बहस : राई जाति कि पदवी ? काे हुन् किरात ? किन आरक्षण ? Debate about Rai, Kirat & Reservation |

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  • @Entertainment-d5r
    @Entertainment-d5r Місяць тому +3

    राइजातिहरु आबस्यक भन्दा ज्यादा बाठो हुन खोज्छ ।एस्को फाइदा आर्यन नस्लबादी लाई हुन्छ ।एउटा भनाइ छ नि। भाइ फुटे गबार लुटे ।जुट्ने समय हो यो, जुध्ने होइन ,जहिल्यै नचाहिने कुरामा मात्र बहस नगरौ न एस्ता कुराहरु हामी कसैको हितमा हुदैन ।

    • @Unknown-p9x6w
      @Unknown-p9x6w Місяць тому

      Tyaita hajur ! Ahile ghari Rai haru chahindo vanda jyada batteh hunu khojdaichha ! Aareh Rai hoina Khambu hareh, kaslei vanyo. Rai hamilai Samman garera diyeko Path/Title ho, Shah raja lei hamilai Samman gareko ho ! Kya Rai hoinan.
      Chamling Bantawa haru chai thulo Rai hareh, Kaha ko reh !? Rai jati ma kahile Varana/Caste system nai thiyena ! Pachhi Khambu haru lei Aapnako ho. Lohorung, Kulung, Khaling, Chamling, Bantawa, sabai ek nai hun. Matra vinnata yati chha ki, Chamling, Bantawa haru lei chai pachi Goru khanu chade, tara hunu ta sabai samanya ho. Rai haru lei Caste chhitawu thiyena ! Sabai lei kaan kholera sunnu. Jaat chhutauthyo tara Caste hoina.
      Jaat vaneko ek samuha (ethnic group), Caste vaneko varana, jasma kaam ko anusaar chhutayincha euta samuha lai, Caste matra char huncha Kshatriya, Brahmin, Vaisa, ani Sudra. Rai haru kehi ma pardaina ! Jun Rai lei Goru chode tini haru lai thulo paath diye, Brahmin padaunu sake, tara aaru haru lei garenan ! Yo matrai ho vinnata keh chha aru vinnata !? Kei chaina ! Matra Hindu apnayi pachhi hamilei yo Caste system aapnayeko ho !
      Rai haru ko tasai karan lei kunai Caste ma jagha chaina kina vane Rai haru lei Palan gardainan. Sabai Rai ko afnoi Raja, Bhasa,.... Hunthe tara culture vane chai eutai (same). Yadi Rai caste ma parthyo vane matra Ksatriya Rai ko Raja hune thiyo, tara Sabai Rai ko afnoi Raja huncha, Sabai Rai lei Khet ko kaam garchha, sabai rai lei kapda unne kaam garchha ! Lu vannu ta aba, Kun Rai chai Ksatriya, Kun Rai chai vaisha, ra kun Rai chai Sudra ho ? Sabai lei ekai kaam garchhe khoi kun Rai kun caste ko ho !?
      Tapai haru lai sabut/saput chahiye ko thiyo hoina lu yo ho sabut. Sabai Purana, Veda ko gyan diye. Aajhai jannu man chha vaneko vannu !

    • @PhilosopherX-y7s
      @PhilosopherX-y7s Місяць тому

      Guhu kha lade haru moreko lass bhak

  • @arunrai9691
    @arunrai9691 Місяць тому +3

    म चाही राई हो है
    राई हुनुमा मलाई गर्भ छ
    चाहे पदबी होस् वा नहोस्,
    राई होइन भन्नेहरू कालान्तरमा पछुताउने छन्,

  • @Santosh.bantawa.rai.-k1z
    @Santosh.bantawa.rai.-k1z 2 місяці тому +2

    ❤.jai.kirat.❤❤.

  • @Rajanchamlingrai
    @Rajanchamlingrai 2 місяці тому +3

    आजभोलि राई हरु छुट्टीएर देख्दा चाहिँ दु:ख लाग्छ । जस्तै कि थुलुङ कुलुङ लगायत धेरै हरु राई हैनौ भन्छन ।

    • @Unknown-p9x6w
      @Unknown-p9x6w Місяць тому

      Tyaita hajur ! Ahile ghari Rai haru chahindo vanda jyada batteh hunu khojdaichha ! Aareh Rai hoina Khambu hareh, kaslei vanyo. Rai hamilai Samman garera diyeko Path/Title ho, Shah raja lei hamilai Samman gareko ho ! Kya Rai hoinan.
      Chamling Bantawa haru chai thulo Rai hareh, Kaha ko reh !? Rai jati ma kahile Varana/Caste system nai thiyena ! Pachhi Khambu haru lei Aapnako ho. Lohorung, Kulung, Khaling, Chamling, Bantawa, sabai ek nai hun. Matra vinnata yati chha ki, Chamling, Bantawa haru lei chai pachi Goru khanu chade, tara hunu ta sabai samanya ho. Rai haru lei Caste chhitawu thiyena ! Sabai lei kaan kholera sunnu. Jaat chhutauthyo tara Caste hoina.
      Jaat vaneko ek samuha (ethnic group), Caste vaneko varana, jasma kaam ko anusaar chhutayincha euta samuha lai, Caste matra char huncha Kshatriya, Brahmin, Vaisa, ani Sudra. Rai haru kehi ma pardaina ! Jun Rai lei Goru chode tini haru lai thulo paath diye, Brahmin padaunu sake, tara aaru haru lei garenan ! Yo matrai ho vinnata keh chha aru vinnata !? Kei chaina ! Matra Hindu apnayi pachhi hamilei yo Caste system aapnayeko ho !
      Rai haru ko tasai karan lei kunai Caste ma jagha chaina kina vane Rai haru lei Palan gardainan. Sabai Rai ko afnoi Raja, Bhasa,.... Hunthe tara culture vane chai eutai (same). Yadi Rai caste ma parthyo vane matra Ksatriya Rai ko Raja hune thiyo, tara Sabai Rai ko afnoi Raja huncha, Sabai Rai lei Khet ko kaam garchha, sabai rai lei kapda unne kaam garchha ! Lu vannu ta aba, Kun Rai chai Ksatriya, Kun Rai chai vaisha, ra kun Rai chai Sudra ho ? Sabai lei ekai kaam garchhe khoi kun Rai kun caste ko ho !?
      Tapai haru lai sabut/saput chahiye ko thiyo hoina lu yo ho sabut. Sabai Purana, Veda ko gyan diye. Aajhai jannu man chha vaneko vannu !

    • @Rajanchamlingrai
      @Rajanchamlingrai Місяць тому

      @Unknown-p9x6w पुङ न पुछार के लेख्या हौ के भनेको के भन्छ हैट । पूरा पुर कुरा बुझ्नु नि अनि लेख्नु हैट

    • @Unknown-p9x6w
      @Unknown-p9x6w Місяць тому

      ​@@Rajanchamlingrai kina ni ? Ke galat vane ? Vane vane malai marga darshan dekhayi dinu hola !

    • @Rajanchamlingrai
      @Rajanchamlingrai Місяць тому

      @@Unknown-p9x6w हिज आज केही राई बंश का राई हरु ले आफ्नो नागरिक्ता बाट राई हटाएर कुलुङ थुलुङ लोहोरुङ मात्रै लेख्न थाले जस हरु ले हामी राई नै हैनौ कुलुङ हौ राई हैनौ भन्ने गर्छन् । ती सुन्दा देख्दा चाहिँ दु:ख लाग्छ भनेको मैले । जेजे पाछा का राई हरु एक थियौ त्यो रहन्न भनेको मैले ।

    • @Unknown-p9x6w
      @Unknown-p9x6w Місяць тому +1

      @@Rajanchamlingrai hajur ani moile ke naramro vane !? Sabai sahi ta vene !!! Tara tapai ko reply ko lagi sahi na bheyeko karan lei tapai lai naramro lageko ho vanne moile thaneko chhu !
      Moile yo tapai lai matrai kaha vaneko hora. Pachhi aru lei pani dekhus asliyat vanera Tini haru lai vaneko ho. Hernua na moile dherai Comment ma Reply diyeko chhu.
      Mo pani ta Chamling nai hu !

  • @DhankumarRai-t8n
    @DhankumarRai-t8n 2 місяці тому +2

    हामी राई होइनौ भन्नेहरु छितकी पातकीहरु हुन््।

  • @hangsaPanlungwa
    @hangsaPanlungwa Місяць тому

    राइ पदबि हो यो पदबि लिम्बु भारतीय क्षेत्री लगायत धेरैले लिएको छ

  • @Manlilaclub
    @Manlilaclub Місяць тому +1

    म किरांत समुदायको राई !!

  • @lalangnembang961
    @lalangnembang961 2 місяці тому +2

    जय किरात

  • @dbvlogger1701
    @dbvlogger1701 Місяць тому

    अलिकति पढदैमा बिदुवान बन्ने काेसिस गर्नु भनेकाे मुर्खता मात्र हाे।

  • @UsernameLeeveeng
    @UsernameLeeveeng Місяць тому

    हामी लिम्बु हरू यस्तो उस्तो जात सात हैन हामी मंगोलोइड अस्तित्व को सिंगो नेपाल खाल्डो काे मूलवासी हो। तिमि हरु जता सुकै बाटो बिताउँदै जाऊँ नो कम्प्लेन। किराँत ककेसियन लाई भन्छ भनेर भारत काे भिल् समुदायले भन्ने गर्छ उनिहरु ब्ल्याक सियन रहेछ । लिम्बू हरू येललोसियन हो।। जो एसियन रेस भित्र पर्छ।।

  • @Unknown-p9x6w
    @Unknown-p9x6w Місяць тому +1

    Rai hoinan Khambu ho ! Kulung, Lohorung, haru sabai tallo darja ko Rai. Khambu chamling hoina, Rai ho...... Kya murkh jasto prashna ra uttar ho yo !
    1. Khambu, Rai kasari hoina ?
    Rai nai Khambu ho. Khambuwan mathi jaba Shah lei jit hasil gareh, hami nepali vayou. Khambu lai Shah lei samman garera Rai pathlTitle diye. Rai parwate vasha bata aayeko sabdha ho, jasko matalab ho Loyal, Noble,......
    Hamilei Limbu vanchhow, tara tini haru lei afulai Yakthung vancha, Sikkim ma Tsong vancha. Ta ke Limbu Yakthung hoina Tsong hoina ? Ho ni. Tara aru haru lei afnui vasha ma naam diyeko matrai ho.
    Ke Dahilo Door hoina ? Ho ni tara Vasa anusaar naam badli vayeki matra ho.
    2. Kulung, Lohorung haru tallo jaat ho !
    Kaslei vanyo timi haru lai ? Rai jaat ho, Caste hoina.
    Caste jaat ho, tara sabai jaat caste hoina ! Rai lei Caste system follow nai garthiyena. Jaat vaneko ethnic group ho, ek samuha ho. Caste jaat ho tara kaam anusaar chhutayiyeko jaat ho ! Caste matra Char prakar ko huncha, Kshatriya, Brahmin, Vaisa, ani Sudra.
    Rai lei caste system follow garthiyo vane vannus ta kun Rai kun Caste ko ho ? Sabai Rai ko afnui Raja hunchha, Afnui bhasa hunchha,.... Tara sankriti eutai ho. Lu vanus ta abo kun Rai kshatriya ho ? Sabai Rai ko Raja chha ta ke sabai Kshatriya ho ? Sabai Rai lei khet ko kaam garchha, ke Sabai Rai haru Vaisa hun ? Hoina ni. Sabai Rai, Rai hun.
    Farak matra yati chha ki Chamling, Bantawa Rai haru lei Goru khanu chade. Yaso hunda, tini haru lei Brahmin padauna sake. Aaru haru lei sakena, tini haru lei Goru khana chadena. Goru Aryan ko nimti pavitra vayeko karan lei. Yo matrai ho vinnata ! Aaru ke chha vinnata.
    Yasai karan lei, pandit haru lei pani vaana sakdainan kun Rai kun Caste ma parchha. Hamro Gotra pani hundaina. Khasi, lhasa vanchha, tara sachhai ma vannu parda, hamro chhai pahila dekhi thiyena.
    3. Rai haru mulvasi hun Adivasi hoina.
    Kaslei vanyo. Adivasi vannu laj/Sharam lagchha reh ! Adivasi hoina vannu ma laj lagnu parne ho timi haru lai.
    Adi → Pahilo, Vasi → Vasinda. Yasai karan lei hami Adivasi hum. Yahako hami pahilo jaati hum. Sampurna nepal ko hoina ni, purwa nepal (kathmandu pani) matrai ho ! Pachhim nepal ta Tamu, Magar, Tamang, haru ko ho !
    Hami yaas thauko aasli manish/jaati hum. Rai ra Limbu ko itihaas matra hoina, Shah haru ko itihaas lei pani vanchha, Hami haru Adivasi hum, yaha ko mul vasi.
    Yaha moile gakat vane ma Marga Darshan dekhai dinu hola !!!

  • @DG.51299
    @DG.51299 Місяць тому +2

    राई भनेको थक हो बाहुन जस्तै हो लिम्बु भनेको झोले हो

    • @Unknown-p9x6w
      @Unknown-p9x6w Місяць тому

      Jhole, thak vaneko ke ho ? Bujhina ! Vanidinu vaye ramaro hune thiyo hajur ! Hauwa !

  • @RadungMedia
    @RadungMedia 2 місяці тому +2

    मुन्धुममा 'किराँत' शब्दै छैन। ''किराँत'' त बाहुनको गाली शब्द हो, उपन्यासमा छ ! त्यसैले हामी 'मँगोल मूलबासी' भनिराछौ !
    मूलबासी वाणी !

    • @Unknown-p9x6w
      @Unknown-p9x6w Місяць тому

      Ke Mongol mulvasi chai Mundum ma Cha ta !? Kirati vanus ki, Asur Vanus ke farak pardachha ? Tini haru ko bhasa ma hami tyo nai hum. Hamilei po Limbu vanchhum, tini haru lei ta afulai Yakthung vanchha, ta ke tini haru Limbu hoina ?
      Dahilo lai english ma Door vancha, ke dahilo r door arkoi ho ?
      Adivasi vannu ma laj lagcha ? Hoina vannu ma laj lagnu parrney ho ! Adi vaneko Pahilo vasne vaneko Vasinda. Chettri haru vanda pani pahilo vaseko karan hami adivasi ho ! Murkh jasto ke vani rahko hana !
      Thaha chha, Chettri, Newar haru lei afu lai Adivasi vandai chha ! Timi haru lai kundin Sachai ma hoina vanidinchha, ani tolrera heri rahanu ! Tyas pachhi chai afnoi desh ma refugees vayera basnu !
      Hami Mulbasi, Adivasi !

  • @Payangushivak
    @Payangushivak 2 місяці тому +1

    बानतावा सङ्ग याक्थुङ लिम्बुको 80% भासा मिल्छ रे कति हास्नु 😂😂 केहि सब्द एक दर्जन जति होला सायद मिल्ने , एकाध सब्द त दुनियाको अरु जाति सङ्ग पनि मिल्न जान्छ ।

  • @kirawa2045
    @kirawa2045 2 місяці тому

    😍👍

  • @tararai7336
    @tararai7336 Місяць тому

    Hami kirat bhaneko aadhibasi janajati ho ma dumi ho but rai,limbu,akkha,sunuwar,Gurung, taming,meche, koche,ratbangshi,serpa,vote,lepchakoche I Don know what's you know you write ✍️

  • @deepwalahangrai6861
    @deepwalahangrai6861 Місяць тому

    😂😂😂राई जाती रे 😂😂😂 !
    म चै बान्तवा जाती को वालीहाड पाछा ल ! म राई होईन खम्बु चै भन्नु मील्छ !

    • @Unknown-p9x6w
      @Unknown-p9x6w Місяць тому

      Hauwa ! Rai vaneko chai hamilai samman garera diyeko path ho ! Shah haru Indo Aryan, parwate vayeko karan lek garda waha lei hamilai parvate path diyeko ho ! Path vaneko chai Title vaneko ni !
      Rai vanna lei Loyalti, Nobility,.... Bujhauchha !
      Ahile ko Rai/Khambu haru lai keh vayisakyo, mo ta achmma parchu reh !
      Jasari Limbu lai Subba vaniyo tyasari nai Shah raja lei hamilai Rai vanera samman diyeko ho !

  • @sajanrai2356
    @sajanrai2356 2 місяці тому +1

    Adibasi hoina

    • @Unknown-p9x6w
      @Unknown-p9x6w Місяць тому

      Adivasi hoina vannu laj lagdaina !? Adi vaneko Pahilo, Vasi vaneko Vasinda ho ! Yaso nai vani rahanu, pachhi chai bideshi vanidincha tollera heriranu !
      Thaha chha ki, social media ma Chettri, Newar ani Magar (Malai Magar lei yasto gareko dekhta chai thodai dukha lagyo) haru lei ke gardai chha ! Tini haru lei afu lai Adivasi vanera, Rai ra Limbu pachhi China bata aayeko vandai chha !
      Timi haru chai tyonai vandai basa lo !

  • @sagarmatha639
    @sagarmatha639 2 місяці тому +1

    Yo rai limbu lai yeutai nepal bhayeko man pardainaki keho khali rajye lutyo matrai bhancha

    • @Unknown-p9x6w
      @Unknown-p9x6w Місяць тому

      Hoina ki manta parcha, tara Chetri, Bahun, Newar haru lei Ahile ghari afu lai Adivasi vani, hamailai chai Mongol ko ho vanne garcha ke yasai karaan lei manoardai na. Limbuwan ta jiteko pani ta hoina, tara ahile chai Chettri haru lei yaso vanda sachai ma afno desh luteko jasto lagchha kya !
      Purwa Nepal ta hami haruko honi. Hamilei vaneko chow na aw vanera ? Hoina ni. Tara ayera hamilai nai afnu thauma vasnu nadiye, hamilai nai afnu thauma bideshi vane ho vaneta kaha sahane ho !?
      Rai ra Limbu ko itihaas matra hoina, Shah haruko itihaas ma pani vaniyeko chha, purwa nepal hamiharu (Rai, Limbu, Sunuwar, Dewan ) ko ho vanera tara yaha vane chai abo chettri, newar haru lei afnui itihaas, hamro itihaas masnu khojdaichha, yasai karan lei hami lai ta yo sabai sariyantra lageko ho !
      Malai pani lagachha, Rai lei hare pani, limbu ta hareko thiyena, Kina Shah ko rajya ma jodeko hola !? Jasto lagachha gadi gadi how !!!
      Newar, Chettri ta yas purwa nepal ko adivasi hoina ni, Tara abo yaso vanda ta khun kholdaina ? Vanus ta !? Yasto nakaratmak soch uni haru ko sariyantra ho vane chai, hamile thaha payou vane chai, boru India wa China (Tibet) sangai janu niko. Nava tin bhai (Sunuwar, Rai, Limbu) lei afnai chhutai rajya banaye ramro !

  • @sajanrai2356
    @sajanrai2356 2 місяці тому +1

    Indo pasima nepali haru lai ulu banaudi x