Actually, it might be better to be a theologian than a scholar on this topic. I know they often overlap but most Bible scholars have specific areas of study say the NT or the Gospels, etc. Whereas theologians are more of a study on comprehensive study on doctrines using all of Scripture, such as this one of Eschatology. So if you're interested I have posted a 3 part comment because as much as I like Sam and his evangelistic talents, his theology on this topic is poor. It's not an attack on him, he's jut not well educated on it and it's sad to watch. Sam is great at apologetics but not this area of theology and to me it hurts the other work he does. I don't know why Christians always feel they have to have every answer even when they're clearly guessing. "I don't know" is an acceptable answer. My comment is 3 parts because I want to thoroughly debunk Sam and establish a solid foundation of biblical context. Let me know if you are unable to find it. Take care.
@@sammymadethis I would for sure. I'd love to debate anyone. Here's the problem. Why we love Sam is because of his confidence and that he takes it to the false religions aggressively. He also does this with Christians which I don't agree with but that's who he is. He talks over them. My concern is I'm not a public debater. Teaching and writing this stuff out is my forte. So if I or he stumbled do you think Sam or I would let the other go on without pointing some random error? Probably not. One of the other issues is that a debate would require beginning in Genesis. If you don't see GOD's wrath coming on the earth again, from Genesis 6,18,19 you're not going to see the reality of the Rapture, the separation of the righteous from the unrighteous. If you see GOD’s wrath coming in Scripture then you have to ask why does GOD’s wrath come? Ezekiel 38:18-23, because Israel is faced with annihilation. What Sam also misses is that Israel isn’t about the Jews or what they believe. Israel is about GOD. GOD owns the land of Israel, and the city of Jerusalem, always has always will. Leviticus 25:23 the Jews are His guests, visitors “sojourners” but it’s His land. 2 Chronicles 6:5-6 Jerusalem is His. Joel 3:1-2, Psalm 121:4 Isaiah 45:3 He calls Himself the GOD of Israel. His wrath comes because Jihadists gather to destroy Israel (including Iran and Turkey) and take Jerusalem for the glory of their false god Allah. And the LORD won’t allow it. It has nothing to do with whether the Jews believe in Jesus or not. Many Jews believe in GOD -Yahweh, Jihadists don’t. So trying to get Sam to see all these branches he currently doesn’t would make it difficult to debate because we’d just end up in a mess, I think. Prophecy isn't up for debate either it'll come to pass as I have laid out or it won't. I laid the path out for people to watch. What makes me "correct" is reality when it comes to pass. Seeing reality in Scripture coming to pass allows me to see the correct method of how we got here. I have tracked over 100 prophecies in my lifetime. So that evidence has allowed me to learn the rules and understand Scripture better but prophecy is still about the future. So debating a future that hasn't happened yet is not easy. For example, I see Revelation 6-19 as all the events leading to the 2nd Coming of Jesus. That we will have the 7 Seals first 1,2,3,4,5,5,6,7 in order. Then the Trumpets 1,2,3,4,5,6,7 in order. Then the first 3.5 year (Rev11) Then Satan will be kicked out of Heaven to earth and he will bring His wrath a well as the LORD's (Rev 16:1) and war will come to humanity which is the great tribulation (final 3.5 years) Rev 13-19. Jesus will return. Jesus said He will return at the worst possible time ever in human history where humanity is about to cause it's own self-extinction. Matthew 24 NLT 21 For there will be greater anguish than at any time since the world began. And it will never be so great again. 22 In fact, unless that time of calamity is shortened, not a single person will survive. But it will be shortened for the sake of God’s chosen ones....29 “Immediately after the anguish of those days, the sun will be darkened, the moon will give no light, the stars will fall from the sky, and the powers in the heavens will be shaken. 30 And then at last, the sign that the Son of Man is coming will appear in the heavens, and there will be deep mourning among all the peoples of the earth. And they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory." You either see how humanity will bring itself to the brink of self extinction via war or you don't. You either see GOD's wrath coming again on the earth (which means that GOD removes the righteous first before Rev 6 and Rev 16 when His wrath comes) or you don't. This view is directly opposed to Preterism because it's yet to come. It directly opposes Post-Millennialism because Christians aren't ruling the world when Jesus comes. It directly opposes Amillennialism because GOD's wrath on the earth is not part of that view. It directly opposes Post Trib because GOD's wrath comes twice requiring GOD to remove all the righteous from the earth first (Rapture). IF 2025 is the year the 7 years start (my guess is in fall) we should if we were here see over 1/3 of humanity Raptured and killed by war this year. That is a hard reality to accept but that shows how anchored we are to this world. Nations all over the earth are collapsing, millions and millions of people are suffering and because some Western Christians don't feel the economic pain well it can't be as bad as I'm saying. I must be exaggerating how bad things are. That GOD is allowing the world to fall into chaos and war to have millions come to Him before we're taken by Rapture or death. Jesus had 1 message, it wasn't morality. John 6:38 For I have come down from heaven, not to do My own will, but the will of Him who sent Me. 39 This is the will of the Father who sent Me, that of all He has given Me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up at the last day. 40 And this is the will of Him who sent Me, that everyone who sees the Son and believes in Him may have everlasting life; and I will raise him up at the last day.” When we become believers GOD will use us in any way via struggles, sickness, death to bring others to Himself. Well He's going to use all these things in 2025 and it'll be even harder for Christians this year than in the past. Many will lose faith. This is not a narrative and understanding many will believe. 2 Chronicles 7:14 shows us that GOD will heal our land or won't because of our wickedness not the wickedness of the lost. Well He won't heal our lands and it's because of the wickedness of the Church. Sodom and Gomorrah would have been spared despite al their sins had there been 10 righteous. There wasn't. The problem wasn't the level of sin, it was the lack of righteous people. As the world is judged and the West falls it'll be because of a lack of righteous people. The lack of righteous people allows sin to grow and the punishment of sin to overtake a land. It seems that the more we see Bible prophecy unfold the more blinded the Church becomes as a whole. The world is literally preparing for global war and Christians are talking about culture? The lost world is wanting someone to help them make sense of the insanity and yet Christians aren’t saying look the Bible has predicted all these events showing GOD is real and Jesus is the way. No they argue against it with other Christians. I am not here to date-set. I am here to point to the giant flashing warnings Jesus says to watch for to know the season. You either see it or you don’t. I just don’t know how to debate that. If I had the chance though I would love to try. I don't want Christians to lose faith as the days get darker, I want them to have hope, to have their faith strengthened amongst the chaos to know our KING is Coming for us. For those who are covered by His blood. To go out and share Jesus and pray for the lost knowing the moment we those who have been given His righteousness are removed/separated from the unrighteous the world will experience Hs wrath Rev 6:14-17. This is why I don't try to predict the date of the Rapture. Because I know there is a balance only GOD knows between how long He will hold His wrath back while people are coming to Him to be saved. I don't know when the moment will be that He says "enough" but it's coming. I hope this helps. Take care.
@@TboneWTF If you really want to know about Jesus try to think different. Let’s say you’re a Judge in court and a man’s life is on the line you have the power to save the man’s life or have him executed. They bring forth several eye witnesses saying he’s innocent. If you’re a fair judge would you not hear their testimony and save a life? That’s what the Bible is and that’s how God chose to communicate with us.
@ " Let’s say you’re a Judge in court and a man’s life is on the line " A Jury of 12 peers decides the outcome of a person depending on how valid and credible the evidence is. Any well schooled defense attorney will eliminate or draw question to any eyewitness. Regardless, we are not discussing natural claims and events from reality. This is a supernatural event and eye witnesses are not enough to confirm it's validity. Are you saying it isn't possible that these witnesses may have been mistaken?
@ " Let’s say you’re a Judge in court and a man’s life is on the line " A group of 12 people decides the outcome depending on how valid and credible the evidence is. Any well schooled defense attorney will eliminate or draw question to any eyewitness. Regardless, we are not discussing natural claims and events from reality. This is a supernatural event and eye witnesses are not enough to confirm it's validity. Are you saying it isn't possible that these witnesses may have been mistaken?
@ " Let’s say you’re a Judge in court and a man’s life is on the line " A group of 12 people decides the outcome depending on how valid and credible the evidence is. Any well schooled defense attorney will eliminate or draw question to any eyewitness. Regardless, we are not discussing natural claims and events from reality. This is a supernatural event and eye witnesses are not enough to confirm it's validity. Are you saying it isn't possible that these witnesses may have been mistaken?
Thirty years ago, God gave me a dream showing me this day. It was before I became a Christian. The vision terrified me so much, I told a woman at work about it, and she said, " You described exactly what is in the Bible." I didn't believe her. I went to the bookstore to find a Bible, and when I read the passage, the hairs on my arm stood on end. What happened was it was afternoon, and I went downstairs to the dining room. The clock said 12pm. It was broad daylight. Then all of a sudden it became pitch black, and the stars began to roll up, as if they were going down a drain. I looked beside me, and I saw my roommate was next to me. I suddenly knew she would not be able to look at what was coming. I told her to cover her eyes, and then I looked back up to the sky. It was a light appearing. It was God. I then looked back at her, and she was on her knees, and her spirit inside her eyes was on fire, but her body was intact. She was in torment. Just when I was going to lament, I was taken up into the sky. I became very large. Then I woke up. It was a very intense dream. I was not religious nor was I a Christian. It was over a decade later God gave me the Holy Spirit. I thought all of this stuff was just a fairy tale. I don't think that anymore.
@@Gatteleylife9957 do u Care re to explain.... I mean I really need some money right now.... U can't do nothing with love today but money can buy happiness or rent love
@@MrIgnorance Money cannot buy life. You can live all your life searching for money and die or you can search the Lord and have eternal life. One day, you will no more be on this earth and money cannot buy you back. The question is : Material things brings you true hapiness that last forever or will it stop at one point and you'll need more and more ?
Oh boy, another divine interpretation of the tribulation sequence, my humble advice, just be spiritually ready, doing God's will and obeying His word, preaching the gospel to all who will listen.
It gives me comfort at the end of the day that there are old grannies and grandpas who love the Lord humbly and don’t understand anything but the Love of Jesus. Meek and gentle and innocent. Not understanding theology and rebuttal. I agree with you. Be ready for simply Loving the Lord he will do what needs to be done wether you understand it or not.
9:09 Sam, brother I love you, I've listened to you for over a decade. You are wrong here. The seven years referring to revelation and the 3.5 years is not only revelation but also found in Daniel. You must take the whole Word of God my brother.
I see where you coming from, but Sam’s argument is actually grounded in taking the whole Word of God seriously. While the seven years are often linked to Daniel 9:27, there’s no explicit mention of a seven-year tribulation in Revelation. The 'time, times, and half a time' (3.5 years) in Revelation is clear, but doubling that to make seven years is an assumption, not something stated in the text. Daniel 9:27, as Sam explained, fits the historical context of the Jewish-Roman War (66-73 AD) and the destruction of the Temple. When we read the Bible without imposing modern dispensational frameworks, Sam’s points actually hold up very well. I’d encourage a closer look at how these passages are interpreted historically and contextually.
@@sammymadethis Part 1/2 Actually Sam is not correct and I will prove it. First, there's some basic facts that Revelation was written post 70AD. Irenaeus confirms this who in his writings "Against Heresies" Book V Chapter 30 "We will not, however, incur the risk of pronouncing positively as to the name of Antichrist; for if it were necessary that his name should be distinctly revealed in this present time, it would have been announced by him who beheld the apocalyptic vision. For that was seen no very long time since, but almost in our day, towards the end of Domitian's reign. St. Irenaeus. Against Heresies (p. 495). Veritatis Splendor Publications. Kindle Edition. Domitian's reign of which the John beheld the Apocalyptic vision was 95-96 AD as Domitian's reign lasted from 81-96AD after 70AD and the destruction of the Temple and Jerusalem. Irenaeus was discipled by Polycarp and Polycarp was directly discipled by the Apostle John. Now we don't have to take early Christians word on things but Irenaeus who was 1 degree from the Apostle John wrote Irenaeus (about 180 AD) wrote his 5 volume work called “Against Heresies” “In 2 Thessalonians, the ‘falling away’ is an apostasy and there will be a literal rebuilt temple. In Matthew, the ‘abomination spoken by Daniel’ is the Antichrist sitting in the temple as if he were Christ. The abomination will start in the middle of Daniel’s 70th week and last for a literal three years and six months. The little horn is the Antichrist. Against Heresies 5.25 Irenaeus discipled Hippolytus who wrote over 100 chapters over 2 books on this topic alone: Hippolytus (170-235 AD) wrote a 67 section/ chapter writing called "The Antichrist - a Treatise on Christ and Antichrist" "Now we must consider the question at hand, letting the previous introduction suffice. We must find out what the Holy Scriptures teach about: the occasion and time of the coming of Antichrist what tribe he comes from what his name is (from the number 666 in Scripture) how he shall work error among the people, gathering them from the ends of the earth his tribulation and persecution against the saints how he glorifies himself as God. What his end shall be the Lord’s sudden appearing revealed from heaven the conflagration of the whole world the glorious and heavenly kingdom of the saints when they reign together with Christ the punishment of the wicked by fire." Section 5-Prophecy introduction. Continued in his writing… "Now Daniel will set forth this subject to us. For he says, “And one week will make a covenant with many, and it shall be that in the midst of the week my sacrifice and oblation shall cease.” Daniel 9:27 By one week, therefore, he meant the last week which is to be at the end of the whole world, of which week the two prophets Enoch and Elias will take up the half. For they will preach 1,260 days clothed in sackcloth, proclaiming repentance to the people and to all the nations." ...For John says, “And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth.” Revelation 11:3 That is the half of the week that Daniel spoke about. “These are the two olive trees and the two candlesticks standing before the Lord of the earth. And if any man will hurt them, fire will proceed out of their mouth, and devour their enemies; and if any man will hurt them, he must in this manner be killed. These have power to shut heaven, that it rain not in the days of their prophecy; and have power over waters, to turn them to blood, and to smite the earth with all plagues as often as they will.” Revelation 11:4-6 And when they shall have finished their course and their testimony, what does the prophet say? “the beast that ascendeth out of the bottomless pit shall make war against them, and shall overcome them, and kill them,” Revelation 11:7 because they will not give glory to Antichrist. For this is meant by the little horn that grows up. He, being now elated in heart, begins to exalt himself, and to glorify himself as God, persecuting the saints and blaspheming Christ, even as Daniel says, “I considered the horns, and, behold, in the horn were eyes like the eyes of man, and a mouth speaking great things; and he opened his mouth to blaspheme God. And that born made war against the saints, and prevailed against them until the beast was slain, and perished, and his body was given to be burned.” Daniel 7:8 Hippolytus (170-235AD):(notice a different book) On the End of the World A Discourse by the Most Blessed Hippolytus, Bishop and Martyr, on the End of the World, and on Antichrist, and on the Second Coming of Our Lord Jesus Christ. "...And after that he will build the temple in Jerusalem (notice a literal building), and will restore it again speedily, and give it over to the Jews. And then he will be lifted up in heart against every man; yea, he will speak blasphemy also against God, thinking in his deceit that he shall be king upon the earth hereafter forever; not knowing, miserable wretch, that his kingdom is to be quickly brought to naught, and that he will quickly have to meet the fire which is prepared for him, along with all who trust him and serve him. For when Daniel said, “I shall make my covenant for one week,” Daniel 9:27 he indicated seven years; and the one half of the week is for the preaching of the prophets, and for the other half of the week - that is to say, for three years and a half -Antichrist will reign upon the earth. And after this his kingdom and his glory shall be taken away." But lett's look at Scripture. In Revelation 11:1-2 we see the new Temple being built, as the one Jesus walked out of in Matthew 24:1-2 has been destroyed. Second, Rev 11:3 says 3 And I will give power to my two witnesses, and they will prophesy 1,260 days, clothed in sackcloth.” 1,260 days is important because it's exactly 3.5 years when using a 360 day calendar. Genesis 7- 11 In the six hundredth year of Noah’s life, in the second month (2nd month), the seventeenth day of the month (17th day), on that day all the fountains of the great deep were broken up, and the windows of heaven were opened. Genesis 8: 3 And the waters receded continually from the earth. At the end of the hundred and fifty days (150 days) the waters decreased. 4 Then the ark rested in the seventh month (7th month), the seventeenth day of the month (17th day), on the mountains of Ararat. From 2nd month 17th day to 7th month 17th day = 5 months of 150 days = 30 days per month. Isaiah 66:23 And it shall come to pass That from one New Moon to another (30 days- 29.5 according to NASA), And from one Sabbath to another, All flesh shall come to worship before Me,” says the Lord. Daniel 9:25-26 (I am copying a reply I sent to a Jewish man but it shows Prophecy uses a 360 day calendar, it's using the Orthodox Jewish translation) 25 Have da’as, therefore, and get seichel, that from the going forth of the decree to restore and to rebuild Yerushalayim (Jerusalem) unto Moshiach Nagid (Messiah Prince) shall be shivah (seven) heptads (weeks) and threescore (3x20= 60) and two heptads (2 weeks); the rechov shall be built again, and the charutz, even in troublous times. (7 weeks) and (62 weeks) = 69 weeks out of 70 weeks (verse 24) 26 And after threescore and two heptads (62 weeks), yikaret (will be cut off) Moshiach [Yeshayah 53:8], but not for himself This tells us that 69 weeks or 173,880 days from the "decree to rebuild Jerusalem" 445 BC (found in Nehemiah 2:1-6) www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/timeline-for-the-history-of-jerusalem-4500-bce-present 445-425 BCE - Nehemiah the Prophet Rebuilds the Walls of Jerusalem; City Confined to Eastern Hill to the Messiah will be "yikaret" (cut off, cut down, killed, destroyed, or perish,) Add 173,880 days which is Nisan (Passover) 32AD 26 And after threescore and two heptads, yikaret (will be cut off killed) Moshiach [Yeshayah 53:8], but not for himself 69 weeks of years = 483 years x 360 days per year in 173,880 days from the decree to rebuild Jerusalem to the killing of Messiah the Prince. Nehemiah 2:1 says the decree went out Nisan 445 BC. 173,880 days into our Gregorian calendar of 365.25 days per year is 476.0575 years. Nisan 445 BC- Nisan 1 BC = 444 years (476.0575 -444 =32.0575) Nisan 1 AD +32.0575 = 32 AD Nisan 1+ .0575 (21 Days) = Nisan 22 (Passover) 32AD the killing of Messiah the Prince but not for Himself. And the next part of the verse 26 says the Messiah the Prince needs to be cut off BEFORE the destruction of the Temple and Jerusalem. (end of study) So 1 week is 7 years with the years being 360 days per year or = 2,520 days because we know how to calculate the 69 weeks prior. (Continued in Part 2)
@@sammymadethis Part 2/2 So in Revelation 11:3 have we ever seen 2 invincible witnesses preach for 3.5 years or 1,260 days in Jerusalem? No. Have we then seen the killed and lay in the streets for 3.5 days? No. Have we seen them then resurrected and taken up to Heaven? No. This is all spelled out in Revelation 11. Rev 11:7 When they (2 invincible witnesses) finish their testimony (1,260 days or 3.5 years), the beast that ascends out of the bottomless pit will make war against them, overcome them, and kill them. Rev 13:1 the beast arises - verse 3b "And all the world marveled and followed the beast. 4 So they worshiped the dragon who gave authority to the beast; and they worshiped the beast, saying, “Who is like the beast? Who is able to make war with him?” 5 And he was given a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies, and he was given authority to continue for forty-two months. 6 Then he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme His name, His tabernacle, and those who dwell in heaven. 7 It was granted to him to make war with the saints and to overcome them. And authority was given him over every tribe, tongue, and nation." the beast was given authority over the earth for 42 months or 3.5 years. 2 witnesses preach for 3.5 years then they are killed by a "beast" and the beast is given authority over the earth for 3.5 years. = a 7 year timeframe. That early Christians verify that's what they taught. What is the Rapture? The Rapture is the removal of the righteous (Christians, the Church) from the earth. Why? GOD's wrath. 2 Peter 3 there are ONLY 2 periods in all of human history where GOD's wrath comes first the flood, then will be of fire. Jesus in Luke 17 says just before He comes it'll be like the days of Noah and Lot. Those days weren't good days, those days were of wickedness and GOD's wrath. We see in Revelation 6:14 Then the sky receded as a scroll when it is rolled up, and every mountain and island was moved out of its place. 15 And the kings of the earth, the great men, the rich men, the commanders, the mighty men, every slave and every free man, hid themselves in the caves and in the rocks of the mountains, 16 and said to the mountains and rocks, “Fall on us and hide us from the face of Him who sits on the throne and from the wrath of the Lamb! 17 For the great day of His wrath has come, and who is able to stand?” And Rev 16:1 the 7 bowls of GOD's wrath are poured out. In Revelation we have 3 sets of Judgment 7 Seals, 7 Trumpets and 7 Bowls. In Rev 5 Jesus is given a scroll with 7 Seals, in Rev 6 we see Seals 1,2,3,4,5,6, broken in numerical order. Seal 7 is broken in Rev 8:1 AFTER Seal 7 in Rev 8:2 we are introduced to 7 Trumpets and from Rev 8:7-Rev 9 Trumpets 1,2,3,4,5,6 are blown in numerical order. Trumpet 6 is Rev 9 then we see Trumpet 7 in Rev 11:15 AFTER the first 3.5 years preaching of the 2 witnesses. So the 7 years begin AFTER Trumpet 6 but before Trumpet 7. Trumpet 1 comes BEFORE Trumpet 6 and Seal 7 Comes BEFORE Trumpet 1, and Seal 6 the first mention of GOD's wrath is BEFORE Seal 7. So GOD's wrath comes BEFORE the 7 years. Genesis 18. GOD comes to Abraham and says He will destroy Sodom and Gomorrah. Abraham responds: 23 And Abraham came near and said, “Would You also destroy the righteous with the wicked? 24 Suppose there were fifty righteous within the city; would You also destroy the place and not spare it for the fifty righteous that were in it? 25 Far be it from You to do such a thing as this, to slay the righteous with the wicked, so that the righteous should be as the wicked; far be it from You! Shall not the Judge of all the earth do right?” 26 So the Lord said, “If I find in Sodom fifty righteous within the city, then I will spare all the place for their sakes.” We see Abraham negotiate it down to 10 righteous in the 2 cities. 32 Then he said, “Let not the Lord be angry, and I will speak but once more: Suppose ten should be found there?” And He said, “I will not destroy it for the sake of ten.” Despite all the sins of Sodom and Gomorrah GOD would have spared the cities for the sake of 10 righteous. Now we read Genesis 19 and we see that there wasn't 10 righteous so the few righteous were removed AND THEN the LORD"s wrath came. Gen 19: 15-22. A lot of Christians look at America and call it the "new Sodom" and proclaim GOD will judge it. But they look at judgment coming because of the sins of the lost not the wickedness of His people. When there are believers and unbelievers in the lands whether it was Sodom or Israel GOD looked at when those who claimed to be His people were wicked. When America is judged it's not because of the sins of the ungodly but because His people (Us) Believers have become wicked. 2 Chronicles 7:14. But GOD throughout Scripture removes or separates the righteous from the unrighteous BEFORE judgment. Matthew 25, Rev 20, etc. There is a separation first and then they are judged. John 3:36, Romans 6:7-8 and 1 Thess 5:8-11 show us because we are covered by His blood, and given His righteousness we are not destined for His wrath. 1 Thess 5:8 But let us who are of the day be sober, putting on the breastplate of faith and love, and as a helmet the hope of salvation. 9 For God did not appoint us to wrath, but to obtain salvation through our Lord Jesus Christ, 10 who died for us, that whether we wake or sleep, we should live together with Him. 11 Therefore comfort each other and edify one another, just as you also are doing. We as those who are covered by His blood will not see His wrath. The Rapture isn't about escaping hard times, persecution or martyrdom, it's about escaping the LORD"s wrath. Which we see in Rev 6:12-17 Seal 6, which is BEFORE the 7 years begin. That's it. It's very simple when you understand the biblical context and narrative. I hope it helps.
Praise God for dispite me being stubborn and not yet belonging to a church, but having a love for scripture that this is exactly how I understood eschatology. God is faithful
While I WANT to be raptured due to the wonton evil and immorality of this world growing so fast, for the sake of my children more than anything. It does NOT matter regardless, as I have chosen to Follow Jesus eternal, God has my back in all times and situations, and Pre-Mid-Post I know where I end up. Time is so short regardless and the tribulation starts soon. All the events and signs of it starting are happening NOW. So get right with God, keep praying, and even when you fail like I do, step up, ask your forgiveness and ask God for more help in following Jesus's example of living no matter what.
@TTSPOG Story of my life, and of every Christian who genuinely follows Christ. The struggles are almost limitless just as the race we run is almost endless, but as Paul exhorts us, keep running the race. And run the race to victory we will. With Jesus' help, we shall be victorious in the end. 🎶''When we all get to Heaven, what a day of REJOICING that will be. When we all see Jesus, we'll sing and shout the victory!''🎶🎶
You are missing an important point. rev 20 : 4-6 says all those who were beheaded and refused the mark would be resurrected. This seems to be referring to those killed during the tribulation. Which leaves out 2000 years of dead Christians. Jesus said that he goes to prepare a place for us to be with God. When Jesus returns He will be coming to live on earth, seperating the sheep from the goats. You also leave out the host returning with Jesus. The tribulation will also kill massive numbers of people with all manner of disasters. If there is no rapture all Christians will be subject to the foretold disasters, not just those converted through the tribulation or the opening of the seals whatever term you wish to use. There is more than I can recount here but one final point, the living can`t be resurrected. Therefore according to your interpretation we must all die in order to be resurrected.
Yes Good job, you are correct. This guy is wrong. The great multitude John was shown by the angel was those you had to wash their robes and were beheaded by the ac during the tribulation. Bible clearly states that.
If the new heaven and earth is destroyed at the beginning of the 1000 years. How is Satan loosed after the 1000 years and deceives those I'm the kingdom. Most Christians overlook this verse in the Bible. But actually its one of the most important. Don't over look it. Really meditate on this verse and its implication. Satan's little season.
No .Jesus clearly states that the tribulation starts immediately after the destruction of the temple. After the Jews stone Steven the temple was destroyed within the same year. Then those who were alive flee into the roman province were the early Christian and apostle were being prosecuted for the faith both by the Jews and Romans .even during the mid evil times many were prosecuted by the church also . And by other roman provinces who didn't like the faith .during John time he says This is the spirit of the antichrist, which you have heard is coming is now is already in the world” (1 John 4:3).John made it clear that the antichrist was already in the world during his time and even after that ..therefore the people who did not receive the mark was those people from 2000 years ago until now .God is a fair God he wouldn't take you and me out during our days and not those people in those days that went through the most horrific death for the faith .Jesus made it clear that his coming will be no secret ,for as lighten flashes east and and is being clearly seen in the west so will his coming be ; and all eyes she see him coming in the cloud .and on that day the dead in Christ will rise and those who are alive in Christ will change into incorruptable bodies and meet him in the air and will reign with Christ a thousand years . those who were dead and are not in Christ will not rise until the thousand were finished .this is the second resurrection . those who are alive on the day of Christ return will die by the brightness of his coming .there will be no one to lament or bury their dead bodies ,they will be like dung upon the earth .and their will be desolation in the earth in those days .and the devil will have no one to deceive until the thousand years were finish .after the thousand was finish he will go back to deceive the nation again.saints looked down from heaven and ask when Lord ,when will you go down to avenge our death ..those are of the second resurrection.and he will gather together the armies to fight against the saints ,this is the bottle of armorgaden
Part 3/3 Rev 6- Seal 6 14 Then the sky receded as a scroll when it is rolled up, and every mountain and island was moved out of its place. 15 And the kings of the earth, the great men, the rich men, the commanders, the mighty men, every slave and every free man, hid themselves in the caves and in the rocks of the mountains, 16 and said to the mountains and rocks, “Fall on us and hide us from the face of Him who sits on the throne and from the wrath of the Lamb! 17 For the great day of His wrath has come, and who is able to stand?” (Remember Lactantius and Victorinus both mention Rev 6- Seal 6 in connection with the Rapture? Here's why) What is the Rapture? The Rapture is the removal of the righteous (Christians, the Church) from the earth. Why? GOD's wrath. 2 Peter 3 there are ONLY 2 periods in all of human history where GOD's wrath comes first the flood, then will be of fire. Jesus in Luke 17 says just before He comes it'll be like the days of Noah and Lot. Those days weren't good days, those days were of wickedness and GOD's wrath. We see in Revelation 6:14 Then the sky receded as a scroll when it is rolled up, and every mountain and island was moved out of its place. 15 And the kings of the earth, the great men, the rich men, the commanders, the mighty men, every slave and every free man, hid themselves in the caves and in the rocks of the mountains, 16 and said to the mountains and rocks, “Fall on us and hide us from the face of Him who sits on the throne and from the wrath of the Lamb! 17 For the great day of His wrath has come, and who is able to stand?” And Rev 16:1 the 7 bowls of GOD's wrath are poured out. In Revelation we have 3 sets of Judgment 7 Seals, 7 Trumpets and 7 Bowls. In Rev 5 Jesus is given a scroll with 7 Seals, in Rev 6 we see Seals 1,2,3,4,5,6, broken in numerical order. Seal 7 is broken in Rev 8:1 AFTER Seal 7 in Rev 8:2 we are introduced to 7 Trumpets and from Rev 8:7-Rev 9 Trumpets 1,2,3,4,5,6 are blown in numerical order. Trumpet 6 is Rev 9 then we see Trumpet 7 in Rev 11:15 AFTER the first 3.5 years preaching of the 2 witnesses. So the 7 years begin AFTER Trumpet 6 but before Trumpet 7. Trumpet 1 comes BEFORE Trumpet 6 and Seal 7 Comes BEFORE Trumpet 1, and Seal 6 the first mention of GOD's wrath is BEFORE Seal 7. So GOD's wrath comes BEFORE the 7 years. Genesis 18. GOD comes to Abraham and says He will destroy Sodom and Gomorrah. Abraham responds: 23 And Abraham came near and said, “Would You also destroy the righteous with the wicked? 24 Suppose there were fifty righteous within the city; would You also destroy the place and not spare it for the fifty righteous that were in it? 25 Far be it from You to do such a thing as this, to slay the righteous with the wicked, so that the righteous should be as the wicked; far be it from You! Shall not the Judge of all the earth do right?” 26 So the Lord said, “If I find in Sodom fifty righteous within the city, then I will spare all the place for their sakes.” We see Abraham negotiate it down to 10 righteous in the 2 cities. 32 Then he said, “Let not the Lord be angry, and I will speak but once more: Suppose ten should be found there?” And He said, “I will not destroy it for the sake of ten.” Despite all the sins of Sodom and Gomorrah GOD would have spared the cities for the sake of 10 righteous. Now we read Genesis 19 and we see that there wasn't 10 righteous so the few righteous were removed AND THEN the LORD"s wrath came. Gen 19: 15-22. A lot of Christians look at America and call it the "new Sodom" and proclaim GOD will judge it. But they look at judgment coming because of the sins of the lost not the wickedness of His people. When there are believers and unbelievers in the lands whether it was Sodom or Israel GOD looked at when those who claimed to be His people were wicked. When America is judged it's not because of the sins of the ungodly but because His people (Us) Believers have become wicked. 2 Chronicles 7:14. But GOD throughout Scripture removes or separates the righteous from the unrighteous BEFORE judgment. Matthew 25, Rev 20, etc. There is a separation first and then they are judged. John 3:36, Romans 6:7-8 and 1 Thess 5:8-11 show us because we are covered by His blood, and given His righteousness we are not destined for His wrath. 1 Thess 5:8 But let us who are of the day be sober, putting on the breastplate of faith and love, and as a helmet the hope of salvation. 9 For God did not appoint us to wrath, but to obtain salvation through our Lord Jesus Christ, 10 who died for us, that whether we wake or sleep, we should live together with Him. 11 Therefore comfort each other and edify one another, just as you also are doing. We as those who are covered by His blood will not see His wrath. The Rapture isn't about escaping hard times, persecution or martyrdom, it's about escaping the LORD"s wrath. Which we see in Rev 6:12-17 Seal 6, which is BEFORE the 7 years begin. That's it. It's very simple when you understand the biblical context and narrative. Here's why this topic is important. In Matthew 16 Jesus rebuked the Pharisees in verses 1-4 and Peter later hard for not knowing the plans of the LORD. The Pharisees didn't know the time of their visitation and Peter didn't understand the cross. Jesus blasted those who claimed to know GOD and His Word. He blasted Peter who had followed Him for over 3 years. I don't want Christians today to miss this. I hope this helps. Take care.
If the Lord is returning as he promised, stops whilst in the sky and collects us, we meet with him, then come on down with him to Armageddon, and then remain with him as he rules and reigns for 1000 years, and then be with him through the Last Judgement and on into the New Heavens and New Earth... are we not "with the Lord forever"? It says nothing about being raptured and then waiting up in heaven and then coming down X amount of time later. That's been "read into" the passages. Just take them as they are. And read Matthew 24: "After the tribulation... two shall be in a field, and one taken and one left..."
Nothing human can prepare a human being for what’s to come. I understand the fear of pre tribs and the chest pounding of the post tribs. I’ve made peace and repeat what I’ve learned from others, “pray for pre, prepare for post”.
Because he spares us his wrath. There will be two witnesses who go around making more Christians AFTER we have left. This is where some get confused as to how there will be any Christians during the 7 year tribulation - it’s because they decided to come to faith AFTER the rapture takes place. They will have to die as Christians or survive until we come back with Jesus as his saints.
I don't understand the logic in that. Take some Christians but in the blink of an eye, take more. If you're one who holds a 7 yr tribulation, that's like a vapor in time. Even 100 years is like a fart in the wind (excuse my humor). What sense does it make to remove however many Christians at the start of a tribulation, only to create and take more literally the next day?
Thank you for presenting this teaching! Sam Shamoun is famous for debating and convincing Muslims that the Quran is not the word of God. His knowledge of the Bible and the Quran is top notch!
Problem here is that he is saying that sinners will be removed from the earth and there won’t be sinners during the millennium. Yet the Bible states that there will be nations refusing to go to Jerusalem and therefore will not receive rain. Those right there ARE sinners.
Exactly! Zekariah 14:16-20. I think many times the Scriptures condense events that will take time to manifest and make them to look like that they will happen quickly right after the other (or out of order). Whereas some events may stretch out for years to take place fully. Its up to us to take the whole council of Elohim correctly and not just read verses in isolation. I think the book of Revelation, specifically chapter 20 (on this subject) reveals to us a nice chronolgy of the events (There will be a ressurrection [only for the just] followed by the 1000 yr reign of the Messiah on earth - where there will be both spirit beings and physical beings (surviving nations) co-existing on earth. The phyical beings will pro-create (as usual), and still be capable of dying...even though they dont have to die...if they keep the Torah coming out of Yerushalayim from the Messiah, they could easily live a 1000 years. But if they sin they could die before the 1000 years are over (See YeshaYahu [Isaiah] 65: 20-25]). Another good example of condensed events is in 1 Cor 15:23-28. I think we should look at Rev 20 as a chapter that gives a clear chronology of when the condensed events (mentioned in other places) will take place. There are too many Scriptures especially in the Torah (old Testament) - about the restoration of Yirael, the re-built temple, restored priesthood, keeping of Feasts (see Ezekiel and other places), basically the LITERAL rule of the Messiah on EARTH that cannot be ignored. This makes Rev 20 a key chapter to accept that all the promises/prophecies mentioned by the prophets will literally be fulfilled during this time (a literal 1000 year reign).
Who told you that’s not a conditional promise that was meant to happen but the Jews were cut off. Some of Zach 12-14 might happen but not all need to happen
1 Thes 5:9 for God did not appoint us to wrath, but to obtain salvation through our Lord Jesus Christ,. Revelation 15 thru 16 talks of the wrath being poured out.
He's wrong about Daniel 9:27. That hasn't happened yet. The final week is the 7 years of the Great Tribulation. Look at the purpose of the weeks of judgment. Daniel 9:24 Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy. Let's start with putting an end to sins. Is there still sin in Jerusalem? Yes. So have the events in 66 AD or whatever put an end to sins? No. Bring in everlasting righteousness? Of course not. Last but not least, anoint the Most Holy. This is absolutely a deal breaker. Jesus will be anointed King of the Earth and will reign for 1000 years at the end of the Great Tribulation. The Great Tribulation ends at the end of the 70th week of Daniel. Jesus was never crowned King of Earth. It didn't happen yet. The Great Tribulation will be the end of the judgment against Israel for her past iniquities, which were very great. They're over. Israel is at perfect peace with Jesus there physically ruling as King. Zephaniah 3:9-15 9 For then will I turn to the people a pure language, that they may all call upon the name of the Lord, to serve him with one consent. 10 From beyond the rivers of Ethiopia my suppliants, even the daughter of my dispersed, shall bring mine offering. 11 In that day shalt thou not be ashamed for all thy doings, wherein thou hast transgressed against me: for then I will take away out of the midst of thee them that rejoice in thy pride, and thou shalt no more be haughty because of my holy mountain. 12 I will also leave in the midst of thee an afflicted and poor people, and they shall trust in the name of the Lord. 13 The remnant of Israel shall not do iniquity, nor speak lies; neither shall a deceitful tongue be found in their mouth: for they shall feed and lie down, and none shall make them afraid. 14 Sing, O daughter of Zion; shout, O Israel; be glad and rejoice with all the heart, O daughter of Jerusalem. 15 The Lord hath taken away thy judgments, he hath cast out thine enemy: the king of Israel, even the Lord, is in the midst of thee: thou shalt not see evil any more. Zephaniah is prophesying about the Day of the LORD, which is the theme of his whole Book. The Day of the LORD is the final day of the Great Tribulation. The remnant of Israel will have a pure language (no cursing or lies). The prideful have been removed. Only a remnant is left. Nobody shall make them afraid (verse 13). You can't tell me this was accomplished 2000 years ago. And in verse 15, we see the Lord has removed their judgments and Jesus is King among them. Why did He take away their judgments? Because the 70 weeks of judgment have been fulfilled. The judgment is over now. It is complete. Let's look at that again. Daniel 9:24 Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy. Verse 25 has already been accomplished by Nehemiah. 69 weeks are done. Daniel 9:25 Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times. But then there was a gap. The 70th week is different. It hasn't happened yet. God hit the pause button on judgment. Even if you believe the 70th week was in AD 66, there was a massive gap between Nehemiah and then. You're conceding the pause button. Now when you look at verse 27 where it discusses the 70th week, is there any honest way to believe it has already happened? Daniel 9:27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate. No. This is a future event, after which the 70 weeks of judgment upon Israel will have been fulfilled. Then and only then is the judgment removed, and the sins end, and Jesus is crowned King on Earth.
This wrath is “ thymos” in greek - the wrath to which we are not appointed in thessalonians is “ orge” in greek ~ Final judgement. Thymos is what hundreds of thousands of christians are experiencing today- persecution to death
@@protorhinocerator142 Daniel 9:27 Was fulfilled when God refused the Yom Kippur sacrifices for 40 years starting after Jesus died until the destruction of the second temple, when it was made desolate in 70 A.D. God signifying his refusal of temple sacrifice is clearly recorded in the Jewish Talmud.
Christ return on earth is of two stages first is to meet the believers (overcomers, first fruit, first harvest) on the air before the wrath of God is poured into the earth, second is at the end of tribulation at the mount of olives responding to the Jews during the battle of Armaggedon, and setting up His kindom with all the believers taken into the air including those who come into faith during the great tribulation and those resurrected who are slain because of His name, those unbelievers who died will only be resurrected on the judgment day after the 1000 year of Christ reign on earth.
But Peter is saying we look forward to New Heaven and New Earth … meaning it’s not necessarily immediate and can be at the end of his 1000 year reign with us. So there is congruence.
(25:35) 2. Peter v3:8 "But do not forget this one thing, dear friends: With the Lord a day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years are like a day."
Question: According to Rev. 20:4, if those resurrected at the First Resurrection only include those believers killed by the Antichrist then who is being referred to as the rest of the dead?
Revelation seems to say "Yes, everything will happen as promised but there is a small intermission between the establishment of the Kingdom and Judgement that until now I haven't shared with you". 1000 years is a blip in human history.
Wow! His explanation is the simplest and most straightforward interpretation with no contradictions regarding when the rapture occurs, which is on the Day of the Lord and 1 Thes. 4 & 5 describes the individual human spirits coming down to be reunited with their corresponding resurrected bodies coming upward! Again, the simplest exegesis has no contradictions ! However, I’ve never heard the theory that Daniel 9:26-27 has already been fulfilled, and the tribulation period is only 3 1/2 years. Not convinced yet, but this man is extremely knowledgeable about scripture and I must reexamine that theory.
If the new heaven and Earth comes on the day of the Lord, why then does Jesus say he's going to prepare a place for us if we're not even going to go there?
Point 2 As a Pre-Tribulation believer (although not directly related to salvation) Consider your interpretation of Rev.4-9 There will be more than one resurrection. After we are Raptured, many Luke warm and those left behind and new believers martyred in Christ's name, these are those you speak of. But those believers that make it through the tribulation will continue to populate the earth during the millennium.
In 1 Thessalonians 4:14 it makes way more sense that Jesus is not descending but in that verse it’s talking about him ascending into heaven with the ones who are asleep in him
Keep looking up your redemption draws near. YESHUA is coming back soon. Praise ADONAI. Pray for the peace of Jerusalem and for the JEWISH people the apple of ADONAI'S eye. MARANATHA. YESHUA died so you could live.
@@IanUnslaved Daniel's 70th week includes a destruction of Babylon by fire from heaven (Isa. 13:19-22; Jer. 51:26; Rev. 16:17-19; 18:8). This prophecy has never been literally fulfilled, making your statement impossible.
It depends on how you view the 1000 year reign. It could be that the rapture in Rev 20 is the “first resurrection” when Christ comes the first time and the 1000 year reign is the time of rewards in heaven until that period (prob symbolically, I don’t know) is over and then the second resurrection happens at the second coming. 1 Thessa 4 refers to the first resurrection as our blessed hope
The passage that says a king will rule for 1 hour is impossible to rule for that time but if you divide a 1000 years in 24 hours it gives 40. So just that kingdom can easily be a 40 year period completely negating a simple 7 year period.
As he mentioned Matthew, you don't harvest the weeds and you don't reap what you did not sow. The angels are the reapers of what is good, so they will reap the believers and leave the weeds (evil doers) and then that will be burned in the fire below.
Pre trib pre wedding Mathew 25:10 gathering Matthew 25:10 NKJV - “And while they went to buy, the bridegroom came, and those who were ready went in with him to the wedding; and the door was shut. Post trib post wedding Luke 12:36 NKJV - “and you yourselves be like men who wait for their master, when he will return from the wedding, that when he comes and knocks they may open to him immediately.
Sam should have also emphasised the fact that those who are raised during the first resurrection are the ones that were beheaded for refusing to take the mark of the beast, and worship his image during the Tribulation. This further demonstrates that the Rapture has to be a post Tribulation event.
It's the thousand years of Revelation Peter is referring to, saying that it could be a thousand years, more or less, before Jesus comes, but when he does, we will see the new heaven and new earth cleansed by fire. 1 Cor. 15:54 also puts God's kingdom on earth after we are changed in the twinkling of an eye. The verse takes you to Isaiah 25 explaining death is destroyed and a great feast is happening for all who have waited on the Lord, and with that the "New Covenant" will be reality.
Peter 2 verse 8 stands out to me as a very specific detail, like when watching a movie and somebody says something that just seems random only later be like "oh i see why they said that!" so if that the case then john is talking about the exact same thing as the other 3.
I feel like what Paul is saying is that the people who have died resurrect after they die (we just don't see it happen). And the people who are alive at the time the Lord comes will join those who already resurrected after death at that time.
Jesus specifically references as it shall be in the days of Noah, which is to be interpreted as a fragment of humanity being saved and carried through disaster and turmoil, not being let to endure the wrath of God. There are several other places in scripture where these similar things happen.
Consider - If the Church is not raptured, but goes through the Tribulation and someone takes the Mark of the Beast, will they go to hell as stated? Isn’t this contradicting verses that say we are saved? Underlying the anti pre trib rapture movement, there is a deficient understanding of the finished work of the Cross. This idea that we have to go through part of or all of the tribulation seems like a form of Protestant purgatory. That somehow, by enduring the tribulation horror, adds some kind of merit to the broken body and shed blood of the Savior. We believe that the Bible teaches that the Holy Spirit is using the Church to keep the Antichrist from appearing. His unique sin-restraining ministry, through God’s people, will be removed. At the rapture, the Church will be caught up to heaven with Jesus. First the dead in Christ and then the living. The secret power of lawlessness is already at work, but now Satan will be able to put the Antichrist into power and the great tribulation will begin. Evil is restrained right now; once the Church Age ends, the hindrance to evil will be removed, and the rebellion will seem to be winning; however, the ultimate doom of evil is sure. The Rapture is known as a mystery. The Rapture was revealed by Paul in 1 Corinthians 15 and it had never been revealed before (about 30 years after Christ's ascension). It is no longer a mystery. Paul revealed it and gave the timeline for it. The dating of the rapture is not given nor can it be deduced (Acts 1:7, 1 Thessalonians 5:1). According to God’s timetable, the Day of the Lord and the accompanying judgment will not start until two things happen: a global rebellion occurs and the Antichrist is revealed. Paul then mentions what is currently keeping the evil in check: “And now you know what is holding him back, so that he may be revealed at the proper time. For the secret power of lawlessness is already at work; but the one who now holds it back will continue to do so till he is taken out of the way. And then the lawless one will be revealed” (verses 6-8). Regardless of rapture or not, the more important thing is to love God and your neighbor.
I don't know if this is true , but. The sequence is taking the Mark , worshipping the beast , and his image. So is that one thing done all together or is it separate events. So could there be a time it's the Mark , people don't generally know it's of the devil , then they make demands on you and people start going wait a minute this is wrong it's of the devil. Are you still damned. I don't think God damns you for things you didn't know.
@@Harbringe Well read the 3 angel message Revelation 14 6 And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people, 7 Saying with a loud voice, Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment is come: and worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters. 8 And there followed another angel, saying, Babylon is fallen, is fallen, that great city, because she made all nations drink of the wine of the wrath of her fornication. 9 And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand, 10 The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb: 11 And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name. 12 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.
@@Harbringe Wait a minute, how come the power of the priest stops during the Tribulation? Why aren't you able to confess that sin to the priests then? That said, You make a good point, in fact, that is one of the reasons why born again Christians can't be here when that happens. Because either is work salvation or the Mark is only for the non believers which makes no sense at all. If Catholics like Sam are correct, then the Bible is wrong because if one takes the Mark goes to hell no questions asked. Meaning that if one is saved once, and stays saved always, the Mark would not affect him/her. But the Bible says that you lose salvation by taking the Mark. But Catholics do not have salvation until their last breath. In Catholicism you can't have a Rapture because of Purgatory. Are you telling me that Purgatory ends before the "Tribulation"? Therefore, Sam has to deny the rapture. I haven't seen the video yet but I know what he will say already. What say you? Now, to make matters worse for the Catholic, what is it with Jesus saying to do this and do that and be good and follow his teachings if, according to Catholic theology, only non-believers enter the kingdom? The only possible solution is God would create a "bubble" around Catholics to protect them against the wrath of God. Then, what is the point of going through it? I thought it was to cleanse their sins even further, wasn't it? Unless those who enter the kingdom are Catholics who are hiding, those who prepped so to speak but that is exactly the opposite of what the Bible portrays. In order to survive one must be selfish, running from danger rather than helping others or sharing the gospels because those are killed. Any clue on how to solve this conundrum?
It does say we will be taken out before the tribulation, because it says, #1 He comes as a thief; Revelation 16:15; Matthew 24:43, 50; 1 Thessalonians 5:2, 4,; 2 Peter 3:10. If we are getting our heads cut off, there will be no sneakiness to our Lord's return...There will be no surprise. #2 Jesus, in Matthew 24:38 and Luke 17:27 said, they were marrying and giving in marriage...I don't think, while we would be getting our heads chopped off, we would be partying and having weddings. To be clear, He is specifically speaking to "The Church"...Which if you don't know what that means, it's the Christians since Jesus' death and resurrection. "Tribulation Saints" are different. They actually do get their heads cut off... So trust Christ now to avoid that! #3 Also the same verses above, Jesus says it's like the flood of Noah...The non-believers were NOT expecting it, BUT NOAH AND HIS FAMILY WERE.... And God shut the door to the Ark while a JUDGEMENT came upon the earth. The ancient rabbis have a saying, "Prophecy is not prediction, it's pattern"....And we see that ALL throughout Scripture. But let me give us, few, true, members of the Church a warning... I say a "few" because Jesus says, when He returns, will He even find faith on the earth?...Indicating not many will make it in. I look at the modern American church and...yup, simply cultural Christians...There is no fear or reverence of God...I look at (most of) the Christians in the Middle East, and it's once again, cultural Christianity... You were "born Christian"...Your last name is Christian..Which is not how Scripture says you become a Christian. No one....virtually no one... believes the Bible is litteral anymore... Interesting that when Jesus, the apostles, and other Old Testament prophets quote other prophets, they took it literal... I'm so glad that we've evolved to a higher level of consciousness than them, so that we know God's Word is metaphorical...it's just allegorical. 😂 I'm being sarcastic, of course. God says what He means and means what He says... Of course 78% of American youth leave the church after they graduate from High school because the modern American church (2 Timothy 3:5) "Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof..." Jesus wasn't joking when He said, not many will make it in. In 2020, I had several Christian friends that were saying, were going to go into the tribulation and admittedly, I was starting to stress out , COVID was bad enough right?! But I was REALLY starting to think maybe they were right! I diligently took it to God in prayer and asked Him to show me the truth! And it was like He scolded me for me being afraid He was going to leave us during the Tribulation! He took me immediately to the resurrection in Luke 24:25..." Then he said unto them, O fools, and slow of heart to believe all that the prophets have spoken..." OUCH! He slapped me with that one! Please know and take comfort (but don't get lazy and comfortable), we are not going through the tribulation. What did the prophets tell us??? God saved the Jews from the plagues of Egypt; He had them hide in their homes ready to fly out of Egypt after the Death Angel passed over...and saw they were covered with the blood of the lamb on their homes...Oh, no, that doesn't sound familiar at all does it? ...Sorry, more sarcasm. Rehab and her family, Lot and his family, Noah and his family... Just note, all these situations, the believers knew what was coming and ONLY the non-believers were caught off guard! LOOK UP brothers and sisters! Our redemption draws near! Maranatha!!!❤🎉😊 Don't let Sam scare you on this one...but fear the Lord. But I do love and greatly appreciate you Sam😊...and don't worry if we disagree on this, I'll explain it to you on the way up!!!😂🎉
Please check out mine then. It's a bit of a read as it's in 3 parts but I try to thoroughly debunk Sam. I like Sam's work. I think he does a great job as an evangelist but his theology especially on Eschatology is so poor. Like I said,, I like Sam, but he does the Church and unbelievers a great disservice getting this topic so wrong. It's sad to watch. If you have trouble finding the 3 parts let me know and I can repost them. Take care.
@ "The prophecy of Jesus riding in on a donkey came true.. You know nothing." LOL. And you'll believe anything my dear. What prophecy ever gave detailed information? Why didn't the prophecy about jesus and the donkey state a time or a date? You really should start thinking for yourself my dear. Good luck.
There was, in fact, an earlier resurrection as we are told in Matthew 27:52-53, a pre-dawn resurrection described by Jesus in the parable of the Vineyard in Matthew 20. There were four other harvest groups in that same passage, meaning future saints who are yet to be gathered. As for Paul, he is only referring to the final two groups of harvest which are groups three (dead in Christ) and two, meaning those who are alive and remain. Trace this comment if you want to know more. God bless!
Here we go, another divine interpretation of the endtimes, one of many, every interpretation that comes out is supposedly the real deal, the confusion just keeps going and going and going.
@@stankomalceski9677 The word "Rapture" isn't in the bible. But those who feel the need to call it that, the true wording is "catch up to him". The Lord will catch us up to him when he returns.
@ the term catching away for believers to me makes no sense.in Hosea 6:3 says RAISE US UP TO LIVE IN HIS SIGHT.IN Thessalonians 4:16-18 the dead in Christ will rise first .Then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the lord in the air.
@@stankomalceski9677 Hosea 6 is about Israel, please read the context in Hosea 5 when has the Church ever been called "For I will be like a lion to Ephraim, And like a young lion to the house of Judah."? Never. please don't cause more confusion by creating contradictions that aren't there.
The prophecies of the messiah coming seemed ‘impossible’ in fulfilling :-coming as a conquering king and a suffering servant, of the house of David but not of the house of David because it was cursed, from the house of Levi but of the house of Judah, born in Bethlehem but from Egypt and Nazareth etc. who saw, two comings, born of Levi, adopted into Judah, born of a virgin, escaped to Egypt born in Bethlehem, lived in Nazareth etc. things that seem like a contradiction to us are not impossible to God, so although Sam may have some good points I don’t hold much weight to arguments that are structured ‘this is impossible so….’
@@stephenhorton2184 Armageddon and Christ's 1000-year reign has already come and gone. We are currently living in Satan's time of deception as described in Rev 20:8.
@@lorenzor124 cowardly hypocrite, spewing weak ass ad hominem attacks irrelevant to the statement I put forth. I bet you won't man up and try and counter my original statement.
Beloved brothers and sisters, please please I'm begging you, understand that the 7 years is from the baptism of the Messiah to the stoning of Stephen. Messiah was cut off right Square in the middle. Shalom❤
As a Catholic I’m impressed with you wisdom and communication skills. I think you are gifted by the Holy Ghost with knowledge. I don’t believe in the Rapture or the tribulation theories you mention here. After the resurrection of the dead at Christ’s Second Coming there won’t be (from what I understand the Bible teaches) a reign of 1000 years on earth. Earth is a place for the pre resurrection body and soul man. After death and being saved, no one would want to return to earthly life when Heaven is opened for the Saints.
@@jim8228 if you look at the impossible ancient architecture scattered around the globe, it makes a case for a physical worldwide kingdom. The architecture is impossible for us to recreate at the volume in which they were originally built and subsequently destroyed over the last 100 years.
There are 4 resurrections. One has already happened in concert with the resurrection of Jesus. Then the Church (Bride of Christ) is the 2nd. The 3rd is the one just before the 1000 year reign (The martyrs of the tribulation) and then last will be the resurrection of the dead before the Great Judgement. The Marriage Supper of the Lamb is in Rev 19 (before Jesus' return). How did the Bride get there? Also, how could the Armies follow Jesus on his return if they had not been resurrected (Also Rev. 19)?
Not gonna lie, I was thinking about Sam’s position on this earlier today while at work. He’s great when debating and I wondered if I’d have to part from him if he was a pretrib believer like 90% of Christian’s. And now I have my answer. god bless you Sam.
AMEN! I agree with you on almost everything "BRING WITH HIM..." simply means take with Him. There is no eternal soul. Only God has immortality. (1Tim6:16) Immortality is given to us when Christ returns (1Corth15:20; 51-55) Man became a living soul when God breathed into the man He formed in the dust... he became a living soul Gen2:7 (he did not exist before this, nor did he exist after he died,) He still sleeps in the grave as does King David (Acts 2:34) "WE SHALL NOT PRECEDE THOSE WHO ARE ASLEEP..." meaning we shall not precede those who are asleep (in death) Hebrews 11:8-10; 39-40
Revelation 19:1, and after these things I heard a great voice of MUCH PEOPLE IN HEAVEN, saying, Alleluia; salvation, and glory, and honour, and power, unto the Lord our God. If they're IN THE Heaven,then they can only be God's people,,, and in verse's 5&6,,,a voice from the throne said,,,,,, praise our God, All ye servants and ye that fear him,both small and great,vs 6,(John),, and I heard as it were the voice of a great multitude, and as the voice of Many waters, and as the voice of mighty thunderings, saying, Alleluia: for the Lord God omnipotent reigneth.,,, chapter 20:4, and I saw thrones, and they that set upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads,or in their hands;, and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years. These are all God's people raised in the first resurrection on which the second death hath no power and they will reign with Christ as priests of God and of Christ for a thousand years.
Well done Sam. You nailed it! That's why Catholics and Orthodox do not interpret scripture in isolation, but draw their understanding from Apostolic teaching. Not like Protestants who are constantly trying to reinvent the wheel of doctrines long defined by the Church and transmitted through Apostolic succession. As Cardinal Newman said, to go into history is to cease to be Protestant.
You just denied the power of Holy Spirit and called Jesus a liar as He said; "But when he, the Spirit of truth, comes, he will guide you into ALL the truth." John 16:13 The Truth is not reserved for "Cardinals" or "Theologians". Is available for all faithful believers, with the only condition - obedience to Jesus teaching: “If you hold to my teaching, you are really my disciples. Then you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free.” John 8:31 So, we are not free because we don't know the Truth, and we don't know the Truth because we don't obey Christ Law (Jesus teaching).
"but draw their understanding from Apostolic teaching. " Do what "Apostolic Teachings" and what is taught in science class coincide? If not which is the more reliable and truthful?
Yes there are false doctrines in Protestism but Protestism itself was a response to the false doctrines and practices brought in by the Catholic Church , what your going to tell me indulgences are scriptural or the office of the pope is scriptural and many more. Then there is the wars the Catholic Church engaged in throughout its history and your going to tell me that's scriptural.
@@TboneWTFNONE God’s Word is the only source of Truth Everything else is a lie Look at the temptation in Eden or “wilderness” Even during the life of Apostles there were false teachers
@@edwardsolecki6036 Denied the power of the Holy Spirit...?! What on earth are you saying?! 🤷♀You're just quoting randomly and not making any sense! 😏
I came to the same conclusion. The Lord says,... when you see the abomination of desolation...It means we see the Antichrist defile the temple at the half way point. Means no pre trib. Then in revelation it says,.. these are those who came out of tribulation..referring to martyrs of the tribulation. Well, you can't have martyrs if they are taken. There's only one second comming. This means he picks us up right before the battle.
The misunderstanding comes from people not understanding the 4 different types of people Jesus always referrs to. People dead in Christ, people still alive in Christ, people dead in sin and people alive in sin. The rapture is not the same as the second coming people. Thats for the Jews and those who never took the mark
post trib.... those who were made saints in the tribulation will rise up and then those faithful servants who are still alive will also rise up to meet the Lord
I listen with great interest to the biblical studies of the Messianic Jewish brothers, Baruch Korman and Amir Tsarfati, so I agree with what they explain to us! If others come with their opinions, but who do not study the Scriptures in the original languages and according to the culture in which they were written (the Hebrew one), all interpretations are actually according to the culture of the church to which the one giving his opinion belongs! This is what this gentleman does, trying to justify his church!
It doesn't make any sense. How can this day be unexcpected when there is an ANTCHRIST on earth, mark of the beast, all mountains and islands are removed from the planet, angels preached the gospel etc. HOW CAN SOMEONE NOT NOTICE
Just like those who weren't prepared for the flood. Some of these are terms representing God coming in his Glory and Power. I'm many perceived the Anti-Christ as he is who would follow? Angels can show up in the image of a man.
If you can pinpoint even the century in which it happens it's not unexpected. And how can people think it's piece when earthquake just destroyed all mountains and sank all islands?
@Sam i am always blessed by your content, but on this have a good look at the Bible. Jesus gave a summary of the book of Revelation in Mathew 24 and in Mark 13 which talks about the great tribulation being cut short for the sake of the elect. This agrees with Revelation 7:13-14, Rev 11, Rev12, Rev13. The 3 and half years, 1230 days and 42 months all talk about the same period.
I appreciate the explanation of Sam here. I would also like to hear about the great tribulations. There are 7 tribulations that are mentioned in the bible. They are mentioned chronologically. I think they have to happen before the final judgment comes.
@@TboneWTF A motherhood statement without proofs is useless. Can you tell me your beliefs instead? Let's see if your beliefs can stand scrutiny. Don't tell me what you don't believe. Tell me what you believe.
@ " Don't tell me what you don't believe. Tell me what you believe." Are you stating that science does not show that Genesis is a lye? Lets stay on topic here. if you are refuting my comment please point out exactly what is correct in what Genesis claims and support what you believe with evidence? Good luck.
@@TboneWTF Explain in science how life began. Genesis mentioned how life began. The big bang doesn't contradict the bible. As I have guessed, you don't have any beliefs at all. What you have is disbelieve in God but you have no alternative belief that is fool proof. I want the details on how life began according to your own knowledge. Scientists cannot create life from non-life (aka abiogenesis) until now. If you are really a man of science you would accept the result of the experiments because the result of the experiments are the facts. Everything else is wishful thinking.
The 1000 years feels like a day and a day like 1000 years, maybe the day of the lord is 1000 years of burning and rebuilding the new world. But in our new bodies we will feel the same 1000 years feels like a day and a day like 1000 years
Part 2/3 Now let's dive into Scripture. There are some basic rules to Bible prophecy. #1 it's always literal. Even when there are symbols and "years" once you use Scripture to interpret these symbols the prophecy will be completed literally. Jesus fulfilled over 100 prophecies literally. Jesus went to extraordinary lengths to show us how specific Bible prophecy is fulfilled. In Matt 21 He sends the Disciples to get a specific donkey for Him to ride into Jerusalem from Zechariah 9:9 “Rejoice greatly, O daughter of Zion! Shout, O daughter of Jerusalem! Behold, your King is coming to you; He is just and having salvation, Lowly and riding on a donkey, A colt, the foal of a donkey." That specific donkey was chosen to fulfil this prophecy exactly as it was written. Matt 21: Now when they drew near Jerusalem, and came to Bethphage, at the Mount of Olives, then Jesus sent two disciples, 2 saying to them, “Go into the village opposite you, and immediately you will find a donkey tied, and a colt with her. Loose them and bring them to Me. 3 And if anyone says anything to you, you shall say, ‘The Lord has need of them,’ and immediately he will send them.” 4 All this was done that it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the prophet, saying: 5 “Tell the daughter of Zion, ‘Behold, your King is coming to you, Lowly, and sitting on a donkey, A colt, the foal of a donkey.’ ” 6 So the disciples went and did as Jesus commanded them. 7 They brought the donkey and the colt, laid their clothes on them, and set Him on them. Jesus in John 13:19 says 19 "Now I tell you before it comes, that when it does come to pass, you may believe that I am." This doesn't mean ALL of Scripture is literal, it means ALL of Bible prophecy is literal. 1 Cor 15:3-4 3 For I delivered to you first of all that which I also received: that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures, 4 and that He was buried, and that He rose again the third day according to the Scriptures..." Did Jesus literally live, die, was buried and rose again bodily? Yes. "According to the Scriptures" which was the Old Testament (since they didn't have the NT). We are to take prophecy literally Deut 18: what is predicted will come to pass or it's not from the LORD. Genesis 7- 11 In the six hundredth year of Noah’s life, in the second month (2nd month), the seventeenth day of the month (17th day), on that day all the fountains of the great deep were broken up, and the windows of heaven were opened. Genesis 8: 3 And the waters receded continually from the earth. At the end of the hundred and fifty days (150 days) the waters decreased. 4 Then the ark rested in the seventh month (7th month), the seventeenth day of the month (17th day), on the mountains of Ararat. From 2nd month 17th day to 7th month 17th day = 5 months of 150 days = 30 days per month. Isaiah 66:23 And it shall come to pass That from one New Moon to another (30 days- 29.5 according to NASA), And from one Sabbath to another, All flesh shall come to worship before Me,” says the Lord. Daniel 9:25-26 (I am copying a reply I sent to a Jewish man but it shows Prophecy uses a 360 day calendar, it's using the Orthodox Jewish translation) 25 Have da’as, therefore, and get seichel, that from the going forth of the decree to restore and to rebuild Yerushalayim (Jerusalem) unto Moshiach Nagid (Messiah Prince) shall be shivah (seven) heptads (weeks) and threescore (3x20= 60) and two heptads (2 weeks); the rechov shall be built again, and the charutz, even in troublous times. (7 weeks) and (62 weeks) = 69 weeks out of 70 weeks (verse 24) 26 And after threescore and two heptads (62 weeks), yikaret (will be cut off) Moshiach [Yeshayah 53:8], but not for himself This tells us that 69 weeks or 173,880 days from the "decree to rebuild Jerusalem" 445 BC (found in Nehemiah 2:1-6) www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/timeline-for-the-history-of-jerusalem-4500-bce-present 445-425 BCE - Nehemiah the Prophet Rebuilds the Walls of Jerusalem; City Confined to Eastern Hill to the Messiah will be "yikaret" (cut off, cut down, killed, destroyed, or perish,) Add 173,880 days which is Nisan (Passover) 32AD 26 And after threescore and two heptads, yikaret (will be cut off killed) Moshiach [Yeshayah 53:8], but not for himself 69 weeks of years = 483 years x 360 days per year in 173,880 days from the decree to rebuild Jerusalem to the killing of Messiah the Prince. Nehemiah 2:1 says the decree went out Nisan 445 BC. 173,880 days into our Gregorian calendar of 365.25 days per year is 476.0575 years. Nisan 445 BC- Nisan 1 BC = 444 years (476.0575 -444 =32.0575) Nisan 1 AD +32.0575 = 32 AD Nisan 1+ .0575 (21 Days) = Nisan 22 (Passover) 32AD the killing of Messiah the Prince but not for Himself. And the next part of the verse 26 says the Messiah the Prince needs to be cut off BEFORE the destruction of the Temple and Jerusalem. “And after the sixty-two weeks Messiah shall be cut off, but not for Himself; And the people of the prince who is to come Shall destroy the city and the sanctuary. (70AD) (end of study) So 1 week is 7 years with the years being 360 days per year or = 2,520 days because we know how to calculate the 69 weeks prior. Daniel 9:27 says this week is divided in half 2- 3.5 years. Now knowing Revelation was written post 70AD this will show why the 70th week was not fulfilled before or at 70AD. In Revelation 11:1-2 we see the new Temple being built, as the one Jesus walked out of in Matthew 24:1-2 has been destroyed. Second, Rev 11:3 says 3 And I will give power to my two witnesses, and they will prophesy 1,260 days, clothed in sackcloth.” 1,260 days is important because it's exactly 3.5 years when using a 360 day calendar. So in Revelation 11:3 have we ever seen 2 invincible witnesses preach for 3.5 years or 1,260 days in Jerusalem? No. Have we then seen the killed and lay in the streets for 3.5 days? No. Have we seen them then resurrected and taken up to Heaven? No. This is all spelled out in Revelation 11. Rev 11:7 When they (2 invincible witnesses) finish their testimony (1,260 days or 3.5 years), the beast that ascends out of the bottomless pit will make war against them, overcome them, and kill them. Rev 13:1 the beast arises - verse 3b "And all the world marveled and followed the beast. 4 So they worshiped the dragon who gave authority to the beast; and they worshiped the beast, saying, “Who is like the beast? Who is able to make war with him?” 5 And he was given a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies, and he was given authority to continue for forty-two months. 6 Then he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme His name, His tabernacle, and those who dwell in heaven. 7 It was granted to him to make war with the saints and to overcome them. And authority was given him over every tribe, tongue, and nation." the beast was given authority over the earth for 42 months or 3.5 years. 2 witnesses preach for 3.5 years then they are killed by a "beast" and the beast is given authority over the earth for 3.5 years. = a 7 year timeframe. That early Christians verify that's what they taught. This isn't rocket science. Had Christians read and studied the Bible from Genesis they would see the Bible uses a 360 day calendar. When you get to Daniel you see Jesus was crucified Nisan 32 AD using a 360 day calendar for 69 weeks. Then knowing this you see 1 week the 70th week is separate after the destruction of the Temple and Jerusalem in 70AD then verse 27 begins. So there is a 7 year period of 2,520 days (7 x 360 days) divided into 2. 2 periods of 1,260 days. Then we see in Revelation 11 which was written post 70AD about 2 invincible witnesses reaching for 1,260 days (the first half of the 70th week) and then the "beast" whoever he is kills them which no one else could and in Rev 13 reigns over the earth for 42 months or 3.5 years for a total of 7 years. Why Christians repeat this nonsense of no 7 year period I will never understand it is such absurdity and shows such a lack of biblical literacy. So now we have a data point. Revelation 11 begins the 70th week or 7 years before the 2nd Coming of Jesus. Revelation 4:1 After these things I looked, and behold, a door standing open in heaven. And the first voice which I heard was like a trumpet speaking with me, saying, “Come up here, and I will show you things which must take place after this.” (The future from 95AD) In Revelation 5 we see Jesus is given a scroll with 7 Seals. Revelation 6 we see Seals 1,2,3,4,5,6 broken in numerical order. Rev 8:1 Seal 7 is broken. Rev 8:2 AFTER Seal 7, we are introduced to 7 Trumpets Rev 8:7 Trumpet 1 is blown and through Rev 9 we see Trumpets 1,2,3,4,5,6 are blown in numerical order. Rev 11:3 the 2 witnesses preach for 1,260 days they are killed, resurrected and ascend then in Rev 11:15 Trumpet 7 is blown. This is an important order to understand. Seal 6 is BEFORE Seal 7 which is BEFORE Trumpet 1 Which is BEFORE Trumpet 6 Which is BEFORE the 7 years or 70th week begins in Rev 11. So there is a 7 year period called the 70th week in Scripture. (Continued in Part 3)
So using this same exact argument you’re using Sam . Please answer me, were does it say to pray to Mary? Where does it say to chant a memorized prayer? Where does it say to converse with spirits?
The problem as I see it is people are to locked into the 7's being consecutive and concurrent without taking any of the physical aspects into account. Below I've provided the most realistic and logical view of what is happening and about to happen: Below would be a true post tribulation scenario and provides an answer to what damages the sun, it allows for the heavens and stars to still be available for the 4th trumpet (common current thesis(s) do not). Seals 1-5 (prior and leading up to Daniel's 70th week, birth pains that give birth to the tribulation) Trumpets 1-5 (peace, peace from the war, then the end will come, these events cause the damage during the 1st 3.5 years, with Abaddon coming out from the abyss) (the 4th trumpet causes the damage to the sun) Bowls 1-5 (these are the effects of the trumpets occurring the next 3.5 years) Seal 6, trumpet 6, bowl 6 (I believe Rev 16:15 is clear, Jesus Himself is stating He has not returned, and this statement is after the 6th bowl) 7th seal (rapture) 7th trumpet, & bowl. And please remember everything takes time to unfold, no snapping of fingers and poof it's all done.
@@Gary-nl2rd Armageddon and Christ's 1000-year reign has already come and gone. We are currently living in Satan's time of deception as described in Rev 20:8.
Matthew 13:30 Let both grow together until the harvest. At that time I will tell the harvesters: First collect the weeds and tie them in bundles to be burned; then gather the wheat and bring it into my barn.’” APOLLOS TO HIERASTHENES, GREETING.- 1 TOUCHING the matter whereby thou didst enquire in thy last epistle, I will inform thee even as I have received. I Appollos was in my house in Nazareth after the Holy City had been taken by the Romans, and the Temple of God destroyed, even as the Lord had told us. 2 And as the sun went down and I was resting from my work, the room was filled with a bright light and there appeared unto me Agella., my sister (who had been reported as dead with many others of the brethren who were in the Holy City at the time of the siege and who have never since been seen by any to this day). 3 And Agella spake to me saying, BROTHER, why grievest thou for me, and for the fall of Ierusalem and for the Holy House. Grieve rather that thou wast left behind when we with others of the brethren who were ready were taken up from the earth. 4 For when the city was sorely besieged and the battle was the most fierce and the confusion great and terrible, there was seen by all a great wonder in the heavens. 5 For the Lord himself appeared from the clouds with her to whom he first appeared after he rose from the dead, who announced his resurrection to the twelve, and the holy angels, according to the word that he Spake unto us while he was in the flesh. 6 And we who sore longed for deliverance and were ready for his appearance were caught up to him in the clouds with Iohn, who alone of the twelve remained (whether in the body or out of the body I knew not). 7 It was in a moment and we were changed in the twinkling of an eye, and those who were his enemies saw it and fled in great confusion and fell on the swords of the Romans and perished, and to me alone has it been given that I should appear unto thee for thy comfort my brother, and for the consolation of those that are left behind and those that shall come after them, that they may believe in the words spoken by the Lord before he suffered. 8 Farewell brother, and go and comfort those that are left, for there will arise those who will deny that he returned as he said, because none of those who saw his appearance are left behind to witness thereof. 9 But believe thou that the Christ shall return again at the end of the Age in glory. 10 AND I arose and went to some of the brethren and told them these things, but they seemed to them as an idle tale, for they answered, If thy sister and the others were taken, why have we been left behind in the misery of this world? Surely they have fallen by the sword also, and it was a vision, and we which are left behind shall perish likewise? 11 And I returned to my home and held my peace, for I was in doubt, and said, If the thing is true it will be brought to light in a future day, for the Lord certainly did say that "before this generation should pass away all these things should be," even as my sister hath told me they have been. 12 They who are with me salute thee. Peace be with thee, and to all in thine house.
The first resurrection began with Christ as Firstfruits. The main harvest is 1 thes 4:16-17 and rev 20:4 is the gleaning. Notice rev 20:4 who is resurrected. Only the beheaded who didn't take the mark or worships the beast. Where is everyone else?
I had a thought that he said the day of the lord and 1000 years feels like a day and a day like 1000 years. Maybe when we get our new bodies and we are in the air it feels like a day, but it's really 1000 years passing on earth and that is the lake of fire as the new earth is being formed from the fire
Is it safe to assume that, as 1k years is 1 day for God, Jesus' 2nd coming includes the Resurrection, His reign, satan's biding and the Final Judgement all in one day?
I agree , most people don't read the bible, they just repeat what others say, with that said, I would like to know why people skip to the last trumpet and no one talks about the sign of Jonah, the Lord promised to send or where it talk's about before the Lord comes back, he says, that Elias shall truly come first and restore all things, meaning our mind's will be cleansed of evil spirit's, this will happen before the last trumpet and I still don't know where it says 7 year's. But good job brother of pointing this out. I just call myself a Christian, kinda of tired of these different denominations. God bless
also Matthew 13 40-43 is describing the final day talked about by peter, paul, and john. the weeds being pulled up is the same as when he burns up the night before the new kingdom. righteous called up that day and when nightfalls and choas is among the earth bc people have zero clue why people just vanished and once night falls its game over for the remaining wickedness. same sequence as the other authors. Righteous called/ Evil destroyed/ new heaven and earth!
I think we have a misunderstanding of the resurrection. Jesus referred to His coming to life again simply as "rising again". The dead in Christ coming to life again was referred to as "rising". And Jesus went up to heaven, and the dead in Christ who will rise again in 1 Thessalonians 4:16 will be with those who had been alive whose bodies were changed into incorruptible which might be the multitude in heaven, Revelation 7:9-17. Resurrection seems to be about coming to life again, "to live on earth", those who were beheaded in the tribulation, and MAYBE all those who had been martyred in faithfulness to Jesus Christ, who will live in the millennium, the first resurrection, Revelation 20:6. And the second resurrection, will be for judgement, those who will be sent to hell, and those who will be on the new earth. And the "sanctified" church, the bride of Christ, MAY come down with the new Jerusalem, Revelation 21:2 Jesus said to pray to be able "to escape" all that is about to happen and be able to stand before Him, Luke 21:36; Revelation 7:14 may have meant those who came out to escape the tribulation, because they had lived in the Spirit, sanctified lives, 2 Thessalonians 2:13, Galatians 5:16-25, 1 Thessalonians 4:3-8. The 5 virgins taken by the bridegroom, Matthew 25:1-13
So is the thousand year reign in Revelation 20:4 simply the day of the Lord? As it says in 2nd Peter 3:8 "With the Lord a day is like a thousand years and a thousand years are like a day?
I believe in pre-wrath rapture. Not pre-tribulation rapture. Nothing in the Bible indicates that the tribulation as a whole is the wrath of God that we will get saved from. The tribulation is mainly the beast's/satans short period of rule, not Gods wrath. The wrath of God will happen during the tribulation, probably in the end.
Amazing how many brilliant Bible scholars seem to be here in the comments!
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Actually, it might be better to be a theologian than a scholar on this topic. I know they often overlap but most Bible scholars have specific areas of study say the NT or the Gospels, etc. Whereas theologians are more of a study on comprehensive study on doctrines using all of Scripture, such as this one of Eschatology. So if you're interested I have posted a 3 part comment because as much as I like Sam and his evangelistic talents, his theology on this topic is poor. It's not an attack on him, he's jut not well educated on it and it's sad to watch.
Sam is great at apologetics but not this area of theology and to me it hurts the other work he does. I don't know why Christians always feel they have to have every answer even when they're clearly guessing. "I don't know" is an acceptable answer. My comment is 3 parts because I want to thoroughly debunk Sam and establish a solid foundation of biblical context. Let me know if you are unable to find it. Take care.
@@mbfrommb3699 If your so “correct”why don’t you just debate Sam himself.
@@sammymadethis I would for sure. I'd love to debate anyone. Here's the problem. Why we love Sam is because of his confidence and that he takes it to the false religions aggressively. He also does this with Christians which I don't agree with but that's who he is. He talks over them. My concern is I'm not a public debater. Teaching and writing this stuff out is my forte. So if I or he stumbled do you think Sam or I would let the other go on without pointing some random error? Probably not.
One of the other issues is that a debate would require beginning in Genesis. If you don't see GOD's wrath coming on the earth again, from Genesis 6,18,19 you're not going to see the reality of the Rapture, the separation of the righteous from the unrighteous.
If you see GOD’s wrath coming in Scripture then you have to ask why does GOD’s wrath come? Ezekiel 38:18-23, because Israel is faced with annihilation. What Sam also misses is that Israel isn’t about the Jews or what they believe. Israel is about GOD. GOD owns the land of Israel, and the city of Jerusalem, always has always will.
Leviticus 25:23 the Jews are His guests, visitors “sojourners” but it’s His land. 2 Chronicles 6:5-6 Jerusalem is His. Joel 3:1-2, Psalm 121:4 Isaiah 45:3 He calls Himself the GOD of Israel. His wrath comes because Jihadists gather to destroy Israel (including Iran and Turkey) and take Jerusalem for the glory of their false god Allah. And the LORD won’t allow it. It has nothing to do with whether the Jews believe in Jesus or not. Many Jews believe in GOD -Yahweh, Jihadists don’t. So trying to get Sam to see all these branches he currently doesn’t would make it difficult to debate because we’d just end up in a mess, I think.
Prophecy isn't up for debate either it'll come to pass as I have laid out or it won't. I laid the path out for people to watch.
What makes me "correct" is reality when it comes to pass. Seeing reality in Scripture coming to pass allows me to see the correct method of how we got here. I have tracked over 100 prophecies in my lifetime. So that evidence has allowed me to learn the rules and understand Scripture better but prophecy is still about the future. So debating a future that hasn't happened yet is not easy.
For example, I see Revelation 6-19 as all the events leading to the 2nd Coming of Jesus. That we will have the 7 Seals first 1,2,3,4,5,5,6,7 in order. Then the Trumpets 1,2,3,4,5,6,7 in order. Then the first 3.5 year (Rev11) Then Satan will be kicked out of Heaven to earth and he will bring His wrath a well as the LORD's (Rev 16:1) and war will come to humanity which is the great tribulation (final 3.5 years) Rev 13-19.
Jesus will return.
Jesus said He will return at the worst possible time ever in human history where humanity is about to cause it's own self-extinction.
Matthew 24 NLT
21 For there will be greater anguish than at any time since the world began. And it will never be so great again. 22 In fact, unless that time of calamity is shortened, not a single person will survive. But it will be shortened for the sake of God’s chosen ones....29 “Immediately after the anguish of those days, the sun will be darkened,
the moon will give no light,
the stars will fall from the sky,
and the powers in the heavens will be shaken. 30 And then at last, the sign that the Son of Man is coming will appear in the heavens, and there will be deep mourning among all the peoples of the earth. And they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory."
You either see how humanity will bring itself to the brink of self extinction via war or you don't. You either see GOD's wrath coming again on the earth (which means that GOD removes the righteous first before Rev 6 and Rev 16 when His wrath comes) or you don't.
This view is directly opposed to Preterism because it's yet to come. It directly opposes Post-Millennialism because Christians aren't ruling the world when Jesus comes. It directly opposes Amillennialism because GOD's wrath on the earth is not part of that view.
It directly opposes Post Trib because GOD's wrath comes twice requiring GOD to remove all the righteous from the earth first (Rapture).
IF 2025 is the year the 7 years start (my guess is in fall) we should if we were here see over 1/3 of humanity Raptured and killed by war this year. That is a hard reality to accept but that shows how anchored we are to this world. Nations all over the earth are collapsing, millions and millions of people are suffering and because some Western Christians don't feel the economic pain well it can't be as bad as I'm saying. I must be exaggerating how bad things are. That GOD is allowing the world to fall into chaos and war to have millions come to Him before we're taken by Rapture or death.
Jesus had 1 message, it wasn't morality.
John 6:38 For I have come down from heaven, not to do My own will, but the will of Him who sent Me. 39 This is the will of the Father who sent Me, that of all He has given Me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up at the last day. 40 And this is the will of Him who sent Me, that everyone who sees the Son and believes in Him may have everlasting life; and I will raise him up at the last day.”
When we become believers GOD will use us in any way via struggles, sickness, death to bring others to Himself. Well He's going to use all these things in 2025 and it'll be even harder for Christians this year than in the past. Many will lose faith. This is not a narrative and understanding many will believe. 2 Chronicles 7:14 shows us that GOD will heal our land or won't because of our wickedness not the wickedness of the lost. Well He won't heal our lands and it's because of the wickedness of the Church. Sodom and Gomorrah would have been spared despite al their sins had there been 10 righteous. There wasn't. The problem wasn't the level of sin, it was the lack of righteous people. As the world is judged and the West falls it'll be because of a lack of righteous people. The lack of righteous people allows sin to grow and the punishment of sin to overtake a land.
It seems that the more we see Bible prophecy unfold the more blinded the Church becomes as a whole. The world is literally preparing for global war and Christians are talking about culture? The lost world is wanting someone to help them make sense of the insanity and yet Christians aren’t saying look the Bible has predicted all these events showing GOD is real and Jesus is the way. No they argue against it with other Christians. I am not here to date-set. I am here to point to the giant flashing warnings Jesus says to watch for to know the season. You either see it or you don’t. I just don’t know how to debate that.
If I had the chance though I would love to try. I don't want Christians to lose faith as the days get darker, I want them to have hope, to have their faith strengthened amongst the chaos to know our KING is Coming for us. For those who are covered by His blood. To go out and share Jesus and pray for the lost knowing the moment we those who have been given His righteousness are removed/separated from the unrighteous the world will experience Hs wrath Rev 6:14-17. This is why I don't try to predict the date of the Rapture. Because I know there is a balance only GOD knows between how long He will hold His wrath back while people are coming to Him to be saved. I don't know when the moment will be that He says "enough" but it's coming. I hope this helps. Take care.
All i know is that jesus resurrected on the third day, and is coming back, thats good enough for me..
"All i know is that jesus resurrected on the third day, " With out using the bible prove to me that jesus was the son of god? Good luck.
@@TboneWTF If you really want to know about Jesus try to think different. Let’s say you’re a Judge in court and a man’s life is on the line you have the power to save the man’s life or have him executed. They bring forth several eye witnesses saying he’s innocent. If you’re a fair judge would you not hear their testimony and save a life? That’s what the Bible is and that’s how God chose to communicate with us.
@ " Let’s say you’re a Judge in court and a man’s life is on the line " A Jury of 12 peers decides the outcome of a person depending on how valid and credible the evidence is. Any well schooled defense attorney will eliminate or draw question to any eyewitness. Regardless, we are not discussing natural claims and events from reality. This is a supernatural event and eye witnesses are not enough to confirm it's validity. Are you saying it isn't possible that these witnesses may have been mistaken?
@ " Let’s say you’re a Judge in court and a man’s life is on the line " A group of 12 people decides the outcome depending on how valid and credible the evidence is. Any well schooled defense attorney will eliminate or draw question to any eyewitness. Regardless, we are not discussing natural claims and events from reality. This is a supernatural event and eye witnesses are not enough to confirm it's validity. Are you saying it isn't possible that these witnesses may have been mistaken?
@ " Let’s say you’re a Judge in court and a man’s life is on the line " A group of 12 people decides the outcome depending on how valid and credible the evidence is. Any well schooled defense attorney will eliminate or draw question to any eyewitness. Regardless, we are not discussing natural claims and events from reality. This is a supernatural event and eye witnesses are not enough to confirm it's validity. Are you saying it isn't possible that these witnesses may have been mistaken?
Thirty years ago, God gave me a dream showing me this day. It was before I became a Christian. The vision terrified me so much, I told a woman at work about it, and she said, " You described exactly what is in the Bible." I didn't believe her. I went to the bookstore to find a Bible, and when I read the passage, the hairs on my arm stood on end. What happened was it was afternoon, and I went downstairs to the dining room. The clock said 12pm. It was broad daylight. Then all of a sudden it became pitch black, and the stars began to roll up, as if they were going down a drain. I looked beside me, and I saw my roommate was next to me. I suddenly knew she would not be able to look at what was coming. I told her to cover her eyes, and then I looked back up to the sky. It was a light appearing. It was God. I then looked back at her, and she was on her knees, and her spirit inside her eyes was on fire, but her body was intact. She was in torment. Just when I was going to lament, I was taken up into the sky. I became very large. Then I woke up. It was a very intense dream. I was not religious nor was I a Christian. It was over a decade later God gave me the Holy Spirit. I thought all of this stuff was just a fairy tale. I don't think that anymore.
Lets go! God is good!
U should asked him what bible u should use
@MrIgnorance May you receive the power of love.
@@Gatteleylife9957 do u Care re to explain....
I mean I really need some money right now....
U can't do nothing with love today but money can buy happiness or rent love
@@MrIgnorance Money cannot buy life. You can live all your life searching for money and die or you can search the Lord and have eternal life.
One day, you will no more be on this earth and money cannot buy you back. The question is : Material things brings you true hapiness that last forever or will it stop at one point and you'll need more and more ?
I thank GOD for His unconditional love and His compassion. I love The Lord and express my love to Him every day. 💜💜💜
Oh boy, another divine interpretation of the tribulation sequence, my humble advice, just be spiritually ready, doing God's will and obeying His word, preaching the gospel to all who will listen.
It gives me comfort at the end of the day that there are old grannies and grandpas who love the Lord humbly and don’t understand anything but the Love of Jesus. Meek and gentle and innocent. Not understanding theology and rebuttal. I agree with you. Be ready for simply Loving the Lord he will do what needs to be done wether you understand it or not.
@@BeforeAllAgesI like what you have said; reassuring and hopeful. Thank you
Scripture does say study to show yourself approved does it not.
Matthew 24:29Immediately after the tribulation of those days.
Yes…😂
9:09 Sam, brother I love you, I've listened to you for over a decade. You are wrong here. The seven years referring to revelation and the 3.5 years is not only revelation but also found in Daniel. You must take the whole Word of God my brother.
Thank you, i was about to say Sam is kinda holding back not telling everything.
I see where you coming from, but Sam’s argument is actually grounded in taking the whole Word of God seriously. While the seven years are often linked to Daniel 9:27, there’s no explicit mention of a seven-year tribulation in Revelation. The 'time, times, and half a time' (3.5 years) in Revelation is clear, but doubling that to make seven years is an assumption, not something stated in the text. Daniel 9:27, as Sam explained, fits the historical context of the Jewish-Roman War (66-73 AD) and the destruction of the Temple. When we read the Bible without imposing modern dispensational frameworks, Sam’s points actually hold up very well. I’d encourage a closer look at how these passages are interpreted historically and contextually.
@@sammymadethis Part 1/2 Actually Sam is not correct and I will prove it. First, there's some basic facts that Revelation was written post 70AD. Irenaeus confirms this who in his writings "Against Heresies" Book V Chapter 30
"We will not, however, incur the risk of pronouncing positively as to the name of Antichrist; for if it were necessary that his name should be distinctly revealed in this present time, it would have been announced by him who beheld the apocalyptic vision. For that was seen no very long time since, but almost in our day, towards the end of Domitian's reign.
St. Irenaeus. Against Heresies (p. 495). Veritatis Splendor Publications. Kindle Edition.
Domitian's reign of which the John beheld the Apocalyptic vision was 95-96 AD as Domitian's reign lasted from 81-96AD after 70AD and the destruction of the Temple and Jerusalem.
Irenaeus was discipled by Polycarp and Polycarp was directly discipled by the Apostle John. Now we don't have to take early Christians word on things but Irenaeus who was 1 degree from the Apostle John wrote
Irenaeus (about 180 AD) wrote his 5 volume work called “Against Heresies”
“In 2 Thessalonians, the ‘falling away’ is an apostasy and there will be a literal rebuilt temple. In Matthew, the ‘abomination spoken by Daniel’ is the Antichrist sitting in the temple as if he were Christ. The abomination will start in the middle of Daniel’s 70th week and last for a literal three years and six months. The little horn is the Antichrist. Against Heresies 5.25
Irenaeus discipled Hippolytus who wrote over 100 chapters over 2 books on this topic alone:
Hippolytus (170-235 AD) wrote a 67 section/ chapter writing called "The Antichrist - a Treatise on Christ and Antichrist" "Now we must consider the question at hand, letting the previous introduction suffice. We must find out what the Holy Scriptures teach about: the occasion and time of the coming of Antichrist what tribe he comes from what his name is (from the number 666 in Scripture) how he shall work error among the people, gathering them from the ends of the earth his tribulation and persecution against the saints how he glorifies himself as God. What his end shall be the Lord’s sudden appearing revealed from heaven the conflagration of the whole world the glorious and heavenly kingdom of the saints when they reign together with Christ the punishment of the wicked by fire." Section 5-Prophecy introduction. Continued in his writing… "Now Daniel will set forth this subject to us. For he says, “And one week will make a covenant with many, and it shall be that in the midst of the week my sacrifice and oblation shall cease.” Daniel 9:27 By one week, therefore, he meant the last week which is to be at the end of the whole world, of which week the two prophets Enoch and Elias will take up the half. For they will preach 1,260 days clothed in sackcloth, proclaiming repentance to the people and to all the nations." ...For John says, “And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth.” Revelation 11:3 That is the half of the week that Daniel spoke about. “These are the two olive trees and the two candlesticks standing before the Lord of the earth. And if any man will hurt them, fire will proceed out of their mouth, and devour their enemies; and if any man will hurt them, he must in this manner be killed. These have power to shut heaven, that it rain not in the days of their prophecy; and have power over waters, to turn them to blood, and to smite the earth with all plagues as often as they will.” Revelation 11:4-6 And when they shall have finished their course and their testimony, what does the prophet say? “the beast that ascendeth out of the bottomless pit shall make war against them, and shall overcome them, and kill them,” Revelation 11:7 because they will not give glory to Antichrist. For this is meant by the little horn that grows up. He, being now elated in heart, begins to exalt himself, and to glorify himself as God, persecuting the saints and blaspheming Christ, even as Daniel says, “I considered the horns, and, behold, in the horn were eyes like the eyes of man, and a mouth speaking great things; and he opened his mouth to blaspheme God. And that born made war against the saints, and prevailed against them until the beast was slain, and perished, and his body was given to be burned.” Daniel 7:8
Hippolytus (170-235AD):(notice a different book) On the End of the World A Discourse by the Most Blessed Hippolytus, Bishop and Martyr, on the End of the World, and on Antichrist, and on the Second Coming of Our Lord Jesus Christ.
"...And after that he will build the temple in Jerusalem (notice a literal building), and will restore it again speedily, and give it over to the Jews. And then he will be lifted up in heart against every man; yea, he will speak blasphemy also against God, thinking in his deceit that he shall be king upon the earth hereafter forever; not knowing, miserable wretch, that his kingdom is to be quickly brought to naught, and that he will quickly have to meet the fire which is prepared for him, along with all who trust him and serve him. For when Daniel said, “I shall make my covenant for one week,” Daniel 9:27 he indicated seven years; and the one half of the week is for the preaching of the prophets, and for the other half of the week - that is to say, for three years and a half -Antichrist will reign upon the earth. And after this his kingdom and his glory shall be taken away."
But lett's look at Scripture.
In Revelation 11:1-2 we see the new Temple being built, as the one Jesus walked out of in Matthew 24:1-2 has been destroyed. Second, Rev 11:3 says 3 And I will give power to my two witnesses, and they will prophesy 1,260 days, clothed in sackcloth.”
1,260 days is important because it's exactly 3.5 years when using a 360 day calendar.
Genesis 7- 11 In the six hundredth year of Noah’s life, in the second month (2nd month), the seventeenth day of the month (17th day), on that day all the fountains of the great deep were broken up, and the windows of heaven were opened.
Genesis 8: 3 And the waters receded continually from the earth. At the end of the hundred and fifty days (150 days) the waters decreased. 4 Then the ark rested in the seventh month (7th month), the seventeenth day of the month (17th day), on the mountains of Ararat.
From 2nd month 17th day to 7th month 17th day = 5 months of 150 days = 30 days per month.
Isaiah 66:23 And it shall come to pass That from one New Moon to another (30 days- 29.5 according to NASA), And from one Sabbath to another, All flesh shall come to worship before Me,” says the Lord.
Daniel 9:25-26 (I am copying a reply I sent to a Jewish man but it shows Prophecy uses a 360 day calendar, it's using the Orthodox Jewish translation)
25 Have da’as, therefore, and get seichel, that from the going forth of the decree to restore and to rebuild Yerushalayim (Jerusalem) unto Moshiach Nagid (Messiah Prince) shall be shivah (seven) heptads (weeks) and threescore (3x20= 60) and two heptads (2 weeks); the rechov shall be built again, and the charutz, even in troublous times. (7 weeks) and (62 weeks) = 69 weeks out of 70 weeks (verse 24)
26 And after threescore and two heptads (62 weeks), yikaret (will be cut off) Moshiach [Yeshayah 53:8], but not for himself
This tells us that 69 weeks or 173,880 days from the "decree to rebuild Jerusalem" 445 BC (found in Nehemiah 2:1-6)
www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/timeline-for-the-history-of-jerusalem-4500-bce-present
445-425 BCE - Nehemiah the Prophet Rebuilds the Walls of Jerusalem; City Confined to Eastern Hill
to the Messiah will be "yikaret" (cut off, cut down, killed, destroyed, or perish,)
Add 173,880 days which is Nisan (Passover) 32AD
26 And after threescore and two heptads, yikaret (will be cut off killed) Moshiach [Yeshayah 53:8], but not for himself
69 weeks of years = 483 years x 360 days per year in 173,880 days from the decree to rebuild Jerusalem to the killing of Messiah the Prince.
Nehemiah 2:1 says the decree went out Nisan 445 BC. 173,880 days into our Gregorian calendar of 365.25 days per year is 476.0575 years.
Nisan 445 BC- Nisan 1 BC = 444 years (476.0575 -444 =32.0575) Nisan 1 AD +32.0575 = 32 AD Nisan 1+ .0575 (21 Days) = Nisan 22 (Passover) 32AD the killing of Messiah the Prince but not for Himself.
And the next part of the verse 26 says the Messiah the Prince needs to be cut off BEFORE the destruction of the Temple and Jerusalem.
(end of study)
So 1 week is 7 years with the years being 360 days per year or = 2,520 days because we know how to calculate the 69 weeks prior.
(Continued in Part 2)
@@sammymadethis Part 2/2 So in Revelation 11:3 have we ever seen 2 invincible witnesses preach for 3.5 years or 1,260 days in Jerusalem? No. Have we then seen the killed and lay in the streets for 3.5 days? No. Have we seen them then resurrected and taken up to Heaven? No. This is all spelled out in Revelation 11.
Rev 11:7 When they (2 invincible witnesses) finish their testimony (1,260 days or 3.5 years), the beast that ascends out of the bottomless pit will make war against them, overcome them, and kill them.
Rev 13:1 the beast arises - verse 3b "And all the world marveled and followed the beast. 4 So they worshiped the dragon who gave authority to the beast; and they worshiped the beast, saying, “Who is like the beast? Who is able to make war with him?”
5 And he was given a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies, and he was given authority to continue for forty-two months. 6 Then he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme His name, His tabernacle, and those who dwell in heaven. 7 It was granted to him to make war with the saints and to overcome them. And authority was given him over every tribe, tongue, and nation."
the beast was given authority over the earth for 42 months or 3.5 years.
2 witnesses preach for 3.5 years then they are killed by a "beast" and the beast is given authority over the earth for 3.5 years. = a 7 year timeframe. That early Christians verify that's what they taught.
What is the Rapture? The Rapture is the removal of the righteous (Christians, the Church) from the earth. Why? GOD's wrath.
2 Peter 3 there are ONLY 2 periods in all of human history where GOD's wrath comes first the flood, then will be of fire. Jesus in Luke 17 says just before He comes it'll be like the days of Noah and Lot. Those days weren't good days, those days were of wickedness and GOD's wrath. We see in Revelation 6:14 Then the sky receded as a scroll when it is rolled up, and every mountain and island was moved out of its place. 15 And the kings of the earth, the great men, the rich men, the commanders, the mighty men, every slave and every free man, hid themselves in the caves and in the rocks of the mountains, 16 and said to the mountains and rocks, “Fall on us and hide us from the face of Him who sits on the throne and from the wrath of the Lamb! 17 For the great day of His wrath has come, and who is able to stand?”
And Rev 16:1 the 7 bowls of GOD's wrath are poured out. In Revelation we have 3 sets of Judgment 7 Seals, 7 Trumpets and 7 Bowls. In Rev 5 Jesus is given a scroll with 7 Seals, in Rev 6 we see Seals 1,2,3,4,5,6, broken in numerical order. Seal 7 is broken in Rev 8:1 AFTER Seal 7 in Rev 8:2 we are introduced to 7 Trumpets and from Rev 8:7-Rev 9 Trumpets 1,2,3,4,5,6 are blown in numerical order. Trumpet 6 is Rev 9 then we see Trumpet 7 in Rev 11:15 AFTER the first 3.5 years preaching of the 2 witnesses.
So the 7 years begin AFTER Trumpet 6 but before Trumpet 7. Trumpet 1 comes BEFORE Trumpet 6 and Seal 7 Comes BEFORE Trumpet 1, and Seal 6 the first mention of GOD's wrath is BEFORE Seal 7. So GOD's wrath comes BEFORE the 7 years.
Genesis 18. GOD comes to Abraham and says He will destroy Sodom and Gomorrah. Abraham responds:
23 And Abraham came near and said, “Would You also destroy the righteous with the wicked? 24 Suppose there were fifty righteous within the city; would You also destroy the place and not spare it for the fifty righteous that were in it? 25 Far be it from You to do such a thing as this, to slay the righteous with the wicked, so that the righteous should be as the wicked; far be it from You! Shall not the Judge of all the earth do right?”
26 So the Lord said, “If I find in Sodom fifty righteous within the city, then I will spare all the place for their sakes.”
We see Abraham negotiate it down to 10 righteous in the 2 cities.
32 Then he said, “Let not the Lord be angry, and I will speak but once more: Suppose ten should be found there?”
And He said, “I will not destroy it for the sake of ten.”
Despite all the sins of Sodom and Gomorrah GOD would have spared the cities for the sake of 10 righteous. Now we read Genesis 19 and we see that there wasn't 10 righteous so the few righteous were removed AND THEN the LORD"s wrath came. Gen 19: 15-22.
A lot of Christians look at America and call it the "new Sodom" and proclaim GOD will judge it. But they look at judgment coming because of the sins of the lost not the wickedness of His people.
When there are believers and unbelievers in the lands whether it was Sodom or Israel GOD looked at when those who claimed to be His people were wicked. When America is judged it's not because of the sins of the ungodly but because His people (Us) Believers have become wicked.
2 Chronicles 7:14.
But GOD throughout Scripture removes or separates the righteous from the unrighteous BEFORE judgment. Matthew 25, Rev 20, etc. There is a separation first and then they are judged.
John 3:36, Romans 6:7-8 and 1 Thess 5:8-11 show us because we are covered by His blood, and given His righteousness we are not destined for His wrath.
1 Thess 5:8 But let us who are of the day be sober, putting on the breastplate of faith and love, and as a helmet the hope of salvation. 9 For God did not appoint us to wrath, but to obtain salvation through our Lord Jesus Christ, 10 who died for us, that whether we wake or sleep, we should live together with Him.
11 Therefore comfort each other and edify one another, just as you also are doing.
We as those who are covered by His blood will not see His wrath. The Rapture isn't about escaping hard times, persecution or martyrdom, it's about escaping the LORD"s wrath.
Which we see in Rev 6:12-17 Seal 6, which is BEFORE the 7 years begin. That's it. It's very simple when you understand the biblical context and narrative. I hope it helps.
Jesus fulfilled the first 3,5 years and was cut off, so only 3,5 years left
GLORY BE TO OUR TRIUNE GOD
Praise God for dispite me being stubborn and not yet belonging to a church, but having a love for scripture that this is exactly how I understood eschatology. God is faithful
Me too! But I will find a church this year.
@Gatteleylife9957 Check out Orthodoxy, through my long time of searching for truth, this church holds the closest to what Christ taught
Do so please see 😂 you in heaven my prayer 🤲🙏
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@ if we are faithful
Sam is the best when it comes to exposing false religions. But the rest is Questionable
SAM IS NOT PERFECT HE SLIPS IN MANY PLACES ALSO
While I WANT to be raptured due to the wonton evil and immorality of this world growing so fast, for the sake of my children more than anything. It does NOT matter regardless, as I have chosen to Follow Jesus eternal, God has my back in all times and situations, and Pre-Mid-Post I know where I end up. Time is so short regardless and the tribulation starts soon. All the events and signs of it starting are happening NOW. So get right with God, keep praying, and even when you fail like I do, step up, ask your forgiveness and ask God for more help in following Jesus's example of living no matter what.
Armageddon and Christ's 1000-year reign has already come and gone. We are currently living in Satan's time of deception as described in Rev 20:8.
@TTSPOG Story of my life, and of every Christian who genuinely follows Christ. The struggles are almost limitless just as the race we run is almost endless, but as Paul exhorts us, keep running the race. And run the race to victory we will. With Jesus' help, we shall be victorious in the end.
🎶''When we all get to Heaven, what a day of REJOICING that will be.
When we all see Jesus, we'll sing and shout the victory!''🎶🎶
You are missing an important point. rev 20 : 4-6 says all those who were beheaded and refused the mark would be resurrected. This seems to be referring to those killed during the tribulation. Which leaves out 2000 years of dead Christians. Jesus said that he goes to prepare a place for us to be with God. When Jesus returns He will be coming to live on earth, seperating the sheep from the goats. You also leave out the host returning with Jesus. The tribulation will also kill massive numbers of people with all manner of disasters. If there is no rapture all Christians will be subject to the foretold disasters, not just those converted through the tribulation or the opening of the seals whatever term you wish to use. There is more than I can recount here but one final point, the living can`t be resurrected. Therefore according to your interpretation we must all die in order to be resurrected.
Yes Good job, you are correct. This guy is wrong. The great multitude John was shown by the angel was those you had to wash their robes and were beheaded by the ac during the tribulation. Bible clearly states that.
If the new heaven and earth is destroyed at the beginning of the 1000 years. How is Satan loosed after the 1000 years and deceives those I'm the kingdom. Most Christians overlook this verse in the Bible. But actually its one of the most important. Don't over look it. Really meditate on this verse and its implication. Satan's little season.
No .Jesus clearly states that the tribulation starts immediately after the destruction of the temple. After the Jews stone Steven the temple was destroyed within the same year. Then those who were alive flee into the roman province were the early Christian and apostle were being prosecuted for the faith both by the Jews and Romans .even during the mid evil times many were prosecuted by the church also . And by other roman provinces who didn't like the faith .during John time he says This is the spirit of the antichrist, which you have heard is coming is now is already in the world” (1 John 4:3).John made it clear that the antichrist was already in the world during his time and even after that ..therefore the people who did not receive the mark was those people from 2000 years ago until now .God is a fair God he wouldn't take you and me out during our days and not those people in those days that went through the most horrific death for the faith .Jesus made it clear that his coming will be no secret ,for as lighten flashes east and and is being clearly seen in the west so will his coming be ; and all eyes she see him coming in the cloud .and on that day the dead in Christ will rise and those who are alive in Christ will change into incorruptable bodies and meet him in the air and will reign with Christ a thousand years . those who were dead and are not in Christ will not rise until the thousand were finished .this is the second resurrection . those who are alive on the day of Christ return will die by the brightness of his coming .there will be no one to lament or bury their dead bodies ,they will be like dung upon the earth .and their will be desolation in the earth in those days .and the devil will have no one to deceive until the thousand years were finish .after the thousand was finish he will go back to deceive the nation again.saints looked down from heaven and ask when Lord ,when will you go down to avenge our death ..those are of the second resurrection.and he will gather together the armies to fight against the saints ,this is the bottle of armorgaden
let me reveal to you a wonderful secret. We will not all die, but we will all be transformed! ICor15.
Tells us changed without dying eh
Armageddon and Christ's 1000-year reign has already come and gone. We are currently living in Satan's time of deception as described in Rev 20:8.
Messiah2030 parts 1,2, and 3 were an eye-opener for me.
Whenever he comes, I'll be waiting.
Eyes up..lamp full and ready to go anytime.
Here is my comment, today is the day of salvation.
Armageddon and Christ's 1000-year reign has already come and gone. We are currently living in Satan's time of deception as described in Rev 20:8.
Part 3/3 Rev 6- Seal 6 14 Then the sky receded as a scroll when it is rolled up, and every mountain and island was moved out of its place. 15 And the kings of the earth, the great men, the rich men, the commanders, the mighty men, every slave and every free man, hid themselves in the caves and in the rocks of the mountains, 16 and said to the mountains and rocks, “Fall on us and hide us from the face of Him who sits on the throne and from the wrath of the Lamb! 17 For the great day of His wrath has come, and who is able to stand?”
(Remember Lactantius and Victorinus both mention Rev 6- Seal 6 in connection with the Rapture? Here's why)
What is the Rapture? The Rapture is the removal of the righteous (Christians, the Church) from the earth. Why? GOD's wrath.
2 Peter 3 there are ONLY 2 periods in all of human history where GOD's wrath comes first the flood, then will be of fire. Jesus in Luke 17 says just before He comes it'll be like the days of Noah and Lot. Those days weren't good days, those days were of wickedness and GOD's wrath. We see in Revelation 6:14 Then the sky receded as a scroll when it is rolled up, and every mountain and island was moved out of its place. 15 And the kings of the earth, the great men, the rich men, the commanders, the mighty men, every slave and every free man, hid themselves in the caves and in the rocks of the mountains, 16 and said to the mountains and rocks, “Fall on us and hide us from the face of Him who sits on the throne and from the wrath of the Lamb! 17 For the great day of His wrath has come, and who is able to stand?”
And Rev 16:1 the 7 bowls of GOD's wrath are poured out. In Revelation we have 3 sets of Judgment 7 Seals, 7 Trumpets and 7 Bowls. In Rev 5 Jesus is given a scroll with 7 Seals, in Rev 6 we see Seals 1,2,3,4,5,6, broken in numerical order. Seal 7 is broken in Rev 8:1 AFTER Seal 7 in Rev 8:2 we are introduced to 7 Trumpets and from Rev 8:7-Rev 9 Trumpets 1,2,3,4,5,6 are blown in numerical order. Trumpet 6 is Rev 9 then we see Trumpet 7 in Rev 11:15 AFTER the first 3.5 years preaching of the 2 witnesses.
So the 7 years begin AFTER Trumpet 6 but before Trumpet 7. Trumpet 1 comes BEFORE Trumpet 6 and Seal 7 Comes BEFORE Trumpet 1, and Seal 6 the first mention of GOD's wrath is BEFORE Seal 7. So GOD's wrath comes BEFORE the 7 years.
Genesis 18. GOD comes to Abraham and says He will destroy Sodom and Gomorrah. Abraham responds:
23 And Abraham came near and said, “Would You also destroy the righteous with the wicked? 24 Suppose there were fifty righteous within the city; would You also destroy the place and not spare it for the fifty righteous that were in it? 25 Far be it from You to do such a thing as this, to slay the righteous with the wicked, so that the righteous should be as the wicked; far be it from You! Shall not the Judge of all the earth do right?”
26 So the Lord said, “If I find in Sodom fifty righteous within the city, then I will spare all the place for their sakes.”
We see Abraham negotiate it down to 10 righteous in the 2 cities.
32 Then he said, “Let not the Lord be angry, and I will speak but once more: Suppose ten should be found there?”
And He said, “I will not destroy it for the sake of ten.”
Despite all the sins of Sodom and Gomorrah GOD would have spared the cities for the sake of 10 righteous. Now we read Genesis 19 and we see that there wasn't 10 righteous so the few righteous were removed AND THEN the LORD"s wrath came. Gen 19: 15-22.
A lot of Christians look at America and call it the "new Sodom" and proclaim GOD will judge it. But they look at judgment coming because of the sins of the lost not the wickedness of His people.
When there are believers and unbelievers in the lands whether it was Sodom or Israel GOD looked at when those who claimed to be His people were wicked. When America is judged it's not because of the sins of the ungodly but because His people (Us) Believers have become wicked.
2 Chronicles 7:14.
But GOD throughout Scripture removes or separates the righteous from the unrighteous BEFORE judgment. Matthew 25, Rev 20, etc. There is a separation first and then they are judged.
John 3:36, Romans 6:7-8 and 1 Thess 5:8-11 show us because we are covered by His blood, and given His righteousness we are not destined for His wrath.
1 Thess 5:8 But let us who are of the day be sober, putting on the breastplate of faith and love, and as a helmet the hope of salvation. 9 For God did not appoint us to wrath, but to obtain salvation through our Lord Jesus Christ, 10 who died for us, that whether we wake or sleep, we should live together with Him.
11 Therefore comfort each other and edify one another, just as you also are doing.
We as those who are covered by His blood will not see His wrath. The Rapture isn't about escaping hard times, persecution or martyrdom, it's about escaping the LORD"s wrath.
Which we see in Rev 6:12-17 Seal 6, which is BEFORE the 7 years begin. That's it. It's very simple when you understand the biblical context and narrative.
Here's why this topic is important. In Matthew 16 Jesus rebuked the Pharisees in verses 1-4 and Peter later hard for not knowing the plans of the LORD. The Pharisees didn't know the time of their visitation and Peter didn't understand the cross. Jesus blasted those who claimed to know GOD and His Word. He blasted Peter who had followed Him for over 3 years.
I don't want Christians today to miss this. I hope this helps. Take care.
What exactly do you believe this is a prophecy for and why doesn't it state anything specific or detailed? Where are the dates, times, and names?
But see it does say that they will be caught up with the Lord in the sky, AND they will be with the Lord forever.
If the Lord is returning as he promised, stops whilst in the sky and collects us, we meet with him, then come on down with him to Armageddon, and then remain with him as he rules and reigns for 1000 years, and then be with him through the Last Judgement and on into the New Heavens and New Earth... are we not "with the Lord forever"? It says nothing about being raptured and then waiting up in heaven and then coming down X amount of time later. That's been "read into" the passages. Just take them as they are. And read Matthew 24: "After the tribulation... two shall be in a field, and one taken and one left..."
@@Iluvantir Matthew 24 is not the "rapture' of the Church, heaven is the sky, not Heaven - capital H.
Nothing human can prepare a human being for what’s to come. I understand the fear of pre tribs and the chest pounding of the post tribs. I’ve made peace and repeat what I’ve learned from others, “pray for pre, prepare for post”.
Because he spares us his wrath. There will be two witnesses who go around making more Christians AFTER we have left. This is where some get confused as to how there will be any Christians during the 7 year tribulation - it’s because they decided to come to faith AFTER the rapture takes place. They will have to die as Christians or survive until we come back with Jesus as his saints.
I don't understand the logic in that. Take some Christians but in the blink of an eye, take more.
If you're one who holds a 7 yr tribulation, that's like a vapor in time. Even 100 years is like a fart in the wind (excuse my humor).
What sense does it make to remove however many Christians at the start of a tribulation, only to create and take more literally the next day?
Thank you for presenting this teaching! Sam Shamoun is famous for debating and convincing Muslims that the Quran is not the word of God. His knowledge of the Bible and the Quran is top notch!
❤️🙌🏻✝️thank you Holy Spirit for this understanding. All praise and glory to Jesus Christ.
Armageddon and Christ's 1000-year reign has already come and gone. We are currently living in Satan's time of deception as described in Rev 20:8.
Problem here is that he is saying that sinners will be removed from the earth and there won’t be sinners during the millennium. Yet the Bible states that there will be nations refusing to go to Jerusalem and therefore will not receive rain. Those right there ARE sinners.
Exactly! Zekariah 14:16-20. I think many times the Scriptures condense events that will take time to manifest and make them to look like that they will happen quickly right after the other (or out of order). Whereas some events may stretch out for years to take place fully. Its up to us to take the whole council of Elohim correctly and not just read verses in isolation. I think the book of Revelation, specifically chapter 20 (on this subject) reveals to us a nice chronolgy of the events (There will be a ressurrection [only for the just] followed by the 1000 yr reign of the Messiah on earth - where there will be both spirit beings and physical beings (surviving nations) co-existing on earth. The phyical beings will pro-create (as usual), and still be capable of dying...even though they dont have to die...if they keep the Torah coming out of Yerushalayim from the Messiah, they could easily live a 1000 years. But if they sin they could die before the 1000 years are over (See YeshaYahu [Isaiah] 65: 20-25]). Another good example of condensed events is in 1 Cor 15:23-28. I think we should look at Rev 20 as a chapter that gives a clear chronology of when the condensed events (mentioned in other places) will take place. There are too many Scriptures especially in the Torah (old Testament) - about the restoration of Yirael, the re-built temple, restored priesthood, keeping of Feasts (see Ezekiel and other places), basically the LITERAL rule of the Messiah on EARTH that cannot be ignored. This makes Rev 20 a key chapter to accept that all the promises/prophecies mentioned by the prophets will literally be fulfilled during this time (a literal 1000 year reign).
Who told you that’s not a conditional promise that was meant to happen but the Jews were cut off. Some of Zach 12-14 might happen but not all need to happen
@@mosheheliyahu9071Who told you that’s Zach 12-14 is not partly conditional? Some things might happen but all things don’t need to happen.
1 Thes 5:9 for God did not appoint us to wrath, but to obtain salvation through our Lord Jesus Christ,. Revelation 15 thru 16 talks of the wrath being poured out.
He's wrong about Daniel 9:27. That hasn't happened yet. The final week is the 7 years of the Great Tribulation.
Look at the purpose of the weeks of judgment.
Daniel 9:24
Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.
Let's start with putting an end to sins. Is there still sin in Jerusalem? Yes. So have the events in 66 AD or whatever put an end to sins? No.
Bring in everlasting righteousness? Of course not.
Last but not least, anoint the Most Holy. This is absolutely a deal breaker. Jesus will be anointed King of the Earth and will reign for 1000 years at the end of the Great Tribulation. The Great Tribulation ends at the end of the 70th week of Daniel. Jesus was never crowned King of Earth. It didn't happen yet.
The Great Tribulation will be the end of the judgment against Israel for her past iniquities, which were very great. They're over. Israel is at perfect peace with Jesus there physically ruling as King.
Zephaniah 3:9-15
9 For then will I turn to the people a pure language, that they may all call upon the name of the Lord, to serve him with one consent.
10 From beyond the rivers of Ethiopia my suppliants, even the daughter of my dispersed, shall bring mine offering.
11 In that day shalt thou not be ashamed for all thy doings, wherein thou hast transgressed against me: for then I will take away out of the midst of thee them that rejoice in thy pride, and thou shalt no more be haughty because of my holy mountain.
12 I will also leave in the midst of thee an afflicted and poor people, and they shall trust in the name of the Lord.
13 The remnant of Israel shall not do iniquity, nor speak lies; neither shall a deceitful tongue be found in their mouth: for they shall feed and lie down, and none shall make them afraid.
14 Sing, O daughter of Zion; shout, O Israel; be glad and rejoice with all the heart, O daughter of Jerusalem.
15 The Lord hath taken away thy judgments, he hath cast out thine enemy: the king of Israel, even the Lord, is in the midst of thee: thou shalt not see evil any more.
Zephaniah is prophesying about the Day of the LORD, which is the theme of his whole Book. The Day of the LORD is the final day of the Great Tribulation. The remnant of Israel will have a pure language (no cursing or lies). The prideful have been removed. Only a remnant is left.
Nobody shall make them afraid (verse 13). You can't tell me this was accomplished 2000 years ago.
And in verse 15, we see the Lord has removed their judgments and Jesus is King among them. Why did He take away their judgments?
Because the 70 weeks of judgment have been fulfilled. The judgment is over now. It is complete.
Let's look at that again.
Daniel 9:24
Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.
Verse 25 has already been accomplished by Nehemiah. 69 weeks are done.
Daniel 9:25
Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times.
But then there was a gap. The 70th week is different. It hasn't happened yet. God hit the pause button on judgment.
Even if you believe the 70th week was in AD 66, there was a massive gap between Nehemiah and then. You're conceding the pause button.
Now when you look at verse 27 where it discusses the 70th week, is there any honest way to believe it has already happened?
Daniel 9:27
And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.
No. This is a future event, after which the 70 weeks of judgment upon Israel will have been fulfilled.
Then and only then is the judgment removed, and the sins end, and Jesus is crowned King on Earth.
I agree with u pre- trib rapture is correct @protorhinocerator142
This wrath is “ thymos” in greek - the wrath to which we are not appointed in thessalonians is “ orge” in greek ~ Final judgement. Thymos is what hundreds of thousands of christians are experiencing today- persecution to death
@@pierrenel5767 God's wrath is not the same as Man's persecution.
Christians will be persecuted. Jesus said so. Here on earth, persecution.
@@protorhinocerator142 Daniel 9:27 Was fulfilled when God refused the Yom Kippur sacrifices for 40 years starting after Jesus died until the destruction of the second temple, when it was made desolate in 70 A.D. God signifying his refusal of temple sacrifice is clearly recorded in the Jewish Talmud.
Christ return on earth is of two stages first is to meet the believers (overcomers, first fruit, first harvest) on the air before the wrath of God is poured into the earth, second is at the end of tribulation at the mount of olives responding to the Jews during the battle of Armaggedon, and setting up His kindom with all the believers taken into the air including those who come into faith during the great tribulation and those resurrected who are slain because of His name, those unbelievers who died will only be resurrected on the judgment day after the 1000 year of Christ reign on earth.
But Peter is saying we look forward to New Heaven and New Earth … meaning it’s not necessarily immediate and can be at the end of his 1000 year reign with us. So there is congruence.
(25:35)
2. Peter v3:8 "But do not forget this one thing, dear friends: With the Lord a day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years are like a day."
Question: According to Rev. 20:4, if those resurrected at the First Resurrection only include those believers killed by the Antichrist then who is being referred to as the rest of the dead?
Maybe the 1000 years feels like a day, because the Lord is with us.
Maybe the 'Day of the Lord' is actually 1,000 years
I was thinking that. Like time won’t be perceived the same way.
@@bukuismdef not that.
Maybe it is both a day and a thousand years depending where you are
😂 yeah a thousand year is like one day
Revelation seems to say "Yes, everything will happen as promised but there is a small intermission between the establishment of the Kingdom and Judgement that until now I haven't shared with you". 1000 years is a blip in human history.
Wow! His explanation is the simplest and most straightforward interpretation with no contradictions regarding when the rapture occurs, which is on the Day of the Lord and 1 Thes. 4 & 5 describes the individual human spirits coming down to be reunited with their corresponding resurrected bodies coming upward! Again, the simplest exegesis has no contradictions ! However, I’ve never heard the theory that Daniel 9:26-27 has already been fulfilled, and the tribulation period is only 3 1/2 years. Not convinced yet, but this man is extremely knowledgeable about scripture and I must reexamine that theory.
Irenaeus told us what's going to happen and broke things down pretty well.
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Watched this last night amazing study!
Armageddon and Christ's 1000-year reign has already come and gone. We are currently living in Satan's time of deception as described in Rev 20:8.
Je suis creationniste biblique millénariste pretribulationniste🔥💜🔥alléluia
If the new heaven and Earth comes on the day of the Lord, why then does Jesus say he's going to prepare a place for us if we're not even going to go there?
Point 2
As a Pre-Tribulation believer (although not directly related to salvation)
Consider your interpretation of Rev.4-9
There will be more than one resurrection. After we are Raptured, many Luke warm and those left behind and new believers martyred in Christ's name, these are those you speak of. But those believers that make it through the tribulation will continue to populate the earth during the millennium.
In 1 Thessalonians 4:14 it makes way more sense that Jesus is not descending but in that verse it’s talking about him ascending into heaven with the ones who are asleep in him
Keep looking up your redemption draws near. YESHUA is coming back soon. Praise ADONAI. Pray for the peace of Jerusalem and for the JEWISH people the apple of ADONAI'S eye. MARANATHA. YESHUA died so you could live.
Armageddon and Christ's 1000-year reign has already come and gone. We are currently living in Satan's time of deception as described in Rev 20:8.
Please continue to teach the end times and the book of Revelation.
Armageddon and Christ's 1000-year reign has already come and gone. We are currently living in Satan's time of deception as described in Rev 20:8.
Thousand years is a day to christ and a day is a thousand years
"As a day"..."as a thousand years", not is a day and not is a thousand years. There's a difference. It's an analogy, not a statement of fact.
Armageddon and Christ's 1000-year reign has already come and gone. We are currently living in Satan's time of deception as described in Rev 20:8.
@@IanUnslaved Daniel's 70th week includes a destruction of Babylon by fire from heaven (Isa. 13:19-22; Jer. 51:26; Rev. 16:17-19; 18:8). This prophecy has never been literally fulfilled, making your statement impossible.
It depends on how you view the 1000 year reign. It could be that the rapture in Rev 20 is the “first resurrection” when Christ comes the first time and the 1000 year reign is the time of rewards in heaven until that period (prob symbolically, I don’t know) is over and then the second resurrection happens at the second coming. 1 Thessa 4 refers to the first resurrection as our blessed hope
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Like a thief in the night I thought it was every eye would see? Rapture and the Lord's day are two different events
When you separate the chaff from the wheat , you through it up in the air .
The chaff flies away , and the wheat remains ..😊
🙏🏿 Thank You.
The passage that says a king will rule for 1 hour is impossible to rule for that time but if you divide a 1000 years in 24 hours it gives 40. So just that kingdom can easily be a 40 year period completely negating a simple 7 year period.
You are putting God in a box because you can’t see how God can do these things because my God has no limits Amen Amen Amen!!!!!!!!888
What Jesus Christ does is the good of the believers of Jesus Christ who is God Himself
As he mentioned Matthew, you don't harvest the weeds and you don't reap what you did not sow. The angels are the reapers of what is good, so they will reap the believers and leave the weeds (evil doers) and then that will be burned in the fire below.
Pre trib pre wedding
Mathew 25:10 gathering
Matthew 25:10 NKJV - “And while they went to buy, the bridegroom came, and those who were ready went in with him to the wedding; and the door was shut.
Post trib post wedding
Luke 12:36 NKJV - “and you yourselves be like men who wait for their master, when he will return from the wedding, that when he comes and knocks they may open to him immediately.
Sam should have also emphasised the fact that those who are raised during the first resurrection are the ones that were beheaded for refusing to take the mark of the beast, and worship his image during the Tribulation. This further demonstrates that the Rapture has to be a post Tribulation event.
It's the thousand years of Revelation Peter is referring to, saying that it could be a thousand years, more or less, before Jesus comes, but when he does, we will see the new heaven and new earth cleansed by fire. 1 Cor. 15:54 also puts God's kingdom on earth after we are changed in the twinkling of an eye. The verse takes you to Isaiah 25 explaining death is destroyed and a great feast is happening for all who have waited on the Lord, and with that the "New Covenant" will be reality.
Rev 20 Verse 5, specifically " this is the first resurrection" is the start of verse 6 and shouodbt have been numbered with verse 5.
Armageddon and Christ's 1000-year reign has already come and gone. We are currently living in Satan's time of deception as described in Rev 20:8.
Peter 2 verse 8 stands out to me as a very specific detail, like when watching a movie and somebody says something that just seems random only later be like "oh i see why they said that!" so if that the case then john is talking about the exact same thing as the other 3.
I feel like what Paul is saying is that the people who have died resurrect after they die (we just don't see it happen). And the people who are alive at the time the Lord comes will join those who already resurrected after death at that time.
Jesus specifically references as it shall be in the days of Noah, which is to be interpreted as a fragment of humanity being saved and carried through disaster and turmoil, not being let to endure the wrath of God. There are several other places in scripture where these similar things happen.
Consider -
If the Church is not raptured, but goes through the Tribulation and someone takes the Mark of the Beast, will they go to hell as stated? Isn’t this contradicting verses that say we are saved?
Underlying the anti pre trib rapture movement, there is a deficient understanding of the finished work of the Cross. This idea that we have to go through part of or all of the tribulation seems like a form of Protestant purgatory. That somehow, by enduring the tribulation horror, adds some kind of merit to the broken body and shed blood of the Savior.
We believe that the Bible teaches that the Holy Spirit is using the Church to keep the Antichrist from appearing. His unique sin-restraining ministry, through God’s people, will be removed. At the rapture, the Church will be caught up to heaven with Jesus. First the dead in Christ and then the living. The secret power of lawlessness is already at work, but now Satan will be able to put the Antichrist into power and the great tribulation will begin. Evil is restrained right now; once the Church Age ends, the hindrance to evil will be removed, and the rebellion will seem to be winning; however, the ultimate doom of evil is sure.
The Rapture is known as a mystery.
The Rapture was revealed by Paul in 1 Corinthians 15 and it had never been revealed before (about 30 years after Christ's ascension).
It is no longer a mystery.
Paul revealed it and gave the timeline for it.
The dating of the rapture is not given nor can it be deduced (Acts 1:7, 1 Thessalonians 5:1).
According to God’s timetable, the Day of the Lord and the accompanying judgment will not start until two things happen: a global rebellion occurs and the Antichrist is revealed. Paul then mentions what is currently keeping the evil in check: “And now you know what is holding him back, so that he may be revealed at the proper time. For the secret power of lawlessness is already at work; but the one who now holds it back will continue to do so till he is taken out of the way. And then the lawless one will be revealed” (verses 6-8).
Regardless of rapture or not, the more important thing is to love God and your neighbor.
I don't know if this is true , but. The sequence is taking the Mark , worshipping the beast , and his image. So is that one thing done all together or is it separate events. So could there be a time it's the Mark , people don't generally know it's of the devil , then they make demands on you and people start going wait a minute this is wrong it's of the devil. Are you still damned. I don't think God damns you for things you didn't know.
@@Harbringe
Well read the 3 angel message
Revelation 14
6 And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people, 7 Saying with a loud voice, Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment is come: and worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters. 8 And there followed another angel, saying, Babylon is fallen, is fallen, that great city, because she made all nations drink of the wine of the wrath of her fornication. 9 And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand, 10 The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb: 11 And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name. 12 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.
@@HarbringeHosea 4:6 my people are destroyed for a lack of knowledge
Armageddon and Christ's 1000-year reign has already come and gone. We are currently living in Satan's time of deception as described in Rev 20:8.
@@Harbringe Wait a minute, how come the power of the priest stops during the Tribulation? Why aren't you able to confess that sin to the priests then? That said,
You make a good point, in fact, that is one of the reasons why born again Christians can't be here when that happens. Because either is work salvation or the Mark is only for the non believers which makes no sense at all. If Catholics like Sam are correct, then the Bible is wrong because if one takes the Mark goes to hell no questions asked. Meaning that if one is saved once, and stays saved always, the Mark would not affect him/her. But the Bible says that you lose salvation by taking the Mark. But Catholics do not have salvation until their last breath. In Catholicism you can't have a Rapture because of Purgatory. Are you telling me that Purgatory ends before the "Tribulation"? Therefore, Sam has to deny the rapture. I haven't seen the video yet but I know what he will say already. What say you?
Now, to make matters worse for the Catholic, what is it with Jesus saying to do this and do that and be good and follow his teachings if, according to Catholic theology, only non-believers enter the kingdom? The only possible solution is God would create a "bubble" around Catholics to protect them against the wrath of God. Then, what is the point of going through it? I thought it was to cleanse their sins even further, wasn't it? Unless those who enter the kingdom are Catholics who are hiding, those who prepped so to speak but that is exactly the opposite of what the Bible portrays. In order to survive one must be selfish, running from danger rather than helping others or sharing the gospels because those are killed. Any clue on how to solve this conundrum?
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It does say we will be taken out before the tribulation, because it says, #1 He comes as a thief; Revelation 16:15; Matthew 24:43, 50; 1 Thessalonians 5:2, 4,; 2 Peter 3:10. If we are getting our heads cut off, there will be no sneakiness to our Lord's return...There will be no surprise.
#2 Jesus, in Matthew 24:38 and Luke 17:27 said, they were marrying and giving in marriage...I don't think, while we would be getting our heads chopped off, we would be partying and having weddings. To be clear, He is specifically speaking to "The Church"...Which if you don't know what that means, it's the Christians since Jesus' death and resurrection. "Tribulation Saints" are different. They actually do get their heads cut off... So trust Christ now to avoid that!
#3 Also the same verses above, Jesus says it's like the flood of Noah...The non-believers were NOT expecting it, BUT NOAH AND HIS FAMILY WERE.... And God shut the door to the Ark while a JUDGEMENT came upon the earth.
The ancient rabbis have a saying, "Prophecy is not prediction, it's pattern"....And we see that ALL throughout Scripture.
But let me give us, few, true, members of the Church a warning... I say a "few" because Jesus says, when He returns, will He even find faith on the earth?...Indicating not many will make it in. I look at the modern American church and...yup, simply cultural Christians...There is no fear or reverence of God...I look at (most of) the Christians in the Middle East, and it's once again, cultural Christianity... You were "born Christian"...Your last name is Christian..Which is not how Scripture says you become a Christian. No one....virtually no one... believes the Bible is litteral anymore... Interesting that when Jesus, the apostles, and other Old Testament prophets quote other prophets, they took it literal... I'm so glad that we've evolved to a higher level of consciousness than them, so that we know God's Word is metaphorical...it's just allegorical. 😂 I'm being sarcastic, of course. God says what He means and means what He says... Of course 78% of American youth leave the church after they graduate from High school because the modern American church (2 Timothy 3:5) "Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof..." Jesus wasn't joking when He said, not many will make it in.
In 2020, I had several Christian friends that were saying, were going to go into the tribulation and admittedly, I was starting to stress out , COVID was bad enough right?! But I was REALLY starting to think maybe they were right! I diligently took it to God in prayer and asked Him to show me the truth! And it was like He scolded me for me being afraid He was going to leave us during the Tribulation! He took me immediately to the resurrection in Luke 24:25..." Then he said unto them, O fools, and slow of heart to believe all that the prophets have spoken..." OUCH! He slapped me with that one! Please know and take comfort (but don't get lazy and comfortable), we are not going through the tribulation. What did the prophets tell us??? God saved the Jews from the plagues of Egypt; He had them hide in their homes ready to fly out of Egypt after the Death Angel passed over...and saw they were covered with the blood of the lamb on their homes...Oh, no, that doesn't sound familiar at all does it? ...Sorry, more sarcasm. Rehab and her family, Lot and his family, Noah and his family... Just note, all these situations, the believers knew what was coming and ONLY the non-believers were caught off guard! LOOK UP brothers and sisters! Our redemption draws near! Maranatha!!!❤🎉😊 Don't let Sam scare you on this one...but fear the Lord. But I do love and greatly appreciate you Sam😊...and don't worry if we disagree on this, I'll explain it to you on the way up!!!😂🎉
Please check out mine then. It's a bit of a read as it's in 3 parts but I try to thoroughly debunk Sam. I like Sam's work. I think he does a great job as an evangelist but his theology especially on Eschatology is so poor. Like I said,, I like Sam, but he does the Church and unbelievers a great disservice getting this topic so wrong. It's sad to watch. If you have trouble finding the 3 parts let me know and I can repost them. Take care.
Prophecies are like horoscopes; vague and unreliable.
@TboneWTF the prophecy of the Euphrates River drying up is true !! The prophecy of Jesus riding in on a donkey came true.. You know nothing..
@ "The prophecy of Jesus riding in on a donkey came true.. You know nothing." LOL. And you'll believe anything my dear. What prophecy ever gave detailed information? Why didn't the prophecy about jesus and the donkey state a time or a date? You really should start thinking for yourself my dear. Good luck.
There was, in fact, an earlier resurrection as we are told in Matthew 27:52-53, a pre-dawn resurrection described by Jesus in the parable of the Vineyard in Matthew 20. There were four other harvest groups in that same passage, meaning future saints who are yet to be gathered.
As for Paul, he is only referring to the final two groups of harvest which are groups three (dead in Christ) and two, meaning those who are alive and remain.
Trace this comment if you want to know more. God bless!
Armageddon and Christ's 1000-year reign has already come and gone. We are currently living in Satan's time of deception as described in Rev 20:8.
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We are approaching the rise of the Antichrist after a large meteor strikes Europe, thus the 7th Seal is about to open. TheClockProphecy
Here we go, another divine interpretation of the endtimes, one of many, every interpretation that comes out is supposedly the real deal, the confusion just keeps going and going and going.
The Day of the Lord is the catching away for believers
I thought the day of the Lord was Christs second coming. 😊😊
What does catching away believers mean?
@@stankomalceski9677 The word "Rapture" isn't in the bible. But those who feel the need to call it that, the true wording is "catch up to him". The Lord will catch us up to him when he returns.
@ the term catching away for believers to me makes no sense.in Hosea 6:3 says RAISE US UP TO LIVE IN HIS SIGHT.IN Thessalonians 4:16-18 the dead in Christ will rise first .Then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the lord in the air.
@@stankomalceski9677 Hosea 6 is about Israel, please read the context in Hosea 5 when has the Church ever been called "For I will be like a lion to Ephraim,
And like a young lion to the house of Judah."? Never. please don't cause more confusion by creating contradictions that aren't there.
The prophecies of the messiah coming seemed ‘impossible’ in fulfilling :-coming as a conquering king and a suffering servant, of the house of David but not of the house of David because it was cursed, from the house of Levi but of the house of Judah, born in Bethlehem but from Egypt and Nazareth etc.
who saw, two comings, born of Levi, adopted into Judah, born of a virgin, escaped to Egypt born in Bethlehem, lived in Nazareth etc.
things that seem like a contradiction to us are not impossible to God, so although Sam may have some good points I don’t hold much weight to arguments that are structured ‘this is impossible so….’
It appears the Day of the Lord starts at Rev 6:12-17 at the 6th seal but when that is we know not.
@@stephenhorton2184 Armageddon and Christ's 1000-year reign has already come and gone. We are currently living in Satan's time of deception as described in Rev 20:8.
@@IanUnslaved go play video games, please
@@lorenzor124 cowardly hypocrite, spewing weak ass ad hominem attacks irrelevant to the statement I put forth. I bet you won't man up and try and counter my original statement.
Beloved brothers and sisters, please please I'm begging you, understand that the 7 years is from the baptism of the Messiah to the stoning of Stephen. Messiah was cut off right Square in the middle. Shalom❤
yeah?! then where is the mark of the beast and Gog and Magog invading Israel????
An important question is whether the seal, trumpet, thunder and bowl judgments are sequential.
As a Catholic I’m impressed with you wisdom and communication skills. I think you are gifted by the Holy Ghost with knowledge. I don’t believe in the Rapture or the tribulation theories you mention here. After the resurrection of the dead at Christ’s Second Coming there won’t be (from what I understand the Bible teaches) a reign of 1000 years on earth. Earth is a place for the pre resurrection body and soul man. After death and being saved, no one would want to return to earthly life when Heaven is opened for the Saints.
Armageddon and Christ's 1000-year reign has already come and gone. We are currently living in Satan's time of deception as described in Rev 20:8.
@ I agree with you.
@@jim8228 if you look at the impossible ancient architecture scattered around the globe, it makes a case for a physical worldwide kingdom. The architecture is impossible for us to recreate at the volume in which they were originally built and subsequently destroyed over the last 100 years.
There are 4 resurrections. One has already happened in concert with the resurrection of Jesus. Then the Church (Bride of Christ) is the 2nd. The 3rd is the one just before the 1000 year reign (The martyrs of the tribulation) and then last will be the resurrection of the dead before the Great Judgement. The Marriage Supper of the Lamb is in Rev 19 (before Jesus' return). How did the Bride get there? Also, how could the Armies follow Jesus on his return if they had not been resurrected (Also Rev. 19)?
Armageddon and Christ's 1000-year reign has already come and gone. We are currently living in Satan's time of deception as described in Rev 20:8.
@@michaelanderson4395 i believe we are the offspring of the 4th ressurection.
Jesus coming read Bible Thess chapter 1&2 temple Jerusalem after lawless one rules Amen 🙏 ❤😂
Not gonna lie, I was thinking about Sam’s position on this earlier today while at work. He’s great when debating and I wondered if I’d have to part from him if he was a pretrib believer like 90% of Christian’s. And now I have my answer. god bless you Sam.
AMEN! I agree with you on almost everything
"BRING WITH HIM..." simply means take with Him. There is no eternal soul. Only God has immortality. (1Tim6:16) Immortality is given to us when Christ returns (1Corth15:20; 51-55) Man became a living soul when God breathed into the man He formed in the dust... he became a living soul Gen2:7 (he did not exist before this, nor did he exist after he died,) He still sleeps in the grave as does King David (Acts 2:34)
"WE SHALL NOT PRECEDE THOSE WHO ARE ASLEEP..." meaning we shall not precede those who are asleep (in death) Hebrews 11:8-10; 39-40
Sam bringing it home! You up for watching Christian Widener's "Abomination of Desolation" and the "Decree That Everyone Missed" videos?
So do you agree with revelation or the other books about when the new heaven will come?
Revelation 19:1, and after these things I heard a great voice of MUCH PEOPLE IN HEAVEN, saying, Alleluia; salvation, and glory, and honour, and power, unto the Lord our God. If they're IN THE Heaven,then they can only be God's people,,, and in verse's 5&6,,,a voice from the throne said,,,,,, praise our God, All ye servants and ye that fear him,both small and great,vs 6,(John),, and I heard as it were the voice of a great multitude, and as the voice of Many waters, and as the voice of mighty thunderings, saying, Alleluia: for the Lord God omnipotent reigneth.,,, chapter 20:4, and I saw thrones, and they that set upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads,or in their hands;, and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years. These are all God's people raised in the first resurrection on which the second death hath no power and they will reign with Christ as priests of God and of Christ for a thousand years.
Matthew 24:30
Well done Sam. You nailed it! That's why Catholics and Orthodox do not interpret scripture in isolation, but draw their understanding from Apostolic teaching. Not like Protestants who are constantly trying to reinvent the wheel of doctrines long defined by the Church and transmitted through Apostolic succession.
As Cardinal Newman said, to go into history is to cease to be Protestant.
You just denied the power of Holy Spirit and called Jesus a liar as He said;
"But when he, the Spirit of truth, comes, he will guide you into ALL the truth." John 16:13
The Truth is not reserved for "Cardinals" or "Theologians". Is available for all faithful believers, with the only condition - obedience to Jesus teaching:
“If you hold to my teaching, you are really my disciples. Then you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free.” John 8:31
So, we are not free because we don't know the Truth, and we don't know the Truth because we don't obey Christ Law (Jesus teaching).
"but draw their understanding from Apostolic teaching. " Do what "Apostolic Teachings" and what is taught in science class coincide? If not which is the more reliable and truthful?
Yes there are false doctrines in Protestism but Protestism itself was a response to the false doctrines and practices brought in by the Catholic Church , what your going to tell me indulgences are scriptural or the office of the pope is scriptural and many more. Then there is the wars the Catholic Church engaged in throughout its history and your going to tell me that's scriptural.
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God’s Word is the only source of Truth
Everything else is a lie
Look at the temptation in Eden or “wilderness”
Even during the life of Apostles there were false teachers
@@edwardsolecki6036 Denied the power of the Holy Spirit...?! What on earth are you saying?! 🤷♀You're just quoting randomly and not making any sense! 😏
I came to the same conclusion. The Lord says,... when you see the abomination of desolation...It means we see the Antichrist defile the temple at the half way point. Means no pre trib. Then in revelation it says,.. these are those who came out of tribulation..referring to martyrs of the tribulation. Well, you can't have martyrs if they are taken. There's only one second comming. This means he picks us up right before the battle.
The misunderstanding comes from people not understanding the 4 different types of people Jesus always referrs to. People dead in Christ, people still alive in Christ, people dead in sin and people alive in sin. The rapture is not the same as the second coming people. Thats for the Jews and those who never took the mark
The dead rise, but where are those who are alive and remain in revelation 20 ?
Very funny! 😂 I don't understand what i am reading and it gets more and more difficult and confusing to me , but let me explain it to you!
post trib.... those who were made saints in the tribulation will rise up and then those faithful servants who are still alive will also rise up to meet the Lord
I listen with great interest to the biblical studies of the Messianic Jewish brothers, Baruch Korman and Amir Tsarfati, so I agree with what they explain to us! If others come with their opinions, but who do not study the Scriptures in the original languages and according to the culture in which they were written (the Hebrew one), all interpretations are actually according to the culture of the church to which the one giving his opinion belongs! This is what this gentleman does, trying to justify his church!
It doesn't make any sense. How can this day be unexcpected when there is an ANTCHRIST on earth, mark of the beast, all mountains and islands are removed from the planet, angels preached the gospel etc. HOW CAN SOMEONE NOT NOTICE
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Just like those who weren't prepared for the flood. Some of these are terms representing God coming in his Glory and Power. I'm many perceived the Anti-Christ as he is who would follow? Angels can show up in the image of a man.
So you will be able to tell us all it will be Tuesday at noon right? Since it's so obvious to you the day and hour.
Muhammad was an antichrist as well. There have been many antichrist. Antichrist is what it sounds like and isn't a title reserved for only 1 man
If you can pinpoint even the century in which it happens it's not unexpected. And how can people think it's piece when earthquake just destroyed all mountains and sank all islands?
@Sam i am always blessed by your content, but on this have a good look at the Bible. Jesus gave a summary of the book of Revelation in Mathew 24 and in Mark 13 which talks about the great tribulation being cut short for the sake of the elect. This agrees with Revelation 7:13-14, Rev 11, Rev12, Rev13. The 3 and half years, 1230 days and 42 months all talk about the same period.
First resurrection is your baptism and receiving of sanctifying Grace in your soul
When you are saved and baptized you die and are reborn again. The Holy Spirit enters your body.
Great video. Yahushua said "he who endures till THE END will be saved." Just what this video states. There is no fly away home before the time!
Armageddon and Christ's 1000-year reign has already come and gone. We are currently living in Satan's time of deception as described in Rev 20:8.
I appreciate the explanation of Sam here. I would also like to hear about the great tribulations. There are 7 tribulations that are mentioned in the bible. They are mentioned chronologically. I think they have to happen before the final judgment comes.
The bible is full of contradictions and fallacies. Science has disproved all of Genesis. Why would you believe anything else it claims?
@@TboneWTF A motherhood statement without proofs is useless. Can you tell me your beliefs instead? Let's see if your beliefs can stand scrutiny. Don't tell me what you don't believe. Tell me what you believe.
@ " Don't tell me what you don't believe. Tell me what you believe." Are you stating that science does not show that Genesis is a lye? Lets stay on topic here. if you are refuting my comment please point out exactly what is correct in what Genesis claims and support what you believe with evidence? Good luck.
@@TboneWTF Explain in science how life began. Genesis mentioned how life began. The big bang doesn't contradict the bible. As I have guessed, you don't have any beliefs at all. What you have is disbelieve in God but you have no alternative belief that is fool proof. I want the details on how life began according to your own knowledge.
Scientists cannot create life from non-life (aka abiogenesis) until now. If you are really a man of science you would accept the result of the experiments because the result of the experiments are the facts. Everything else is wishful thinking.
@ Hello? My friend why did you become silent? Was it something I said?
The 1000 years feels like a day and a day like 1000 years, maybe the day of the lord is 1000 years of burning and rebuilding the new world. But in our new bodies we will feel the same 1000 years feels like a day and a day like 1000 years
Part 2/3 Now let's dive into Scripture.
There are some basic rules to Bible prophecy. #1 it's always literal. Even when there are symbols and "years" once you use Scripture to interpret these symbols the prophecy will be completed literally. Jesus fulfilled over 100 prophecies literally.
Jesus went to extraordinary lengths to show us how specific Bible prophecy is fulfilled. In Matt 21 He sends the Disciples to get a specific donkey for Him to ride into Jerusalem from Zechariah 9:9
“Rejoice greatly, O daughter of Zion! Shout, O daughter of Jerusalem! Behold, your King is coming to you; He is just and having salvation, Lowly and riding on a donkey, A colt, the foal of a donkey."
That specific donkey was chosen to fulfil this prophecy exactly as it was written.
Matt 21: Now when they drew near Jerusalem, and came to Bethphage, at the Mount of Olives, then Jesus sent two disciples, 2 saying to them, “Go into the village opposite you, and immediately you will find a donkey tied, and a colt with her. Loose them and bring them to Me. 3 And if anyone says anything to you, you shall say, ‘The Lord has need of them,’ and immediately he will send them.” 4 All this was done that it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the prophet, saying:
5 “Tell the daughter of Zion, ‘Behold, your King is coming to you, Lowly, and sitting on a donkey, A colt, the foal of a donkey.’ ”
6 So the disciples went and did as Jesus commanded them. 7 They brought the donkey and the colt, laid their clothes on them, and set Him on them.
Jesus in John 13:19 says 19 "Now I tell you before it comes, that when it does come to pass, you may believe that I am."
This doesn't mean ALL of Scripture is literal, it means ALL of Bible prophecy is literal. 1 Cor 15:3-4 3 For I delivered to you first of all that which I also received: that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures, 4 and that He was buried, and that He rose again the third day according to the Scriptures..."
Did Jesus literally live, die, was buried and rose again bodily? Yes. "According to the Scriptures" which was the Old Testament (since they didn't have the NT). We are to take prophecy literally Deut 18: what is predicted will come to pass or it's not from the LORD.
Genesis 7- 11 In the six hundredth year of Noah’s life, in the second month (2nd month), the seventeenth day of the month (17th day), on that day all the fountains of the great deep were broken up, and the windows of heaven were opened.
Genesis 8: 3 And the waters receded continually from the earth. At the end of the hundred and fifty days (150 days) the waters decreased. 4 Then the ark rested in the seventh month (7th month), the seventeenth day of the month (17th day), on the mountains of Ararat.
From 2nd month 17th day to 7th month 17th day = 5 months of 150 days = 30 days per month.
Isaiah 66:23 And it shall come to pass That from one New Moon to another (30 days- 29.5 according to NASA), And from one Sabbath to another, All flesh shall come to worship before Me,” says the Lord.
Daniel 9:25-26 (I am copying a reply I sent to a Jewish man but it shows Prophecy uses a 360 day calendar, it's using the Orthodox Jewish translation)
25 Have da’as, therefore, and get seichel, that from the going forth of the decree to restore and to rebuild Yerushalayim (Jerusalem) unto Moshiach Nagid (Messiah Prince) shall be shivah (seven) heptads (weeks) and threescore (3x20= 60) and two heptads (2 weeks); the rechov shall be built again, and the charutz, even in troublous times. (7 weeks) and (62 weeks) = 69 weeks out of 70 weeks (verse 24)
26 And after threescore and two heptads (62 weeks), yikaret (will be cut off) Moshiach [Yeshayah 53:8], but not for himself
This tells us that 69 weeks or 173,880 days from the "decree to rebuild Jerusalem" 445 BC (found in Nehemiah 2:1-6)
www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/timeline-for-the-history-of-jerusalem-4500-bce-present
445-425 BCE - Nehemiah the Prophet Rebuilds the Walls of Jerusalem; City Confined to Eastern Hill
to the Messiah will be "yikaret" (cut off, cut down, killed, destroyed, or perish,)
Add 173,880 days which is Nisan (Passover) 32AD
26 And after threescore and two heptads, yikaret (will be cut off killed) Moshiach [Yeshayah 53:8], but not for himself
69 weeks of years = 483 years x 360 days per year in 173,880 days from the decree to rebuild Jerusalem to the killing of Messiah the Prince.
Nehemiah 2:1 says the decree went out Nisan 445 BC. 173,880 days into our Gregorian calendar of 365.25 days per year is 476.0575 years.
Nisan 445 BC- Nisan 1 BC = 444 years (476.0575 -444 =32.0575) Nisan 1 AD +32.0575 = 32 AD Nisan 1+ .0575 (21 Days) = Nisan 22 (Passover) 32AD the killing of Messiah the Prince but not for Himself.
And the next part of the verse 26 says the Messiah the Prince needs to be cut off BEFORE the destruction of the Temple and Jerusalem.
“And after the sixty-two weeks Messiah shall be cut off, but not for Himself; And the people of the prince who is to come Shall destroy the city and the sanctuary. (70AD)
(end of study)
So 1 week is 7 years with the years being 360 days per year or = 2,520 days because we know how to calculate the 69 weeks prior. Daniel 9:27 says this week is divided in half 2- 3.5 years.
Now knowing Revelation was written post 70AD this will show why the 70th week was not fulfilled before or at 70AD.
In Revelation 11:1-2 we see the new Temple being built, as the one Jesus walked out of in Matthew 24:1-2 has been destroyed. Second, Rev 11:3 says 3 And I will give power to my two witnesses, and they will prophesy 1,260 days, clothed in sackcloth.”
1,260 days is important because it's exactly 3.5 years when using a 360 day calendar.
So in Revelation 11:3 have we ever seen 2 invincible witnesses preach for 3.5 years or 1,260 days in Jerusalem? No. Have we then seen the killed and lay in the streets for 3.5 days? No. Have we seen them then resurrected and taken up to Heaven? No. This is all spelled out in Revelation 11.
Rev 11:7 When they (2 invincible witnesses) finish their testimony (1,260 days or 3.5 years), the beast that ascends out of the bottomless pit will make war against them, overcome them, and kill them.
Rev 13:1 the beast arises - verse 3b "And all the world marveled and followed the beast. 4 So they worshiped the dragon who gave authority to the beast; and they worshiped the beast, saying, “Who is like the beast? Who is able to make war with him?”
5 And he was given a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies, and he was given authority to continue for forty-two months. 6 Then he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme His name, His tabernacle, and those who dwell in heaven. 7 It was granted to him to make war with the saints and to overcome them. And authority was given him over every tribe, tongue, and nation."
the beast was given authority over the earth for 42 months or 3.5 years.
2 witnesses preach for 3.5 years then they are killed by a "beast" and the beast is given authority over the earth for 3.5 years. = a 7 year timeframe. That early Christians verify that's what they taught.
This isn't rocket science. Had Christians read and studied the Bible from Genesis they would see the Bible uses a 360 day calendar. When you get to Daniel you see Jesus was crucified Nisan 32 AD using a 360 day calendar for 69 weeks. Then knowing this you see 1 week the 70th week is separate after the destruction of the Temple and Jerusalem in 70AD then verse 27 begins. So there is a 7 year period of 2,520 days (7 x 360 days) divided into 2. 2 periods of 1,260 days. Then we see in Revelation 11 which was written post 70AD about 2 invincible witnesses reaching for 1,260 days (the first half of the 70th week) and then the "beast" whoever he is kills them which no one else could and in Rev 13 reigns over the earth for 42 months or 3.5 years for a total of 7 years.
Why Christians repeat this nonsense of no 7 year period I will never understand it is such absurdity and shows such a lack of biblical literacy.
So now we have a data point. Revelation 11 begins the 70th week or 7 years before the 2nd Coming of Jesus.
Revelation 4:1 After these things I looked, and behold, a door standing open in heaven. And the first voice which I heard was like a trumpet speaking with me, saying, “Come up here, and I will show you things which must take place after this.” (The future from 95AD)
In Revelation 5 we see Jesus is given a scroll with 7 Seals.
Revelation 6 we see Seals 1,2,3,4,5,6 broken in numerical order.
Rev 8:1 Seal 7 is broken.
Rev 8:2 AFTER Seal 7, we are introduced to 7 Trumpets
Rev 8:7 Trumpet 1 is blown and through Rev 9 we see Trumpets 1,2,3,4,5,6 are blown in numerical order.
Rev 11:3 the 2 witnesses preach for 1,260 days they are killed, resurrected and ascend then in Rev 11:15 Trumpet 7 is blown. This is an important order to understand.
Seal 6 is BEFORE Seal 7 which is BEFORE Trumpet 1 Which is BEFORE Trumpet 6 Which is BEFORE the 7 years or 70th week begins in Rev 11. So there is a 7 year period called the 70th week in Scripture.
(Continued in Part 3)
So using this same exact argument you’re using Sam . Please answer me, were does it say to pray to Mary? Where does it say to chant a memorized prayer? Where does it say to converse with spirits?
The problem as I see it is people are to locked into the 7's being consecutive and concurrent without taking any of the physical aspects into account. Below I've provided the most realistic and logical view of what is happening and about to happen:
Below would be a true post tribulation scenario and provides an answer to what damages the sun, it allows for the heavens and stars to still be available for the 4th trumpet (common current thesis(s) do not).
Seals 1-5 (prior and leading up to Daniel's 70th week, birth pains that give birth to the tribulation)
Trumpets 1-5 (peace, peace from the war, then the end will come, these events cause the damage during the 1st 3.5 years, with Abaddon coming out from the abyss) (the 4th trumpet causes the damage to the sun)
Bowls 1-5 (these are the effects of the trumpets occurring the next 3.5 years)
Seal 6, trumpet 6, bowl 6 (I believe Rev 16:15 is clear, Jesus Himself is stating He has not returned, and this statement is after the 6th bowl)
7th seal (rapture)
7th trumpet, & bowl.
And please remember everything takes time to unfold, no snapping of fingers and poof it's all done.
My understanding. Before rapture is resurrection, before resurrection is earthquake , before earthquake, it rains fallen angels.
Can you say what your learning experience has been? Is this what you were taught in science class?
@@Gary-nl2rd Armageddon and Christ's 1000-year reign has already come and gone. We are currently living in Satan's time of deception as described in Rev 20:8.
Matthew 13:30
Let both grow together until the harvest. At that time I will tell the harvesters: First collect the weeds and tie them in bundles to be burned; then gather the wheat and bring it into my barn.’”
APOLLOS TO HIERASTHENES, GREETING.-
1 TOUCHING the matter whereby thou didst enquire in thy last epistle, I will inform thee even as I have received. I Appollos was in my house in Nazareth after the Holy City had been taken by the Romans, and the Temple of God destroyed, even as the Lord had told us.
2 And as the sun went down and I was resting from my work, the room was filled with a bright light and there appeared unto me Agella., my sister (who had been reported as dead with many others of the brethren who were in the Holy City at the time of the siege and who have never since been seen by any to this day).
3 And Agella spake to me saying, BROTHER, why grievest thou for me, and for the fall of Ierusalem and for the Holy House. Grieve rather that thou wast left behind when we with others of the brethren who were ready were taken up from the earth.
4 For when the city was sorely besieged and the battle was the most fierce and the confusion great and terrible, there was seen by all a great wonder in the heavens.
5 For the Lord himself appeared from the clouds with her to whom he first appeared after he rose from the dead, who announced his resurrection to the twelve, and the holy angels, according to the word that he Spake unto us while he was in the flesh.
6 And we who sore longed for deliverance and were ready for his appearance were caught up to him in the clouds with Iohn, who alone of the twelve remained (whether in the body or out of the body I knew not).
7 It was in a moment and we were changed in the twinkling of an eye, and those who were his enemies saw it and fled in great confusion and fell on the swords of the Romans and perished, and to me alone has it been given that I should appear unto thee for thy comfort my brother, and for the consolation of those that are left behind and those that shall come after them, that they may believe in the words spoken by the Lord before he suffered.
8 Farewell brother, and go and comfort those that are left, for there will arise those who will deny that he returned as he said, because none of those who saw his appearance are left behind to witness thereof.
9 But believe thou that the Christ shall return again at the end of the Age in glory.
10 AND I arose and went to some of the brethren and told them these things, but they seemed to them as an idle tale, for they answered, If thy sister and the others were taken, why have we been left behind in the misery of this world? Surely they have fallen by the sword also, and it was a vision, and we which are left behind shall perish likewise?
11 And I returned to my home and held my peace, for I was in doubt, and said, If the thing is true it will be brought to light in a future day, for the Lord certainly did say that "before this generation should pass away all these things should be," even as my sister hath told me they have been.
12 They who are with me salute thee. Peace be with thee, and to all in thine house.
The first resurrection began with Christ as Firstfruits. The main harvest is 1 thes 4:16-17 and rev 20:4 is the gleaning. Notice rev 20:4 who is resurrected. Only the beheaded who didn't take the mark or worships the beast. Where is everyone else?
I had a thought that he said the day of the lord and 1000 years feels like a day and a day like 1000 years. Maybe when we get our new bodies and we are in the air it feels like a day, but it's really 1000 years passing on earth and that is the lake of fire as the new earth is being formed from the fire
Is it safe to assume that, as 1k years is 1 day for God, Jesus' 2nd coming includes the Resurrection, His reign, satan's biding and the Final Judgement all in one day?
The key is dispensational right division.
I agree , most people don't read the bible, they just repeat what others say, with that said, I would like to know why people skip to the last trumpet and no one talks about the sign of Jonah, the Lord promised to send or where it talk's about before the Lord comes back, he says, that Elias shall truly come first and restore all things, meaning our mind's will be cleansed of evil spirit's, this will happen before the last trumpet and I still don't know where it says 7 year's. But good job brother of pointing this out. I just call myself a Christian, kinda of tired of these different denominations. God bless
also Matthew 13 40-43 is describing the final day talked about by peter, paul, and john. the weeds being pulled up is the same as when he burns up the night before the new kingdom. righteous called up that day and when nightfalls and choas is among the earth bc people have zero clue why people just vanished and once night falls its game over for the remaining wickedness. same sequence as the other authors. Righteous called/ Evil destroyed/ new heaven and earth!
I think we have a misunderstanding of the resurrection. Jesus referred to His coming to life again simply as "rising again". The dead in Christ coming to life again was referred to as "rising". And Jesus went up to heaven, and the dead in Christ who will rise again in 1 Thessalonians 4:16 will be with those who had been alive whose bodies were changed into incorruptible which might be the multitude in heaven, Revelation 7:9-17.
Resurrection seems to be about coming to life again, "to live on earth", those who were beheaded in the tribulation, and MAYBE all those who had been martyred in faithfulness to Jesus Christ, who will live in the millennium, the first resurrection, Revelation 20:6. And the second resurrection, will be for judgement, those who will be sent to hell, and those who will be on the new earth. And the "sanctified" church, the bride of Christ, MAY come down with the new Jerusalem, Revelation 21:2
Jesus said to pray to be able "to escape" all that is about to happen and be able to stand before Him, Luke 21:36; Revelation 7:14 may have meant those who came out to escape the tribulation, because they had lived in the Spirit, sanctified lives, 2 Thessalonians 2:13, Galatians 5:16-25, 1 Thessalonians 4:3-8. The 5 virgins taken by the bridegroom, Matthew 25:1-13
So is the thousand year reign in Revelation 20:4 simply the day of the Lord? As it says in 2nd Peter 3:8 "With the Lord a day is like a thousand years and a thousand years are like a day?
U get that from the seven feast 4 have taken place 3 left 7 complete perfection
We live in satan's little season. Both futurism and preterism are wrong.
I believe in pre-wrath rapture. Not pre-tribulation rapture. Nothing in the Bible indicates that the tribulation as a whole is the wrath of God that we will get saved from. The tribulation is mainly the beast's/satans short period of rule, not Gods wrath. The wrath of God will happen during the tribulation, probably in the end.
Beware. Satan's full lies are made up of half truths like yours.
If you're interested please watch Messiah 2030 part 1, 2 and 3.. its fascinating.