Canoe Self Rescue on a Lake 2
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- Опубліковано 25 лис 2020
- I need a self rescue method that works for me on open water. A way of me getting back in the canoe if there is no assistance available. So I explore another idea here but it is good for all of us to have a method(s) that we can use with some degree of confidence.
I am getting older and heavier (now in my late sixties). My days of athletically leaping back into a boat are long gone. So I use a counter weight as an aid to getting back in. This can be a loaded rucksack if I am carrying gear or in the first of these videos a water filled dry bad • Canoe Self Rescue on a...
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Odyssey pfd, drysuit and end airbags, by www.nrs.com The bag I am using as a counterweight is the wonderful NRS Expedition DriDuffel
Using some heavy duty side airbags from: / tribalairbags (they do lighter ones as well as end bags)
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Ray, this is too realistic a rescue not the lightest of canoes, not the warmest of lakes and the wind and waves add to the hardship, this is impressive.
Thank you for that appreciation. Yep it felt real
Any one else leaning forward as if it would help Ray in? A great accompanying video to part 1 👌
I can do with all the help that is going so yes to all those leaning forward.😅
I've got his foot on my shoulder
I've got his foot on my shoulder, this man is a royal treasure, 🇬🇧🇬🇧👏👏😀☕
Thanks Ray you should carry more beer I your kit bag for your counter weight. . Great job. 🇨🇦👍
I knew I wasn't doing something right. I will amend my practise immediately 😂
A good variant Ray. Think it offers a great trigger for people to realise that there are many ways this could be approached. Kit choice, boat fixture detail and a practiced technique are the difference between 'inconvenience' (not least some discomfort) and disaster.
Yep too late to practise when it happens for real. Keep well fella
Great techniques to know about. I'm also older, heavier, and less athletic than I once was.
Yep a lot of us know that feeling. Thank for commenting
Everything look so simple until we try. A great technical way to do it , we often shy away to practice rescue until we need it and then things dont look so pretty.... Great job.
I try to do a bit of practise on this every year. Doing it gets harder with age but I am still out there wanting to have those adventures so practise I will. Thank you
Great video! Thank you!👍Cheers from Canada!
Thanks for watching! Your comment is appreciated
The side bags really make a difference in having a dry (ish) boat on rolling upright!
And a lighter more nimble person could get in almost dry. But it works for me which is important. Thanks
Appreciate this self-rescue demonstration - it sure provides a real sense of what it's like to do this in the middle of rather chilly lake and serves as a great reminder to practice (mission accomplished - hope you're feeling a little warmer now) many thanks!
You're very welcome! Yep I thought it was time I showed it in 'real' conditions.
Thanks Ray. I particularly liked that doing this practice made you consider taking almost as much kit as me 😀
Great to hear! Bag now heavier
@@RayGoodwinCanoe you have no idea who I am do you 😀
@@MrMjt888 You mean you are going to carry yet more kit.
I take more kit than both of you. Great video, I going to practice this before I do the great glen.
Thank you for making these awesome videos for the paddling community and sharing your wisdom.
Glad you like them! Getting there gradually.
Thanks so much for posting this!
You are most welcome
Great series Ray. Thank you.
Glad you like them!
I really appreciate you doing this in the wind and waves. I'd heard one of Paul Kirtley's guests say that self rescue wasn't possible in conditions when you're liable to need it, so was skeptical. Thanks again!
At the extreme end of conditions there is a real element of truth in that statement. However many of us have ended up in the water for silly errors when conditions were not that bad. It is good to have a practised system for rescue even in the extreme end of things because I would like to give myself, at least, a fighting chance. Cheers Phil
@@RayGoodwinCanoe Thanks again for the explanation. I'm planning to do this with the local canoe school once the lakes soften up again next spring.
Another good one Ray. Cheers!
Thank you! Cheers!
Thanks for sharing Ray. all the best
Thank you too
Another great little video Ray. The method you illustrate is my ‘go to’ second attempt when unassisted re-entry has failed! Really appreciate the efforts you go to in getting great content out 👍🏻🛶
Thank's Richard. Have you practised this in the rough stuff? My unassisted re-entry is pretty pants nowadays.
@@RayGoodwinCanoe I have done but aim to revisit once lockdown movement eases. I’ve also found that re-entering from the up wind side benefits when ‘swimming’ back into the boat. When opportunity presents, I’m going to practice/explore deep water re-entry with a sailing rig in situ. This also prompts the debate on whether to tether when solo sailing in bigger weather to mitigate separation from the canoe in the event of falling overboard. Loads of stuff to explore and refine!
Such a sweet video! I've gotta practice this sometime. Thanks!
You should! Have fun (or at least an interesting time). cheers
great stuff Ray
Thank you
Another great helpful video Ray, thank you.
You are most welcome
Thanks for the book Ray. It arrived yesterday!
@@oddmanout98 Good stuff. I hope you find it useful and enjoy it. Thanks
👍👍Cheers Ray👍👍✌👌🙏😁
Thank you
Thank you very much for making this video. I found it helpful. Bill Mason in one of his books suggests fastening a 6 ft length of floating rope to the yoke near the hull. In the event of capsize the loose end can be tossed over the hull, then pulled on to help right the canoe
With a laden boat I do similar but using the rescue tape I carry in my ba/pfd. Good tip
Great videos, thanks.
I notice that your kit-bag had positive buoyancy. In such cases might it be better to use it as a float to assist entry rather than a weight. Perhaps by using the tether as a stirrup?
I guess it might be worth trying... on a warm day :-)
Cheers.
Good point! A friend has been experimenting with this and has come up with a simple but extremely effective way of using that positive buoyancy. I will do a video on it v soon as it wasn't what/how I have experimented in the past. Works so well. Yep water is relatively warm at present to need to get on with it and experiment.
Thanks for your great videos and your book. in the book you briefly mention the use of the pole and a paddle float as a balance. You never use it in videos, so isn't it so convenient to use?
Thanks for your comment on book and videos, it is appreciated. Re pole and paddle float: I tend not to use of practise this now but use one of the counterweight methods shown in the video. I don't always have a pole to hand or it is in use as the sail. Hope that helps.
the king !
Or a minor prince? Anyway thank you.
@@RayGoodwinCanoe hahaha
Ray, I paddle a closed kayak and I use a simple line with a loop on the end suspended over the side that allows me, in conjunction with a paddle float, to reenter very easily. I place my foot in the loop and hoist myself up and in my kayak (I'm a big guy) and found this works 100% of the time with minimal effort. Would this work for a canoe, perhaps in conjunction with a kit bag you demo'd in this video? I've learned a lot from your videos--thanks for taking the time and braving cold water! Dave
Yep I have used and advocated that method in sea kayaks. Trouble is the paddle is a lot shorter in a canoe so doesn't really work. thanks though all ideas are useful.
Watching this again Ray, need to learn self rescue before anything else me thinks, 🤔, hope you and your family are doing well, hug to Billy, sorry I don't do PayPal, can you bring book to Windermere in May for £ash, take care 😷😷☕
Nige.
Books will be with me. See you at Windermere.
You ever try an inflatable kayak/canoe hybrid such as a sea eagle fast track or explorer? Wondering what advantage a canoe like yours has over one of those.
Also, if you find yourself in rather extreme conditions, like heavy winds that came out of nowhere, I find it useful to attach myself to the vessel with a rope (attached to d ring on boat and clipped via carribeaner onto my belt).
Hi, I have used inflatables on white water many years ago. Had a great deal of fun but the performance was nowhere near as good as a kayak designed for rivers. To an extent I think it is personal choice. I love the skill necessary with the canoe and I am in Canada every year expeditioning on routes that have been used by canoe for thousands of years. Generally I think a specialist canoe or kayak is faster.
yep I have considered the same re strong winds and using a connection. Will give it a try again.
Another great demonstration. Do you think there is a 'rule of thumb' ratio to go by for the weight of kit bag/water-filled bag compared to paddler weight for the method of rescue to be effective? (i.e. If a paddler weights 105 lbs they'ed need to hang a counter-weight of 50 lbs off the other side.) Thanks again for a great real-world demo. Worth its weight in gold. Excuse the pun!
Sorry no rule of thumb. It is so dependent on the characteristics of the make of boat and the agility of the paddler. Lots of folk I know can get in without the counterweight. Me I need a reasonable weight. So, I am afraid, the only thing to do is to play with it yourself and find what works for you.
I’m loving these Ray it’s making me feel a lot more confident about attempting and practicing a self rescue. Your duffle bag is that the roll top or the expedition zip version?
The Zip version. Remember I am sponsored by NRS so I get to try this stuff out but it is a seriously good bit of kit.
Thanks Ray I have sent you a message about next year for Hugh and myself ?
Thanks for video. I noticed you’re not using your carabiners from endlessriver shop, any particular reason? For self rescue purpuse I should go with a Large Paddle Karabiner? Is it ment to be attached on paddle shaft?, it’s all so confusing..
Hi Kris, I have several climbing shops close to me and so it is easy to pop in and get any karabiners I need. I generally buy the large HMS screwgates so can use for a multitude of purposed. I do not use the ability to attach to a paddle shaft: this was largely meant for kayakers who are rescuing someone else's paddle. In a canoe you can just pick it up and put it in your own boat. Swimming I do not want to be attached to a paddle. Hope that helps
@@RayGoodwinCanoe I understand now. If paddle is floating away in water that specific carabiner can be used to attach on on paddle and together with rope can be pulled back in boat. I use paddle leash/cable anyway, that is attached to paddle and boat.. Thank you
Ray. hats off, what is the suit you are wearing by the way?
hi, its a NRS dry suit: NRS Men's - Although its advertised as a semi dry because of the neoprene rather than latex neck seal. I have found it keeps me perfectly dry anyway.
Without being rude it's good to see a non-athletic young coach just leaping back into the boat which can be off-putting!!
I know what you mean. Yep if I can do it so can others.
Now I'm confused Ray,
Not done any canoeing, so been watching you a lot, question, when tieing in my kit for paddling solo, do you recommend I keep some kit secured loosely, just in case I take a dip?
Hope you are all well.
Nige.
Sorry to confuse and I am planning a video on how to carry kit. The answer unfortunately is depends. So if you are going solo on a lake I would have one piece of heavy kit or practise the alternative dry bag filled with water solution. The rest of the kit I generally tie in when heavily laden so that it provides extra floatation and doesn't become an unholy mess of leashes and the like in a swim. Hope that helps for the time being.
@@RayGoodwinCanoe love you Ray, I know it was a strange question, I've seen the first one which was all good and spot on for the solo, it was this second one that fuddled me, if my notes are right, rivers tie in, open water let loose?? I'm sure I'm to old for this ☕☕😂
@@nigelgregory4777 On rivers I normally tie in if I have more than one bag. On open water I will tie the bulk in but have one heavier bag loose (on a leash) for assistance in self rescue.
Thanks again Ray, loving the rescue series, would both Self rescues shown so far be viable with a full expedition load?