Video on Vinyl (and Other Forgotten Video Tech)
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- Опубліковано 18 вер 2024
- Yep, hipsters would love it. You used to be able to get movies on vinyl. That, and other technology which was kinda shite so went away, all featured in todays video. BUT ALSO, what you have all been waiting for: the zebra mask is finally here. I filmed this video like a month ago, so hence the delay. Enjoy.
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Wooo I recommended this, because no one knows what these are, and I get a kick out of pulling out Starwars contained in a giant 13 inch square cartridge and showing it to people.
Video quality ranges from "about a VHS tape" to "a little better than a 50 mile away TV station on bent rabbit ears." The real issue is when the stylus wears out, or the silicon layer starts to wear... You'll get skipping, and a shotgun of garbled frame skipping back and forth over a scene.
I inadvertantly got a massive collection of these from a co-worker. His father 'had a bunch, and didn't want them anymore,' and said you can have them if you want. I'm glad I brought my truck, as 'a bunch' was about 800 discs, an a half dozen players. Since each disc weighs a pound and a half, I found myself on top of 3/4 of a ton of old movies, most of which no one has ever heard of, all displayed in glorious 240 lines of analog joy.
I believe you can use a dry silicon spray on the discs
I did the same thing $200 for 800 movies and several players in a Honda accord, the car was almost touching the ground
I’m so glad that I found this channel. Don’t get me wrong I absolutely love all your channels, but your personality and humour really shine through on this one and it’s just absolutely fantastic. Cheers from Australia!
Yeah Simon seems so laid back in this channel it's hilarious
Thanks :)
I haven't laughed as hard as this in a long time. I watch The Lion King 3 times in theater. It was awesome. We didn't get a DVD player until I think probably like 2,000 but anyways Funny video.
I would like to know how much 17 lb is in American money.
@@jonthornton8758 type "17 GBP to USD" into Google, and it will tell you.
YOU ACTUALLY GOT THE MASK, YOU ABSOLUTE MAD LAD!
What an absolute legend! *smack*
Best. Episode. Ever.
I still use CDs, I like the physical media, it feels good to touch the things that are mine
Was curious when we'd see the mask
Same
I just had the realization that CDs are "compact discs" compared to the absolute unit that the Laserdisc was.
Also, the Laserdisc was originally named Discovision (disc-o-vision)
Laserdisc: An Absolute Unit
And an early term for the CD was the compact laser disc. I had a manual around here somewhere that used the term. I'll have to try and find it.
I like this version of Simon with his hair down. Oh, wait...🤭
BA DA BOOM BOOM TSSSHSSHHSH
The sheer amount of sexual innuendo in old tech lingo is staggering
I LOVE that you actually wore the zebra mask! You, sir, are a gentleman and a scholar. Warmest regards, a fellow Brit.
As one of the employees of the "mighty RCA Corporation" in the 1980s, I can tell you that one big driver of the CED format was that the discs could be pressed on the machines already used for LP records. Unfortunately, VHS VCRs dropped so quickly in price at about that time ($2000 to less than $150), RCA couldn't get anywhere making a profit on the Selectavision players. Agreed, they were late to the party, but I doubt they could have made a go of it anyway. Another failure for "the most trusted name in electronics".
I don't remember my first VCR, but I remember my best and most favorite one was a Mitsubishi with 4 heads and auto tracking!
I still have it, but it doesn't work because the rubber bands in it have dry-rotted. I got it on sale in 1988 for about $350.
If you arent failing, you arent tryinghard enough
@@joshmayne2853 Fair enough, but if the fails wind up running the company into the ground, you may be doing something wrong.
That's super interesting, I love my Ced collection. I heard the CEO didn't think people would enjoy movies at home so he put it on hold.
Digital music and media is great, but I'm old and I miss cover art and browsing at a store before copying my friends' discs/tapes.
True.
If you want to know more about this, I would recommend going to Technology Connections who did a really in depth series of videos on this.
… and I've watched them all.
Techmoan also covered this, but Technology Connections went into way more detail.
And his final video on the subject isn't even out yet.
Technology Connections and Techmoan are the best channels for this type of stuff
I love Technology Connections. 😁
You're the man and thats integrity you wore the mask as you promised.
Always.
That isn't the correct Zebra mask! It was supposed to be the "Sexy time Zebra mask".
True
Lol well it was ordered online, crapshoot if it’ll look like advertised
Yeah Simon what the fuck?! Blame Danny
They have under estimated the power of the owo culture. Assemble my otter cult, we shall crack their skulls on our tummies. Gimp zebra mask or death!
Definitely not. It was always the non super weird one!!
Hmm, just watched TIFO with a Dollar Shave Club ad, now I watch this and Simon has cut himself shaving, after selling an injury-free shaving setup, yeah, feeling the irony there!!! :P
It's true... Even the best will sometimes betray you.
I grew up with reel-to-reel, vinyl, 8-track, and cassettes. I got my very first CD in 1993 when I turned 14. Five years later, in 1998, I downloaded my first .mp3. Being a Gen X meant I got to see everything, I guess. Now I use Spotify, which I listen to while watching Simon in his zebra mask. Because I'm an OG subscriber.
I was born in 1962, so I've also lived through all these different technologies.
I still have my grandfather's reel-to-reel player and the reels he recorded of my mother and my sisters and I when we were little ones. I feel like I am one of the keepers of our family's history, along with one of my other sisters who has over 200 of those round slide cartridges that hold the slides, along with the slide projector and screen. 😀
@@Terri_MacKay I came along 4 years later than you, but I still (in some container somewhere) still have some reel-to-reel movies of our family events from way back when I was little. I also lived through the whole growth of the music and movie industries, too. 😄 Amazing where we are, after where we were just a few decades ago!
@@MaryAnnNytowl Oh, yes, the home movies. Was there anything more excruciatingly boring than being invited to someone else's house to watch their home movies??? 😂😂
And, yes, it's crazy to think of how far technology has come, from the days of our old black rotary phones. I watched the 1969 moon landing...an amazing feat of human engineering and computing. There is more computing power in a smartphone than there was in the computers that got the astronauts to the moon and back. Amazing!!
The "Golden Records" on the Voyager probes have the ability to play video, which is dope
The u.s Congress has a huge collection of the c.e.d disks and have
I love the editing in this video. Effing *hilarious*.
New video suggestion: As everything "Simon Whistler on UA-cam" is technically a business, how about a compilation video from your other channels? Theme- "How to successfully edit bloopers and gags from your UA-cam videos." Sounds perfect for the fun y'all are clearly having here on BB.
A Blooper Reel! (I may post this more than once)
Haha, I'm really not an editing wizz of any kind... I just tend to cut things that are boring, and make everything very tight. That seems to work quite well :)
@@brainblaze6526 the editing on VP is kinda jarring. So many loud obnoxious voiceovers as well
I love the content and will watch it regardless but yeah editing could be smoother for VP
I've said it before, BB is my favorite Simon channel. Even topics I don't care about, I enjoy. He would be a blast to chill with.
Also, who keeps sneaking He-Man in there? Y'all are gonna make me pee.
That's Sam :D
"weird zebra sex mask" is simon and danny's band name
when's the first album coming out?
@@williamclarke8732
Once the quarantine lifts, "Zebra Mask Replica" will be released.
Will Simon let Danny out of the basement do they can go on tour?
Sam has to be the drummer.
@@14gears55 thanks now I know that was already a thing 4 months ago. Trying to find when it stated 😂
It was easy to tell the Beta Max owners at Blockbuster, they would gather around one tiny display rack and complain about paying one thousand dollars for a digital clock.
Ouch!!! 😅🤣😅
Gotta love how the business channel is the least professional lmao
"Who watches a film like, 500x?"
Obviously Simon has no experience with children...
Exactly what I thought.... 500x is about the first week for Shrek, Nemo, Frozen...
I guess his kid was born around the time of recording 🤣. Probably while he was recording no time to go to the hospital 😉
@@stephjovi I think Anna was about 2 months old at this point. Simon still has a little time before he knows the pain. Totally not stalking the Whistlers. Allegedly. 😏
This episode of *Business Blaze* was *NOT* sponsored by:
*Zebra Enthusiast Inc.:* "We make crappy rubber masks that impair your vision and cause excessive sweating. Enjoy!"
Yeah, the mask is largely useless for anything other than a gimmick.
@@brainblaze6526 I'd wear it to a shop that demands masks just to take the piss, though 🤣
Technology Connections did a couple of great videos on this and laserdisc.
So glad "Dollar Shave Club" isn't sponsoring this vid...
LMAO OMG!!!
Irony.
As someone who is a fan of Yu-Gi-Oh, it was kind of funny imagining Warner, Sony, Universal, and EMI coming together to create what I heard as a "Duel Disk".
I've watched a movie on one of those! You had to flip the disk half way through. Wild stuff.
Hm, my First CD-ROM was TEAC, and I bought a ton of CD an DVD of their brand, they are still around actually, according to Wikipedia they were bought out by Gibson but in 2018 after Gibson went belly up continued as a own brand again (the more you know...)
My first CDROM was a TEAC aswell. Remember when it was all about the x-speed ? (x4,x6,x8...) oh man
Question from the US: is TEAC pronounced “teak” or “Tee-Yak?” Thought it was the latter
I worked the front desk at a motel in 1981-3. We rented vinyl record movies. The 12" record would be in a plastic case, kind of like an album cover with the movie info on it. You would insert the entire case into the player (about the size of a VHS player.) The case would be ejected, leaving the record inside. At the end of the movie, the case was re-inserted and the record came out with it. The user would never touch the record itself or the needle which played it. It worked pretty well.
12:50 Under British law, I believe this would fall under "Back up copy", which was perfectly legal. Now if you gave or sold that copy to somebody else, that's Piracy and Illegal.
I'm fairly sure it is still in British law that entitles you to make your own backup copy of pretty much any media you have a licence for. This technically makes DRM and other anti-piracy measures Illegal, as they prevent you from being able to perform your legal right of making a backup copy.
I remember dubbing tapes. When I first started driving, my parents would let me use their vehicles that didn't have CD players. I'd dub my CDs to one of two tapes I would keep in the car. For the sake of variety, I'd only have the first 30-45 minutes of an album on one side and another band/group on the other. Being a teenager in the 90s was an experience.
5 or so years ago, I gave my best friend a record player (late 80’s to the early 90’s, not sure it’s year anymore), and a dozen records. Including an original Yellow Submarine we found in the 65 milk crates of records we had... (yes... 65 milk crates... they took up a quarter of our tiny basement, floor to ceiling.)
She still uses it to this day, and her 10 month old LOVES it when she puts it on. Still the best gifts she says she’s gotten from a friend lol
Simon you just became my idol 😂😂😂
Legend.
@@brainblaze6526 absolute legend.
absolute turbo mega clutch legend
I used to record my CD's onto cassette. Music on the go. Cars would scratch the CD
Same. And early CD players in cars would skip like crazy in the winter until the car warmed up. I remember it while driving to school as a kid in my dads Saab which he'd added a CD player to.
You should try the car record players, the few that existed anyway. It went about as well as one would expect.
CD players for cars were stupid expensive but most came with AM/FM/cassette.
Techmoan and Technology Connections both do really good videos about ced. Check them out
Did Technology Connections ever finish his miniseries on CED?
… Annnd I've watched them all.
Lesser known but still a great UA-camr, Oddity Archive also covered them a few separate times.
4:25 Kuh-pah-si-tance. Capacitance.
Also, the reason Vinyl is making a comeback is because it's uncompressed, and for recordings originally made on analog equipment, it provides the best sound. That said, I don't know how much of a difference you can hear between a record and a properly formatted file, and vinyl of music recorded on digital equipment IS pointless.
Capacitaoksdfok
I'm surprised it didn't come out as "kap.. Kapa.. Kapuh.. Ah who cares"
Yay, Sam got into the credits finally!
Also, I would love to see Simon go into the story of Blockbuster and Netflix basically blind. There's so much room for snark and "wtf" moments in that story, the tangents would be awesome.
ohhh yeah, man- this shit is crazy! Technology Connections did a great mini-series on this subject, but im still a bit hazy on how it works. the topic itself blew me away as id previously heard *absolutely nothing* about vinyl video media. thanks, as always, Simon & Co! 💙
13:05 TEAC are the parent company of Tascam, who are still going strong in the home recording business. Anyone who created a homemade multi-track demo tape in the 90s or 00's, likely did it on some type of Tascam recorder.
They really were the go-to name, before digital interfaces and programs like Garage Band and Logic Pro became an affordable and quality alternative to a massive ProTools rig.
I remember recording on my tascam 4 track. It's how every great demo was made!
And it's pronounced tee-ack. They also were one of the biggest names in reel-to-reel (a.k.a. open reel) tape recorders. But obviously much before Simon's time.
My family had a RCA Video Disk player when I was kid! I remember having to flip them over, it wasn't that big of a deal, but it was kind of amazing, I remember seeing Indiana Jones and star wars on it.
Race for Your Life Charlie Brown is the one where I believe they're at summer camp and they're in the boat race boys versus girls I think
Yes and Snoopy drives Peter Fonda's motorcycle from easy rider
Simon, I'm cleaning my floors while listening to business blaze and drinking. I want you to know that this is my favorite of your channels. Now my weird suggestion. Do some sort of business blaze about cleaning products. I don't care what it is.
Hey now, this was a great and very funny episode! Thanks Simon and Danny for another awesome show that’s always worth the wait. I have to say that bit about who would watch a movie 500 times or more, at 7:35 to 7:56. Oh man, too funny and possibly one of the best lightbulb moments you’ve had on the show so far. Was greatly funny man. Keep up all the excellent work and take care.
Always a good laugh. Loving these videos. And btw,if you own something,you are allowed to make personal copies,thats what we all did with records,put them on tape. Laserdiscs were putting out movies until like the 2000s. Many of those old formats are used in third world countries still,hence why the sales.
I bought a stereo in the early 1980's. On the cassette part, it had a slide switch. Cassette-Normal or Metal. I was told by an audiophile that I knew that the Metal Cassette had superior sound. I finally found one and bought it. It did have superior sound. I had the normal cassette and then the Metal Cassette. I cannot recall the name of the album or artist. Too long ago.
Reel to reel would be like if you took the casing off a cassette, you just had the spools and the ribbon, just bigger.
BTW, looking sexy in that mask 😂😂😂😂
I still have some records from my younger years. The original Hotel California is downstairs.
😂 The zebra mask 🦓
It's crazy how fragile discs used to be. When my copy of Doom Eternal arrived, the disc wasn't tabbed in. It had probably bounced around the case all throughout the shipping process, but when I put it in, it worked perfectly and I was able to complete the game without issue. Contrast that to the 80s when you had floppy discs that were instantly destroyed if you touched that one exposed part. It's amazing how modern Blu-ray discs not only hold far more data than past formats but are also infinitely more durable.
That stutter at the end "i was like um" gave me Ellis Lanksder vibes! You absolute legend, thank you for bringing back that epic and long lost memory^^
Been going back through every video in chronological order. Very entertaining to watch the channel evolve
"Razor cut my head REALLY BAD!!"
*THIS Episode is(n't) brought to YOU by **_"DOLLAR SHAVE CLUB"!!!_*
I see Danny’s a man of culture: he’s been watching Techmoan 🧐
Yes!!! The 🦓 mask!! Thank you for the best way to end a long week!
Simon's all like ...she drives me crazy ...and I can't help myself....lol🤣🤣🤣[fine young cannibals]
Race For Your Life was one of my favorite movies when i was a child.
Because one can only obtain MP3 music through legal channels, allegedly.
We had a Selectavision, and we played some of those movies over and over for years. I was a kid, but I never noticed any degradation in playback, that's news to me. I played Rocky, The Bugs Bunny Road Runner Movie, and Airplane too many times to even guess. My mom watched Dragonslayer a couple of times a week for EVER, it was her all time favorite movie, she was weird.
VCR's were similarly expensive at 1st at well over $1.000,00. The price dropped fairly quickly and the VHS tapes grew in length past the 30-minute limit. Reel to reel was a system that used magnetic audiotape much like, but wider than, the later cassette tape, however, it was not enclosed in a case but rather was wrapped onto a large reel. Think movie film reels but smaller. You would simply put the pre-recorded reel on one spindle on the machine and then put an empty reel on the other spindle and load the tape by winding it past the playback heads and then attaching it to empty reel. Reel to reel was primarily used when talking about the larger tape machines used by hobbyists which had 7-inch reels which fit 1/4 inch wide tape (as opposed to 10-inch reels with wider tape sizes used by professionals) mounted on the side (horizontally) of a fairly large machine about the size of a medium-sized suitcase. The quality of the sound was very good but the machines were relatively expensive, heavy, and cumbersome to use. One advantage of these machines is that the recording length could be 2 hours or longer depending on the playback speed of the recording only held back by how much tape could be fit onto a reel. The better quality machines had different speeds at which sounds could be recorded with the quality of the recording improving the faster the machine was run. (Faster = more tape = more tape surface = richer sound recording much like density differences in digital recording for files on your computer, etc. today). One more note* - The biggest reason to keep making older technology devices is that people often have large libraries on older mediums which if replaced legally, (in fairness to the artists, engineers and so forth, particularly if buying music or movies for the 1st time, for all the hard work, expense, and talent which they put into creating them.) could be quite expensive. Library, now what is that?
I remember those laserdiscs. I never had any, but just saw them. There are some UA-cam videos about them. They also were apparently not digital, but analogue. One can say that they were the forerunner of the DVDs.
First time I've even heard of that forerunner of the laserdisc.
I enjoy watching all of your channels, but the blaze is by far my favorite.
Techmoan and Tecnology Connections represent! o/
Im a huge fan of the c.e.d selectavision video disk! Its got a great history, and the video quality is comparable to dvd . Im so happy someone is talking about it! They only have 1600 different movies but there all classics i got a collection of 800.they were made in the early 70s but the ceo of rca thought people only wanted to watch movies in the theater and not at home so he cancelled the program untill lazer disk came out .
Best start to a video ever :D
Beta tapes were a standard in professional video production for a VERY long time. That's why they manufactured them so long.
For anyone interested in those formats, the channel Technology Connections has a great multi-part look at the CED (including demonstartion of a working unit).
The channel Techmoan has many videos covering all of the formats mentioned here and more.
My earliest movie memory is “race for your life Charlie Brown”. My first education on chopper bikes
That's an underrated animated classic. The plot and race is totally absurd in a child friendly way, but the story and overall message is brilliant. It is easily the best Peanuts full length feature film, so far.
"i'd buy a zebra mask if i got a thousand likes" ....... never bet the internet. My buddy had to dress up as a sexy cat man on twitch for 4 hours and paint a sexy pin-up catman gaming miniature.
This channel is not only informative but freaking hilarious
Thanks :)
Seeing Simon reading a script reminds me of the days of radio actors.
Before cassettes there were Eight Track Tapes. A little before your time Simon.
HaHa!
I was thinking the same!
Don't forget about HD DVDs. I remember my dad buying an HD DVD. I believe it was one of the Bourne trilogy movies
YESSSS OK Go!!! I was one of their OG fans back in the days before they released any 'amazing' videos... it's been so cool to watch them grow in their fan base and get the attention they deserve!
12:59 I'd wait for ages with my fingers hovered over the play and record buttons, for songs I liked to play on the radio, then get annoyed when the presenters start talking 2/3 of the way through. Every. Time.
Oh yes, been there.
Every! Time!
I just love the fact that the Duel Disk, having music and DVD content, was basically an early Playstation Disc. It's only made funnier by the fact that both the Playstation 1 AND Playstation 2 discs had this exact same setup (Minus flipping the sides and replace the videos with games), also developed by Sony.
Speaking of which, anyone else notice the alarming amount of failed tech in this involving Sony?
Man I haven't thought about all these old bricks for soooo long... Not that I'm old enough to have used these things, but old enough to know they existed. I think I remember asking my mom what an a track(?) was. I think that's what they were called, like right before VHS were a thing. Then like 10-11ish years ago in a video store my friends and I overheard some 10ish year olds asking what a VHS is. Our reaction was about the same as my Mom's those years ago.
Selectavision is RCA's brand name for the technology. It was eventually produced by other manufacturers, with the more generic term for it as CED, or capacitance electronic disc. So Simon should do a search for CED player as well, and it'll likely yield far more results. Incidentally, RCA recycled the Selectavision name for use in a line of its VHS players. To make things more confusing, there was a period where both the CED Selectavision, and it's VHS sibling were being sold along side one another.
"Why is this a concern?"
Words I keep saying, so many people have some really odd 'fears' out there....
The less problems you have, the more small things you find to make into problems.
Humans gonna human.
*This comment is directly to your video editor Sam* 1:40 I like your style & enjoy reading/seeing your ill be it fast editorial comments but humbly request if u could slow it down to at least 1 second, just to give older/slower fans a moment to revel it your comedic input. (i'm slow & lazy & u make me rewind a lot to fully get it)
*edit*
except for the He-Man ones, keep them as is.
The best of Simon's channels!
The Matrix was my first dvd too!! You realise this means we're practically brothers.
Pretty much. Matrix brothers 4 life.
Then you need to send him a birthday and Christmas cards. :-)
Hmm... The Matrix was my first DVD as well. I wonder if it was a sort of right-of-passage thing to owning a DVD player in the early 00's... you gotta have a copy of The Matrix.
My parents used to have a VHS camcorder. It was so clunky it was like carrying a stinger missile launcher.
He wore the mask!!! Awesome Simon!
One of my favorite things to do at Goodwill is head over to electronics and try to figure out what the heck most of it is!
I have a decent collection of Laserdiscs, but only one Videodisc- it's like a giant floppy disc, and the player is like a massive floppy drive. It's a fascinating format, and while it's not really worth using to watch your favorite older films (even VHS would likely be better quality due to the aging issues) it's still cool if only as a display piece- mainly because the giant floppy disks usually have the movie's official poster printed on the front.
Vinyl and their Players will still be here after you're gone. You obviously haven't heard a truly good analog play back
Beta was used for commercial use for years, because it had much higher quality than VHS or digital formats for video cameras. Thats why it was being produced until 2016. Was the format of choice for like local studio news and whatnot until HD became the standard.
We have records here:
Confirm that we just plug in the phone....
I like the way you said "there it is!" - damn laser disk!
I used to work for an audio visual/film company that would record live events to BetaCam cassettes and would edit them digitally in the studio. As far as I know, they still do.
The "Elcassete" was really an update of a format that RCA developed in the late 1950's (before cassettes or 8 track cartridges).
That was the problem with laser disks as well, you had to flip them over half way through. And sometimes if it was a long enough movie it came with 2 discs.
My dad had a reel-to-reel. Back in the 1990s, I made a cassette of a recording he made in Detroit, when he took his reel-to-reel to a Dave Brubeck concert and recorded him. He also had reels from many big-name Motown musicians, although I was more into jazz at the time. Such live recordings from the 1960s may be worth something, but I'm terrified that playing that cassette today may snap the tape, and my dad has no idea where his old reels went after my parents moved.
I'm far from religious, but bless you Simon mate (and Danny - he doesn't get the recognition for his top-shelf writing!!).
Business Blaze is the 'night show' on the Whistler Network, endearing digressions and hilarious tangents, seeing Simon off the chain is the best entertainment one can find ;)
TEAC: "TEAC Corporation is an electronics company based in Japan. TEAC was created by the merger of the Tokyo Television Acoustic Company, founded in 1953, and the Tokyo Electro-Acoustic Company, founded in 1956." (Wikipedia)
They still exist.
Reel-to-reel: Go to TEAC's website to see them. Surely you'll recognize them, even if only from movie props. It's a giant cassette player where the cassettes are missing the shell.
And everyone remembers the dumbass cheap TEAC four track that wasn't really a four track cause it could play all four tracks, but could record only one track at a time. Still, better than nothing.
As far as Select a vision, contact the guy over at Tech Moan. Or maybe Technology Connection, but he's based in the US.
First DVD I owned was Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon. I could only watch it on my computer too. I remember thinking DVDs would totally flop because they got scratched too easily.... needless to say I was wrong lol.
Edit: I was also only a preteen and had no real knowledge about technology.
I don't get the vinyl craze but I'm old fashioned enough to still buy CDs and own a CD player. I own over 200 CD's 🤣
"Race For Your Life, Charlie Brown" was a movie released in theaters in August 1977. Just about the time of the fist "Star Wars" film. No wonder no body heard of it.
For Wierd tech you want to talk to Tech Moan, VCD's were another contender for meh video play back, barely above VHS quality from the compression and usually were 2 CD's per Movie and to play them you either needed a Games Console with a card add on (Sega Saturn or PS1), a PC or a DVD player which rendered it pointless.
My first MP3s were also Lime flavoured with a 50% chance of Malware or dodgy movie.
man the early 2000's were great
Teac / Tascam was a major maker of professional recording equipment. They also currently make consumer recording gear.