I am looking to replace my older Rome Targa's. Would the Cleavers be the closest substitution? If so, any notable improvements or drawbacks going from Targa to Cleavers?
Everything is better. You loose about 20% of the weight, get adjustable response better straps and a very fun overall ride. Check out the Katana's too.
@@thegoodridesnow Thank you - greatly appreciate the response and love your videos. For reference, I am looking at the Cleaver, Katana, Astro full wrap, Atlas and the Flux XF as the Targa replacement. Given the lack of choice and short and unappealing conditions in Australia it is very difficult to compare products side by side. All the options above are similar in price and I am leaning the Astro's. Again, appreciate the response and look forward to more of your videos.
Yeah hard to say knowing so little about you but i like everything except the XF the lack of shock absorption (literally none) is a deal breaker for me. If you are like me you will love everything about it except that. If you want to get into it more and do this right, hit me here to give me the info I need to help you much better. shop.thegoodride.com/merchandise/gear-advice/
No. They use the same closed cell foam in the base plate and feel exactly the same underfoot in terms of dampness/shock absorption. They are more responsive though.
Not much of a fan of the toe and ankle strap (I felt like my feet was suffocating even on my ions) so got some burton dt ankle and toe straps (I also drilled larger holes on the ankle and toe tongues/sliders for compatibility). ALOT more comfortable (felt very secure still but not suffocating).
Do you plan on doing a Bataleon binding review this year? I’m thinking about the Bataleon Atoms or the Rome Cleavers for my BSOD but there isn’t much info out there for the Atoms.
I didn't get a binding from Bataleon last season so nothing will be posted any time soon. Hoping to get on some this season but I'm pretty backlogged with reviews I need to publish so it won't be any time soon.
There is a little more stress but not enough for most riders to worry. Some Pro's who are very hard on their equipment have ripped out inserts on occasion going super big off jumps but but most average riders will never stress their inserts even in a way that will shorten the life expectancy of your board. If it does worry you set them up full size and forgo stance width adjustability or get a different brand that offers full size discs.
I am looking to replace my older Rome Targa's. Would the Cleavers be the closest substitution? If so, any notable improvements or drawbacks going from Targa to Cleavers?
Everything is better. You loose about 20% of the weight, get adjustable response better straps and a very fun overall ride. Check out the Katana's too.
@@thegoodridesnow Thank you - greatly appreciate the response and love your videos. For reference, I am looking at the Cleaver, Katana, Astro full wrap, Atlas and the Flux XF as the Targa replacement. Given the lack of choice and short and unappealing conditions in Australia it is very difficult to compare products side by side. All the options above are similar in price and I am leaning the Astro's. Again, appreciate the response and look forward to more of your videos.
Yeah hard to say knowing so little about you but i like everything except the XF the lack of shock absorption (literally none) is a deal breaker for me. If you are like me you will love everything about it except that. If you want to get into it more and do this right, hit me here to give me the info I need to help you much better. shop.thegoodride.com/merchandise/gear-advice/
when you tested this did you set it up 2x4 or 4x4? disc feels a little too playful in 2x4 to me did you feel that?
Both. It depended on the board. Softer to mid flexing boards felt pretty playful. When i was in a playful buttering mood it felt great
Would you say the cleavers are more damp than the katana? It looks like the base is almost the same
No. They use the same closed cell foam in the base plate and feel exactly the same underfoot in terms of dampness/shock absorption. They are more responsive though.
Not much of a fan of the toe and ankle strap (I felt like my feet was suffocating even on my ions) so got some burton dt ankle and toe straps (I also drilled larger holes on the ankle and toe tongues/sliders for compatibility). ALOT more comfortable (felt very secure still but not suffocating).
Thanks for your take and nice tweak.
Do you plan on doing a Bataleon binding review this year? I’m thinking about the Bataleon Atoms or the Rome Cleavers for my BSOD but there isn’t much info out there for the Atoms.
I didn't get a binding from Bataleon last season so nothing will be posted any time soon. Hoping to get on some this season but I'm pretty backlogged with reviews I need to publish so it won't be any time soon.
So setting up the bindings the minidisc way there's no risk of extra stress on the inserts?
There is a little more stress but not enough for most riders to worry. Some Pro's who are very hard on their equipment have ripped out inserts on occasion going super big off jumps but but most average riders will never stress their inserts even in a way that will shorten the life expectancy of your board. If it does worry you set them up full size and forgo stance width adjustability or get a different brand that offers full size discs.
@@thegoodridesnow Thanks! Good to know. Not a lot of information about this any where else.
Are the footbeds canted
yep
How would you compare this to the Bataleon Atom? For steep and deep style riding with a Dart 164 Plus, which would you recommend?
Haven't ridden the Atom so can't say. Sorry.
@@thegoodridesnow, understood, thanks for the reply!