Jump to the following parts of this episode 01:44 Shade Cloth vs No Shade Cloth 04:30 Problems with Black Shade Cloth 04:55 Aluminet Shade Cloth 05:35 How Photosynthesis works 09:17 Problems with Growing in the desert 10:00 Buy a GYG Tee Shirt at compassion-tees.com/ 10:39 Full Sun Lux and Temperature Test 12:32 Problems with Growing in Full Sun 13:12 Aluminet Lux and Temperature Test 14:46 Black Shade Cloth Lux and Temperature Test 16:38 Summary of Testing 20:30 Aluminet Cloth I Purchased - Real vs Chinese Knockoff 23:45 My New Aluminet Shade Cloth Installed 25:14 Get the Aluminet with Grommets installed 26:49 Some Plants May not need shade cloth 27:44 Experiment 28:02 What I would do if I had more time
Learn Organic Gardening at GrowingYourGreens Hey man I love your videos and I love how you Garden could you just make your videos little shorter and to the point
Learn Organic Gardening at GrowingYourGreens: Plus do a video how can we protect our gardens or food farmland from chemtrail and in food nutrients laced with chentrail?
Lol I usually tell people that comment this to go and google what they want to know. Because youtube is for videos to watch. It would be weird to tell you that though. :)
Thank you! Everyone who posts longer videos should always include an index. This creates a lot more interest in the videos, and encourages people like me to watch them.
Hi there, how did you put the conduit together to have the bars go horizontal, on top? I have conduit pipe and I just want to make a simple structure to hang the shade cloth (I have the illuminate as well) I'm using it to shade my outdoor rabbits and patio. Thank you!
I live east of Tucson and have a hoop house that I grow in. Last year I bought 40% Svensson Solaro to protect from the sun. Esthetics mean a lot to me and this product is beautiful as well as functional. We had a hail storm yesterday and I believe it even saved the plastic underneath it from damage. So far, I love it. It is black on one side and white on the other. • Highly reflective white side limits light and heat transmission for more efficient greenhouse shading during the day. • When the temperature drops at night, black side helps reduce radiated heat loss.
Just an update after putting up the aluminet shade cloth over my tree collards, they starting growing much better. Full sun was just stressing them out a bit too much. With this new shade cloth, I am seeing alot more young and tender growth, which is good eating and getting the plant to be healthier in the long run. Year Update: This cheap chinese "aluminet" has started to flake. I do not recommend if you need to use it longer than 1 season.
I had 2 collard trees that were doing so well. But when the heat came they all died and I couldn’t even getting clippings from it to “take’. I’m decluttering my house to sell it and down-size. When I move in Autumn I hope I can have a little plot to start again. Where can I buy another collard tree then? Thanks John. You’re so appreciated by so many, and loved. I hope you realize how funny you are sometimes when you describe a situation. Drina
I have used several brands of aluminized shade cloth over the years over greenhouses in hot Summer. The main issue / problem I have had is that the aluminum coating on the polypropelene starts flaking off in very small particles when the cloth is handled or moved. Need to wear a dust mask when installing and removing after the first season of use. It may or may not do this when brand new just out of the package. The aluminized cloth definitely reflects more heat energy for hot desert growing, and lasts just as long as regular shade cloth, BUT with flecks of the aluminum coating continually flaking off.
This here is some good information! I live in the high desert of California, and let me tell you - this has been the worst summer I can remember! We had a heat 'wave' that lasted for about 3 months, with temps way past 100 degrees every single day. Plus, since we're almost 3,000 feet in altitude, the sun is even more intense. I was going to purchase a regular 40% black shade cloth, but after watching your video I'm now looking into the aluminet shade cloths. Thank you for the information, John. I'll be testing it next summer for sure. Right now, however, the fall garden will be much more enjoyable - for both me and the plants!
I live in Vegas also. I tried the black shade cloth and noticed the same thing. Will have to try out the reflective shade cloth instead. My Armenian cucumbers, malabar and okra did just fine but the tomatoes and peppers are struggling. Hopefully this will help them next year. I usually watch your video’s to figure out how and what to grow out here so thank you!
This is my first year growing tomatoes here in Texas. This year has also been the hottest yet with temps in the 100s for most of this summer. A quarter of my plants have died, even most of my cucamelons which are native to Mexico. My poor tomatoes have been on my patio in the shade. I hardened them like you're supposed to and they were still burned. I have been researching shade cloths and plan on purchasing one . Thanks for the video. I always enjoy them.
Crystal I am in Melbourne, Australia where it is winter. Last summer it was extremely hot for a long time and the sun was fierce. I grew all my vegetables under a shadecloth tent and they did great. I used a circus tent-like structure with stakes around the garden beds and one stake in the centre, and the shadecloth (70% UV reduction - dark green) draped over the stakes. I watered through the shade cloth and lifted it off most days to hand-pollinate capsicums, chillies and eggplants. Tomatoes fertilised themselves in the wind. I plan on doing the same thing this coming spring/summer and have started getting supplies ready.
I love in Texas also. We have had a summer to challenge 1980! As luck would have it this year we decided not to use our cover on the garden just to see how it did. And we get the hottest summer EVER! But the garden is still doing really good. Yes we have had some stress but all in all getting a good harvest. Water morning and evening and don't get it on your leaves, especially in the mornings. I believe next year we will probably try out the aluminet shade.
I live up in the panhandle. The heat is hurting bad but we also have winds that are in the 30mph range on the regular. I want to invest in shade cloth because i did a big experiment on tomatoe varieties to see what i liked but after severe weather season, hornworm attacks, and now heat im wondering if i can do it. I want to put up cloth but i also dont want it to blow away
I'm in deep deep S. Texas. We give up trying to grow tomatoes after the middle of June however a few plants that i planted in a shady area are still alive and it's mid July!! Thanks to John, I'm becoming more shade educated. As usual, great video, John.
Thank you! This video convinced me to try the Aluminet shade net, and I am super happy with it! So happy that I got a second one to cover more plants this season! I'm in southeast Virginia, not the desert, but it gets extremely hot and humid here. The sun, unbelievably, hit 140,000 lux today too. The plants under Aluminet are not even fazed, and that has never happened before in the middle of summer. I even have a pink Brandywine that has set more tomatoes than I can keep up with - normally, you cannot get a Brandywine tomato at all because of the heat here. If not for you, I might never have had another Brandywine, and that would have been a tragedy! Hope all is well, and thank you again. You do a great job!
Thank you!! We need this :) It was over 100° here for a week straight since July began... Went to the 90's after a harsh Thunderstorm, and back to 100° starting tomorrow. Great info, thanks John
I found a very good shade cloth in Amazon. Share with everybody. www.amazon.com/dp/B0749M5914?ref=myi_title_dp www.amazon.com/dp/B072QCKT8M?ref=myi_title_dp
I grew up in Western NY and always had a garden. Retired now in Las Vegas I want to have a garden. We live in condo with only a 15 x 14 foot concrete patio. John I love your channel. I love your sense of humor. But most of all I love all the knowledge you bring to us. I want to to container garden along with some tower planters. I am 72 and somewhat disabled and have limitations. But you seem to always have us in mind. Bless you my friend! Now to figure out how to use this cloth since I can't put holes in the concrete! lol If you have suggestions greatly appreciated!
Great video John!!!! Thanks to your advice I found a 6.5 by 6.5 black shade cloth (under $15) to put over one of my raised beds and what a difference . . . plants are soooooo much happier. They are just being shaded in the full noon sun and still get morning and late afternoon light. Easy cost effective solution . . . you rock!!!!
Living in the mild climate we generally have I never thought I'd need shade cloth, but this year we had a rude awakening. For the first time, we experienced horrific wildfires, severe drought, and water restrictions so we lost a lot of plants. I'm getting shade cloth for my veg garden next season for those freakishly scorching days that we can expect in the years ahead. Thanks for this video!
Very informative video - thank you! Just in time for grow season here in Zone 7a/6b at 2000 ft above sea level. I use 40% Aluminet over my greenhouse and essentially leave it from May-September. At my elevation the sun is hot and intense with most days beautifully crystal clear. Without shade cloth my greenhouse would completely overheat in spite of motorized exhaust/intake fans and misting. I run full hydroponics and shade cloth plus burying reservoirs into ground helps to keep nutrient flow under 75*.
A shade net greenhouse is way better than a plastic greenhouse. Some of the advantages of a shade house include being cheaper, being more durable, being more effective in summer, being safer to farm workers as it has great ventilation. Its also easier to build or repair. For most horticultural crops such s tomatoes, cucumbers, lettuce, green vegetables, runner beans, strawberries and bell peppers, a 40% white shade cloth is the best.
So far this summer, we have our gardens growing well, even in 117 degrees without shade cloth. I put up tips and ideas for our viewers too, thanks for all you do! You got us started, so we too are spreading the word on growing lots of our own foods, thanks again!
Hi John. I live at 1000M (3000ft) above sea level. It gets fairly hot here in July and August but not usually super hot, however i think my problem is the intensity of the sun here, many of my vegetables seem to stop growing during these months so i thought i would try shade cloth this year for many of them, the concept is to try to simulate the weather in the spring where the sun is less powerful and things grow fast. Especially since we have a short season and planting here starts mid May. That means things go in pretty late and they are not necessarily that big by July which is when things tend to stop growing due to the suns intensity.
Very informative... your presentation of facts using tools to measure convinced me. I’m a bit of a nub to this, second year with a garden. I have gained so much from the experience... more than meets the eye!
I use aluminex fabric for a picnic table sitting area next to my cabin in far west TX desert. Really works well in keeping it tolerable sitting outside.
Only thing the thrived last year was my okra which lives heat!! I've decided with 110 heat index I need some type of shade cloth to have veggies to grow in Texas. 😢
Thanks for the post. Never heard of the product. I’m not in the desert. But it turns out I can use this for covering my car. A small one would be good in your survival supplies in the trunk. Protect you from sun exposure if you break down or get lost
I'm in basically desert Australia and ordering everything to shade cloth my front yard as a trial to try lower heat, help the grass grow and retain more moisture, 3.66m wide cloth then 3m gap then cloth, gap, cloth. Will be interesting to see if it helps.
Thank you John for making this video. I really enjoyed it and learned a lot from it. You are very right, your videos are full of awesome knowledge and wisdome. I appreciate all you do, keep up the good work. And yes, please keep us updated on how your plants do with this shade cloth. I will definetly buy some my self, my squash plants did not do much this year because here in the San Antonio area has been really hot, but each year it is always like that during the summer (in my opinion), I think investing in this shade cloth will be a good thing. 👍 God bless you!!
Thank you so much for doing this video on the shade cloth!! I've been needing to put up this in my garden for the summers we have here because Florida is so hot and horrible with the weather! It's been one crazy year!! I cant wait to get my produce and herb seedlings out there!! I have seeds and plants everywhere I look!! Lol My fiance just shakes his head by now because he knows I am impatient and I always need to growing something!!
This is great info! I'm in what's called the short prairie grass eco system - almosta desert climate in the summer. Last week, 80s and 90s and this week 90s. I am using the black shade cloth over my salad crops - ive been worrying about the light vs heat factors. Also worries about my tomato and chili plants. Thanks for clearing that up!
Greens contain vitamin K - two, which clots the blood. I know a woman who ate greens every day and who had a massive stroke caused by a blood clot, caused by too much K2..
I used ground cover and I was able to cut from a single planting of Mesclun from June through...now (6A NE Ohio). Just had to be on top of covering and removing everyday during peak sun.
Hey bought my juicer off this guy (which I absolutely love, Tribest Slowstar)!!! Totally random that I found another one of his videos completely unrelated to juicing, guess John and I want similar lifestyles. Keep up the great content!!
I've had great experience with white shade cloth (40%), especially in the Winter. I wonder if the aluminate would blocked out too much sun and warmth in the winter time.
John, I stopped by and subbed..great info. I had an idea and wanted to confirm if a shade cloth in a low tunnel and misters may help me grow lettuces in peak sun. My goose ate my wife’s romaine...sooo it inspired me to look outside the box for a second try in Nebraska 90-95 degree 75+ humidity for the next couple weeks...possibly month. Thanks for the alumicloth suggestion.one thought on your summary remark regarding only shading during peak of day. Try measuring the curve of sun exposure and place the cloth in a way that only blocks the sun at that time directionally. Hope it helps.
Great video man just built my greenhouse and my plants are burning up! We are going to winter here in VA but my cacti are still growing I need shade cloth to help diffuse some of the light
Great video John and interesting tools! I guess I have never completely bought into the idea that sun loving plants need to be in the sun all the time and vice versa. Sun damaged plants can recover if given some protection and a chance to recover. A person just needs to access the damage on the plant. I saved a bunch of plants at a greenhouse many years ago now with that thought. :) I have found even here in Minnesota we need some shade cloth in the summer. Being outside a lot in the sun to me seems to be way more intense the later few years here than it has been in the past. I know there are different levels of shade cloth. I have seen trees, plants, etc have burned leaves and I live in rural area. It doesn't it hurt to experiment and start out with lower percent of shade cloth. :)
This is now 2022 of June! Since may had 109 to 100 temps in Abilene, TX. No rain! I put up shade cloth, best thing I Ever done! No trees! And plants do grow under the tree! Also covers my sitting area to rest!! My plants are growing waaaay better under shade cloth! I use plain black shade cloth!
I use shade cloth to keep pests away. deer, rabbits. poachers etc..even tho some rats chew through it / also monsoon rains w/intense wind are reduced by shade cloth...and hail which will wipe out a crop in minutes...on and on and on....and being able to retract it and double up with cable and pulleys. A bit pricey but with this climate change indispensable if you are a serious grower......"that being said" keep up the good work John
I would like to know also! Getting ready to buy one and although I too live in Las Vegas, it was 114 degrees yesterday and I have a wooden fenced-in in patio Garden that's between the two two-story buildings. It's even hotter there. I have different sizes of old scrap burlap with percentages of shade protection until I can get this one you are showing us. However the size is going to be a challenge as I want it all in one piece big enough to keep the cats from jumping over the fence!
I just built a 10 X 20' 1 1/2" PVC frame for a 10X 20 sized shade cloth. I sprayed the PVC for some UV protection last night and today I am lashing the cloth to the frame and then planning to hang it above my garden to protect from the blazing later day western sun in Moab UT. I have a 2 story structure and a 1 1/2 story shed and a few trees to the East I can use for anchors to get the shade structure up high so it can "float" above the garden and hopefully survive the high winds we can get here. I have not seen any info on hanging a shade cloth like I am planning and wondering why? The PVC parts cost me about $65 and the cloth on amazon was $30 and I also need some cord and straps I have already. Trying to avoid building and buying a pricey rigid wood or metal structure with building materials so expensive now, plus the extra time to build and install. Up to now I had a couple large lombardy cottonwoods in my garden for some shade, but the died and got rid of them this spring. Wish me luck!
@Marcia Ewell how did it go last year? Horrible heatwave building (lanor day 2022) 105° today 111° and 112° next week. I don't know how far south this ridge of high pressure is affecting, but I suspect you're getting it too. I have lots of shade cloth, but shopping for the rest of this year and for next summer so really interested in your experience. PS I set up the far Western side ad you describe I think, using clothespins and clips to keep the shade cloth up on poles.
@@Dindasayswhynot I worked too good, lol. The shade cloth I bought on amazon was darker than they advertised so it was really nice for me to have good shade for working. But the tomatoes and peppers did not grow so well last year as they need a bit more sun to do well. But the hanging PVC frame is still doing great and has withstood a year and a half of huge winds and several major storms that flooded the town and my home. The cheap weed cloth only made it to end of summer and just disintegrated from the sun UV rays. Easy to remove for winter, haha.
Thanks for the tips! So I did a thing, finally... I'd been telling you for a while now we were wanting to start a UA-cam channel of our own, but that we were afraid. Well, we finally DID IT!!! We've now got 3 episodes up, and the 4th drops tomorrow. I hope you'll stop by to check them out and let me know what you think ❤️ We appreciate you and all your efforts. Jenn Seven Sprouts Farmstead GA
I'm in Mineral Wells, TX...and today I'm rigging up a shade cloth over my raised beds. I hope to keep everything happy and producing over the summer....maybe.
I know this is an older episode ... I hope you will still check questions here ... What do you think about using Burlap and a cheap alternative for plants in AZ.
Here in Hawaii, I'm needing shade cloth despite high temperature only in the high 80s or very low 90s. The sun is too strong during the summer time. Especially my cucumbers and squash leaves were wilting and burning despite moist soil.
Great Video! Thanks! What kind of poles are your 1" metal poles? Any suggestions where to look for them. Having a hard time finding them in the area of Texas I'm in. Aloha
I live out in Phoenix, ive been using a regular 30 precent shade cloth, it seems to protect my foliage but my flower production seems to be reduced, i didnt know about the aluminet shade cloth definitely gonna try that, the only one i see on Amazon is 70 precent is that too much?
Can you please talk about whether these different materials degrade? In our part of the Sonoran Desert, the high heat, intense UV and winds dry things out super fast, and they breakdown and become pollutants. There is plastic everywhere here already.
AHJ George I live in the Chihuahua desert. I have had the big box store light colored tan and dark green shade cloth for over 5 years. I prefer the tan, but neither are in decline. Because of our winds, I find a frame is necessary. I use a soldering iron to put holes in the cloth. It acts like a plastic and fuses together. I use Dacron type cords to tie to the frame. I tried stapling it a few times, but again the winds would pull those out. 73
My 2 year old shade cloth (black one) has not degraded yet. I suppose it depends on the quality of the cloth. If is not UV treated (or uses inferior treatment) it will break down more quickly. Most plastic at some point will break down. If this is your highest concern, you can use something like white sheets, or burlap that may shade more or less.
Is the shade cloth fabric tight enough to keep bugs out ? I used a bug net last year and it worked perfect but the plants still get fried in the texas heat. Also wonder if it would be ok to completely in close my raised bed with this shade cloth like I did the bug net or if it will keep the heat trapped inside ?
Hi John .I realy enjoy watching your videos., would like to ask for your help to solve a big problem. I live in Crete Greece and want to set up a perminant shade net over my dragon fruit pantation .cause it gets very hot here in the summer.with temperatures rising up from 38°C to 45°C. So my question for you is, what would be the most ideal shade net i should be useing,a 30%,40% or 50% shade .Please help me, God Bless you and your love ones.Thank you.
Also, I just checked Amazon for the Aluminet shade cloth and have no idea at to select. There is a 40%. 70%, 90%, etc. Several colors as well. Can you please help narrow this down? I just received 50% agfabric and going to return it after watching this video but I need to have something to shade my veggies. Thanks!
What about cacti and succulents, young succulents ect? Also for people who have mcs, types of cloth and materials matter due to sensitivities do you know what that shade cloth is made of by chance ?
One huge item you failed to touch on, I assume because you don’t have to deal with it, but that is the humidity factor. Southern states deal with heat and humidity.
Also I'm going to try a WOVEN black shade cloth. It looks like it lets light through fine...and cheap: www.agriculturesolutions.com/dewitt-uv-pp-woven-shade-cloth-30-black-per-sq-ft
Hi dear sir. Thanks so much for such a valuable information. I want to know what material or type od shade net to use for providing darkness to poinsettias for bract coloring. Plz guide me. Thanks
Jump to the following parts of this episode
01:44 Shade Cloth vs No Shade Cloth
04:30 Problems with Black Shade Cloth
04:55 Aluminet Shade Cloth
05:35 How Photosynthesis works
09:17 Problems with Growing in the desert
10:00 Buy a GYG Tee Shirt at compassion-tees.com/
10:39 Full Sun Lux and Temperature Test
12:32 Problems with Growing in Full Sun
13:12 Aluminet Lux and Temperature Test
14:46 Black Shade Cloth Lux and Temperature Test
16:38 Summary of Testing
20:30 Aluminet Cloth I Purchased - Real vs Chinese Knockoff
23:45 My New Aluminet Shade Cloth Installed
25:14 Get the Aluminet with Grommets installed
26:49 Some Plants May not need shade cloth
27:44 Experiment
28:02 What I would do if I had more time
Learn Organic Gardening at GrowingYourGreens Hey man I love your videos and I love how you Garden could you just make your videos little shorter and to the point
Learn Organic Gardening at GrowingYourGreens: Plus do a video how can we protect our gardens or food farmland from chemtrail and in food nutrients laced with chentrail?
Lol I usually tell people that comment this to go and google what they want to know. Because youtube is for videos to watch. It would be weird to tell you that though. :)
Thank you! Everyone who posts longer videos should always include an index.
This creates a lot more interest in the videos, and encourages people like me to watch them.
Hi there, how did you put the conduit together to have the bars go horizontal, on top? I have conduit pipe and I just want to make a simple structure to hang the shade cloth (I have the illuminate as well) I'm using it to shade my outdoor rabbits and patio. Thank you!
I live east of Tucson and have a hoop house that I grow in. Last year I bought 40% Svensson Solaro to protect from the sun. Esthetics mean a lot to me and this product is beautiful as well as functional. We had a hail storm yesterday and I believe it even saved the plastic underneath it from damage. So far, I love it.
It is black on one side and white on the other.
• Highly reflective white side limits light and heat transmission for more efficient greenhouse shading during the day.
• When the temperature drops at night, black side helps reduce radiated heat loss.
Just an update after putting up the aluminet shade cloth over my tree collards, they starting growing much better. Full sun was just stressing them out a bit too much. With this new shade cloth, I am seeing alot more young and tender growth, which is good eating and getting the plant to be healthier in the long run.
Year Update: This cheap chinese "aluminet" has started to flake. I do not recommend if you need to use it longer than 1 season.
Learn Organic Gardening at GrowingYourGreens
Excellent vid as usual John.
How does it hold up during windy days?
its fine on windy days. Just make sure its tied down well. Just blows in the wind.
I had 2 collard trees that were doing so well. But when the heat came they all died and I couldn’t even getting clippings from it to “take’. I’m decluttering my house to sell it and down-size. When I move in Autumn I hope I can have a little plot to start again. Where can I buy another collard tree then? Thanks John. You’re so appreciated by so many, and loved. I hope you realize how funny you are sometimes when you describe a situation. Drina
Good question - we get some crazy strong winds!
Can we grow Strawberries using aluminet?
I have used several brands of aluminized shade cloth over the years over greenhouses in hot Summer. The main issue / problem I have had is that the aluminum coating on the polypropelene starts flaking off in very small particles when the cloth is handled or moved. Need to wear a dust mask when installing and removing after the first season of use. It may or may not do this when brand new just out of the package. The aluminized cloth definitely reflects more heat energy for hot desert growing, and lasts just as long as regular shade cloth, BUT with flecks of the aluminum coating continually flaking off.
Im not looking forward to that at all (if it happens to mine). They need to come up with a way to improve the cloth!
Why not just use white shade cloth?
This here is some good information! I live in the high desert of California, and let me tell you - this has been the worst summer I can remember! We had a heat 'wave' that lasted for about 3 months, with temps way past 100 degrees every single day. Plus, since we're almost 3,000 feet in altitude, the sun is even more intense. I was going to purchase a regular 40% black shade cloth, but after watching your video I'm now looking into the aluminet shade cloths. Thank you for the information, John. I'll be testing it next summer for sure. Right now, however, the fall garden will be much more enjoyable - for both me and the plants!
I live in Vegas also. I tried the black shade cloth and noticed the same thing. Will have to try out the reflective shade cloth instead. My Armenian cucumbers, malabar and okra did just fine but the tomatoes and peppers are struggling. Hopefully this will help them next year. I usually watch your video’s to figure out how and what to grow out here so thank you!
This is my first year growing tomatoes here in Texas. This year has also been the hottest yet with temps in the 100s for most of this summer. A quarter of my plants have died, even most of my cucamelons which are native to Mexico. My poor tomatoes have been on my patio in the shade. I hardened them like you're supposed to and they were still burned. I have been researching shade cloths and plan on purchasing one . Thanks for the video. I always enjoy them.
Crystal I am in Melbourne, Australia where it is winter. Last summer it was extremely hot for a long time and the sun was fierce. I grew all my vegetables under a shadecloth tent and they did great. I used a circus tent-like structure with stakes around the garden beds and one stake in the centre, and the shadecloth (70% UV reduction - dark green) draped over the stakes. I watered through the shade cloth and lifted it off most days to hand-pollinate capsicums, chillies and eggplants. Tomatoes fertilised themselves in the wind. I plan on doing the same thing this coming spring/summer and have started getting supplies ready.
I live in El Paso. I put a shade cloth on the southwest side of my tomato cages. I cover the 90 degrees between south and west.
I love in Texas also. We have had a summer to challenge 1980! As luck would have it this year we decided not to use our cover on the garden just to see how it did. And we get the hottest summer EVER! But the garden is still doing really good. Yes we have had some stress but all in all getting a good harvest. Water morning and evening and don't get it on your leaves, especially in the mornings. I believe next year we will probably try out the aluminet shade.
I live up in the panhandle. The heat is hurting bad but we also have winds that are in the 30mph range on the regular. I want to invest in shade cloth because i did a big experiment on tomatoe varieties to see what i liked but after severe weather season, hornworm attacks, and now heat im wondering if i can do it. I want to put up cloth but i also dont want it to blow away
I'm in deep deep S. Texas. We give up trying to grow tomatoes after the middle of June however a few plants that i planted in a shady area are still alive and it's mid July!! Thanks to John, I'm becoming more shade educated. As usual, great video, John.
Thank you! This video convinced me to try the Aluminet shade net, and I am super happy with it! So happy that I got a second one to cover more plants this season! I'm in southeast Virginia, not the desert, but it gets extremely hot and humid here. The sun, unbelievably, hit 140,000 lux today too. The plants under Aluminet are not even fazed, and that has never happened before in the middle of summer. I even have a pink Brandywine that has set more tomatoes than I can keep up with - normally, you cannot get a Brandywine tomato at all because of the heat here. If not for you, I might never have had another Brandywine, and that would have been a tragedy! Hope all is well, and thank you again. You do a great job!
Thank you!! We need this :) It was over 100° here for a week straight since July began... Went to the 90's after a harsh Thunderstorm, and back to 100° starting tomorrow. Great info, thanks John
I found a very good shade cloth in Amazon. Share with everybody.
www.amazon.com/dp/B0749M5914?ref=myi_title_dp
www.amazon.com/dp/B072QCKT8M?ref=myi_title_dp
I grew up in Western NY and always had a garden. Retired now in Las Vegas I want to have a garden. We live in condo with only a 15 x 14 foot concrete patio. John I love your channel. I love your sense of humor. But most of all I love all the knowledge you bring to us. I want to to container garden along with some tower planters. I am 72 and somewhat disabled and have limitations. But you seem to always have us in mind. Bless you my friend! Now to figure out how to use this cloth since I can't put holes in the concrete! lol If you have suggestions greatly appreciated!
Anchor poles in containers with quickcrete
Great video John!!!!
Thanks to your advice I found a 6.5 by 6.5 black shade cloth (under $15) to put over one of my raised beds and what a difference . . . plants are soooooo much happier.
They are just being shaded in the full noon sun and still get morning and late afternoon light.
Easy cost effective solution . . . you rock!!!!
Not chem trails. Con trails. Meaning condensation
Chemtrails and contrails they are spraying heavy metals world wide@@genegrindle8859
Living in the mild climate we generally have I never thought I'd need shade cloth, but this year we had a rude awakening. For the first time, we experienced horrific wildfires, severe drought, and water restrictions so we lost a lot of plants. I'm getting shade cloth for my veg garden next season for those freakishly scorching days that we can expect in the years ahead. Thanks for this video!
Very informative video - thank you! Just in time for grow season here in Zone 7a/6b at 2000 ft above sea level. I use 40% Aluminet over my greenhouse and essentially leave it from May-September. At my elevation the sun is hot and intense with most days beautifully crystal clear. Without shade cloth my greenhouse would completely overheat in spite of motorized exhaust/intake fans and misting. I run full hydroponics and shade cloth plus burying reservoirs into ground helps to keep nutrient flow under 75*.
A shade net greenhouse is way better than a plastic greenhouse. Some of the advantages of a shade house include being cheaper, being more durable, being more effective in summer, being safer to farm workers as it has great ventilation. Its also easier to build or repair. For most horticultural crops such s tomatoes, cucumbers, lettuce, green vegetables, runner beans, strawberries and bell peppers, a 40% white shade cloth is the best.
So far this summer, we have our gardens growing well, even in 117 degrees without shade cloth. I put up tips and ideas for our viewers too, thanks for all you do! You got us started, so we too are spreading the word on growing lots of our own foods, thanks again!
really like the actual testing and honest review of products. thank you for all you do.
Hi John. I live at 1000M (3000ft) above sea level. It gets fairly hot here in July and August but not usually super hot, however i think my problem is the intensity of the sun here, many of my vegetables seem to stop growing during these months so i thought i would try shade cloth this year for many of them, the concept is to try to simulate the weather in the spring where the sun is less powerful and things grow fast. Especially since we have a short season and planting here starts mid May. That means things go in pretty late and they are not necessarily that big by July which is when things tend to stop growing due to the suns intensity.
Saw this video at the right time, usually in west Africa we have temperature of about 33 degree Celsius. This video has given new idea
Very informative... your presentation of facts using tools to measure convinced me. I’m a bit of a nub to this, second year with a garden. I have gained so much from the experience... more than meets the eye!
I use aluminex fabric for a picnic table sitting area next to my cabin in far west TX desert. Really works well in keeping it tolerable sitting outside.
Great show. As ive discovered this year in Texas, full sun does not mean full heat! My watermelons are even crying this yr!
It's brutal, huh? I say here in Texas we have two seasons: summer and ALMOST summer!
Only thing the thrived last year was my okra which lives heat!! I've decided with 110 heat index I need some type of shade cloth to have veggies to grow in Texas. 😢
This also explains how my house plant is doing. Thanks for another great video.
The black shade net isn't 40%, by these figures, it's about 95% shade.
Maybe the label was wrong.
Thanks for the post. Never heard of the product. I’m not in the desert. But it turns out I can use this for covering my car. A small one would be good in your survival supplies in the trunk. Protect you from sun exposure if you break down or get lost
Thanks for the tip :-) .
I'm in basically desert Australia and ordering everything to shade cloth my front yard as a trial to try lower heat, help the grass grow and retain more moisture, 3.66m wide cloth then 3m gap then cloth, gap, cloth. Will be interesting to see if it helps.
Thank you John for making this video. I really enjoyed it and learned a lot from it. You are very right, your videos are full of awesome knowledge and wisdome. I appreciate all you do, keep up the good work. And yes, please keep us updated on how your plants do with this shade cloth. I will definetly buy some my self, my squash plants did not do much this year because here in the San Antonio area has been really hot, but each year it is always like that during the summer (in my opinion), I think investing in this shade cloth will be a good thing. 👍
God bless you!!
Very thorough and informative. Answered all my questions :) Thanks John
Thank you so much for doing this video on the shade cloth!! I've been needing to put up this in my garden for the summers we have here because Florida is so hot and horrible with the weather! It's been one crazy year!! I cant wait to get my produce and herb seedlings out there!! I have seeds and plants everywhere I look!! Lol My fiance just shakes his head by now because he knows I am impatient and I always need to growing something!!
I’m in Florida too! South Florida. Did the aluminet help last year? Someone gave me a black shade cloth but wondering if aluminet would be better?
This is great info! I'm in what's called the short prairie grass eco system - almosta desert climate in the summer. Last week, 80s and 90s and this week 90s. I am using the black shade cloth over my salad crops - ive been worrying about the light vs heat factors. Also worries about my tomato and chili plants. Thanks for clearing that up!
If I eat 2 lbs of greens everyday, will I be guaranteed the amount of energy John has in all his videos? Because like I need it
Not just eat the greens & fruits but work with the plants n youll have more energy no doubt
Greens contain vitamin K - two, which clots the blood. I know a woman who ate greens every day and who had a massive stroke caused by a blood clot, caused by too much K2..
LOL No. He is amazing.
Light colours can reflect it if you can’t afford illimunate white or off white can give you a similar result
I used ground cover and I was able to cut from a single planting of Mesclun from June through...now (6A NE Ohio). Just had to be on top of covering and removing everyday during peak sun.
I don t have the words.. Just Thank you men!!! Thank you so Much!!
Hey bought my juicer off this guy (which I absolutely love, Tribest Slowstar)!!! Totally random that I found another one of his videos completely unrelated to juicing, guess John and I want similar lifestyles. Keep up the great content!!
I've had great experience with white shade cloth (40%), especially in the Winter. I wonder if the aluminate would blocked out too much sun and warmth in the winter time.
Moved to Las Vegas from California and I definitely had to learn some new skills.
Very relevant to here in the UK at the moment. We are having a heatwave here at the moment. Thanks for the upload.
108 in San Diego CA this week, plants are getting burned. Need shade cloth!
Are those kale or broccolis at 24:28 - those are massive. Thanks for sharing this video
John, I stopped by and subbed..great info. I had an idea and wanted to confirm if a shade cloth in a low tunnel and misters may help me grow lettuces in peak sun. My goose ate my wife’s romaine...sooo it inspired me to look outside the box for a second try in Nebraska 90-95 degree 75+ humidity for the next couple weeks...possibly month. Thanks for the alumicloth suggestion.one thought on your summary remark regarding only shading during peak of day. Try measuring the curve of sun exposure and place the cloth in a way that only blocks the sun at that time directionally. Hope it helps.
Great video man just built my greenhouse and my plants are burning up! We are going to winter here in VA but my cacti are still growing I need shade cloth to help diffuse some of the light
Great video John and interesting tools! I guess I have never completely bought into the idea that sun loving plants need to be in the sun all the time and vice versa. Sun damaged plants can recover if given some protection and a chance to recover. A person just needs to access the damage on the plant. I saved a bunch of plants at a greenhouse many years ago now with that thought. :)
I have found even here in Minnesota we need some shade cloth in the summer. Being outside a lot in the sun to me seems to be way more intense the later few years here than it has been in the past. I know there are different levels of shade cloth. I have seen trees, plants, etc have burned leaves and I live in rural area. It doesn't it hurt to experiment and start out with lower percent of shade cloth. :)
I think your videos are great i learn lots everytime. Thanks. The time stamps are good too
This is now 2022 of June! Since may had 109 to 100 temps in Abilene, TX. No rain! I put up shade cloth, best thing I Ever done! No trees! And plants do grow under the tree! Also covers my sitting area to rest!! My plants are growing waaaay better under shade cloth! I use plain black shade cloth!
Hey bud, we live in climate zone 3. We use shade cloth in March. The sun has our green house up in the 105’s if February. It’s important.
I like your garden and your info helped a ton. Thanks.
"... I don't see any chem trails today." Loved it! Made me smile, as did all of this useful information. Great video, thanks!
I use shade cloth to keep pests away. deer, rabbits. poachers etc..even tho some rats chew through it / also monsoon rains w/intense wind are reduced by shade cloth...and hail which will wipe out a crop in minutes...on and on and on....and being able to retract it and double up with cable and pulleys. A bit pricey but with this climate change indispensable if you are a serious grower......"that being said"
keep up the good work John
Also, now that it's been almost two years, did it work as expected? Are you still using 40% aluminate?
I would like to know also! Getting ready to buy one and although I too live in Las Vegas, it was 114 degrees yesterday and I have a wooden fenced-in in patio Garden that's between the two two-story buildings. It's even hotter there. I have different sizes of old scrap burlap with percentages of shade protection until I can get this one you are showing us. However the size is going to be a challenge as I want it all in one piece big enough to keep the cats from jumping over the fence!
I'll definitely try it. Thanks for sharing
I just built a 10 X 20' 1 1/2" PVC frame for a 10X 20 sized shade cloth. I sprayed the PVC for some UV protection last night and today I am lashing the cloth to the frame and then planning to hang it above my garden to protect from the blazing later day western sun in Moab UT. I have a 2 story structure and a 1 1/2 story shed and a few trees to the East I can use for anchors to get the shade structure up high so it can "float" above the garden and hopefully survive the high winds we can get here. I have not seen any info on hanging a shade cloth like I am planning and wondering why? The PVC parts cost me about $65 and the cloth on amazon was $30 and I also need some cord and straps I have already. Trying to avoid building and buying a pricey rigid wood or metal structure with building materials so expensive now, plus the extra time to build and install. Up to now I had a couple large lombardy cottonwoods in my garden for some shade, but the died and got rid of them this spring. Wish me luck!
@Marcia Ewell how did it go last year? Horrible heatwave building (lanor day 2022) 105° today 111° and 112° next week. I don't know how far south this ridge of high pressure is affecting, but I suspect you're getting it too. I have lots of shade cloth, but shopping for the rest of this year and for next summer so really interested in your experience. PS I set up the far Western side ad you describe I think, using clothespins and clips to keep the shade cloth up on poles.
@@Dindasayswhynot I worked too good, lol. The shade cloth I bought on amazon was darker than they advertised so it was really nice for me to have good shade for working. But the tomatoes and peppers did not grow so well last year as they need a bit more sun to do well. But the hanging PVC frame is still doing great and has withstood a year and a half of huge winds and several major storms that flooded the town and my home. The cheap weed cloth only made it to end of summer and just disintegrated from the sun UV rays. Easy to remove for winter, haha.
Great informative video. I'm in Tucson and appreciate your info. There are very minimal desert gardening videos.
Thanks for the tips! So I did a thing, finally... I'd been telling you for a while now we were wanting to start a UA-cam channel of our own, but that we were afraid. Well, we finally DID IT!!! We've now got 3 episodes up, and the 4th drops tomorrow. I hope you'll stop by to check them out and let me know what you think ❤️ We appreciate you and all your efforts.
Jenn
Seven Sprouts Farmstead
GA
Oh my gosh my garden needs this badly!! We get so heavily geo-engineered the uv is off the charts and my plants get scorched.
Im in Dallas - its only June and its 100+ which isn’t normal, so my garden is going to be unhappy this year unless I do something. Thx
I'm in Mineral Wells, TX...and today I'm rigging up a shade cloth over my raised beds. I hope to keep everything happy and producing over the summer....maybe.
In south Florida today it’s cooler at 86f but it has been in the 90s. However, the “feels like” temperature has been in the upper 90s and 100s.
I know this is an older episode ... I hope you will still check questions here ... What do you think about using Burlap and a cheap alternative for plants in AZ.
The netting can also save your crop from large hail stones.
Yes, there are also anti-hail net, anti-bird net, anti-grass net.....but the specifications are different.
Great video! Where did you get your tube canopy system & fittings that the shades are connected to?
I live in San Bernardino County and the sun is horribly aggressive. I think this is what I need.
What are you using to support the shade cloth?
Here in Hawaii, I'm needing shade cloth despite high temperature only in the high 80s or very low 90s. The sun is too strong during the summer time. Especially my cucumbers and squash leaves were wilting and burning despite moist soil.
Any tips for buying, or setting up a metal structure like the one you have? Are you still liking the 40% aluminet best?
lol, you must have lived in a nice area in California. I live in Visalia (Southern Valley) and its always going over 100 degrees, day in and day out.
So far our gardens are going very good in our Hot weather in California, we have lots of tips too, more hot weather coming this week.
We live in Visalia, too.
Hi John, is there a reason to use 1 inch pipe vs 1/2 inch?
Great Video! Thanks! What kind of poles are your 1" metal poles? Any suggestions where to look for them. Having a hard time finding them in the area of Texas I'm in. Aloha
Do you have any ideas on plant therapy?
I live out in Phoenix, ive been using a regular 30 precent shade cloth, it seems to protect my foliage but my flower production seems to be reduced, i didnt know about the aluminet shade cloth definitely gonna try that, the only one i see on Amazon is 70 precent is that too much?
Anyone else immediately think of Pauly Shore when you watch his videos? 🤔
But seriously, thank you for the informative videos.
Do you have a link to the shade cloth you prefer? And would you change any of your recommendations if using the shade cloth over a green house?
Excellent knowledge, thanks again.
Can you please talk about whether these different materials degrade? In our part of the Sonoran Desert, the high heat, intense UV and winds dry things out super fast, and they breakdown and become pollutants. There is plastic everywhere here already.
AHJ George I live in the Chihuahua desert. I have had the big box store light colored tan and dark green shade cloth for over 5 years. I prefer the tan, but neither are in decline. Because of our winds, I find a frame is necessary. I use a soldering iron to put holes in the cloth. It acts like a plastic and fuses together. I use Dacron type cords to tie to the frame. I tried stapling it a few times, but again the winds would pull those out. 73
My 2 year old shade cloth (black one) has not degraded yet. I suppose it depends on the quality of the cloth. If is not UV treated (or uses inferior treatment) it will break down more quickly. Most plastic at some point will break down. If this is your highest concern, you can use something like white sheets, or burlap that may shade more or less.
Do you have an update video on the aluminate shade cloth? Making my purchase if it went well for you.
Is the shade cloth fabric tight enough to keep bugs out ? I used a bug net last year and it worked perfect but the plants still get fried in the texas heat. Also wonder if it would be ok to completely in close my raised bed with this shade cloth like I did the bug net or if it will keep the heat trapped inside ?
What is the temperature tool used in video? Just bought Aluminet!
Curious what the temperature was or tends to get to. I'm also in the desert in triples in june - aug. working on growing zucchini and cantaloupe.
John, very informative video, thank you!! Do you have a link for where to buy the framework corners you showed?
Do you have a video to show your shade cloth frames?
Where did you find those EMT conduit couplings?
180 degrees in the Arizona direct sun i used an IR gun. Some yards get direct sun 12 hours a day enough to kill a agave plant or a barrel cactus
With all the uvc this vid is great thanks john it gets to 113 here ,seaweed and goo goo juice helps the stress also
I don't see on Amazon the 40% Aluminat??? If you could send me the link it would be greatly appreciated:0)
Do I just put the shade cloth on top of my greenhouse or do I need to cover the sides too?
I live in texas is 9a how will the shade cloth handle rain?
Do you have a video about building the structure for your shade cloth?
Thanks for the video.
Does your shading cloth helf trap heat aswell for spring frost =prevention in desert climates?
Some greens will make bigger leaves in partial shade because they are trying to gather as many photons as they can.
Hi John .I realy enjoy watching your videos., would like to ask for your help to solve a big problem. I live in Crete Greece and want to set up a perminant shade net over my dragon fruit pantation .cause it gets very hot here in the summer.with temperatures rising up from 38°C to 45°C. So my question for you is, what would be the most ideal shade net i should be useing,a 30%,40% or 50% shade .Please help me, God Bless you and your love ones.Thank you.
Thanks for the science. You can't argue with facts.
Also, I just checked Amazon for the Aluminet shade cloth and have no idea at to select. There is a 40%. 70%, 90%, etc. Several colors as well. Can you please help narrow this down? I just received 50% agfabric and going to return it after watching this video but I need to have something to shade my veggies. Thanks!
What about cacti and succulents, young succulents ect? Also for people who have mcs, types of cloth and materials matter due to sensitivities do you know what that shade cloth is made of by chance ?
One huge item you failed to touch on, I assume because you don’t have to deal with it, but that is the humidity factor. Southern states deal with heat and humidity.
What did you use to hold up the aluminet?
Can you do a video on what plants you recommend shading, and what is ok in full sun? Thanks!
Also I'm going to try a WOVEN black shade cloth. It looks like it lets light through fine...and cheap: www.agriculturesolutions.com/dewitt-uv-pp-woven-shade-cloth-30-black-per-sq-ft
Would Turning A Empty Flower Pot Upside Down Work For Baby Plants
have you tryed red for lettuce and kale etc its said to be best for them
Is the optimal temperature for photosynthesis the same for all plants?
Hi! I live in Puerto Rico, i have succulents, what %of cloth you recommend me to protect my plants from the Summer sun?
Now a video on how did you setup your shade cloth!
You schould do a bricks test on the fruit one with and one without shadecloth you will see a big differents
My plants die w/o shade: basically 100+ degrees from late June through September. How do I do a Brix on shade tomatos vs crispy plants? Thx.
Hi dear sir. Thanks so much for such a valuable information. I want to know what material or type od shade net to use for providing darkness to poinsettias for bract coloring. Plz guide me. Thanks