Why the Sith `Chosen One' Prophecy is a Massive Mystery (Who is it?) - Star Wars Explained
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At the end of the day, Bane was the ONLY one who matched ALL the requirements. Every other Sith lord was merely a pretender. Bane was totally free of all restrictions, destroyed the Sith order and made them a thousand times stronger to the point they finally won.
Luke Skywalker in Legends (The Dark Empire and events after that) also met all of the requirements, at least from a certain point of view (as the new jedi order could be considered to be the new sith order as well).
@@kacperrutkowski6350what do you mean the new Jedi order could be considered the new sith order?the Jedi are not the sith
@@Darth_Sheepus_the_wise it really depends on which era do you mean. Ancient Jee'di as well as Legends NDE had a lot in common with some of the Sith orders. Definitely more, than with Yodas Jedi Order.
Bane thought all sith before him were pretenders but to be honest it all points down to a certain point of view ....but Palpatine was the sithari ...
@@kacperrutkowski6350 true from a certain point of view
To this day I still believe it was Anakin/Vader just for the ironic irony of both sides’ chosen one being the same person.
I agree with this too
I don't see how you can argue about Vader not being limitless and then turning around and saying it doesn't have to do with who is the most powerful. I think it is Vader as well.
Yes but Anakin still failed because it was ultimately Ray who put an end to the sith Anakin was just the beginning although yes he was the chosen one it was Ray who finished the sith
Maybe it's like he said in the video there are multiple chosen who make up for the single prophecy of bringing balance to the force maybe it wasn't just that there was a chosen one but ultimately specific people and certain events that transpire to fulfill this prophecy
Also if you think about it the sith are still out there because there is still a planet that no one knows about full of sith so maybe the prophecy has more to do with them and with how Anakin brought balance on mordis
Anakin Skywalker was the chosen one for the Jedi and Darth Vader was the chosen one for the Sith. Anakin fulfilled the prophecy when he regained control over Darth Vader and destroyed the most powerful Sith Lord in history. When Darth Vader took control he destroyed everywhere he went. He helped Palpatine take complete control of the entire galaxy. Anakin and Vader may be the same person physically but both characters are definitely different.
As much as i would like to think it was Sidious just on raw power. I think Bane really was it with all he did it really led to the Sith being reimagine, more powerful, then ruling without resistance for a time. He covered all the bases
Could it be because none of the Sith trusted one another? They were in constant conflict for dominion. So if one of them had a true vision of the Sith'ari, why would they share such an accurate vision?
Darth Sidious believed he was the Sith'ari, because he was the culmination of the Rule of Two.
The fact is the Sith'ari and the Jedi Chosen One were one and the same: Anakin and Vader!
Anakin was never meant to be Jedi or Sith, he was the Force's Chosen One!
Both foresaw him through the lens of their own beliefs!
While the main part of the Chosen One prophecy is that they will bring Balance to the Force. The main part of the prophecy of the Sith’ari is that they will destroy the Sith and make it stronger than ever. Palpatine (not Anakin/Vader) created the Empire which last awhile 1 generation and was plagued by war of some kind throughout. So it’s stretch to even say that this even works backwards for the prophecy.
Damn…
I believe this as well!
Think about it, what Anakin decides to do in that moment before choosing, ultimately fulfills either prophecy true!
Had he chose the Jedi their prophecy of ending the sith pretty much comes when they need it the most! (When sidious is already nearing his endgame)
(And the sithari obviously isn’t sidious if he needed anakin to help him get an edge on mace..)
Which brings us to anakin’s choice…
He chose the sith and allowed the sith to actually take advantage in the galaxy and remade the sith by allowing them to live like the Jedi in the open, and had the Jedi running in the shadows living like rats…
No he was NOT what the sithari should be by definition, but he is ultimately the sword they got dealt..
Bane was the creator,
Meaning he created the path for the rise of the sithari..
Sidious was the heir,
Meaning he set himself up to take over the galaxy once the sithari rose… (which sidious believed was himself)
But anakin was the sithari!
And ultimately it was his choice and decision that day that made sure either way he chose a prophecy would be fulfilled..
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Well technically anakin did destroy the sith, and even though he didn’t rebuild it stronger, it did survive…
I agree that there are numerous things that doesn’t line up with anakin as far as the sithari goes.. however;
As someone else pointed out, the sith were known to lie, cheat, and kill each other over small things…
Do you really think anyone of the sith that had visions of the sithari would actually give exact and accurate details if say they saw that the sithari would be a whiny little boy with great power? Or say the first human to win a pod race? Or that the boy would be born with no father? These are things that would prove they themselves are not the true sithari… so wouldn’t you expect a cult full of lying, cheating, murderous people…
To claim they’re “chosen one” as a bad ass that nobody could ever live up to…?
Then even the worthy lords like Bane, you still have something to point out and prove they are not the “sithari” because the definition is set by foresight that doesn’t exist…
@@jamesirons963 Most all Sith were on a massive ego trip, true. But, one fulfilling a prophecy in one’s own mind or partially fulfilling such or setting up your own self-fulfilling version of it and fulfilling that or kinda fulfilling a prophecy from a certain point of view is not the same as actually fulfilling prophecy.
At the end of the day, most people’s preferred version of prophecy too often just means profit for someone/s.
If you have a prophecy, then in order for it to be truly fulfilled it must be seen without any filters, as it was given.
Anakin/Vader fulfilled the Chosen One prophecy. His progeny kept it. But, he in no way beyond one line fulfilled the prophecy of the Sith’ari. “He will destroy the Sith” isn’t enough.
I feel like the sith have a theme of rebirth. So it always confused me why people think there is only one Sith'ari. it makes sense that there would be multiple throughout history, destroying and remaking them as they see fit. After all sith titles should be taken not given.
That is a bit ironic, since the original Sith'ari was given that title by the priests on Korriban.
Reborn Krayt matched Legends Luke!
@@DKforever24 To be fair though, the title didn't exist before then, and it was only granted because of what was achieved, the Sith united for the first time in history, lead by a king who destroyed all who opposed him, if ever there was a time for a title to be made for such a person, it would be then.
I'm pretty sure it was confirmed to be Darth Bane.
But personally I think it was Darth Sidious or Tenebrae since I feel they reached the closest to perfection that the Sith desired.
I love the idea of the Sith'ari being which ever Sith is strongest to claim the Title for themselves, it is such a Sith way and i'd also add Darth Nox would definitely lay claim to the Sith'ari mantle (mine would).
It is Darth Bane
While I do subscribe to the idea that Darth Bane was the Sith'ari, I feel compelled to mention that he did have limits. The most prominent being his body. As he got older and as his power in the Dark Side grew, his body began to break down, manifesting as and uncontrollable palsy in his hand from time to time. Even he knew that he could not stop this and that his body would only continue to falter as time went on. He did attempt to circumvent this via Essence Transfer, but that ultimately failed to do anything but manifest the Palsy in Zannah.
I would rather say that he was free of restrictions, but not of limits.
It was outright confirmed that it’s bane
Bane is he. Simple
where?@@jakealter5504
@@jakealter5504 What specifically confirmed this, and also I prefer to think that the title would be something that can be claimed by those Sith who are most fitting to do so. As that fits the theme for the Sith the most. Being an overlord, one without limits, who destroys and yet makes the Sith stronger, there are many who have done this, some more than others, but the question remains, why would the Sith'ari be something that cannot be claimed by those worthy enough of it?
@@darkrite9000 it’s because bane actually met the conditions stated by the prophecy
Maybe the real Sithari was the friends we made along the way.
Try the friends we betrayed along the way.
I think Revan was the chosen one of the Force, not the Sith or Jedi. Bane is the most likely candidate for Sith Chosen One. Sidious had limits, he just didn't believe he had them.
As Keria had said, looking at Revan was like looking at the Force itself. Both the dark and the light, Revan was also insanely powerful, being basically on par with Vitiate in terms of the force, and exceeding him in terms of capability as a duelist. Sure, when Revan first encountered him, he lost, the second time he also lost, but I imagine it was a lot closer. The third time, he lost, but only because he was betrayed, if not for that then he probably would've won even if Scourge didn't help, but it was Scourge's actions which lead to Revan losing yet again.
@@darkrite9000 Yeah bro I know all of this already. I too am a man of culture 😂
I think Revan WAS the sithari
As TSW concludes the title sithari functions more as the values a true sith should uphold in the same way the title of mandalore serves to embody the values of mandalorians.
I dont remember if it was TSW or someone in the comment section, but someone had the idea that revans rule of 2 was his master plan to destroy the sith and the jedi.
From this perspective, revans rule of two ultimately led to the best ideals of both light and dark to be embodied by luke and his new order.
Luke represents the sith and jedi remade.
After more thought I've changed my mind
I do not think Revan was the sithari because i think his contribution to the sith was actually taught to him his master, Kreia, Darth Treya
Kreia Literally resurrected and made stronger some of the greatest sith lords of all time and her teachings are what lead to revan and the rule of 2 adopted by Bane
While it is a stretch, i believe Kreia did lead and destroy the sith in that revans actions were mostly by her design
Also I feel like a "true" sith actually wouldnt actively be trying to serve the darkside, since the nature of those who wield it are only concerned with their own power
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If the Sith'ari was to destroy then resurrect the Sith to be more powerful, I'm of the opinion it was Darth Bane because he destroyed the brotherhood of darkness and resurrected the name Darth. Yet to be free of limits, it doesn't mean he escaped death, but went beyond to preserve the order, I think. Knowing Darth Bane had the orbalisk armor to preserve himself to teach Darth Zannah until she was deemed acceptable to replace him, again, I think that would fulfill the prophecy. This is a hunch knowing the Darth Bane trilogy. Even though there were Darths before Bane, I think of him as the founder of the Rule of Two and how much that was key to the Jedi's downfall. It's speculative theory but I think it's something noteworthy.
To be honest, the only Sith who could be said to come close to being "with out limit", would be Vitiate, but even he did not fit the other criteria.
A true singular Sithari would need to be able to hold the same power as Vitiate, able to casually create entire pocket realities, as well as rule the sith and remake them better than before.
Sidious was not without limit, nor did he remake the sith, or destroy them.
Bane was also not without limit, but he did destroy and remake the sith...
Vitiate, was without limit, but he cared not for the sith or jedi, and had no intention to remake them.
*Vader* as Anakin, *is* without limit, but he only destroyed the sith and did not remake them.
Sidious was the sithari... vitiate thought himself a god ... sidious is the most powerful sith ...
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Vitiate was Sith, and he left their Order with many of their teachings. A sith becoming a god could be seen as "without limit"
If it was anyone surely it's vitiate
Vader/Skywalker is the only Sith to become a force ghost, even the limits of the body were overcome.
@@tibitzu365 Marka Ragnos and Darth Maar both became force ghosts long before Anakin.
There were many. Great show!
Make a video about Exar Kun prophecy and Ragnos' grand design and how they compare to Sith'ari prophecy?
I really like your theory!
The night sisters stated That a perfect being will embody the balance between the winged Goddess and Fanged God. And Anakin, when he was known as Darth Vader.
I enjoy these videos
Before watching this video I would have said Sidious was the Sith Chosen and Anakin the Jedi Chosen, and Anakin fulfilled the prophecy by killing Sidious (a very Sith thing to do, even though he was the Jedi Chosen).
However, after watching the video, I like you theory of cyclical Sith'ari. Since the midichlorians remain in the universe, and free will to chose light or dark also remains, it makes more sense that the battle would have to be fought over and over again. Maybe not every single generation, but certainly multiple times.
Great work, as always, thank you.
Except he didn’t kill Sidious and Sidious wiped out the Jedi including the entire Skywalker bloodline with granddaughter now running the order. I would say the clear choice is Sidious here
"A prophecy that miss interpetted could have been" love Yoda's lines.
Your final point reminds me of the line from an author i used to follow.
"I am the chosen because I choose to be"
I'd say you hit the nail on the head with this video but I have to say I really enjoy watching your channel and I particularly love the videos you make about Anakin Skywalker
I wish that Star wars would show more about his birth and his life growing up now that would be a great show
Or perhaps a movie on the shadows of the empire
It seems like the Star wars movies are based around the prophecy of Anakin Skywalker his life and the events that transpired during his lifetime and his childrens life and aftermath of their life and everything that happened during that time
I just wish that Star wars would delve more into these so-called Star wars prophecies that would make for an incredible story
Maybe Star wars is piecing together a story of the force because if you think about it the actions of Anakin and many of the events are not as much as Anakin Skywalker's fault but it is just the will of the force because Anakin truly was the chosen one because if you think about it the Jedi and the sith were in the wrong because they were both tainted and disrupted by the actions of each other so kind of like in the sense of the biblical Great flood Anakin was purifying the Galaxy of these tainted Force users by killing off the Jedi and ending the sith but failed as sidious still had clones of himself but then Anakin grandchildren ended this along with sidious granddaughters rey and then the Skywalker family dies thus ending the prophecy and the forces will with these offspring of anakin
What an interesting video
_Five_ candidates were named @ 6:36! Not four. Plus, in a way, Darth Palpatine _did_ destroy the Sith. First, by establishing their splinter faction, the First Order, led by Supreme Leader Snoke. Then, by tricking _his own grandson_ into destroying them! All before luring Ren and Rey to Exegol (the post-Endor name for Korriban) where the True Sith were awaiting to unleash the Black Fleet upon the rest of the galaxy.
I feel like the Sith chosen one was maybe Vader/Anakin. And this is to my knowledge, so correct if any of my knowledge is wrong.
Reason for Vader/Anakin: Anakin, is a Mortis God now, he can be light or dark in this god form
Also happy new year to all of the Jedi, Sith, and other force users in the galaxy
What if it’s Abeloth? Since some Sith survived Darth Krate, she, as the closest living-thing to the dark-side itself, could destroy the Sith and remake them (as a pawn, but still remake them, unlimited by their doctrines and practices, using them for her own goals, embodying narcissism and selfish-desire), and the prophesy never said it had to be a typical being. Anyway, this is beginning to be a creepy thought, so I’m shutting up now. 😂
Your premise is nice,with multiple choices hypotheses.However there was a Sith’Ari that almost fully blossomed.That what Exar Kun was,with Ulic Qel-Droma as his Apprentice.Remember Exar Kun was mortally injured on Koribban by the Entity of Freedon Nadd.The Ancient Sith Lords combined their powers to fully heal Exar Kun with Darkside energy and strength.The Sith’Ari has to be someone the can perfectly heal through evil energy.Darth Bane,Darth Plagueis,Vicient,Tulak Horde,Marka Ragnos,Darth Sidious,Darth Revan and Darth Vader.None of them could do this to satisfaction.That’s why Master Arca upon sensing Exar Kun’s Evil Rejuvenation,said it was potentially the end of the Galaxy.The Whole Jedi Order had to combine their energy to destroy Exar Kun’s mortal body in time on Yavin 4.Before his strength,energy,body and skill powered him to Immortality.The fact that as a trapped Entity on Yavin 4,that could still disintegrate living Jedi flesh 4 Millennia’s later proves his potency.As Jedi Grandmaster Luke Skywalker later discovered with missing Jedi that didn’t return from Yavin.
serious question here but what about Exar Kun? Even if he wasn't a Sith, he still transformed a lot of what future Sith could/would become to some degree. I wonder why he was left out of this video. If i'm missing something, let me know. :)
Anybody seen the recently released clone wars animation - Revenge of the Sith duel? -
Anakin Skywalker vs Obi Wan
On Mustufar.
If you havent it was released just yesterday and its awesome! Fanmade, but it still works!
Its funny since there is fluff that says the ancient Rakata gave the red skinned race on Korraban the name Sith and gave Ada his title of Darth. For you see Sith means 'Betrayers' in Rakata and Darth means 'King or Lord of the Betrayers'. It wasn't even necessarily meant as an insult, for the Rakata respected the Sith's power and connection to Dark Side. That also means Sith'ari would translate to something along the lines of 'Betrayer of All and Lord of All Betrayers'.
Maybe it’s something future films will explore on
By the argument presented here, I think Stupendous placing Darth Bane as the Sith'ari is extremely merited and probably correct. I love how at the end of the video, it discusses the idea that Sith'ari could be a taken title every thousand or so years. That's exactly how I envisioned it. This would be an incredible story arc of potential for Lucasfilm to look into for the future. As in Star Wars stories of the deeper future. The new Star Wars show "Acolyte" takes place 100 years before Episode 1. And the upcoming film project "The First Jedi" is supposed to be 25,000 years before Episode 1. So, what about centuries or millennium after Episode 9???
This Sith'ari prophecy arc could be a key to properly expanding this timeline and galaxy.
Any Sith that rebuilds the Sith stronger can be a Sith'ari, Ajitia Pal, Exer kun, Valkorian, Or Darth Krait all could be Sith'ari as well. Darth Bane is a Sith'ari it doesn't make him the only one. Darth Traya could even fit the role of Sith'ari as she did rebuild them.
I don't think Vader, Sidous, or Raven exactly fit. Where Sidous is strong on his own I don't see how he made the Sith stronger(unless you count converting the chosen ONE, but it didn't have last), he does fit other two of the freedom and destroying them ok.
"Who was the dark mirror to Anakin Skywalker?"
Pretty sure that'd be Darth Vader.
1:40 where are these 2 cut scenes from? I need to know
The old republic cinematic
Its is Bane no mystery at all. Literally he is the Sith ari it is not a debate
I believe that the force dark /light create a chosen one at different times based on how out of balance the force is
After reading the Darth Bane novels, I would say it is him. Another great video and happy New Year!
Jar jar banks should be considered as well 😂
I'm surprised that Exar Kun isn't brought up.
This is really off topic but something I found kind of interesting. The theory that the sith ari is a title held by whoever was required to hold it at the time is very similar to a theory of a real prophecy concerning the anti-christ. Many people like to use the tile of “anti-christ” to describe a particular political figure they don’t like, but some people speculate that every generation has an anti-christ but only one is the one prophesied of in the Bible. The reasoning is that only God the father knows when the Day of the Lord will occur and only Him. No one, not even Satan knows the day. So in the meantime Satan works in the background of the world with a certain figurehead under his direct influence at any given time. This idea is in line with his past actions as he is seen being the force behind the king of Tyre in Ezekiel 28. A notable example of a potential anti-christ was emperor Nero of the Roman empire and his bloodthirsty persecution of the church and evident madness. Again, completely random and off topic, but interesting nonetheless lol
I think Sideous is the Sith'ari, as a) he cast aside the rule of two by creating the inquisitors, and b) he literally resurrected the Sith from the dead by successfully pulling off essence transfer after dying. Vader and Sideous were the last of the Sith, and when Vader returned to the light this left only Sideous. Hence, by his own resurrection the Sith were resurrected as well. The Sith then continued on Exogul where Sideous began his renaissance supported by his dark side servants and cultists. By the end of Rise of Skywalker, he embodied the sum total of all Sith efforts, resources, and knowledge that had contributed to his grand plan to rule the galaxy. He was the most powerful Sith of all time, but unfortunately was undone by Rey's plot armor.
These are the stories they should've made the newer movies about. So much amazing material to go off of.
It was anakin there is a comic were he is called that getting the power gem for the death star
I mean with palpatine you can say the sith ended with his arrogance which led to his death and was rebuilt by his cloning program (legends) which led to the eventual formation of the One sith
I would like to think to a certain extent mace windu was that prophecy and I got a few things for that reason
Right when I clicked on the video a ad poped up that said join the dark side on galaxy of heroes star wars game. Not lying
i think the ideal answer is that we havent had it yet and we could get a really good movie/game/show out of the concept
or swtor gets its act together and its malgus
As your ending implies; who knows what Darth Malgus has in store? Can he be in the running?
Agreed.
In the EU marka ragnos choosed tenebrae and exar kun because he thought they were the chosen one, because of how powerful they were but the first sith ari was king adas who was believed to be a decender of a sith god probably the son or one of his out spring, if it wasn't for ulic qel droma betrayal exar kun would had destroyed the jedi the republic restored the sith and become a sith god
I'm going with Bane, and one of the best trilogies ever and should be a movie
Whoever becomes the strongest. It is the core of the Sith belief. Each one leaving their discoveries building to become strong and the strongest discovers a way to be strongest finding one that is stronger to take and pass it on.
Anakin is both the sithari and the chosen one as he brought the order both Jedi and sith to new limits throughout boths destruction, enabling a new era of balance for the galaxy.
Thats what I would like. Anakin would have been both the light and the dark. He would combine the 2, reforming both the jedi and sith order. But Sidious was so strong that he changed fate.
@@SupChad735 Sidius was being used by the force. The force needed Sidius to break Anakin so he would destroy both the sith and Jedi and usher in a new order of the galaxy. Sidius was actually the ultimate pawn for the force or the wills
@@BringeroftheNight I thought it was stated that Plagues and Sidious became so powerful that they actually started to altered fate. Its the whole reason why Anakin was made in the first place, Plagues and Sidious became to powerful and the will of the force fought back.
In my own head cannon, I would like to think that Anakins true purpose was to take the fathers place on Mortis. But because the will of the force was broken so much by the sith, that it altered Anakins decision to stay.
The jedi would fall due to Sidious, but Sidious would die from the father (Anakin) once the power tipped so far to one side. The father even says the Mortis gods only ever interfere once balance is to far gone.
Again, in my head cannon, Luke was the forces last ditch effort in restoring balance. Whiles hes not the chosen one, hes the next best thing. I understand leia is force sensitive, but I would like to think Luke is the one that inherited the true power to restore balance.
And if we want to tie in the squeals trilogy, then I think the only reason the sith were almost able to rise again is because the force no longer has the ability to have balance. Think about it, the father, daughter, and brother are dead. The beings that where meant to keep balance or at least some semblance of balance no longer exists. All again stemming from the Siths manipulation over the fate of the galaxy
@@SupChad735 George Lucas said Anakin is the chosen one, it's also worth noting Luke is supposed to be George Lucas himself which is why he's named after him. It's his story and the only way to truly grasp star wars is through his lens
@@BringeroftheNight Its no longer George's story tho. There has been more content made under Disney than there was Lucasfilm. Im also not saying Anakin isnt the chosen one. My point being that Luke was the forces last effort to correct fate. To make Anakin finally fulfill his prophecy and bring balance.
I believe abeloth fits in this category despite not been trained by the sith, also her overwhelming power.
I would have to say that Band it the true Sithari. The final chapter of Dynasty of Evil implies that Bane's power in the force was far greater than we were lead to believe.
The Sithari = Darth Jar Jari! Yousa knows it to be truw! Searches your feelings!
Who was The Dark Mirror to Anakin Skywalker? Anakin himself
Bob Iger is the chosen one of the Sith
bru why
No, he destroyed the Sith but never made them better.
To me it is KK
he is a Sith Lord that is true and KK is another
You mean Darth Kennedy
It’s not a mystery anakin refused to join the three and upset the balance that’s why aboloyth can in in legacy of the force and the children of the sithe and Jedi are continuing in battle at the end. Spoiler alert on the books
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The sith ari has absolutely got to be the “rule of 2” that rule being out in place basically did exactly what the sith chosen one was supposed todo though sidous was the only Sith Lord to reach the super high power across the galaxy.. but without the rule of 2 this would’ve never been able to happen.. and because the sith chosen one has been fulfilled around this time then the Jedi chosen one also was being fulfilled at the same time with anakin transforming into Vader fulfilling that prophecy.
Well you have to remember that the prophecy doesn't specify what order these events will take place in or their context. The prophecy referred to the Sith as a people, and not the exiled Jedi Schismatics who would become the Lords of the Sith. So the prophecy may literally revolve around the Sith race and not the Sith Order.
However, if we are to assume that the prophecy was about the Sith Order and not the Sith race and that the prophecy came to pass with the destruction of the last vestiges of the original Sith Order with the deaths of Sidious and Vader, then it makes sense for Anakin to be the Sith'ari if we view his accomplishments individually.
As Darth Vader, Anakin publically lead the Sith as Palpatine never announced himself as Force-sensitive or as a Sith Lord even after becoming Emperor, but Anakin was a known member of the Jedi and anyone with knowledge of the Sith would have immediately recognized him as one once he became Darth Vader, but he also destroyed the Sith twice over; once by killing Dooku, and another by killing Palpatine and dying.
On that note, Anakin resurrected the Sith Order that seemingly died with Dooku and managed to establish a new galactic Sith Empire, and he ultimately planned to kill Palpatine, supplant his role as Emperor, and secure the Skywalker line as the rulers of the galaxy, and in a way the Jedi Order that Luke created later were just better because they weren't traditional Jedi or Sith but instead organically taught Force users, i.e. stronger and better Sith, and as a byproduct of Anakin's lineage, it could be said that Anakin created the new Jedi Order.
While alive as Darth Vader, Anakin obviously had limits, but upon his death, he found peace and became one with the Force as a Force Ghost, meaning he truly has no limits, or at least none of the limits of his mortal body.
You can also entertain the notion that Luke is also the Chosen One of the Sith and Jedi prophecies, but having it be Anakin and not relying extensively on the Legends continuity after the conclusion of Return of the Jedi and the loaded question of whether either prophecy had been fulfilled makes more sense to me when viewing Return of the Jedi itself as the natural end of the Star Wars narrative.
Darth Bane is the Sitharry, their chosen one, it says so in the opening pages of the 3rd Darth Bane Novel
The whole misunderstanding of the "chosen one" os that he would be either dark or light but the force otself was indifferent to the two fanatical camps.
I think Bane was the Sith'Ari but Palpatine was the one to complete it regarding the Sith GrandPlan 🔥
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The only person who fits this description is ray from the Disney cannon. She’s related to palpatine and she’s apparently gods gift
To the force since according to Disney she’s the most powerful anything
Its Jar Jar of course
I thought the Sith species went extinct just after Ajunta Pall founded the Sith order on Korriban in 6,900 BBY.
Some of this involves using Cannon so , please bear with me .
Like what your thoughts in the early part of video suggests to me is , what if the chosen one prophecy for both he light and the dark sides are just skewed interpretations of the same prophecy ? In that case , the chosen one that destroyed the Sith was a Skywalker , it just wasn’t Anakin . The Skywalker that I speak of that destroyed the Sith was Rey Skywalker . She fought the Emperor and turned his own power on him , to take him and all of the Sith followers that he had gathered that temple on Exogol , and destroyed the Sith order . That made her the Jedi Chosen One .
I’m one who will be the first to say I don’t not know everything about the lore and what not for star wars but if I had to pick I’d say Reven was but idk. I knows there to the two different prophecies but idk to much about the Sith prophecy
I'd like to propose a dark horse candidate - Kreia. She inspired Reven to become a Sith, then built the Sith Triumvirate (which all but destroyed the Jedi) then betrayed them and orchestrated their destruction. While she is definitely not the most powerful, she definitely rejected limits in her philosophy and goals.
I don't think the Sith'ari exists yet. I don't think any of the previous ones fit the bill. We may see the chosen one of the Sith post Skywalker era.
To paraphrase Yoda, prophecies can be misinterpreted.
Regardless of who the "Chosen One" was, Sidious not only believed it to be Anakin but was arrogant enough to think that he could control the conflicted Jedi. Had Anakin not been weakened he most certainly would have made a move against the Emperor.
I guess where I'm going with this is that the prophecy surrounding Anakin was always going to be self defeating. Two sides laying claim to someone who is so powerful with an arrogance to match it, yet so conflicted while being laser focused on what he wanted, was never going to end well.
The Jedi Order recognized his power but refused to give him special treatment. Sidious understood what Anakin could become and was willing to take the chance because "unlimited power."
As an aside, could it be argued that Anakin himself fulfilled the Sith version of the prophecy? By "destroying" himself, he in a sense destroyed the Sith. Then he "rebuilt" the Sith by becoming a new version and embodiment of them. This is really stretching things but does it work? He was the Chosen for both Jedi and Sith and fulfilled both prophecies. Being redeemed by Luke was the final piece. Or perhaps it was irrelevant.
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I personally believe that the Sith'ari was Lord Radas/Darth Imperious. Never heard of him? I thought not. It's not a story the archives would tell you; it's a fanon legend. Lord Radas was a Pureblooded Sith descendent of Adas born during the Great Galactic War. Starting out in the Sith Academy as a former slave, his conversations with its instructor Lord Abaron would convince him that the Sith Order had become tainted by its inclusion of other species, such as humans, and sought to reestablish the old Sith Kingdom, starting by weeding out the corruption and infighting in Vitiate's Sith Empire. Through his machinations during the Galactic Cold War, and subsequent war, he rose to the Dark Council and was given the title of Darth Imperious.
Little is known of him after that other than whispers of him establishing a Pact with Lord Scourge, Lord Praven, and Lord Abaron, who along with him disappeared from galactic records sometime after.
...that is, until the Legacy Era, after the Fall of Darth Krayt's One Sith, but that's another story.
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Its been a long time since i read the eu books but wasnt there some thing about how a true sith defeats death and thats were the word darth comes from
I would make the argument that the Chosen One was meant to destroy both the Jedi and the Sith, not rebuild them personally but rather enable them to be rebuilt in the future by those who come after them.
Darth Vader is being shown here but .... The Sith Ari was Darth Bane for sure.
Bane got rid of the pretenders, did away with the issues that plagued the sith for eons like infighting and scheming against their own progress.
Reducing the order to two members at a time, and putting a cease to weaker members ganging up on Masters and beating Masters that way.
A Master to embody the power of the darkside and one apprentice to crave it, and that apprentice can only become Master by putting His or Her Master down in a " fair one " (fair fight) as we call it around the way in nyc . Bane established all this. And in 1,000 yrs Bane's order took the galaxy via Darth Sidious and Darth Vader. And..... It did appear Darth Bane rid Himself of His personal restrictions.
P.S. Darth Bane also even reinstituted the Darth title which the Brotherhood of darkness was afraid to use.
It would be holarrious if the choshen one was not the one to bring balance to the force., As fall as we know, Anakin could have been manufactured by palpatine to have high metaclorian count., or did he create the chosen one on purpose ?? in his investigation on how many metaclorias do you need to become a force sensative creature
Anakin was the chosen one because he gave birth to Leia and Luke. And those two siblings defeated the emperor....twice. so yeah, he was the chosen one.
I would LUV to see Zack Snyders cut of the Darth Bane saga
13:05 What if every Sith in the line of Bane is the new Sithari?? Think about it. Every sith apprentice is supposed to learn from their master until their own power eclipses the masters. Then they strike down their master, destroying the sith as it was, and rebuilding it stronger with the next apprentice.
If only starkiller was Cannon lol he still didn't destroy the sith be he sure as heck almost did. And he definitely seemed to be free of limits when it came to pretty much everything
The real sithari is the friends we made along the way.
Reborn Krayt is the goat and matched Legends Luke in power level!
If you twist it, Sidious can still be the Ari. He killed plenty of Sith brothers both directly and indirectly. He controlled the Republic and turned it into his Empire, freeing himself from laws. The only thing that could stop him was a rebellion. He definitely made the Sith stronger than before. And, he rose Anakin from the ashes as Vader. Yes, this is twisting events and stretching the events, but it still fits.
I, Darth Cuddlefluff, am the Sith'ari.
I'm not 100% sure, in my opinion, if the Sith Ari's 2nd coming was just a singular Sith. But if there was only one, it would be Bane. But like I said, I agree the Sith Ari can happen more than once.
If im not wrong, if Star Wars continues to have stories, novels coming out there is always going to be a battle between light and dark🤨
It's not a mystery. It was Anakin. He brought balance to the Force by killing both the Jedi and the Sith. Not how either side expected it to go but prophecies are tricky like that.
Until Kathleen Kennedy ruined everything
So basically the Sitharai prophecy is like the ancient sith's king Arthur myth of a mighty warrior and ruler, who would return to lead his people once again in a time of great need, even after death.
It was always Bane. Hands down. Sidious was super jelly of that fact😎
Kylo Ren could’ve been the one if not for Ruin johnson, KK and Disney. Screw em. Imagine the holocrons he pursued early in the third movie turn out to be Darth Bane’s, Revan’s and many of the ancient Sith lords and he convince them to teach him everything.
To this day I say it is still darth vader/anakin. He destroyed the sith, and the new sith that arose years later strived for the power of vader. He may not have layed out his own order....but it was forged nearly in his image as other sith would use vader and sidious as an outline of how to totally fulfill the grand plan. Those sith were also some of the strongest in history, and the dark side powers shown by the Skywalker bloodline rivaling any of the previously mentioned sithari outside of maybe vitiate. To conclude this thought, anakin and vader are the only being shown to actually master and simultaneously use the full force for more than an instant.
If it's mirrors. Definitely bane. If it's irony. Vader specifically because if he didn't attack the raiders. Krayt might not have been. And caused the mass betrayal