Ludicrously Huge .45-70 and .50-70 Revolvers
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Created in 1973 to commemorate the 100th anniversary of the adoption of the .45-70 cartridge by the US military, the Model 100 revolver is a behemoth of a six-shooter. It was made by Earl Keller and Gene Phelps of Indiana, under the name Century Mfg, Inc (no relation to Century International Arms). The design is a Single Action Army Colt scaled up, and was made with a bronze frame, and with a cross bolt safety added. They were initially chambered for .45-70, but this expanded to include .50-70 (“The Mother Load”), .375 Winchester .444 Marlin, and .30-30 Winchester.
Phelps and Keller parted ways in 1976, with Keller continuing to make the guns the same way and Phelps changing to stainless steel and abandoning the cross bolt safety. In total, something close to 3,000 guns were made in total between the two.
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The perfect sidearm for when you are hunting tigers, bears, buffalos, sharks, crocodiles and deathclaws.
And Radscorpions and Cazadores
What planet do death claws come from
@@tomlawrence3991 Earth, they are mutated jackson chameleons
@@smithwesson1896 it's not big enough for cazarores.
nothing is.
@rwsthedemonking It´s a creature from Fallout, really gnarly things.
Historians note that the gun manual details how one can detach the cylinder from the gun as well as the proper form for throwing it at an opponent in order to end him rightly.
Ah a fellow man of culture I see.
Touché.
you actually had me fooled for a second there
Ah the skallagrim/forgotten weapons crossover lore
imagine if primate go so good at making tool that they make this that would make nat geo alot cooler and would kinda explain why ufo visit so often ...
"I bet you're wondering, did I fire five shots or did I fire six"
"WHAT?!"
"I SAID I BET YOURE WONDERING"
"I THINK YOURE WONDERFUL TOO"
"WHAT"
Made me think of Spongebob and Patrick when they tried to sell chocolate. I'm dying!
@@cameronbrown7796cringe af 🤢🤮
@@roadwarrior6530 Get out of here with your anti-Spongebob rhetoric.
Lmao
To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day...
Hardly spoke to folks round' em, didn't have much to sayyyyy
No-one dared to ask his business, no-one dared to make a slip;
No one dared to ask his business, nobody dared to make a slip. . .
@@TheAzureNightmare the stranger there among them had a B I G I R O N on his hip..
It was early in the morning when he rode into the town...
*Sees big revolvers in the thumbnail*
"Truth is, the comment section was rigged from the start"
"Heavy is good. Heavy is sign of reliability. And if it does not shoot, you can always hit him with it."
- Boris
"It would work better if you fed him that 6lb piece of shit"
Turkish
"the fuck are you doing here boris?" -tony
Who are you afraid of Tommy? Ze Germans?
"[Boris is] as bent as the Soviet sickle, and hard as the hammer that crosses it. Apparently, it's just impossible to kill the bastard."
-Turkish (narration)
We won’t go quietly, The Legion can count on that.
Toaster Ave, True to Caesar
I would of been very disappointed if I did not see at least one New Vegas reference.
Hahahahah
That's were those came from I'd wondered bout that during every cowboy build.
@@calska140 you must be fun at parties
"Any hits?" He said, half blind, deaf, and unable to feel his teeth.
I have a TC Contender in 45/70. It will put 5 shots in a 2 inch bull at 100 yards. I have used it to take a lot of whitetail deer with it. It weighs about 4 1/2 pounds not that 6 1/2 pounds. I use a Remington 300 grain simi-jacket hollow point bullet. My ears are the same as they were before, it does kick. But not something a grown man can't handle.
LOL !
Thanks for the laugh!
@@johnwilliamson2276 WHAT DID YOU SAY?
@@rogainegaming6924 HE SAID SOMETHING ABOUT A FLIGHT FLAIL!
if you fire two of those at the ground simultaneously, you'll fly like a wild west iron-man
You’ve got to fire them at the height of your jump
@@Sheridantank Small being fractions of a millimeter, but yes.
Like Yosemite sam!
Yosemite Sam from loony toons
@@EstrogenGhoul let a man dream bro
"Why is one side of your jacket dragging on the floor?"
"Oh, I have a couple of quickloaders in my pocket."
"But Ian, what about the ROUSes?"
"Revolvers Of Unusual Size? I don't believe they exist."
"Betcha wondering, did he fire five or six shots?"
*dirtbag notices the stump where harry's hand was*
"uh...."
lol
and instead of delivering the lines in a dramatic fashion, he's yelling them awkwardly because he's completely deaf.
"... WELL, DO YA, PUNK?"
"WHAT?"
@@PSUQDPICHQIEIWC 😂😂
"It is 5 bigger" ~Ian McCollum 2019
Gun Jesus*
classic
Its 1 louder innit
They say some courier made a fuss on the Strip. Must have delivered more than just mail.
The man who carried those got them to take revenge on a gang of wrists that killed his family.
Kerman Guy oh come on only 15 likes?? This is by far the best comment on this video
@@noahchristian1354 To be fair, I stole this joke from 4chan.
Honestly in that weight it wouldn't be that bad. Sure you'd have kick but not wrist breaking kick. After all we have a modern version of this in the magnum research BFR which weighs between 4.5 lbs and 5.3 lbs and comes in similar caliber sizes except for the 50-70.
If the 40-70 here weighs 6 lbs I'm guessing that the 50-70 weighs closer to 7.
Almost everyone looking at this is thinking 1 thing
Ranger sequoia
BIG IRONS, big irons
I immediately scrolled down the comments looking for this to be mentioned.
;)
@rwsthedemonking You should play some Fallout: New Vegas......
rwsthedemonking it’s the most powerful pistol in fallout new Vegas, sadly the real life variant isn’t actually gold plated with intricate engravings, it’s given to veteran rangers who have given over 10-25 years of service, in game it’s called the hunting revolver or Ranger Sequoia, both variants use 45-70 gov’t ammo, both variants can use standard, hollow point, and SWC (semi-wad cutter) ammo
The Big Brass on his hip.
Big brass on his hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiip
Big Bronze, Shirley.
I was going to make it be "The Big Brass on his Ass" , but that sounded weird to me.
@@samiraperi467 Thank you for correcting me since I saw this at like 3 AM on Full30 and incorrectly thought Ian said brass instead of bronze.
@@LOUDcarBOMB Well he did talk about it not being brass despite looking like it.
When you need to kill the guy, the guy behind him, the house behind him, and the Jeep at the end of the block.
When you literally need "bear arms" to bear arms.
Adam Halsey or De-arm bears
Good one, love it.
Don't tread on the bear!
Two-headed bear arms.
"valdof supports the right to bear armored bear arms"
"So how many times have you broken your wrist?"
"*One and nineteen more*
For the Murican version of Crocodile Dundee... "That's not a gun...."
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:-D XD
Even better 😂 in German.
it'd be hilarious as a western......
bandit pulls out a revolver
Mickey: ya call that a gun? this [pulls out the motherload] is a gun, how ya like that?? eh?
bandit runs away
Mickey: aww where ya goin?
Bill: what'd ja do? never seen a man run like that.....never seen a man run in front of the horse before.....
Mickey: i just showed 'im my gun is all [shows the motherload again]
Bill: HOLY JEEZ!!!
Except a bowie knife is practical
@@clintsouthwood7733 so were the .44 and .357 Magnums in the Dirty Harry movies, it's a joke FFS, laugh a little....
I have one of the "Golden Bison" 45-70's and I love it! Recoil is not nearly as bad as you would think. Pretty pleasant to shoot. Serial number is 14
"Brisk and tolerable"
I believe the propper term is "kicks like mule"
A very, very angry mule.
.... Did you not get the joke? The joke is that gun reviewers never say anything bad, but rephrase things in ways to minimize a gun's issues.
IDK, it does weigh 6 pounds.
Broken wrist?
People were more polite back then.
Firing either gun would be " A Significant Emotional Event " as the Chieftain would say. I doubt either weapon has seen more than a box of rounds. God bless us all
Today I learned that I like my ladies the way I like my revolvers.
Huge, menacing, silencing anything from a weeping child to a charging bear.
Death by snu snu.
When you are hunting buffalos and want your sidearm in the same caliber as your rifle.
I mean, 44-40 was a popular revolver cartridge back in the day for exactly that reason.
it was early in the morning when he road into the town.
@@Beuwen_The_Dragon no one dared to ask his business no one dared to make a slip
The stranger there among them had a big bronze on his hip
(Apologies to Marty Robbins)
Hoooo- ooooh~
(Also hey Beuwen, funny seeing EFAP's best artist here!)
I don't like those pocket pistols, they look too flimsy
"Do you feel lucky punk?"
Seen this video
"..........yeah..."
Yeah I know
@Nasim Aghdam
that is probably why they went with bronze instead of steel, bronze has a lot of heft to it, which helps with the recoil.
Zorg a smith and Wesson lemon squeezer now that’s a pocket pistol
Not only flimsy, but too small. I need a huge gun to carry for concealment not some pip squeak like these. 🙃😁
So, what you're saying is there's a revolver out there that can share ammo with my 1870 trapdoor.
"How far can your wrist oscillate?"
"What?"
When you need to kill anything you come across and don’t care about your wrists
Hickok45 proved that it's fine as long as you use proper technique.
What if I came into this wanting to kill wrists
@@judsongaiden9878 I haven't seen the video, but considering how poor his AK technique is, it's entirely likely that he also demonstrated that it's fine even with barely adequate technique. :P
@@marshaul Maybe it's just because he's huge.
@@judsongaiden9878 That's a plausible theory, now that you mention it.
They may have chosen bronze for the frame for a little bit more weight over a steel frame, with bronze being about 10% denser than steel.
John Smith nonetheless still a unique idea
Gotta soak every bit of recoil that you can if you want a second shot
They should've made it out of gold then
That depends on the specific bronze and specific steel your talking about most bronze is the same density as steel
No "common" bronze, either; manganese bronze!
I had a buddy who owned a 45-70 version with a 8-10 inch barrel. Huge, weighed a ton, never got a chance to shoot it. He always saw it as part investment and part crazy fun. The frame is Manganese bronze IIRC.
Ranger Sequoia
For honorable service, against all tyrants!
I always thought the Sequoia seemed a little small in the hand.
See also the Magnum Research BFR. Hickok45 handles it like a boss!
@@Taolan8472 because it was actually modelled after BFR instead of this gun.
Came here to specificly say that combination of words XD
"Weight is good, heavy is reliable, if it doesn't work you can always hit him with it," - Boris the Blade
When ya wanna turn a person's upper body into a canoe rather then just the head.
Dammit Wyatt...
Customer : What do you recommend for concealed carry?
insane gun salesman: Well sir, we have this...
Well they won't be able to hear after the first shot so it'll at least be quiet enough 💀
Wow actual revolver style anti tank rifles, thats pretty cool.......
The Villainess Will Crush Her Destruction End Through Modern Firepower
@@jayhom5385 lmao a reference to that manga here out of all places, I salute you
These are really well proportioned. As you said, without a scale reference it is very hard to determine just how ludicrously huge they are.
"They started making these in .45-70 in 1973"
Damn... For that massive speech, Dirty Harry's .44 magnum 'most powerful handgun in the world' would be absolutely DESTROYED within just 2 years xD
Technically, it was already obsolete, as the .454 Casull round was already introduced, but .44 Magnum was still the most powerful revolver, as the only .454 Casull guns at the time were single-shot.
@@ironicdivinemandatestan4262 The .577 Caliber Bland-Pryse revolver would like a word.
@@SarSaraneth .44 magnum is more powerful than the .577 pryse cartridge. Not even a fair comparison honestly. You're comparing a black powder catridge to a smokeless powder catridge.
@@WE-ep9tq 2 bore pistol would like a word.
The warboss iz gunna go mad when he sees this puny 'oomie playing wiv his shootaz !
GET YA MITZ OFFA ME DAKKA YA GIT
There is only the Emperor!
Der'z also da Warboss!
wasn't expecting Orkz in a Forgotten Weapons vid
WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH!!!
somewhere someone has a hammer scar on their forehead from one of those
They seem to be well made to me, granted I'm just watching a video and not actually handling them. What exactly about the gun is making you think the hammer will somehow fail and explode back into the shooters head? I'm genuinely curious
FunWithFirearms I think he’s on about the recoil causing the pistol and the hand that is grasping it being flung back into ones forehead...
@@FrontSideBus ahhh I see. Yeah that makes sense. I thought he meant the hammer being blown out, I was like how is that gonna happen? I see the deal now
Would he be called The Boy Who Lived?
@@kohinarec6580 no
"Hey, Ian! How qbout a shooting video?"
"Go right ahead..."
I wish someone would troll demolition ranch by loaning him one of these
He already has a magnum research in .45-70
Jerry Miculek has one (.45-70) and has a video shooting it. ua-cam.com/video/OVnYNlEN_z0/v-deo.html
Joe OrangeBlock, thanks for the heads up!
@@easterriot1916 Np. Its always fun to see the gun firing.
Joe OrangeBlock . Couldn’t agree more. Have a nice one!
Makes me wonder, you ever see any of the Freedom Arms revolvers come through there since they've got an interesting involvement with .454 Casull?
Casull had a custom 45-70 single action made before he created the .454. Guess who made it for him.
I owned a magnum research 45/70 revolver, 10"barrel. about 7lbs of stainless. It was awsome, and surprisingly nice to shoot due to the weight!
"McBain that cannon of yours is against regulations!"
"Model 500, the most powerful handgun in the world, and would blow your head clean off, than stops a tank and sink a battelship."
I own a model 100. The mass of the gun mitigates recoil amazingly well. Show stopper at the range for sure!!!
If I could just afford this, I'd buy the .45-70 version. It would go perfectly with my Marlin 1895ABL. I would only be interested in the face of our officer at the weapons department if I wanted to register it. (This is necessary according to the German gun law)
He'd probably ask me:
"Who do you think you are, the bigger brother of Hulk Hogan?"
Very nice Video. Thanks for sharing and best regards from the german northsea-shore. 👍🏼😁
2:01 I literally laughed out loud when Ian put the 1911 next to it! Didn't quite realize the size of these until you see it next to that. That's just a ridiculously big gun!
"What calibre would you like?"
"Yes"
There was an article in one of the gun digest books back in the 90's about these revolvers, Manganese bronze is the metal i recall they were made from. Massively strong obviously.
I've actually fired two of the model 100s in .45-70, my cousin owns a pair. As per the recoil, stout is an apt description but with the amount of unburned powder leaving the muzzle the huge flash was more notable personally. Didn't realize they did a .50-70 also, need to find one to try out now!
Portable flash bang dispenser. Refill after 5 uses.
"This is a .50 caliber revolver. Its only legal in two states and this isn't one of them" John Candy
When did he ever say something like that?
@@smithwesson1896 I think it was the movie Armed and Dangerous. Towards the end of the movie when they set out to stop the bad guys from robbing the armored car being driven by Meg Ryan and Eugene Levy. 1986.
A very good friend of mine, Richard Jacks, worked for Gene at his shop in Evansville,Indiana. He told me stories of firing proof loads in these guns.
45-70 Revolver all I think is the movie "Looper". Loved how they used odd weapons like the BFR, Manteba, and High Standard Derringer. Gave it an alternate universe feel.
I love Ian's humour totally, every time it makes me giggle.
TODAY, on the new episode of ludicrously large revolvers...
I wonder how one of those would look in Othias' hands.
billtheunjust “this ones too large, this ones too small, this ones juuuuust right”
Hellboy called,he wants his backup pieces back!😆😆😆
I have the strange urge to fire these guys at a target, while dual wielding, while running.
And yelling. Definitely have to be yelling some obscenities.
Two words: Demolition Ranch
Do you also have a strange urge for complicated wrist-reconstruction?
See kids, this is why you say NO to drugs
@@RevBoose Gee mister! When you came ridin' I filled my breeches!!
I've fired a 45-70 in a Thompson Center Contender pistol and I didn't think the recoil was all that bad. It was a big push rather than a sharp rap. A friend of mine bought the Contender with multiple barrels in various calibers and we took it out to the range. He had a box of 20 45-70 rounds, fired two and gave up (he was much smaller than I am) and let me finish off the box as he never intended to fire that barrel again.
Pieces of art made of brass, steel and wood. Hickok45 would love to test these beauties!
Might be the first gun ever to fit his giant hands.
*bronze
He would need somr new milk churns, amd probably need to fill in a few holes.
When you don’t just want to break your wrist, you want to pulverize it
To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day! 🎵
“Hardly spoke to folks around him, didn’t have that much to sayyyyy”
No one dared to ask his business, no one dared to make a slip
The chief virtue of bronze is that it has a *very* high shear strength; a high-PSI [5k+ psi] pellet press in a lab I worked at used bronze bolts to hold the main body together.
Given the pressure and stresses that ammo would produce, at the minimum, a bronze frame would be needed (and far more decorative than an appropriate alloy steel frame).
Bronze was used for artillery for centuries for good reason. It was actually less likely to fail than Renaissance or 18th century iron and gave you good warning via bulging if it was failing. Iron guns just blew up randomly when something was wrong.
It looks like Eddie's revolver from Who Framed Roger Rabbit.
"I see your .45acp but i'll raise you to a .45-70 revolver", "I see your .45-70 revolver, so i'll raise you to .454 casull revolver", "I see your .454 casull revolver, so i'll raise you to a .50-70 revolver", "I fold" .
.454 casull is not a raise from .45-70 govt lol
Also a bit counterintuitive, 45-70 is a more powerful cartridge than 50-70
@@codyphillips636 check again, compare 400 gr loads of each.
@@kaylt.7864 you're right, but I was looking at for the cartridge loading with the highest energy foot pounds, which for 45-70 is around 3500. When it comes to killing things I don't care about fairness, just results
@@codyphillips636 thats cool to say but then you're wrong again bc damage is not a result of foot pounds alone. Not a huge fan of psuedo-wisdom. Anyway, good day to you
I wonder if Ian made a conscious reference to "This is Spinal Tab" when he said "It's 5 bigger".
I remember many years ago a write-up of something similar with a long barrel it was so heavy that the official gunbelt came with a diagonal shoulder belt to take the strain
Big irons? Big irons.
Big Bronzes
That intro just made my day 100% better , thanks Ian
I want this after 20 years of service
To the devil maybe 😂
Sic sempur tyrannis
My LGS has one of these in .45-70 right now! They're huge
turn up to ccw training with one of those .... y'know, for the lolz.
Touay that would be epic
cpl training my dude. ccw is the crime you are charged with if you conceal without the license.
@Brotato Chip LMFAO. I'm in America & it's definitely called a CPL. When i took it the guy in the gunshop also wrote it down as CCW and in the class the retired cop told everyone in the room the difference if we didnt already know. Mandela effect dude, also a 4 second google search would do you wonders.
@Brotato Chip I am in the UK, so I may be wrong, but I have heard multiple initialisms for the 'concealed carry permit'. i guess each state picks what they want to call it.
I call it 2A.
@Brotato Chip even without google some basic intuition would keep you in check, considering i also explained the difference. The L for License is only on 1 of those acronyms. You're not the only one who applied to a gunshop.
I thought Magnum Research was the first to put a rifle cartridge, in single action revolver. Interesting.
I've got one and they don't really kick at all, if you're ever in Wyoming and want to shoot one just contact me.
You've got to be kidding
The bore axis is so high, and the large caliber,
seems counter intuitive
@@Tony-dh7mz one of the few times where it being so darn heavy actually helps, i'd imagine.
No it really doesn't, it's a heavy gun but for a second it weighs nothing. I'm a big guy but my wife is only 5,2" 115 lbs and even she can shoot it
@@frankwhite9314
No, I get the weapons weight to counter some of the recoil, just it being at the back of the gun not helping the muzzle climb
@@Tony-dh7mz that and the 8" bbl
"This revolver goes to 11."
Montenegro: "we made the worlds biggest revolver"
Century Manufacturing Inc: "hold my beer"
I so want Ian to let Othias do a side by side with a Montenegro Gasser.
Its a beast. Someone I know made a pistol in 45_70 with a break action shootgun and a sleeved barrel. Recoil was so much the action opened ejected the case and locked shut again.. He never noticed the action opened up and when he opened the gun he was wondering where the case had gone.. Lucky bastard..
Is no one going to make a Jakobs comment. Ill do it then.
"If it took more than 1 shot, then you weren't using a Jakobs."
Remember, no refunds!
I’m ashamed I didn’t think of that at all.
Worked with a guy who had a single shot pistol that you get different calibers to put on the same frame. He had the 45-70. Said he didn't mind shooting it but it definitely had a love/hate deal with most shooters on the hate side.
Ah, I'm pretty sure I've once across one of these during image searches for what was the inspiration of those very, very Big Irons in Fallout: New Vegas. Have to admit I find them ridiculously cool. Nice to see them get the Forgotten Weapons treatment.
I believe I recall seeing the 45-70 model, with a slightly longer barrel than the one shown, for sale at the Kittery trading post a few years back. Looked like it had been sitting there gathering dust and passerby's curiosity for a long time.
"Brisk but tolerable" died haha
Love both my BFR's, one in 45-70 the other in 444 Marlin.
Thanks Ian for reminding me that my 🤬 father sold the model 100 I'd inherit to my damned uncle back in 1980 so he could buy a 🤬'ing Chevette, yes a Chevette for my mom. Now I'm in negotiations to get my uncle to sell it back to me...
Put the Chevette in neutral and fire the gun out the back window if you want to exceed the Chevette's top speed.
Jerry Miculek ordered a .45-70 in the late 70's. His took nine years to finally get to him. He states that he had forgot about ordering it, and when notified about manufacturing completion, it was like a surprise gift to himself.
(looks at 1911):
"Baby gun..."
(looks at 45-70):
"Now THIS is a nice weapon."
When you picked up the gun it looked like a cartoon pistol! THATS HUGE!
Big Revolvers: Exists
Rebecca Lee (Revy): *Heavy breathing.*
LOL. Are you afraid...
(Revy calmly reloads her colt)
STFU punk! Didn't you see that I wasn't even listening? Do you want to sell me that damn gun?
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Sweet nostalgia.
Thats the day Rock finally lost his hearing
Hehe poor Rock.
Glad you and the other guy got the reference.
I thought Dutch was the revolver fan. And Revy used custom Beretta 92s
I’m still kicking myself over this revolver (or it’s later model). When I was a kid there was a box set with the .45/70 and .45 colt in a beautiful velvet lined shadow box at a small gun shop I hung out at. I went with a model 94 Winchester instead, and always regretted not buying that set.
Crikey... they look like something that Hellboy would use. :)
Bronze was easier to use as it was cast and machined. I ordered mine in 1973 and git it in 1981. Earl was a personal friend of mine and I spent many hours in his shop. My Dad was a lawyer and handled the sale of his business to a Dentist in Greenfield In. Show up at a cowboy shoot with it on your hip and all went wild. Still enjoy shooting it.
Ian should make a playlist containing all the ludicrously huge revolvers hes looked at
We all can make playlists with other peoples videos.
Maybe I should take a years' worth of vacation and rewatch all his videos . . .
I just wanna know who made a 45-70 revolver and decided “no it needs to be bigger” and made a 50-70 version
They are nice but still don't compare to the .577 stopping revolver you reviewed, I loved that.
you can tell by the little jump in his voice and the slight grin on his face when he introduced himself that he really enjoyed that opening line.
IAN! I am absolutely certain that you have a great time with these videos, and I know this is meant to be an information repository, but you have a lovely sense of humor and I'm sure it wouldn't hurt to express yourself a little more! The intro was cute, and I love the skits you guys do on InRange
I grew up in Indiana. Used to see several gun dealers that had these on their tables for years. Even the phelps.
Indy 1500 gun show from the mid 80's through the 90's.
Used to be a great gun show.