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I was thinking on this idea 15 years ago and finally installed one at my 22 marla home in islamabad 2 years ago.but ist not that much easy what you explained rather its a measures of complex measurement with high accuracy.After many failed attempts finally i made it perfect and now its working perfectly and i do not needs to on my AC durning the summers.i used copper pipe instead of galvanised iron and its just super.now im enjoying 25 degree Celsius inside my home during the summer with just a 12 volt battery power.
वेरी नाइस वीडियो भाई जी मैं भी इस सिस्टम को लगाना चाहता था परंतु घर बनाते समय लग नहीं पाया विदेश में भी लोग यह सिस्टम उपयोग करते हैं और इसमें बीच में एनर्जी रिकवरी सिस्टम लगाया जाता है मुझे भी लगता है कि यह एनर्जी बढ़ाने के लिए एक बहुत अच्छा सॉल्यूशन है
Simply bolu to aap advance concept pr baat kr rhe h Jo hamari samjh se Bahar h jb tk koi isaka demo na ho aur hame ye pta na ho ki ye hamare liye profitable h ki nhi
It's very good that you have thought of geothermal energy for medium and small scale. I will like to add that using G.I pipe will is not a fesible idea as it will increase the cost to a large scale. Also to bend those pipes will creat the problem of cracks in the bend. There will be lots of issues in the begining but can be solved. you can use alluminum pipes which are more flexible and rust free also.
GI coated w/zinc provides increased resistance but is not going to be corrosion proof over a considerable period of time. The way our properties are structured, majority of installation will have something on the ground level (above the pipes - mostly landscaped gardens etc. Ppl will be vary of investing or become party to such a venture if there is even an iota of a chance that the GI structure may fail and that the whole thing may have to be uprooted. This may lead to a lot of destruction of say landscaped gardens etc. Chance of coolant leaking into the ground may just put off many normal right minded people. GI systems (especially joints) are not a particularly attractive option when it comes to their pressure handling capabilities. At some level a no leak guarantee will not be a landmine that can be sidestepped. This is where a PEX installation will prove invaluable. 0 leaks underground can be guaranteed if the the installer is even moderately trained. GI will require above par (=₹₹₹) installers. I can understand the bit about reduced load transfer capability of PEX but that has to be properly quantified and then compared to the challenges that a GI system will pose.
Mere khyal se isme compressure use nahi hoga isliye power consumption bahut kam ho jayega, lekin aapko ise green banane ke liye solar power ka bhi option rakhna chahiye. Baki apki soch kabile taarif hai.
Iske liye aap 1.5 ton ye2 ton ac ka 3 ya 4 condensor le liye aur unko apas mei connect kar ke toilet wali tunki ki tarha deep hole kar ke dafan kar dijiye aur try kijiye G.I pipe se zayada achha work krega aur kabadi ke yaha se lene pr sasta bhi padega..
आपकी सोच और प्रयास सफल होने के बाद आम जनता जो आज ए को जरूरत के साथ साथ status symbol मान रही है, यदि उपयोग करने लगे तो ग्लोबल वार्मिंग कम करने मे सफलता मिलेगी।
Commenting for better cooling input, 1. Fan direction as it is used as suction or pusher kind off 2. The coolant ratio as for premix 3. Necessity of coolant as for indian climate needs 4. Radiator type lowered fin downfall kind to be 5. Action in reverse to make modular system as for blower or heater 6. Placement and geographical assessment for system installation You can take it as input or if require support let's connect
Yes it works, I have tried in the bore well pipe. I inserted the GI pipe in bore well passed the radiator cooling for heat transfer media,but problem comes immediately as the minerals get solidify at outer surface of GI pipe and becomes useless,or take out the pipe and clean and then insert in the bore well.Results were not encouraging.
you may need a small tank at least a height 2 times higher than the suction head of the pump filled with coolant or water connected to this cooing line/pump to remove any airlock or loss of liquid over long-term operation.
Simple tarika , zameen main bore Karo niche se pipe se motor pani legi , vahi motor Truck ya bus ke Radiator main pani circle karegi , fan se Radiator ke beech se Air Pass hogi , Air cool ho jayegi, Duct pipe se room cool karo
Har room me coolent vala Pani pressure se pahuchana hoga . Or room me DX units lagana hoga Humdidity bhi calculte karni hogi . Costing bhaut ho jaygi or accuracy nahi milegi .
I am from kashmir. Here its too cold during winters and also electricity is not much available during winters and using even if its available then the monthly bills costs go up as heaters consume a lot of power. But if such a thing can brought to kashmir, i believe everyone would install it.
Very exited about this. I'm planning to build my home next month. I wish I could get this. I will have 100 sq ft built up area. Could potentially lay the pipes under pathway or even the front garden. How much would this cost? Approximately?
can that system be run with solar power and if yes how much power Inverter will be required? also how much cooling can be achieved. i need that info for a school project with 7000 sqr ft covered area.
Brother , I installed few geothermal systems in India and they are working fine. This is not how a geo system installed. The pipes are HDPE and they exchange heat via GSHP. There is no coolant , normally water with glycol goes as antifreeze.
जब आप उसको ट्राई करो तो उसमें यह चीज ध्यान रखना कि आप l 1.5 टन एसी की कॉलिंग के बराबर एक्सपेरिमेंट करना उसके लिए पता चल जाएगा तो 1.5 टन एक को चलाने में कितना खर्चा आता है महीने का यह सालाना और इसे लगाने से हमें क्या बेनिफिट होगा जो आप एक्सपेरिमेंट करोगे और उसकी कास्ट भी बताना
Sir it is a good concept,Saw this in some youtube video long ago,but this is going to create lot of maintenance issues depending on the coil material quality, installation process and manpower expertise. it is not as simple as "fit and forget" type. better is wind energy. but no Bharatiya entrepreneurs.
Simply burying the pipes in soil will cause ground water contamination with heavy metals, you should incorporate a mechanism of water percolation ( specifically rain water), in soil bypassing these pipes
Sir, Mera cold store ka kaam h jha muje 14-15 degree Celsius temperature chahiye hota h, kya hum is system ko hybrid way me bna skte h ? Jisme normal ac plus iss system ko add kr diya jaaye
Sir major city's mein aaj kal basement har koi banata hai construction kai time aur uski depth Approx 10 sai 15 ft tak hoti he hai toh Waha hum is system ko install kr sakte hai
Mòter or reditor jho chalaga woh bi toh electrcity lega.. ushe solar penal seh connect karo ..taki free elecrcity mil sake.. ishe loop ko chalane ke liye
Can copper pipes be used instead of GI as the heat exchange would be better than GI. I am planning as well to setup a small prototype and hence request your response on this.
The cost of these huge length of underground GI pipes (which will eventually rust anyway and need replacing) makes this type of cooling impractical in India (this system more useful in colder country). Better in our climate to use simple cooling tower with water on the roof, it will be circulated to a normal aircon that has water cooled radiator! Or if you have nearby pond you can use its water instead. Small pump won't consume much power overall you would save power on AC
Use copper tube for underground line with one small steel water tank, both are should be fixed underground. Standby water pump shall be run on required comfortable air.
Try to deploy machine learning algorithms in the software of this proposed prototype so that efficiency of the overall system could be increased and cost issue will be resolved as well
agar ye pipe boaring mai hi daal di jae to.. jis boaring se ham gaon mai pani nikalte hai.. esi mai do pipe in,out ka daal k bhi chal sakta hai.. paani se aur ziyada thandi hawa hogi..
Same Question hai,, boaring open loop me kitna success hai, 2nd water circulation se kitna bed effects pad sakta hai well ko. Continue kitna samay chal sakta hai, temperature rise hone se..¿…
@@lumencity mera matlab same Boaring se nhi tha jisse Pani ata hai.. Jis tarah se Apki video mai show hoa hai , JCB se ek Large area ko Dig kar fir usme Cable Dale.. Usse Better hai k.. Boaring kar k water level tak... Eska cost bhi bahut kam hota hai.. phir esmain Cable Dale to.. ? Deep to hoga hi,. Plus Water bhi hoga.. Double cooling,.. Mai abhi Bihar Mai hon.., Garmi mai Bhai sahab App Boaring k Pani se Naha k dekho,. Jab Pani body par padta hai to , bilkul ice ki tarah hota hai.. Cooling ka jawab nhi hoga.
Panjab mai ek kisan ne bnaya h ye new kothi bnayi h uske back pe 50feet niche tak lift size gadda bnaya h or purre ghar mai ac k vent de k niche se air ko ghar mai flow karta h
@@lumencity matlab direct water mei sei hawako flow karake jaise hukka mei hota hai jo smoke hota hai woh waterke andar jakar fir upar ati hai usi tarah.
How do we calculate this cooling system as in ton/hp as we generally buy ac from the market… And what is the price and electricity difference between this and a split ac..??
The Traditional 1Ton ac has a capacity of 18000 BTU but when it geothermal the capacity would depend upon various variables like underground pipe length + Radiator Size etc, but we would try and simplify the calculation based on amount of coolant which would be used in the system for which we actually need to built the system
But They would already have pipes in them, plus the surface area we need to cool down the coolant would not be sufficient and plus we have to create a loop of pipes one input and one output But I guess It can be done and tested 👍 Great Work
I think ground water system is more efficient need two bore one for incomming and second for outgoing ground system work only for few hours after that soil will heat and efficiency go down
Instead of underground earth, I think under ground water tank can also solve the same purpose. Many of us already build an house and no extra land available to dig down these pipe. May be it's not efficient as Earth and something is better than nothing.
जरा ध्यान से सोचें व बताएँ और जिस प्रकार, मनुष्य के जीवन यापन के लिए अति आवश्यक हैं, उसी प्रकार जीवन की गुणवत्ता बनाए रखने के लिए भी महत्त्वपूर्ण हैं। लेकिन तौपीय प्रदूषण जब कारखानों तथा तापघरों से गर्म जल को बिना ठंडा किए ही नदियों तथा तालाबों में छोड़ दिया जाता है, यह विधि में भारत की अपेक्षा अन्य देशों में ज्यादा प्रयोग होता ह लेकिन gi पाइप की जगह एल्यूमिनियम पाइप का प्रयोग किया जाए यद्यपि विकास का एक उज्जवल भविष्य है।
(1)Coolant leakage ek badi problem hogi ground water polluted hoga . (2)Agar earthquake Aya or underground pipeline block ho gyi to repair kese hogi (3) Ghar shift krne pr sift nhi kr skte Baaki sb to thik hee hoga
I will explain it in simple manner To achieve 10 Ton of cooling capacity which is more than enough for a 200sq yard house you have to Use a 6x10 ft hole with a depth of 15 ft [Better if it's below the water tank], Use copper pipes but GI pipes can also be used You will have to use multiple radiators as a single large fan and radiator will look bad and also the noise will be super high for a home There are some more things that can be done for a better system but I think you'll find them in your research.
bhai jitna lamba tubing karoge utna jyada liquid friction hoga. Jiske waja se pumping me motor power jyada lagea. Moto energy saving ka fullfill kaha hua phir ??????
एक कमरा को ठंड करने के लिए,A C से निकलने वाली Heat चार घरों को गर्म कर देता है।। इस वजह से गर्मी के दिनों मे अत्यधिक गर्मी बड़ गई है।। होना ये, चाहिए कि आप वातावरण में गर्मी ना फैलाए।।
जमीन में जो पाइप दबाया जा रहा है वह होरिजेंटल है क्या उसे वर्टिकल किया जा सकता है कम घर छोटे घर वालों के बहुत कम से कम जगह होता है इसे 50 100 फीट नीचे बड़ा कुआं की तरह गड्डा करके और उसमें पाइप को लपेटकर सिलेंडर के फॉर्म में ऊपर लाया जा सकता है?
Will cost a lot, simply one can install 10 12 feet underground metal pipe with one opening at outside 12 15 feet far from the house, one opening at inside the house with exhaust fan for air suction through the pipe, this should work upto some extent
It would Not be much helpful due to following reasons 1) Outside air would be very Hot or cold depending upon the outside temperature and a 10-12 Ft pipe would not make much difference to the temperature of the air 2) The specific Heat capacity of air is much lower than water 3) It would cause lots of maintenance issues with blocked pipes and dusk getting into your home
I think 10 to 15 degree change hi hoga to ye to direct and indirect 2 stage evaporative cooling jesa hi huva, fir to ye cost effective nahi hai, just for cooling purpose, isski jagah first stage pe evaporative cooling se Pani ko thanda Karo Bahar aur motor se us thanda pani ko room ke rediator se jodo aur cool karo
bakwas. better idea geothermal hi hai. bas land honi chahiye ya govt water pipeline se bhi do join lekar us se cooling le sakte hai ya phir windows ac ki out side unit room ke bahar karke uski heating coil condensore ko water tape se cool karke electricity bacha sakte hai.
simple example , in hot weather we get cold ground water because of latent heat transfer, in cold weather we get hot ground water. next time please check temp difference, thanks
GI coated w/zinc provides increased resistance but is not going to be corrosion proof over a considerable period of time. The way our properties are structured, majority of installation will have something on the ground level (above the pipes - mostly landscaped gardens etc. Ppl will be vary of investing or become party to such a venture if there is even an iota of a chance that the GI structure may fail and that the whole thing may have to be uprooted. This may lead to a lot of destruction of say landscaped gardens etc. Chance of coolant leaking into the ground may just put off many normal right minded people. GI systems (especially joints) are not a particularly attractive option when it comes to their pressure handling capabilities. At some level a no leak guarantee will not be a landmine that can be sidestepped. This is where a PEX installation will prove invaluable. 0 leaks underground can be guaranteed if the the installer is even moderately trained. GI will require above par (=₹₹₹) installers. I can understand the bit about reduced load transfer capability of PEX but that has to be properly quantified and then compared to the challenges that a GI system will pose.
@@lumencity then again apply compressor also to increase efficiency of system because earth temp is going to be same na using that you may decrease electricity consumption
@@sayal433 compressor ki body ka tempreture aur outdoor unit ki jagah tube in tube condensor laga kar lectricity ka load ghataya ja sakta hai aur agar ice battery bhi saath mein bana di jaaye to pura ghar kam kam kharch mein ho jaayega
@@lumencity do not use radiator, use indoor ac unit aur ise geothermal ke coolant water se connect kar de yeh bilkul sahi kaam karti hai aur agar effeciency nahi mile to water coolant se chalne waale alag se split indoor unit aati hai jo faridabad , noida ki companiya bhi bana rahi hai
क्या आप जानते हैं कि भारत के आधे से अधिक प्राकृतिक वन लगभग खत्म हो चुके हैं? एक-तिहाई जलमग्न भूमि (wetland) सूख चुकी है. 70 प्रतिशत धरातलीय जल क्षेत्र (water bodies) प्रदूषित हैं, 40 प्रतिशत मैंग्रोव क्षेत्र लुप्त हो चुका है और जंगली जानवरों के शिकार और व्यापार तथा वाणिज्य की दृष्टि से कीमती पेड़-पौधों की कटाई के कारण हजारों वनस्पति और वन्य जीव जातियाँ लुप्त होने के कगार पर पहुँच गई हैं।
Prithvi par 5 baar se upar Maha sarvanash ho chukaa hai aur fir se puri prithvi par 5 baar jeevan puraa fail chuka hai. To ye part of process hai . Manav ka bhi anta hogaa gar manav prithivi chodkar baaki graho par naa basaa toi
Coolant is costly.. good coolant is around 500 per litre.. it means 20k 30k would be spent in coolant and labour and GI pipe and motor electricity power consumption and radiator fan power consumption would be too costly and this system will replace only 2ton AC max..
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I was thinking on this idea 15 years ago and finally installed one at my 22 marla home in islamabad 2 years ago.but ist not that much easy what you explained rather its a measures of complex measurement with high accuracy.After many failed attempts finally i made it perfect and now its working perfectly and i do not needs to on my AC durning the summers.i used copper pipe instead of galvanised iron and its just super.now im enjoying 25 degree Celsius inside my home during the summer with just a 12 volt battery power.
Could u please share details, how actually u have done it finally
Wonder ful I also thought of cooper insded galvanised .would u please share ur project made at ur home
Hi, Could you please share your Whatsapp number or Email address?
I was really thing of installing this system myself.
I am also from Pakistan aswell.
Slm. Plz tell me what is the total length of the pipe you used in the system and how much water it carries.
Hi, Could you share your whatsapp number?
I am also from pakistan
वेरी नाइस वीडियो भाई जी मैं भी इस सिस्टम को लगाना चाहता था परंतु घर बनाते समय लग नहीं पाया विदेश में भी लोग यह सिस्टम उपयोग करते हैं और इसमें बीच में एनर्जी रिकवरी सिस्टम लगाया जाता है मुझे भी लगता है कि यह एनर्जी बढ़ाने के लिए एक बहुत अच्छा सॉल्यूशन है
Ye project ko mere students ne last year kuch alag style se banaya tha.is project ko hame 100000 rs ka price bhi mila .
Simply bolu to aap advance concept pr baat kr rhe h Jo hamari samjh se Bahar h jb tk koi isaka demo na ho aur hame ye pta na ho ki ye hamare liye profitable h ki nhi
It's very good that you have thought of geothermal energy for medium and small scale. I will like to add that using G.I pipe will is not a fesible idea as it will increase the cost to a large scale. Also to bend those pipes will creat the problem of cracks in the bend. There will be lots of issues in the begining but can be solved. you can use alluminum pipes which are more flexible and rust free also.
Great advice 🫡 Thank You
GI coated w/zinc provides increased resistance but is not going to be corrosion proof over a considerable period of time.
The way our properties are structured, majority of installation will have something on the ground level (above the pipes - mostly landscaped gardens etc.
Ppl will be vary of investing or become party to such a venture if there is even an iota of a chance that the GI structure may fail and that the whole thing may have to be uprooted. This may lead to a lot of destruction of say landscaped gardens etc.
Chance of coolant leaking into the ground may just put off many normal right minded people.
GI systems (especially joints) are not a particularly attractive option when it comes to their pressure handling capabilities.
At some level a no leak guarantee will not be a landmine that can be sidestepped. This is where a PEX installation will prove invaluable. 0 leaks underground can be guaranteed if the the installer is even moderately trained.
GI will require above par (=₹₹₹) installers.
I can understand the bit about reduced load transfer capability of PEX but that has to be properly quantified and then compared to the challenges that a GI system will pose.
Can it be accommodated in the excavation when making new construction
Mere khyal se isme compressure use nahi hoga isliye power consumption bahut kam ho jayega, lekin aapko ise green banane ke liye solar power ka bhi option rakhna chahiye. Baki apki soch kabile taarif hai.
Iske liye aap 1.5 ton ye2 ton ac ka 3 ya 4 condensor le liye aur unko apas mei connect kar ke toilet wali tunki ki tarha deep hole kar ke dafan kar dijiye aur try kijiye G.I pipe se zayada achha work krega aur kabadi ke yaha se lene pr sasta bhi padega..
Really liked the video, these sustainable things should be brought to mainstream......a must like to video instantly.
जब मन बना ही लिया, तो नतीजा अंजाम तक पहुंच कर रहेगा।।
जानता हूं, थोड़ा बहुत
आपकी सोच और प्रयास सफल होने के बाद आम जनता जो आज ए को जरूरत के साथ साथ status symbol मान रही है, यदि उपयोग करने लगे तो ग्लोबल वार्मिंग कम करने मे सफलता मिलेगी।
Commenting for better cooling input,
1. Fan direction as it is used as suction or pusher kind off
2. The coolant ratio as for premix
3. Necessity of coolant as for indian climate needs
4. Radiator type lowered fin downfall kind to be
5. Action in reverse to make modular system as for blower or heater
6. Placement and geographical assessment for system installation
You can take it as input or if require support let's connect
मैं प्रयागराज यूपी से बोल रहा हूं आपका सिस्टम बहुत अच्छा है मगर इसमें अगर कॉपर की पाइप लगाएंगे तो कूलिंग सिस्टम बहुत जबरदस्त और फास्ट वर्क करेगा
Copper bhaut mehnga padega
Copper or almunium ki life kum hote hai zameen k ander ye dono metals jlde khrab hojaiga
Can this be installed with the base of the house while building as will be best utilisation of space
Yes it works, I have tried in the bore well pipe. I inserted the GI pipe in bore well passed the radiator cooling for heat transfer media,but problem comes immediately as the minerals get solidify at outer surface of GI pipe and becomes useless,or take out the pipe and clean and then insert in the bore well.Results were not encouraging.
thank god that you are doing this in scenario of increasing cost of elect demand and global warming such sys should be subsidized in future by govt
I am not engineer but I heard about the cooling battery you guys can add as a hybrid system use solar panel to cool water in day and use in a night
you may need a small tank at least a height 2 times higher than the suction head of the pump filled with coolant or water connected to this cooing line/pump to remove any airlock or loss of liquid over long-term operation.
All the best for the prototype looking forward to see it working soon
Simple tarika , zameen main bore Karo niche se pipe se motor pani legi , vahi motor Truck ya bus ke Radiator main pani circle karegi , fan se Radiator ke beech se Air Pass hogi , Air cool ho jayegi, Duct pipe se room cool karo
Outlet paani ka kyaa hogaa??
Har room me coolent vala Pani pressure se pahuchana hoga .
Or room me DX units lagana hoga
Humdidity bhi calculte karni hogi .
Costing bhaut ho jaygi or accuracy nahi milegi .
Light ka bill 😂 to aye ga
Ye to cooler vala system ban gaya
Aapko coolant level check karne waala device bhi saath me install karna chahiye radiator to aur jab uski level kam ho jaaye uski refilling bhi ho sake
I am from kashmir. Here its too cold during winters and also electricity is not much available during winters and using even if its available then the monthly bills costs go up as heaters consume a lot of power. But if such a thing can brought to kashmir, i believe everyone would install it.
Very exited about this. I'm planning to build my home next month. I wish I could get this. I will have 100 sq ft built up area. Could potentially lay the pipes under pathway or even the front garden.
How much would this cost? Approximately?
Instead of using 90° bands. Try using banded pipes for batter flow if it is possible.
can that system be run with solar power and if yes how much power Inverter will be required? also how much cooling can be achieved. i need that info for a school project with 7000 sqr ft covered area.
आपकी बात बिल्कुल सही है इसी तरह से ट्यूबवेल का पानी गर्मियों में 15 डिग्री आता है और सर्दियों में 25 डिग्री 🙏
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Brother , I installed few geothermal systems in India and they are working fine. This is not how a geo system installed. The pipes are HDPE and they exchange heat via GSHP. There is no coolant , normally water with glycol goes as antifreeze.
जब आप उसको ट्राई करो तो उसमें यह चीज ध्यान रखना कि आप l 1.5 टन एसी की कॉलिंग के बराबर एक्सपेरिमेंट करना उसके लिए पता चल जाएगा तो 1.5 टन एक को चलाने में कितना खर्चा आता है महीने का यह सालाना और इसे लगाने से हमें क्या बेनिफिट होगा जो आप एक्सपेरिमेंट करोगे और उसकी कास्ट भी बताना
Sir it is a good concept,Saw this in some youtube video long ago,but this is going to create lot of maintenance issues depending on the coil material quality, installation process and manpower expertise. it is not as simple as "fit and forget" type. better is wind energy. but no Bharatiya entrepreneurs.
Mitti nikalne ke bad usake upper water harvesting system ka bhi upyog kiya jay to kaisa rahega.
Gi pipe is expensive can we use other pipes?
Humidity mein yeh kaisa perform karega yeh bataye
Simply burying the pipes in soil will cause ground water contamination with heavy metals, you should incorporate a mechanism of water percolation ( specifically rain water), in soil bypassing these pipes
Sir, Mera cold store ka kaam h jha muje 14-15 degree Celsius temperature chahiye hota h, kya hum is system ko hybrid way me bna skte h ? Jisme normal ac plus iss system ko add kr diya jaaye
Yes it is technically possible and very useful and cost effective.
Sir major city's mein aaj kal basement har koi banata hai construction kai time aur uski depth Approx 10 sai 15 ft tak hoti he hai toh Waha hum is system ko install kr sakte hai
Yes but there are various pipelines running underground in cities But it could be an option
When will the prototype video will come?
Please make the system fully with every component when if the system is a small one
Mòter or reditor jho chalaga woh bi toh electrcity lega.. ushe solar penal seh connect karo ..taki free elecrcity mil sake.. ishe loop ko chalane ke liye
Can we just use it as a heat exchanger for the already set vrv units or heat pumps
Much easy to use and provide additional cop number
yes you can. use tube in tube condensore to flow coolant in this tube in tube coil.
1/2 इंच एल्यूमीनियम पाइप जो pvc coated है 500 मीटर लंबा है मेरे पास क्या इसे उपयोग कर सकता हूं
*You can also take some advice from Sonam Wangchuk .....As he recently gave his concern about sustainable development 😊*
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Copper is conductor of heat so using it will give best results in heat load.Material used otherwise should be comparable to condictivity of copper.
Zameen k andar jo pipe hongey kia wo chotey janwar damage nhi katengey? Jesey choha nevla.
Can copper pipes be used instead of GI as the heat exchange would be better than GI. I am planning as well to setup a small prototype and hence request your response on this.
Copper is expensive plus would be less durable than GI
Copper gul jaiga zameen m copper ki life kum hai
The cost of these huge length of underground GI pipes (which will eventually rust anyway and need replacing) makes this type of cooling impractical in India (this system more useful in colder country). Better in our climate to use simple cooling tower with water on the roof, it will be circulated to a normal aircon that has water cooled radiator! Or if you have nearby pond you can use its water instead. Small pump won't consume much power overall you would save power on AC
I think we should use aluminium pipe and aluminium heatsink ( as we get in electronic dive) for faster and efficient exchange of heat.
Cost ka masla hoga na bhai.
Sar ji ice battery wala system bhi to banaa sakte hain power efficient bhaiya ser vo
Use copper tube for underground line with one small steel water tank, both are should be fixed underground. Standby water pump shall be run on required comfortable air.
Copper Pipe = Expensive
Try to deploy machine learning algorithms in the software of this proposed prototype so that efficiency of the overall system could be increased and cost issue will be resolved as well
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agar ye pipe boaring mai hi daal di jae to.. jis boaring se ham gaon mai pani nikalte hai.. esi mai do pipe in,out ka daal k bhi chal sakta hai.. paani se aur ziyada thandi hawa hogi..
aisa bhi system hota hai uss system ko open loop system bolte hai
Same Question hai,, boaring open loop me kitna success hai, 2nd water circulation se kitna bed effects pad sakta hai well ko. Continue kitna samay chal sakta hai, temperature rise hone se..¿…
Bad idea
@@lumencity mera matlab same Boaring se nhi tha jisse Pani ata hai..
Jis tarah se Apki video mai show hoa hai , JCB se ek Large area ko Dig kar fir usme Cable Dale..
Usse Better hai k.. Boaring kar k water level tak... Eska cost bhi bahut kam hota hai.. phir esmain Cable Dale to.. ? Deep to hoga hi,. Plus Water bhi hoga.. Double cooling,..
Mai abhi Bihar Mai hon.., Garmi mai Bhai sahab App Boaring k Pani se Naha k dekho,. Jab Pani body par padta hai to , bilkul ice ki tarah hota hai..
Cooling ka jawab nhi hoga.
itni depth se paani lene me jayada electricty consume hogi
Panjab mai ek kisan ne bnaya h ye new kothi bnayi h uske back pe 50feet niche tak lift size gadda bnaya h or purre ghar mai ac k vent de k niche se air ko ghar mai flow karta h
@ParamjeetSingh-cl5lc Where in Punjab? is there any contact information or can one visit him?
Aap kya us colant ke under hi air bubble flow karake uski efficient bada sakte ho kya .reply pls
Air Bubble? Sorry Samjha nai
@@lumencity matlab direct water mei sei hawako flow karake jaise hukka mei hota hai jo smoke hota hai woh waterke andar jakar fir upar ati hai usi tarah.
Aluminum beer can also be used
Can the coolant be placed vertically
What about humidity? Or do we need to keep it as cross ventilation.
this system will not affect the ambient humidity level.
Idea 💡 to bahut MST lga rhe ho successful ho jayega to bahut bra badlaw laa dijiyega aaap
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How do we calculate this cooling system as in ton/hp as we generally buy ac from the market…
And what is the price and electricity difference between this and a split ac..??
The Traditional 1Ton ac has a capacity of 18000 BTU but when it geothermal the capacity would depend upon various variables like underground pipe length + Radiator Size etc, but we would try and simplify the calculation based on amount of coolant which would be used in the system for which we actually need to built the system
Good work, earned a subscriber & viewer.🎉
I am Glad You liked our work
It's good way of cooling/heating...
I have used.
If you have used it how does it perform in Humid Environment
Sir I think we can use failed borewell holes if they are available nearby
But They would already have pipes in them, plus the surface area we need to cool down the coolant would not be sufficient and plus we have to create a loop of pipes one input and one output But I guess It can be done and tested 👍 Great Work
जी आई पाईप में रस्ट लग ही जाता है लॉन्ग टर्म के लिए कॉपर पाईप ही बेस्ट ऑप्शन है
I think ground water system is more efficient need two bore one for incomming and second for outgoing ground system work only for few hours after that soil will heat and efficiency go down
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Instead of underground earth, I think under ground water tank can also solve the same purpose.
Many of us already build an house and no extra land available to dig down these pipe.
May be it's not efficient as Earth and something is better than nothing.
Yes Its a Great Idea 💡
जरा ध्यान से सोचें व बताएँ और जिस प्रकार, मनुष्य के जीवन यापन के लिए अति आवश्यक हैं, उसी प्रकार जीवन की गुणवत्ता बनाए रखने के लिए भी महत्त्वपूर्ण हैं। लेकिन तौपीय प्रदूषण जब कारखानों तथा तापघरों से गर्म जल को बिना ठंडा किए ही नदियों तथा तालाबों में छोड़ दिया जाता है, यह विधि में भारत की अपेक्षा अन्य देशों में ज्यादा प्रयोग होता ह लेकिन gi पाइप की जगह एल्यूमिनियम पाइप का प्रयोग किया जाए यद्यपि विकास का एक उज्जवल भविष्य है।
(1)Coolant leakage ek badi problem hogi ground water polluted hoga .
(2)Agar earthquake Aya or underground pipeline block ho gyi to repair kese hogi
(3) Ghar shift krne pr sift nhi kr skte
Baaki sb to thik hee hoga
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Earth ka temp. 15 digri rahta. Accha plan hai yaar.
Thank you
1) humidity effect
2) दरवाजा मकान के बंद रखने पड़ेंगे like AC system यूज करते वक्त करना होता हे ?
लास्ट अच्छा initiative है ❤
Good luck bro looking forward to your 👍 from pak
Thanks 👍
AC type cooling ke liye 0 degree water zaroori he jo zameen se nahi milega..
This solution is more expensive than using small Water based house-hold coolers.
I will explain it in simple manner
To achieve 10 Ton of cooling capacity which is more than enough for a 200sq yard house you have to
Use a 6x10 ft hole with a depth of 15 ft [Better if it's below the water tank], Use copper pipes but GI pipes can also be used
You will have to use multiple radiators as a single large fan and radiator will look bad and also the noise will be super high for a home
There are some more things that can be done for a better system but I think you'll find them in your research.
split ac indoor unit is also available for water + coolant mix to get cooling from it. In india it is available from local manufacturer.
Dhari ka andrr temperature garmi mey kitna hota hai
Saal bhar apko constant temperature milega 4 meter gahrai me 24 degree approx
Can it be worth for UG mining
bhai jitna lamba tubing karoge utna jyada liquid friction hoga. Jiske waja se pumping me motor power jyada lagea. Moto energy saving ka fullfill kaha hua phir ??????
That is a new Point we have not thought about it will do a research on it as well and would share details in upcoming Videos
Wish you good luck
Long life pipe material is important
एक कमरा को ठंड करने के लिए,A C से निकलने वाली Heat चार घरों को गर्म कर देता है।। इस वजह से गर्मी के दिनों मे अत्यधिक गर्मी बड़ गई है।।
होना ये, चाहिए कि आप वातावरण में गर्मी ना फैलाए।।
जमीन में जो पाइप दबाया जा रहा है वह होरिजेंटल है क्या उसे वर्टिकल किया जा सकता है कम घर छोटे घर वालों के बहुत कम से कम जगह होता है इसे 50 100 फीट नीचे बड़ा कुआं की तरह गड्डा करके और उसमें पाइप को लपेटकर सिलेंडर के फॉर्म में ऊपर लाया जा सकता है?
yes vertically bhi pipe install kiya jaa sakta hai
A 5 TR cooling tower will be far cheaper in India in both installation cost and operating cost, and will provide more cooling.
But for the first timers it would be useful!
Sir mujhe collage project ke liye geothermal ac cooling system model tayar karna hai to isme kya components use honge sir please reply
Aur ye project small size me bananeke liye please guide kare
Jo bhi component hai sab video me details me bataya hai
Will cost a lot,
simply one can install 10 12 feet underground metal pipe with one opening at outside 12 15 feet far from the house,
one opening at inside the house with exhaust fan for air suction through the pipe,
this should work upto some extent
It would Not be much helpful due to following reasons
1) Outside air would be very Hot or cold depending upon the outside temperature and a 10-12 Ft pipe would not make much difference to the temperature of the air
2) The specific Heat capacity of air is much lower than water
3) It would cause lots of maintenance issues with blocked pipes and dusk getting into your home
@@lumencity i think my idea is good only for underground bunkers for ventilation 😂👍
Very good idea
Sir pipe cold ko carry nahi karta. Sirf heat carry hoti hai. Cold is absence of heat. It is not a physical entity.
True
this was Egyptian techniques, have heard somewhere long ago
I think 10 to 15 degree change hi hoga to ye to direct and indirect 2 stage evaporative cooling jesa hi huva, fir to ye cost effective nahi hai, just for cooling purpose, isski jagah first stage pe evaporative cooling se Pani ko thanda Karo Bahar aur motor se us thanda pani ko room ke rediator se jodo aur cool karo
bakwas. better idea geothermal hi hai. bas land honi chahiye ya govt water pipeline se bhi do join lekar us se cooling le sakte hai ya phir windows ac ki out side unit room ke bahar karke uski heating coil condensore ko water tape se cool karke electricity bacha sakte hai.
Kindly add water tank over the GI pipes just like underground water tank
I did not Understand your Point 😬 please elaborate
@@lumencity to store cool water
agar jameenn me temp ka farak to sirf 1-2 degrees hi hoga thenn how. can someonne can achieve 10-5 degreed deffernce inside ac area
simple example , in hot weather we get cold ground water because of latent heat transfer, in cold weather we get hot ground water. next time please check temp difference, thanks
Great
Excited to see output
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During monsoon season, GI pipes can rapidly corrode.
ok
@@lumencity To prevent corrosion, some plastic cover over GI pipes is good. Flipside is, covering GI pipes with plastics reduces thermal conductivity.
Make pipeline under the garden area
GI coated w/zinc provides increased resistance but is not going to be corrosion proof over a considerable period of time.
The way our properties are structured, majority of installation will have something on the ground level (above the pipes - mostly landscaped gardens etc.
Ppl will be vary of investing or become party to such a venture if there is even an iota of a chance that the GI structure may fail and that the whole thing may have to be uprooted. This may lead to a lot of destruction of say landscaped gardens etc.
Chance of coolant leaking into the ground may just put off many normal right minded people.
GI systems (especially joints) are not a particularly attractive option when it comes to their pressure handling capabilities.
At some level a no leak guarantee will not be a landmine that can be sidestepped. This is where a PEX installation will prove invaluable. 0 leaks underground can be guaranteed if the the installer is even moderately trained.
GI will require above par (=₹₹₹) installers.
I can understand the bit about reduced load transfer capability of PEX but that has to be properly quantified and then compared to the challenges that a GI system will pose.
Great advice Thank You 👍
It will be economical and ,eco friendly but not as cool as AC .specially less effective near sea shore
Sir I have some ideas for making it better can I talk with you?
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Please update here also, so it will helpful to others as well . Thanks 😂
up front is ki cost jyada hogi or agar reedier ki kya jrurat hai kiyo ki cooling or heating ka kaam to earth se krna hai na
to extract the cooling and heating radiator is a must 👍
@@lumencity then again apply compressor also to increase efficiency of system because earth temp is going to be same na using that you may decrease electricity consumption
@@sayal433 compressor ki body ka tempreture aur outdoor unit ki jagah tube in tube condensor laga kar lectricity ka load ghataya ja sakta hai aur agar ice battery bhi saath mein bana di jaaye to pura ghar kam kam kharch mein ho jaayega
compressor ki body ko agar copper pipe se covered kiya jaaye aur waha bhi geothermal ka coolant chalaya jaaye to ac electricity kam lega
What will be the cost of radiator / heat exchangers?
we have to check 👍
@@lumencity do not use radiator, use indoor ac unit aur ise geothermal ke coolant water se connect kar de yeh bilkul sahi kaam karti hai aur agar effeciency nahi mile to water coolant se chalne waale alag se split indoor unit aati hai jo faridabad , noida ki companiya bhi bana rahi hai
क्या आप जानते हैं कि भारत के आधे से अधिक प्राकृतिक वन लगभग खत्म हो चुके हैं? एक-तिहाई जलमग्न भूमि (wetland) सूख चुकी है. 70 प्रतिशत धरातलीय जल क्षेत्र (water bodies) प्रदूषित हैं, 40 प्रतिशत मैंग्रोव क्षेत्र लुप्त हो चुका है और जंगली जानवरों के शिकार और व्यापार तथा वाणिज्य की दृष्टि से कीमती पेड़-पौधों की कटाई के कारण हजारों वनस्पति और वन्य जीव जातियाँ लुप्त होने के कगार पर पहुँच गई हैं।
Prithvi par 5 baar se upar Maha sarvanash ho chukaa hai aur fir se puri prithvi par 5 baar jeevan puraa fail chuka hai.
To ye part of process hai . Manav ka bhi anta hogaa gar manav prithivi chodkar baaki graho par naa basaa toi
Coolant is costly.. good coolant is around 500 per litre.. it means 20k 30k would be spent in coolant and labour and GI pipe and motor electricity power consumption and radiator fan power consumption would be too costly and this system will replace only 2ton AC max..
we are doing deep research on that, and would showcase our prototype in our upcoming videos.
Sir, this is the ocean tech.