Alta 6 Pro WiFi Install: It's Next Level!
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- Опубліковано 6 чер 2023
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I just with they offered local management instead of locking you into their cloud only.
I’m pretty new to most of this what is the downsides to clouds only. Does it mean without internet I cannot change settings?
@@defyiant It means if the company goes out of business or if the internet is down you can no longer configure them.
@@defyianthigher expense to maintain the servers that host the controller. Expect a monthly cost eventually.
This is exactly why I'm sticking with UniFi.. it's not perfect but at least it's under my control.
This feature exists since ages.. it's called multiple pre shared key, mpsk, dpsk...etc every enterprise vendor has a name for it. That said, it's amazing to see it in an entry level product.
I use the Aruba Instant On range, similar setup with me need to have a controller which helps massively. The good thing with them is that it is based on the enterprise Aruba Networks kit, just a lower cost version so the support is really good and price is similar to the Ubiquiti’s of the world
These APs Sound Like Exactly What I Need🔥
Great video! We are really impressed with Alta and their new products.
Boy this looks great!!
Using a Linksys mesh just now but these access points might be a good reason to swap
Looks good for a new company but you only really need the controller you mentioned for external access, otherwise all access points are pretty much plug and play with the same web based settings page for management locally.
It does not have local management, their cloud only.
Does the Hotspot setting have a splash page for FB and Insta or does it have pay for access guest network with credit card or Paypal billing?
Nice one Alex keep up the good work thanks
for speed limiting - is that a cap on the entire connection? i.e. if 5 devices are connected with the same password, and I set that passwords connection speed to 20 down / 2 up - then all devices connecting with the same password have to split that 20/2 connection ?
OR does it give each device connected with that pw a 20/2 connection per device, and 5 devices would end up using up to a total of 100 down / 10 up ?
Alex, are you using UTP cable rated for outdoor use for the outdoor AP or just normal UTP ?
As long as he doesn't have to much interreference outside then it should be fine
He Alex can you please create a video for loadbalancing on amikrotick or tplink to combine band width thanks
I wish UA-camr would say where these are available to buy cause I’m in Canada and you can’t buy them here
very similar to the open-mesh brand that is longer but the aps and cloud portal still work just fine just cant upgrade the hardware. glad someone else came up with this.. cant stand paying fees / having a controller.
This is quite Impressive for a system like that
I really like it having a single SSID tbf which is quite nice
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I must say such a genius with the ssid and password. You have sold me
Am tempted but not fully convinced. I'd need to see more of the options the dash provides and test the device over distance.
I like the idea with the SSID though, that is genius
Where can I buy your products from?……
And what are the real speed you actually get on your access point…..
Do you have a App like ubiquity?
@@dave_trenholm the SSID thing is calls SSID with PPSK, almost all the major vendors support this & its not new. UniFi has just rolled this our a few months ago
@@TJ-bc6ug If you are used to UniFi do not switch to alta labs
do you still have to have a good internet connection or does these give you really good wifi with just these products ?
Well u need to have a strong internet connections, but f your doing things within your home network like NAS, media streaming and the likes its obviously going to better things
Your speed wwill always be limited to what your ISP providesb
Hello ! Available in France ? Can u give me the Price for one acces point please ?
The trouble with new wifi toys right now (especially considering the size of investment wifi 6 represents) is wifi 7 is just around the corner. I'm even holding off on installing multimode in my house because of the implications of wifi 7 until we get some real-world numbers.
unifi doesn't need a controller in it's stand alone mode.
The controller you can use a raspberry pi or if you already have a server you can run the controller off of that. Yes these controllers would probably cost something but either not that much or it's on something that you're already running.
can you reset the APs remotly in the dashboard if they are connected by POE?
Not yet, but the feature is coming!
Depends on the switch that you are using. It’s easy to issue commands to HPE or Cisco switches to power cycle APs
You say this is based online...what happens if that company goes bust?
My thoughts exactly
We guarantee our cloud for the life of the product.
1) same thing that happens if any other tech company goes bust. devices are no longer supported and you should buy something new that will be supported.
2) they have an on prem controller coming.
Alex I always like your videos...but in this one im not sure your fully comparing apples with apples. Have your unifi speed tests been conducted via a Unifi controller that doesnt have security throttling enabled, like IPS, which would throttles your WAN speed? Failing that the devices do seem a good way to bypass a few hundred pounds on a controller if someone else offers it as part of the price.
I agree with you! For me there is also another important thing… to have a local contoller!
Yeah probably isn't even the same channels, All my Unifi APs hit 600mbit
Great video
I also use virgin media for gaming but it gives higher ping then other providers is there anything we can do to lower it it’s the same on Wi-Fi and Ethernet
Lick the end of the Ethernet cable and put it in the router. Makes a better connection.
mmm Alex i been using wifi 6 for ages around my place. I must say tho i like the looks of that hardware. I current use eero pro 6.
Is that connection a mesh system.
Reading the blur yes they can be MESH.
Cambium Networks does that password based VLANing they call it ePSK
These look awesome but you make it look so easy…..😢 I wish I could do the seat but not got a clue
Very cool that SSID multiple password option, never seen that before!
alot of the network vendors already have it. Its called SSID with PPSK, UniFi just rolled it our a few months ago
anyone else notice his little tummy role at 1:48
nice video!
Why did you have Unifi Long Range APs for inside your property?
Because every single property is different, and LR is NO guarantee it’ll spread far in your house.
i thought you’d had Unifi6?
Upload moooooooooore💪💪
Needing an online account and an internet connection for setup instantly makes it a worse solution than others like Unify. Being able to install a controller locally or host your controller for free locally makes security miles better and makes setting up and managing possible when your internet connection goes down.
Another absolutly crap for online, if connection going down, goodby AP
Have you used a cloud controller before? Once you switch you will never go back. These APs stay up even if the internet goes out.
So true!!!
@@ps5gamepl4ys Not goodbye AP. It isn't Meraki
@@jeff-hansen unifi works that way too even if there is a local controller. He's referring to not being able to manage & view the AP's without internet which you can't do with Alta Lab anything
The magic behind the auto linking when logging in raises some privacy concerns around how much Alta Will know about your network & potentially the traffic?
12:40 Of those 4 access points, 3 are using the same channel.
Isn’t it ironic his tv buffers behind him
Downside is that data is being sent out of your network to a site. So I prefer personally to have it all in house with ubiquity.
You don't need a controller to manage the TP link stuff, you can use it as stand alone. That's wrong info Alex.
Thanks guys.
I am using to link deco which to be fair never give me any trouble apart from speed....but I will admit these have that speed advantage....
Just out of interest what is your ISP speed?(coming into the premises)
He said 600mbps
Although I enjoy these videos, getting excited over having the same SSID and different passwords show lack of experience with enterprise wifi solutions. As a qualified professional, I've seen this on many other vendors like Aerohive networks (Extreme networks they're now called) gear.
Thanks forid200. You’re right. The feature certainly isn’t new in the market place. Just what we are doing with it is. There is so much more behind Alta Labs access points. We would love to have you take a look at everything our platform has to offer.
The feature is also the opposite of a benefit if you can't split the SSIDs into separate networks the same as Unifi. Imagine connecting to the SSID then wanting to switch to the other network, you would have to forget the network and then enter the password every time you wanted to switch. Seems more like a gimmick
@@paddyd9615 You can have multiple SSIDs per site. The password ideology is to help clean up broadcast traffic. We also give you the ability to take individual client devices and move them to a different network type from within the management platform, so you don’t have to forget and rejoin network devices as you mention.
Alex doesn't have any experience with enterprise solutions. He doesn't have any networking experience
@@chaseharrison5869 unifi already had that before you did & their management interface is far superiour than yours.
This is obviously a far superior product! 🎉🎉🎉
its really not
I'm still very happy with my Netgear Orbi AC3000 triple pack (wi-fi 5) and probably wont upgrade it till wi-fi 7 is out at a fairly decent price.
Alex, your belly is sticky out, is this another AP? (New Belly AP made by AlexnCo)
I don’t see the value in these if you’re in the Unifi ecosystem, but would be useful in other scenarios. My Unifi APs already get the speeds that were shown in the video. Single SSID is nice, but I would rather have one management software solution than two.
what do you mean 1 management software than 2? Also UniFi already rolled out the SSID with PSK a few months ago. If you have UniFi you can configure it on your end right now.
What's gaming like does it suffer with bufferbloat pal
'And it's all managed online.........' Hmmmph no thanks :).
Clever they may be but just online management does not inspire me with confidence
yeah im not trusting my stuff in the cloud - gl hf ill stick with ubiquiti thanks :)
isn't showing your ip address dangerous? (like DDOS attacks)
apart from that, really well rounded and detailed review alex :)
are you sure it wasnt a bogon IP address?
Depends if it's Dynamic it will change, if it is Static then you have a general concern.
@@Jozefbonnar it probably is, i've just heard of the stories of youtubers and streamers showing ip addresses and its not good 😅
@@LordGooben knowing alex with years of networking, it probably is dynamic, useful to know the difference tho 😊
@@benbenboy1230 NP
Hi Alex. I own a smart home installation company called Luxeia. Could we have a chat about some sort of collaboration. I am also from the UK.
Hey Alex. Can you control the Alta access points with the ubiquity UDM Pro instead of using the Alta cloud ? Thanks.
Any ideas?
@@reviewsyoucanuse6747 Don’t think this would be possible. Nothing in it for Ubiquiti to develop their free controller for other hardware vendors
this is like asking a samsung watch to be connected & sync'd with a IPhone. The answer is no & that is a really dumb question since UniFi AP's are far superior.
@@nitrogarbo1589thanks for being a complete ass hole.
@@nitrogarbo1589 hey ass hole. How about remove your dick head comment.
Hi, Alex Brooks, I love your video and your video format and positioning align well with our smart product. Are you interested in collaborating with me? Thanks
I wish i had good internet i get 25 download
Must admit I am a little sceptical. I am very unsure on the auto linking I like everything to be very transparent. I would prefer not to have gimmicks and stick with the legacy brand for now, I cannot imagine any serious, large business running these being cloud based
No not just reliability but data security is what you should be promoting through reliable brands not backhanders from new companies
"Finally"???
Love your videos but wouldn't really call it next gen wifi, very misleading...
hi
Hiyah
Another question you said you was using Ubiquiti UniFi 6 Long-Range Access Point ….. is that the reason why the speed is a different…..
Because why aren’t you using Ubiquiti UniFi 6 Pro Acces Point Wifi 6
Because that’s more of a comparison…….. because if you use in a long-range AccessPoint it’s going to be using 2.4 not five or six
Maybe you are using them access point set forgot to mention it , and it’s not true, you can set up a ubiquity access point, and not have a cloud key
/….. I get what you were saying, you can set up this device and have full control like a access key
will stick with unifi sooo much cleaner and already does this
This isn't the future because it already lacks Wifi 6e/7 which companies are offering. Very basic understanding of networking here.
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He'll be back. If he were to buy new ubiquity wifi 6 APs he'd have better performing with the ability to manage his empire of Ubiquity devices.
UA-camrs were flooded with these which really devalue the product.
OK so it actually uses a cloud controller even though you said it does not need one. Cloud controller is a huge NO NO for me
You? Looking for a windows key? 🤣🤣🤣 We all know you only ever use MACs. Even if you did use windows, you can create a windows boot drive for free and if you needed a key, you can reuse your key MANY times.
honestly if it was wifi 7 I would have got them. now anyone should get wifi 6e or higher
man what has happened to you?!
shame its only cloud based, worst idea. no privacy there...and if they go out of business or stop supporting it its basically a brick
Borderline illegal not declaring that these were gifted in the video while he shills them for the whole video. Real lack of integrity compared to others in the space
What do you mean? Reviewers and influencers are gifted product to try out all the time. No one is paying him to give the review he did.
Just checked out the price what a rip off probably end up buying them for my new property one outside 2 indoors
Totally depends on what market you’re coming from. For the enterprise (non home) market these are actually an amazing deal.
@@jeff-hansen They aren't an "amazing deal" UniFi offers more features, better security & insurances on updates for all products. The alta labs AP's are more expensive than UniFI