Filmmaker reacts to Mad Max Beyond Thunderdome (1985) for the FIRST TIME!
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- Опубліковано 9 сер 2022
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People, including myself, were expecting another action franchise sequel without much to it when this came out. Turned out to be a total art piece with a fantastic script and direction. Two thumbs.
Some fans STILL hated it, because it spent all its time exploring Miller's world-building (to answer the questions some first-timers had after Road Warrior), and saved all its road-rage action for the end....Stupid ol' plot. 😝
Yeah, it was definitely quite a turn in terms of what we were expecting but it was still really good and REALLY fleshed out the world a lot. And damn if it doesn't look amazing.
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I feel like the Mad Max trilogy established the comedic and brutal satire of a post apocalyptic desert wasteland. Games like the Fallout series take a huge amount of inspiration, esthetic and clever satirical writing and concepts from the Mad Max trilogy in my opinion. It's such a cult classic series because of this and I think it's easily forgotten because of how established the concepts became in the video game era.
Mad Max is in Fallout 1. Well, it's implied as he is killed and you get his dog.
Not to mention Hokuto no Ken (Fist of the North Star) is also based off Mad Max, the MC Kenshiro was even styled to look like Mel Gibson!
Yes, it basically defined the genre and it's impossible to get away from it.
A bit like what Sergio Leone defined the modern western, you couldn't make a western after that that was not under his shadow.
There IS a Mad Max video game, published in 2015, made by Avalanche Studios and I believe both George Miller and Brendan McCarthy (a British comic book artist responsible for all the designs in Fury Road from cars to pole vault dudes to decorations etc) were involved in the game. It kinda went under unnoticed, probably cause people assumed it's a cheapo movie tie-in but it's a pretty damn good open world game with lots of driving, car combat, convoy takedown missions, conquering enemy camps etc.
Is it a 10/10? No, but it's a very strong 8/10 game with some awesome moments, lots of action and very nicely crafted world. Just go take a look at the trailer. Despite being 7 years old I think it still holds up and I wish more people knew about it and played it.
As for the movie? I like it. I didn't like it at first but it grew on me over the years and on some days I think PARTS of this movie do a better job of establishing a world than 2nd movie.
I do love 1st and 4th the most though.
Came to say this. I never played it, but there was a Mad Max game that looked fantastic and I've heard nothing but good things from those that have played it.
Agreed. Not a 10/10, but one I enjoyed thoroughly.
The biggest problem with that game is that it released on the same day as MGS5, and few weeks before Fallout 4.
@@rorywalsh1985 okay yeah, that could ruin the sales of almost any game.
@Darkstar Agreed, I found myself exploring and doing every side quest I could find, collecting items, taking over land and driving just to explore the beauty of the world before I was even anywhere near the middle of the story xD
Very few games get me so captured and immersed as the Mad Max game. Even the fighting mechanics is something oddly enjoyable if someone had fun with the Batman Arkham games and with the Sleeping Dogs.
Different character, same actor. Bruce Spence. He was also in the Matrix trilogy as the Train Man.
I'm an old timer who was a child myself seeing this movie for the first time in the theatre with my dad. It was mind blowing. I watched it like a hundred times on VHS as a kid. I still listen to Tina Turner's classic song from this movie to this day. "We Don't Need Another Hero"
There is a third person open world Mad Max game (two actually, one on NES and a recent one on PS4. Totally worth owning)
That’s so damn good to hear
@@JamesVSCinema The PS4 game is an open-world game in the style of Grand Theft Auto and serves as a prequel to "Fury Road." It's awesome and should be way more well-known.
It's on Xbox also.
@@JamesVSCinema It's on PC as well and is actually a very good game.
@@jmhaces I'd argue it's a bit closer to Just Cause or Far Cry with the structure of the open world.
It is a pretty good game, and I do agree it should be more well-known.
There was a psychologist named Carl Jung. He created personality archetypes coined Jungian Archetypes. The warrior, the wanderer, the jester, the orphan, the innocent, the sage is all I can remember off the top of my head. Each character in this movie embodies one of the archetypes. I learned this when a friend of mine was assigned to determine the archetypes for a psychology class he was taking.
That’s pretty awesome. I have heard of this before but never thought to apply it to this story, which is pretty neat :)
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Coming out in 1985, Mad Max - then mostly known to people through cable if they had it and the burgeoning video rental market - was now in big budget, mainstream blockbuster territory, complete with a hit song that was all over the radio and MTV. The song would be more popular. That was the same summer as "Back to the Future" and "Rambo: First Blood, Part II."
This movie got overlooked a bit. I remember my grandfather recording on HBO and he thought it was good, but liked the 2nd one more. I love that my family loved movies too. Always was at the the theate.
You have to think of Mad Max movies as the telling of different "legends" about the same general character. That's why there isn't a seamless continuity from one film to the next, but a familiar feel and similar tropes between all of them. Glad you enjoyed another tale in the series.
Yes, Max is a character that you can assume to be a role model for somebody like Homer when he was writing his works. There's something of a post-apocalyptic Odysseus about him.
The GTA style Mad Max game they made is actually legit.
I love the line "We are dealing with subtleties here." being delivered by a slug like man with one strand of grey hair, flip up sunglasses, a medallion, and a leather vest paired with his favorite chainmail thin strap tank.
Vivid, and accurate description!
As much as I love Fury Road, an absolutely amazing piece of cinema, personally, Beyond Thunderdome is still my favorite Mad Max film. I’m a product of the 80s. I watched the Mad Max films growing up so I personal have a warm spot in my heart for Beyond Thunderdome.
The packed, bizarre worldbuilding and unique dialogue also make this one of my favorites! The action isn't as iconic, but the locations are, and this is also the most quotable of the MAX films.
I've heard that claim but Fury Road is like... infinitely quotable
How do you mean by quotable, like in terms of what? I’m genuinely interested
Unpopular opinion: this is my favorite of the Mad Max movies. It is, in fact, cool as hell.
This movie was fire. Road Warrior was my first R movie in the theater (forgot to ask mom if I could go with friend, if you catch me). This came out when I was 13. Blew me away. I remember it was all over CNN (which was pretty much the only news my grandparents watched). People in NYC were going to the theater in apocalypse cosplay. It was such a budget increase from the last and every moment was epic - the score, the cinematography. What an amazing series. So visionary and unique.
“I’m not Walker, I’m the guy who keeps Mr. Death in his pocket.”🤣
Automatically started singing 🎵We don't need another hero ...🎵
The callback to Mad Max 1 was unexpected but really ties Max' arc back around to the beginning. All his wandering to forget yet not lose himself was not for nothing.
One of the most iconic manga (and then anime) of the 80's, Hokuto no Ken (known in the west as 'Fist of the North Star') is basically Mad Max with lethal martial arts. The authors even said that one of their main source of inspiration was Mad Max 2.
As for my favorite, Mad Max 2 without a doubt. The first one was a great movie but the world was not established yet - we were on the brink of madness but we still hadn't cross the line. Thunderdome is too much... fable-ish in my opinion, although I appreciate the world building in the movie. Fury Road is GREAT and a real close second to Road Warrior.
The midget and Giant character from Hokuto No Ken second Arc also based on Thunderdome's Brain and buster character.
Have you ever seen the movie "Waterworld" I think you'll like it. It kinda feels like these movies.
I love this one. One of my all time favourite endings too.
"Ain't we a pair...raggedy man?" Man, Tina knocked this role out of the park.
I love this film and it's the best of the three. Much more well-rounded. I think I heard that a location scout was killed during filming and really depressed Miller so another person stepped in to share directing duties. I had always thought that that's why this film feels very different than the other two. Also this one finally has a super film composer making the music. Love it. And Tina's two songs are great!
Considered by many the worst, but it's first in my heart
This is my favorite of the Mad Max films. The different story lines within the one movie and the way they intertwine with great dialogue, stunts, and camera shots makes it a great ride.
I had to rewatch this after Tina Turner's passing. She was an amazing entertainer, but I'll always remember her as Auntie Entity. I was about 13 when this came out. Tina Turner in that chainmail dress made my head explode. As far as bad ass female roles of all time, she is right up there with Sarah Conner and Ellen Ripley. She was organic, with a compelling backstory. "Do you know who I was? Nobody. Except on the day after, I was still alive. This nobody had a chance to be somebody." What a line and what a delivery. That was pure humility and pure badassery at the same time. Rest in peace, Ms. Turner. From a poor girl from Brownsville, TN to a $75 million dollar chateau in Switzerland, entertaining millions along the way, you did all right.
"She's killin' it. She's killin it this role."
Tina Turner
nuff said
Best of the trilogy for me. Sure that children storyline is kinda weird, but if you look in to it, it's kinda fascinating. Not much action in this one, but it was still fun from the story perspective. I kinda see why fans of Mad Max would hate it, as the vehicle action kinda isn't there, but it's still set in such an interesting world, I just really like it. Oh, and the soundtrack? Absolutely great!
Road Warrior is my favorite, but I love this one.
These three films are for an adult audience. I watched them as a kid and found them unsatisfying despite all the great action scenes. As an adult, I can appreciate the tragedy of them.
James... there IS a third-person open world Mad Max. It's so good, you can even eat tins of Dinki Di to restore energy. 😭
That’s fire what!?
@@JamesVSCinema Here: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mad_Max_(2015_video_game)
You can drive around the world and upgrade your car, plus the melee combat is brutal: dudes shout "YER JUST A RAGGEDY MAN" as you cave their faces in.
@@JamesVSCinema Seriously though, it really captures the spirit of the films and you can buy it for next to nothing at this point. Would recommend. :)
@@Jay_The_Cat james vs games incoming? 😆
@@stefanforrer2573 I hope so. 😃
I watched this so many times as a youth. It inspires imagination, it is a unique world, and there seems to be more stories that are only hinted at. (What ever happened to the real Captain Walker? How does Auntie rebuild? )
Filmed mostly around Sydney New South Wales, Australia. Kurnell Sand hills (Desert and crashed plane) , Hombush brick pit (Thunderdome) Blue Mountains ( Kids Village / Canyon). The car/train chase scene at the end was filmed near Coober Pedy in South Australia.
Just caught me coming out of Bullet Train, you should definitely check it out!
Sweet! I feel like I’ve seen the entire movie already with all the trailers and ads 😭
"Ladies and Gentlemen...Boys and Girls... dying time is here." Loved that line.
Also, Tina Turner was smoking.
I love a reaction to Fury Road. That's one of my favorite films in the last 10 years. It's just visually so amazing, and I could kick myself I didn't see if in the theater!
Definitely look into a rewatch!
To me, this is my favorite of the series.
This was the first Mad Max movie I saw at probably too young an age. Gave me my first taste of "life after apocalypse" story. Having fruit snacks for today's view.
This is one of favourite action/adventure films from the 80's. I grew up watching the trilogy as a kid. My father proudly showed me the first two and when this arrived on video cassette, we watched it together and it totally blew my mind, and continues to get repeat viewings to this day in my household. A lot of cinephiles hail the second one as the best, but I think it is a matter of taste. I love all three for different reasons. Mad Max for establishing the character and the world. Road Warrior for upping the ante and delving deeper into that world and introducing great characters to go with it. And of course Beyond Thunderdome for creating lore inside of this incredible world, and creating an even bigger final chase from Road Warrior. Also this film is co-directed by George Oglivie because George Miller was not able to take on the full responsibility of directing after losing his friend and producing partner Byron Kennedy in a helicopter accident scouting locations for the film. That is why it says for Byron at the end of the movie.
great stuff as always, thank you, styay awesome, stay genuine.. much love
If you remember from the first movie, when Max took his family to Granny's house there was the boy with the mental challenges (or whatever the current year term is). I'm sure Max recognized this too.
Cool another Mad Max reaction. Just a quick correction. MMBT came out in 85, not 84.
Thanks for the catch! :)
FUN FACT: The reason Max didn’t kill Blaster is because he is the same guy from the first movie. The slow guy that was with the older lady they were staying with. It was an amazing call back to the humanity of Max and a reminder of his family.
4:31 there is one, simply called Mad Max, and it's quite underrated
Thunderdome is wildly underrated, but I love it. George's worldbuilding is in the process of being distilled to the pure form it became in Fury Road and while Max's plotline is basically the same as Road Warrior, he is the catalyst for so many others to become heroes with him. Max's legend lives on through those he helps, saving the best parts of himself in their stories.
There is a third person Mad Max game set around the time of Fury Road the main antagonist is Rictus' brother.
It's a cool thing you noticed about the story just flowing and not being able to really predict where it's going to go. That's George Miller's deliberate storytelling approach that he learned from Lajos Egri who proposed that well defined characters (and the setting) will drive the plot themselves and so the foundation of character is the essential germination of a well crafted story. That's why he creates huge backstories for everything we see in Mad Max films, since he can't draw from history, he makes it up himself in a believable manner for those films and the story writes itself. When he was working with Brendan McCarthy on Fury Road Brendan was worried he wouldn't know where to drive the story and George just said "The characters will tell you" and he was right.
Also, people still say that Mad Max movies don't have a continuity. It's not true. All of the movies are in sequence, it's simple as that (including Fury Road), and the world building in those films is absolutely epic. What we see through the lens is just the tip of the iceberg.
This movie is my guilty pleasure. I've watched it dozens of times.
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Your enjoyment of this film does me good, because it's my personal favorite of the series, for so many of the reasons you highlighted.
Back in.. 1984, there was an old DOS game called Flightmare (long before How to Train Your Dragon, long before any similar usage in other context). Wasn't Mad Max, but it was also set in a desert waste land post-apocalyptic world where gasoline was the precious commodity fought over by tribal factions (so pretty much Mad Max Future).
You flew a fighter plane similar to a WW2 single-engine fighter and had to gun down teams enemy bikers/planes/vehicles approaching from the left side of the map in order to protect your airfield which has your planes/lives and your factories which produce more if protected. You had to control your plane using WASD on the left side and the numpad on the right, in *2* different perspectives at the same time-vertically and "horizontally"-as well as firing and ensuring you got behind your enemies to kill them. You had limited fuel and I believe ammo. And this game was all in CGA (4-colors).
As a reviewer described, it was Road Warrior with Plans and no Lord Humongous, and this game was SO damn hard, especially once the ground stopped being flat and you could strafe into the ground at speed. (And there was no controlled timing, so the faster your computer CPU and system were clocked, the faster the game ran.)
But after the popularity of Road Warrior, tons of games, books, other films, and general media were either inspired by or wholly cribbing the Mad Max setting and themes.
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BUST A DEAL & FACE THE WHEEL
Hahahaha awesome NPC lines
It has been a joy, the mad
max films are amazing.
The Red Australian Outback - I’m sure it is what inspired the whole Mad Max concept.
My stepdad had this one in his VHS collection when I was growing up, so this was basically the only Mad Max movie that I was familiar with when growing up. For me it was the Tina Turner movie.
The one on ps4 is underrated
Not long after the film, I actually traveled to 'Bartertown,' which was shot in and around Coober Pedy. And, yeah, the place does look like something out of the apocalypse. More than half the residents live underground, due to the brutal heat and desolate conditions. It was an opal mining town, so people simply made their homes in the abandoned tunnels. I slept in the 'hotel' at the time, which was little more than a bunch of beds under a hill XD
Was allowed to watch this on my 7th birthday and it was just the coolest thing I had ever seen up to that point. This movie holds a very special place in my heart. Didn't see the first 2 till much later. Each one has its own style and pacing and could easily be stand-alone movies but Mel Gibson does a great job of linking them together with his portrayal of Max. Probably in my top 3 trilogies.
Glad you got to all 3. I think they all are amazing showcases of quality filmmaking without the budget and modern technology.
I love this movie, saw it as a kid in the 80’s and it was amazing. Love it as an adult too.
there IS a 3rd person Mad Max game, it's called Mad Max, and urs a great underrated gem. 1
9/10 for me
Bust a deal, face the wheel... Great reaction
the guy who keeps getting taken out is Angry Anderson the lead singer from Rose Tattoo !!!
Tina would wear the outfit in concert on a riser doing we dont need another hero. Its was soooo awesome
Fist of the North Star manga and anime is especially inspired by Mad Max 2 and Thunderdome. Most reactors made a mistake as they started to watch "Fury Road" first instead of starting from the Original Mad Max. You are just amazing.
Fun Fact the Pilot at the End of the movie was "the Voice" in the end of the The return of the king. (that guy with big chompers)
I've always felt the kids should have been wilder and more aggressive. Like they would have developed a hatred for the adults that destroyed their world, and Max has to gain their trust.
this is one of those movies you can always enjoy when its on
One of my absolute favorites.
That last line is awesome.
Well I don't think it was mentioned (unless I missed it) but the woman in charge of Thunderdome (Auntie Entity) was played by singer Tina Turner. She was very popular in the 80's.
Another great Mel Gibson movie is Payback. It's a drama but has a lot of funny moments.
Simply.....a masterpiece.
The shot at the end of the film from the plane's approach to "Tomorrow Land" that you thought was a well done miniature was in fact the Sydney Opera House in Sydney, Australia....been there, done that. And you're absolutely right, the three films are one complete story arc...and I do like this one best as it completes Max's journey....it's up to you to decide if he ever makes it "home".
Dude awesome reaction video. I'd think it be really cool if you did a let's play of the video game some time. It really good and definitely worth a look even if you don't record it. Your rock man.
This is my favorite of the Mad Max movies!
I guess you gonna like the costume and set design, the practical effects and the cinematography of Waterworld (1995) too! 🌊👌🏼✌🏼
I was very young when this movie came out and I think my big sister rented it from the videostore. Just "discovered" Tina Turner 2.0 and I was amazed by her and Mel Gibson in a movie and the movie itself.
The sountrack was awesome, what a powerhouse Tina is. It had the same effect on me back then what Fury Road did so many years later. The 1st two movies are awesome too! George Miller knows how to make great movies!
A suggestion for a movie that I've seen no one reacted to is Escape from Absolom/No Escape with Ray Liotta and Lance Henrikson and Ernie Hudson from 1994
Thank you for this great reaction, have a good one James
One thing that only just now occurred to me is that the kids' prophecy about Captain Walker returning to fly them away came true, in a back-handed way. I've seen this movie countless times in the last 30+ years, and I never really made the connection directly.
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Bruce Spence plays two different (albeit very similar) characters in the two films - The Gyro-Captain in Mad Max 2: The Road Warrior and Jebediah in *Mad Max 3: Beyond Thunderdome.
This had a lot of us confused back when this came out.
There is a third person mad max game. Came out around the same time as the movie Fury Road
Beyond Thunderdome is so much fun and chaos all in one and it's worth the watch.
So much fun!
The third and final film in the Max series, until Mad Max Fury Road was released 30 years later and the upcoming prequel Mad Max Furiosa.
I love how many shots and scenes you enjoyed, I always feel alone when I say I enjoy MadMax3, I was watching this from the age of 7, and I would reenact so many scenes, along with MadMax2, I don’t follow the rest of the world, my order is
4-MadMax
3-Fury Road
2&1 Road Warrior+Thunderdome I love equally for different reasons, just depends what mood I’m in
“One of the Living” right at the top is one of the best most intense intros to a movie ever and you skipped over it!
Another movie you might like is "The Running Man"
Hell yeah!
George Miller continued to do mostly practical effects in the newer Tom Hard Mad Max film, from what I heard. Amazing achievement in all of these films. Looks so real because it mostly is. I had the privilege of watching the original Star Wars without all the crappy FX added years later by Lucas. Miller deserves his props for making these movies as real as possible. Road Warrior is probably my top movie of all time. Had such an affect on me as a kid, watching it in the theaters many times. This one was harder to understand and process, as it throws a lot at the audience, but the sheer artistry and imagination has to be applauded.
Two real good mad max documentaries on you tube explaining everything about the films including the writing and the filming and how the tom hardy one came to be
The closet potentials for a Mad Max style videogame might be The Borderlands series for the environment settings and vehicle combat sections. It's more a alien type game with human's that drive the story. The other would be The Fallout series is based on lone survivor after emerging from a underground vault after a nuclear war. It's more a sci-fi mutant creatures and human survivors trying to make a life in the CAPITAL and COMMONWEALTH wasteland. Mad Moxxi from the Borderlands series was inspired by Alice in Wonderland and Tina Turner's character from this film.
And I might add. The Mad Max game that got released a few years ago is very underrated. Worth a play
The Postman is another pretty good Post-Apocalypse film
I've seen this movie so many times on cable TV as a kid/teen. Saturday or Sunday morning most of the time lmao.
Yes, the guy who stole Mad Max's stuff at the beginning is the gyrocopter pilot from the previous film. I'm glad you liked this film, as I've always thought it was under-appreciated. I would like it if you watched Fury Road next. I think you'll get so much more out of it now that you've immersed yourself in the style of the previous three. It really is like a mythic tale about this mysterious figure, told verbally from one person to the next, like the ancient tales of our own history, like Greek heroes, Gilgamesh, Beowulf, etc.
Good news! There IS a third-person Mad Max game! And it's really good! I haven't finished the campaign yet, but rehashing the Mad Max franchise is really making me want to load it up again. Came out in '15. Critics loved it, and the graphics hold up really well. It's on both console (not sure about PS5) and PC (I got mine on Steam). Highly recommend!
Very underrated Mad Max film. I really loved it.
I'll be honest as a 90's kid i find Mad Max a little slow and hard to watch, but your enthusiasm makes me appreciate it.
Love this Trilogy
Bizarrely the novelisation of this third movie in the trilogy is really well written. It also makes a lot more sense than simply watching the film as well as it offers a lot more insight into character motivations and what's generally going on than a casual viewing would do.
Man, you really have to come visit Australia, it's full of the beauty you see on screen and much more.
Also, you definitely need to check out Wake in Fright. Amazing Aussie thriller and one of Martin Scorsese's favourite movies.
*WE DONT NEED ANOTHER HERO*
we have James ☝🏻
Great video brother. All the Mad Max Movies are George Miller BTW
Two men enter, one man leaves! I don't know why this movie gets the short end of the stick of the Mad Max movies, I always enjoyed it and love the myth building.
There actually has been a third person Mad Max video game. It came out when Fury Road did on PS4 and Xbox One. It's basically GTA in the Wasteland.