My first flight on the DC2 (C46) was from Houston Tx to Corpus Christi Tx in 1945. My cousin was a stewardess for Pioneer airlines and took me on the flight. I still remember it as a wonderful experience. Have flown quite a lot since then, but no flight has left the memories that one did 72 years ago.
Huh???? DC-2 was NOT a C-46. Douglas Vs Curtis, apples and oranges. In the mid eighties I flew into Haiti, total shit hole BUT Trinidad and Tobago Airlines had many Dc-3's (C-47) and C-46's on the ramp for me to gaze at. Our Navy C-9B VR- 56 looked like something out of Star Wars by comparison. I drank the water and after I realized what I did commenced spitting all over the airport deck.
Despite any technicalities & continuity issues with various footage, the essence of the story is still clear enough.. it was paying tribute to a lost vintage aircraft run, with the loss of lives. Respect & condolences across the board for anyone who partook in such lifeline efforts, be it for profit, compassion, necessity or just the shear enthusiasm one may have gotten in return doing those hectic flights. These white-knuckle runs were much depended-on no matter how the story gets told. I guess the STOL Bombardier DASH series & their smaller variations have managed to safely make these very difficult landing strips a bit more doable since.. Thanks anyway for the post - Many of us would not have known about this otherwise! Ahh, UA-cam.. ^_^
If the nose pitched up, the elevator boost actuator may have failed or the linkage to it became disconnected. The last USAF C-46s were assigned to Howard AFB,CZ, Panama. They were removed from Air Force inventory after a fatal crash on take-off at Howard in 1967 that killed all the crew in similar circumstances that you mentioned in your story. The elevator boost cylinder linkage became disconnected due to a missing cotter pin in the attaching bolt/nut.
There is no sound in the world like that of two rotary engines slightly out of sync - that warble is the best music ever! To bad we don't see them any more today.
Why did the C-46 pitch up and nose over on final? Did the pilot get too slow and stall her? I would be very curious to find out. Was the accident even investigated? Thanks
i was in Bolivia in 2013 and we were at a small restaurant in corioco not far from Lapaz and in the middle of the place sunken half way into the floor was an old radial Eng and i always wondered why it was there ? now i know.
Never trust a flight or ground crew from a small outfit out of Central or South America, or Africa, they never know what the fuck they’re doing. It’s where great planes go to crash.
Just bought the Kindle book. It was a B17 reconverted into cargo plane that Hans came across in his hunt for DC3's / Dakotas. Straight after the war, with the shortage of commercial aircraft, many bombers like the Lancaster and the B17's were converted into passenger planes, cargo planes, crop dusters, until the manufacturers could resume their 1939 commercial designs.
I was going to comment that although he was referring to C-46, that definitely wasn’t a C-46 tail. And I don’t care much for the title cards instead of a narration either, but at least it’s better than the dreaded Robo voice narrations!
I`m assuming the video`s description is meant to say that the last BOLIVIAN C-46 flight has taken place, not the last C-46 in existence, since Buffalo Airways, in Northern Canada, still has a couple of them in service. (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buffalo_Airways)
such a beautiful airplane too bad they could not take care of it, or even appreciate it. I live in Mexico, and they just cut up two DC-3's here, and a DC-6 last year for the scrap metal. They were nearly intact. They kept them hidden from the public. Stupid Military. over the last 6 years there have been 5 fatal aircraft accidents due to running out of fuel mostly. They even dumped a brand new helicopter into the ocean after running it low on fuel during a sightseeing trip for a dignitary. It was supposed to be a rescue helicopter, given to them by the US, but they just used it to screw around with. People in latin countries seem to have zero appreciation of historical artifacts, or aircraft. Or even their own lives.. Sad.
Woah, good story brother. Viva gaujiros!! Gauchos they say there in s.a. Loosely translated: cowboy. Depending on where you're from: Cuba: mountain cowboy, perhaps musician, Perhaps farmer, maybe a gunhand...lol. A guy who knows how to: Perform useful work, and survive...in usually hot, humid, rough and beautiful terrain. Salt of the earth kinda folk. Santiago de Cuba
Everything has a life span and once the thing or being gets old.One should leave it alone.Unfortunately a lot people don't understand that.The result is destruction!
A sad end to a reliable old aircraft, Latin America is noted for flying such aircraft,especially DC3's until they are no longer flyable, I admire the guts of the aircrews who fly these ancient aircraft I often wonder how and who actually maintains them, IF they are maintained even. Thanks for an interesting film,I happen to be a Speed Reader,as I only managed to catch a snatch view of the aircraft before the titles expired,needs a little more adjustment and it'll be easier to watch.
C-46 "reliable"? As a kid these made me cringe watching them make multiable runs at V2 and turning back for another run at it. And that was on the concrete runways at North Philadelphia Airport
Remember Raymond, in the days of DC3's, C46's and similar' twins' Flying Machines were Babies. that is, they'd only recently left the single engine mode and lots were needed to learn, even to as late as 1950, look at the very first Jet Aircraft,the De Havilland Comet 2,itblew apart due to airframe stress problems. Much has been learnt since those days,although looking at the Airbus's recent history, there;s STILL much to be learned.it's called Progress.
Its a testament to what "made in the USA" use to actually mean. It meant a product that was engineered by the best, manufactured by the best and would last a really long time. Nowadays you can not find that anymore because it no longer exists. The misguided consumer buys crap made in china that lasts 3 months then breaks. Its not worth fixing so they just buy another.
Great old bird. We flew the Commando south into Mexico from McAllen, Texas smuggling electronics. My book is on Amazon. Over & Back by Wild Bill Callahan.
Eliah northmex .....Eliah....glad you weren't as mean as Sir Tristen. Yeah, few people know about the smuggling that went from north to south. Sign me: "Self Promoting Pompous Ass Jerk." That Tristen has a great way with words.
20,000+ feet altitude, un-pressurized cabin & passing a plastic oxygen mask like a water pipe??? AND Hallucinating from such??? I think you must have been on a water pipe. C'mon...The reality of acute hypoxia combined with the other claimed conditions fail to agree with the information you suggest as fact.
CripT'Nyte MadMan when you want to see some really sad, near misses, look no further than COLUMBIA they have some real winners in that country, picture this an old SUD CARVELLE, REALLY LOADED, USING A DIRT STRIP !, there all on you tube.
PW R-2800's make ANYTHING sound good! 4 of them on our old C-118-B's but they leaked like a sieve. As long as it was leaking you still had oil in it! 38 gallon capacity EACH if I remember correctly.
My first flight on the DC2 (C46) was from Houston Tx to Corpus Christi Tx in 1945. My cousin was a stewardess for Pioneer airlines and took me on the flight. I still remember it as a wonderful experience. Have flown quite a lot since then, but no flight has left the memories that one did 72 years ago.
Huh???? DC-2 was NOT a C-46. Douglas Vs Curtis, apples and oranges.
In the mid eighties I flew into Haiti, total shit hole BUT Trinidad and Tobago Airlines had many Dc-3's (C-47) and C-46's on the ramp for me to gaze at.
Our Navy C-9B VR- 56 looked like something out of Star Wars by comparison. I drank the water and after I realized what I did commenced spitting all over the airport deck.
Despite any technicalities & continuity issues with various footage, the essence of the story is still clear enough.. it was paying tribute to a lost vintage aircraft run, with the loss of lives. Respect & condolences across the board for anyone who partook in such lifeline efforts, be it for profit, compassion, necessity or just the shear enthusiasm one may have gotten in return doing those hectic flights. These white-knuckle runs were much depended-on no matter how the story gets told. I guess the STOL Bombardier DASH series & their smaller variations have managed to safely make these very difficult landing strips a bit more doable since.. Thanks anyway for the post - Many of us would not have known about this otherwise! Ahh, UA-cam.. ^_^
If the nose pitched up, the elevator boost actuator may have failed or the linkage to it became disconnected. The last USAF C-46s were assigned to Howard AFB,CZ, Panama. They were removed from Air Force inventory after a fatal crash on take-off at Howard in 1967 that killed all the crew in similar circumstances that you mentioned in your story. The elevator boost cylinder linkage became disconnected due to a missing cotter pin in the attaching bolt/nut.
There is no sound in the world like that of two rotary engines slightly out of sync - that warble is the best music ever! To bad we don't see them any more today.
RADIAL, not rotary, big difference and they don't have the same sound.
Nice video Hans, but sad to hear that we've lost another rare plane.
SO SAD MAY GOD BLESS THE CREW !
I flew on one of those in 1955. At Wright Field. The Air Force Museum is there now. I was 16 .
My first airline job was flying the Commando in Alaska
Love that burd
cant beat the sound of the PW radials. music.
Emmmkkiiiijimnrel deee
Loved the sound it make!..
Why did the C-46 pitch up and nose over on final? Did the pilot get too slow and stall her? I would be very curious to find out. Was the accident even investigated? Thanks
Thanx....I love the C-46 a mighty fine looking aircraft!!!
It was a screamer, solid bird. There were a hand full of them in 'Nam by 'Air America', my last ride in one from the central high-lands to Saigon.
i was in Bolivia in 2013 and we were at a small restaurant in corioco not far from Lapaz and in the middle of the place sunken half way into the floor was an old radial Eng and i always wondered why it was there ? now i know.
Nice story, but the burn out at 3:00 is a 4 engines B-17
What caused the pitch up?
Never trust a flight or ground crew from a small outfit out of Central or South America, or Africa, they never know what the fuck they’re doing. It’s where great planes go to crash.
Why was the 2nd-to-last picture a burnt-out B-17?
The four engines and the Boeing-style tail-configuration sure points in that direction.
Just bought the Kindle book. It was a B17 reconverted into cargo plane that Hans came across in his hunt for DC3's / Dakotas. Straight after the war, with the shortage of commercial aircraft, many bombers like the Lancaster and the B17's were converted into passenger planes, cargo planes, crop dusters, until the manufacturers could resume their 1939 commercial designs.
Frigorificos Reyes used a couple of B17's as meat freighters. Google B17 CP-891 for more pictures.
Yep...a B-17 at the end with the other four engine burned out bird being a DC-7. smh
I was going to comment that although he was referring to C-46, that definitely wasn’t a C-46 tail. And I don’t care much for the title cards instead of a narration either, but at least it’s better than the dreaded Robo voice narrations!
Aviation was exciting back then, a new 'frontier"... it still is.
Waar komt dat shot van die Convair vandaan....?
So sad for the crew and such a loss of a one of a kind aircraft
loved flying the c46 have 9k hours in them.
I`m assuming the video`s description is meant to say that the last BOLIVIAN C-46 flight has taken place, not the last C-46 in existence, since Buffalo Airways, in Northern Canada, still has a couple of them in service. (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buffalo_Airways)
Rik Levesque used to love the buffalo airways programs wish they would do another series
But there are still C-46 Commandos in Bolivia, ones even for sale
Sometimes LOVE can be fatal.... but you got to fly in it and tell the story.
The last CURTIS COMMANDER, I SAW WAS ABOUT 1955, it was going to South America. C46 this is the one people confuse with the DC3 C47
Leighton Samms it’s Commando
such a beautiful airplane too bad they could not take care of it, or even appreciate it. I live in Mexico, and they just cut up two DC-3's here, and a DC-6 last year for the scrap metal. They were nearly intact. They kept them hidden from the public. Stupid Military. over the last 6 years there have been 5 fatal aircraft accidents due to running out of fuel mostly. They even dumped a brand new helicopter into the ocean after running it low on fuel during a sightseeing trip for a dignitary. It was supposed to be a rescue helicopter, given to them by the US, but they just used it to screw around with. People in latin countries seem to have zero appreciation of historical artifacts, or aircraft. Or even their own lives.. Sad.
Nice video...What's the name of the song used in the video?
if you ever do another video about AIRPLANES of any type--WE dont come here for MUSIC we rather hear the SOUND of the motors
Woah, good story brother.
Viva gaujiros!!
Gauchos they say there in s.a.
Loosely translated: cowboy.
Depending on where you're from:
Cuba: mountain cowboy, perhaps musician,
Perhaps farmer, maybe a gunhand...lol.
A guy who knows how to:
Perform useful work, and survive...in usually hot, humid, rough and beautiful terrain.
Salt of the earth kinda folk.
Santiago de Cuba
Bad edition: or you see the pictures or you read the history. Impossible to do both at the same time.
Apparently, I am capable of doing the impossible... could you call my wife and let her know?!?
So watch it twice nimrod
Not even an annoyance. Was riveted to the text very compelling story. Great little video.
Luv The C-46.
La Paz elevation is 3700m. It has no altitude.
Si pero el alto de donde despegó esta aeronave esta a 4060 metros de altitud
Esas latas deven dejarla en tierra y no arriesgar la vida de pilotos que no entienden que esas latas ya no estan para andar en los aire
So, for DC3 - The Dakota Hunter, Bolivia is a weird left-over of the old Inca Emporium. Lovely guy, huh.
Everything has a life span and once the thing or being gets old.One should leave it alone.Unfortunately a lot people don't understand that.The result is destruction!
sugoi films The tinker Belle is still a flying C46 constantly restored and prefprms at airshow in Monroe NC
hermoso vídeo!!!
A sad end to a reliable old aircraft, Latin America is noted for flying such aircraft,especially DC3's until they are no longer flyable, I admire the guts of the aircrews who fly these ancient aircraft
I often wonder how and who actually maintains them, IF they are maintained even. Thanks for an interesting film,I happen to be a Speed Reader,as I only managed to catch a snatch view of the aircraft before the titles expired,needs a little more adjustment and it'll be easier to watch.
C-46 "reliable"? As a kid these made me cringe watching them make multiable runs at V2 and turning back for another run at it. And that was on the concrete runways at North Philadelphia Airport
Remember Raymond, in the days of DC3's, C46's and similar' twins' Flying Machines were Babies. that is, they'd only recently left the single engine mode and lots were needed to learn, even to as late as 1950, look at the very first Jet Aircraft,the De Havilland Comet 2,itblew apart due to airframe stress problems.
Much has been learnt since those days,although looking at the Airbus's recent history, there;s STILL much to be learned.it's called Progress.
Its a testament to what "made in the USA" use to actually mean. It meant a product that was engineered by the best, manufactured by the best and would last a really long time. Nowadays you can not find that anymore because it no longer exists. The misguided consumer buys crap made in china that lasts 3 months then breaks. Its not worth fixing so they just buy another.
She's a beauty!
R.I.P
Excellent:-)
Great old bird. We flew the Commando south into Mexico from McAllen, Texas smuggling electronics. My book is on Amazon. Over & Back by Wild Bill Callahan.
Bill Callahan I thought all smugglers were mexicans
Sir Tristen .....Sir Tristen, go to my book section on Amazon & leave me a lousy review. That'll learn me! And make you feel better too!
Eliah northmex .....Eliah....glad you weren't as mean as Sir Tristen. Yeah, few people know about the smuggling that went from north to south. Sign me: "Self Promoting Pompous Ass Jerk." That Tristen has a great way with words.
You should be in prison.
d texas .....They never caught me. Came close a few times though. Got a bunch of other gringos though.
20,000+ feet altitude, un-pressurized cabin & passing a plastic oxygen mask like a water pipe???
AND Hallucinating from such???
I think you must have been on a water pipe.
C'mon...The reality of acute hypoxia combined with the other claimed conditions fail to agree with the information you suggest as fact.
CripT'Nyte MadMan when you want to see some really sad, near misses, look no further than COLUMBIA they have some real winners in that country, picture this an old SUD CARVELLE, REALLY LOADED, USING A DIRT STRIP !, there all on you tube.
That plane sounds good ! What a shame
PW R-2800's make ANYTHING sound good! 4 of them on our old C-118-B's but they leaked like a sieve. As long as it was leaking you still had oil in it! 38 gallon capacity EACH if I remember correctly.
Make sure you are a speed reader.
Fatal ??? Clickbait... what a fake description!!!!
Not even the same plane!
Since when the Capital of Bolivia is La Paz???? The Capital is Sucre!
Bolivia's constitutionally recognized capital is Sucre, while La Paz
is the administrative seat of government or de facto capital.
Therefore, the official Capital is Sucre.
Yes, of course. Quite right.
Hi
Please learn the basics of video editing before spoiling such a nice footage!
What sections were spoiled my friend?
I thought it was a very nice story.
This is messed up. 👎
Yes, may God bless them in their final voyage. I am talking about slaughtered cattle. Feeling so sorry about them.
Some the Hindu Kush baby. Bad editing