Arizona winter, and not the snowy winter as is in this story.. sometimes the simplest explanation is the right one, even when it's hard to believe. People this day and age just have to have some foul play involved in stories like this because simple explanations aren't great for news media and personalities like Nancy Grace .. it's an absolute disgrace what these families, and the media has done to this poor man..
If you read the facts of this case, Nancy Grace who is good at what she does, is really over selling this as a mysterious foul-play story.. what makes the most sense is exactly what the police said happened. They all got together to drink beers and took some illicit drugs.. which was admitted by the gentleman who's friends died. If these men took something that they are not used to, it made them pass out.. unfortunately for the friends, they all passed out on the back patio. And froze to death before they woke up. Put yourself in the guy's shoes who lived, he wakes up after being asleep for more than 48 hours straight, to find police at his feet telling him his friends are all dead outside. This man has had no time to mourn the loss of his friends, but instead is having to deal with accusations that he did something wrong. People seem to forget that investigators and police officers do this for a living, and they would have known immediately had there been foul play.. the reason I know for certain this is possible is because my sister and her boyfriend once passed out on our back patio.. and they were just drinking beers! We found them half Frozen at 9:00 a.m. the next morning. Thank goodness it was an Arizona winter, and not the snowy winter as is in this story.. sometimes the simplest explanation is the right one, even when it's hard to believe. People this day and age just have to have some foul play involved in stories like this because simple explanations aren't great for news media and personalities like Nancy Grace .. it's an absolute disgrace what these families, and the media has done to this poor man..
Listen to Nancy Grace's latest updates on this case: Early toxicology results for three friends found dead outside a Chiefs watch party, reportedly show cocaine and fentanyl in their systems: apple.co/494y6tY
I think the owner was just "lucky" and slept off the drugs that his friends overdosed on - probably was in a drug stupor for 2 days if it was strong enough to kill the other three. Makes total sense to me.
I agree especially since they were his friends and watching the game together. Question is who provided the drugs.
100% agree.
I think all 4 took the same stuff and passed out cold. The only difference was one was inside.
@@heatherriley7274 Yep, I was going to make a similar comment
I can sleep for 2 days and not touch my phone , I often haven't left my house for days, or even opened my blinds , some people, if they are off work, relax in their home and don't leave .
Rehab for the drugs
I'm a person in recovery. After benders, I'd sleep up to 3 days. I currently work with those who use drugs. Unfortunately, this is our reality everywhere with Fentanyl in literally all drugs. Either Willis didn't partake, or he had a tolerance for Fentanyl the others didn't. Also, I worked from home for 5 years & I wouldn't leave my house very often & I definitely didn't check my yard. I truly believe this was, in fact, an accidental overdose. People OD together every day. Test your supply with Fentanyl test strips. Don't everyone use at the same time. As for the guy going to rehab, Im sure this situation was a nightmare of a wake-up call. Everything in this story happens in real life, it just usually happens to people who society views as disposable; therefore, you don't hear about it.
that's what's so unbelievable to me is thousands of drug users are dying and why is this case so remarkable to everyone
I do not do drugs but sometimes I do not go outside for days. I just like to be in my home when I’m not working. I actually currently have not been outside in over 24 hours. So that is not super unusual to me. I’m not saying there was no foul play. It’s too early for that. But I just think not going outside for 2 days doesn’t seem strange to me. Especially the back yard. Ugh. Still so tragic and sorry for the lives lost and to the families 🙌🏽
Best comment on this case .
@@mahalalettvin7675 IMO it is because it was first reported as “ three Chiefs fans freeze to death “The word Chiefs got everyone going because of Taylor Swift and her romance . Sounds dumb I know , but we Americans are not the brightest bunch .,
@@mahalalettvin7675 Agree, I think it was cuz family keep saying that they didn’t do drugs that they were murdered or poisoned. Unfortunately they didn’t know them that well. As for me I know I cannot say me son doesn’t do drugs because you never know what their into without you knowing.
If my fiance didn't come home after a watch party, I'd sure as shit be looking for him that night! Wtf!
Right!
Your family won’t know you use drugs if you’re never high around them and live a functioning life
Exactly
Exactly. I know a LOT of people who do drugs (over the years not currently ha) whose spouses have no idea
You may think that but there's people who know and won't say anything because 9 times out of 10, someone knows what you're doing but you're functioning etc so they'll think it's not that bad or he wouldn't be working and so on!
Social user's don't do what full blown addicts are willing to do! Something could have happened and dude freaked out and lied trying to cover up the death's! Well he's not safe from the law arresting him in rehab!
There are people whose family members have no idea they occasionally do drugs. Even girlfriends and boyfriends, spouses, best friends, etc.
Yep, l found my roommate dead in the backyard. I called 911. I was able to do chest compressions. He was revived. I had no idea he used drugs!
That girlfriend knew. It’s not normal to immediately break down a door before walking around the back to peer in or test the back doorknob unless you suspect an overdose.
@@constancereed-ff8su Omg that’s amazing! You are literally a life saver! Bravo! 💕
NOPE . NOT DEAD , unconscious .@@constancereed-ff8su
I do not believe they used drugs. The drank beer 🍺. But that Sunday night they needed to get home. These are men with jobs and families. J drugged them I’m sure of it. He mixed up something to have friends be high with him and he mixed up way too much, 30 times too much ! All three men died at the exact same time. I can see three men drinking a beer and then they were gone, then he got help to pull them outside. And he took their phones wallets and keys and set their 2 day figuring out what he would do, I think he had the dog moved too. No way they froze to death, they were deceased before being moved outside. This is a mess! I was in 9 degrees that same weekend. I spent 1 hour outside in 9 degree s making a video. I’m fine ! And we don’t get cold weather much where I live but these 3 men grew up in that climate. They know what to do In cold weather. They were not alive when they were put outside. The odds of all three dying at the same time is extremely odd. The odds of J not knowing they were deceased outside in the yard are zero.
This case makes me realize how little people understand the dangers of fentanyl and other drugs coming into this country. These kind of cases need to go viral everyday. 33 suffered mass overdose in Oregon. West Point cadets mass overdose last year on spring break.
So stop harassing people for a joint and keep your eye on the ball.
Amen!
The toxicology report said cocaine not Fentanyl
@@rachelsill79 it said cocaine and “other” illegal drugs
Bethany, my precious beautiful son. he was in the military,it didnt happen on the battle field, but he is still my hero. he was always helping others. i knew i was in this battle, praying all the time doing what i could, law enforcement seemed to work against me. he was working out of town. charlotte mecklenburg pd did nothing. they didnt even open his cell phone. and even put me in my place for asking too many questions. i was going to get a lawyer but too devistated. but i have started to fight again. fasting and prayer is best fight against fentanyl and guard our borders. and if anyone has a loved one struggling and nothing seems to work, Love and Listen. I felt as though the Lord told me to Love and Listen. I was distracted, I was helping a friend when it happened.
It's hard for these families to accept but for someone who has had two close people lost to drugs, this is very much the reality.
people who are coming down off drugs, a person would sleep for days and never look outside. Such a shame!
Not true. I speak from 40 years experience as my daily life.
I agree, if you are coming down you dont want to go outside.
I've slept almost 48 hours before only getting up to use the restroom, without anything in my system. If he done the same stuff the other three did, it's not hard to imagine him doing the same, and not dying because he was inside.
Same! I do not do drugs. But I actually can just stay in bed and not leave my house for 2 or more days. So that part does not seem unusual to me. I do know people who have been under an influence and they’ve just laid there for days. It’s definitely a strange sad story and so sorry for the victims and families. I couldn’t imagine.
Exactly 💯
Not buying the no pee in 2 days. They were probably drinking on drugs. You have to be dust not to pee in 2 days
He was not responding to calls or people pounding on the door.
@@truffles2721That doesn’t mean he wasn’t hearing them-just ignoring them. My thought-why didn’t any family member call police for a welfare check?
This screams fentanyl overdose!
It is…
It COMPLETELY screams fentanyl. One guy just went inside for whatever, and nodded out. The other three nodded out outside and froze. My guess it that the guy in the most likely came very close to dying himself. So many people are taking fentanyl and don't even know it. One guy I use to know, he bought some cocaine to stay up and work, and his girlfriend found him dead from fentanyl.
Yep 👍💔💔💔🙏
Dude was a chemist,he made all types of drugs for friends.
@@adrianhenderson4627 Imagine the trouble he’s going to be in for distribution if he was the one who gave them the drugs that killed them…not to mention the guilt he has to live with.
As a wife of a man who went out of ten with friends a lot. The thought of him not doing drugs is there. But to deny he did is crazy
As a recovering alcoholic you can absolutely go on a binge and not know anything for days. Prayers for the family and friends🙏
If you read the facts of this case, Nancy Grace who is good at what she does, is really over selling this as a mysterious foul-play story.. what makes the most sense is exactly what the police said happened. They all got together to drink beers and took some illicit drugs.. which was admitted by the gentleman who's friends died. If these men took something that they are not used to, it made them pass out.. unfortunately for the friends, they all passed out on the back patio. And froze to death before they woke up. Put yourself in the guy's shoes who lived, he wakes up after being asleep for more than 48 hours straight, to find police at his feet telling him his friends are all dead outside. This man has had no time to mourn the loss of his friends, but instead is having to deal with accusations that he did something wrong. People seem to forget that investigators and police officers do this for a living, and they would have known immediately had there been foul play.. the reason I know for certain this is possible is because my sister and her boyfriend once passed out on our back patio.. and they were just drinking beers! We found them half Frozen at 9:00 a.m. the next morning. Thank goodness it was an Arizona winter, and not the snowy winter as is in this story.. sometimes the simplest explanation is the right one, even when it's hard to believe. People this day and age just have to have some foul play involved in stories like this because simple explanations aren't great for news media and personalities like Nancy Grace .. it's an absolute disgrace what these families, and the media has done to this poor man..
Nancy let others talk, please!
@@kathygillman5450 100% agree…Unless you are an alcoholic, recovering alcoholic or a family member or friend of an alcoholic this probably will never make sense. Unfortunately this was probably a tragic accident.
I agree. Hate to admit it but I've been on benders and i can be in bed for days. Any type of light like going outside is terrible.
The girlfriend saying her boyfriend was not a drug addict. He doesn't have to be an addict in order to imbibe (aggressively) on occasion. Sorry, but that's the truth.
Family almost always states that their loved one does not do drigs, even casually. It’s not called a disease of denial for nothing. The family is affected as well.
Agreed.
If you read the facts of this case, Nancy Grace who is good at what she does, is really over selling this as a mysterious foul-play story.. what makes the most sense is exactly what the police said happened. They all got together to drink beers and took some illicit drugs.. which was admitted by the gentleman who's friends died. If these men took something that they are not used to, it made them pass out.. unfortunately for the friends, they all passed out on the back patio. And froze to death before they woke up. Put yourself in the guy's shoes who lived, he wakes up after being asleep for more than 48 hours straight, to find police at his feet telling him his friends are all dead outside. This man has had no time to mourn the loss of his friends, but instead is having to deal with accusations that he did something wrong. People seem to forget that investigators and police officers do this for a living, and they would have known immediately had there been foul play.. the reason I know for certain this is possible is because my sister and her boyfriend once passed out on our back patio.. and they were just drinking beers! We found them half Frozen at 9:00 a.m. the next morning. Thank goodness it was an Arizona winter, and not the snowy winter as is in this story.. sometimes the simplest explanation is the right one, even when it's hard to believe. People this day and age just have to have some foul play involved in stories like this because simple explanations aren't great for news media and personalities like Nancy Grace .. it's an absolute disgrace what these families, and the media has done to this poor man..
Exactly 💯
Also why did she not walk around the house to the back door/porch before breaking in? That’s more normal behavior when you just haven’t heard from someone and their cars are out front. Most people would walk around to try and peek in and test the back door, look for a key under a mat, etc before breaking in to a home. UNLESS you see the cars and panic and suspect overdose because you know there is a drug history.
I can go days without looking out the window or answer my phone and the only drugs I take are prescribed for severe pain.
The coke must have been laced with fentynl. Doesn't mean that the guy in rehab is responsible unless he shoved it up their noses. Everyone is responsible for their own actions.
Heard a detective on the case said “ it will make more sense when we are ready to announce our findings” so the police clearly know what happened. Dude checks in to rehab? Sounds like ODs to me.
Yup, fentanyl overdose
Or…CYA, COVER YOUR ASS. He lawyered up, his attorney recommended he show he’s accepted his responsibility in this tragedy, on his property, with drugs he supplied? (possibly)
Yep, sounds like that to me…..
Me too! Accidental..😢
Accidental OD for sure.
This reminds me of Comedian Kate Quigley who survived a drug overdose that killed three friends, saying she woke up “to find people dead” in her house.
I remember when that happened….Terrible!
Yes and so Nancy assumes this guy killed them? So they were drinking - decided to do more and had either too much or bad drugs. Still not this guy murdering them - jeeze
The owner was a chemist and made drugs for people in the neighborhood as per one of the neighbors.
Wow 😮, a neighbor stated that? Where can I find that information ℹ️?
I haven't been in my back yard in over a month, I pray for all these people and there families 🙏
What about the cars parked out front though
How do you sleep for 2 days? You're not "asleep" -- you are blacked out. Where are all the experts who know about addiction and blacking out?
That's not black out. I'm a licensed addiction counselor. Blackouts are when people lose track of time. It doesn't mean passing out. People wake up to people they don't know..don't remember how they got home..
People can sleep for 2 days.
Junkies can sleep for 2 days easily
you're quibbling with words. Asleep? black out? He was out in bed unaware of what was going on. Stop arguing.
Sorry wrong... people with Fibromyalgia can sleep for 2 days. In this case I suspect he was passed out from drugs.
2 days sleeping without looking out a window? Lady, welcome to every winter weekend
Not true, I live in Buffalo. We're used to winter and this winter is nice, 30, 40, 50 degrees.
But the cars
Why people are still doing drugs is beyond me. It’s so incredibly dangerous now.
My husband is a truck driver and has slept for two days straight without getting up for anything.
as a night shift nurse, i’ve definitely stayed in a bed for days after a long stretch of shifts.
That's not good
I'm guilty of 2 days in bed,food and bathroom breaks..no looking out window or door and no calls..exhausted from working 5 reg overnight shifts..😅shut add drugs or alcohol I could easily go 3/ 4 days as such.😢
I think all of them did drugs, 3 of them went out the back porch to smoke, passed out and died of hypothermia. Jordan also did drugs and slept through
fenta is a killer.
Cocaine, fentanyl and marijuana are what I heard they all did.
THEY WENT OUT CUZ THEY GOT HOT ON DRUGS
@@ezralinehubbard3048 you might be right as well
All three died at exactly the same time? ⁉️The last one standing didn’t see the other 2 unconscious and think “maybe I should get help from a neighbor because were locked out” 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
The "friend" lawyering up and entering rehab....telltale signs of a guilty person. God bless these families. I think they're going to be shocked at the toxicology and COD!!
People have 3 lives, their public life, their private life, and their secret life. Obviously these men had secret lives, also friends, family, and partners think they would never do these things. That's where the secret life comes in. No one knows everything.🤔
Right? Sorry, but they're lying to themselves to say "he would never." I give it a month & other people who know these men will start blasting all the red flags they saw about drug use.
Don't forget the junkie drug life! Serious
A family member has come out and said, all 3 men had cocaine, fentanyl and marijuana in their systems.
That would explain a lot. The owner became incapacitated and slept it off. The others were outside became incapacitated and froze to death. So very sad. I understand the home owner checked into rehab.😮😮
Might be laced weed. We see that a lot out here in this part of NC. Lots of overdoses due to fentanyl in marijuana
The owner has been giving inconsistent stories because he knew the drugs would be found in toxicology, and he participated too. But, it's strange there is hardly any mention of the time frame of the 5th person being there. If they were drinking that much and also using drug, they didn't suddenly wait until they left and went outside to use drugs. They would have been partying all night, and the two who survived know what happened.
@@jen.2102 Dam I hate to hear that I am diagnosed canaboid use disorder and I smoke the herb
@@pureprairienot to mention the reason he didn’t answer the phone was because I believe he was busy cleaning up the crime scene and the cops allowed him to pack up and move yes he definitely knew what had happened he was the master mind so to speak but apparently really not that bright thinking he would just keep changing his story and nobody would notice he is the only one that lived like the math is mathing he did it to them
If love could cure addiction there would be no addicts. Tough love does not work.
addictions
Addicts are created in their first 18 months of life during which they suffered trauma.but have no recall. Dr Gabor Mate's work in that field is worth a look.
Amen. 💗
May God be with all those struggling with addictions, keep them SAFE! ❤️
May God bring them to treatment that WORKS,
& proper help, & healing, &
comfort, strength, & support,
& Light, Hope, & Peace. 💗
And, may God be with those who Love & care for peole with addictions. ❤️
May God bring us patience, compassion, & care,
knowledge, insight, & Divine Guidance
in how we deal with our beloveds struggling with addictions.❤️
May God bring us strength, & support, comfort, & healing,
& Light, & Hope, & Peace.❤️
May God end addictions for us & those whom we Love.💗
It’s not tough love. It’s called boundaries and setting limits.
The LOVE of Jesus SAVED ME! He delivered me from drug addiction and an eating disorder..He restored my marriage and gave me a reason to live...yes HIS love SAVED ME!
I lost my Dad at 8 years old due to drug overdose. It's truly heartbreaking for the families. It's a lifelong ache.
Why is it so hard to believe a person doesn't look out the window. In the last 3 months I went out in the back yard once. I leave my curtains closed and I never look out. I don't think it is so far fetched to think a person/people don't look out their windows.
I get that, but if cars were parked in my driveway and nobody was in my house, I'd probably look outside.
I’ve slept for 3 to 4 days in the past when I was extremely depressed. Only getting up to use the bathroom. I’ve never used drugs in my life. It could be worse if I did. Those are strange circumstances but we need a toxicology report first.
Someone who is drugged could sleep like that
Shit…I’m an RN and after 3-12’s in a row, I can sleep like that!!
I used to take Xanax and clonopine..I would be in bed for days..not aware of ANYTHING. So glad I don't leave like that anymore
Absolutely! I've seen it happen before.
All of these interviews are for making money. Even thought this is very tragic and sad case, nobody on these channels has Mentioned that if people are using, there are Tests -Strips that test if a "thing" has Fent in it. ( Amazon) Also nobody mentions that NARCAN saves lives. ///
Especially fentanyl because it’s an anesthesia which explains why the others might have fallen asleep in the snow and succumbed to hypothermia. If you’re unconscious you’re not going to be checking social media or hear your phone ring.
FM, folks who are sick with the flu or other illnesses can pass out for 48 hours if heavily medicated. Even if you get up to use the restroom you’re not going to look out the window especially when your blinds are closed. The neighbors even said the guy’s a recluse and stays to himself.
Obviously the homeowner proved to the police he isn’t at fault. He probably admitted they all took drugs and told them where they bought them. His attorney should have never attempted to defend him with the press because they’ll always misconstrue the facts. Once the families started pointing fingers and the story became front page news for days, of course he moved away. Look at how many folks are pointing fingers. Nancy should know better!
They all passed out from drugs and one was inside. Is that too simple of an explanation?
Why did they wait so long to look for them. Wow I would have been over there that night.
Because they were a bunch of guys that usually hung out together. I mean they thought they were just gonna spend the whole night together come home the next day. And believe me the police will not help you until I It's certain amount of time passes
I agree! If my finance didn't come home or answer calls I'd most likely head over and check the situation. They're grown men not teenagers.
It has been my understanding that a person who gives another person drugs can be guilty of a crime of contributing to their their death.
Not if they knew & willingly partook
YES!!!!!
Then they had better find the drug dealer who sold them laced drugs.
Also, most states wont charge fellow drug users if someone willingly took a drug and overdosed because thats how people get left for dead with no call to 911. They usually reserve the charge for dealers.
Usually the DEALER only. In my state, yes....that charge is drug induced homicide, & you're doing at LEAST a decade at 85%.
How do you know which one brought the drugs? Maybe the drugs belonged to one of the men that died
I have curtains in all my windows. If I didn't have dogs I could go days without seeing my backyard.
I could too I only go out there to feed my hubby dog point blank , I hope this all turns out that the friend didn’t do anything but he should say everything he knows .
Probably is the home own has 2 dogs
@@leslierosa7755he would unless he has something to hide
Me too, especially if im on a bender.
Same.
TYVM Nancy for your passionate coverage. This is such a tragedy for the families, especially the kids who are now without a father
Nobody is talking about the fact that the guys phones and wallets were in the kitchen?
As a medical professional , I can see exactly how this tragedy evolved . Will be surprised if Fentanyl was NOT the main culprit and if the dose was so extreme, it is feasible that the 1 survivor did so because he was in side the house . Probably a poly dose of mixed drugs which would explain the survivor’s altered mental state for so long . To administer Fentanyl in a medical setting, medical staff must have resuscitation equipment and adequate training at the ready. Pretty sure the investigators are well aware of how this went down.
Thank you.
why is fenty brought out from under lock n key ,we allready have enuff dope to handle most any thing .
I've heard of cases where people died just by touching it .😳
@@DavewutsupYES! When my 95 YO grandmother left rehab facility she was sent home with Fentanyl patches. The Hospice nurse showed up the next morning and we had to show her the meds my grandmother was on. The RN saw the Fentanyl patches and gasped a little. She then asked if we’d put any on my grandmother. We had not. She asked us if anyone at the rehab facility told us what these patches are. We said no one even mentioned it. It was the same year, 2016, that Prince died so I was aware of Fentanyl for that reason but had no idea how dangerous it could be for others. The RN said ANYTIME someone is administering the patch that you must wear gloves (and doesn’t hurt to wear a mask) b/c if it so much as touches your own skin, it can be very dangerous. Sadly, my grandmother had a heart attack 2 days later and never needed another patch but wouldn’t be surprised if the Fentanyl brought on her heart attack. Strong stuff like Fentanyl and a small framed 5’ - 95 YO might not be a great combination. Police officers have practically OD from inhaling a very small amount of Fentanyl powder. One police officer did just from inhaling the powder that he brushed off his uniform. Dangerous stuff, for sure. I think the toxicology report came out in these three. Sad situation.
@@peterbetts858have you had major surgery? Have you woken up after a procedure screaming and your muscles tense up so tense you're getting muscle cramps (which pale in comparison to the other pain) and you can't relax them? I have and I am thankful that medical fentynal was on hand.
if he had the same substances as the other guys it actually makes sense that he was sleeping. After dosing like that people can totally check out for a couple days. Sweet Nancy hasn't had to deal with much substances in her personal life ... but ive witnessed people being not Dead but dead to the world for two days after binging... they sleep very soundly and dont answer to anything. that's defiantly a thing... unfortunately. I can also say that I have spent two days without leaving my house or noticing anything that was going on outside for 2 days just from depression. So that's also a thing.
Actually I've done hard drugs and alcohol 40 years, I work in Healthcare. You can be kind of out of it 48 hours to bounce back but not completely unconscious for 48 hours.
@@Jjj6212 bless you, Jennifer…I understand. Girl be careful
Yes, I agree. I have no problem isolating for long periods of time.
Yes she is very ignorant to this world. It’s not some “murder mystery” and a “conspiracy” police cover up. She wants it to be and is framing it to be -but it’s obvious to others what happened. And it happens.
There are drugs on the street today that you think is one thing and it has other things in it that you don’t know is in it. And it will kill you. WAKE UP NANCY
They were doing drugs.
It was freezing cold outside, they lost it due to their drug activies,
and then DIED!
Why do you think they call it DOPE!
SIMPLY PUT !!!
So you were at the party?
They were drinking alcohol, doing drugs, they got hot,went outside and succumbed toTHE cold temps.
@NancyGrace, you always make excellent points! Thank you!
Thank you for covering this story. Please keep us updated.
Moral of Story: JUST SAY NO TO ALCOHOL AND OTHER DRUGS
👍
"Just say no" is how we got here in the first place. We need to stop letting people like you boomers influence drug policy and just leagilze druigs and push for harm reduction
True
Gotta pick one or the other 😂
Just because they can’t handle it doesn’t mean I can’t lol
Lady, it’s called drugs
For real. How are so many people still unaware of the opioid epidemic??
@@kingjoseph5901I have to tell you this, as a resident of Va. Our Governor’s wife has gone on TV and said many people have never heard of fentanyl. She says we need to be more aware of the drug problem in our state. I think she thinks Virginians are idiots! No one here is exempt from the sadness of these casualties. Everyone has a friend or relative who has lost someone! Our Politicians think we are dumb asses.
seriously
Cocaine, fentanyl and marijuana all combined!
@@lindap.p.1337 Gee lindap.p.1337, I'm stunned at your criticism of your Governor's wife for televising information regarding fentanyl. Certainly it isn't accurate that every person in the state of Virginia has knowledge of the fentanyl issue although you state otherwise, and after all, what harm could it possibly do? I'd bet my hat that your Governor's wife doesn't think that Virginians are idiots although you state it is so. In addition, it is highly doubtful that every politician is of the mindset that " we are all idiots" as you state. Seems to me that the Governor's wife deserves gratitude and applause for her compassion and concern toward her fellow man in taking the time to alert others of the fentanyl issue. For heaven's sake dear....who in their right mind would feel otherwise?
The moral of the story here is don't do drugs ...And especially when its cold.
Why is his attorney talking to the press, providing specific details like that?!?!😵💫
It could have been a combination of alchol and drugs that killed them. Such a tragedy.
I’ve gone days at a time without looking outside, and I never go out when it’s cold outside.
Back in my party days, I stayed up for 2 1/2 days at a festival. Mind you no illicit drugs taken. Got home and slept for 2 entire days. It happens
In winter I barely look at my front or backyard for days until trash day
Homeless people die like this every year, and no one blinks an eye...
!!!!!!
Your comparing healthy strong men to the homeless that are not healthy? That's a reach! Either way it's all very sad.
Well, dont tell us.... you better get out there and help out.
To me everything about this story makes sense for a junkies. They all were lowkey junkies and everything makes perfect sense to me
Are you a "junkie"?
@@zariballard wow
Correct
@@zariballard I’m not. You have those crazy junkie eyes though 🥹
@@zariballardwhy does she have to be an addict or have ever been one? Anyone who has ever worked with this population knows this can happen. I’ve worked with this population for years and I’ve seen them from the depths of poverty to successful college educated professionals. Just because you’re not homeless or dirty or poor to die from an overdose. I’ve witnessed people from all walks of life and social classes walk into my clinic talking to me just fine and within minutes they are incoherent and don’t know their top from their bottoms. Come to find out they either used in the parking lot just before they walked in the door or they used while in an exam room. And before you say something smart I worked in a primary care office in the Southwestern United States. We do not search people because we are a primary care and community clinic serving all members of the community from pregnant ladies and whole families to 90 somethings. But say what you will.
Yeah, brother is correct. Those 3 men, even if they got locked out accidentally, with their car keys inside, they absolutely would not have just thrown hands in the air, said 'oh well', and sat down and died.
Thanks Nancy for the update. This is so sad.
Everyone should lawyer up immediately before being interrogated.
Thank you !!!! 🎯
Exactly!! Never talk unless you have a lawyer
Words of wisdom.
My cousin is a lawyer and she has said this too
Didn’t hear a thing because he was wearing noise canceling headphones 🤔But, the cops knock on the door he heard through the headphones 😂 "OK" what a bunch of BS
Cops pound on the door in a way that nobody else does. It wasn't the noise it was the vibration
Wasn’t the girlfriend also in the house screaming her head off?
@darcymoon2109 yes she was and also pounding on the door
Yeah that’s crazy
Creating "alibis", so he can use to prove he is innocent and NOT responsible for any negligence.
In NJ we have a law called strict liability, that’s when you give someone drugs and they die you are responsible for their deaths. I don’t know if that state has a similar law. If not to late!
Thanks, Nancy. Great coverage, as always. I predict this case will be tough to solve due to the PD botching the investigation from the word go.
My brother was a drug addict. I saw him sleep two to three days when he was coming down from his drugs. He did this many times. He would only get up from the bed go to the restroom and back to bed. No food no water.
But not out 48 hours unconscious!
The tenant was lucky enough to fall asleep inside...where it was warm, and was passed out for 2 days...apparently that is what happened...it's the most probable answer.
I couldn’t wait for Nancy to speak on this
Lawyering up and rehab getting his defense ready
People on drugs can sleep for days they stay up for days.
When this first came out, his lawyer said he left the house multiple times. So in his case, it's a lie
They all didn't die at the same second. Think they Nodded out.
They look like the type to easily nod off anywhere anytime.
@@mistrjt9213No, they look strong and healthy... even if they didn't, what a horrible thing to say.
They was all together on the back porch. We all realize it wasn’t the same second.
If you read the facts of this case, Nancy Grace who is good at what she does, is really over selling this as a mysterious foul-play story.. what makes the most sense is exactly what the police said happened. They all got together to drink beers and took some illicit drugs.. which was admitted by the gentleman who's friends died. If these men took something that they are not used to, it made them pass out.. unfortunately for the friends, they all passed out on the back patio. And froze to death before they woke up. Put yourself in the guy's shoes who lived, he wakes up after being asleep for more than 48 hours straight, to find police at his feet telling him his friends are all dead outside. This man has had no time to mourn the loss of his friends, but instead is having to deal with accusations that he did something wrong. People seem to forget that investigators and police officers do this for a living, and they would have known immediately had there been foul play.. the reason I know for certain this is possible is because my sister and her boyfriend once passed out on our back patio.. and they were just drinking beers! We found them half Frozen at 9:00 a.m. the next morning. Thank goodness it was an Arizona winter, and not the snowy winter as is in this story.. sometimes the simplest explanation is the right one, even when it's hard to believe. People this day and age just have to have some foul play involved in stories like this because simple explanations aren't great for news media and personalities like Nancy Grace .. it's an absolute disgrace what these families, and the media has done to this poor man..
@@mistrjt9213wtf does that even mean? Not only is that a horrible thing to say but honestly, wtf do you mean? How do you "look like" someone who would nod off anywhere anytime?
I haven’t looked in my backyard since November.
The view to driveway where presumably is where their cars were parked is obscured by the garage.
It’s a two car attached garage. How many parked cars are we talking about? I think this was an unintentional drug-related tragedy.
Toxicology reports in. 3 had cocaine, THC, fentanyl. The fentanyl was level 30, 3 times fatal dose.
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@chrisp3011 Remains to be determined. Home owner is in rehab. Investigation hopefully give answers.
Where did you hear the toxicology reports are in??
WOW!!
@@mshockey73 it's on all news channels and podcasts. It not the final toxicology report, but a preliminary one from the autopsies, given to families today.
My brother was murdered in Texas in 2009. No one will talk to me about it. Not my family, not law enforcement, or the US Marshals. It has left me in a living hell.
There are cold case investigators and I’m hoping you get help from them. You may have to do some research but records are made public. I’m so sorry for your loss💔
@@NancyDrew1 Unfortunately, I am not getting anywhere with cold case investigators.
@dovieruthAuthor dang that is tough! I have family members that found out their loved one was M-ed by drug dealers 17 years after she went missing. I think technology finally put two and two together. .. but not much was done for those 17 years waiting for tec and sleuths to catch up... she was "strung out" and not.a priority .... Unraveling the mystery must be a totally all consuming experience. So sorry that happened to you. . . there are a lot of night sleuths out there I hope you find someone to unravel it with you. I hope you find justice and a break in the case someday ... hopefully tomorrow
@@ilenhalogram Thanks for your support.
That must be horrible that they won't let you understand what happened, so you can have that closure you deserve and need. Bless you.
Now a days DO NOT TRUST "FRIENDS"
I feel so bad for this brother. I have an idea what he's going through. It's nearly impossible to accept when it's a sibling you've known your whole life. I lost my brother a couple of years ago and I don't think I will ever get over it.
Thank you Mrs Grace for all the hard work you do to cover all the cases that you do. God Bless you and your Family. 🌹🙏
i love Nancy but she finds this "impossible" because drugs haven't been a part of her life. i have been thru this cycle of addiction so i can tell you just how possible this is. as for the families denying they were addicts, i lived in my parents home for 5 YEARS & no one had a clue. if you are a functioning addict, its not hard to hide.
I've never done drugs, but my siblings are all addicts. This tragic case is so easy to comprehend as a drug issue, with hypothermia as COD. I've seen all my siblings sleep for days after coming off a high, or just after a hit depending on drug.
This is so easy to understand ....all these reporters need chemical dependency experts to speak.
@@rosiered591 I hope your siblings can find their way out of the darkness that is addiction. I'm sure it's hard for you to have to watch them hurt themselves like that. I hope you have a good friend/someone to talk to when you need it.
Exactly. She sounds so fucking stupid lol
@scorpion-lg4ic thank you. I do have support, but it is still overwhelming at times. Learned years ago to set boundaries, and they still cross them at times.
So very true
I have to say I live in KC. This was a week when nobody was opening their blinds. We were living below zero, no sun and doing everything to keep heat in the house and bills down. None of my neighbors were ever looking in their back yards, I know that for sure!
How is it NOT BEING INVESTIGATED AS "HOMICIDE"?!?
I've NEVER HEARD of 3 PEOPLE/FRIENDS dying at the same house at the same time and it NOT LOOKING LIKE MURDER...WTF?!?!!
The cousin said the guy whose house they were at is a chemist and even used to create his own drugs back in high school. Something went wrong this time trying to make it stronger probably
Hearsay
Nancy you are wrong! Fentanyl Fentanyl Fentanyl
I'm a recovering addict but I know very little about Fentanyl except that I've seen reports of people who were addicted to run of the mill opiates dropping when they used Fentanyl for the first and only time.
Yeah but the effect will be different on each men. They would have died at different times. Don't be surprised if they died in the house and was moved outside.
I have done exactly that not looked outside for 2 days stayed in my room opened my curtains a little for some light a little bit, didn't look out of my window, didn't do anything....had family over for 2 days...was exhausted.... Didn't even want to go on my phone... Wouldnt have answered the door if someone knocked but definately had my phone on for emergencies. If he doesn't have kids like myself he might not have wanted to have his phone on but this sure is a mystery. Night nurse cold mixture knocks me out like this.
I believe they need to be looking at a toxic mix of chemicals.
WRONG he doesn’t have to consent. They can get a warrant. Probable cause is 3peoole died at your house and you slept for 2days.
That sounds like a method binge comedown…. Recovering addict here so I’ve done it…. My guess is meth/fentanyl
See newest comments. Tox came in
Nancy I love how much you love your twins the way you speak about them ❤ a mothers love is so strong ❤❤
I don’t use drugs or alcohol but I absolutely could go several days without looking outside and have, on occasion, not known when a squad has responded to a neighboring home.
Nancy, great show, very informative and not insensitive to any of the victims .
It would be crazy NOT to lawyer-up. Our legal system can not be trusted. There are many innocent people behind bars. To have an attorney represent you and protect you is very, very wise and doesn't indicate guilt.
Paranoia
My drug addicted Sister after a Meth binge came to our Grandmother’s Funeral and afterwards she had locked herself in her car with the engine running with the AC on and all of the windows up…passed out in the back seat….We were banging on those windows and screaming our heads off….Almost broke the window….We could see she was breathing….Took over an hour to get her to wake up….Terrible!
That's an hour, not 48 hours
@@Jjj6212 You are missing the point….We were basically right on top of her with the screaming and banging…oh, we were rocking the car too….If she had been in a house, who knows when she would have woke up???
😢😮Very disturbing. Prayers for all involved. A lot of things just don't make sense. Answers needed for sure and I 🙏 pray the TRUTH COMES OUT.
The same way the 3 died. He was fortunate to pass out for 2 days in the heat
Common sense.
Update: Toxicology came out almost an hr ago. This is what another youtuber posted. The toxicology reports Alcohol, Fentynal (sp?)& Coke. Thats what was reported. The Police contacted the families.
I'll bet the coke was tainted with fentanyl, a lot of people die that way. They don't even know they're doing fentanyl, and these guys don't seem like the kind of guys who would use fentanyl, but a little coke to party is up a bit, sure. Sad, cuz they may have survived had they gone inside.
They also said they had three times the normal amount of f
A lawyer just said the toxology results are not in the public domain and family have unofficial information.
@@kathytracy7952oh wow... I didn't hear that. This case is soooo sad!! 😢😢
I heard no mention of F. Coke, yes and "other substances". Did I miss it?
Nancy doesn't understand the life of the drug culture.
I thought 32 was freezing temps. If that guy was so wasted he slept 2 days, he doesn’t know what was happening. If that’s what happened.
Did the 5th guy supply the drugs because he has been awol. As far as the parents, wives, and girlfriends why were they so sure these men don't do drugs? Only use drugs from the doctor and pharmacy. Fentanyl has changed the risks of party drugs.
They did weed most likely it was laced.
Who knows. They'll find ot.
That’s what I have been lead to believe the 5th friend was the drug dealer and he brought the drugs over and delivered them but didn’t partake with the party favors
I've heard his cousins say we don't need to be worried about Lee an I'd Believe the cousin since this is the same cousin that 2 of these guys were supposed to be working with him that Monday an he was in contact with his cousin on Sunday at some point. I kinda believe this cousin
@@babyphatpenut he said.. she said..
Hearsay
To say that their cars were still parked outside. Okay, I don't think he was outside retrieving mail or watering the yard to notice 🙄
He had a dog!
I said this from day one! A bunch of friend’s partying decide to do some coke! The coke had fentanyl in it, that they didn’t know. The one guy went to bed because he is feeling the effects of the drugs and passes out for two days! The other three go outside to maybe have a smoke or the drug is making them fell hot and one of them drops, the other two try to help him and the second one goes down, the lone survivor is trying to help his friends and also starts feeling bad, he goes for help and collapses on the back deck. The temperature reduces their body temps below 80 and the heart can’t beat anymore. It’s a shame. I’m not saying they were bad guys, just parting like so many do. But today you can’t think you’re just doing a couple of line of coke. fentanyl is a pure killer. May they rest in peace.
Everything you said 👌
My parents always thought I was squeaky clean. I wasn’t in my 20’s and 30’s, but they didn’t live with me and had no idea of my day to day activities.
Thank you! Same story with me! When I was with my homeboys "doing drugs" you think I wanted my man at home to know?! Absolutely not! Thank God this was years ago 😭😭
Nancy, I couldn't sleep after last nights show. To think a son was stabbed 100 times and she got probation. I cried for the injustice. :(
yeah that seemed so so messed up!!
Let that be all the way around he would have been sentenced to life
Nancy puts me to sleep in 5 minutes with her BS. She's better than Sominex.
If you read the facts of this case, Nancy Grace who is good at what she does, is really over selling this as a mysterious foul-play story.. what makes the most sense is exactly what the police said happened. They all got together to drink beers and took some illicit drugs.. which was admitted by the gentleman who's friends died. If these men took something that they are not used to, it made them pass out.. unfortunately for the friends, they all passed out on the back patio. And froze to death before they woke up. Put yourself in the guy's shoes who lived, he wakes up after being asleep for more than 48 hours straight, to find police at his feet telling him his friends are all dead outside. This man has had no time to mourn the loss of his friends, but instead is having to deal with accusations that he did something wrong. People seem to forget that investigators and police officers do this for a living, and they would have known immediately had there been foul play.. the reason I know for certain this is possible is because my sister and her boyfriend once passed out on our back patio.. and they were just drinking beers! We found them half Frozen at 9:00 a.m. the next morning. Thank goodness it was an Arizona winter, and not the snowy winter as is in this story.. sometimes the simplest explanation is the right one, even when it's hard to believe. People this day and age just have to have some foul play involved in stories like this because simple explanations aren't great for news media and personalities like Nancy Grace .. it's an absolute disgrace what these families, and the media has done to this poor man..
@@nickv4073🙄
This whole thing is crazy! But I want to say how amazing you are, you’ve given me the power to stand up and speak out! ❤
What. Do you know her background. She allegedly made a woman commit suicide . She spreads misinformation all the time
If you read the facts of this case, Nancy Grace who is good at what she does, is really over selling this as a mysterious foul-play story.. what makes the most sense is exactly what the police said happened. They all got together to drink beers and took some illicit drugs.. which was admitted by the gentleman who's friends died. If these men took something that they are not used to, it made them pass out.. unfortunately for the friends, they all passed out on the back patio. And froze to death before they woke up. Put yourself in the guy's shoes who lived, he wakes up after being asleep for more than 48 hours straight, to find police at his feet telling him his friends are all dead outside. This man has had no time to mourn the loss of his friends, but instead is having to deal with accusations that he did something wrong. People seem to forget that investigators and police officers do this for a living, and they would have known immediately had there been foul play.. the reason I know for certain this is possible is because my sister and her boyfriend once passed out on our back patio.. and they were just drinking beers! We found them half Frozen at 9:00 a.m. the next morning. Thank goodness it was an Arizona winter, and not the snowy winter as is in this story.. sometimes the simplest explanation is the right one, even when it's hard to believe. People this day and age just have to have some foul play involved in stories like this because simple explanations aren't great for news media and personalities like Nancy Grace .. it's an absolute disgrace what these families, and the media has done to this poor man..
THIS IS HORRIFIC AND VERY STRANGE! CONDOLENCES TO ALL THE FAMILIES THEY WERE YOUNG😢
This is such a sad, devastatingly painful situation for the 3 men's families💔