Itd be nice to see these runs on a character with lower skills. Watching you with admittedly mostly max gila and drone skills struggle for time makes it hard to imagine this build is viable with a char with 3 and 4s in many sjills.
"Budget" doesn't mean it will work on low SP char. if you don't have good skills you either: avoid higher tier abyss, go with 5bil fit, or die trying and blame the creator for making a fit for a endgame content that supposed to run by high SP players.
The whole point of this vid here is to try to push the Gila to the max while keeping the price low. There is a lot of wasted potential if the character doesnt' have good skills
Be nice to see a broke man gila fit running T5 with low sp. This game is about progression and abyssals especially are risk to reward. Don't do what you don't have the skills to do or it probably won't work out. Good life lesson that's reflected just about everywhere.
Single battery gila is basically setting yourself up to fail eventually. Even in electrical filaments you’ll find a room that’ll neut you into oblivion and then you’re out a 700m gila and possibly a half-decent pod too. While it’ll *probably* pay for itself before then it’s better to just bite the bullet for a Pith A medium booster and run double battery fit instead. That can handle electric/gamma/exotic without issue at all and is resistant to even extremely high neuting rooms.
Im looking for an abyssal guide similar to eve survival with information on waves. I understand there’s great variance in the waves but then maybe a detailed breakdown of ship types’ optimal ranges, neut threat and the like.
should you not do EM dmg in an electrical? And how about going to a Gamma with a gila for the +50% Shield Boost, or would this be bad, because the npcs also gets this bonus?
Since its an electric site, isn't it better to use EMP missiles for the electric dmg? If I remember correctly, didn't it also decrease the electric resistances (could be wrong for this one)?
i know thi is an older post but i am just returning and this is newest gila abyss i have found and want opinion on the old fit i have [Gila, Erryka's Gila] Caldari Navy Shield Power Relay Drone Damage Amplifier II Drone Damage Amplifier II Federation Navy 10MN Afterburner Republic Fleet Large Shield Extender Republic Fleet Large Shield Extender Republic Fleet Large Shield Extender Republic Fleet Large Shield Extender Pithum A-Type Thermal Shield Amplifier Rapid Light Missile Launcher II Drone Link Augmentor II Rapid Light Missile Launcher II Rapid Light Missile Launcher II Rapid Light Missile Launcher II Medium Core Defense Field Purger II Medium Core Defense Field Purger II Medium Core Defense Field Purger II Valkyrie II x5 Republic Fleet Valkyrie x5 Scourge Fury Light Missile x1000 Inferno Fury Light Missile x10000
Replying to this in case anybody else wants the info with the kikis, vedmaks, and drekavacs, their damage ramps up the longer they have you targeted this means you can sorta try to kite them and force them to reactivate their disintegrator every minute or so, so they can't ramp up. If there's a white cloud in the room, this is definitely the best strategy, just enter the white cloud and let it boost you to the other side real fast, the kikis will catch up quickly but as long as you can break their lock, they'll lose their ramp if there's no white cloud, then just don't approach them in the beginning. Instead, move around the outskirts of the room, maybe collecting the extra loot, while waiting for them to approach you. get your drones on them ASAP and prioritize any webs or neuts, while flying directly away from them to delay as long as possible Usually by the time they move up to their optimum range you've killed three or four of them and the remainder are much more manageable You'll need a similar strategy with the devoted knights, except they don't have any ramp mechanics, with them you just have to try to kill as many of them as you can before they get into range one noobtrap that rarely gets touched on is, it's not ALWAYS best to kill the healers first. you actually significantly outdamage the reps on every wave in T5 assuming good skills. This means, as counterintuitive as it may seem, that it can actually be better to focus the high damage targets like vedmaks or kikis first, and worry about the rodivas or damaviks or priests afterward If your goal is to clear the room as fast as possible obviously this is suboptimal, but if your goal is to reduce the incoming damage as quickly as possible then it makes a huge difference
@@ba28272827 That is correct. And, actually fitting for the Abyss weather is the best way to make your fits more efficient. Using the right damage type/tank not only makes you clear the rooms quicker for increased isk/h, it also keeps the fitting costs much lower, compared to getting the same ehp/s or dps without the weather effects.
@@timweber6560 You are quite correct, with some caveats. "Generalist" fits that can do multiple weathers are actually great to farm t4-5. Even if they are more expensive and less efficient that dedicated single weather designs, they are still great for lazier people. As for "solving" the abyss... Sure, plenty of very reliable fits to choose from, only issue being - they are usually quite expensive, even before you factor in the implant sets... They certainly work, but the initial investment alone is just painful. Not to say that t6s don't require a certain level of bling - they do - but for t4-5s you can still get by with sub 500mil fits with clean pods. And that's exactly where I found a lot of fun with Abyss. Coming up with and testing various cheap t5 fits. Just because a certain content is "solved", doesn't mean you can't "solve" it yourself on your own terms.
The role bonus of the Gila, is MASSIVE bonuses to medium drone, with the Ogre being a heavy drone, it won't recieve those bonuses. Besides that, the Gila 'only' got 20 mbit drone bandwith, meaning it can have 2 medium drones out or up to 4 light drones (who also won't be recieving the role bonus) and won't able to deploy a single heavy drone either because heavy drones require 25 mbit bandwith pr drone. With my skills, mind you I'm not the creator, I get around 600 EHP/s or 191 HP/s before resistences with this fit in electrical, with decent skills :)
@@mysteriouspainkillers3767 thanks bro, i was wrong about name of drones, it's "Augmented Hammerhead". Is it better than Infiltrator ? I saw gallente drones always have better dps, but in youtube video i usually see youtuber using armar drones ?
@@oceankingdom1985 In case of electrical filaments, the abyssal weather reduces EM resists and Amarr drones deals EM damage, besides that one of the reasons you see a lot of Amarr drones is that they usually have A LOT better turret tracking than Gallente drones, with the infiltrator having roughly 50% better tracking than hammerhead. While 'Augmented' deals slightly more damage they are also pretty expensive! As of right now in Jita, an Infiltrator II is roughly 1m ISK, while the 'Augmented' Infiltrator is almost 48m ISK :)
I have a weird question - has anyone tried running T5/T6 in a legion? I personally don't like using missiles in general, but maybe someone can help me put a fit together?
Easy way to avoid ganks is to run your filament near concord in space, say near a gate or a station were you can see them in your hud.
i thought that doesnt matter, since they take the same amount of time to help
Not correct if you can see them on hud the response is instant.
But they can also be pulled away.
True nothing in eve is 100% safe, just more safe.
Yet another miner who has no idea about how concord works, amazing
Itd be nice to see these runs on a character with lower skills. Watching you with admittedly mostly max gila and drone skills struggle for time makes it hard to imagine this build is viable with a char with 3 and 4s in many sjills.
The thing is you can't really do that. If you don't have the good skills you just die.
"Budget" doesn't mean it will work on low SP char. if you don't have good skills you either: avoid higher tier abyss, go with 5bil fit, or die trying and blame the creator for making a fit for a endgame content that supposed to run by high SP players.
The whole point of this vid here is to try to push the Gila to the max while keeping the price low. There is a lot of wasted potential if the character doesnt' have good skills
You shouldn't be running T5 abyssals with low skills.
Be nice to see a broke man gila fit running T5 with low sp. This game is about progression and abyssals especially are risk to reward. Don't do what you don't have the skills to do or it probably won't work out. Good life lesson that's reflected just about everywhere.
Single battery gila is basically setting yourself up to fail eventually. Even in electrical filaments you’ll find a room that’ll neut you into oblivion and then you’re out a 700m gila and possibly a half-decent pod too.
While it’ll *probably* pay for itself before then it’s better to just bite the bullet for a Pith A medium booster and run double battery fit instead. That can handle electric/gamma/exotic without issue at all and is resistant to even extremely high neuting rooms.
Im looking for an abyssal guide similar to eve survival with information on waves. I understand there’s great variance in the waves but then maybe a detailed breakdown of ship types’ optimal ranges, neut threat and the like.
should you not do EM dmg in an electrical? And how about going to a Gamma with a gila for the +50% Shield Boost, or would this be bad, because the npcs also gets this bonus?
No because of Gila bonus'
Didn't get any of the difficult rooms. Karybdis, Devoted Knights, Marshal.
If I copy your same fit, will it work fine for all the lesser difficulty abyssal space?
Assuming yournin electrical yes
Since its an electric site, isn't it better to use EMP missiles for the electric dmg? If I remember correctly, didn't it also decrease the electric resistances (could be wrong for this one)?
True it varies depending on -70% em or -50% and the type of rat. because gila gets bonus to thermal and kinetic missiles, not em
Thnks
Is it not worth it going for the extra containers?
wouldn't be better to replace the solidifier 2 rig for a cap control 2 circuit rig giving you around 35% cap stability
The electrical filament capacitor recharge bonus makes him cap stable, so he focuses more on rep/tank
i know thi is an older post but i am just returning and this is newest gila abyss i have found and want opinion on the old fit i have
[Gila, Erryka's Gila]
Caldari Navy Shield Power Relay
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Federation Navy 10MN Afterburner
Republic Fleet Large Shield Extender
Republic Fleet Large Shield Extender
Republic Fleet Large Shield Extender
Republic Fleet Large Shield Extender
Pithum A-Type Thermal Shield Amplifier
Rapid Light Missile Launcher II
Drone Link Augmentor II
Rapid Light Missile Launcher II
Rapid Light Missile Launcher II
Rapid Light Missile Launcher II
Medium Core Defense Field Purger II
Medium Core Defense Field Purger II
Medium Core Defense Field Purger II
Valkyrie II x5
Republic Fleet Valkyrie x5
Scourge Fury Light Missile x1000
Inferno Fury Light Missile x10000
Did like 5 T4s in this and died, could not kill the kikimores fast enough, it absolutely could not handle their armor, how can i improve?
Replying to this in case anybody else wants the info
with the kikis, vedmaks, and drekavacs, their damage ramps up the longer they have you targeted
this means you can sorta try to kite them and force them to reactivate their disintegrator every minute or so, so they can't ramp up. If there's a white cloud in the room, this is definitely the best strategy, just enter the white cloud and let it boost you to the other side real fast, the kikis will catch up quickly but as long as you can break their lock, they'll lose their ramp
if there's no white cloud, then just don't approach them in the beginning. Instead, move around the outskirts of the room, maybe collecting the extra loot, while waiting for them to approach you. get your drones on them ASAP and prioritize any webs or neuts, while flying directly away from them to delay as long as possible
Usually by the time they move up to their optimum range you've killed three or four of them and the remainder are much more manageable
You'll need a similar strategy with the devoted knights, except they don't have any ramp mechanics, with them you just have to try to kill as many of them as you can before they get into range
one noobtrap that rarely gets touched on is, it's not ALWAYS best to kill the healers first. you actually significantly outdamage the reps on every wave in T5 assuming good skills.
This means, as counterintuitive as it may seem, that it can actually be better to focus the high damage targets like vedmaks or kikis first, and worry about the rodivas or damaviks or priests afterward
If your goal is to clear the room as fast as possible obviously this is suboptimal, but if your goal is to reduce the incoming damage as quickly as possible then it makes a huge difference
are you running implants with this fit
In the fit screen it shows the gila fit is not cap stable. While inside the filament, that gila was cap stable. How?
electric abyss sites have a boost to cap regen I think (pretty big boost)
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@@ba28272827 That is correct. And, actually fitting for the Abyss weather is the best way to make your fits more efficient. Using the right damage type/tank not only makes you clear the rooms quicker for increased isk/h, it also keeps the fitting costs much lower, compared to getting the same ehp/s or dps without the weather effects.
@@mikspurins1455sucks that it’s part of the game, but it seems abyssal are just “solved”, and there’s little point fitting a “generalist” ship.
@@timweber6560 You are quite correct, with some caveats. "Generalist" fits that can do multiple weathers are actually great to farm t4-5. Even if they are more expensive and less efficient that dedicated single weather designs, they are still great for lazier people.
As for "solving" the abyss... Sure, plenty of very reliable fits to choose from, only issue being - they are usually quite expensive, even before you factor in the implant sets... They certainly work, but the initial investment alone is just painful. Not to say that t6s don't require a certain level of bling - they do - but for t4-5s you can still get by with sub 500mil fits with clean pods. And that's exactly where I found a lot of fun with Abyss. Coming up with and testing various cheap t5 fits. Just because a certain content is "solved", doesn't mean you can't "solve" it yourself on your own terms.
Can i asking why don't you using Ogre drones ? isn't they have better dps ?
And how many hp/s your shield healing ?
The role bonus of the Gila, is MASSIVE bonuses to medium drone, with the Ogre being a heavy drone, it won't recieve those bonuses. Besides that, the Gila 'only' got 20 mbit drone bandwith, meaning it can have 2 medium drones out or up to 4 light drones (who also won't be recieving the role bonus) and won't able to deploy a single heavy drone either because heavy drones require 25 mbit bandwith pr drone.
With my skills, mind you I'm not the creator, I get around 600 EHP/s or 191 HP/s before resistences with this fit in electrical, with decent skills :)
@@mysteriouspainkillers3767 thanks bro, i was wrong about name of drones, it's "Augmented Hammerhead". Is it better than Infiltrator ?
I saw gallente drones always have better dps, but in youtube video i usually see youtuber using armar drones ?
@@oceankingdom1985 In case of electrical filaments, the abyssal weather reduces EM resists and Amarr drones deals EM damage, besides that one of the reasons you see a lot of Amarr drones is that they usually have A LOT better turret tracking than Gallente drones, with the infiltrator having roughly 50% better tracking than hammerhead.
While 'Augmented' deals slightly more damage they are also pretty expensive! As of right now in Jita, an Infiltrator II is roughly 1m ISK, while the 'Augmented' Infiltrator is almost 48m ISK :)
@@mysteriouspainkillers3767 thanks a lot bro
I havent played in years. What's that black "cloud" around your ship ? Is it something default ? Or an effect you can buy ??
some ship skins have effects like this so you can buy it
I have a weird question - has anyone tried running T5/T6 in a legion? I personally don't like using missiles in general, but maybe someone can help me put a fit together?
Use a Paladin instead, it has even more dps, mjd and bastion!
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I see you are one of the salty ones lol
im going to just jump in and see what happens.
i died... OOF
@@jessenwhite3092 byeeee
how much ehp you had?
I prefer my duckila over this a million times
whats duckila?
@@Morfik45 it's a hybrid fit I created based on double battery fit, I removed the second battery and added large shield extender