Vincent Kompany linked to Bayern Munich 👀 ‘Finally’ they weren’t turned down - Rhind-Tutt | ESPN FC
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- Опубліковано 22 тра 2024
- ESPN FC’s Kay Murray, Shaka Hislop, Ale Moreno, Nedum Onuoha and Archie Rhind-Tutt discuss Burnley manager Vincent Komany linked to taking over at Bayern Munich.
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Damm! Barca is struggling with money, Bayern with coaches and Manchester United with everything😂 … crazy times.
And chelsea is struggling with Clowns 😂😂😂
Barca was always struggling with money.
Atleast we are in some cup final!..unlike bottle job fc😂😂😂
@@sunrisesunset1734 apparently notwhen they signed dembele, coutinho and griezmann
@@yusrinaniyusrinani2301 absolutely the new owners are absolute clowns, 4 managers sacked in 2 years
Oh boy. This could either turn Kompany into a "Xabi Alonso" or a "Frank Lampard" 😮
Most likely Lampard
Very similar comparisons tbh.. Lampard had a decent time at Derby, but Chelsea was a jump too far although he did great qualifying the top 4 in his first season with a transfer window ban.
There are 3 criteria to make someone a top tactician in modern football.
Learn complex tactical ideas from a young age at a tactically extremely sophisticated academy like LaMasia.
Did not play kick and rush football in his playing career. So he can develop a tactical mindset to build up step by step in a methodical way.
This is the most important one. Played as a DM/CB/GK (a central role at the back) for, or work with PepGuardiola, the greatest tactician in football history who revolutionised modern football. So he gets the opportunity to learn the most advanced, complex and sophisticated tactics in modern football.
Capable to divide his tactics into thousands of pieces/details and feed/pre-instruct them into his players. Capable to control every single positioning and movements of his players like playing tactical chess under a microscope.
With the cap and hair gone he will look like Pep replica 😂😂😂
Lampard did great with Chelsea first season and Everton. So Kompany would be ok then.
Why is Kane constantly finding himself in this kind of mess?
"Football heritage." 🇵🇹
I dont even get the whole Kane cant win a title meme. Wasnt he playing for Tottenham his whole life which is a very average club that doesnt win anything?
What does any of this have to do with Kane? He just finished the best season of his life and absolute bozo losers like you find a way to hate. Get off the internet and learn to think for yourself.
Because he's handsome.
Because its the history of the Tottenham 👀
Kane just can't take a break huh 😂
Neither can ur mother. Always got a mouthful so she can pay for u to sit at home and cry about england and the pl🤣🤣🤣🤣
The first thought that came to my mind 😂 He must've been like "Oh no!"
😅😅
Wrong I think they will get along very good
How can you justify sacking tuchel for kompany?!
A pet rock would be better than Tuchel
They’ve won NOTHING with Tuchel. They can’t possibly win any less with Kompany lol. The thing with Bayern is their options are limited right now.
At the end of next season, the decision may well be justified. Tuchel won some games but had no trophy.
how can you justify sacking nagelsmann for tuchel? was last years question i believe :)
I don't care for this elitist talk. Kompany is a professional manager. He deserves a chance at any club. Same as wijnaldum deserved a transfer to Liverpool
Glad you got Nedum Onuoda on the panel now. He knows Football and is not as sarcastic as the other panel members who sound like politicians instead of footballers. Please keep him
Moreno is right. It's not about teaching Müller or Kimmich how to kick the ball, it's much more about the general mood in the dressing room, about how Bayern works.
I don't know anything about Kompany as a manager, but I know that he will be the very first who speaks all languages of the players perfectly (German, French, English, Dutch) and even some Spanish.
I hope the board gives him a fair chance and stands behind him. Some players certainly need a kick in the a$$.
Rijkaard got relegated with Sparta in the Eredivisie. A year later, he was employed by Barcelona
And didn’t stay there for too long either…
@@unknownusername9414 but he won the CL with Barca.
From Toyota too buggati 😂
Toyota is better than bugatti
Funny thing none of these things said when Lampard took over in Chelsea. 😂 British tax lol
Kompany is much better than Lampard
What about we offer Ale Moreno to become Barcalona coach since he is very good in talking in the studio. Let see what how good is he.
Burnley had clear pattern of plays. Even when they were losing during the first half of the season the players missed loads of goal scoring opportunities. And Kompany’s football was easy on the eye.
The rhetoric that Kompany played under Pep and hence that influences Bayern’s decision is straight from the book of amateur who has says something because there’s nothing else to say as he has done no research.
Well done Nedum!
Thank you and agreed. You could definitely see what Burnley were trying to do and Kompany knows how to work with players, having played at a very high level himself.
I think he’ll do well
With the players at his disposal at Bayern, he will shine
People are criticising this move because they only understand it on superficial level of they have hired a coach who got relegated. If Bayern could pick any coach in the world to take over the team it would be Pep Guardiola. He has made it clear he is never going back to Bayern. So then you target a Pep disciple who plays the same way. Arteta and Alonso are not going to join Bayern, so you go for the Pep disciple who is obtainable and has potential to be great and speaks fluent German. Kompany’s style will work better with Bayern players than Burnley players like Jack Cork. It is definitely a risk, but I wouldn’t be surprised if made Bayern win the league.
It was still atleast there 4th choice
Exactly. The man may not have been an assistant coach under Pep, but he was Pep's captain for years at City. It is a risky decision, but he won the Championship with 101 points as recently as two seasons ago. Speaks several languages, was a ball playing CB, so he can improve the weakest link of Bayern which is their defense and how they play out from the back. Might fail, might work.
The senior players will throw him under the bus in 6 months😂😂😂
Kompany was the leader of those early successful man city teams.
He’ll be fine at Bayern Munich
you are trying to be a hipster as soon as he fails you’ll delete these comments
shameless fool
Pep was nobody before his Barcelona appointment. Give him a break
People will only see the relegation losses that Kompany had because of some non-quality players but however he helped burnley escape the championship next year and helped burnley get into the premier league. However because of their poor quality players they weren’t really able to win any games. So we will see the asset of his playstyle at Bayern
He also walked into a legendary group of players....
How do you explain this... From a relegation team to a champion league contenders team. When Favour and Grace speaks on your behalf
People hating on Kompany are just simple-minded noobs. Xabi Alonso had a very average managerial career with Real Sociedad B before he got appointed as Leverkusen manager. Kompany managed to promote Burnley from the Championship to EPL, whereas Xabi failed to do so with Real Sociedad B. Kompany is actually a good manager, but he just didnt have the resource with Burnley.
Well, the difference is the Pressure. The Entire World will look at Kompany and Bayern and if they lose one Match the Fans will start to riot. They wont give him the Time to do his thing, thats the Difference between Bayern and Leverkusen
I get you but comparing two people is comparing apples and oranges to me bayern are taking a huge gamble it may work out it may not
If we are going to criticise Xabi for his failure with Sociedad B team, then we could also say that Sean Dyche managed to get Burnley to European places, where as Kompany got them relegated.
But, nobody would actually prefer a dinosaur like Dyche over Kompany, so to discredit Alonso like this is really stupid.
It's all an elitist mentality. Only certain managers must go to certain clubs and vise versa 🙄. The guy's a professional manager and deserves a chance
@@jascha2765funny... The people that will say Pep is overrated because he's only been at the biggest club will turn around and echo what you say about Kompany 🙄
Bayern and Barca want 1 year managers until they can get Pep or Klopp!
Fact
Maybe u add xabi Alonso to it but unfortunately to legendary as real legend icon so probably no
Not even close lol. Less talking, more learning.
Klopp wouldn't fit at Barca.
@Lilpokeball nope. He would do well at Madrid tho.
Kompany is a passion merchant, he thinks copying Pep's team talks wins games.
Tbf burnley outplayed many teams they dint have a good striker to convert
@@prodigalfraudaddy-es1gl 24 loses mate
@@palatialslumlord4938 i only watch a few games.. But i see that Kompany trying to do Pep style in Burnley..maybe thats why they lose so much..playing highline with a low tier team..maybe not the right decision..but give him quality players like bayern..he could be winning some throphy
@@palatialslumlord4938they absolutely outplayed United in both games and only lost because United have players like Bruno fernandes who can score absolute worldies.
@@karmaascendant3936 "United"
Excellent points Nadum
First, this has not happened. Second, if it does, give the man a chance before you have him sacked.
I actually think Kompany would do better at Chelsea given they’re a project needing a direct style of play. But I’ll be rooting for my captain to do well
If things go well, people will now say Bayern already had good players.
They have
Kompany is a beast .He destroyed the EFL with very attractive football but unfortunately the players quality was not enough for the EPL . Now he has the players at bayern, let's wait and see
Thx
Ale's comments about Xavi aged really well 😂
Another thing about him being young is he's more likely to understand the spoiled mindset of the multimillionaires the older managers might not experience.
Fast forward 1 yr, every critic here eats their word, when Vinny wrestles Alonso and wins the league back Pep style: by 1 (golden) point!!!
Alonso also got relegated with Sociedad B and Eberl, the current Bayern boss, wanted to sign him before he had his breakthrough at Leverkusen when he was still in charge at Gladbach. He apparently sees the same potential in Kompany now... Whether he is right remains to be seen. But it is Eberl who has convinced the others at Bayern of this risky idea.
I agree with Eberl here. The old approach to hire an experienced success coach has failed. I like this risky yet promising approach. No risk no fun
@@klaussajonskick eberl out he's a foolish
Kompany had a great career while playing the sport and as a coach it was great that he got Burnley promoted.. yeah they got relegated right away but that doesn't eliminate the credentials from this man.. everyone has ups & downs and this was one of his downs with Burnley.. it happens but I believe if he does a good job at bayern everyone will forget about Burnley and praise him as an amazing coach for the upcoming future.. Kompany might just surprise us all.
Hensi flicke was available. And I'm available too. I didn't get relegated at least 😊
Flick wants Barca
Flick is burned in germany after his clueless performances as national coach.
Xabi Alonso got Sociedad B relegated before he joined Leverkusen
Flick's reputation in Germany is ruined because of his embarrassing performance as national coach. The majority of Bayern fans don't want him back, and probably also the german Bayern players don't want him back. In the WC documentary you can see that Kimmich and Müller in particular were not at all satisfied with his tactics and the relationship became really bad. That's why some of the Bayern bosses prefer someone else and not him.
@@restinzasnot to forget that his departure wasn’t on good terms. His main rivals at the club might be gone but it’s possible that there are still people in the club that are still mad about the way he left.
Nedum onuhua cheering for his mate kompany 😂 I appreciate It but let's cut all the BS, it's absolutely ludicrous that bayern are even considering hiring him.
No, it's not. He's a good manager. What's your problem?
@@african-history-fountain 😂 good one
@@karunparajuli1973 I wasn't joking with you.
I’m just worried this is a too big of a jump too quickly. I love seeing all these new managers come in, I just hope they don’t die out because they couldn’t succeed early in their careers because of a lack of experience. I’m still sad over Lampard managerial career 😢
You can't compare Bayern and Leverkusen at all. Leverkusen has a much quieter environment. A trainer can work there in peace. FC Bayern is a completely different world!The environment there is very nervous. The media is merciless and there is a lot of unrest in the club at the moment. Especially because a certain Mr. Hoeneß keeps getting involved. Not a club for young aspiring coaches. My guess is that if Bayern bring Kompany in, he will be fired by the winter break and Eberl with him.
Awful Appointment, should have waited for Ten hag or Xavi seeing they are likely to be sacked soon. How does Kompany get relegated finish below Luton and Land the bayern job. Reminds me of Ole where he was judged by his name rather than managing ability
Lol Xavi himself just got the Barcelona job because of his name like Ole.
Ale put everything on line 100%. He’s not a coach he’s an assistant coach’s. There’s no direction with him 😅
To consider Moreno an expert shows you have neither a direction nor a clue.
I think this is all about the Bayern bosses being confident thamey can push Kompany around, he will do as told and won't push back like Tuchel did
I think for Bayern Munich, they just need a manager to bridge the gap between now and whenever they can get someone like Alonso or Klopp. If he does well that's great.. it's a gamble but its pretty much like patching a hole temporarily.
Klopp has said he would never coach Bayern and it is clear Alonso has a preference for Liverpool and Real Madrid over Bayern. That is why they went for a younger coach who could be in the job for a long time. It is a risk but it could pay off Kompany style works better with top players.
@@Delboy0 maybe they have an arangement with alonso for next season
@@Delboy0preference about Madrid probably but before he finally decided to stay at Leverkusen there were multiple media reports that he would’ve chosen Bayern over Liverpool if he left.
Then it should have been the same Deal like Flick's deal with Barca, 1+1 option to extend if everything goes well, not a 3 year Deal.
@@Delboy0 Alonso is not going to Liverpool. It’s either Real Madrid or Bayern. Get over it
I dont understand all the hate for kompany. Even if he was relegated there were so many games this season where VAR went against them or like the united game where they dominates and then a bruno worldie is what beat them in the end. I think if the season was restarted and a couple more things went his way burnley would have stayed up.
How many games did he win? Don't use an injury ridden united with casemiro at the backline to make kompany look better
@@angelotroseboom1186 im not you idiot? Did you read what i said?
Bayern Muchen is really needy to pick Vincent Kompany of all people. This is a horrible pick, Kompany is not ready for this and hasn't been in a coaching role enough to take on this. (thank you Shaka...you told the truth)
We could have said the same about Hansi Flick
They got their 9th choice to take the job. I can totally see them having a breathtaking season 😅
Why not? You can only have success at Bayern as a "finished article"?
Flick took over as an assistant coach and won 6 trophys in one season, Ancelotti joined Bayern and failed (more or less).
The only coach that was expected to work at Bayern and did was Guardiola and even he was criticised cause he couldnt get past the semifinals three times in a row.
Jupp Heynckes wasnt expected to have that kind of success, Nagelsmann was.
It´s a roll of a dice almost every single time a new coach takes over
As a Burnley fan I really hope VK does well at Bayern. Really can’t knock the guy for choosing to join one of the biggest clubs in the world.
The Bayern Board are really keen on turning their club into an even bigger circus than our Barcelona 😭😭😭😭
Minus the huge debt. At least Bayern can afford whomever Kompany wants
@@stjames9221 just like they did for Tuchel 🫠
Xavi was a good player, but not a good manager. Guardiola never said he's a good one. But he said it about Vincent.
@bucurilie-lo4jf Guardiola also said Eric was a great defender...Lol what do you expect him to say about his former captain?!
Relegation with Burnley gets you Bayern links now??? I wonder if it would have been the same with Sean Dyche>
A coach with impeccable track record and a cabinet full of national and international trophies is, what Bayern wanted. And look what they came home with.....🤭
This is nuts. Pochettino gets fired despite doing a great job and now Kompany is getting rewarded despite getting his team relegated and barely having any managerial experience. If he gets hired good for him.
The good thing for him is that he'll have great resources to work with and that might actually work in his favor. Also very impressive considering the few black managers around aren't in high profile jobs. What an accomplishment if it comes to pass.
You don’t understand the situations. Poch didn’t want to be there. He had disagreements with ownership and they decided to move on. As for Kompany it’s a potential steal. All great coaches didn’t have huge jobs at one time in their career.
We all know he's not...
At this point, Bayern could even let a Brick coach them
Same pundits are gonna be calling him "Out of his depth" soon as Bayern drop their 1st points of the season!
The man need a chance
@13:15 after what tuchel achieved? Archie what are you taking about?! What, barely beating Arsenal? Taking your best players off in the second fixture against Madrid?
use ur brain pls
Im not sure if this didn't get to England, but he said in a german post match interview that every switch he made was because of injuries. Not one was because of tactical reasons.
Uhhh a champions league?😂
Bro
What is Harry Kane on?
finishing third meant they had to wait till May for a Trophy
Now this? lol
If things don't go well they will end up saying Kompamy wasn't their 1st,2nd, 3rd choice 🙃
Bayern another trophyless season incoming with Kane and Co(Kompany)
Poor Kane. Would Tottenham had done better is Kane stayed and played under Ange? Anyone wanna tackle this question?
"How about Erik Ten Hag?"
'No way - literally anyone else!'
"Done."
What you mean??
@@angelotroseboom1186 if they get Kompany, it's like they want just anyone.
Nagelsmann was more unqualified than Kompany when he got hired nor did he have a player career even as close as Kompany. All these arguments against Kompany as Bayern coach are dumb.
Kompany will thrive ,as he has the leadership mentality and fluent in german
That's not the blueprint for winning. Maradona had the leadership and everthing you mentioned but he still failed to win with argentina
Archie & Ale in same show!!! 😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮
they don't like each other don't they
I can do without Moreno every time.
@@ac14cmpunk25 why is that? :O
so what I'm getting is Vincent is there bcs of he's player resume?
The hypothesis is that he was moulded by Pep as a player and manager, thus, is able to bring a bit of Pep back to Bayern.
@@finfog4590fair but my argument lies in the fact that bayern are UCL contenders bringing kompany is a gamble that may pay but it also may not
@@footballstilllives It’s a risk, 100%. Hes Bayerns 8th choice, but they are desperate.
Just like Lampard, Rooney and Gerrard but with intelligence and ability to speak more than one language.
He’s proven he’s a good coach already at a young age
I think he speaks German...so maybe that makes him a great fit Bayerns eyes...
Where does Kompany deserve the hate he is getting in the English media?
They are looking for someone simple to cut off when klopp is ready
😂😂 whoever made this 🙌👏
I expected those names synonymous with Chelsea e.g JT, Didier or Frank
Leverkusen vs Stuttgart competition for the Bundesliga trophy will be even tougher next season
20 million for an unproven coach and a major risk is madness. Surely they don’t pay that
One could've said same about pep before his Barca stint, or Zidane, arteta,
@@lexmuthor1131you took 2 managers that started for the biggest clubs and one for arsenal, don't take the outliers as the norm. Most managers would go to a top 4 team in the same league and be there for atleast 2 seasons before then jumping to the best team in the league.
Kompany was average at Anderlecht, won the championship with the largest budget and wage bill , stunk up the PL. People comparing him to alonso haven't been watching closely.
What was he supposed to do with Anderlecht? Win the Champions league? A coach is only as good as his players. And it's really demented and bigoted to credit the ''budget and wage bill'' of Burnley for his success there. Bayern likely have the ''biggest budget and wage bill'' in Germany. So if he does well there, you'll of course say it was because of that, wouldn't you? Pep Guardiola ALWAYS has the ''biggest budget and wage bill'' wherever he goes. Is that why he is a winner, or does your theory only apply to people who look like Vincent Kompany?
Kane must be thinking...why always me😅
Shaka’s submission oh goodness, he is so smart! The other guy can’t talk down on him obviously cos he knows him personally
So, Bayern is trying Pep's football, AGAIN, and Barca's trying Flick's football. Go figure.
The Bayern needs to reorganise defensively and Vincent Kompany was a great defender, some even say he was the greatest Belgium Defender. The Bayern also needs a man with empathy and leading capacity and Vincent Kompany was often captain of the team he played in. I'm sure he can remotive many players there.
I honestly dont get the whole point about the experience conversation. Which coach started his career with an already coaching experience at a big club. All the big coaches we see today, it took one big club at a point to take a chance on them.
He is a talented manager but joining Bayern at the worst possible time.
Talented?? 🤣😭😭
Relegated with burnley or watver... so talented.
@@zorashkipromoted Burnley.
This may actually work.
@@keystone6162how many times had burnley gone back and forth before. Not like it was the first time in 20 years. They were still a top pick for making it when the season began
@@junioradult6219 ok, do I think they could have gotten someone else? Yes, surely.
I wanted to see someone new though, like Dino Toppmöller or Hoeness.
Not an older, established guy. But that's just me.
This is a surprise but along the lines of what I was hoping for: young, fresh, bright ideas, motivated.
Therefore all I can do is point out the positives, wish him the best and hope it works.
I can't change anything. It's not like I have Uli on speed dial.
So I have to at least give him a chance.
Man! Day by day the Kane curse gets stronger and stronger😂
Pep was the reason they took him. Pep and Rumenigge are still good friends and he recomended them to take Kompany.
He may well have been the right fit in 10/15 years but this is wayyyyy too soon. Why do clubs want the immediate new next best thing now. £60 million on 17/18 year old players as well. Its gone crazy.
Good choice. Give him a chance. Bayern has to make a turnaround inside and for that a new, inexperienced but hungry coach is perfect. The only thing he needs is time and calmless inside the club, especialy Hoeness has to be quiet.
Great player but still learning his trade and moving to Munich maybe 2 or 3 years to early.
We always think a famous name as coach is a guarantee for success. Thats bollocks, look at Tuchel at Bayern. Xavi at Barcelona ecc. There are plenty of examples. I think this is a good move. And I am glad a big Club like Bayern takes that risk.
How did this happen OMG
Kane: "What did I ever do wrong"
It is very brave of Bayern Munich to appoint Kompany as he's a very young, inexperienced manager who hasn't exactly stood out from the crowd of managers but.......... he's far from stupid, has a defined style and footballing philosophy and is a proper decent bloke.
I hope he does well, I really do, but I do fear for his career and reputation within the game if it all goes south.......... which I think it will.
I’m sorry. But, this is a desperate move by a giant club, that never would have looked in his direction, in any form. To think they can find another Xabi Alonso, is stupid. He’s a one of a kind man manager.
Yes, but he is also only human as could be seen by the spanking he got from Bergamo in the Europa Leage final.
I'm just here to praise Moreno's English. Fluent, clear and to the point; a rarity among Latino players turned English commentators.
Does Ale ever get tired of being wrong? Xavi's mistake was he didnt pick a good staff. Kompany needs a good staff.
Shaka, I didn’t see you show the same concern when Lampard was appointed as a Chelsea coach? The biases you display is unbelievable. Is it too much to ask you pundits to be consistent
They are obviously looking at the style of football Kompany wanted to play at Burnley , but he just didnt have the personnel to execute it in the premier league.
I think he may shock a few but yes it does seem like a mad appointment at the moment
This team is pretty stacked. If he can get this offense going then they should be great. Hope so for Kane’s sake.
I’m happy for him I bet if he do good all of them going to jump on the bandwagon and I think he could help the defense because they can’t defend to save their life
Madness. He played bad football at Burnley with virtually no plan or structure.
I’m starting to think Kane is a curse for any team he’s on. Lol😂😂😂😂😂😂
Give the guy a break he will do he's best at bayern even though I'm a man united fan I think kompany will do the job he has a great personality and he's a great coach.
I'm seeing this after they've already announced Xavi is gone and Flik is coming. Can't wait to see Ale respond to that.
If it was Eddie Howe or any other English coach am sure ESPN will be more understanding.
Vincent Kompany needs to get his assistants right. He needs to make sure he hires the right staff similar to what Arteta did. You are only as good as your assitants when you are starting off at big club.
I actually think Bayern style of futbol is changing. They will have to be more transitional with Tel, Musiala, Sane, Gnabry and Davies. The days of high pressing, high possession are over. Pep is only to do it because of his deep bench and 4 CBs. I think Bayern will take on the Real Madrid approach of a fusion of styles, which is what Kompany implemented with his squad of Championship players.
We can laugh at all the rejection. But not many self respecting top managers want a 1 year interim position. We all know who Bayern really wants.
Funny times for Kane, moving to Bayern and connecting with a championship coach.....
It might work out ppl ...Live and watch 😉...We talking football here . We got remember why we love this beauuuuuuuutiful game ✌️🙏
Bayern have tried to approach everyone including me if kompany says no they will be looking at my 5th grade PE teacher😂
Kompany will eventually become a winner some day but not with this Bayern team.
Bayern needs a quick fix, Kompany will be under pressure & it could be all over for them both in 4momths.
Unfortunately for Bayern they're not used to being turned down.
When the desired is unavailable the available becomes the desired.
None of these pundits know what's really going on. They seem oblivious to the fact that Bayern are only looking for a temporary 1 year manager right now. Everybody knows that Bayern are waiting for Xabi Alonso or Jurgen Klopp.
Man you are contradicting yourself there. "They seem oblivious...", but "Everybody knows..." ??
@@nikhilsrl everybody knows is just a term stating that the majority know, it's a part of speech called exaggeration, back of the class son, even though you opened quotation marks and put the capital letter, you still managed to fail, lol
If he does well he will NOT be temporary.
@@sunrisesunset1734 yeah yeah whatever
@@african-history-fountain if you had ovaries you'd be a woman... if is a crazy thing where anything can happen, lol
I will be shocked if this happens.
Where does kompany’s CV as a manager qualify him for Bayern?
We could have said the same about Hansi Flick