The Oregon Trail Electronic Handheld Game!
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- Опубліковано 4 бер 2018
- Classic edutainment game The Oregon Trail goes portable for 2018! A review covering the design, gameplay, and features of this handheld dysentery simulator from The Bridge Direct and Target.
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Using dysentery as a tagline......truly, this is a marvelous age we live in.
And for the card game at least it's a little on the nose. (given the card game is a pile of sh!t)
I love that lol!
Can't wait to die and write eat shit on my tombstone like back in the day
"You died of Corona virus" could be the tagline for 2020...
2020: "yeah, you don't say"
"Duke has died."
*Damn.*
ﾠKawa He doesn't actually die, his Ego got to 0
Those alien bastard is gonna pay for shooting up my ride! oops wrong duke
It's time to kick ass and homage other movies.
"I'm not lookin' good!"
Zayaan Nashrid but i ran out of movies?
You see a man on the side of the road. You pull over and ask his name. “Terry,” he says. You start laughing. “That’s a girl’s name!” He pulls out a gun and shoots you. You have died of dissin’ Terry.
fug
Ariela Wenner So you’re saying I should make like a tree?
I guess we should leave it at that.
SIIIIIGH
...and get out of here!
I can imagine LGR begrudgingly walking around Target, complete with red shirt and beige pants.
Frazzle Face why? Is there a point?
I grew up in Independence, MO and fondly remember playing a version of The Oregon Trail that they had installed on all the computers in my elementary school's computer lab. I at first thought it was cool that the game knew where we were. Then came the part of history class where we learned about the Oregon Trail, and the game suddenly made a lot more sense to me. I might want to pick one of these up just for nostalgia's sake.
isbragg for your independence
imagine starting up a game of the oregon trail and instead of a blocky, clunky independence missouri from 200 years ago you’re met with your house
I'd be down for a handheld Carmen Sandiego!
Right? This thing would be awesome for just all of my dostalgia.
There's a pretty good fan-made, mobile version called Sandiego Inc. on Apple and Android. I know, not a dedicated handheld like this, but apart from an ad at the start of a case it looks and feels a lot like the old Apple II version.
I played the crap out of Where in Time is Carmen Sandiego for MS-DOS when I was a kid. Great game!
♫ ♬Who in the world, fondled Carmen SanDiego?♩ ♪ ♫...
With the full song + an hidden song ua-cam.com/video/kEk6uSR4JQI/v-deo.html
3rd grade me absolutely would shit their pants over this thing.
But it would have been dysentery. And I wouldn't exist now.
Dysentery ALWAYS got me...lol
Ecological implications aside, I'm fascinated by the idea that a bunch of unique pieces of hardware could come out over time loaded with one or more retro games. They've found the right mix of nostalgia, collectibility, and online marketing to make it happen. It's interesting to see physical hardware specifically designed with one or two games in mind.
The blob doesn't cover a chip, it covers a bare die which has gold wires connecting it to the PCB directly. It saves a few pennies per board because they don't have to put the die in a chip and then solder that. It only pays to do that when you're making a lot of the same board.
Almost like tech from the Alien universe. Blocky high tech gadgets with large buttons that look dated, yet futuristic. Can't say I'd like to own one, but it looks cool!
Iron Drapes
Yeah, you'd have to be pretty big fan of dysentery to want to put this on your coffee table.
Yeah like it came from the movie alien
Retrofuturism
I have to say my favorite example of Alien universe Tech is the Cybiko and Cybiko Xtreme, it looks so geeky with lots of small buttons even if its horribly outdated.
more info:
cultureandcommunication.org/deadmedia/index.php/Cybiko
video (ashens)ua-cam.com/video/ojatBoMZubk/v-deo.html
Jack Kraken Cybiko looks fascinating, but I have to say that it doesn't really remind me of tech from the Alien universe. Alien universe tech is blocky but with soft edges. Cybiko is curvy and the buttons are oval. It has a distinctly 90's and 00's style that doesn't match the unique 80's retrofuturistic design. It's so hard to describe, but the best example would be Sid Meyer's work.
As of 2019, it's changed, as I saw them at a Walmart.
What did it change into? Optimus Prime?
I am so happy we've reached this point in life where its possible to make such tiny emulatable games :D
this is honestly better than flying cars
"What do you want on your tombstone?"
"peperony and chease"
LMAOOO
Thanks for enlightening me to this beautiful fact about the card game that I never would have thought to notice LOL
I FOUND THE STARKIDS
Shannon Ravenclaw yes
"Tombstone" is a helluva name for a frozen pizza
The LGR Let's Play of Organ Trail will always be my definitive edition of the game.
"Nobody has died." Poor Nobody. :(
It's crazy how a game I used to play on a huge honk of a computer can now be played in my hands. And yes I know there are even smaller handhelds with the same processing power and even more, it's just so weird to see something I had to go to a library to play can now fit in the palm of my hand in half a lifetime.
You have such a soothing voice.. Please consider doing podcasts. I'd listen to every single one.
NOBODY has died.
Oh nooo...
"Oh nooooo!"
Oh noooooo
That's great news!
God help us all.
I told my mother about the card game and she bought it to play with her summer school kids when they were learning about the pioneers. Thanks LGR for making the experience a lot more fun
This vintage design is so cool. I loved this!
But, can it run Doom?
Matias Naranja everything is possible
It can run the Doom that was released in 2016, but oddly can't run the one released in the 90s.
You stole my reply...
Brutal DOOM Handheld
Imagine playing Doom with that D-Pad
I need this tiny nostalgia machine. It makes me way too happy that you press a floppy disk to turn it on oh man
I thought that was cute too.
I have a little brother who really wants to play The Oregon Trail, and his birthday's coming up. I might get this for him. Thanks LGR.
Omg! My girlfriend and I are watching through your old videos while also watching new releases as they come out, to catch up. And the last video we watched just happened to be your Oregon Trail review from your edutainment series! What a coincidence! Keep up the good work, we both love your videos!
Thank you!
I remember a copy of Oregon Trail I (the MECC version) came as a freebie with our very first C64C back at the end of 1987. My favorite version was Oregon Trail II for the PC (whichever version of Windows it was at the time), which I got into because my kids were playing it at school. I loved having the choice of 4 different destinations in OT2! I usually played as a pharmacist for the medicinal plants expertise, which also gave my party a better chance of finding edible plants along the route.
Just perfect for my early evening dump. Thanks!
what you mean with evening dump
Tmi
I like it u guys suck
GP is actually a legitimate brand of batteries, although the ones in this are probably the cheapest ones they make.
Yes, they are legitimate but they are a cheapo brand, their batteries don't last as long as more expensive brands but work well if you are on a budget.
What does GP stand for?
@@puppiesarepower3682 Is Google broken?
I'm guessing Target is the place to go for Oregon Trail since the game was created in Minnesota and Target is headquartered there. My cousin was a programmer for the port to Apple IIe (among other systems)
Here's a video of him and other members of the team talking about making the game vimeo.com/7203294 . One of them brought a piece of paper where they mapped out the game's memory for the Apple IIe.
Jeff Klawiter I'm in Minnesota and our still successful Target closed a few weeks ago.
interesting, so far the one I go to seems to be doing well. It's just blocks away from Best Buy headquarters. I think it does well because the closest Walmart is one of the dirtiest/smelliest I have ever seen.
Target actually has a bunch of nostalgia products
I thought this was a joke leading into "because you're more likely to get dysentery there" or something like that. :P
The number is the UL code of the circuit board manufacturer, just the PCB.
The main chip is probably a
I found the microcontroller name, but unfortunately I can't tell you because I died of dysentery.
(Also ghost can write comment on youtube)
Yea did you notice those SO8 chips? I would expect at least one of them to be an I2C Flash or EEPROM. Hey LGR could please you post a better still photo of the board so we can see part numbers?
So the price is only just a little bit inflated, custom plastic, custom game, packaging etc. I suspect that Target put its d**k init and made it 10$ or there about more expensive.
But, did you notice the antiquated GP batteries? This thing is at least 5 years old.
The blob on the left looks like a VT3 or up (VT18 or whatever they old stock they got their hands on), which holds all the main system-components except the game data (including code of course), so I guess the blob on the right is just the ROM ? Specs-wise it looks like the game is merely VT3, perhaps it's a C64 code-port with DOS graphics conversion ?
@@1310up Ghost doesn't have hands...
As somebody else said here, the E156176 thing is just the UL code, AFAIK.
I would also highly suspect this is just a NOAC, or even more likely the same type of "Atari on a chip" from the Flashback and Tiny Arcade Centipede.
It looks like it does store the code in a separate SPI EEPROM, but then a lot of times when you see a second smaller epoxy blob, it's a Mask ROM die for the main code.
Still, if one of those 8-pin chips is a large enough EEPROM, then it might be easily hackable.
(the smaller epoxy blob could just be the LCD controller.)
That's it - I need to buy a Tiny Arcade. Now look what you've done, Clint. :p
Ahh yep (zoomed in on PC monitor now) - the 25Q80 chip (above the cap) is an 8Mbit (1 MByte) SPI Flash.
I'm sure that will store the main ROM code.
If you have an EPROM reader, it would be interesting to see what format the ROMs are in.
They are probably just the raw cart ROM images for the Atari tbh.
btw, there are some simple hacks for some of the Tiny Arcades that let you switch between 4 or so different games too, so there's a slight possibility there are some other games on the Oregon Trail game as well.
ElectronAsh That's exactly what I was thinking...
The E number is definitely the UL number for the PCB. A quick search says the PCB was made by "Goldwan Electronic LTD" of Hong Kong.
There's also GOACs or Genesis/Megadrive on a chip.
I live in Oregon's Willamette Valley and grew up playing this game. Fun to watch this!
I have some GP rechargable batteries, they've last longer than my sony eneloops and duracells, so they're not the worst batteries out there.
Amazing how far we've come that entire handheld TFT backlit games can be had so cheap now.
Geez, for a game that is all about taking a trip it finally has the ability to take it on a trip! Makes you wonder how many trips in game you could make well taking that same route in real life?
I dont know but its alot.
I had two runs doing a road trip from Washington DC to NYC
If this board is anything like the mini arcades, shorting the J1 (or maybe C9) contacts with a screwdriver and turning it on might reveal more games. It would be really interesting to see.
don’t mind me, just playing pac-man on an oregon trail handheld
My brother has this and he absolutely loves it, glad to see you picked it up
I hope that Age of Mythology in the background means a video is coming up on that! One of my favorite child/teenhood games.
Voorhees3388 never played it till one of my friends gifted it to me on Steam to play together.
Really fun from time to time.
Also holy crap thats a Nepnep.
"NOBODY has died"
I died
Brings back memories of playing this in computer class.
That's almost the exact version they had in my school for "educational" purposes. So many good memory's and honestly this looks like a decent handheld.
I wonder if that chip also contains multiple games like in the ones 8-bit guy has.
You should cover the oft-forgotten sequel to the Oregon Trail, Yukon Trail. That is the one I grew up with and I remember playing it a lot. As a small child it was the only computer game at my grandparents' house and the only thing to do there besides those metal ring puzzles
Should have come with multiplayer feature and cable. I wanna trade my 400 pounds of meat with my friends' 10 sets of clothing.
Great review, very thorough. I plan on heading up to Target tomorrow. Mark
As much as I stream this game, its nice that you made it to Oregon on my birthday. Thank you!
"I'm going to Target, need anything?"
Be really interesting if this were a NES on a Chip situation. Lots of those coming out recently which is frankly kind of weird. In particular recent releases of Ms. Pac-Man are NOAC based even though versions much closer to the arcade game have existed for years now in a Plug and Play form.
I imagine it's because NOACs have reached an economy of scale. If they're cheap and plentiful, people are going to try and use them for as much as they can.
Does that mean this is an NES version of Oregon Trail?
Not necessarily.
If it is (more or less), I wonder if the ROM code can be coaxed into working with FCEUX.
This is way way way beyond the NES's capabilties.
This is so cool, and I'm really glad you mentioned the card game otherwise I would have had no idea it even existed, definitely gonna pick it up. Thank you!
GP are really quality batteries, alot of photographers (including me) use them in their flashes, so actually pretty good to be included!
@LGR Hey, as Duke Nukem 3D fan: you should check the upcoming 3D Realms game called Ion Maiden!
Wait what? [Googles] OH HELL TO THE MAXIMUM YES!
this video makes for a good viewing while i sit on this good resting place near the river bank.
Piece of wood
Nostalgic vibes with a dose of hilarity at its finest! Awesome upload brother Clint! 👍👍🔥
I have one of these coming to me. Awesome review! Thanks for making this video.
One additional interesting thing is, the Chinese texts on the board are actually the color of the cable being soldered on. Well, it kinda feels like the board was probably made for educational purpose originally.
I enjoyed checking out your little thingy.
I don't know how he got away with it!
Got mine today for 1/2 off at Target and can't wait to try it! Great video! A Carmen Sandiego one would be awesome!
I picked up one of these, we are passing it around work to see who can get the highest score. Great memories with this.
Holy shit, you actually pronounced "Willamette" correctly! I am genuinely impressed!
Yeah, when I moved to Portland, it took me a little while to get it right. XD
Willa-meaty
I was so stunned, I had to stop the video to recollect myself.
Lols. If he gets La Jolla California and Puyallup Washington right he's got like a west coast bingo.
He probably watches Rick & Morty.
Yeah! I'm glad you grabbed one.
Glad they stocked so many of them, there were probably fifteen at just one nearby store!
Why only Target?? we had them in Canada several years ago, and then they pulled out :(
Brian's Man Cave yeah Target didn't really last very long here, huh?
Suspicious Spaghetti.. ya and when we did him them, they were basically a red coloured Wal Mart!
In the states, Target is generally considered "high end" Walmart. They tend to be cleaner and nicer, but pricer
I just got this for my birthday! It’s GLORIOUS!!!
Ooh, this is rad as hell! I'll definitely be on the lookout for one of these.
They misspelled "Fort Kearny." It's spelled in-game the way the city of Kearney is, but it's actually spelled "Kearny."
Yet another random fact that probably only I care about.
I love your stuff
That re-use of electronic parts is the most interesting tid-bit about this hand held to me.
Oh my god, thank you for covering this thing! I saw it all over Reddit and all I wanted to know is what does it look like actually being played!
Very nice
I am still yet to play the oregon trail. If they sold these in England I would be all over it like a rash. Or even better, if it got released as freeware. One can only dream.
Same here. It's a shame we never had this game in schools... but I did get to play Zoombinis a lot in school so I can't complain!
I remember playing Zoombinis a load as a kid, but never played it at school and never owned it myself. I have no idea where I played it but it was freaking awesome!!
Naughty Moose i played it at school too :) life in the U.K as a kid was pretty good. i also played gregory and the hot air balloon.
You can play the 1990 ms dos version online for free classicreload.com/oregon-trail.html
+Stoned Savage I just checked out some gameplay footage of Gregory and the hot air balloon and it looks like Day of the Tentacle mixed with Sesame Street Letters on the CD-i. I shall make a note of this game in my filofax! ;)
+facefister69 Thanks!
It looks good for sure, thanks for showing us.
Man, this thing brings back some memories.
They already are collectibles. You should checkout the Bridge Mini Arcade Fan Club group on FB. Normally someone gets the info on these things before they're announced and shares it with the rest of us. Cool stuff.
I bought the card game for my boyfriend a couple years ago. When we play, it usually ends up that one of us dies almost immediately and then helps the other until they die, too. It's hard to get to the end.
Did You? And was it dysentery?
Classic game, really a fun port and always enjoyed the hunting, Glad you made it safely to the Willamette Valley! Home sweet home and home of the Ducks, Track town USA.
The highlight of my school week was when we had computer day. I couldn’t wait to sit and play this. Good times!
They were going for the classic mac look :p
GP batteries aren't in any way cheap...www.rapidonline.com/zinc-chloride-cell-aaa-battery-18-1050 it's just that those batteries are antiques, they are discontinued as far as i know.
Zinc chloride batteries just as a technology are extremely low capacity compared to normal alkaline cells-- easily less than half to a third as much. The main reason that they are reviled, though, is that the zinc casings that form the anode actually get eaten away as the cell discharges, as well as over time, and are extremely prone to leaking and corroding the battery contacts in devices if they are left in the device for too long.
This is what I asked for Christmas!! Love this thing!
Apple2 for life. Number Munchers, Oregon Trail, Odell Lake...the most fun I ever had learning.
I'd guess that they are using a single channel for directional input, so they had to add diagonal buttons, as you couldn't hit down AND right to go diagonal. It was probably cheaper to do that than to re-architect their generic PCB for multiple channels.
You can also play Organ Trail at the Sauna. I've heard.
great video as always. thank you
My favorite school computer game. I remember buying all the updated versions. Didn't know about this one. Have to get one.
someone gonna mod this to play doom soon or later
you removed the screen protector right?
I got one of these for Christmas and I don’t regret.
Portable Carmen Sandiego would be amazing!!! Thanks for all the amazing videos Clint! Got a 486 because of you hahah
I want one whit Duke Nukem or DOOM!
Vic Green there's been many hand held dooms
There probably is a dukenukem 3d one
Yes i love whit duke nukem but the 3d version was better
Looks like it's an 8bit system.. duke nukem 1 was ported to the sega master system!
Doom for GBA is great
Portable DOS gaming? Get yourself a 3DS, install custom firmware, and then run DosBox on it!
I'd watch a video of someone even just trying to do this...
no joke i have never disliked even one of LGR's videos mainly i like the vid way before it ends to be honest lol
Nifty little toy. Now I have an excuse to go to Target now. Thanks for letting us know, Clint!
And...thanks for pronouncing "Willamette" correctly.👍
"Do not use rechargeable batteries."
Well that settles it then... I'm sick of regular batteries so there's no way I'd buy this [without putting rechargeable batteries in there].
+mipmipmipmipmip Maybe a stupid question, but rechargeables come in Volt ranges completely similar to regulars, eg. 1.4V. Is there a difference in how they discharge?
It'll most likely work, yes. But rechargeable batteries often cut off at a different point when almost out, and they do usually give 1.2V instead of 1.5V so not all things in the deice may strictly be running within the expected tolerances, both of which may confuse the device if it's trying to calculate the battery level.
This is most likely why there's a warning in the manual at 2:48.
Yes, this page explain a lot of the differences: michaelbluejay.com/batteries/rechargeable.html
+Henrik Danielsson Cool, thanks! I really never heard about that!
They always write this warning on things. It never matters.
100 years of Pressman this year :)
well... that was something i wasn't expecting at all!!! amazing video as always clint too bad its only a target release would have love to see something like that here in south america
But can it run Crisis?
Hmm, could it Time Crisis?
Tom Baker: "Who nose? Who knows?"
I wonder if the machine is a little DOS machine...
Phillip Rhoades That would be really cool! Although to run DOS it would need to have an x86 chip which would be quite unlikely. That's my main regret about DOS - that it can't be used for embedded systems.
Couldn't you theoretically build a DOS machine via fpga?
Gfx look like the DOS version...
atariage.com/forums/topic/276069-ot-oregon-trail-handheld-target-store-exclusive/#entry3975022
Nope, you don't. github.com/litchie/dospad
I LOVE these types of handhelds!
I need this in my life. Probably heading out tomorrow to get one.
Looks like the resolution/scaling is a little bit off, giving that weird look on some edges were some pixels are larger than others. They could've at least bothered to make the game run at the screens native resolution
Yeah, I'm extremely sensitive to font details and the incredibly awkward scaling makes me nervous... Another thing that freaked me out was how selected text in the "name select" was doubled in size. It's most noticeable with the DONE and DELETE options. Normally, these types of games handle this situation with bold or different colored text. Eluding for those odd design choices, the graphics look pretty good for a $20 hand-held machine.
This looks cool, but the screen is too small. This looks like a game boy clone with awkward buttons.
Yeah if the screen was as big as the darker gray bezel around it, I would buy this right now. But as is, it looks like eye strain incarnate.
Watched this and immediately went to my local Target and bought this!. Even got it on sale for $12.79+tx which is definitely a good deal.
I got the Mattel electronics soccer for 50 cents at a sale (fresh in package)