As an INFP I can read the room and myself but my blind Se makes it so my goofy ahh can’t do anything about it lol. It’s like how INTP’s are the smartest type but can’t do anything about it, we’re the most emotionally intelligent but still really socially awkward.
It’s really paradoxical. It’s like. I get the show. The movie. And energy of the room. Yet having philosophical battles for the ages to understand who I really am
For me, (INTP) this mainly expresses itself as the parlour trick of spoiling the endings of movies (and books, and television, etc.) that I have not seen.
Same for me, especially since I started writing my own book and study the basic structure of a story. That's why I just turn my brain off when I watch/read something.
Yeah, every genre (horror, romance, mystery, fantasy etc.) has certain formulas that most stories follow so once you know those formulas most endings are easy to predict. Honestly I don't mind a predictable ending if the story is enjoyable enough. What matters more is not the destination, but the journey.
I’m an INTJ, and I *_LOVE_* predicting the endings of movies & shows! They’re so formulaic (unless they’re indie & unique) that I’ve made it a game. I wiki the title to confirm whether my plot guesses were correct. 😆 My Sensor family members NEVER catch on to patterns of human behavior, so their eyes remain locked on the screen, and they think they need to listen to every word of dialogue to understand what’s going on. If I were them, I’d ask myself, “Why is Mo able to guess the story plot without ever watching the movie/show?” 🤔 I was in the room when my sister was watching Episode 2 of “Squid Game,” and only about 10- 15 min. into the show,,and not having watched the FIRST episode, I predicted the plot. For those of us who are interested in psychology and human nature (that’s all of us here on this channel, right?), the plodding storytelling style of mainstream shows is probably agonizingly painful. I find that the most exciting & fun predictions to make is whether people’s relationships will last, esp. if you don’t know them personally. It’s sad that people are so blind to themselves that they can’t even tell that their marriage will fail, even before it’s begun. 🙄
I am an ENFP and I just gave a speech today and the feedback I got was that I was completely genuine with myself and because of that people are able to more easily connect with what I say
This makes a lot of sense. I've always been a very "logical" person and just always assumed Te and Ti both contributed to that. The idea of Ti being a basic natural skill for INTJs, and the fact that I was also taught how to think more than what to think, explains why I use the Ti function as well as I do.
Very true, the 6th critic function seems to be always something we want in a perfectionistic way but don't actually enjoy it. We know we need it and it also irks us when others fail at it, but we will avoid it when we can.
ENTP here. And I was always the first to set the rules for collaboration, for the sake of clarity and as an enabling thing for moving forward to what really matters.
Same. It's vital to avoid conflict and wasting time. And then I van have more of it to spend on researching the part that interests me, instead of dealing with other's drama and disorganisation
Actually, Ni is the fuction that I value the most. There's a lot of hidden beauty in it, and the analytical approach users of this function have. For me it's a joy to listen to INTJ and INFJ talk. I always felt like I was better at Ni, or felt happier using it, than with Ne. Maybe it's because I'm usually depressed, which leads to mental block. -INFP
At first I really doubted that you could find Fi in the INFJs because - at least to me - it's hard to be in tune with my own emotions. When I'm not with someone and using Fe, it almost feels like I don't _have_ emotions. Not like a void, but more like a quiet calm. But I understand what you mean with us having "values" and sticking to them, especially valuing authenticity. I can't speak for every INFJ, but for me, I notice that I probably *could* live without my own values, and I probably *could* live without authenticity; we are after all masterful "people understanders". But like you pointed out in a previous video, if an INFJ were to invite all their different friend groups - with whom they discuss very different things - to the same party, it might be hard for the INFJ to know how to act. So to avoid that situation happening, I've picked up values and principles that I stick to no matter who I'm with. So even if I were to invite all my different friend groups, they all have a somewhat unified understanding of what I'm like. Basically, This INFJ might not be stuck in my own deeply felt emotions a lot of the time, but I do have values and principles that I stick to, because I need to have _some_ values or principles. If I didn't have any values or principles, I would probably become like a bit of butter spread over too much bread; be stretched too thin, and just disappear into the background, not really being an individual.
Thank you for sharing your perspective I found this really insightful. As another Fe user I can definitely relate and I’m wondering if people sometimes do this thing where they pretend to have Fi as to fill in the void in certain social dynamics. I find that hanging out with other fe users (especially higher up), it can kinda get stuck with the “no u go ahead and have values, I’ll just follow along” so I have a very convincing enfp personal for these situations.
hi nathan i just want you to know that i'm personally very indebted to your mentalizing skill. having been watching the results of your observation and analysis through a variety of contents you shared with us, i can say it with certainty most of your viewpoints have helped my operating assumptions - confirmed. all the pieces just came together and making it look sensible. so thank you and keep educating... :)
As an INFJ, this really resonates with me. My Ni tends to jump out only with people I trust deeply, to others I am (mostly) a pretty amiable puff ball. I am also very adept at using my emotions to create something, mostly through the things I write. It almost feels like my Fi is locked away to most of the world and I have to find an exterior source through which to channel it in a careful, useful way that can be of some benefit to society (Fe). I also find myself drawn to people who show a lot of themselves (mostly in a one on one setting) and I love to support and encourage this, partially because it's a trait I envy somewhat. However, when I see this trait play out excessively in a group it can really grate on me as I can sense others in the group are getting overwhelmed or disinterested yet the Ni just keeps coming and coming. I can tend to feel annoyed with myself for being 'judgemental' when I feel this way so I'm happy to learn it's not just me!!
Interesting comment! INTP here and always starved for deep discussions. Now, there are lots of (self proclaimed) INFJ at work whom I’d like to go deep with, but I find them quite reserved; hesitant to share much from their inner depths. And it seems they find my directness and poorer social antennas off-putting.
I don't know much about socionics, but this is a theory I've been thinking about. I'm very much an INTP but sometimes get INTJ on function based tests because I score high on Ni. I'm glad to know I'm not the only one that's come up with this.
When you mention INFJ criticizing Fi in their head when observing it... stop reading my mind. On the contrary though, when my Fi is triggered I want to act (Se). Almost like Hulk Smash reaction tendencies, or Alice in Wonderland "I wish I hadn't cried so much" as she is being swept away in her own tears.
That makes a lot of sense! As an ENFJ, I like to play in the abstract but usually only when you can bring ideas to an end or pin them for future investigation. I work with a lead Ne type and he’s been called out on excitedly generating ideas but never actually pursuing any.
This explains so much. As enfp sometimes I felt like an Ne dom but Fe secondary, which didn’t make sense. But the eye rolling comment is key here. I respect enfjs but feel like I can do Fe just as well but roll my eyes at it. It’s just a flavour to add to what I do rather than the ends. Thanks !!
I relate to this on a spiritual level. Normally when I use my hidden talent (ni) and people don’t heed or listen to my warnings or predictions I get kind of annoyed because the mess they got into could have been completely avoided and time and energy wouldn’t have been wasted. -INTP🐵
This is quite true. I am skilled at Ti, but, like you said, I don't value it. I get extremely annoyed with my INTP brother-in-law because of his high use of it. - ISTJ
Really interesting and accurate. I was mistyped as an enfp for a long while and people around me telling it was true becuase I was "funny" and "showed emotions". But studying my functions and digging deeper made me realize I'm just really good at using Ne and that "emotions" I show through acheivements and my plans working out -and I wasn't conscious about- is me showing my passion and happiness and I can not fit into the enfp box because of that! I'm just in touch with what I want and I have a lot of xnfx friends so I know how to treat them-and myself whenever I feel down-but I can't really be them. What makes me happy is a very good analytical discussion and foresight of what to come in any cases. I do not match the Ni vision; I deeply understand it and whenever I had an interaction with a lot of high Ni users I was deeply feeling what they were saying and could really see where it comes from. I was also raised in a different family and had a difficult life; though I never lost what I wanted to be and who I am and will be(I was also considered as a smart kid back then) and that's why I have differences with others of my type... like come on people; not every one of us is an Andrew Tate. -from a 3w4 female Entj
I'm an intj and this soo true, especially during group projects (I'm in college). Edit: I'm pretty sure that I probably end up pissing people off. Atleast I got no clue about it.
Hey this was really accurate! My ENFJ mom and I (ENTJ) are definitely super creative people, and in very practical sense as that- ever since I can remember we were involved in some sort of creative and handiwork, be that sewing, knitting or furniture restoration and house renovations. We indeed are always brimming with ideas about new projects and we are both very focused on how something can be improved, aesthetically and functionally. In our case it is pretty conscious and I would even say integral part of our identity, although I always thought that pursuing career in art would be completely silly (I ate my words ofc as ENTJs often do lol).
I know someone who is an ENFP. She can read the room really, really well! Her high intuition makes you think she can read your mind at any given moment. When you're not aware of it, it's okay, but when you are, it's uncomfortable. However, she makes sure you feel comfortable around her and puts you at ease. Inspite of her high intuition, there are days she doubts and mistrusts her own intuition. This baffles me sometimes.
This is brilliant. I'm INTJ but cognitive tests keep giving me a high Ti score too. Ti is only a tool I use from time to time to fill in the holes, it's not part of my identity like Ni is. This also explains why I feel so fond of the INTP type. I've always thought of it like some sort of convergent evolution of INTJ: completely different underneath yet so similar. It makes more sense now since INTJ can be good at Ti and INTP at Ni.
INTP here. Such a cool notion. A good few of these examples ring so true from my experience. In improving understanding of the functions I’ve also recently increasingly emphasized - as also was done here - the important difference in a)how we ourselves perceive/ experience a function in us vs b)how OTHERS perceive/ experience the same function in us. It may seem sort of obvious and unimportant but I have found so many insights from this notion.
as an INTJ here, YEP, i ABSOLUTELY CAN CONFIRM this is DEAD ON. i quite regularly structure my understanding of the external world in an EXTRAORDINARILY ORGANIZED, LOGICAL framework. concurrently, i also structure my own personal living space in a HIGHLY ORGANIZED, LOGICAL manner. i ABSOLUTELY LOVE clean lines as well as art and, i characterize my personal living space in a similar fashion. i see my personal living space as NOTHING BUT an extension of myself. so, it ONLY MAKES SENSE that it is a reflection of my structured, organized manner of doing ANY/EVERYthing. ABSOLUTELY. FOR SURE. - INTJ
yeah that’s true for intj. i can always see when a process breaks somewhere, why, and what change would fix it. makes me exceptionally good at reviewing risk management processes, scientific reports, and legislation in my field of expertise. i just see the parts that don’t ‘flow’ right away. i also can sense when the whole doesn’t ‘hang together’ and so need further scrutiny why. i can work out from a broken process or legislatiom etc what it was probably meant to be designed to do, and so if maybe it could be fixed rather than scrapped. i only know this is amazing because colleagues look at me like i walked on water when i do it in real time. otherwise wouldn’t even know it’s normally a difficult thing.
ENFP yes!!!! My friend always says I flirt with everyone just because im outgoing and socially confident like nooooo when i try flirt for real i over think and am so awkward 🤣
this is actually something I've been questioning a lot lately, the way you explained it sold me right off the bat. As an infj i find fi to seem kinda selfish,, not that it's not useful but say for it to be your dominant function it's always seemed just eh to me. But recently I've found myself engaging in thoughts that are somewhat fi-like, started to wonder if maybe i'm a mistyped intj,,, but this makes a lot more sense, might look deeper into this now :0
As an infj, I think morality is important.With Fi as a critical/demonstrative function I do not prefer it or can be too perfectionist about it to express it.But fe and fi go hand in hand, like for me Fe=desire for positive vibes/harmony and Fi=feeling of guilt and desire to be better(hence my personal values).I actually need both😅...If I find meaning in a moral value(using Ni) and find it reasonable/logical (using Ti) and I will also value Fi❤
As an Fi dom with an INFJ family member, I have often wondered about why their Fe-side seemed so Fi-like! Or how they could relate to or understand Fi so well. It was obvious to both of us they are an INFJ, so that made me wonder a lot about if the difference in the extroverted and introverted expression of the functions even made any sense in the first place :P It has always seemed weird to me that a person is supposed to be bad at the opposite expression of a function that is high in their function stack.
@@aniaandherpeanuts Whoops, thank you :D I guess my scandinavian is showing! (I also just looked up the spelling of "whoops", because it would be too embarrassing if that was wrong too!)
@@aquilafilia Aye, it's okay. We all are humans, and we make mistakes. I'am quadilingual, and even though I pretty much grew up learning English I still search up spellings for certain words. It's either a complicated word, or sometimes brain-fog. Ha ha! Also, it was just my INTJ thing which ticked me to correct your spelling. I hope I wasn't rude. 😅
Yeah, we aren't 'supposed to' be bad at those functions, people just make that assumption baselessly (or because they believe the 'four functions only' thing and that we simply Do Not Have the other four functions).
I probably do use Ti more than I think I do, but can't readily think of any scenarios where I have used it. I play a lot of detective games which might require me to use deductive thinking with Ti and Ne, but this does not come nearly as naturally to me compared to when I use Ni and Te in strategy RPGs. I feel like I'd definitely need to understand the Ti function more to be able to recall examples that I have used it.
Hmm that's an interesting approach. My demonstrative function would be Ti. I always devalued math and theoretical physics in comparison to engineering and experimental physics. I like theories to be cross-checked by reality. And used to be dismissive of mathematicians and philosophers. While at the same type being proud of my logical prowess 😅 Taking second function and inverting i/e is useful shortcut. But approach that 3 first functions combined give the effect is better explanation of how that works.
Yay now I finally understand why I keep thinking I might be a a Te dom even though I'm fairly certain I'm ENTP. Guess I just really cared about making it as a musician, which forced me to channel abnormal amounts of Te for many years. Thank you Nathan!
As an INTP, I've always been weirdly good at predicting random footballing events such as first goal scorers, and also at guessing random numbers based on the sentence leading upto the number, like a house price etc. Anyone else?
Thank you for putting a name/face to something I've observed. I hypothesize that this hidden ability manifests because in order to use a function well, you have to reasonably use its opposite-facing function. For example, an externalized system or process (Te) is shit if it's not logically consistent (Ti). Fi, meanwhile, is socially off-putting as hell if one doesn't have a reasonable use of Fe, and this fact can make it more difficult to use Fi if not considered. The same goes for all of the cognitive functions. Sidebar: a really good, albeit fictional, example of the ESFP/ENFP hidden talent is in movie The Hunger Games. Several times before the games we see Peeta instinctively understand how to Fe, then we see him sitting alone only for him to talk about how he doesn't want the gamemakers to change him (Fi). It's clear, therefore, that he values Fi, but he can turn on the Fe charm when needed.
Really creative insight in regards to Peeta in the Hunger Games. You're absolutely right about how he clearly uses Fe because he has to do so to survive, whilst clearly valuing Fi far more. Also, I would say your hypothesis about why a demonstrative function acts as a hidden talent makes perfect logical sense. I'm an INFJ and thus an Fe user, but I use Fi quite a lot and have always been very skilled with using it even as I don't necessarily like the broadest and most extreme expressions of it (like in the case of my INFP best friend, who has a tendency to be quite selfish at points when it comes to trying to live "authentically", doing things like moving to another country despite being warned by multiple people repeatedly that he would not be able to fit into that country's culture and being reminded that there is value in having a place to truly call one's "home", or choosing to pursue a career in agriculture and horticulture because that is his new random obsession despite having just completed a MA of Biostatistics from a prestigious university only 3 years ago when he could use his graduate degree to make the world a better place if he just learned to tolerate working a normal job like most of us are forced to do). In addition, the concept of the demonstrative function makes perfect sense when I think about my best friend's relationship to Ni despite his being an Ne-user, in that he happens to be exceptionally good at brainstorming as one would expect for an Ne-user with an exceptionally high-IQ (he scored a 159 on the WAIS-IV), but he also makes extremely accurate predictions across a broad range of scenarios at the same time as he absolutely hates planning (which both Ni-dom types do automatically), instead being a particularly extreme example of someone who makes decisions based on impulse. Sorry for the long rant. I guess I was just frustrated with my best friend when I started thinking about him and it turned into a bit of a diatribe.
Not so long ago I made a decision to create a game with my ENTP friend - I hope his hidden talent will shine brightly along with his mane talent, because I need his concepts and ideas, but he had to do it in a way that would help with game developing.
Really usefull and great video ! Rubik's cube... yes I have one. So I understand better why NT types score better at WAIS IV test. It measure mainly Ni and Ti. 1 6 FLOW _ 2 5 INSPIRATION _ 3 8 CONFORT _ 4 7 STRESS (source: a video of Erik Thor)
As INTP I can say NI is good for stock market trading. Just be open for all information from the world situation to train automatically your neural NI network in your brain.
What I have noticed is people confusing Fi with authenticity. And it is. But in terms of feelings. To be able to correctly type and understand yourself and others, people need to learn to distinguish between authenticity in terms of feelings vs someone searching for autonomy and having absolutely no problem standing their ground. Until everyone that shows interest in MBTI or more importantly - cognitive functions understands this, people will continue mismatching information and end up with cognitive dissonance as a result.
Just let me read too much into your uploads. For your playlists Nathan you currently have exactly 26 episodes about INTPs and INFPS, and 21 episodes of INTJs and INFJs. Must be your favorite types hands down.
I think the demonstrative differences really come out in the varying lifestyles that you might observe; I always thought the benefactory dynamics that you learn about in socionics for example have very different goals and priorities from each other within the dynamic, for better or worse!
Jesus, yes! That's the thing, I mostly use Ti to dismantle another's logic or system that isn't actually sound, but not really to build systems myself. I just... I connect the dots... 😏
My mom is an ESFJ and my best friend is an ESTJ. They are the two most physically observant people I know (although to be fair, I am not close to any Se dominants). It would seem bizarre to not give either of these people a role for Se in their stack, given that, to quote The Princess Bride, they "could track a falcon on a cloudy day." BTW Prince Humperdink was definitely an INTJ, and I'm pretty sure he could not.
Well, (another comment of mine after the 1st one), from time to time thinking about it, as an ISTJ, the function Ti means to me as a critic function. Since "critic function" manifest in different types in the way of "criticize", it means 4 conscious cognitive functions in our stack are the functions we used in real time, to tackle reality in front of us. The "critic function" - 6th function is the function that works in the later time when we contemplate/watching ourselves in that past reality to "criticize" ourselves, to point out the thought patterns, conscious and subconscious thinking and real-time actions are right or wrong, suitable or not, logical linear with our value or not (Ti critic), and point out how there're more different ways to manifest that idea into reality (Ne critic), ... So i think though I'm not having Ti as a conscious function that i can use well like the Ti users, mainly all of ideas are implemented in real life by Te in a fast forward way, I still use Ti in a way that criticize my thought patterns if they're not linear with my set values, Buddhism philosophy and lifestyle (Fi), to make changes for better being. Also I use both Te and Ti to test my own understanding in technical learning and work, and question whether this idea presented to me has any spot i'm not very clear about.
Well, despite being an INTJ, I didn't quite get the logic of respective explanation. So, according to Natan, we, integees, are good at and natural in criticising, and (in the earlier videos, IIRIR) he said that integes are naturally inclined towards systemising. And here Natan says, that developing the criticism into a full-scale consistent system is something INTJ don't like and do mostly in demonstrative or extremal situations. How does it work? I feel like if a person is good at logic and is able to logically connect points into a line, then it would be comfortable and usual for them, rather than demostrative or emergency.
My theory is that the demonstrative presents latent or potential energy. Too much potential energy becames stagnant. In order to keep the flow it is diverged into the auxiliary function. Just like water becames stale when there's no flow. So the individual is forced to keep always that flow but sometimes there are also moments of stagnancy which can be charactized by the need to use this function. I would even add that this is the true auxiliary but it is skipped in favor of the shadow auxiliary.
As an ENFP , I have often used my skills to ease conflict situations, e.g. between passengers on public transport. But I quickly analyze the situation and assess whether people are so blind with anger that any interference would only make the person more choleric. I then make comments that ridicule the aggression itself, but are never condescending, always in a friendly tone. In most cases I am successful and people calm down. It always amazes me how many people want to put others in their place with authority, and the wrong tone of voice only provokes the aggressor even more.
How good to know that I’m not crazy 😂 Always had this such a wired feeling that I’m literally feeling people and can read them in few seconds 👀 Sadly, not very often follow that because of thinking that maybe this is just my too fast conclusion. Definitely after this video I’m feeling to trust my gut feelings more.
Sooo, somehow the thumbnail changes color? In the recommended section it's red but anywhere else it's blue. Don't know if this was intentional on your end or it's a bug, but it got me to click on the video after a few days of me knowing it was out
Please do a video where you explain the least intuitive type all the way to the most intuitive type placing the types on a scale like you did with the introverted extroverted one.
Esse vídeo veio na melhor hora possível. De uns tempos pra cá, tenho notado umas tendências TI na minha forma de pensar, elas são recorrentes e nunca cheguei a ir muito longe nas funções shadow. Começei a questionar muito meu tipo por isso, mas meu SI é tão óbvio e minha FE tão baixa que ISTP ou ISFJ não encaixavam. No fim, acho que só sou um ISTJ que valoriza um pouco mais TI que a média, afinal, cresci com um ISTP, é natural imaginar que fui mais forçado a usar TI.
As an autistic INFP, it's like having blinkers on for any Ni :( I resonate with INFP so strongly as being my type, but unfortunately, I cannot predict what is going to happen for love nor money, haha. Ah well, still love your work man, so interesting!
As an INTJ, I only pull my Ti out of the cupboard when I can use it to break down another Ti argument lol. Then show why feelings are better than thinking anyway.
So you intjs use Ti to understand a Ti argument and then use Te to express a more broader, well known argument? Maybe thats why they often 'yeah i get your logic but...' to a Ti user
Im infj(Ti tert) and my sister is intj, she usually gets my way of thinking but then provide a better, easier way of logic which always more correct that it annoys me somtimes haha
Basically yeah. It’s quite easy for me to see the internal mechanisms of an argument, but many of them get so caught up in making a neat little package that they neglect all real application. I like breaking these constructs down and revealing their reductivism.
The critic function can often be a huge struggle for many of us. As an INTP I so often see others being irresponsible with their wants and desires that negatively impacts their future (Ne) that I don't want to be irresponsible with my own (Ni) and so I often talk myself out of wanting things that may even be good for me. Being too self-sacrificing in that way is not a good thing. Alternatively, once I've thought through things deep enough that I am sure of my wants, then having someone try to talk me out of it can be infuriating. This is why I feel that most advertising and sales folks do not know how to deal with INTPs who've made up our minds.
By the time I was at 4:35 in the video, it hit me like an aha moment that in one of your videos, you used “using red color as a video thumbnail” as an example. - intj
About ESTJ, I have my dad when he jumps into something new, I know that's Te - getting things done, but also in a Se way to, to experience, to solve a problem, fix a thing, learn something new. Very quick feet, hands on. Me as ISTJ, I'm just an average being, seeing with Si, decide with Te - from external source of data from Si (if the situation allows me, I'll operate that way). About Ti, I think it's Te + Fi = Ti, I see inconsistencies of others' words and action, and feel that just ... nonsense. 😑
that's called cognitive emulation; this method is used when trying to mimic the lower functions that is immature/unavailable to the person. Though the initial function must be optimistic (1st and 3rd) while the secondary pessimistic (2nd and 4th) for the emulation to work. For an ISTJ, you have to be cognitively transitioning/inverting to your subconscious to orderly perform the (Te+Fi=Ti) since by default Te is pessimistic and Fi is optimistic or you're a shadow-focused/developed ISTJ that favor the use of the unconscious.
@@tiberiusgrey1529 I'm normally using the 4 conscious functions, and only emulate shadow functions if needed. I'm not 'shadow-oriented' either. 😅 Actually cognitive functions can be combined fluidly in that way, because human psyche is actually complex.
02:35 ESTP and ENTP
04:26 ISTJ and INTJ
05:49 ESFP and ENFP
07:37 INFP and INTP
09:09 ISTP and ISFP
10:44 ENTJ and ENFJ
12:16 ESFJ and ESTJ
13:19 INFJ and ISFJ
Thank you
Thanks!! 💚
ENFPs can read a room but often have trouble reading themselves.
Can confirm, I can read people but have problems with reading... It's not what you wrote, right?
@@RelyableLerilay correct
Entp same. I have no idea what I feel
As an INFP I can read the room and myself but my blind Se makes it so my goofy ahh can’t do anything about it lol. It’s like how INTP’s are the smartest type but can’t do anything about it, we’re the most emotionally intelligent but still really socially awkward.
It’s really paradoxical. It’s like. I get the show. The movie. And energy of the room. Yet having philosophical battles for the ages to understand who I really am
For me, (INTP) this mainly expresses itself as the parlour trick of spoiling the endings of movies (and books, and television, etc.) that I have not seen.
Same for me, especially since I started writing my own book and study the basic structure of a story. That's why I just turn my brain off when I watch/read something.
If this were the case then I'd suggest we all write a book about our lives with the best end at every chapter.
Yeah, every genre (horror, romance, mystery, fantasy etc.) has certain formulas that most stories follow so once you know those formulas most endings are easy to predict. Honestly I don't mind a predictable ending if the story is enjoyable enough. What matters more is not the destination, but the journey.
I’m an INTJ, and I *_LOVE_* predicting the endings of movies & shows! They’re so formulaic (unless they’re indie & unique) that I’ve made it a game. I wiki the title to confirm whether my plot guesses were correct. 😆
My Sensor family members NEVER catch on to patterns of human behavior, so their eyes remain locked on the screen, and they think they need to listen to every word of dialogue to understand what’s going on. If I were them, I’d ask myself, “Why is Mo able to guess the story plot without ever watching the movie/show?” 🤔
I was in the room when my sister was watching Episode 2 of “Squid Game,” and only about 10- 15 min. into the show,,and not having watched the FIRST episode, I predicted the plot. For those of us who are interested in psychology and human nature (that’s all of us here on this channel, right?), the plodding storytelling style of mainstream shows is probably agonizingly painful.
I find that the most exciting & fun predictions to make is whether people’s relationships will last, esp. if you don’t know them personally. It’s sad that people are so blind to themselves that they can’t even tell that their marriage will fail, even before it’s begun. 🙄
Same. Predicting endings is thoroughly enjoyable. I loathe seeing movie previews because it reveals too much.
I like how isfps and istps are just slowly being portrayed as these absolute units
I am an ENFP and I just gave a speech today and the feedback I got was that I was completely genuine with myself and because of that people are able to more easily connect with what I say
This makes a lot of sense. I've always been a very "logical" person and just always assumed Te and Ti both contributed to that. The idea of Ti being a basic natural skill for INTJs, and the fact that I was also taught how to think more than what to think, explains why I use the Ti function as well as I do.
Very true, the 6th critic function seems to be always something we want in a perfectionistic way but don't actually enjoy it. We know we need it and it also irks us when others fail at it, but we will avoid it when we can.
ENTP here. And I was always the first to set the rules for collaboration, for the sake of clarity and as an enabling thing for moving forward to what really matters.
Same. It's vital to avoid conflict and wasting time. And then I van have more of it to spend on researching the part that interests me, instead of dealing with other's drama and disorganisation
Actually, Ni is the fuction that I value the most. There's a lot of hidden beauty in it, and the analytical approach users of this function have.
For me it's a joy to listen to INTJ and INFJ talk.
I always felt like I was better at Ni, or felt happier using it, than with Ne. Maybe it's because I'm usually depressed, which leads to mental block.
-INFP
INFP: De acuerdo. Para mi, todo es Ni, la mas bella.
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♥ My partner is an INFP who also really values my Ni, and I'm glad it also seems to be helpful and get him out of doomthinking...
At first I really doubted that you could find Fi in the INFJs because - at least to me - it's hard to be in tune with my own emotions.
When I'm not with someone and using Fe, it almost feels like I don't _have_ emotions. Not like a void, but more like a quiet calm.
But I understand what you mean with us having "values" and sticking to them, especially valuing authenticity.
I can't speak for every INFJ, but for me, I notice that I probably *could* live without my own values, and I probably *could* live without authenticity; we are after all masterful "people understanders".
But like you pointed out in a previous video, if an INFJ were to invite all their different friend groups - with whom they discuss very different things - to the same party, it might be hard for the INFJ to know how to act. So to avoid that situation happening, I've picked up values and principles that I stick to no matter who I'm with. So even if I were to invite all my different friend groups, they all have a somewhat unified understanding of what I'm like.
Basically, This INFJ might not be stuck in my own deeply felt emotions a lot of the time, but I do have values and principles that I stick to, because I need to have _some_ values or principles. If I didn't have any values or principles, I would probably become like a bit of butter spread over too much bread; be stretched too thin, and just disappear into the background, not really being an individual.
Thank you for sharing your perspective I found this really insightful. As another Fe user I can definitely relate and I’m wondering if people sometimes do this thing where they pretend to have Fi as to fill in the void in certain social dynamics. I find that hanging out with other fe users (especially higher up), it can kinda get stuck with the “no u go ahead and have values, I’ll just follow along” so I have a very convincing enfp personal for these situations.
very well said
Exactly.
As an ENFJ, I know I’m an idea machine and I’ve never worried about not having good ideas. It’s very natural for me to brainstorm great ideas 🤣
hi nathan i just want you to know that i'm personally very indebted to your mentalizing skill. having been watching the results of your observation and analysis through a variety of contents you shared with us, i can say it with certainty most of your viewpoints have helped my operating assumptions - confirmed. all the pieces just came together and making it look sensible. so thank you and keep educating... :)
That’s really cool to hear. Thank you! ~ Nathan
As an INFJ, this really resonates with me. My Ni tends to jump out only with people I trust deeply, to others I am (mostly) a pretty amiable puff ball. I am also very adept at using my emotions to create something, mostly through the things I write. It almost feels like my Fi is locked away to most of the world and I have to find an exterior source through which to channel it in a careful, useful way that can be of some benefit to society (Fe). I also find myself drawn to people who show a lot of themselves (mostly in a one on one setting) and I love to support and encourage this, partially because it's a trait I envy somewhat. However, when I see this trait play out excessively in a group it can really grate on me as I can sense others in the group are getting overwhelmed or disinterested yet the Ni just keeps coming and coming. I can tend to feel annoyed with myself for being 'judgemental' when I feel this way so I'm happy to learn it's not just me!!
Interesting comment! INTP here and always starved for deep discussions. Now, there are lots of (self proclaimed) INFJ at work whom I’d like to go deep with, but I find them quite reserved; hesitant to share much from their inner depths. And it seems they find my directness and poorer social antennas off-putting.
I don't know much about socionics, but this is a theory I've been thinking about. I'm very much an INTP but sometimes get INTJ on function based tests because I score high on Ni. I'm glad to know I'm not the only one that's come up with this.
When you mention INFJ criticizing Fi in their head when observing it... stop reading my mind. On the contrary though, when my Fi is triggered I want to act (Se). Almost like Hulk Smash reaction tendencies, or Alice in Wonderland "I wish I hadn't cried so much" as she is being swept away in her own tears.
That makes a lot of sense! As an ENFJ, I like to play in the abstract but usually only when you can bring ideas to an end or pin them for future investigation. I work with a lead Ne type and he’s been called out on excitedly generating ideas but never actually pursuing any.
This explains so much. As enfp sometimes I felt like an Ne dom but Fe secondary, which didn’t make sense. But the eye rolling comment is key here. I respect enfjs but feel like I can do Fe just as well but roll my eyes at it. It’s just a flavour to add to what I do rather than the ends. Thanks !!
Using “magpie” as a verb is so enjoyably archaic. - ENTP
I relate to this on a spiritual level. Normally when I use my hidden talent (ni) and people don’t heed or listen to my warnings or predictions I get kind of annoyed because the mess they got into could have been completely avoided and time and energy wouldn’t have been wasted. -INTP🐵
Ditto
As an Ni dom, I relate. XD
ahhh that's me😂
and i am here again and again 😂
This is quite true. I am skilled at Ti, but, like you said, I don't value it. I get extremely annoyed with my INTP brother-in-law because of his high use of it.
- ISTJ
Aww your videos are so balanced. I always leave them feeling I now understand and appreciate both myself and my friends and family better.
Really interesting and accurate. I was mistyped as an enfp for a long while and people around me telling it was true becuase I was "funny" and "showed emotions". But studying my functions and digging deeper made me realize I'm just really good at using Ne and that "emotions" I show through acheivements and my plans working out -and I wasn't conscious about- is me showing my passion and happiness and I can not fit into the enfp box because of that! I'm just in touch with what I want and I have a lot of xnfx friends so I know how to treat them-and myself whenever I feel down-but I can't really be them. What makes me happy is a very good analytical discussion and foresight of what to come in any cases. I do not match the Ni vision; I deeply understand it and whenever I had an interaction with a lot of high Ni users I was deeply feeling what they were saying and could really see where it comes from. I was also raised in a different family and had a difficult life; though I never lost what I wanted to be and who I am and will be(I was also considered as a smart kid back then) and that's why I have differences with others of my type... like come on people; not every one of us is an Andrew Tate.
-from a 3w4 female Entj
I'm an intj and this soo true, especially during group projects (I'm in college).
Edit: I'm pretty sure that I probably end up pissing people off. Atleast I got no clue about it.
Hey this was really accurate! My ENFJ mom and I (ENTJ) are definitely super creative people, and in very practical sense as that- ever since I can remember we were involved in some sort of creative and handiwork, be that sewing, knitting or furniture restoration and house renovations. We indeed are always brimming with ideas about new projects and we are both very focused on how something can be improved, aesthetically and functionally. In our case it is pretty conscious and I would even say integral part of our identity, although I always thought that pursuing career in art would be completely silly (I ate my words ofc as ENTJs often do lol).
Yes! I recently met a super creative entj especially in problem solving!
I'm an ENFP and never used to understand why people thought I was always flirting with them.
... because you were? - ENTP
I know someone who is an ENFP. She can read the room really, really well! Her high intuition makes you think she can read your mind at any given moment. When you're not aware of it, it's okay, but when you are, it's uncomfortable. However, she makes sure you feel comfortable around her and puts you at ease. Inspite of her high intuition, there are days she doubts and mistrusts her own intuition. This baffles me sometimes.
This is brilliant. I'm INTJ but cognitive tests keep giving me a high Ti score too. Ti is only a tool I use from time to time to fill in the holes, it's not part of my identity like Ni is.
This also explains why I feel so fond of the INTP type. I've always thought of it like some sort of convergent evolution of INTJ: completely different underneath yet so similar. It makes more sense now since INTJ can be good at Ti and INTP at Ni.
INTP here. Such a cool notion. A good few of these examples ring so true from my experience. In improving understanding of the functions I’ve also recently increasingly emphasized - as also was done here - the important difference in a)how we ourselves perceive/ experience a function in us vs b)how OTHERS perceive/ experience the same function in us. It may seem sort of obvious and unimportant but I have found so many insights from this notion.
This is one of the most useful videos you've ever made!
as an INTJ here, YEP, i ABSOLUTELY CAN CONFIRM this is DEAD ON.
i quite regularly structure my understanding of the external world in an EXTRAORDINARILY ORGANIZED, LOGICAL framework. concurrently, i also structure my own personal living space in a HIGHLY ORGANIZED, LOGICAL manner.
i ABSOLUTELY LOVE clean lines as well as art and, i characterize my personal living space in a similar fashion. i see my personal living space as NOTHING BUT an extension of myself. so, it ONLY MAKES SENSE that it is a reflection of my structured, organized manner of doing ANY/EVERYthing.
ABSOLUTELY.
FOR SURE.
- INTJ
yeah that’s true for intj. i can always see when a process breaks somewhere, why, and what change would fix it. makes me exceptionally good at reviewing risk management processes, scientific reports, and legislation in my field of expertise. i just see the parts that don’t ‘flow’ right away. i also can sense when the whole doesn’t ‘hang together’ and so need further scrutiny why. i can work out from a broken process or legislatiom etc what it was probably meant to be designed to do, and so if maybe it could be fixed rather than scrapped. i only know this is amazing because colleagues look at me like i walked on water when i do it in real time. otherwise wouldn’t even know it’s normally a difficult thing.
ENFP yes!!!! My friend always says I flirt with everyone just because im outgoing and socially confident like nooooo when i try flirt for real i over think and am so awkward 🤣
this is actually something I've been questioning a lot lately, the way you explained it sold me right off the bat. As an infj i find fi to seem kinda selfish,, not that it's not useful but say for it to be your dominant function it's always seemed just eh to me. But recently I've found myself engaging in thoughts that are somewhat fi-like, started to wonder if maybe i'm a mistyped intj,,, but this makes a lot more sense, might look deeper into this now :0
this comment is completely unnecessary lmfao it's just that the timing was too perfect ;v;
As an infj, I think morality is important.With Fi as a critical/demonstrative function I do not prefer it or can be too perfectionist about it to express it.But fe and fi go hand in hand, like for me Fe=desire for positive vibes/harmony and Fi=feeling of guilt and desire to be better(hence my personal values).I actually need both😅...If I find meaning in a moral value(using Ni) and find it reasonable/logical (using Ti) and I will also value Fi❤
As an Fi dom with an INFJ family member, I have often wondered about why their Fe-side seemed so Fi-like! Or how they could relate to or understand Fi so well. It was obvious to both of us they are an INFJ, so that made me wonder a lot about if the difference in the extroverted and introverted expression of the functions even made any sense in the first place :P It has always seemed weird to me that a person is supposed to be bad at the opposite expression of a function that is high in their function stack.
*function
- INTJ
@@aniaandherpeanuts Whoops, thank you :D I guess my scandinavian is showing!
(I also just looked up the spelling of "whoops", because it would be too embarrassing if that was wrong too!)
@@aquilafilia Aye, it's okay. We all are humans, and we make mistakes. I'am quadilingual, and even though I pretty much grew up learning English I still search up spellings for certain words. It's either a complicated word, or sometimes brain-fog. Ha ha!
Also, it was just my INTJ thing which ticked me to correct your spelling. I hope I wasn't rude. 😅
Yeah, we aren't 'supposed to' be bad at those functions, people just make that assumption baselessly (or because they believe the 'four functions only' thing and that we simply Do Not Have the other four functions).
@@Multitudes_ that does make a lot more sense! I find a lot people in mbti try to make every thing very either or 😅
This is amazing. The way you think about it is fascinating. Really enjoyed the video.
Totally fascinating! Explains a lot.
As an ENFP with Austism the skill that you talking about (Nathan) I had to learn. I am brilliant at mantiplying people and I can force myself to cry.
Near deadline being an ENTP I use Te. It is quite helpful to complete the task. If I use Ti never complete the task
I probably do use Ti more than I think I do, but can't readily think of any scenarios where I have used it. I play a lot of detective games which might require me to use deductive thinking with Ti and Ne, but this does not come nearly as naturally to me compared to when I use Ni and Te in strategy RPGs. I feel like I'd definitely need to understand the Ti function more to be able to recall examples that I have used it.
complicated + insightful
Hmm that's an interesting approach. My demonstrative function would be Ti. I always devalued math and theoretical physics in comparison to engineering and experimental physics.
I like theories to be cross-checked by reality.
And used to be dismissive of mathematicians and philosophers. While at the same type being proud of my logical prowess 😅
Taking second function and inverting i/e is useful shortcut. But approach that 3 first functions combined give the effect is better explanation of how that works.
Yay now I finally understand why I keep thinking I might be a a Te dom even though I'm fairly certain I'm ENTP. Guess I just really cared about making it as a musician, which forced me to channel abnormal amounts of Te for many years. Thank you Nathan!
As an INTP, I've always been weirdly good at predicting random footballing events such as first goal scorers, and also at guessing random numbers based on the sentence leading upto the number, like a house price etc. Anyone else?
Me
Your magic trick analogy is right on! ~infp
Thank you for putting a name/face to something I've observed. I hypothesize that this hidden ability manifests because in order to use a function well, you have to reasonably use its opposite-facing function. For example, an externalized system or process (Te) is shit if it's not logically consistent (Ti). Fi, meanwhile, is socially off-putting as hell if one doesn't have a reasonable use of Fe, and this fact can make it more difficult to use Fi if not considered. The same goes for all of the cognitive functions.
Sidebar: a really good, albeit fictional, example of the ESFP/ENFP hidden talent is in movie The Hunger Games. Several times before the games we see Peeta instinctively understand how to Fe, then we see him sitting alone only for him to talk about how he doesn't want the gamemakers to change him (Fi). It's clear, therefore, that he values Fi, but he can turn on the Fe charm when needed.
Really creative insight in regards to Peeta in the Hunger Games. You're absolutely right about how he clearly uses Fe because he has to do so to survive, whilst clearly valuing Fi far more.
Also, I would say your hypothesis about why a demonstrative function acts as a hidden talent makes perfect logical sense. I'm an INFJ and thus an Fe user, but I use Fi quite a lot and have always been very skilled with using it even as I don't necessarily like the broadest and most extreme expressions of it (like in the case of my INFP best friend, who has a tendency to be quite selfish at points when it comes to trying to live "authentically", doing things like moving to another country despite being warned by multiple people repeatedly that he would not be able to fit into that country's culture and being reminded that there is value in having a place to truly call one's "home", or choosing to pursue a career in agriculture and horticulture because that is his new random obsession despite having just completed a MA of Biostatistics from a prestigious university only 3 years ago when he could use his graduate degree to make the world a better place if he just learned to tolerate working a normal job like most of us are forced to do).
In addition, the concept of the demonstrative function makes perfect sense when I think about my best friend's relationship to Ni despite his being an Ne-user, in that he happens to be exceptionally good at brainstorming as one would expect for an Ne-user with an exceptionally high-IQ (he scored a 159 on the WAIS-IV), but he also makes extremely accurate predictions across a broad range of scenarios at the same time as he absolutely hates planning (which both Ni-dom types do automatically), instead being a particularly extreme example of someone who makes decisions based on impulse. Sorry for the long rant. I guess I was just frustrated with my best friend when I started thinking about him and it turned into a bit of a diatribe.
This is enormously helpful for understanding J vs. P.
"I've magpied" 😂
Not so long ago I made a decision to create a game with my ENTP friend - I hope his hidden talent will shine brightly along with his mane talent, because I need his concepts and ideas, but he had to do it in a way that would help with game developing.
"If you're debating whether or not to ask an ESTP or ENTP you know to organise your wedding - *don't* "
Really usefull and great video !
Rubik's cube... yes I have one. So I understand better why NT types score better at WAIS IV test. It measure mainly Ni and Ti.
1 6 FLOW _ 2 5 INSPIRATION _ 3 8 CONFORT _ 4 7 STRESS (source: a video of Erik Thor)
As INTP I can say NI is good for stock market trading. Just be open for all information from the world situation to train automatically your neural NI network in your brain.
I've had a hard time understanding what introverted intuition is, but apparently it is: A conceptual understanding of reality.
Fe: Suppresses the individual for the group
Fi: Empathizes with the individual.
I've often thought that maybe I was too capable of using NE for an ENTJ, thanks for explaining why that's so!
What I have noticed is people confusing Fi with authenticity. And it is. But in terms of feelings. To be able to correctly type and understand yourself and others, people need to learn to distinguish between authenticity in terms of feelings vs someone searching for autonomy and having absolutely no problem standing their ground. Until everyone that shows interest in MBTI or more importantly - cognitive functions understands this, people will continue mismatching information and end up with cognitive dissonance as a result.
It was nice talking to you Nathan . intj 4w5. I hope you stay in America 🙏 and stay safe.
Just let me read too much into your uploads. For your playlists Nathan you currently have exactly 26 episodes about INTPs and INFPS, and 21 episodes of INTJs and INFJs. Must be your favorite types hands down.
I think the demonstrative differences really come out in the varying lifestyles that you might observe; I always thought the benefactory dynamics that you learn about in socionics for example have very different goals and priorities from each other within the dynamic, for better or worse!
Jesus, yes! That's the thing, I mostly use Ti to dismantle another's logic or system that isn't actually sound, but not really to build systems myself. I just... I connect the dots... 😏
What ever it is, it is an INFJ that will figure it how to do it better!
Brilliant work once again!
My mom is an ESFJ and my best friend is an ESTJ. They are the two most physically observant people I know (although to be fair, I am not close to any Se dominants). It would seem bizarre to not give either of these people a role for Se in their stack, given that, to quote The Princess Bride, they "could track a falcon on a cloudy day." BTW Prince Humperdink was definitely an INTJ, and I'm pretty sure he could not.
It’s been awhile, great to see the content !
This explains so much…about so much. Ty
Watching ISTJ and INTJ solve logical problems is like watching someone casually solve a rubix cube. "No big deal."
Well, (another comment of mine after the 1st one), from time to time thinking about it, as an ISTJ, the function Ti means to me as a critic function. Since "critic function" manifest in different types in the way of "criticize", it means 4 conscious cognitive functions in our stack are the functions we used in real time, to tackle reality in front of us. The "critic function" - 6th function is the function that works in the later time when we contemplate/watching ourselves in that past reality to "criticize" ourselves, to point out the thought patterns, conscious and subconscious thinking and real-time actions are right or wrong, suitable or not, logical linear with our value or not (Ti critic), and point out how there're more different ways to manifest that idea into reality (Ne critic), ...
So i think though I'm not having Ti as a conscious function that i can use well like the Ti users, mainly all of ideas are implemented in real life by Te in a fast forward way, I still use Ti in a way that criticize my thought patterns if they're not linear with my set values, Buddhism philosophy and lifestyle (Fi), to make changes for better being. Also I use both Te and Ti to test my own understanding in technical learning and work, and question whether this idea presented to me has any spot i'm not very clear about.
Hi can you please create a video for the dark side of ISFPs thank you!
Thank you again! So interesting and helpful 😊
Makes sense. Great video!
Well, despite being an INTJ, I didn't quite get the logic of respective explanation.
So, according to Natan, we, integees, are good at and natural in criticising, and (in the earlier videos, IIRIR) he said that integes are naturally inclined towards systemising. And here Natan says, that developing the criticism into a full-scale consistent system is something INTJ don't like and do mostly in demonstrative or extremal situations.
How does it work? I feel like if a person is good at logic and is able to logically connect points into a line, then it would be comfortable and usual for them, rather than demostrative or emergency.
😮 wow so an infj ( my friend) being more obsessed with fe then an enfj ( me ) is very Fi of them , 🤯 i never thought of it this way
I'm told that for an ENFP, Ne and Fi combined can simulate Fe. I suppose the same can be said about Se Fi combination.
My theory is that the demonstrative presents latent or potential energy. Too much potential energy becames stagnant. In order to keep the flow it is diverged into the auxiliary function. Just like water becames stale when there's no flow. So the individual is forced to keep always that flow but sometimes there are also moments of stagnancy which can be charactized by the need to use this function. I would even add that this is the true auxiliary but it is skipped in favor of the shadow auxiliary.
So we can say the second personality?
As an ENFP , I have often used my skills to ease conflict situations, e.g. between passengers on public transport.
But I quickly analyze the situation and assess whether people are so blind with anger that any interference would only make the person more choleric.
I then make comments that ridicule the aggression itself, but are never condescending, always in a friendly tone. In most cases I am successful and people calm down.
It always amazes me how many people want to put others in their place with authority, and the wrong tone of voice only provokes the aggressor even more.
Wow. It was a newfound knowledge. That was a new perspective towards all types. Interesting.
How good to know that I’m not crazy 😂
Always had this such a wired feeling that I’m literally feeling people and can read them in few seconds 👀 Sadly, not very often follow that because of thinking that maybe this is just my too fast conclusion. Definitely after this video I’m feeling to trust my gut feelings more.
Oh I thought this was going to be about hobbies lol, but this makes more sense
finally! I was always confused as to why I seemed to be a ni user when I knew for sure Ne is my thing 😅 you described perfectly
ISTP is actually pretty spot on…
Sooo, somehow the thumbnail changes color? In the recommended section it's red but anywhere else it's blue. Don't know if this was intentional on your end or it's a bug, but it got me to click on the video after a few days of me knowing it was out
Please do a video where you explain the least intuitive type all the way to the most intuitive type placing the types on a scale like you did with the introverted extroverted one.
Esse vídeo veio na melhor hora possível. De uns tempos pra cá, tenho notado umas tendências TI na minha forma de pensar, elas são recorrentes e nunca cheguei a ir muito longe nas funções shadow. Começei a questionar muito meu tipo por isso, mas meu SI é tão óbvio e minha FE tão baixa que ISTP ou ISFJ não encaixavam. No fim, acho que só sou um ISTJ que valoriza um pouco mais TI que a média, afinal, cresci com um ISTP, é natural imaginar que fui mais forçado a usar TI.
thanks man
As an autistic INFP, it's like having blinkers on for any Ni :( I resonate with INFP so strongly as being my type, but unfortunately, I cannot predict what is going to happen for love nor money, haha. Ah well, still love your work man, so interesting!
So the opposite of the trickster?
Yeah. As an intp, when a question gets an answer, which means i have to start being productive, i just quit.
When a question get new questions, i win!
As an INTJ, I only pull my Ti out of the cupboard when I can use it to break down another Ti argument lol. Then show why feelings are better than thinking anyway.
So you intjs use Ti to understand a Ti argument and then use Te to express a more broader, well known argument?
Maybe thats why they often 'yeah i get your logic but...' to a Ti user
Im infj(Ti tert) and my sister is intj, she usually gets my way of thinking but then provide a better, easier way of logic which always more correct that it annoys me somtimes haha
Basically yeah. It’s quite easy for me to see the internal mechanisms of an argument, but many of them get so caught up in making a neat little package that they neglect all real application. I like breaking these constructs down and revealing their reductivism.
My Ni, Se, and Ne come out similar this may explain some things.
demonstrative is in fact the critique function, 6th slot
As an intp I always predict when drama will happen
The critic function can often be a huge struggle for many of us. As an INTP I so often see others being irresponsible with their wants and desires that negatively impacts their future (Ne) that I don't want to be irresponsible with my own (Ni) and so I often talk myself out of wanting things that may even be good for me. Being too self-sacrificing in that way is not a good thing. Alternatively, once I've thought through things deep enough that I am sure of my wants, then having someone try to talk me out of it can be infuriating. This is why I feel that most advertising and sales folks do not know how to deal with INTPs who've made up our minds.
Glory to Bast man. You are always right on the money
well done for what it was
By the time I was at 4:35 in the video, it hit me like an aha moment that in one of your videos, you used “using red color as a video thumbnail” as an example.
- intj
Wow, this is so me (INFP)
i really like this video. i agree so much.
Alternatively title of the video: Here’s a video that will make you confused about your type even further.
About ESTJ, I have my dad when he jumps into something new, I know that's Te - getting things done, but also in a Se way to, to experience, to solve a problem, fix a thing, learn something new. Very quick feet, hands on.
Me as ISTJ, I'm just an average being, seeing with Si, decide with Te - from external source of data from Si (if the situation allows me, I'll operate that way). About Ti, I think it's Te + Fi = Ti, I see inconsistencies of others' words and action, and feel that just ... nonsense. 😑
that's called cognitive emulation; this method is used when trying to mimic the lower functions that is immature/unavailable to the person. Though the initial function must be optimistic (1st and 3rd) while the secondary pessimistic (2nd and 4th) for the emulation to work. For an ISTJ, you have to be cognitively transitioning/inverting to your subconscious to orderly perform the (Te+Fi=Ti) since by default Te is pessimistic and Fi is optimistic or you're a shadow-focused/developed ISTJ that favor the use of the unconscious.
@@tiberiusgrey1529 I'm normally using the 4 conscious functions, and only emulate shadow functions if needed. I'm not 'shadow-oriented' either. 😅 Actually cognitive functions can be combined fluidly in that way, because human psyche is actually complex.
Ni is not devalued; it's spooky as hell, and not just for me. The nonchalance and unpredictability of its expression makes it spookier.