HOW TO BUILD A SAUNA + FULL PRICE BREAKDOWN
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- Опубліковано 25 вер 2024
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Hello Patrick, nice build. Most likely the vapor barrier (bubble wrap) that you used is not high temp. If it's not high temp, it will evaporate bad fumes that are not good for you. We use special Sauna Thermal Vapor Barrier Foil that can withhold the high temperature. When you nailing the tongue and groove, you start from the bottom with the tongue going up. The reason for that is, if you have any moisture it will drip down, will not stay in the groove. And you should have installed the vent out, so you have more oxygen. Next time you use the sauna try to lay down on the bench and wear the hat to keep your head cool, that way you can stay in the sauna longer without overheating your head. I build saunas for living.
Do you have any experience or advice on building a barrel sauna from scratch for outdoor use? Hoping to build one for my backyard in Portland OR very soon if I can get the cedar boards, heater and other supplies for ~$3k. Any advice is greatly appreciated!
Very informative video! Question for BSaunas USA: Is there any point to the bubbles in that wrap? The foil makes sense. In my landlording practice I once had to cook a room (to get rid of bed bugs) with hot air and it warped vinyl blinds and anything plastic and that was probably 180 degrees. So yes the plastic bubble in the wrap may definitely melt - so a regular heat rated foil may do the trick. I saw a video of someone using only 6mil plastic. If the heat gets past the wood then the plastic may melt - so I think foil is a better option.
Hey thanks for the concern, i didnt use a vapor barrior(since there isnt really any moisture) just a heat shield and it is rated high temp. I started the toung and grove from the top to have a full and even line at the top were it is visable and put the cut at the bottom of the wall. since it is a dry sauna i wasnt worried about moisture build up. Used it almost daily for a couple months now and havent seen so much a drop of water roll down any of the walls!
would you insulate the floor and create drainage?
Thanks for the info
Glad I clicked on this video. I checked out the link for your heater to see the price which is $1,024. Then I scrolled down the Amazon page and noticed that Vevor offers one that size for only $210. I just bought a pottery wheel from Vevor a couple of months ago & have been very pleased with it.
This looks like a nice simple DIY project.
Great built Pat. I would add an exhaust fan in the sauna and shave an inch or two from the door downside part for fresh air circulation. It keeps the sauna fresh and helps to avoid a 'suffocating feeling when it is hot'. Even better to put a relay on it and make it circulate every 3 to 5 mins.
Fahad Ahmed hey! Thanks, we do have a 2” gap at the bottom of the door that works great for us!
I've seen alot of DIY saunas on youtube in preparation to make my own, this is by far my favorite and what I will be designing mine after
awesome! we are glad it is helpful!
When I see the word "sauna", I click! Cheers from Finland!
thanks! and back at you!!
Cheers!
Now, if only people could pronounce it properly!!!!
Very well done. Love the no BS breakdown/how to. Very professional. Thank you!!!
I can't say this enough, Pat is amazing! And saunas are such a wonderful thing, glad those are good for you because they feel incredible.
well thank you!! we are def enjoying it!
Thank you for watching!
watched this again, now that i'm in my new house. We are definitely building this in our basement, thanks to you. Appreciate the video.
hey, i saw that you said that the moisture doesn't build up and that's why you don't have a vent, but it's actually not true! the moisture does build up even though there isn't steam inside so i sincerely suggest that you add a vent! it will not only help with the air moisture levels but it will actually also help heating up the sauna evenly through out the room and it makes the experience a lot better!
Hey! actually learded about that through all the comments and did end up adding a vent! thanks
Awesome Sauna man...Cedar is actually used because it does not mold and has natural antibacterial properties.... Nice build....
Thanks!
We need a Pat "How-To" DIY Channel!
Yes we do!!!
@@Kristi-Eramo-OConnell any idea how much would cost for building a steam room that has capacity of 5 or 6 people 🤔?
Most important part of any sauna is venting....fresh air in (behind the stove) and humid sweaty air out (opposite side of stove), also windows are really nice in a sauna
This is really nice and spacious. Spent a few years in Russia and Asia, so I’m a huge sauna fan.
heck ya!! thanks!
Great idea. We bought a secondhand sauna and put it right next to our gym in the basement. We only use the infrared lamps. Insulation-wise (temp. in the basement...) we don't use the heater for the Finnish sauna. It uses 3 phase current which we don't have and that would mean that the temp won't rise enough.
That is interesting, we thought about an infrared! Thanks for watching!
Nice video. Really helpful. I've been quite interested about something specific. I see a lot of people in sauna builds using that thermal barrier, and of course fiberglass, sometimes OSB sheathing. With all those synthetic materials, and the amount of heat and humidity in the sauna, do you ever smell the materials or pick up any offgassing? I would suck to be enjoying your new cedar sauna and then start smelling your thermal barrier plastic.
no, we havent had any smells or issues of any kind !!
Good job! I am in the process of building it my self as well. I didn't see if you made a ventilation or air intake for your sauna. If you don't have it, I would highly recommend it. Fresh air intake would allow you to breath much easier.
DydyaRusya hey! That is awesome, an I put a 2” gap in the bottom of the door that works great!
I just bought a house and am thinking about DIY a Sauna room. But I was a bit discouraged by the worry of not being able to pull it off. Your video is super helpful and I am going to go for it! Thanks a lot for your great elaboration!
Did you do it?
This is great! Researching saunas and was happy to see this. Thank you for your consistent, well thought out & presented factual content. 🙏🔥 Happy saunaing!
thanks!!
This is GREAT ! building the quarantine paradise
haha trying to!!
Excellent, please keep us posted. Thanks!
HI Patrick-nice work on the sauna. How did you do the floor? Also, how has the heater been working these past 3 years? Thanks for the input.
FYI - wood typically does NOT expand in length with the grain. Wood only expands in width across the grain. The tongue and groove will take up that expansion.
why didn't you tape all the seams of the vapor barrier?? won't you have off gassing of your insulation now?
Didn’t realize I needed this till I saw the video.
haha I didn't realize I needed this until he built it....
haha highly recomend it!!
This reduces a heart attack by 50 %
Hi Pat,
Nice build. You may consider adding some venting to prevent mold build up in the framing
High Intensity Health hey! We have a 2” gap at the bottom of the door to let fresh air in. But being a dry sauna, and not a steam room it’s just hot air and we don’t get any moisture build up!
@@Highintensityhealth thats interesting, i might re thinkg adding a vent. thanks for sharing.
@@patrickoconnell2380 most people sweat in the sauna
@Maximiliano Stephen why would you do that
I was thinking the same thing how would you prevent mould in it? And how would you create a vent in the basement? just connect it outside you mean and wouldnt the heat escape?
Nice build. BUT.... Important point here, make sure you have a proper intake and outtake for air. Air ventilation in sauna is very important. The best saunas are traditionally build in Finland and they have a very comprehensive code/ standard on how and where to place ventilation. I would highly recommend following that code for anyone who is building a sauna at home.
Hey! thanks for the imput. I did put a 2'' gap at the bottom of the floor for intake and have been on the fence for adding a upper vent though it isnt requierd code here.
shush
Where can I find the code for air intake and out put. Placement etc.
Hello Patrick, It's really cool and nice build. You leave the concrete flooring right. Do you recommend to have an exhaust fan?
Thank you! We are adding one to our new build!! We were thinking steam room but mold and (my) breathing issues convinced us to go with a dry sauna. Thanks again!!
we love ours!!
Thanks Pat. You’re a star ⭐️
ha thanks!!
First time seeing you , looking to build a sauna!!!
The clip of Kristie? .. workin it.. Is how I envision my PT!! In my head.. that's ME!
I love it..
HI Patrick, Never mind that earlier question about floor. I watched your 2 year update, and you answered it. Good Luck
Patrick really inspires me to continue my handy man journey.....
sometimes you just have to jump in and figure it out!
Get after it!
I loved Pat's transition from storage room to sauna, haha :D
haha thanks!!
Thanks for watching!
DEFINITELY ADDING THIS TO MY FUTURE HOUSE!! Good thing I have my stepdad who is basically like Pat. Between you two, I'm sure I can learn a LOT and build a SWEET crib with all the goodies in it! lol
Thanks again you guys!! Can't wait for more DIY Projects!! Adding this one to the list!!
So cool!! You guys are so crafty😊 really good price too! Looks fancy but was affordable 🙂 thanks for the breakdown, it made it really easy to visualize the process
Thank you for watching :) I am not so crafty, I just supervise haha
@@Kristi-Eramo-OConnell lol 😅 same! My husband was building a plant box in the summer and I was like: I'll help pour the soil🤣
Looks awesome!! Pat is the man. I would definitely be interested if you guys do a video on sauna health benefits
We are going to!! We have been trying to make a point to get in every day and are tracking how we feel! We will keep you posted!!
Would you recommend using closed cell spray foam before placing the fiberglass insulation to add a more insulated value?
well, that stuff works excellent the only downside i see is that its pretty expensive, but im sure it would def help!
Nice video and thank your for the step-by-step process. One question: don’t you need a vapor barrier for the “infusion“. Because of the damp air the insulation could gather water and could get moldy. If you have other Information, please let me know! Thank you and greetings from Germany ✌️
Hey ! there is very little moisture, no moisture if you dont sprits the rocks every now and then but the cedar paneling is so dry it absorbs any of the moisture and slowly climatizes back as the sauna cools. We have had 0 moisture build up anywehre!
Great video! QUESTION... Now that it's been close to a year with your bneautifully built sauna, do you deal with and heat causing mold or condensation inside the frame or outside the room of the sauna? I LOVE what you guys did!!
thanks! and no, not at all. the cedar is a dry wood and we have zero moisture issues anywhere and use it at least a few times a week!
@@Kristi-Eramo-OConnell THAT'S GREAT!! I'm so inspired! Thanks for the reply!!!!
I like how Pat keeps saying we ! It looks neat !
hahah thanks!
Great build, looks fantastic. 3 questions... What about adding a few inches of space with the exterior walls. Any appropriate sealer on the concrete walls? Finally what about the flooring? Did you just go with the naked concrete? As I'm no expert, someone should come in and comment. Cheers and thank you.
We need to rename this series: what can’t Pat do?
The sauna looks great!
hahah thanks!!
HAHA agreed. What else do you wanna see ;)
Nice project. Just one question: how do you take care of moisture accumulation? Do you have any kind of ventilation system integrated? I am concerned about the hot, steam vapour that eventually condensates into water once the sauna has cooled down after use. Would be great to hear from you.
hey! It is really just hot air so there really isnt anything to vent. Even pouring water onto the sauna to heat it up doesnt produce enough steam not worry about. There is a 2" gap at the bottom of the door to let fresh air in, but thats it!
This is exactly what I want and need. You guys did an incredible job.
thanks! highley recommend it!
Super Awesome video!! 👏👏👏Thank you So much for the step process walk through as well as the, Real Feel, into what make a Sauna happen..
Wood expands and contracts across it's width primarily and thickness. Lengthwise it is so minimal that you can cut the boards tight to the corner. Your expansion room should only be at the base and tops of the walls as well as the ceiling corners that run parallel with the boards.
hey, wood does shrink and expand and def never want to make lengthwise cuts tight, wood flooring is more comon and every real wood flooring will have spicific instructions not to do so.
Hi Pat, loved your video and starting to make my own home sauna because of it- thanks for the inspiration! I’ve tried to find the sauna door you mentioned through Menards but the cheapest I can find is $450 and every other site start at $800-1000. Can you share a link for the door or give any other recommendations? Thanks again for making and sharing this video- super helpful!
Expert here
1. Air intakes are mandatory, otherwise the sauna will become too dry and no one will enjoy it. Air intakes are also important for drying the sauna afterwards.
2. ALWAYS throw water on the stove in the sauna, otherwise there is no idea to be in the sauna.
3. If possible, then a window out of the sauna will increase the comfort of the sauna.
Nice build! You could also build a shed in garden, insulate it, clad inside with cedar, if you didn’t have room in your house.
I just need a "PAT", awesome job, you make it look so easy.
that intro though. 5 star
GREAT JOB WHERE DID YOU ORDER YOUR DOOR?
Kristie is so lucky to have a husband that is so knowledgeable in so much ! Great job Pat!!
haha ill make sure she see this 😂
You the man Pat. Your videos are great! Keep it up brotha
thanks man!
Thanks for watching!
@@Kristi-Eramo-OConnell I’ve been watching your stuff for more than a year now. One of my go to spots for workout ideas! Love the rehab content too.
Just an FYI... I am a Finlander and want to say that 'sauna' is pronounced 'Sow-na" :) it is the only Finnish word in the English dictionary. Not many people say it correctly!!! This looks like a great sauna!! THANKS!!
Thank you 😊! And thanks for watching !
I would use some Heat Shield tape to really makes the room airtight and not let out the heat instead of just leaving thoose gaps in the heat barrier
Agree but the tongue and groove cedar really insulated and cuts heat loss
Might have missed it but what did you do with the floor? Is there a layer of the insulation under there as well?
Hey! It’s a concrete floor with a laminate floor and a rubber mat on top. Has work great so far for us!
Hi guys! What a great video! Thank you for sharing. What temperature can the heater get the room up to?
Have you replaced the sump pump line so your basement no longer floods ? Typically those lines are not buried they discharge water from a sump pit into the yard
ya, i had to dig it up, ours runs all the way out to the street and it had tree roots smash it all the way by the street. Huge pain in the butt !
Looks great!! Just curious, what did you use for flooring?? Cedar as well??
We left our regular flooring down! Pat can tell us what it is....
We have a laminate flooring with a rubber rug over top of it that seems to be working just fine. It really doesnt get very hot at ground level.
Thanks bro gonna build a business for this, got land and now saw this video.
Great video, Patrick should have his own diy channel
I TOTALLY AGREE!! I have been trying to tell him this!
I don't recommend fiberglass in a basement. It can allow mold growth. Always use mineral wool insulation where moisture can collect. Also you didn't tape the Vapor barrier joints. I would recommend doing that.
Definitely helpful information.
I was debating between ugly box or
Just Do It.
Thanks a lot, looking forward for more videos.
Now I can peacefully sleep since that tree is down. 😀😊🤣
First video I've watched since I've embarked on my journey to turn one of our small outbuildings into a sauna. Thanks for this! Very detailed. Once thing I wasn't sure of was hardware. Are you using decking screws for the benches? I assume it won't matter much as these mostly stay dry, but I'm hoping to add more of a steam element to ours (adding more water). Also, I think the cedar is going to be the expensive piece for us also. The out building is rather large. Thank you for this video!
what about the floor. wood or tile? I want water to drain through the floor.
Hey! its a concrete base with a laminate floor that runs all through the rest of our basement with a large rubber mat to catch sweat!
Pat,
Quick Q.... Id love to build my own. Ive got the space to do it but I know how this goes with materials expenses because ive been here before time and time again.... Post-Covid Cedar is absurdly high! What do you think about buying an older, well insulated higher quality infrared sauna...Maybe even one that has broken and putting a new heating unit like yours in it ? What would you reservation be ?
hey! I cant say for sure but i dont think that an infrared suana would hold up to the tempatures of a tradetional sauna. I would suggest waiting out the prices as they cant stay this hight for ever!
Great job! We are thinking about having one built in our house, wanted to know how do you manage the humidity inside the house, is internal hot sauna not causing any damp or mould issues inside the house?
We are planning to have ours between two rooms on ground floor.
Thanks
Khalid Amarkhail hey! I highly recommend it, we use it almost Dailey. Since it is a sauna it is really just hot air. Even putting water over the heater the steam isn’t even noticeable. Sweat is more something to plan for ! !
Everything is excellent! The only thing from experience that I would recommend is to remove the paper face from the fiberglass insulation, if even a little steam gets there, you will be growing mold on the paper surface. Other than that, the build is excellent!
Great job with this video. Meat and potatoes, no filler
Hi I have a question. Did you treat the wood? I hear it needs to be treated painted or something. Another question, did you prepare the floor? I hear it also needs to be protected. I am asking because I am in the process of doing the samething and wanted to know what you think. I have been told it needs to be done if you want it to last and don't want to damage your structure. Thank You
Pat you always make your projects sound so easy, I am useless at that stuff! Haha!
He is talented!!
Would you suggest to another person building a sauna, to install a floor drain for water/sweat. I’ve heard of others saunas having a mold problem later on down the road. Also, do you think ventilation vents are necessary? Btw you have some serious skills lol
hey! thank you! and i still might put a floor drain in, right now we just have a rubber mat that covers the floor and does plenty good. Cedar does a good job resting mold and we have about a 2" gap at the bottom of the door to let air in, though an actual vent isnt nessicary! cant recomend building one for your own house enough!
@@patrickoconnell2380 I plan on building one in my non insulated garage. Should I just put a rubber mat over the concrete floor or do you advise a different approach for flooring. I live in Iowa so that concrete floor can get pretty cold in the winter, which I plan on using the sauna year round. Thanks for the response!
@@nickfred6024 I think you should at least put down a rubber mat, that would keep your feet from freezing getting in!
I can't see any ventilation? It's very important to have incoming air somewhere near the heater and air oulet at opposite corner on the ceiling. Otherwise you won't enjoy there as it feels like oxygen runs out. And you have to make sure that whole room is vapor sealed. Greetings from Finland.
And you need to have ventilation gap between heatseal and paneling.
mold will cometh
This is a great video! I have a couple of questions. Did you put in a drain or something in for all the steam that may end up on the floor or some kind of waterproofing? is there any need to wash it out with all that sweat and steam? And is there any need for ventilation or dehumidifying if all that steam goes into the house or not really? Thanks.
This is really well done!
thanks!
Very enjoyable thanks Patrick
Thanks for watching!
Definitely going to do this. Thanks, you made this very doable.
Highly recomend it!
Anyone want a video on how I made a sauna to get to 360 Fahrenheit hot. We built an addition to the garage and made the heater ourselves. The heater is made of a stainless steel clothes dryer drum, smooth river rocks, and 3 heavy duty ceramic heating elements sold for a stove repairs or upgrades.
Awesome work! Please do an update video (time to heat, health benefits etc.) 😀
We can def do that. I have noticed a huge diff in how it makes me feel. I was never a Sauna person but am certainly becoming one
@@Kristi-Eramo-OConnell thankyou. Look forward to it. I’m looking to build or buy one this year hopefully 🙂
@@Kristi-Eramo-OConnell yes please, update video. Would like to see the full finished project. Thanks
What does Pat do for work? He’s so knowledgeable.
mostly fitness related work now, but i have built and remodled alot of houses!!
Would you please provide a link to the door you bought for the sauna? I went to Menards website and could not find it. Also, what brand and size of heater did you buy? Thank you!!
Very cool! Keep up the interesting posts guys!
Thanks!!
Great Content... keep up the good work 💪👷👏👍
Was little surprised that it wasnt Swedish sauna where you cannot throw water. So probs for that! And nice to notice that saunas benefits and getting noticed in crossfit community also.
We love it! We are going to put a video on benefits hopefully soon!
What do you mean "cannot throw water?"
@@clintcarlson5531 in many saunas in sweden they don't have any stones in the stove (usually electric ones) and the resistors (don't know if that's the correct word but you know the metal things that heat up and turn red) are visible from the stove and it's quite common that when that's the case you shouldn't throw water on them
@@kokkidaa Why on earth would anyone NOT put stones in a sauna stove? That makes no sense at all.
Its beautiful work and thank you for sharing, but how did you do with ventilation in and out air!
Thankyou for sharing. This helps me a lot.
I now have a project to do thanks!
Thanks for watching!
Amazing! I’m trying to decide between building a barrel for the backyard or using a space in our basement for a regular (not barrel shaped) sauna. This was helpful. When did you buy the wood? I’m up in Portland OR. Hoping the wood price won’t be too different. Would love to see how hot it gets and how long it takes to heat up to 180-190 ish temps. Thanks, been dreaming of doing this since March 2020!
Hey Thomas, i liven in portland for most of my life. and we are actualy heading to mt batchlor next week to meet some friends. I bought the wood about 6 weeks ago. I orignaly was going to do a barrel as well, and they are cool but i think the room conversion was quite a bit easier and cheaper and more convenient. It takes about 20 to 25 min to get up to about 150/60 and about about 35ish min to get up to 175/180. hope this is helpful, and i cant remomend it enough!!
We love our Sauna!
This is awesome!!!! I need to do this!
Looking very nice! And yes you did announce it correctly. 😃🇫🇮
Very informative and easy to follow. I’m renovating my condo right now and making arrangements for a custom build out myself. My vision is exactly the same as what you guys created. Question, I’m considering adding a shower in mine as well…do you see that as a potential issue? I know it’s excessive but any cause for concern?
Hey Michael, though it is possible i think you would be better off adding it separately. Adding one inside the sauna would make for a very different build from the start. It would have to be build like a steam room to be water tight, insure mold isnt getting any where and that all materials are water resistant.
Put the shower in different room. And dont do the same mistake this guy did on the walls... There are literally no ventilation gap behind the walls! Search "saunan rakentaminen" and you will find real tutorials. There are so many mistakes on this american guys video.
was this build inspired by mr. build it? he did it recently and thought maybe pat was into the who woodworking/diy youtube scene
FYI wood doesn't really expand and contract much lengthwise. It does in the cross grain direction though!
I would recommend of getting in contact of people who have built saunas or live in country where sauna is common, before start building sauna to your house! Sauna room can be easily ruined, or the experience can be bad if not correctly built. Pretty good job anyways for the first sauna build👌
We love our Sauna! It has been the BEST addition to our house!!
Awesome video! Where'd you find the Harvia for that price? Only 8k ones I can find are $1k plus.
Hey! i got it from steamsaunabath.com
Beautiful sauna…thanks for the example and explanation with price.
hi guys, where'd you get your cedar boards?
pat said he got them from "menards'' its kind of like home depot but bigger and with alot more stuff!
Thanks for that info. Ill have to work with what they have at HD or Lowes. Good luck with the Open!! 💪💪
Did u guys use a sealant for cedar?
Nope, it’s just raw cedar
Great video, I had a couple of questions for you. How much did your electricity bill increase? (what is your electrical rate and how often do you use the sauna)? I'm thinking very hard about building one just like your example. Thank you.
Based on average US rate of $0.13/kWh, and since he mentioned his heater is 8kW (33A @ 240V), it should cost around $1.04 per hour of operation. I'd imagine using it 4 or 5 times a week, for an hour or less each time, would add about $20 max to the monthly bill.
@@dbschmidt that is worth the benefits of using a Sauna for sure. thanks.
we use it multiple times per week and havent noticed any real change in our electric bill.
@@Kristi-Eramo-OConnell That's great! I'm in Alaska so I'll have to plan and barge up the stove. I'm hoping to find a good wholesale lumber yard in the Pac NW since the box stores here are still pretty expensive on the cedar.