Already nerfed. Don't make sense... Why GTC nerfed? Asgore and Jevil don't get anything, no nerfs, An explanation of why I think they should be nerfed: Although they are easy to counter, they are also difficult, like, asgore 4 if you have 230+ ping il make you waste more than 10 stamina, like jevil 2 + 3 (P1), And besides, both are very spammable, asgore with superarmor abuse (literally) and Jevil spam abuse, I8chesse and others devs who "balance" this don't know how to balance the characters...
@Thetruemasterofcats It depends. Honestly, Jevil should be buffed in phase 2, and in phase 1 a mini nerf at least using 2 and 3. Because in most cases, you spend a lot of stamina and it's very difficult to get out of combos.
my question is why nerf sans, ik they had made tele 1 sort of “better” but sans’ m1s were already slower end yet they still made his m1s the slowest in the game
@nickbeeu3441 So I had this same question, and honestly he didn't deserve this nerf either. The creators and devs just don't know how to balance characters, that's it.
Gaster when he appeared was already balanced at the level of Undyne and Asgore, but since he is somehow connected with Sans, they are trying to kill these characters (I think this is because in Soulshatters Sans was too strong, because of this they hated him)
Suggestion for gaster nerfs (it is still unfair af) phase 1 1 is fully blockable, no longer slowed down on miss (this was literally a buff) gaster cant lmb during phase 1 1 gaster 4 and 7 for phase 2 STILL needs damage nerfs gaster 5: reduce damage of all mimic abilities by 50%, you get the combos and value of 2 characters at once which is op af gaster 5 mimic time reduced to what it was previously (it got shadow buffed) phase 1 gaster ult super armor removed phase 2 gaster ult windup increased to 2.25 seconds (TRUST ME ITS TRUE IF THE OPPONENT HAS LITERALLY 16 STAM)
Gaster doing 50 dmg with just a fast beam attack that is connectable: Anyways, Asgore and Jevil get none. And then we got SSchara still being the MOST ASS character ever.
@Mr_slim_survival In short: It troubles your movement, making it easier for gaster to catch you in lmb, making it a huge buff unless opponent has better ping or is a lot stronger in skill to be able to both dodge and/or block the hand, and avoid gaster's lmb. Long: it's quite hard, i mean, as always everything depends on skill difference and ping, but its one of skills that makes it quite hard to avoid, it is quite similar to Jevil, people often to this day struggle with such a simple combo like 2>3, same story with gaster, first attack on phase 1 if used on right distance makes it quite difficult for opponent to stop the attack, it wastes a lot of stamina to just run around from it, blocking is also not an option for most players since gaster can easily run towards you and break your block, and dasing away from attack after blocking depends on ping, it is difficult to do so if your ping is 100+ (which is average in this game for most people, i ask about people's ping in every fight to know how to act), so only option is to run towards gaster and catch him in lmb, but here's another difficulty in the same attack, since you are the one who's limited in moving around, gaster can either block and wait for you to get stunned and if you block attack you with lmb, or just avoid you and try to catch in lmb anyway.
They dont need to nerf a character, who can only deal 45 dmg to Asgore with full combo. Also, it is easy to dodge nearly all of his attacks, you can just hit him during 1, 2, 3, 4. Asriel is the real problem and needs to be nerfed. 500 totale hp and VERY good attacks with that one GoH combo are not ok. I am dont even want to talk about Sans, GTChara and Jevil, who was nerfed to the ground (yes, Jevil was heavely nerfed with his phase 1 2 cooldown after 4 and phase 2 2 huge dmg nerf)
Already nerfed. Don't make sense... Why GTC nerfed? Asgore and Jevil don't get anything, no nerfs, An explanation of why I think they should be nerfed: Although they are easy to counter, they are also difficult, like, asgore 4 if you have 230+ ping il make you waste more than 10 stamina, like jevil 2 + 3 (P1), And besides, both are very spammable, asgore with superarmor abuse (literally) and Jevil spam abuse, I8chesse and others devs who "balance" this don't know how to balance the characters...
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Jevil is someone needs a buff yes he can spam but his cool downs and many counters(asgore have 4 moves that easily does) make it more fair
@Thetruemasterofcats It depends. Honestly, Jevil should be buffed in phase 2, and in phase 1 a mini nerf at least using 2 and 3. Because in most cases, you spend a lot of stamina and it's very difficult to get out of combos.
my question is why nerf sans, ik they had made tele 1 sort of “better” but sans’ m1s were already slower end yet they still made his m1s the slowest in the game
@nickbeeu3441 So I had this same question, and honestly he didn't deserve this nerf either. The creators and devs just don't know how to balance characters, that's it.
Gaster when he appeared was already balanced at the level of Undyne and Asgore, but since he is somehow connected with Sans, they are trying to kill these characters (I think this is because in Soulshatters Sans was too strong, because of this they hated him)
Suggestion for gaster nerfs (it is still unfair af)
phase 1 1 is fully blockable, no longer slowed down on miss (this was literally a buff)
gaster cant lmb during phase 1 1
gaster 4 and 7 for phase 2 STILL needs damage nerfs
gaster 5: reduce damage of all mimic abilities by 50%, you get the combos and value of 2 characters at once which is op af
gaster 5 mimic time reduced to what it was previously (it got shadow buffed)
phase 1 gaster ult super armor removed
phase 2 gaster ult windup increased to 2.25 seconds (TRUST ME ITS TRUE IF THE OPPONENT HAS LITERALLY 16 STAM)
@@gatimax7 Fr
This is pre nerf gaster, he is alright now
Gaster doing 50 dmg with just a fast beam attack that is connectable:
Anyways, Asgore and Jevil get none. And then we got SSchara still being the MOST ASS character ever.
I have no idea what to nerf him, maybe just his defense..since the damage that the characters do to him is very little.
blatsers dmg, phase 1 hand 1, its nearly undodgable
@@TheKris.The hell u mean undodgable, just dash and block
@Mr_slim_survival
In short:
It troubles your movement, making it easier for gaster to catch you in lmb, making it a huge buff unless opponent has better ping or is a lot stronger in skill to be able to both dodge and/or block the hand, and avoid gaster's lmb.
Long:
it's quite hard, i mean, as always everything depends on skill difference and ping, but its one of skills that makes it quite hard to avoid, it is quite similar to Jevil, people often to this day struggle with such a simple combo like 2>3, same story with gaster, first attack on phase 1 if used on right distance makes it quite difficult for opponent to stop the attack, it wastes a lot of stamina to just run around from it, blocking is also not an option for most players since gaster can easily run towards you and break your block, and dasing away from attack after blocking depends on ping, it is difficult to do so if your ping is 100+ (which is average in this game for most people, i ask about people's ping in every fight to know how to act), so only option is to run towards gaster and catch him in lmb, but here's another difficulty in the same attack, since you are the one who's limited in moving around, gaster can either block and wait for you to get stunned and if you block attack you with lmb, or just avoid you and try to catch in lmb anyway.
@@Mr_slim_survival You must have good reflexes and little lag, something very difficult to have both at the same time
@El_artesano20097 u just need to train for reflexes and ur good, there is not much u can do about lag
Idk how they could nerf him more other than remove 1 on phase 1
Huh? I don't understand;-;
@@Bread0069 its free combo starter
Nerf dmg or longer cool down on that 1 😭🙏
@Thetruemasterofcats they need to make no lmb on that, they also need to nerf the ults and gaster blaster kr,nerf a make debuf lag.
Ults should not be usable with moveset stealer
too bad their discord servers a info only and you cant suggest anything
Wait a minute... Why are the atk/def buffed???🙂
This is pre nerf gaster
They dont need to nerf a character, who can only deal 45 dmg to Asgore with full combo. Also, it is easy to dodge nearly all of his attacks, you can just hit him during 1, 2, 3, 4. Asriel is the real problem and needs to be nerfed. 500 totale hp and VERY good attacks with that one GoH combo are not ok. I am dont even want to talk about Sans, GTChara and Jevil, who was nerfed to the ground (yes, Jevil was heavely nerfed with his phase 1 2 cooldown after 4 and phase 2 2 huge dmg nerf)
Actually asriel has 350 hp
@tapo3920 1st phase 150, second 200, third 150. They buffed it
Phase 2 and three use the same hp, so yeah, 350. @@unluckyminecultist
To be fair, he's an event character soooooo.
It’s the first event character?
@skulltimelapse4308 yes
@skulltimelapse4308 if you're wondering what the event is. You basically fight three phases of gaster, and the second phase is literally hell.
@@Knightwithlightning55 I know
@@Knightwithlightning55it was more like 3.5
ok