Linux Crash Course - Desktop Environments

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  • Опубліковано 22 лис 2024

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  • @vladk4444
    @vladk4444 Рік тому +11

    XFCE ???
    Light but powerful DE
    To name a few features that I really enjoy.
    -Custom panels that can look like any other environments you demoed.
    -Themes, Workspaces with different backgrounds for each workspace.
    -Thunar file manager - Custom actions to run custom scripts based on file type
    -Clipman clipboard - with actions based on regex rules

    • @coalhater392
      @coalhater392 Рік тому +2

      Yeah but xfce is ugly if you don't customize it and I think most people don't care about customizing their DE.

    • @vladk4444
      @vladk4444 Рік тому +6

      @@coalhater392 for sure, I don't like the default either. But it doesn't mean that it doesn't exist or should be ignored. Diversity is what makes Linux the way it is.

  • @johanb.7869
    @johanb.7869 Рік тому +6

    KDE for me. I don't use work spaces because I only have 3 things open all the time. HTOP, Thunderbird and Firefox. And everything I use I pinned on the taskbar.

  • @michaelplaczek9385
    @michaelplaczek9385 Рік тому +7

    I would like to see the alternative, Window Managers

  • @clivep0100
    @clivep0100 8 місяців тому

    As a person who has come from a Windows 10 environment I am learning about GNOME
    and finding it friendly

  • @dragonballjiujitsu
    @dragonballjiujitsu Рік тому +2

    Plasma (now that it is stable) is to me the best, most powerful DE you can get. The only feature missing is an "export setting" button that will save me 3-4 days of work on a new system.

  • @glucid4222
    @glucid4222 Рік тому +7

    It's a bit of a shame that you didn't include XFCE in your video. Watching it though, it only served to reinforce the validity of the reasons why I chose it over the others. Another aspect that it might have been useful to cover as well is where desktop managers fit in the grand scheme of things. Yes, the distinction between desktop environments and window managers is easier to explain, but I'd have welcomed if you'd have covered desktop managers and the distinctions between them and desktop environments. Case in point: for my daily driver I use the XFCE version of MX Linux, as it's the perfect mix between customization versatility and in-built system management tools, and this particular XFCE desktop environment uses XFWM as the window manager and LightDM as the desktop manager.

    • @johanb.7869
      @johanb.7869 Рік тому

      XFCE is nice, but themes look so much better on KDE. Fluent dark theme for instance, my favorite theme. And on the KDE taskbar you can pin anything. I always use the tarballs of Thunderbird and Firefox. You can pin them on the taskbar without them being launchers like you need on Cinnamon and Xfce.

  • @marenjones6665
    @marenjones6665 Місяць тому

    Thank you for this. You're so thorough in your explanations, and I learned a lot!

  • @synen
    @synen Рік тому +18

    I respectfully request Window manager videos to move to the next level, thank you.

  • @AnantaAkash.Podder
    @AnantaAkash.Podder 8 місяців тому +2

    Very very Thankful Sir... Your providing invaluable Resources to the Public for Free... Thank You Very Much sir... Love from Bangladesh...😊😊

  • @nachovarga5562
    @nachovarga5562 Рік тому +2

    Omg I love the new intro music

  • @sadeqalmuntafeky6680
    @sadeqalmuntafeky6680 Рік тому +7

    I like the new intro, thanks for these great information.

  • @peternzioki4555
    @peternzioki4555 Рік тому +3

    great video as always Jay. thank or the great explanation. much love from Nairobi Kenya.

  • @Handelsbilanzdefizit
    @Handelsbilanzdefizit Рік тому +6

    Great content, as always.
    I know the channel name is "Learn linux TV".
    But it would be good, to have one episode about BSD,
    how it's related to linux, and all the history/legacy stuff.
    Just to mention, that linux has an older "brother".
    People should know, that BSD is almost fully compatible to linux.
    Most linux-applications and software runs fine on BSD, without problems.

    • @sotecluxan4221
      @sotecluxan4221 Рік тому

      Why do u recommend BSD?

    • @igrewold
      @igrewold Рік тому

      bsd meant for admins & IT learners
      GhostBSD is usable though.

    • @cameronbosch1213
      @cameronbosch1213 Рік тому +3

      Except for GNOME 3 & later (which requires systemd for certain elements) or other things that rely on systemd or Wayland, you're correct. That's what POSIX was (kind of) for, even though almost all Linux distros aren't technically compliant, they are still "close enough".
      As for a short history of UNIX, BSD, & Linux:
      UNIX was under a trade secret license (quite lenient) by Bell Labs (the precursor to AT&T) because at the time, Bell had a telephone monopoly and they were forbidden to enter the computer market by the U.S. government. This led to it being adopted by many universities. But when Bell was broken up and split into Baby Bells (two of which became Verizon & AT&T), that restriction was removed from AT&T, and BSD was what led to the original Unix wars back in the 1980s after AT&T (now able to make UNIX proprietary) sued the University of California Berkeley for making their own BSD (Berekely Software Distribution).
      While AT&T & UC Berkeley were involved in their lawsuit, Richard Stallman founded the GNU Project to make an open-source UNIX. He & his team remade most of UNIX's applications, like tar, bash, grep, emacs, nano, etc. from clean room implementations to avoid any potential lawsuits from AT&T. However, as late as 1990, they still hadn't finished their kernel, GNU Hurd, and AT&T & UC Berkeley were still at it in court. The kernel being the "core" of an OS, made the GNU OS as a whole incomplete until 1991.
      In 1991, Linus Torvalds made his own kernel for the GNU tools for his hardware, and while it was only a "hobbyist project" at first, after about a year later, when he relicensed the kernel, which was originally called Freax (pronounced Iike "Freaks") but a kernel admin changed it to Linux, a name Linus Torvalds dismissed as too egotistical and ultimately stuck, under the GNU GPL v2 (where it remains to this day), it gained massive popularity for developers who wanted UNIX compatibility without getting sued.
      AT&T couldn't sue Linus Torvalds or the GNU Project (including Richard Stallman) because the implementations of the GNU/Linux OS contained no proprietary UNIX code. This led it to become extremely popular for servers and even resulted in GNU Hurd basically having all work stopped on it in favor of Linux or later Linux-libre (a version of the Linux kernel without the proprietary firmware blobs, mostly for networking drivers). And since then, Linux had many distros spawn up, from Soft Landing System in 1992 (which was later superseded by Slackware in 1993), to Yggdrasil (which is sort of being revived as of 2022), Debian in 1993, Red Hat in 1994 and then Ubuntu in 2004. Linux truly is the users distro.

  • @oscs4556
    @oscs4556 Рік тому +7

    You can rename workspaces or virtual desktops in plasma and it got more custom settings for it too

  • @davemeech
    @davemeech Рік тому +4

    I have tried the gnome flavours on Ubuntu and Fedora and am currently using cinnamon with mint, and cinnamon is definitely nicer to use as a Linux noob and lifelong Windows user. I want to try out kde plasma to see if I have a bit more success doing what I want to do. The pain point in mint is having mirrored panels on each monitor, with both having the same menu bar, shortcuts and status bar.

    • @cameronbosch1213
      @cameronbosch1213 Рік тому +1

      I just wish Cinnamon started moving to Wayland... I mean, GNOME & KDE Plasma have, Xfce is almost there, and MATE & Unity have plans to do so.

    • @davemeech
      @davemeech Рік тому

      @@cameronbosch1213 I admittedly understood none of that haha. I'm sure after a bit of googling and a bit more time with Linus distros I'll pick it up.

    • @Trevor_Bennett
      @Trevor_Bennett Рік тому +1

      KDE is beautiful but I find that I always have multiple program crashes with it. It also feels very floaty and not nearly as as solid as Gnome or Xfce.

    • @cameronbosch1213
      @cameronbosch1213 Рік тому

      @Trevor Bennett Xfce will have Wayland support by version 4.20 (the next release). I think it's also a pretty good choice, as you get good customization options while still being relatively lightweight (the default window manager Xfwm doesn't even have any animations) and relatively easy to use for traditional computer users (especially when you add the Whisker Menu, which many distros do include by default, and I would 100% add because it gives you a much better experience than the "stock" applications menu). I like EndeavourOS's version the best.

  • @SwiatLinuksa
    @SwiatLinuksa Рік тому +2

    Definitely liked more old intro... But thx for new interesting movie

  • @eleven2435
    @eleven2435 Рік тому +4

    Gnome! That looks really nice!

  • @shreyanshsaha6170
    @shreyanshsaha6170 Рік тому +5

    Please make an in depth video on 'graphics card and linux', covering every aspect of it in details including optimus technology.
    I mainly want an in depth guide on optimus technology, which could cover every possibilities as mentioned in arch wiki. Basic ones such as using optimus manager, or simply making one as primary is easy, but i saw in the arch wiki that thier are so many things we can do with our two cards (please refer to arch wiki), but due to lack of background in such things, i am heck confused :/
    Please make a video about it, or maybe a playlist. Its a good start of learning hardwares too :)
    (sorry if i made any gramatical or spelling mistakes😐)

    • @abocwsg2328
      @abocwsg2328 Рік тому +2

      ooo yeah, I'd like to learn about that.

  • @ArniesTech
    @ArniesTech Рік тому +20

    Absolutely fantastic Video Jay and perfectly presented, as always. GNOME and Plasma are indeed the Giants of the Linux Desktop 💪🙏

  • @stevew270
    @stevew270 11 місяців тому

    I've been using KDE/Plasma starting around a year before 3 reached the end of its life cycle, I was sad and almost gave up on it when 5 came out but through good and bad I've managed to stick with it.

  • @davey820051
    @davey820051 Рік тому +2

    As always, a thorough and well-presented video.But- I have to quibble with the implication that Cinnamon has to have a discrete GPU to perform well. I'm running it with no issues on a couple of machines with pretty old Core i5 processors with integrated graphics (my desktop is 10 years old, my laptop is 5), and I think my experience is pretty common.

  • @Patricia-kk8tr
    @Patricia-kk8tr Рік тому +3

    Excellent tutorial thanks. You have the knack of giving clear visual comparison, and I can see how well scripted it is, because I have a better understanding of three DEs and how they differ in three quarters of an hour.

  • @robertmurphy9320
    @robertmurphy9320 Рік тому +2

    jay: you still liking that HP Dev One?? keep the videos llike this coming. also do one on having multiple drives in Linux for windows users who came over to Linux.

  • @kenzieduckmoo
    @kenzieduckmoo Рік тому +1

    "You can use any desktop environment you want, as long as its not Gnome" - Henry Ford

  • @Jan_van_Waaij
    @Jan_van_Waaij Рік тому +1

    I love touchscreen. Which Linux desktop / distribution do you recommend for touchscreen laptops? I heard Linux does not always work well with touchscreen.

  • @TugboatTony
    @TugboatTony Рік тому +4

    Great video. I have always wanted to be shown the difference between the DE. I'm still new to Linux and am learning my way around. Thank you.

  • @armanisadzhanyan7138
    @armanisadzhanyan7138 Рік тому +1

    Thank you for the content Jay ❤️

  • @wyfyj
    @wyfyj Рік тому +1

    Thank you for your videos as usual.

  • @Martin_likes_beer
    @Martin_likes_beer Рік тому +2

    I just want to say thanks for your hard work on these vid. I've started planning migrate from Windows to some Linux distro after I saw a couple vids that gaming on Linux is pretty good now. I've got the time to do research if I encounter problems and learn. Never used linux before. Windows seems to get worse and worse with every release and I really dont like how MS handles Windows.
    The biggest reason I haven't tried Linux yet is probably gaming tbh.
    atm I'm looking at which distro I'll be using. Thinking I'll dive in deep and get Arch with Budgie desktop environment.
    What do you guys think? As I said I've the time to spend tinkering and learning. I'm no tech-gigachad and neither a 87year old grandma. I've pretty much always built my own computers, I'm my family and friends "computer-fix" guy, I like moding my games, back in the good old day of counter-strike 1.5 I made my cs clan's website in HTML. With coding I'm a grandma rather than a gigachad ^_^
    Ooof I went on longer than I thought, I just wanted to say thanks really :P

  • @tedcalouri2694
    @tedcalouri2694 Рік тому +1

    ANy chance you will be doing an LPIC cert prep series?

    • @abocwsg2328
      @abocwsg2328 Рік тому +1

      Idk what that is, but I would love to learn.

  • @Raphty
    @Raphty Рік тому +1

    Great video! And that’s a long time from recording to release.

  • @oscs4556
    @oscs4556 Рік тому +2

    Missing xfce as another major desktop environment in this video

  • @igrewold
    @igrewold Рік тому +1

    Thanks J, good stuff.
    I had hard time with i3 & sway, always comboin' ALT+CTRL+F5 then logging in then reading man pages of them, seek key combos that perform a function
    then back to CTRL+ALT+F7
    But they do save memory & consume little like 300~400MB of ram

    • @coalhater392
      @coalhater392 Рік тому

      Well sure but even kde plasma which is the heaviest only uses about 1Gb to 1.3Gb so if you have a decent amount of ram 8 to 16 Gb you don't really need to worry. But if you prefer tiling window managers like me go for it.

    • @igrewold
      @igrewold Рік тому

      @@coalhater392
      on a 4GB ram system, 1/2 gig goes to IGP
      1~1.5 GB for GUI kde/gnome/xfce
      left ram is 2gb
      when you start a game that needs 4gb ram it stutters
      but with Window Managers, little ram consumed
      it gives more ram for use

    • @coalhater392
      @coalhater392 Рік тому

      @@igrewold I agree if you only have 4Gb of ram then it does matter how heavy your DE is but since ram is relatively cheap I recommend buying another 4Gb stick or upgrade to a single 8Gb if you only have one ram slot.

  • @Trevor_Bennett
    @Trevor_Bennett Рік тому +1

    I hate to make requests, especially on channels that do such an awesome job... for free. However, I'm very interested in the sponsor you always mention, Linode. I would like to see your process to create a website on that platform. I already have hosting but I am interested in moving to a new host someday.
    As far as DE's go, to me, Gnome feels solid with very little in the way of customizability while KDE gives you many options to customize but it doesn't feel "solid." I find KDE to be floaty. I usually always end up back on Xfce. It takes some time to setup how I like it but it always feels rock solid. I never get the random crashes that KDE gives me. I just wish the Xfce Fedora spin was as polished as the Mint Xfce spin.

  • @accumulator4825
    @accumulator4825 5 місяців тому

    Really good video, thank you

  • @guilherme5094
    @guilherme5094 Рік тому +2

    Really nice👍

  • @patpopov
    @patpopov Рік тому +1

    No Xfce? I'm absolutely fuming!

  • @jeremyscott2486
    @jeremyscott2486 Рік тому

    Such a great vid. For a newcomer like me, very informative.

  • @investbieren9031
    @investbieren9031 Рік тому

    I've used gnome and kde. But i love Xfce

  • @dogday92
    @dogday92 Рік тому

    something occurring to me while watching this informative video relates to installing the Plasma desktop environment, if I chose to install it on an existing Linus Mint installation, how might that be accomplished & would I need to reinstall my existing software applications??

  • @orbitx16
    @orbitx16 Рік тому

    Sir, How can I make my own desktop environment?

  • @krishankumarmtr
    @krishankumarmtr 6 місяців тому

    I have setup the ubuntu and ssh and allow port 22 in ufw.
    Done the port forwarding. But not able to access ssh using other laptop on other network internet.

  • @wisteela
    @wisteela 6 місяців тому

    Excellent video

  • @micnolmadtube
    @micnolmadtube Рік тому

    Hm, considering how many de's that are offered in for example debian 12 I was hoping for a bit more than this.. also did you forget workspaces for KDE or does it just not have them? I was also hoping to hear just a smitch on themes.. is it gnome that has the least amount of customisation?

  • @CarlitoBrigante-w2z
    @CarlitoBrigante-w2z Рік тому

    Hi Jay.. Can I run Linode on a chromebook?

  • @terrybaileysr.3714
    @terrybaileysr.3714 4 місяці тому

    It appears I like gnome de but like dolphin file manager. Can I have both?

  • @pestpatroller
    @pestpatroller Рік тому

    I don't turn on panel edit mode when I add or remove panel applets. Does not seem to need being turned on.

  • @rdnowlin1206
    @rdnowlin1206 Місяць тому

    Why is education so expensive in this country? Right now, I'm watching Learn Linux TV, and learning so much - for FREE! Why must people spend $100K just to get a piece of paper (diploma)?

  • @UltraZelda64
    @UltraZelda64 2 місяці тому

    Nautilus' resizing feature is actually really freaking cool, I didn't know it did that. Too bad the desktop sucks!

  • @SeoKayo
    @SeoKayo 3 місяці тому

    Has anyone find that after upgrading to 24.04LTS (Ubunto) File Managers is missing. Please create a video on how to locate the file managers to PIN them in the desktop. Thank you!

  • @MindCaged
    @MindCaged 10 місяців тому

    This was informative, I know being forced to use a specific interface is one of the things I've hated about Windows versions, when I'm so used to using one, the next version of windows /insists/ on changing things, just so there's some /obvious/ difference from the older windows so people actually feel like they're getting something new. I know I've heard nothing but negative remarks about the Win11 taskbar/start menu changes, though I don't know if that's just the algorithm giving me more of the same that I've already seen.
    One of Linux's strengths but also paradoxically one of it's weaknesses is that it just has so many different options. There's definitely a phenomenon where a person can be completely overwhelmed by too many choices. I know I've fallen prey to it when I went shopping at Microcenter and there's an entire aisle full of mice and keyboards and I'm like, WTF are the differences? It's even more frustrating when I search through all the options and basically none of them have what I actually want exactly. In that way Linux is a bit intimidating for me, as I'm already having to drop most of the advanced stuff I know, but then I have to check out all sorts of different options without really knowing what the differences are. And there's some niche stuff that just doesn't carry over. Or if you /can/ do the same things it requires learning a whole new system. Like my AutoHotkey script for example from what little I've learned would require me to learn python and almost code it from scratch, though since it's lower level it might be even more powerful.
    Basically it's a whole lot of work. I almost wish Linux was developed to the current state back when I was first learning, back when I had energy and enthusiasm. It would've /definitely/ been an easier adjustment back when I hardly knew much about windows beyond how to perform basic tasks like installing/launching a program.

  • @1diyproject
    @1diyproject Рік тому +1

    27 Sep to 03 Feb 🙂

  • @moalawami5262
    @moalawami5262 4 місяці тому

    I appreciate you :)

  • @AM-tu1rc
    @AM-tu1rc Рік тому

    This is an older version of the Cinnamon desktop.

  • @Umarzaks
    @Umarzaks Рік тому +2

    I’m 3rd😅

  • @bshmoove08
    @bshmoove08 Рік тому +1

    Second!

  • @davidsandrock7826
    @davidsandrock7826 Рік тому

    That you say gooey instead of gee you eye might be the worst thing ever, at least for my brain.

  • @Amaqse
    @Amaqse Рік тому +1

    no CDE not interested xD

  • @collinsokara1372
    @collinsokara1372 Рік тому +2

    I’m here being the first

  • @mk3suprafy
    @mk3suprafy 5 місяців тому

    Does this channel have approved comments only like The Linux Experiment and Chris Titus Tech? Will this show?
    Update: Looks like my comments are being removed. Mint says you should agree with their politics. Gnome says on their welcome page that "marginalized people's safety is prioritized over privileged people's comfort."

  • @BeesCantSwim
    @BeesCantSwim Рік тому +2

    Thanks for the video but you really do talk too much.

    • @abocwsg2328
      @abocwsg2328 Рік тому +4

      He wants to give as much detail as possible, and if yo dont like it, just skip ahead in the video, that's what timestamps are for.