In Morocco we plant clover for winter feed for cows but ours is much taller than this one in the video it gests as high as 80 cm we chop it 4 times at least during one season thank you
Very cool! We use clover for wildlife food plots mostly. We do mow it a few times a year to help with weed competition. Cool to have viewers from Morocco!
Just some thought if your that worried about the spray you shouldn't put it on your foods food I personally spray once with round up in the fall and it's dirt in the spring we also have snow for 4 months in the winter I'm sure that plays a part in them dieing completely off the big weed around here is golden rod I will go around in June or July with a little spray bottle and hit whatever comes back up and if it's a calm day you will only kill what your trying to spray, we also don't have as much easy access to good sprays in Ontario a farmer has to get it but they always have round up
Thanks for pointing out the link. We will get that fixed. Here is a link for a product that is safe for clover, chicory and alfalfa. whitetailinstitute.com/arrest-max-herbicide/
I mixed 1.25 oz to gallon of clethodium with 1.5 oz of surfactant. Used a 3 gallon pump sprayer for spot treatment. Hope I didn't overdo the herbicides and surfactant.
I'm doing a clover lawn here in Dallas. Is that weird? I do it because it is a pollinator. I like to see nature everyday when I look outside. I'm also going crazy with hand picking out broadleaf and grasses... 😭 Really want to just see clovers. Do you think I should use crop oil still if I only have 2500sqft of lawn? Thank you
@@Whitetail_Properties thanks, also I've had great success with the clover but it's been turning yellow then brown. Is possible it's dead or can be revived? It looked so thick I thought water wouldn't be the issue. Thanks again!
@@Whitetail_Properties would you recommend mowing clovers before applying herbicides or spray first then mow? Clovers are about 5 inches. I also have clovers in 4 weeks germination, is it safe to spray on that? Thanks
Often those "weeds" are at least as nutritious as the clover. People use clover mostly because it is popular and it builds soil fertility. If you start with rich soil, you have more options.
No man, most weeds are not anywhere nutritious as clover, LOL. WOW. Clover has great protien content, weeds do not. Yikes. Plus we plant it because they are perenial and can last 10 years or more if you just spray in spring and trim in summer. Every 3 yrs may need to add some Phos and K++. Very economical and effiicient. Thats why.
@@roseco581 There are many many species of "weeds" with all ranges of C/N ratios. Not all weeds fix nitrogen though. I've seen deer select weeds over clover just this year . The "weeds" were growing in better soil, thus better nutrition.
Great video! I am my gun clubs agriculture coordinator and have some questions pertaining to clover planting and maintenance, would you be available for email question?
@@Whitetail_Properties Okay thanks, so I live in upstate NY ( just below ADK's) and have a 12 food plots with my 350acre gun club that total about 20 combined acres. Soil ph is okay, very successful with radishes, Wrye and clover. This year I want to plant them all clover and once planted wanted to know the steps after it. How long until I mow clover? Why should you mow? What kind of grass killer did you use in the video? What kind of clover fertilizer should be used when its growing?
@@pa7145 Thanks for the questions! . Why you should mow, mowing helps with weed control, if you see grasses or other broadleaf weeds starting to bloom or put on a seed head, that is the time to mow. It will help reduce the reproduction of the grass or weeds in the plot. Try to mow right before a heavy rain and the clover should bounce back very quickly. Try not to mow lower than 6 inches tall. Depending on rainfall, browse pressure, weed/grass competition etc. try to mow your clover about 4 times a year. Here, Tim is using Clethodim, which is an annual and perennial grass selective herbicide. Spraying really depends on how much weed competition there is, and how much that weed competition bothers you. After all, is it just a food plot! If weed competition is bad and threatening taking over the plot, apply proper herbicide to the plot based on weeds within a few days after you mow. The clethodim or a product called Arrest will handle your grasses, and a product like "Slay" will handle broadleaf weeds. Fertilize your plot at a rate of 400 lbs per acre with 0-20-20 fertilizer. If that is unavailable, use something with the least amount of Nitrogen (The first number on the bag) You can do this application all at once, or half in the spring and other half in the fall. I have put links to all the herbicides I mentioned as well as crop oils (help with herbicide translocation through plant for better kill) and the clover seed we use. Hope this helps!
@@davidfiedler6988 I have had a Whitetail Institute Clover plot in the woods now for about 6 years. I just redid it this spring. It actually has done really well to be in the woods. I could have gotten more time out of the first plot if I would have maintained it better. It was over run with grass after 5 years so i replanted. My plot is approx. 20 yards x 60 yards. I put 100 pounds of 3-18-18 on it, because thats what the co-op had that was close to 0-20-20. If its a new plot in the woods I would lime it really good. I used pelletized lime and have added lime to mine every year since I started it. I probably need to do a soil test on it, but its doing great. I only have woodland, so my plots are in the woods. I have been experimenting with different things. Im gonna try some brassicas this fall, and winter rye. Surprised that they do well in the woods. but with lime and time I think it will work. Get as much light to it as you can. Hope this info is of help to you. The deer and turkeys do use it by the way. EE
@@luvbgrass I really appreciate all of the information you have given me. Sadly here lately with all of the rain we have been getting in GA my Lime and seeds washed away LOL. So I am working of getting a sears garden tractor to where my food plot is so I can disc the dirt and give the lime and seeds a better chance. Plus I have been marking trees that need to removed to bring in more filtered sun light.
How many ounces per gallon? Most people don’t have 3 acre clover plots we have small Clover kill plots that are way way less than an acre. I hate that most all sprays go by ounces per acre.… It should always be ounces per gallon it’s so much easier that way.
Not sure what the ounce per gallon ratio would be. It would just take some more math to figure out if you wanted to spray that way. Most all herbicides we've used have been ounces per acre. But, agreed, it would simplify things if they told you ounces per gallon.
You shouldn't have to mow brassica plots. Using a grass selective herbicide is okay for brassica plots because it wont hurt the broadleaf plants. If you're having weed problems in those plots maybe try seeding a little heavier. The broadleaf plants should shade out most weeds so there isn't competition between the plants.
Whitetail Properties can u spray the clover in July or is it best to spray it in May? I’ve mowed mine twice so far this year looks good but some grasses are starting to develop.
@@bigweb0311 That is typically what we do. Mow once or twice in the spring/summer. Then depending on weather we will spray anywhere from May until July. Essentially, whenever the grasses start popping up and the weather gives us a good window to spray. We didn't get this plot sprayed until the end of June, because of the weather we've had here in the midwest this year, which is fine. It had been mowed once which helped keep the weeds down until it could be sprayed.
White-tailed deer sure do love a good food topper of glyphosate and clethodium…yum yum
In Morocco we plant clover for winter feed for cows but ours is much taller than this one in the video it gests as high as 80 cm we chop it 4 times at least during one season
thank you
Very cool! We use clover for wildlife food plots mostly. We do mow it a few times a year to help with weed competition. Cool to have viewers from Morocco!
Just some thought if your that worried about the spray you shouldn't put it on your foods food I personally spray once with round up in the fall and it's dirt in the spring we also have snow for 4 months in the winter I'm sure that plays a part in them dieing completely off the big weed around here is golden rod I will go around in June or July with a little spray bottle and hit whatever comes back up and if it's a calm day you will only kill what your trying to spray, we also don't have as much easy access to good sprays in Ontario a farmer has to get it but they always have round up
We have chickory in our clover plots, I’m guessing the broadleaf spray will kill it? The link for the broadleaf spray is bad.
Thanks for pointing out the link. We will get that fixed. Here is a link for a product that is safe for clover, chicory and alfalfa.
whitetailinstitute.com/arrest-max-herbicide/
Good video
I mixed 1.25 oz to gallon of clethodium with 1.5 oz of surfactant. Used a 3 gallon pump sprayer for spot treatment. Hope I didn't overdo the herbicides and surfactant.
Hi Travis, how did it work out using 1.25 oz of Celthodim and 1.5 oz of surfactant?
I'm doing a clover lawn here in Dallas. Is that weird? I do it because it is a pollinator. I like to see nature everyday when I look outside. I'm also going crazy with hand picking out broadleaf and grasses... 😭 Really want to just see clovers. Do you think I should use crop oil still if I only have 2500sqft of lawn? Thank you
It could certainly help
@@Whitetail_Properties thanks, also I've had great success with the clover but it's been turning yellow then brown. Is possible it's dead or can be revived? It looked so thick I thought water wouldn't be the issue. Thanks again!
@@samuraioodon It could be stressed from the heat/lack of water. Its pretty resilient stuff.
@@Whitetail_Properties would you recommend mowing clovers before applying herbicides or spray first then mow? Clovers are about 5 inches. I also have clovers in 4 weeks germination, is it safe to spray on that? Thanks
@@samuraioodon you can spray/mow in whatever order you want. If you mow first. Wait at least a day or two before applying herbicide.
Often those "weeds" are at least as nutritious as the clover. People use clover mostly because it is popular and it builds soil fertility. If you start with rich soil, you have more options.
No man, most weeds are not anywhere nutritious as clover, LOL. WOW. Clover has great protien content, weeds do not. Yikes. Plus we plant it because they are perenial and can last 10 years or more if you just spray in spring and trim in summer. Every 3 yrs may need to add some Phos and K++. Very economical and effiicient. Thats why.
@@roseco581 There are many many species of "weeds" with all ranges of C/N ratios. Not all weeds fix nitrogen though. I've seen deer select weeds over clover just this year . The "weeds" were growing in better soil, thus better nutrition.
Great video! I am my gun clubs agriculture coordinator and have some questions pertaining to clover planting and maintenance, would you be available for email question?
Maybe just post your questions here in the comments in case anyone else has a similar question so we can answer it for everyone! Thanks!
@@Whitetail_Properties Okay thanks, so I live in upstate NY ( just below ADK's) and have a 12 food plots with my 350acre gun club that total about 20 combined acres. Soil ph is okay, very successful with radishes, Wrye and clover. This year I want to plant them all clover and once planted wanted to know the steps after it.
How long until I mow clover? Why should you mow?
What kind of grass killer did you use in the video?
What kind of clover fertilizer should be used when its growing?
@@pa7145 Thanks for the questions! .
Why you should mow, mowing helps with weed control, if you see grasses or other broadleaf weeds starting to bloom or put on a seed head, that is the time to mow. It will help reduce the reproduction of the grass or weeds in the plot. Try to mow right before a heavy rain and the clover should bounce back very quickly. Try not to mow lower than 6 inches tall. Depending on rainfall, browse pressure, weed/grass competition etc. try to mow your clover about 4 times a year.
Here, Tim is using Clethodim, which is an annual and perennial grass selective herbicide. Spraying really depends on how much weed competition there is, and how much that weed competition bothers you. After all, is it just a food plot! If weed competition is bad and threatening taking over the plot, apply proper herbicide to the plot based on weeds within a few days after you mow. The clethodim or a product called Arrest will handle your grasses, and a product like "Slay" will handle broadleaf weeds.
Fertilize your plot at a rate of 400 lbs per acre with 0-20-20 fertilizer. If that is unavailable, use something with the least amount of Nitrogen (The first number on the bag) You can do this application all at once, or half in the spring and other half in the fall.
I have put links to all the herbicides I mentioned as well as crop oils (help with herbicide translocation through plant for better kill) and the clover seed we use. Hope this helps!
What clover seeds did you use to get a 6 year life span out of it?
We use whitetail institute imperial clover. It has worked very well for us!
@@Whitetail_Properties how well does that work in the woods? I am putting a food plot in the woods which gets filtered light.
@@davidfiedler6988 I have had a Whitetail Institute Clover plot in the woods now for about 6 years. I just redid it this spring. It actually has done really well to be in the woods. I could have gotten more time out of the first plot if I would have maintained it better. It was over run with grass after 5 years so i replanted. My plot is approx. 20 yards x 60 yards. I put 100 pounds of 3-18-18 on it, because thats what the co-op had that was close to 0-20-20. If its a new plot in the woods I would lime it really good. I used pelletized lime and have added lime to mine every year since I started it. I probably need to do a soil test on it, but its doing great. I only have woodland, so my plots are in the woods. I have been experimenting with different things. Im gonna try some brassicas this fall, and winter rye. Surprised that they do well in the woods. but with lime and time I think it will work. Get as much light to it as you can. Hope this info is of help to you. The deer and turkeys do use it by the way. EE
@@luvbgrass I really appreciate all of the information you have given me. Sadly here lately with all of the rain we have been getting in GA my Lime and seeds washed away LOL. So I am working of getting a sears garden tractor to where my food plot is so I can disc the dirt and give the lime and seeds a better chance. Plus I have been marking trees that need to removed to bring in more filtered sun light.
I would recommend safety glasses n gloves at the very least when using chemicals.
How many ounces per gallon? Most people don’t have 3 acre clover plots we have small Clover kill plots that are way way less than an acre.
I hate that most all sprays go by ounces per acre.… It should always be ounces per gallon it’s so much easier that way.
Not sure what the ounce per gallon ratio would be. It would just take some more math to figure out if you wanted to spray that way. Most all herbicides we've used have been ounces per acre. But, agreed, it would simplify things if they told you ounces per gallon.
I called the company and they said 1 to 1.5 oz to a gallon. With 2 oz surfactant.
@@travissmith-wz5nc Very helpful, Thanks!
Will this hurt brassicas or radishes? Curious if could use on my plot which has these will clover
You shouldn't have to mow brassica plots. Using a grass selective herbicide is okay for brassica plots because it wont hurt the broadleaf plants. If you're having weed problems in those plots maybe try seeding a little heavier. The broadleaf plants should shade out most weeds so there isn't competition between the plants.
People should plant more clover not kill it out
Use crop oil….instead of surfactant. They are different
Was that crop oil you mixed in there?
Yes it was a surfactant to help the herbicide stick and uptake into the grasses.
Whitetail Properties can u spray the clover in July or is it best to spray it in May? I’ve mowed mine twice so far this year looks good but some grasses are starting to develop.
@@bigweb0311
That is typically what we do. Mow once or twice in the spring/summer. Then depending on weather we will spray anywhere from May until July. Essentially, whenever the grasses start popping up and the weather gives us a good window to spray. We didn't get this plot sprayed until the end of June, because of the weather we've had here in the midwest this year, which is fine. It had been mowed once which helped keep the weeds down until it could be sprayed.
How many gallon spray is that? I am trying to figure out if a 25gal is big enough for a 3acre plot
Watch till 2:20 he clearly says 40 gallons.....
Sprayer is 40 gallons!