Undeniable Truths About The SSPX: Part 2

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  • Опубліковано 6 лип 2024
  • Sources:
    PCED confirms officially: Society of St. Pius X within the Church, not in formal schism; Catholics commit no sin nor incur any canonical penalty for Mass attendance
    web.archive.org/web/201110080...
    DECREE REMITTING
    THE EXCOMMUNICATION "LATAE SENTENTIAE"
    OF THE BISHOPS OF THE SOCIETY OF ST PIUS X
    www.vatican.va/roman_curia/co...
    APOSTOLIC LETTER
    "ECCLESIA DEI"
    OF THE SUPREME PONTIFF
    JOHN PAUL II
    GIVEN MOTU PROPRIO
    www.vatican.va/roman_curia/po...
    JOINT CATHOLIC-ORTHODOX DECLARATION
    OF HIS HOLINESS POPE PAUL VI
    AND THE ECUMENICAL PATRIARCH ATHENAGORAS I
    December 7, 1965
    www.vatican.va/content/paul-v...
    2003 Letter by Msgr. Camille Perl Regarding Society of St. Pius X Masses
    salbert.tripod.com/SSPXMasses...
    Hawaii 6 case ( link to relevant documents in the article)
    sspx.org/en/hawaii-six-case
    APOSTOLIC LETTER
    Misericordia et
    misera
    OF THE HOLY FATHER
    FRANCIS
    AT THE CONCLUSION
    OF THE EXTRAORDINARY
    JUBILEE OF MERCY
    www.vatican.va/content/france...
    Letter of the Pontifical Commission “Ecclesia Dei” to the Ordinaries of the Episcopal Conferences concerned on the faculties for the celebration of marriages of the faithful of the Society Saint Pius X, 04.04.2017
    press.vatican.va/content/sala...
    EXCLUSIVE: Archdiocese of Kansas City Comments on SSPX in Light of Recent Immaculata Church Consecration
    catholicfamilynews.com/blog/2...

КОМЕНТАРІ • 79

  • @justintrefney1083
    @justintrefney1083 2 місяці тому +6

    I wish I would have found videos like this in 2009. I attended an SSPX chapel in 09 and was blown away! I was so excited I told a friend of mine who was in the dioecian seminary about the TLM I went to once. He, without even asking if it was SSPX, FSSP or any other group, said "You can't attend the TLM. They are in schism." After that I slowly lost my faith and by 2015 I was a non practicing Catholic. Then I moved states and my new Bishop announced the FSSP would be coming to our diocese. That is when I learned that the FSSP were not in schism. During my 6 years there I began to learn that the SSPX were not in schism either. I have since moved to another state where there are SSPX, FSSP, and ICKSP within 20 minutes of me. After attending all of them for a short time I decided to attend the SSPX full time as of last year. It has been an amazing parish!

  • @orangemanbad
    @orangemanbad 5 місяців тому +63

    For me personally, I was against the SSPX. I am a member of an FSSP parish and prefer to stay under the catholic bishop. However, I can no longer pretend that SSPX isn’t serving a vital role for Christ. Francis attacking Catholicism and banning the Catholic mass is a stunning act of satanism against the faithful. So I do highly applaud the SSPX for standing firm to Christ.

    • @muztan3100
      @muztan3100 5 місяців тому +6

      You would not cease to be under your local Catholic bishop if you attended the SSPX chapels. They do not claim any jurisdiction over the local bishop. Their bishops only exist as auxiliaries (like Bishop Schneider) to provide sacraments and maintain the priesthood (long before and after the existence of the FSSP has ended)...

    • @orangemanbad
      @orangemanbad 5 місяців тому +5

      @@muztan3100 I personally love the FSSP. I hope the traditional movement can somehow unite as a coalition to advance the cause. Seems all the groups fight each other. At least the members do when we all have the same goal.

    • @erinmarie99
      @erinmarie99 5 місяців тому +3

      @@orangemanbadI think a lot depends on personal geography…not all of us have the luxury of attending whichever chapel we individually decide best suits theology and tradition…most of us are limited by where we can drive to within a reasonable time frame! I too attend FSSP, but if a SSPV were around I would probably go there and if the bishop cracks down on my FFSP, I would certainly be grateful for an SSPX. It’s something I may have to seek out in the future depending on the state of the church and mass. I’d better not have too hard an opinion on it!

    • @vonhalberstadt3590
      @vonhalberstadt3590 5 місяців тому +9

      We, the parishioners of the FSSP, owe everything to Archbishop Lefebvre.
      I and many others expect him to be canonized at some point.
      Orémus Y'all.

    • @erinmarie99
      @erinmarie99 5 місяців тому +8

      @@vonhalberstadt3590 Amen to that! It irritates me when I hear FSSP parishioners complain about the SSPX…we owe our existence to their founder!

  • @TheJayJaydog
    @TheJayJaydog 4 місяці тому +11

    SSPX rules! They saved my soul. I can speak because I witness the destruction that happened in the 70's. A dystopian horror...The rape of Beauty Purity and Innocence..I suffered greatly like so many. The Archbishop is a Saint. Ok? Case closed.

  • @allenhewerdine3360
    @allenhewerdine3360 5 місяців тому +8

    Imagine, there was a time when these types of questions were not necessary at all. Pray for a future where, once again, every Catholic is assured that every church and every sacrament is valid and the requirements to enter into and remain in a state of grace were clear.

  • @tanksgt
    @tanksgt 5 місяців тому +23

    I asked my Bishop shortly after John Salza was on Matt Fradd's show. He said "I can't tell you not to go" .

    • @dawncresci2724
      @dawncresci2724 5 місяців тому +5

      JOHN went to SSPX for many years. He also was given an award by the masons in 2019. A sheep in wolf clothing.

    • @JamesHarrison687
      @JamesHarrison687 5 місяців тому +1

      @@dawncresci2724a wolf in sheep clothing*? What award was he given

    • @dawncresci2724
      @dawncresci2724 5 місяців тому

      @@JamesHarrison687 and award by the freemasonry. Look up tradcatniight or nite. It shows him receiving an award. He was into freemasonry. He went to sspx for

    • @1945yousef
      @1945yousef 5 місяців тому

      Really? More info on that award​@@dawncresci2724

    • @CatholicMailman
      @CatholicMailman 3 місяці тому

      @@dawncresci2724 please show proof of Mr. John Salza’s Masan award?

  • @AK_Catholic_Traditional
    @AK_Catholic_Traditional 5 місяців тому +8

    Only Bishop Bishop Williamson is not afraid to speak the harsh Truth. He doesn’t sugarcoat it.
    From WW2 to women’s "liberation" movement etc…

    • @karlheven8328
      @karlheven8328 5 місяців тому

      He even claimed there were no *** chambers. FFS, you think that is a reasonable position?

    • @BiblicalJosephXP
      @BiblicalJosephXP 5 місяців тому +1

      I think so in this aspect Bishop Williamson is correct but he is also an “apparitionist” in some aspects. That being said I also don’t think he is really excommunicated.

  • @HughConlon82528101
    @HughConlon82528101 5 місяців тому +4

    Again, your content and perspective is so valuable to this follower. I sincerely urge you to continue to provide accurate and well sourced information. It truly helps those of us not well versed but, well formed.

  • @Paule_LMS
    @Paule_LMS 4 місяці тому +2

    The nearest SSPX to me is a 2 1/2 hour drive and I don't drive at all. My husband is not a Catholic and would not relocate for my Catholicism when there is a Catholic parish every few blocks in the city I now reside in.
    The majority of people cannot attend an SSPX and yet, ever since I converted to Catholicism, I see it as a major issue on the internet. I am not anti-SSPX but too many people are using their distance from one as an excuse to miss their Sunday and Holy Days of obligation.
    I have found the best Mass in my area to receive the sacraments and am thankful. There may be days of persecution ahead where we will realize that we took it for granted.

  • @HillSummitHomestead
    @HillSummitHomestead 4 місяці тому +3

    The painful irony of the modernists screaming "schism" and accusing Catholics adhering to Doctrine and Traditions rigidly in accordance with the directions and teachings of The Apostles of it, is possibly an excellent example of an oxymoron, that should be in all dictionaries.
    The destructive confusion caused by modernists and all those wanting to adapt to the ways of man and in doing so, deviating from the ways of God and God's one and only Holy Catholic Church seems to be more than just "devisive".
    Tenete Traditiones.
    God bless.

  • @Jaegerrrrr
    @Jaegerrrrr 5 місяців тому +3

    Hey I just wanna say I love your videos, I think I have watched them all. You are really talented in analyzing and explaining information!
    I have one question, what is your view on learning the Catholic prayers in Latin? I really like the Gregorian liturgy and Psalms music and I feel more connected to it in the Latin.

  • @TS-ex4ql
    @TS-ex4ql 5 місяців тому +1

    Good videos, well said. Please do a video on the Sunday obligation and when it would or would not apply. Canon law will explain a text book explanation, but there is much outside the box and common sense required by a soul who is trying to keep the Faith and save their soul. It’s not black or white. Too many people will say that you must suffer through a guitar Mass complete with altar girls if that is all there is available, but that just cannot be the case, unless the average person has completely lost the ability to rationalize and think.
    SSPX Priests will say it is better you stay home and sanctify Sunday in that manner, rather than attend a Novus Ordo Mass or even Indult TLMs, like FSSP or TLMs offered by Novus Ordo Priests. Perhaps in certain cases the SSPX would advise attending a FSSP Mass once in a while if you have no other option and cannot make a semi regular trip to a SSPX Chapel, but I have heard is said that even FSSP Masses should be avoided due to their compromises with modernist Rome, as well as the close relations with Novus Ordo Bishops where they operate.

  • @somnathganapa5789
    @somnathganapa5789 Місяць тому

    Thank you for your videos! With regards to canon law 1335, has a latae sententiae censure been declared for the sspx and its priests?

  • @James-fk2ki
    @James-fk2ki 5 місяців тому +2

    Who am i to judge those who attend the sspx mass?

  • @user-pg5xt4bq4w
    @user-pg5xt4bq4w 5 місяців тому

    Thanks for the videos on this topic it is very confusing

  • @FloridaCrusader
    @FloridaCrusader 5 місяців тому

    can you make more videos refuting orthodoxy i saw the vid you made about but im still not sure

  • @codyj.braunva5406
    @codyj.braunva5406 5 місяців тому +4

    Also Conchita, who is said to reveal the date of the miracle 8 days prior, is returning to Spain, if that is also important.

    • @carissstewart3211
      @carissstewart3211 5 місяців тому +2

      Interesting...

    • @rubenmartinez4346
      @rubenmartinez4346 5 місяців тому +1

      What news outlet did you hear this?

    • @CatholicMailman
      @CatholicMailman 3 місяці тому

      Garabandal? Seers walking backwards in the middle of the night is a big question mark ❓ for me. 🤷‍♂️

  • @Evan_Vancomycindog
    @Evan_Vancomycindog 4 місяці тому

    Hey could you make a video on the SSPX-MC/Resistance

  • @maddogproductions2916
    @maddogproductions2916 5 місяців тому +1

    I did some research and found out that this year, on Thursday, March 14th is the feast day of St. Matrona of Thessaloniki. She was martyred at 15. Perhaps something that has to do with Garabandal

  • @julielolos4552
    @julielolos4552 5 місяців тому

    Yep!

  • @wjm4268
    @wjm4268 5 місяців тому +1

    Great Video. Just wondering why Cardinal Burke, who is a cannon Lawyer says the sspx is in Schism? E. Michael Jones thinks so to.

    • @imisschristendom5293
      @imisschristendom5293  5 місяців тому +7

      True, but fr hesse, also a canon lawyer said they're not, bishop strickland, bishop Schneider.. watch part 1 if you haven't

    • @johnmorgan4313
      @johnmorgan4313 2 місяці тому

      See (c1382) excommunication was not incurred
      (C1323 7) (C1324 3 & 1-8)
      On 1st May, 1991, Bishop Ferrario of Hawaii excommunicated certain Catholics of his diocese for attending Mass said by SSPX clergy & receiving a SSPX Bishop for Confirmations. Cardinal Ratzinger , Prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, overturned that decision. 🙏

  • @user-qb5fz2tr6p
    @user-qb5fz2tr6p 3 місяці тому

    I am a member of the Novus Ordo church, however I was told that I could not receive Holy Communion in the SSPX chapel.

    • @RPlavo
      @RPlavo 3 місяці тому

      They offend Jesus’ prayer for unity. By the way, trads pick and choose from tradition and Scripture like anyone else

  • @My3.Boys.
    @My3.Boys. 18 днів тому

    If your child wants to become a priest, which seminary would you recommend them to go to SSPX or FSSP?

  • @bolapromatoqueejogodecampe8718
    @bolapromatoqueejogodecampe8718 5 місяців тому +1

    Let the haters wallow in their hate. How about a video about Garabandal? Your video about Medjugorje was a masterpiece.
    Regarding Garabandal:
    1 Joey L never regained his sight.
    2 A man Conchita said was going to be a priest never became one
    3 The alleged St Michael asked the supposed seers how nice his teeth were.
    4 The supposed seers were going to steal apples
    ....and there is more

  • @ginomaietta2702
    @ginomaietta2702 5 місяців тому +1

    Hello, I am diving deep into Catholicism and your channel (and others) are creating more questions than I ever imagined. What is "Union of Utrecht (Old Catholic)" and how does it relate or not to the SSPX, FSSP? It would be nice to see a video on all these differences. As protestant I thought only we had too many denominations but it seems the Catholic church is not completely united, in a sense. Just seeking more understanding, thank you!

    • @sanjivjhangiani3243
      @sanjivjhangiani3243 5 місяців тому +1

      The "Old Catholics" dissented from Vatican One in the 1800s. Utrecht is the town in Holland where the main branch of Old Catholics are headquartered, so they also became known as the "Utrecht group." They rejected the doctrine of Papal infallibility.
      This is a mostly separate movement from the various strands of traditional Catholicism, whose quarrel is with Vatican Two.
      However, some branches of the Old Catholics have marketed themselves to traditional Catholics as offering the traditional Latin mass, etc. Also, because it's relatively easy to get ordained a priest or consecrate a bishop in the Old Catholic movement, some traditional Catholics have gotten connected to that movement.

    • @ginomaietta2702
      @ginomaietta2702 5 місяців тому +2

      @@sanjivjhangiani3243 Thank you for that. I have read some info on Wikipedia about it, so what about it's communion status with the Vatican and how does it affect communion with traditional churches? If you are not in communion with the Vatican does that put them in a fringe category, kind of like Mormons are to Protestants? Just FYI, I'm getting most of my education from apologists like Scott Hahn, Trent Horn, Jimmy Akin and people like them. I might be diving in too deep for someone who is slowly getting the conviction to convert, but then again I think it's important to know. If someone were going the opposite way, there is a HUGE difference between a Baptist and a Mormon or Jehova's Witness...Thanks again.

    • @maddogproductions2916
      @maddogproductions2916 5 місяців тому +4

      Good for you on look deeper into Catholicism. I highly recommend Taylor Marshall, Kennedy Hall, and the channel Sensus Fidelium

    • @johnmorgan4313
      @johnmorgan4313 2 місяці тому +1

      May I suggest you read online "Open Letter to Confused Catholics " by Abp Marcel Lefebvre . Also Online Apostolic Constitution QUO PRIMUM issued in AD 1570 by POPE SAINT PIUS FIFTH, SSPX podcast "Crisis in the Church" series , videos by Canonist Father. Gregory Hesse: Father Paul Kramer, and Catholic Family News not forgetting Father Nicholas Gruner from the Fatima Centre. 🙏 God bless. Persevere. Your soul is valuable discern the truth. 🇭🇲🦘

  • @sololoquy3783
    @sololoquy3783 5 місяців тому

    Pope Benedict lifted the 4 bishops excommunication, implying that the auto-excomm were indeed triggered & was in effect. However Levebvre excommunication were not lifted, is it because he's passed away so no longer necessary to lift? As I understood it is totally possible to lift an excommunication after death, but I don't know what's the implication of that, is it simply to signal to the people that it's fine to pray/seek their intercession, or what..

  • @codyj.braunva5406
    @codyj.braunva5406 5 місяців тому +3

    There’s some rumors about the warning and miracle happening this year. Any thoughts?

    • @orangemanbad
      @orangemanbad 5 місяців тому +2

      Nobody knows. But it’s coming soon because she is, I believe, 78 years old.

    • @maddogproductions2916
      @maddogproductions2916 5 місяців тому +1

      March 14th is a Thursday and is the feast day of St. Matrona of Thessaloniki. She was martyred at 15

    • @christopherfeeney1962
      @christopherfeeney1962 5 місяців тому

      Yes, but she could, theoretically, live into her 90s! ​@@orangemanbad

  • @28JV9321
    @28JV9321 5 місяців тому +4

    Bishop Williamson is the bravest out of the 4 consecrated by Lefebvre in my opinion and is not afraid to speak out. IMC, great work on your videos

    • @karlheven8328
      @karlheven8328 5 місяців тому

      Yeah buddy, he even said there were no *** chambers... Crazy

  • @PrometheanKitchen96
    @PrometheanKitchen96 5 місяців тому

    I've been attending the SSPX for about a year and a half now and I think it's a really good mass. But sometimes I also attend the Ukrainian Greek Catholic Church because there's one in my hometown and it's closer. But I do like the beauty of the TLM but the TLM in my areas more than an hour away

  • @user-ji2on8eg3l
    @user-ji2on8eg3l 5 місяців тому +1

    The Church that Jesus Christ built on his rock Peter is the Catholic Church. His light on Earth is The Church.

  • @texangentlemen3115
    @texangentlemen3115 5 місяців тому

    If Williamson can’t stand along with his original compadres than he’s not one I could make deals with.

  • @princessfrogdiaries9379
    @princessfrogdiaries9379 5 місяців тому +1

    Is the Diocesan Latin Mass preferable to the SSPX Mass?

  • @ReiRei12
    @ReiRei12 5 місяців тому

    Face reveal?

  • @EvilEgg331
    @EvilEgg331 5 місяців тому +1

    Hey IMC, I got 2 video ideas for you: A video about the Catholic Church “preventing” people from reading scripture, and a video about the Palmarian Catholic Church, which is a church located in Spain in schism with Rome, they even have an anti-pope.

    • @imisschristendom5293
      @imisschristendom5293  5 місяців тому +7

      I have this video:
      Did the Catholic church ban the bible
      ua-cam.com/video/R42Mb3eZ1mU/v-deo.htmlsi=gh1LnRG_JPARTbDU
      And the other idea? I plan on eventually doing one on the Thuc consecrations, which will include the Palmarian church

    • @EvilEgg331
      @EvilEgg331 5 місяців тому +3

      @@imisschristendom5293 Oh ok cool. I didn’t see you already had a vid on it. Thanks

    • @Belladicta
      @Belladicta 5 місяців тому +2

      ​@@imisschristendom5293did you see the vid on Thuc of the priest who was there when he was kidnapped at the end?

    • @Christ_is_King-
      @Christ_is_King- 5 місяців тому +1

      @@imisschristendom5293​​⁠ can you do another Eastern Orthodox video

  • @bobbie8059
    @bobbie8059 2 місяці тому +1

    Propaganda.