Ruger PC Carbine
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- Опубліковано 15 жов 2024
- Paul tests the Ruger PC Carbine along with other pistol caliber carbines.
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Sorry that I'm a bit late getting around to watch your videos. I tend to be preoccupied with my own virtual endeavors and whatever "real world" life I can squeeze in. Have seen several this weekend and just wanted to say that I find your work very interesting. I love your slightly quirky personality, and believe me; I know "quirky"!!! I generally speed right on past "quirky" into the "weirdo" category myself, and I'm proud of it. :-)
I've not seen everything you've done, but it's very obvious you have REAL experience and know what your're talking about, not to mention being very articulate, as well.
I see lots of common sense regarding firearms and ammo in your videos, often on topics where quite a lot of people tend to fly off into all sorts of myths and misconceptions. You provide lots and lots of useful little tips that I hope your viewers appreciate.
Take care! Hickok45
Thanks. That means a lot coming from you.
Hi, Hickok45!!
This made me smile. It's cool to see people in this world collide in good ways, like that one where Hickok reviews guns he doesn't like.
Love Hickok45 and Paul. Maybe they should make a few videos together?
Kurt Krieger I think that’s a great idea! They could spend a week getting videotaped and edit it into a couple of months of releases. Include the guy from USOG. I’d watch them just talking about guns.
*About your regular lines, like 'you be the judge!" - I LIKE the ones you use - they fit my hand better! And such lines are NOT old or boring, they are CLASSIC and have become part of the modern day gunner's vocabulary! So keep it up and bravo to you sir!*
ditto
Agreed.
Don't feel the need to try out new phrases - the ones you are using communicate the subject matter well. After all that is the reason for language.
Let those that would suggest doing something different, make their own channel. I'll gladly watch, and I'll be the judge. And...more gun channels...cool!
Do they get the point across? You be the judge
When watching with subtitles, UA-cam’s algorithm mistakes gunfire and the subsequent report for applause. I find this accurate.
Accurate or not, at least highly appreciated :-D
Kinda makes me happy knowing that.
😂
I've noticed that too, I love it.
"You be the judge", the gold standard, needs no change. You could say, "make up your own d##n mind" but that would confuse those who don't. Stick with what works, it's a trademark now.
I like the you be the judge as well. It let's the viewer digest the evidence as presented.
You just don't mess with success!
Yes, leave your “You be the judge” as that is your signature & that can’t be dated. The other endings make sound like a dufus.
Why don't we ask the meat target?
Don't change a thing Paul. Love your presentations and phrases just the way they are!
Axiomatic...caveat...ad astra...meat target...Shatneresque pauses...with all that being said...Yay! It's another Paul Harrell video!
And,with all that to choose from, they complained about" you be the judge "???
sfcablecar don’t forget the *YABBITS!!!!*
Remington calls it metal-case.
We're on UA-cam today, so please bear with any idiocy and/or trolling you may read in the comments section. Are any of those people serious? You be the judge.
So how’d we do?
I like this guy! He just tells it like it is. No BS, no spin, just facts. He is not presumptive or arrogant. He has a quiet confidence. Good job!
Chronographs don’t always agree with each other and certain environmental factors like elevation and ambient temperature can affect chronograph results.
Ask your doctor if chronograph is right for you.
If your chronograph reading remains on the screen for more than four hours, consult a physician immediately.
HAHAHA
rjcass33 my Dr. believes nothing . He only says “ hmm, hmmm, aha, hmmm. So I’m sure he would agree
cjhyde78 Thanks , Good thing I have plenty of people telling me what to do. A man can’t entrusted with his own welfare. That’s what everyone says. It must be gospel!
Use responsibly, take only as directed ... 😄
Been waiting all week for a video that fits my hand this well.
Paul I can't explain this but when I watch your videos I feel like I'm 30 years in the past in a good way and it keeps me coming back
We need "You be the judge." T-shirts.
On the back, they say “this T-shirt fits my torso better.”
I'd buy one.
I’ll buy a few myself!!
Yes.
Don't try this at home; I'm what you call a professional would look great too.
get a notification from Paul and instantly clicked off of the video I was watching to watch his newest presentation.
Saaaame
Yes, the true history of the Ides of March can wait.
I do the same
Paul Harrell makes America great.
Your phrases aren't getting old. We really enjoy your presentations and I very often learn from them. Keep it up!
Paul Harvey managed for 56 years with a couple of phrases. Paul Harrell hasn't worn his out yet.
Those people should go watch videos of bearded loud mouths if they need more edgy content.
@@kftc1980 I've written and presented training material for over 2 decades unfortunately when you think you're too redundant you'll find some people who need reminded just a bit more. Paul's doing fine!
A good catch phrase is like the mountains: They don't grow old, they just weather well . . .
Paul Harrell.....I wish there were more Paul Harrell's in the world. (Take that as a compliment as it was meant as a compliment.)
Paul Harrell IS a national treasure. Keep it up Paul, it's much appreciated.
I agree. I would say he could be the President, but I like him too much to put him through that.
Paul Harrell is a level I aspire to.
@@AZURLITENTERTAINMENT I would love to have Paul give an education to all our sitting politicians on firearms. Maybe then they could tell the difference between an automatic, a semi-automatic, and a single fire firearm. And then they at least could not claim that a .223 / 5.56 is as powerful as a .50 BMG, and claim ignorance when confronted about it.
Douglas Warden lol the boomer posts
Paul Harrell is simply the best. I'd watch him do a review on butter knives!
Paul, tnoutdoors9, GodFamilyGuns, hickock45, TheFirearmsGuy, and IV8888
Or dental floss. Maybe even tooth picks and home-knitten socks . . .
@GYPSY KING FURY Is this butter knife the right butter knife for both butter *AND* margarine? *YOU* be the judge . . .
@@thomasraahauge5231 "However, the Beretta butter knife can *also* be used for spreading Nutella, Peanutbutter, and even grape jelly. And it works equally well in either right or left hand! Furthermore, I have never had a single malfunction, even when spreading cream cheese on a toasted onion bagel. Again, folks, don't try this at home, I'm what you call a professional."
If ammo prices keep going the way they have you will.
"Don't try this on earth, I'm what you call a space alien, and until next time remember, resistance is futile!"
Resistance is not futile. It is voltage divided by current.
Holy shit
Never give up never surrender
I have a PC Carbine. I too have “aging eyes”. Shoots ok with stock sights. Put a $20 red dot on it and GREATLY improved the accuracy. Also have a G19 so I changed out the mag well. Works great with G19 mags, G17 mags and fun sticks. Hundreds of rounds, no malfunctions, although the brass has lots of soot on it.
Paul, your “catch phrases” are fine. I enjoy all of them, please do not discontinue. As far as your “speech impediment”, never noticed it. And your “shatneresque” pauses, never noticed. As always, love your videos. Craig, C/2/16 1st Inf Div. 1969
I, also, swapped the mag wells to the Glock mags. Good 3rd party Glock mags are much easier, and less expensive, to find than Ruger mags.
What model red dot did you put on for $20?
Might I recommend a Holosun 507c or a 508t? It costs a bit more than $20 but has shown its self to be very durable
I like adding your unit is cool. 2FA 1st Armored Division
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I wish I could talk like this guy. Some people just have this incredible ability to talk without stuttering or stopping to have to think, Paul's one of em. So intelligent on all matters gun. Really enjoy watching these vids.
Rehearsal and editing
@@richarddilorenzo8188 mostly rehearsal/planning
@@gutyourtrust Agreed. A big part of teaching is communicating concisely and even just one or two practices of a presentation makes a world of difference.
Rest In Peace Paul
No. He will not.
@@redraiderrider3289 Play in traffic bum
Bought my Ruger PC Carbine nearly 2 years ago when they first came out. Thousands and thousands of rounds later I still love that thing shooting it at least a few times a month. Mine has a nice trigger and is very accurate. Great video. Subscribed.
Uses glock as well
The Rugar is what I'm looking at. Especially since I found out it can use Glock magazines. I'll probably get one in another month or so.
@Fred Freddy I added a Solosight to mine. Nice red dot.
Only one issue for me: It’s heavy for a take down. Off to the gym I go😆
Does have bolt lock open on last round fired? Especially with Glock mags?
Always love Paul's evaluations. My experience with my PC Carbine is much different. My aging eyes do better with a scope, so I put a 1-4 power variable scope on my Ruger PC Carbine. Not having sighted it in, I began at 10 yards, and after putting a hole in the target, I failed to see any other holes from my subsequent rounds. Upon approaching the target, I found all my rounds produced a single hole not much larger than a 9mm bullet. I was impressed, to say the least, so I sighted it in and went to 15 yards, where I was able to place all rounds in a single, slightly ragged hole. So far, all I had used was some 30 year old, cheap, brass colored Chinese ammo. I found that my Underwood, +P, Extreme Defender, 65 grain ammo, was just as accurate, although the point of aim changed by about an inch. Losing the Iron sights, proved to me that this carbine is capable of exceptional accuracy. I will have to Chrono the Underwood ammo, but I'm guessing MV will exceed 2000 FPS (close range deer a possibility?) I had zero problems with function, and am very impressed with the PC carbine. I have no connection to Ruger, or any other manufacturer, but I am impressed.
That's a great point. It was a very good video, and he did mention the short sight radius was easily rectified, but it would have been even better to see a comparison between the Ruger PC Carbine and the Beretta CX4 Storm both scoped with the exact same glass or red or green dot optic. Maybe Paul will use some patreon money to purchase two or three identical Holosuns that he can make direct comparisons with.
I have to say I purchased this on a impulse buy for a decent (california) price. It being a Ruger it was practically a given that it would be reliable. I also knew that it being a Ruger that at least in my experience, it would likely be very inaccurate out of the box like my old mini 14. When I finally got a chance to shoot it I was correct on the reliability. Hundreds of rounds of different stripes, zero hiccups. Both the ruger mags and the included glock well worked great.
I was DEAD WRONG about the accuracy out of the box with the Iron sights. Similar to like how you described I saw the first hits from about 15 yards. Many rounds went thru the exact same relative entry point. I was very impressed. I think I'll pick up another one if I can find it.
I have a PC carbine (using Glock magazines) with an EOTech red dot sight mounted and I have to say out to 100 meters it is shooting groups within 2-3 inches (Federal 115 grain)...about the maximum I would employ it with 9mm. My wife and I (both ex military and LEO) think it is a great carbine right out of the box. We are both really impressed with it.
Good point. The barrel is good quality and is capable of good accuracy. A simple 4x scope made mine very accurate. . That Ghost ring works ok for quick shots but not for any distance.
Same feelings here. I like the Ruger and can't see squat without a scope. So the dislike of the sights doesn't really help me evaluate how the Ruger will perform for me.
Tell them to shove it. We that have been watching a long time love your catch phrases.
I hope he never changes to please the spoiled brats.
Yep. Don't change, Paul. You have your following because of who you are, what you do and the way you present.
Paul i still like the way you say "you be the judge" and start and ending. I learn a lot from your channel. Thank you very much. God bless you.
Greetings from the Czech Republic. About a half a year ago I bought the Ruger PCC, since then I´ve put around 400 rounds through it and not a single malfunction.
I´ve also tried different loads, even ones that are very weak and it chewed through everything. The only thing I don´t like is the takedown feature, because if you do not
tighten the barrel correctly, it shoots horrible. That being said I put a Vortex Crossfire red dot on it and am being able to get 5 cm(2 inch) groups at 50 meters(55 feet).
The reason why I bought the ruger was the cost since Evo and Ar9 cost around 32500 crowns (+-1500 dollars), and ruger costs 18500 (+-840 dollars).
The weight is good thing for me since I don´t carry it around and it keeps the shots in place. I can only recommend.
A new Paul Harrell video and holy hell its almost 37 minutes long, my day is complete.
Paul's catchphrases are, like knowing, half the battle.
Cobra!
Stark Parker knowing may be half the battle, but the other half is violence
For the record, if it fits, wear it. My Ruger PC9 Carbine fits me and has been a ( fun gun ) to shoot. I did mount an optic and weapon light and have a 32 round Glock mag inserted. I use +p ammo and have had no issues with function. It is my favorite bedside weapon. Good video!
Right on
Patrick Davis at first I thought you were Wolverine.
And there is the reason for its’ existence.. Stops home invasion dead in its tracks.
Exactly, Glock 19 on nightstand for wifey, plenty of mags for both!
Glad I'm not alone in adoring my PC9! For the same reasons, too!
Keep it up, Paul. I bet nearly everyone watching your content wouldn't change a thing about your presentation style.
Who else would like to go watch paul in person doing demonstrations
me honestly
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I'm seeing the Paul Harrell Stadium.
I think he'd sell out stadiums.
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Such a great teacher, and Paul's teachings live forever!
I was thinking of getting one of these and found his video at the perfect time. Rip paul, thank you for everything.
"You be the Judge" is a perfect way to say what you are saying and let others take it as they will
You just can't replace that catch phrase. Not without angering the catch phrase gods, and who wants to do that?
Paul took a detailed subject and broke it down professionally. I personally like pistol caliber carbines, and agree their blowback design seems to add to felt recoil. A 9mm +p round out of a 16 inch barrel carbine can be a show stopper to be sure.
Yes it can a very overlooked tool
My father was an Army Ranger stationed in the Panama Canal Zone during WWII. His squad/patrol slept in tents from the north (Pacific Ocean) to the south (Atlantic Ocean) while they looked for Jap and Nazi soldiers who were trying to shut down the canal. Everyone in his patrol had a choice of weapons. No one would touch an M1 carbine. He said in a fire-fight, the carbine was worthless compared to the M1 Garand. He was in one or more of these encounters with the Nazis. He talked me out of buying a used M1 carbine in the late 60's because of his story. That rifle had been used in Europe against the Germans. Now, I wish I would have bought it because of its history. Paul, all of your videos are worth watching. Thanks.
Paul: I can’t shoot this rifle very well.
Me: I wish I had his accuracy.
Even Paul's most "embarrassing" results would make most people proud.
Paul is a beast. My Chrono would be screwed
FM: Me too buddy, but I'm not what you'd call a professional.
Florida Man Edo Hypnotoad Evangelist oof!!!
No joke man as i wish that every time i watch this guy. I mean have you watched him fire off the M1 and M1A!?!
I got my pcc last year, put on a sig optic, switched to glock mags, put 33 rounders through it dozens of times. NO malfunctions even with the cheapest steel cased ammo. easily 2,000 rounds down range.
Great Video! I have Owned a Ruger PC9 since Nov 2018 and i have added an Aluminum Chassis System from Midwest Industries plus swapped out a few Parts to make it Bulletproof like the Bolt Pins, Recoil Spring Retention Clip and Buffer over the past 2 years and I have also fired well over 3 thousand rounds without ANY MALFUNCTIONS! I am not sure if you were aware but the barrel band is adjustable and can aid in accuracy. I also added a Holosun 503CU with the 2 MOA dot and 65 MOA Circle similar to an Eotech Reticle my personal Favorite Red Dot. I swapped over to the Glock magazine Magwell the day I purchased the rifle because I have Glocks and prefer their OEM magazines. I have been looking for a 40SW version of the Ruger PCC now for the last year but I have not been able to find one but I am still looking because I do carry a Glock 22 or 23 often and the magazine interchangeability I think would be a Great thing!
the sound difference between ammo types was really distinctive, did not think that would be so pronounced.
Subsonic
Yep! That was the 147 grainers
not only subs, they all sound different with different bullet weight, even the supersonics
My gf has the PCC Ruger. Its short enough because she has TRex arms.
She loves it and the rest of us really enjoy shooting it as well.
Never had a problem with ammo.
We love you so much Paul.
Even though it’s bittersweet, I still laugh and learn from you brother.
What I find keeps bringing me back to Paul’s videos is his character and the matter of fact way he presents information. A big part of what makes these videos special are the catch phrases and sarcastic humour. Keep it up!!!
My Ruger PC9 runs glock mags and I love it :)
Really enjoy your video analysis's, You and Hickok45 are the best. I purchased a Ruger PCC yesterday and found it to be quite excellent RIGHT OUT OF THE BOX. Only shot it 25 yards with the irons but found it to be spot on. The rear sight fits my eye quite well in that I am far sighted and find the rear sight on many rifles hard to see clearly. I put 200 rounds thru it, different makes and bullet weights and no malfunctions whatsoever. Using several types of Glock mags, from gen 1 to 4 and no problems. Going to put a red dot on it today and see what it will do at longer range.
Ok, I *DID* actually laugh out loud at the “meddling kids” ending!!!!
The only thing that needs to be changed about your catch phrases is..... *WE WANT SHIRTS WITH THEM ON THEM!!!!!!!*
As one who watched Scooby Doo i really enjoyed that one XD.
I would take two shirts ..... size Large! "You be the the judge"
Finna Sprang; yea! Baby yea!
Signed;Mr. Herbert from Family Guy
“I’m whatcha call a Professinol.”
or “Do try this at home and quit being a little bitch about it”
I like the PC carbine but wish it came in a "pistol" configuration
Or bullpup, there was a company back in the day that made one for the marlin camp 9, maybe someone will make them for the new crop of pcc’s
It does now. On Ruger website
It's only a matter of time now. The new "chassis" model has a pic-rail stock mount already so all they'll have to do is create a shorter fore-end. 8"-10" with an mlok handguard would be perfect imo.
There's a 6.5" version now. I know that's shorter than some people were hoping for, but apparently people can happily ring plates with it at 100 yards, and the extremely compact size means you can have a large suppressor on it and still have a very convenient takedown size.
It does. It's called the PC "charger"
One of these was shot in my Gunsite class with a simple sig Romeo red dot, and other than the range limitation of the cartridge, it performed extremely well. Honestly everybody was impressed. After what I saw and shooting a few rounds myself I wouldn't hesitate using or recommending one. ...and it's a takedown!
If it was more carbine in size and weight, there would be no need for a takedown.
@@onpsxmember I don't really see the two as mutually exclusive?
@@SaftonYT
It isn't, it was a pointer towards the weight and overall size which is atypical for a a carbine. While it's nice to take it apart, I joked that taking it apart made it able to share the weight between two people.
@@onpsxmember Fair enough.
“Don’t try this at home, I’m what you call a professional.
ShaZAM!”
This is Paul Harrell. If anything, it should be a "Sha-boom"...
BAZINGA
Start adding some Mr. Rogers lines in there to spice things up.
"I'm what you call an adult, and thanks for being my neighbor!"
Now that is funny
Truth be told as much as I like firearms I do not want to live next to a full time gun range.
haha
Ha
I don't disagree with any of your observations but I own a Ruger 9mm PC carbine and can share what I like about it. The two features that inspired me to look into it were the take down and ability to use Glock magazines. Broken down, it fits in a backpack and that works for me as a truck gun. I can bring the Ruger PC carbine, a Glock 17 or 19, and 300-400 rounds for a day on a range in a backpack with room left for eye and hearing protection, etc. As for reliability, I haven't fired the variety of ammo you fired in the demo but I have not had a single malfunction yet with several types. If I could only have one rifle, this would probably not be it but I have been happy with it. I wouldn't trade it for my AR and my EDC is not the SR-9 but for what it does, the Ruger PC carbine works for me. Thank you for putting it through it's paces!
I have had zero malfunctions in mt Ruger PC9 carbine and have fired over 6 various ammos of 6 various ammo companies. and have shot several hundred total rounds. LOVE this gun.
30:21... Is that a smile I see beginning to form after your usual disclaimers? 😂😁 Thanks for the upload and for continuing to share your education and observations with us Paul!!!
Also that ending had me in tears 🤣
mine performed similar to what he has shown. then i switch to 124 grain flat point and the accuracy improved tremendously. then when i put a red dot on it. it is a tack driver at 50 yard. very happy with the product. and this was and awesome video showing the differences. love this channel
The location of the rear sight on the Ruger PCC is actually an enormous attraction for me. Being 60 yo but still having 20/15 vision it works well for me because I, as most all people beyond their late 40's, require Reading Glasses for anything up to about 18". I even added all the spacers on my stock, increasing the pull but also giving me a usable sight picture. The ability to use Glock Magazines in it is also another huge plus for me. I love my old P95 but the mags won't work. The cut out in the mag body that catches the Magazine Latch is in a different place so without modification i.e. gettin' Farmer on it with a Dremel, they won't work.
Good video Paul. Just a couple notes about the CX4. It can be bought configured to the PX4 or the 92 and you can change out the magwell adapter for either model of pistol. I think the adapter runs around $40. The other thing is that there are 1/2" spacers to change the length of pull of on the CX4, I believe a total of 2". Sierra Pappa's trigger upgrades do help quite a bit.
The Marlin comes with a magazine compatible with the S&W 6900 Series, which was the short/compact series of the 5900 series and had 12 round mags. I had a Marlin Carbine and the mags would swap from the S&W Model 6906 or the earlier 469 Compact 9mm. The Carbine and the 69 series pistols would also take the 5900 series mags, although they would protrude from the mag well. In fact my reload mags were from my S&W 5906 I carried at one time.
"Don't try this at home; I'm what you call a professional. And Hi-Ho Silver...AWAY!"
Perfection!
You found it!! ROFL
"Don't try this at home; I'm what you call a professional Bang Zoom Straight to the moon Alice!"
I kinda liked the Scooby Doo, but no...Stick with the old stand by. Screw the nay sayers, It's your channel Paul.
" Don't try this at home " and " GET OFF MY LAWN ! "
*Love this channel- I WAS waiting for him to also note that the Beretta had the adjustable stock spacers too*
Even with the stock spacers the Ruger still fits me better than the Beretta.
Go to the rental gun ranges. They all love the Beretta, it’s far away their favourite PCC. However the Ruger is new and is showing up and may also end up taking this spot. So far however both my local ranges say the Beretta is still their favourite. However the Kriss Vector is the favourite for shooters, (probably due mostly to appearance and reputation).
But already there is a very large aftermarket for the Ruger and at least 3 configurations and 3 new trigger groups so there’s that.
Good evening Paul Harrell. First I want to thank you for another good and thorough review. I never fail to learn from your thought reviews. All the best to you. Be safe.
When I first bought my Ruger PCC I loved it, but within a few hundred rounds it started getting fails to eject which were usually stove pipes with the occasional partial extract and resulting log jam. Over a few more range trips and some attempts at 'process of elimination' switching ammo and mags, the problem only got worst. I was about to give up on it when I thought to check the three Allen head screws that affix the 'takedown' coupler to the receiver; sure enough they'd come quite loose. I re-tighten them and it's run flawlessly ever since. The only thing I didn't like about it, other than that brief time it wasn't behaving, was how hard it was for my quinquagenary eyes to quickly or easily get a sight picture using the iron sights. A red dot most certainly resolved that issue, but I still wanted a better iron sight set-up should the red dot fail. Enter the Tandemkross fiber optic from sight upgrade. That along made all the difference. I decided to take it a step further and used florescent orange paint on the ghost ring to make that pop. Now it's so, so much easier and accurate to shoot. I too was surprised at how much recoil is felt, I suspect it's the tungsten block in the bolt carrier group.
Hello friend from the distant past! I've long wanted one of these and given the chance to fire one was shocked at the felt recoil. It's 9MM! Why does it feel like I'm getting slugged?
I may end up revisiting the platform now that the MK2 versions are out and I have a more realistic expectation of the platform. There's a lot to offer here. Thanks for your input on potential assembly flaws. :)
I love my Ruger pc9. I have the insert for Glock magazines installed and l bought a few 33rd. fun sticks.
I have a keltec sub2000 that I feed almost exclusively on fun sticks. It just makes sense to have more mag capacity in a carbine.
Indeed, a 30 or 33 round magazine is ideal for pistol caliber carbines, which are a better choice for urban and suburban locations than an AR-15 for self-defense.
I really like how you slowly explain and show everything in a way someone who isn't military or LE can understand and follow.
Bottom line: Swap in the Glock mag well, put a sight on the pic rail, and it's a worthwhile pc carbine.
I have bought n sold firearms for 40 yrs and Glock is the only company I have not owned, or do I plan to buy. Not saying anything negative about Glock
@@jimmyruger7529 Fair enough. I more meant that someone buying this was statistically more likely to have a Glock, anyway. Or at the very least, would prefer the cost/availability of Glock mags over Ruger mags (I fit in the latter category).
I thought it should have been noted that, with the Glock magwell, there is 100 per cent interchange ability with Glock 9mm double stack guns/magazines
Sounds like Paul would still disagree for himself. He didn't shoot it well, and it's about the same size as whatever AR he had there at the end. Might as well throw the red dot on the AR and have something more powerful that way.
@@RonSpilker Yes and no. If you are inside buildings on a regular basis (like an instructor is), and can't have a suppressor most of the time, your ears will thank you! 9mm burns a LOT less powder, at lower pressure!
Some of the best firearms content on UA-cam? Don't change a thing!
I agree fully
I appreciate yourr attention to detail and honesty. You give an honest assessment, and don't promote products.
It's a bedside carbine that when dealing with an assailant home intruder, one doesn't want to over penetrate into the neighbor's home and take them out too - and if have to go into the outdoors with it, will be able to shoot more accurately at range than with a pistol. And it's manageable when using 30rd mags with it - a pistol with a 30rd mag hanging out of it, not so much. In some jurisdictions, it's easier to obtain than a pistol. Beyond self-defense scenario, it's fun to shoot and more affordable than the rifle cartridge long guns, but admittedly not as affordable as 22LR for just pleasure shooting. Sometimes one wants to pleasure shoot with more serious punch but not at .308 prices (yeah, yeah, I know - that's what the Russians gave us 7.62x39 for - cheap pleasure shooting).
NOT NO MORE 😫😫😫
Don't change a thing, Shatnereque pauses and speech impediment included.
Mike Goodman
“Impediment” suggests that there is a problem, or “hinderance”. Neither is true in Paul’s case. Maybe that wasn’t the word you were looking for?
@@jonkR96 don't have time for this. Go back and listen to the video. If I'm Wrong, big deal. If you're right, big deal.
@@GoodmanMIke59 are you sure you don't have time Mike? This seems like exactly the type of thing you would have time for.
Agreed !
@@pagnedaman3777 Dude......
I bought a PC9 takedown, my son and I have fired several hundred rounds through it with no failures, 50 yard accuracy was similar to yours maybe a little tighter. I am using the Glock magazine adapter and 30 round Glock magazines. I couldn't be happier with it except as you point out, the ghost ring type peep sight is very far forward. I love mine and it is the first Ruger I have bought in a while that I was happy out of the box with only a quick inspection and lube before firing.
I’ve only put a few hundred rounds thru my ruger. But it’s been flawless so far. That’s all with Glock factory mags and pmags.
Another great video. I find the Ruger PCC to be an awesome rifle when you stick a nice red dot sight on it and use glock mags.
Agreed on all points.... except the glock mags. Tried both and have better results with the ruger Security 9 mags.
Like always another great video. On the Ruger PC Carbine, love mine my Security-9 and Ruger-9E all use the same magazines. After 350 to 400 rounds my PC Carbine started having problems. Turns out it needed a new extractor Mcarbo sells a far better one than the one that comes from Ruger. My PC Carbine eats up everything I put in it. A Konuspro 1.5-5x32 and I can see again 🤣😂😄. Life is good and fun loving at the range. Thank you for sharing doing all you do. 😊👍💯🇺🇸
I love how at the roughly 28 minute mark you can hear the difference between the sub and supersonic ammo as Paul shoots it.
The S&W 469 takes a 12 round magazine. That was the magazine the Camp 9 was designed around. 469s will work with 59 mags but not the other way around.
I was about to say... my 6906 was a 12 shot.
I was going to ask about that, thanks
Paul, I have owned the Ruger PC for about a 10 months now and shoot it in USPSA competition. It works very well for me. I have shot it in 6 matches so far and have earned my "A" rank already. It is the only PCC I own so I have nothing else to compare it to, but I am routinely beating shooters using AR style PCC's that are costing $1,000 more than mine. I have had failure to eject problems which I THINK I traced to the extractor, which does not grab the cartridge rim very well. I reworked it and it seems to be fine now. Others on the internet have complained about this as well. It seems that they wear out quickly and need to either be replaced or reworked. I have lost 2 matches because of this, but hopefully it is corrected. I shoot Glock mags with it, in either 10 round or 33. The 10's are flawless, but the 33's will cause the failure to eject every now and then, that is why I said I THINK I fixed the problem. Could be the mags, time and further testing will tell. It is a bit heavy, but I'm a big guy and don't seem to notice. Where the weight is a problem is shooting Steel Challenge, where you need to transition quickly between targets. However I will try it some time in a match. I installed a Rex Silentium GunFighter Pistol Caliber Muzzle Brake, and it shoots like a BB gun. No more muzzle flip, with really fast follow up shots. Also installed a mag well and mag release button for really fast reloads. I removed the iron sights and installed a Bushnell TRS-25 red dot which has run flawlessly as well. I did my own trigger work and it breaks like glass at 3 pounds every time. I also installed a Crimson Trace laser under the barrel with a mount that I custom made for the rifle. I shoot 147 grain Extreme plated bullets over WW231 which I load myself. No noticeable muzzle rise at all. Anyone who says a muzzle device will not work on a PCC either has never compared one with and without, or, well, I'll leave it at that. There is a reason why ALL competitive shooters use them...it's because they work. You can check me out shooting it (and the malfunctions) on my site. Search for "Al Frangipane" and you'll find the videos. Some Steel Challenge videos as well, but those are shot with a very modified Ruger 10-22. Shortly I will be posting a video of the rifle and the mods I have done to it. Stay tuned.
I'd love to see a comparison of the Underwood "philips screwdriver" ammo in a PCC vs a pistol. That ammo has no risk of over-expansion at higher velocity.
Also, the sarcasm a the end made me laugh. 👍
Those rounds are devastating to fleshy targets, but they have a tendency to over-penetrate light barriers like drywall. Not a great choice for use in home defense, but outdoors, they’re awesome.
Truly, I’m fixing to hunt with some 9mm extreme penetrators out of a ruger pcc next deer season. We shall see how it goes!
I have used these rifles a lot over the past year. I currently own 4 of them and use them for training new shooters. I have two of them that are kept perfectly clean and ready for use, two of them were not cleaned for the first 2,000 rounds. And found it, clean or dirty, to be extremely reliable. I like them. They work. Annd many of my students, use them as home defense firearms. We mount a red dot on the top and limit range to 50 yards and for a $500 PCC, I do not know how one could do much better. Mine are converted to GLOCK mags for compatibility with a pistol I own.
Paul - you, Hickok, and MAC are the best... we are thankful for what you do, and don't EVER change!!
I've owned a Ruger PCC for over a year now and I actually rate it among my favorite firearms. But I can't find any fault in this testing methodology. All points that were brought up were spot on. What might be a great fit for one person is not necessarily a good fit for another.
Agreed
Still loving it? i got one this week.
Mr. Harrell should have done mag compatibility demonstration using glock mags.
When I served aboard the Galactica the CX4 saved me from The Cylons in many a battle!
So say we all.
Have three 9mm PCC's...1 Ruger PC9 and 2 Hi-Point 995. Have so much 9mm ammo I figured my seven 9mm pistols needed some additional bang sticks. I love all 3 of my 9mm PCC's. Thanks, Paul.
I have the SR9/PC9 combination and have been very satisfied with both overall. I like the interchangeability of magazines and the fact that 9MM is a common, inexpensive, and until recently (pronounced BEER), easily obtainable round. I don't have a massive gun budget so affordability was a factor as well.
Thank you Paul for 36 minutes(!) of review on:
1) a PCC you don't really care for,
and
2) A PCC I bought earlier today.
(Did you sell yours?)
With the included Glock mag-well it can be fed by a Glock-style 2 x 50rd "double-drum" which could be fun when I get together with an old College buddy and we go plinking in the hills,
he with his $1/round 30-30 and I with my $.22/round 9mm.
Yes, two rather differing impact energies but what's a jug of colored water or a shoot-n-see sticky target care.
I also thought it might be reasonably effective should crowd control become an issue on the home-front brought on perhaps by a Kung-Flu panicked pack of 2-legged beasties.
Excellent review, and no, you didn't burst my bubble. I didn't expect Creedmoor accuracy and I respect your bias-free perspective.
Stay Well -
The bit no one can factor into a review is how much someone else is going to enjoy that firearm. If you like a particular gun, for whatever reason that appeals to you, you'll enjoy it. If you keep worrying about what others think about your firearm or caliber, you'll never be happy. Too many seem so invested in their choices and uninformed opinions gained from the internet, they get really upset over anyone else choosing an alternative. IMO, there's nothing worse than someone trying to tell someone else what gun they should have and why the one they are buying is worthless, without having the slightest idea what that person's circumstances are and the environment they live in. I'm just glad there are other enthusiasts out there and that manufacturers keep coming up with new and sometimes resurrected versions of products from the past to tempt us to buy something else. That's one of the things I like about Paul's videos, is that he doesn't try to tell others what they should do, but instead discusses things and puts forward ideas that help you make your own decisions and learn some new techniques and things along the way.
Now revisit this comment (on price) in Jan 2021 haha. Fun times though.
@@ryanf922 I don't think it's all that valid a point to compare pricing in a healthy country to that of the same country when under siege by foreign & domestic enemies.
Paul excellent video, I do not hear a speech impediment or pauses. Keep making the videos they are awesome. This one is helping me decide between the Ruger PC9 and the Extar EP9
Man this is so weird, I was literally just thinking to myself, "when is Paul gonna release a new video?" Not 10 seconds later I open up UA-cam and there it is. I think Paul has telepathy.
He’s the gun god!
@@zero_meercat8624 hands down my favorite gun UA-camr. I appreciate someone just feeding me the information in a calm collected manner, most of these guys are just too high strung and cocky.
no, he has great timing
Probably something to do with your internal clock
@@yawningkitty457 no, betacuck4lyfe has great timing
The Marlin 9mm Camp Carbine also works with the S&W 69xx Series compact 12-round magazines.
Thanks for another nicely put together presentation. As a former Marlin owner, current Storm owner, and prospective Ruger PC owner, I found your take on these three carbines very interesting. Like you, I like the combination of the Storm and in my case, the 92A1. When I owned the Marlin, I paired it with a S&W 6906, giving it two-way magazine interchangability as I recall it. With the Ruger, I anticipate changing to the Glock magwell and not looking back as I have a less than favorable outlook on the Ruger 9MM offerings.
And as for myself, "You be the judge" never gets old... unlike other reviewers who pontificate about their choices, you do an excellent job of presenting an objective view on firearms, ammunition and related subjects. I appreciate those presentations whether or not I agree with your thoughts on the subject matter.
Miss this guy RIP 😢
Well, I’ll give Ruger this. They produce a wide variety of guns at reasonable prices...even if they’re not always the best
They are what Keltec could be if keltec gave a crap about it's QC.
I would love the have that Beretta Storm, but it 2-3 time the price of a Ruger PPC.
Nothing wrong with my pc carbine put a red dot on it and shoot tennis balls at 35 yards on the run !! Truck and camping gun carry it around in a Wilson tennis racket case !! Love it !!
@@thomasmackay9264 yeah, the Ruger has nice options. A Picatinny rail is a huge bonus, and good optics are getting common and cheaper.
Is the Ruger version of the AR-15 worthwhile?
Mr Harrell, you asked for additional feedback on the performance of the Ruger PCC 9mm rifle. I've had my Ruger PCC for about 6 weeks and have shot almost 500 rounds of Winchester 115 gr FMJ. There have been only 4 misfeeds, and they were all caused by, what I will call, "short" rounds. When I stood the "bad" rounds up on a table and stood another round from the same box next to it, the "bad" round was at least 1/8 to 3/16 of an inch shorter. This caused the short round to stand upright before entering the chamber. So, it was not a defect in the rifle at all, but a problem with Winchester quality control. At 25 yards, with practice, I'm able to put 5 shots inside a 2" square, and at 50 yards, 5 shots inside a 3.5 to 4 inch square. Both of these using an EOTech XPS3 Holographic sight. My plan is to get a little more comfortable at 50 yards and then go to 100 yards and see how I do. This rifle is a pleasure to shoot.
Thanks for the input.
One of the selling points of 9X19 PCC's is that they are a "pleasure to shoot" due to their light recoil and reasonable report.
Good video. I love My PC Carbine. I'm surprised at your accuracy issues. Mine shoots very good groups. Then again, with most things Ruger, it's usually a coin flip between a great weapon and a lemon. My issue was FTE's before Ruger fixed it. Now it runs flawless. At the end of the day, Ruger made a great plinker. A fighting PCC is going to be much smaller like a MP5 or AR9, not a PC Carbine. Although it has some practical convenience for bugging out since it's a take down.
I love mine and at 50 yards I can shoot a 3-4 in hole with a couple fliers here and there
Finna Sprang there’s more to emergencies than just tornadoes. Are you telling me all the people recently in California that had to evacuate because of the wild fires were not “bugging out”. Call it what you like, but when I leave due to an emergency, I most certainly take the defense of my family into consideration. So STFU and kindly take your non expertise elsewhere.
Very true regarding ruger. Either you get a fantastic deal of a gun or you get a dud
"...go do the right thing you meddling kids! "
That's amazing.
we have a winner
I always thought Mary Ann would fit my hand better than I fit into Ginger's hand. LOL. I'll see myself out.
I'm late here with this comment but thought I'd add it anyway. As. a 2 year Ruger PC carbine owner I cannot agree with almost all of Paul's comments here. I find it extremely accurate at all distances, and I've put hundreds of rounds through it with zero malfunctions. The easy take down is tremendous for travel or back country use. Trigger pull is fantastic and the adjustable length is a real positive. I will agree it's heavier then expected for this size rifle. But it's still very managable. Just a blast to shoot. I highly recommend it.
Now if Ruger would come out with a 10 mm PCC I would be happier than a carp in a septic tank!
There is less velocity difference between 10mm and .40 S&W than you might think. Only about 100-150 fps more. There is already a .40 S&W version of the PC9.
@@b.griffin317 I don't have any .40's I have 9mm and 10mm. And most real 10mm far surpass .40.. I also handload and 10mm can completely knock .40 out of the game.
@@b.griffin317 Huh? Maybe between .40 and the watered-down crap that Federal puts out for sale at big-box retailers, but most definitely not true for the maximum safe pressure levels for each cartridge firing the same bullet weight.
A Ruger 10mm OCC wouldn't even notice real 10mm pressures.
@@rhettharring8254 Most ammo in stores is like that. Unless you pay out the ass or reload 10mm is overrated as you are shooting a 40S&W with a bigger case. Not all MOST. MOST. NOT. ALL.
Sorry if I come off as an ass but if I don't make sure people understand that part they will latch on as if I said all
Honest and thorough, a wonderful combination.
I'm a Ruger fan going way back, but my PC 9 was unreliable with WWB, Wolf, and ZQI/MKE ball. After about 300 rounds trying to get it to function (innumerable FTF and especially FTE) I sold it in disgust.
I used a known to me to be reliable Glock 31 round magazine, maybe it had some affect on reliability, but Ruger should have foreseen shooter's would use them and engineered accordingly (if the magazine was actually the problem).
As for your trademark lines, be yourself, don't worry about anybody that suggests otherwise. Best gun oriented videos on UA-cam.
I'd like to see how the added velocity effects hollow point expansion.
I had the same thought
Same
I think he has a video addressing this. PCC ammo selection maybe.
ditto
Lucky Gunner did a video it.
changing your ending line is like going to New Coke.. just keep it classic dude.
VERY thorough presentation sir. Thanks...
I have a Ruger ppc I've put about a thousand rounds through it and no malfunctions not due to ammo
I've always liked the Beretta CX4 Storm. It's compatible with the PX4 series, the 90 series and the 8000 series magazines with available adapters.
It is also an official space gun
It’s kind of a super weird looking gun. Might be practical but it sure is ugly
Walter Hargain I have been looking at the beretta but wish it had a Glock mag adapter. I loved the one I shot.
Hey Paul, It's been a year since I posted a comment on the PCC 9. My Ruger PCC 9 has never failed to function in the last year. I have found that by removing the barrel during cleaning the point of impact did change on the next outing however it was only slightly off. I no longer remove the barrel when cleaning.. I did purchase some up graded parts from MCARBO and I found improvement in felt recoil and the carbine shoots smoother. My definition of a carbine is based on the M1 carbine in that a 16 inch barrel is a short rifle. AR pistols referred to as carbines with a 10 inch barrel or so would not really be carbines . To each their own I guess. I have an AR chambered in 7.62x39 and that boy is a beast to shoot and is very accurate at 100 yards. Great vid.