i have lived 7 lives i mowed lawn, garden centre, web developer, system admin, software developer, worked at a pc repair store, and worked at a lumber yard.
@@davdiwilkoven It's all we can do! Try lots of different thing and see what sticks. Or Create our own thing by combining all we know and have experienced. Do you have thinks you think about everyday?
This is an excellent video. My question to myself is why I would come into a form that isn't psychically flawless and in an abusive childhood? I am working on changing my life and I have made strides and I do think Ive made it better but I'd still happily yeet myself out of here too.
Maybe you have had other life's where you have had perfections and this life you wanted to try things differently. Also who says you aren't psychically flawless? We often look at others to see if we stack up. which I don't see us needing to do this.
@@bendthemasses I say that. Its a standard I wish I met that I don't. I'm a solid 7 but its not a perfect 10 and I think it kind of sucks being in this body, or any body for that matter. I identify with this being a prison but I'm making the most of it regardless.
@@bendthemasses Aside from being forced to endure abuse in chilldhood and having to overcome health issues, it's currently that despite making 100K+ a year I feel I can't afford to live comfortably where I want in southern California. Covid also broke whatever immersion I had left and I've been isolated from former friends as a result because they all were very disrespectful and called me a conspiracy theorist for not getting the shot / trusting the govt. I also seem to attract unstable people which I'm trying to change. I think I CAN make it better and I do so very actively, but it's always a bit bitter too and I don't see that changing.
@@coryallen4828 You are aware of the issue and 99% of people don't have that. So I wouldn't be selling yourself short. You could also look at the people who left during covid as a win as these don't seem to be people you want in your life. If you aren't able to express yourself opening then what is the point in having those friends in the first place? You have any work you are wanting todo? or do you do any hobbies? Could always meet new people that way well to get out of the isolation.
First video I've seen of yours, so I don't have complete context of who you are or how your life is going, but thought I'd comment anyways I think one word sums up the persepective jumping that you're talking about: relativity. One man with terminal cancer will see life as heaven, and another man with terminal cancer will see life as hell. It depends on where you were born, the belief system that was given to you, where you're standing on the mountain, and how you interpret what you're looking at or experiencing. Read the Stoics (Seneca, Epictetus, and Marcus) and Einstein's theory of relativity if you're stuck in repetitive thought loops thinking about this How do we know if we've experienced this moment and or life before? Like you said we'll most likely never know. I think the Buddhists have the best perspective on this (if you're intellectually curious about this, read Thích Nhất Hạnh's book, "No Death, No Fear"). Things come and go, infinitely. Maybe we've experienced countless human and non-human lives, and only this one once, because we're forever changing forms based on the first law of thermodynamics that you brought up. I find contemplating this intellectually dissatisfying though, because it doesn't lead anywhere. It's much better to contemplate impermanence instead, because you can gain real life changes from doing so (like compassion, loss of anger, etc) Like you said at the end, other peoples opinions on your philosophical/spiritual understanding of the world (unless you're hurting yourself or others), don't really matter. You're living a unique life, gifted to you from your anscestors. You stand on the mountain of life, with a map that you're making in real time, and you're trying to interpret the experiences that you're having the best you can. Of course someone deeply rooted in a specific belief system would think you're crazy, or lash out at you if you're telling them that their beliefs are wrong, because it contradicts the current map that they've been building, and they don't want that map to change, because they like the final destination My advice would be to only have these conversations with close friends, but try not to change other people. Just have a dialog, and share information, because people only change if they want to change. The world is a paradox. We can only change the world by changing ourselves Good luck out there. I wish you peace and happiness
Thank you! I’m going to have to check out some of the books you recommended. I do still want to share the ideas here. I can see having more discussion and reading responses like this enjoyable! If I have to sort through some of the BS and projections to get something like this that has meaning and depth. I will pay that price. I have been approaching it from the angle of I’m here if you want to work with me. As I have tried to change others without changing myself first. Then I found out there is no one to change but self and this has changed my perspective and life. Videos like this help me see who wants to have their map challenged or is opened minded to have a discussion/conversation. It’s what I have always done and have found a lot of growth when I go into everything with curiosity. Do I hold my own believes of course. If I find someone who comes along and shows me a new path always happy to explore. I did also like what you said about contemplating our short life’s more than trying to figure out how many times we have been here. Because it’s true. We might as well enjoy the time we have in the form we can remember. Also thank you for opening your comment in the way you did really appreciate that!
@@bendthemasses when I said, "My advice would be to only have these conversations with close friends", I meant specifically around spirituality. I should have clarified that. You'll likely have a positive dialog/experience with your close friends, versus having random people on the internet share their (often limited) opinion on the matter, but I guess we wouldn't be having this conversation if you didn't, so food for my own thought --- I saw this video and you reminded me of my younger self, hence why I commented. My mind was exploding with questions like the title of the video. I realized over time that trying to intellectually satisfy my mind was an impossible task. I learned that the monkey mind (I'm not calling you a monkey, this is how buddhists refer to a restless mind) is always racing, seeking, wanting answers, but the answers never satiate its hunger My monkey mind led me to reading a bunch of philosophy/spirituality from my anscestors: stoicism and christianity. When that wasn't enough, I read philosophy/spirituality from from asian countries like Taoism (Daoism), Buddhism, and Hinduism Reading the above did help, because I found out that studying how my brain works (conciously and subconciously), and why it asks such questions, was much more meaningful and practical to understand. I learned about practices that helped calm my restless mind. This equated to tangible changes in myself. Unlike the monkey minds endless intellectual hunger, where it enjoys the cat and mouse game. One question pops up which leads to another, endlessly, which caused grief and sadness in my life --- So to summarize.. If you understand your mind, then you can take steps towards making it still, like a jar that we've been shaking our whole life that's filled with mud and water, if we learn to just put the jar down, then the mud settles to the bottom and the water becomes clear. Then questions like "How many times have we lived this life?" lose their power over us Having a still/calm mind made me come to terms with my life, regardless of what happens to me, or what happens afterwards, so if you're brain is always racing, I'd recommend learning about the monkey mind! Good luck and may all beings be happy!
Well, focusing just on the physical reality - with death our life energy doesn't disappear but is displaced into other beings, either by feeding all sorts of little creatures and animals or by fertilising the soil around our burial site. (organic materia rotting also gives off heat, so another form of energy redistribution happens but that's less poetic haha) I think what christians describe as life after death really is life after the physical body gives up though, so that form of life would be disconnected from the need of energy in general I tend to think... I'm not religious at all myself though, just trying to categorise it all so the two approaches get to coexist without ruling out one another - it's best to not have enemies in christians haha
@@krisdziedzic1131 I do agree with not eliminating all Christians everyone is different. I think about how some people have special gifts or talents when they are born like they have a natural talent or gift. We might not always go back to the same form. I feel like a lot out life is knowing what we came here to experience!
@@bendthemasses i been having the same thoughts you are having since a serious medical problem. My Ego ("Jiva" - sanatana dharma) has caused me suffering from my thoughts and until i realize this i was going down the wrong path. Forgiveness , being grateful for the smallest things and rejection of materialism has helped me.
@@hiro-x7i I rejected a lot of materialism and have never had a lot of it to begin with as I found it didn't bring extra happiness. I have started to see the only thing I need to be happy is myself. So what comes is what comes. I do want to experience a lot of lives luxuries while in this form because it's like we came here so why not have material success along with spiritual success!
@@bendthemasses, I am a father and still have live in the material world and strive for success. But my perception is different than it was before. I don't need things, I want freedom to focus my attention on whatever i chose to. I would just hike/camp/rockhound/forage and raised my daughter and spend time with family/friends. I have a feeling you will be successful and reach your dreams.
@@hiro-x7i Thank you! And I have noticed the same thing. the freedom to focus on whatever I choose is key for me as well! I have a feeling you can and will achieve what you want as well!
If anything this is hell. We are all in sin, in a constant time loop of reincarnation. We feel pain, loss, suffer, and eventually die. Sure there are moments of pleasure, but they are few and brief.
@@bendthemasses This is like the idea of free will. The only free will is within our minds and even that can be broken. Most people are sheep, some wake up and become wolves, but they still need to play within the Shepard's rules. You can test this, find an empty plot of land, build a house, and as you're arrested, you watch them destroy your house.
@@bendthemasses sigh, I spent 15mins writting a comment about evolutionary psychology, and how it influences everything we do, but its lost to the the I guess
@@bendthemasses Basically, we as humans are drawn to things we find 'beautiful.' That could be women, ideas, landscapes, art, etc. Why do we find these things 'beautiful'? What is 'beauty'? If you think about it at a high level, beauty is just a 'feeling.' It's hard to quantify. But on a low level, there is a reason that we are drawn to these 'beautiful' things. Because it is what all life is driven by, women are beautiful because they allow us to create more beauty (life); ideas are beautiful because they allow us to make our lives easier, landscapes are beautiful because we can imagine ourselves living there comfortably. In the natural world, it's a constant battle for beauty. When a plant grows, it's growing to get closer to the sun, because beauty to a plant is sunlight, like water in a desert invokes beauty in us if we are dehydrated. Plants will literally push themselves through concrete to get to the thing it finds beautiful. Humans do the same, just in different ways. The point that I am trying to make, with this word 'beauty'. Is as humans we often detatch ourselves from nature, we try to abstract away how we percieve reality. Human life is unique, in that we can percieve reality, we don't just exist to continue existing, we have the ability to create abstractions of reality. Like stories, like money, like art. Religion is an abstraction, entertainment is an abstraction, technology beyond utility is an abstraction, in the modern world we live in an abstracted reality, I think thats why religion as a concept is dying, we can look at a screen and see fake beauty (pixels are not real beauty) we don't need this beautiful story (religion) to get our dose of abstracted beauty. But when this beauty is all around us all the time, it becomes dulled, if all beauty is dull then at that point life actually does have no meaning, but if you can see beauty in something , pursue that thing, the pursuit of beauty is the most natural and rewarding thing we can do. Chasing money is meaningless if it does not lead to something beautiful. I wrote this better the first time, but whatever.
Keep spreading the positive vibes bruh
Don’t plan on stopping!
i have lived 7 lives i mowed lawn, garden centre, web developer, system admin, software developer, worked at a pc repair store, and worked at a lumber yard.
You have one you enjoy more than the rest?
@@bendthemasses nah not really i have been having trouble finding a meaningful purpose. but i'll keep trying
@@davdiwilkoven It's all we can do! Try lots of different thing and see what sticks. Or Create our own thing by combining all we know and have experienced.
Do you have thinks you think about everyday?
This is an excellent video. My question to myself is why I would come into a form that isn't psychically flawless and in an abusive childhood? I am working on changing my life and I have made strides and I do think Ive made it better but I'd still happily yeet myself out of here too.
Maybe you have had other life's where you have had perfections and this life you wanted to try things differently. Also who says you aren't psychically flawless?
We often look at others to see if we stack up. which I don't see us needing to do this.
@@bendthemasses I say that. Its a standard I wish I met that I don't. I'm a solid 7 but its not a perfect 10 and I think it kind of sucks being in this body, or any body for that matter. I identify with this being a prison but I'm making the most of it regardless.
@@coryallen4828 Can always make the prison the way you want it to be made! You get to decide after all.
What makes you feel like you are in a prison?
@@bendthemasses Aside from being forced to endure abuse in chilldhood and having to overcome health issues, it's currently that despite making 100K+ a year I feel I can't afford to live comfortably where I want in southern California. Covid also broke whatever immersion I had left and I've been isolated from former friends as a result because they all were very disrespectful and called me a conspiracy theorist for not getting the shot / trusting the govt. I also seem to attract unstable people which I'm trying to change. I think I CAN make it better and I do so very actively, but it's always a bit bitter too and I don't see that changing.
@@coryallen4828 You are aware of the issue and 99% of people don't have that. So I wouldn't be selling yourself short.
You could also look at the people who left during covid as a win as these don't seem to be people you want in your life. If you aren't able to express yourself opening then what is the point in having those friends in the first place?
You have any work you are wanting todo? or do you do any hobbies? Could always meet new people that way well to get out of the isolation.
First video I've seen of yours, so I don't have complete context of who you are or how your life is going, but thought I'd comment anyways
I think one word sums up the persepective jumping that you're talking about: relativity. One man with terminal cancer will see life as heaven, and another man with terminal cancer will see life as hell. It depends on where you were born, the belief system that was given to you, where you're standing on the mountain, and how you interpret what you're looking at or experiencing. Read the Stoics (Seneca, Epictetus, and Marcus) and Einstein's theory of relativity if you're stuck in repetitive thought loops thinking about this
How do we know if we've experienced this moment and or life before? Like you said we'll most likely never know. I think the Buddhists have the best perspective on this (if you're intellectually curious about this, read Thích Nhất Hạnh's book, "No Death, No Fear"). Things come and go, infinitely. Maybe we've experienced countless human and non-human lives, and only this one once, because we're forever changing forms based on the first law of thermodynamics that you brought up. I find contemplating this intellectually dissatisfying though, because it doesn't lead anywhere. It's much better to contemplate impermanence instead, because you can gain real life changes from doing so (like compassion, loss of anger, etc)
Like you said at the end, other peoples opinions on your philosophical/spiritual understanding of the world (unless you're hurting yourself or others), don't really matter. You're living a unique life, gifted to you from your anscestors. You stand on the mountain of life, with a map that you're making in real time, and you're trying to interpret the experiences that you're having the best you can. Of course someone deeply rooted in a specific belief system would think you're crazy, or lash out at you if you're telling them that their beliefs are wrong, because it contradicts the current map that they've been building, and they don't want that map to change, because they like the final destination
My advice would be to only have these conversations with close friends, but try not to change other people. Just have a dialog, and share information, because people only change if they want to change. The world is a paradox. We can only change the world by changing ourselves
Good luck out there. I wish you peace and happiness
Thank you!
I’m going to have to check out some of the books you recommended.
I do still want to share the ideas here. I can see having more discussion and reading responses like this enjoyable! If I have to sort through some of the BS and projections to get something like this that has meaning and depth. I will pay that price.
I have been approaching it from the angle of I’m here if you want to work with me. As I have tried to change others without changing myself first. Then I found out there is no one to change but self and this has changed my perspective and life. Videos like this help me see who wants to have their map challenged or is opened minded to have a discussion/conversation.
It’s what I have always done and have found a lot of growth when I go into everything with curiosity. Do I hold my own believes of course. If I find someone who comes along and shows me a new path always happy to explore.
I did also like what you said about contemplating our short life’s more than trying to figure out how many times we have been here. Because it’s true. We might as well enjoy the time we have in the form we can remember.
Also thank you for opening your comment in the way you did really appreciate that!
@@bendthemasses when I said, "My advice would be to only have these conversations with close friends", I meant specifically around spirituality. I should have clarified that. You'll likely have a positive dialog/experience with your close friends, versus having random people on the internet share their (often limited) opinion on the matter, but I guess we wouldn't be having this conversation if you didn't, so food for my own thought
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I saw this video and you reminded me of my younger self, hence why I commented. My mind was exploding with questions like the title of the video. I realized over time that trying to intellectually satisfy my mind was an impossible task. I learned that the monkey mind (I'm not calling you a monkey, this is how buddhists refer to a restless mind) is always racing, seeking, wanting answers, but the answers never satiate its hunger
My monkey mind led me to reading a bunch of philosophy/spirituality from my anscestors: stoicism and christianity. When that wasn't enough, I read philosophy/spirituality from from asian countries like Taoism (Daoism), Buddhism, and Hinduism
Reading the above did help, because I found out that studying how my brain works (conciously and subconciously), and why it asks such questions, was much more meaningful and practical to understand. I learned about practices that helped calm my restless mind. This equated to tangible changes in myself. Unlike the monkey minds endless intellectual hunger, where it enjoys the cat and mouse game. One question pops up which leads to another, endlessly, which caused grief and sadness in my life
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So to summarize..
If you understand your mind, then you can take steps towards making it still, like a jar that we've been shaking our whole life that's filled with mud and water, if we learn to just put the jar down, then the mud settles to the bottom and the water becomes clear. Then questions like "How many times have we lived this life?" lose their power over us
Having a still/calm mind made me come to terms with my life, regardless of what happens to me, or what happens afterwards, so if you're brain is always racing, I'd recommend learning about the monkey mind! Good luck and may all beings be happy!
Newtons third law has nothing to do with energy being created or destroyed.. That would be the first law of thermodynamics.
That’s right 3rd law is about and object in motion stays in motion. Got it mixed up
Interesting how the human mind always trys to make sence of his believes
Does your mind not do the same thing?
Well, focusing just on the physical reality - with death our life energy doesn't disappear but is displaced into other beings, either by feeding all sorts of little creatures and animals or by fertilising the soil around our burial site. (organic materia rotting also gives off heat, so another form of energy redistribution happens but that's less poetic haha) I think what christians describe as life after death really is life after the physical body gives up though, so that form of life would be disconnected from the need of energy in general I tend to think... I'm not religious at all myself though, just trying to categorise it all so the two approaches get to coexist without ruling out one another - it's best to not have enemies in christians haha
@@krisdziedzic1131 I do agree with not eliminating all Christians everyone is different. I think about how some people have special gifts or talents when they are born like they have a natural talent or gift.
We might not always go back to the same form. I feel like a lot out life is knowing what we came here to experience!
Just as waves, foam and bubbles are not different from water, so all this which has emanated from oneself, is no other than oneself - ashtavakra gita
Learning this changed my whole world!
@@bendthemasses i been having the same thoughts you are having since a serious medical problem. My Ego ("Jiva" - sanatana dharma) has caused me suffering from my thoughts and until i realize this i was going down the wrong path. Forgiveness , being grateful for the smallest things and rejection of materialism has helped me.
@@hiro-x7i I rejected a lot of materialism and have never had a lot of it to begin with as I found it didn't bring extra happiness. I have started to see the only thing I need to be happy is myself. So what comes is what comes. I do want to experience a lot of lives luxuries while in this form because it's like we came here so why not have material success along with spiritual success!
@@bendthemasses, I am a father and still have live in the material world and strive for success. But my perception is different than it was before. I don't need things, I want freedom to focus my attention on whatever i chose to. I would just hike/camp/rockhound/forage and raised my daughter and spend time with family/friends. I have a feeling you will be successful and reach your dreams.
@@hiro-x7i Thank you! And I have noticed the same thing. the freedom to focus on whatever I choose is key for me as well!
I have a feeling you can and will achieve what you want as well!
If anything this is hell. We are all in sin, in a constant time loop of reincarnation. We feel pain, loss, suffer, and eventually die. Sure there are moments of pleasure, but they are few and brief.
Maybe for you. I feel like we get to decide if we have heaven or hell on earth.
@@bendthemasses This is like the idea of free will. The only free will is within our minds and even that can be broken. Most people are sheep, some wake up and become wolves, but they still need to play within the Shepard's rules. You can test this, find an empty plot of land, build a house, and as you're arrested, you watch them destroy your house.
you are speaking for every human.. i am confident that i have more pleasurable times than hurtful ones
@@findupstream Likewise!
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youtube keeps deleting my comment, did you see it?
This is the only one I see
@@bendthemasses sigh, I spent 15mins writting a comment about evolutionary psychology, and how it influences everything we do, but its lost to the the I guess
@@joshb7415 If you had to sum up the 15 minute comment what would it say?
@@joshb7415 And I have had this happen before Was a bit frustrating
@@bendthemasses Basically, we as humans are drawn to things we find 'beautiful.' That could be women, ideas, landscapes, art, etc.
Why do we find these things 'beautiful'? What is 'beauty'? If you think about it at a high level, beauty is just a 'feeling.' It's hard to quantify. But on a low level, there is a reason that we are drawn to these 'beautiful' things. Because it is what all life is driven by, women are beautiful because they allow us to create more beauty (life); ideas are beautiful because they allow us to make our lives easier, landscapes are beautiful because we can imagine ourselves living there comfortably. In the natural world, it's a constant battle for beauty. When a plant grows, it's growing to get closer to the sun, because beauty to a plant is sunlight, like water in a desert invokes beauty in us if we are dehydrated. Plants will literally push themselves through concrete to get to the thing it finds beautiful. Humans do the same, just in different ways.
The point that I am trying to make, with this word 'beauty'. Is as humans we often detatch ourselves from nature, we try to abstract away how we percieve reality. Human life is unique, in that we can percieve reality, we don't just exist to continue existing, we have the ability to create abstractions of reality. Like stories, like money, like art. Religion is an abstraction, entertainment is an abstraction, technology beyond utility is an abstraction, in the modern world we live in an abstracted reality, I think thats why religion as a concept is dying, we can look at a screen and see fake beauty (pixels are not real beauty) we don't need this beautiful story (religion) to get our dose of abstracted beauty. But when this beauty is all around us all the time, it becomes dulled, if all beauty is dull then at that point life actually does have no meaning, but if you can see beauty in something , pursue that thing, the pursuit of beauty is the most natural and rewarding thing we can do. Chasing money is meaningless if it does not lead to something beautiful.
I wrote this better the first time, but whatever.