Great to see reviews and tweeks of routine manoeuvres and also some alterations to the rigging in use. Thanks Joe. I always find it more fun to race around the waters with other cat sailors than alone...something I'm guessing you at Vassiliki beach club have no shortage of.
During the tack you performed at 4 minutes you spent about 7 seconds in irons before regaining forward speed, as evidenced by the lack of wake at the stern. The tack at 5 minutes took 5 seconds (in irons). Both of those tacks were done with loose downhaul and loose jib . Then you tightened the downhaul, because "the downhaul makes a lot of difference." During the tack at 6 minutes you backwinded the jib to "pull the front of the boat across." That tack with the added benefit of downhaul and backwinding took an additional 4-5 seconds to get under way. The next tack at 8 minutes showed roughly 12 seconds in irons before regaining any forward speed. The tack at 8:45 took 9 seconds. So it looks like your fastest tacks were done with loose downhaul and loose jib. Why do you suppose that is? My theory is that in light wind you want a loose downhaul. The middle of a tack is very light wind, so to me, that makes sense. Similarly, if you are in light wind, you want a loose jib. When I used to sail, we always loosened the jib first before coming in off the rail. As I slid under the sail, the crew tightened the jib slightly on the new side. The lift effect of the wind over an aerodynamic jib is what "pulls the front of the boat across," not the drag effect of backwinding it. When she heard the ratchet on my mainsheet, she tightened the jib. Unfortunately I did not have the benefit of cameras, but I can tell you my Hobie 16 moved through the tack faster than I could move - in other words, I overtacked by 20 to 30 degrees and had to head up to get back on course. We used to do a warm-up drill called 10 Tacks in 60 Seconds. We never were able to pull it off, but it's a good practice for emergency tacking. During a race you need the confidence to know you can tack faster than your nearby opponent.
Thanks for giving the video a full analysis! I think like you said in previous loosening the jib prior to the tack lets it fly though easier and it puts more shape into the sail meaning that it pulls the bows round more. Less downhaul i'd think would get the boat back up to speed quicker in lighter winds.
@@JoyriderTV I was sailing my H-16 in the late 80s and early 90s back when the 6:1 downhaul was illegal as hell. But I had one, heh, heh. I could release the downhaul in the middle of a tack and tighten it again after tightening the mainsheet. I was not competitive enough for the serious racers to complain about my tricked out boat. Check your library to see if they have any of Rick White's books on racing. He taught me the roll tack and I never looked back.
Josehp, why and how your base link for front sail on front stay are two pieces? In my case is only one to put sail and front cable from top of mast. Can you explanate for us? And another ask is how you use the cables for sails, can you use one cable for two settings? TKS
@@JoyriderTV I think is this video, i would know more about the size of the cables and when we can use for both settings, similar to main sail. The cable to front sail can we use for setting the sail and the "cars"? (I dont know the name of that piece)
@@JoyriderTV Yeah, is this the video that help me. Tks. Only one more question, at this video, on 4:16, between the "cars" has a white line, this line remain stretched, this is a elastic?
Your play-by-play is incredibly helpful -- really solidifies these lessons
Thank you again!
It's always a race!! :-)
This was sure fun to watch!
It's always a race lol love watching your videos
Great to see reviews and tweeks of routine manoeuvres and also some alterations to the rigging in use. Thanks Joe. I always find it more fun to race around the waters with other cat sailors than alone...something I'm guessing you at Vassiliki beach club have no shortage of.
Yes, always others out on the water - check out this afternoon's video in at 1730 (Greek Time)
Thanx again ... learning by watching You doing ... please sent some of Your Vassiliki afternoon wind to my Simssee (lake) here in Bavaria Germany
I will see if i can package some for you!
Catamaran is just a giant Nautilis machine what a great workout
I never heard it described as that before. Thanks!
Good videos. They make me want to come sail. Went out on a Hobie 14 yesterday had a blast.
Not hanging about, sailing and editing 👍
Even when we’re not racing, we’re racing. Even if it’s just to watch the other guy go bottoms up.
For sure!
To bear away, I'm wondering if you could push the main way out and let the jib out too... I'll have to try it. Great video, I'm inspired.
👍
Ahh Joe always a gentleman wont pass a lady
During the tack you performed at 4 minutes you spent about 7 seconds in irons before regaining forward speed, as evidenced by the lack of wake at the stern. The tack at 5 minutes took 5 seconds (in irons). Both of those tacks were done with loose downhaul and loose jib . Then you tightened the downhaul, because "the downhaul makes a lot of difference." During the tack at 6 minutes you backwinded the jib to "pull the front of the boat across." That tack with the added benefit of downhaul and backwinding took an additional 4-5 seconds to get under way. The next tack at 8 minutes showed roughly 12 seconds in irons before regaining any forward speed. The tack at 8:45 took 9 seconds. So it looks like your fastest tacks were done with loose downhaul and loose jib. Why do you suppose that is?
My theory is that in light wind you want a loose downhaul. The middle of a tack is very light wind, so to me, that makes sense. Similarly, if you are in light wind, you want a loose jib. When I used to sail, we always loosened the jib first before coming in off the rail. As I slid under the sail, the crew tightened the jib slightly on the new side. The lift effect of the wind over an aerodynamic jib is what "pulls the front of the boat across," not the drag effect of backwinding it. When she heard the ratchet on my mainsheet, she tightened the jib. Unfortunately I did not have the benefit of cameras, but I can tell you my Hobie 16 moved through the tack faster than I could move - in other words, I overtacked by 20 to 30 degrees and had to head up to get back on course.
We used to do a warm-up drill called 10 Tacks in 60 Seconds. We never were able to pull it off, but it's a good practice for emergency tacking. During a race you need the confidence to know you can tack faster than your nearby opponent.
Thanks for giving the video a full analysis! I think like you said in previous loosening the jib prior to the tack lets it fly though easier and it puts more shape into the sail meaning that it pulls the bows round more.
Less downhaul i'd think would get the boat back up to speed quicker in lighter winds.
@@JoyriderTV I was sailing my H-16 in the late 80s and early 90s back when the 6:1 downhaul was illegal as hell. But I had one, heh, heh. I could release the downhaul in the middle of a tack and tighten it again after tightening the mainsheet. I was not competitive enough for the serious racers to complain about my tricked out boat.
Check your library to see if they have any of Rick White's books on racing. He taught me the roll tack and I never looked back.
Josehp, why and how your base link for front sail on front stay are two pieces? In my case is only one to put sail and front cable from top of mast. Can you explanate for us? And another ask is how you use the cables for sails, can you use one cable for two settings? TKS
Go to 6:30 in this one - ua-cam.com/video/qZbWmSNOBdA/v-deo.html
Please explain more what you are asking about the cables.
@@JoyriderTV I think is this video, i would know more about the size of the cables and when we can use for both settings, similar to main sail. The cable to front sail can we use for setting the sail and the "cars"? (I dont know the name of that piece)
@@murilomachado5323 maybe try this one:
ua-cam.com/video/xsxMlbjEm-k/v-deo.html
@@JoyriderTV Yeah, is this the video that help me. Tks. Only one more question, at this video, on 4:16, between the "cars" has a white line, this line remain stretched, this is a elastic?
@@murilomachado5323 yes this is elastic so that the cars are pulled back in when released
Its always a race
you know it!
Does a Hobie always come to an almost stop on the tack?
Almost - but with good technique you can carry some speed through.
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