Feels a lot more personal of a threat when he’s only made of those two’s DNA. A little unfortunate Gero didn’t wanna consider Goku’s friends as good material for his creation, but that’s a side effect of him only focusing on the world’s two strongest.
That's because they are just humans. Aside from tien. Human DNA alone doesn't make a strong warrior. But Sajyan DNA that gets stronger after hard battles and Namekian DNA that can regenerate and is long living is a different story.
@@christianv.8448 Gero never learnt about Saiyans or Namekians, so the argument about biology is null. All he knows is that Goku is possibly not human and Piccolo is definitely not human. He could still pick at least Roshi's DNA..
@@DamianQualshy He knew goku has a tail and is the only "human" that has one. Dr. Gero is genius he figured it he is not a normal human and he saw that piccolo could regenerate at the last tournement fight. Cell is a bio android. Biology is key for creating it.
@christianv.8448 I meant that he doesn't know their actual potential, especially Goku's because there never was a Raditz, Vegeta or Nappa to explain that Saiyans are "the ultimate warrior race" not to mention Zenkais.
@@christianv.8448If i remember correctly, Gero only learned about the saiyans after Namek saga, beforewards he probably assumed Goku was an alien hybrid or a mutant. Which would explain why he was interested in Goku's power in the first place.
The only real hope in this Sincero is that the sacred water in kami's lookout cures Goku or at least keeps the heart virus at bay somehow The sacred water did remove the baby parasites in GT and removed the evilness that garlic jr used to infect piccolo with But I doubt it would do anything but there's a chance
If all else fails they might have to hope Piccolo (Fused with Kami) would be willing to help and allow the use of his Namekian spaceship to visit Planet Namek. Although that scenario in itself might also have it’s own issues, seeing that even if they do so the Z Fighters might have to deal with the Frieza Force (in case Frieza possibly gets interested or learns of the Namekian dragon balls somehow), along with possibly Frieza himself.
@@averageguy3661 that is also true And piccolo should be able to defeat this new cell The only problem is that after that Goku will most likely die and wouldn't be able to be resurrected by the dragon balls
@@averageguy3661They don't know where Namek is, in the official story they were only able to go to Namek because King Kai told them where the planet was and how to find it. But in this timeline, Goku never met King Kai.
You know for the little amount of screen time Raditz had he really was important for events to take place Thank you for the amazing What-Else as always 🙏
Gero should have revived him as an Android. He saw the battle yet you tell me he left a perfectly good specimen to rot? An interesting idea for a what if scenario.
Another awesome idea! It wouldn’t change the outcome really, but I can’t help but think that Piccolo would have realized something was up with Goku in this scenario. Sure he can be ruthless, but he trained for years for their rematch-I think he’d want a truer victory over Goku, maybe even returning the favor of sparing him until he can give a real fight.
This cell is still massively weaker he has no data on Freezer and his dad and literally ONLY goku for saiyan DNA. And unlike the original when the beings who made him were way above the millions in power or around 18.000. This cells strongest part is goku from the 23rd tournament who had a powerlevel of less than 400 sure piccolo is far weaker but he should easily destroy cell
Everything looks very difficult for Earth: -Goku did not know King Kai, so he does not know the Kaioken and Spirit Bomb techniques. -If Piccolo and Kami merge then the Dragon Balls will cease to exist. -Goku has heart disease and the Senzu Beans cannot cure him. -They couldn't travel to Namek because they don't know where it is. And Goku doesn't know the Instant Transmission technique either.
@@MistahMorningStarit’s a virus from earth, not yardrat that’s why reason medicine was made in the future timeline because many people on earth were getting infected and dying
@@MistahMorningStar It's never said WHAT caused the heart virus. Most attribute it to Goku's lifestyle as a kid being a wild child living in the mountains alone after Grandpa Gohan died.
i do really like this what ifs where it has a continuation from like the previous what ifs, showing the consequences of the other character's action, taking different path than they supposed to be
I wasn't sure at first What Else on how would the series end up with just dialogue and no animation, but after so many episodes which STILL brought us original designs, I'm really glad you can showcase all these different stories sitting in your head with such low effort, publishing them out that frequently. As for this one.. I wonder if you're planning Piccolo to go to Namek and revive Goku, even if it's for his pride to "defeat him on his own terms". Then we get Freeza (Raditz spilled the beans about the Dragon Balls after all), who would definitely and effortlessly end up defeated by the Super Namek.
@@Grundrisse It is a little weird, but no one jumped in or were watching from afar during the Raditz fight either. Instead of everyone being gathered at Kame House, Piccolo could've challenged Goku on a random day when he was at home. And since everyone's a lot weaker, they're all also a lot slower too, so maybe they couldn't make it in time.
So then if Piccolo wins against Cell, which is honestly quite plausible given how far ahead his fusion with Kami put him above a Super Saiyan in Canon, that leaves Gero being next for the Namekian to finish, and I can see Kami knowing where the doctor is, if not then Bulma, and unlike most Z Fighters at this point I can legit see Piccolo, especially after the mess with this Cell, not letting any loose ends so the doctor is dead. However Goku is most likely pretty much dead due to there being no way to cure him at this point in time, so by default Piccolo would be the strongest warrior on Earth, who may or not actually take Gohan to train as a potential pupil-minion and future protector of Earth, depending of how Piccolo’s personality has changed post merge, as well as all the other Z Fighters training even more immensely due to Goku’s death leaving them as the last line of defense on Earth, especially if the Namekian does turn against them. That would leave pretty much the threat of Babidi and Dabura, mainly if Piccolo and/or Gohan are strong enough by that point in time to take Dabura down before Buu is revived, which could be plausible if we go by What IF#20. GOOD LUCK!
I think this piccolo will still be weaker then the canon fusion but honestly not by far. And hes likely still stronger then 100% friezia at this point and time. The reason I think he is weaker is likely because piccolo here was no where near as powerful as he was later. But the fusion for the nameless namek is insane in power growth compared to the other fusions.
Interesting. I never thought about it in this way. Raditz not coming to earth means no space activities. No need for namek. No warning from the androids since vegeta isnt here so trunks it gone.. and gohan most likely dies fighting the androids if they do appear.
Future bulma probably could time travel back herself Or gohan could not throw his life away knowing there is no one left Tho this gohan was never taken by piccolo so he literally NEVER trained sure he could get a rage boost and probably give this far weaker cell a good hit but thats itc
No Buu arc at the least, a small mercy for Earth. Nowhere near enough energy for Buu to wake up before Babidi eventually gets backstabbed, by Dabura or otherwise, or passes of old age. And if Gero was so focused on Cell this early, there's no guarantee he kept making androdis past Eighter. At most we'd have Androids 9 through 12, which we never see on screen. 13 through 19 probably aren't built yet, and if Cell ends up a success why would he build them? Or turn himself into A20? Especially considering this is assumingly the start of Z, right around when Raditz would have invaded, so give or take 5 years before the androids normally start showing up. Namek saga never happens, of course. And with no Saiyans much less half Saiyans, besides Gohan who's still a kid, Beerus never wakes up and there's no SSG. Super Broly and Paragus may end up found but probably murdered on sight by Frieza, to avoid any more "Super Saiyans". Gero succeeding this early also means no Super Hero, as one, Gohan never meets and marries Videl and makes Pan, two, Piccolo doesn't have a good side, and three, there'd be no reason to make Cell Max. Hedo might make the Gammas alone, and they'd be full superheroes without evil motives they were never aware of. ToP probably never happens, or U7 is just erased outright. No Goku Black arc of course, Trunks isnt fucking up time and Goku isn't surpassing gods to piss off Zamasu. And if anything Zamasu would snatch Piccolo's body in this timeline. U6vU7 never happens either for obvious reasons. Neither does RoF, Frieza has no idea Goku exists and has no reason to come to Earth. And by the time he would, the Dragon Balls would be useless because Piccolo would fuse with Kami, and no Dende means no new Dragon Balls. Moro arc continues in the background and probably is stopped by Merus alone. Granola arc never happens because he gets too fucking nerfed. He'd barely match Frieza's final form, not even 100%. I don't know if this timeline is more or less peaceful than normal, Jesus.
This is a great what if idea, it just works so well in the dragon ball world, this is basically "what if dragon ball continued and z didn't happen." type deal. while yes it still features freeza blowing up planet vegeta and stuff, i love the idea that Goku and Piccolo are brought to focus, Goku will die most likely to the virus in his heart, while Piccolo will end up killing Cell and pretty much ruling the world. In a sense, I feel like Gohan vs Piccolo of this timeline would be so freaking cool. We get the "Future Gohan" look vs Piccolo, a battle that in all the other timelines would never know.
Since Raditz never came to Earth, this version of Cell lacks Frieza's transformation abilities, meaning he can't transform into his Semi-Perfect and Perfect Form. Therefore, he only has 1 form. Second, because Vegeta and Bulma never met because Raditz never came to Earth, I suggest this version of Trunks will be the son of Bulma and Yamcha and he is similar to his Dragon Ball Multiverse counterpart.
I like that you made Cell look different since Gero doesn’t have access to Frieza, Cold or Vegeta’s dna’s. I feel like even official non canon media of Dragon Ball would have made this version of Cell look exactly like canon First Form Cell
I like this Cell design. Judging by the story, it seems like this is taking place roughly around the Android saga. I would have thought Kami would suggest the time chamber before merging though.
@@Powerpoll21 the cell that showed up in the cell saga was from the future, the real cell was supposed to come out around the buu saga -- so hes still early if he came out in his own timeline around the androids
If it's this early to the point of Gohan not even existing, or being a child kept home by Chi-Chi, there's a non-zero chance this happening right around when Raditz would have invaded normally. Remember, the death of Raditz *and* Piccolo training Gohan is what turned Piccolo into a permanent ally. Remove Raditz and Piccolo never sees a reason to kidnap Gohan to train him. Instead developing tunnel vision to kill Goku, as seen here. I don't know *why* the heart virus is accelerated this early, but Goku was likely training just as much as Piccolo at this time, and pushed his body to mortal limits without any help, or boosters like Kaioken, so maybe that made the heart virus come so early. His body isn't as strong as it was after a healing pod on Namek and getting exponentially stronger through the Saiyan and Namek arcs. And the HTC wouldn't be an option, it requires two inside for maximum efficiency, and Goku was in no state to join Piccolo inside. Kami isn't a fighter either. Goku no matter what was just hosed in this scenario, because no cure, and no healing at the time would help. Senzu beans didn't cure him, and I doubt Kami's healing would do more than delay the inevitable.
Man it sucks to think that Goku is just destined to die without the intervention of Trunks and Bulma, Goku is basically doomed here. Really cool scenario! Love that it's tied to the previous what-else.
@@FearfulDivine Definitely worth wondering. We do have a few points of references, like Frieza, but I can't help but question where the likes of God Baby or Merged Zamasu would place among the other powerhouses of What-If videos.
First of all, I love this version of Cell between Goku and Piccolo's DNA, assuming Hyourinjustu didn't add anyone else's DNA due to the numerous interpretations of who Cell is made of in the canon story. As for your tier list (excellent job on this list), I agree with a vast majority of this list with a few thoughts of improvement. 1. The first being WE10 Merus (Mortal restriction) [#3] being stronger than Baby Metal Cooler (Broly absorbed + SSJ Goku + SSJ Vegeta + Buu (unknowingly) + Rildo + more if Baby Metal Cooler did absorbed the stated ~80% universe being absorbed/destroyed) [#4] - I think they should be switched as Merus needed to break the Angel Code for his speed and true power to finish him off. 2. I think WE15 Piccolo Jr. would be stronger than WE13 Raditz due to the mass time jump as Piccolo Jr. vs Goku is five year later than usual. Raditz, being a year before his canonical arrival on Earth, should potentially be slightly weaker as I don't belive the Saiyans would remain static in terms of power levels. This is harder to scale but if Piccolo trained religious for over five years, I think this should swap their placement.
@@cross_rdiance7968 Both of these are fair. Generally I placed Cooler and Baby weaker than their opponents, because they used their numbers advantage a lot and usually needed tricks to prevail, and Merus was able to hold his own against the army. The full Big Gete Star might have been stronger than him though, I could add it to my next list since it was ultimately the "opponent" that Merus killed. As for Raditz, yeah I could see Piccolo and Goku having gotten around to his level (with the caveat of illness making Goku weaker), especially the one a year before. I hadn't taken the bonus five years into account, that will be swapped around next time.
I always speculated that goku got the heart virus via the overuse of the kaioken, especially when king kai was freaking out over kaioken x4 and goku eventually using x20 on namek. Furthermore, i always had a what if in mind where goku learns ui to a very small extent from roshi's, popos and korins teachings and uses the power pole more often if he never went to king kais planet to learn the kaioken forcing him to be more technical like an earthling, hopefully you can implement this sometime
Having the SSJ3 Saiyan Saga Trio story be the lead-in for a DBZ without Raditz is genius. I do think Piccolo would’ve hesitated to kill Goku if he was suffering from the heart virus. Piccolo did want to get revenge, but I feel like he’d want to *beat* him, not win via alternative intervention.
Man I did not expect a continuation from last time, but essentially skipping the Saiyan Saga is one hell of an interesting concept! I'm fairly sure Piccolo should beat this version of Cell here, but it'd be really cool to also see Gohan take on this version of Cell when most of his power is all on rage boosts, or even seeing Great Ape Gohan face Cell (and tease that coming Great Ape Beast Gohan vs Perfect Cell Max while we're at it lol). Goku is kinda screwed though on the outset. Piccolo and Kami fused before the Dragon Balls could be used to wish away Goku's heart virus and there really isn't any other cure than *maybe* the Lookout's sacred water like someone else pointed out, but that's more for mind control than natural illnesses. Maybe this leads into this timeline's Buu Saga where Goku is in Otherworld for even longer and is the one to face Dabura. Or heck have Babidi Majin-ize Frieza instead, believing he wouldn't need to go through the lengths of traveling to the Demon Realm for a puny world like Earth. Possibilities are endless!
Oh yeah, Raditz never made it to Earth so neither Kamiccolo nor Cell possess the realization of the great ape transformation at the full moon. And I'm guessing there would be a little twist where either of them find out the weakness and take out the tail as they're exhausted, and thus Gohan or someone else could deliver the final blow.
2:00 nice idea to continue this with a weaker cell due to no other saiyans nor frieza. I do wonder if Cell got anything from Raditz, Nappa or the saibamen besides maybe exploding.
@@HansWalter-z6c thanks all and yeah I assume the heart virus was faster due to a weaker goku, give. He didn’t train for androids in Future Trunks’ timeline (and no king Kai/gravity training) to delay it for years. I also do not think Gohan begins to have his potential unleashed (before Guru) from even Raditz kidnapping him and endangering Goku, let alone the training for Vegeta and Nappa.
Id like to take this time to point out that the future Timeline had 2 people who could use solar flare and neither one of them attempted to use it.... Good stuff I thought they were done for..
This being a continuation of the last What Else is a surprise, neat way of tying things together. Might turn out poorly if Goku had to go to Namek, since Frieza would have experience against even greater heights of Super Saiyan... Early Cell is an interesting concept and look, time to see if a weaker Kamicollo is enough, a number of these What Else stories have rough conclusions...
So if the heart virus kills Goku (most likely).There's no heart medication around the time Goku contracts it.Piccolo will be the strongest on earth. Krillin Tien and Yamcha definitely won't stand a chance. There's no telling if Goku trained Gohan either, and if he did, it won't be enough. Raditz was supposed to show up at Age 761 since Goku ended up catching the heart virus around Age 766. Gohan is possibly 9-10 years old around this time. Cell attacked. Would love to see a what else of the future timeline.
This timeline is honestly mutch more unforgiving with the dragon balls gone (for the time being) aswell. Definitely feels way more sinister, I like it.
I'm loving this new design for the new cell in this what if and it's going to a lot difficult because Goku doesn't even have instant transmission or the kaioken
I wonder if Mr. Popo and Korrin is gonna try and help see Goku through his heart virus. He is still alive for now. And now we get a Nameless Namekian straight from Dragon Ball. This is exciting!
Unfortunately Goku is going to die, the senzu beans don't work on that virus and now that Piccolo is merged with Kami the dragon balls are gone for good so they can't even try to summon Sheron and ask it to cure Goku from the virus.
I mean, Nameless Namekian is a dragon clan Namaekia, so he could just defeat Cell and make a new set, i think it's very likely for that set to be of black star DBs, because of the lingering evil inside of him. That's assuming there isn't already a set of those, hidden somewhere on the lookout, considering that they were the first set Namelss Namekian made befor splitting into Kami and DKP (If i remember correctly Hyourinjutsu considers statements made in extended media like GT canon, so i think in theory black star DBs could be a thing. This could lead to a space voyage to gather them and a possible encounter with Frieza in space.)
@@rafaelferreira7408I’m gonna towards notice they both desperately try to pool whatever resources, knowledge, anything in their longevity to see if it can help whatever it is Goku has. Senzu ofc won’t so maybe something else can(hypothetically depending on what route he goes with it).
At least without Raditz, Goku, Chi-Chi and Gohan enjoyed a nice 11 years of peace, before Gohan would tragically lose his father to a heart virus. Do you think Goku ever invited Piccolo to family dinner after a failed assasination?
I'm surprised Dr. Gero didn't use more of Goku's DNA for Cell - he did beat Piccolo. But, regardless, Cell gets SMACKED really hard with Piccolo one again. It would be really fun to see what this version of perfect cell looks like - and if this Cell is obedient to Dr. Gero still.
Cell is cooked. Piccolo, fused with Kami, is stronger than base Cell from the original series, which in fact was stronger than a Super Saiyan while being stronger than or on par with Androids 18 and 17.
remember that in the original series, Piccolo prior to fusing with Kami was already on the par of strength of a Super Saiyan as he was able to take on Gero in this version without that same amount of power, not to mention a lack of Nail, means Piccolo isn't nearly as strong as his original counterpart
certainly SSJ3 Vegeta, this Cell doesn't even have the DNA of the Saiyans, Frieza or even Gohan, I doubt he would be able to match up to BASE Vegeta much less SSJ3
This Cell probably doesn't even get past Vegeta's base form to be honest. His creation was rushed and only had access to cells from fighters below Raditz' level. He's probably like, middling Saiyan saga-tier.
@@leirbag1595nail though that piccolo after king Kai with kami would have obliterated Frieza soooooooo yeah I think nappa would get cooked With how strong he got from just nail yeah I can see easily tell that would happen
Should things go south, gohan will be around. If the z fighters gather, with Popo's guidance, they can train in the room of spirit and time. By training gohan, he'll surely be ready for cell, who's probably not even on frieza's level
Its particular Goku still got sick when its assumed he got it from his post Freiza space journeys. It is interesting that in this timeline! Gero skips straight to Cell
Where is all of the Z-Fighters here? I mean sure, they're all doing their own thing, but they should've sensed Goku weakening rapidly early in the fight OR the emergence of Cell OR Kamiccolo. But yeah, would love to see this fight continued.
The fused Piccolo being the only hope against cell is quite the cliffhanger, and goku yet to die could still do /something/ Though if I were them, I would have killed goku before the virus could, unless theres something on the lookout in the sacred water to give him more time, least gohans still fine
The fact that in this version of “What-else?” Piccolo does not fuse or meet with Nail. It makes it difficult for me to believe that he might have a chance against this version of Cell. Edit: But I also believe either outcome can play out given the circumstances
@@Grundrissein the main series of Z where all the events that we know of played out, Piccolo fused with a Namekian named Nail, who was on the brink of death after getting beaten up by Frieza’s henchmen (or Frieza himself as I don’t remember who landed the fatal blow). It was due to this that Piccolo was strong enough to go toe to toe with Frieza’s first and second form. I’m unsure of whether or not he had at fighting chance against his third form but definitely not his final and common form we know of today. Afterwards, it was during the Androids/Cell Saga that Piccolo fused with another namekian (this time it’s Kami) in order to have a fighting chance against the Andorids. In fact, Piccolo who absorbed 2 namekians overall was strong enough to give Android 17 (who alongside 18, bodied 2 super Saiyan warriors) a run for his money if it weren’t for Cell’s arrival (the one that we know). This what-else scenario tells portrays a reality in which Piccolo only fused with Kami, which to me thinks it’s a major downside in a vs debate but it’s evenly matched as this iteration of Cell is composed of fighters who only lived on Earth, such as Goku and Piccolo himself. So if anything, they might be evenly matched to the point where either outcome can possibly play out given the circumstances as well as context on their respective backgrounds.
@@RhythmOSauce Wait, why did you just reply to me an hour ago when you were presumably active 12 hours ago? Please tell me if the notification of my comment reads 12 hours ago. I don't want to experience the delay phenomena where my replies appear late into other boxes by half a day.
There’s something I always thought about… specifically if how the Mafuba works. I’m just going to say it since it has been on my mind, but couldn’t they use the Mafuba on Goku to prevent him from dying? I mean it would be a way to just stop it while they actually look for a cure since Goku would technically be sealed. Idk lol
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I love that Cell looks less freaky since he doesn't have Frieza or Cold DNA, that and no Vegeta DNA as well.
Less freaky he looks way gross than imperfect cell I was like bleh when I saw that design
Vegeta DNA was holding him back lol
Less freaky? He looks like an abomination, at least imperfect cell looker cooler.
@@FrenzyFanboynah
Nah wdym less freaky he looks way worse than the og imperfect cell
continuing from What else #14, who told the Three Stooges to make a wish for Torombo.
I’m saying tho they literally fumbled with the wish
@DestroyerRants possibly Marijuana, more specifically silver marijuana.
They weren’t thinking in the long run at all🤦🏿♂️
That's really creative, and different way of thinking how would Cell turn out to be.
I love the more bird-like design matching up with Piano and Cymbal. That's awesome!
“Piccolo, I do t trust you. Actually I trust you enough not to ask Bulma to gather the dragon balls and cure this bozo of whatever is afflicting him.”
Feels a lot more personal of a threat when he’s only made of those two’s DNA. A little unfortunate Gero didn’t wanna consider Goku’s friends as good material for his creation, but that’s a side effect of him only focusing on the world’s two strongest.
That's because they are just humans. Aside from tien. Human DNA alone doesn't make a strong warrior. But Sajyan DNA that gets stronger after hard battles and Namekian DNA that can regenerate and is long living is a different story.
@@christianv.8448 Gero never learnt about Saiyans or Namekians, so the argument about biology is null. All he knows is that Goku is possibly not human and Piccolo is definitely not human. He could still pick at least Roshi's DNA..
@@DamianQualshy He knew goku has a tail and is the only "human" that has one. Dr. Gero is genius he figured it he is not a normal human and he saw that piccolo could regenerate at the last tournement fight. Cell is a bio android. Biology is key for creating it.
@christianv.8448 I meant that he doesn't know their actual potential, especially Goku's because there never was a Raditz, Vegeta or Nappa to explain that Saiyans are "the ultimate warrior race" not to mention Zenkais.
@@christianv.8448If i remember correctly, Gero only learned about the saiyans after Namek saga, beforewards he probably assumed Goku was an alien hybrid or a mutant. Which would explain why he was interested in Goku's power in the first place.
Cell got that penguin build
Pudgy Penguin
Can’t spell Colin Farrell without Cell 😏
Meanwhile Goku near dead at the look out:
-Wait, should we have used the dragon balls real quick to cure me before they fused? "faints".
The only real hope in this Sincero is that the sacred water in kami's lookout cures Goku or at least keeps the heart virus at bay somehow
The sacred water did remove the baby parasites in GT and removed the evilness that garlic jr used to infect piccolo with
But I doubt it would do anything but there's a chance
If all else fails they might have to hope Piccolo (Fused with Kami) would be willing to help and allow the use of his Namekian spaceship to visit Planet Namek. Although that scenario in itself might also have it’s own issues, seeing that even if they do so the Z Fighters might have to deal with the Frieza Force (in case Frieza possibly gets interested or learns of the Namekian dragon balls somehow), along with possibly Frieza himself.
@@averageguy3661 that is also true
And piccolo should be able to defeat this new cell
The only problem is that after that Goku will most likely die and wouldn't be able to be resurrected by the dragon balls
@ exactly what I was thinking.
@@averageguy3661They don't know where Namek is, in the official story they were only able to go to Namek because King Kai told them where the planet was and how to find it. But in this timeline, Goku never met King Kai.
You know for the little amount of screen time Raditz had he really was important for events to take place
Thank you for the amazing What-Else as always 🙏
Gero should have revived him as an Android. He saw the battle yet you tell me he left a perfectly good specimen to rot?
An interesting idea for a what if scenario.
Fr, shout out to fan projects that complement the original
Gotta be one of my favorite genders
Oh we need a continuation on this, it'd be really cool seeing a new design of Perfect Cell
Another awesome idea! It wouldn’t change the outcome really, but I can’t help but think that Piccolo would have realized something was up with Goku in this scenario. Sure he can be ruthless, but he trained for years for their rematch-I think he’d want a truer victory over Goku, maybe even returning the favor of sparing him until he can give a real fight.
Yeah I was expecting Piccolo to spare Goku after realizing he was fighting a cripple.
Yeah I agree he's the same as vegeta he doesn't want a fight with someone who's weakened
Lmao Vegeta was a regular evil guy at this point in Z
Problem is in canon he only realizes this after killing Goku and Raditz
@Fishman465 well now that he's fused with kami, he will either try to help or kill him which will actually help goku get revived by the dragon balls
Piccolo has insane growth potential, if he just trains a little bit before rushing head on into Cell then he could win
This cell is still massively weaker he has no data on Freezer and his dad and literally ONLY goku for saiyan DNA. And unlike the original when the beings who made him were way above the millions in power or around 18.000. This cells strongest part is goku from the 23rd tournament who had a powerlevel of less than 400 sure piccolo is far weaker but he should easily destroy cell
Everything looks very difficult for Earth:
-Goku did not know King Kai, so he does not know the Kaioken and Spirit Bomb techniques.
-If Piccolo and Kami merge then the Dragon Balls will cease to exist.
-Goku has heart disease and the Senzu Beans cannot cure him.
-They couldn't travel to Namek because they don't know where it is. And Goku doesn't know the Instant Transmission technique either.
I don’t think Goku would have ever gotten the heart virus because he never went to yardrat
@@MistahMorningStarit’s a virus from earth, not yardrat that’s why reason medicine was made in the future timeline because many people on earth were getting infected and dying
@@MistahMorningStar It's never said WHAT caused the heart virus. Most attribute it to Goku's lifestyle as a kid being a wild child living in the mountains alone after Grandpa Gohan died.
@@muigokublack6487 Wasn't it due to his overuse of Kaioken on Namek?
@@mlekomoleko it was never confirmed that was the case. We can really only speculate what caused the heart virus in goku.
i do really like this what ifs where it has a continuation from like the previous what ifs, showing the consequences of the other character's action, taking different path than they supposed to be
Dang Cell looking a bit funky in this timeline eh 🤣
That’s Ultra Imperfect Cell
IMPERFECTER CELL!!!
-Ok Yamcha, accurate but tone it down
I'm pretty sure Piccolo's got this.
YES!!! this is what I always wanted. A story where Raditz never came to earth and holy you cooked with this one! I can’t wait for the continuation
Yay stuff to watch while waiting for the bus
Cool that it’s a continue from the ssj3 Saiyans vs frieza one
This sound extremely interesting
I wasn't sure at first What Else on how would the series end up with just dialogue and no animation, but after so many episodes which STILL brought us original designs, I'm really glad you can showcase all these different stories sitting in your head with such low effort, publishing them out that frequently.
As for this one.. I wonder if you're planning Piccolo to go to Namek and revive Goku, even if it's for his pride to "defeat him on his own terms". Then we get Freeza (Raditz spilled the beans about the Dragon Balls after all), who would definitely and effortlessly end up defeated by the Super Namek.
Piccolo or "Cell" going to be winner?
I bet in "Cell"
I find it hard to believe Piccolo fought Goku and none of his allies came to aid him.
To be fair they are all outclassed by Piccolo and i imagine Goku said something along the lines of "i want to do this on my own"
@@StarNameKev The fact that none of them were at least watching from afar or whatever doesn't seem right.
@@Grundrisse It is a little weird, but no one jumped in or were watching from afar during the Raditz fight either.
Instead of everyone being gathered at Kame House, Piccolo could've challenged Goku on a random day when he was at home. And since everyone's a lot weaker, they're all also a lot slower too, so maybe they couldn't make it in time.
@@Genra I thought the gang was seeing the battle from afar, but they made it too late when Goku fell down.
So vegeta became a ssj4 at 23 damn rip the prince
I think he’s 28 in the OG continuity as he’s 5 years older than Goku before the retcon.
So then if Piccolo wins against Cell, which is honestly quite plausible given how far ahead his fusion with Kami put him above a Super Saiyan in Canon, that leaves Gero being next for the Namekian to finish, and I can see Kami knowing where the doctor is, if not then Bulma, and unlike most Z Fighters at this point I can legit see Piccolo, especially after the mess with this Cell, not letting any loose ends so the doctor is dead.
However Goku is most likely pretty much dead due to there being no way to cure him at this point in time, so by default Piccolo would be the strongest warrior on Earth, who may or not actually take Gohan to train as a potential pupil-minion and future protector of Earth, depending of how Piccolo’s personality has changed post merge, as well as all the other Z Fighters training even more immensely due to Goku’s death leaving them as the last line of defense on Earth, especially if the Namekian does turn against them.
That would leave pretty much the threat of Babidi and Dabura, mainly if Piccolo and/or Gohan are strong enough by that point in time to take Dabura down before Buu is revived, which could be plausible if we go by What IF#20.
GOOD LUCK!
I think this piccolo will still be weaker then the canon fusion but honestly not by far. And hes likely still stronger then 100% friezia at this point and time. The reason I think he is weaker is likely because piccolo here was no where near as powerful as he was later. But the fusion for the nameless namek is insane in power growth compared to the other fusions.
Interesting. I never thought about it in this way.
Raditz not coming to earth means no space activities. No need for namek. No warning from the androids since vegeta isnt here so trunks it gone.. and gohan most likely dies fighting the androids if they do appear.
Future bulma probably could time travel back herself
Or gohan could not throw his life away knowing there is no one left
Tho this gohan was never taken by piccolo so he literally NEVER trained sure he could get a rage boost and probably give this far weaker cell a good hit but thats itc
No Buu arc at the least, a small mercy for Earth. Nowhere near enough energy for Buu to wake up before Babidi eventually gets backstabbed, by Dabura or otherwise, or passes of old age.
And if Gero was so focused on Cell this early, there's no guarantee he kept making androdis past Eighter. At most we'd have Androids 9 through 12, which we never see on screen. 13 through 19 probably aren't built yet, and if Cell ends up a success why would he build them? Or turn himself into A20? Especially considering this is assumingly the start of Z, right around when Raditz would have invaded, so give or take 5 years before the androids normally start showing up.
Namek saga never happens, of course. And with no Saiyans much less half Saiyans, besides Gohan who's still a kid, Beerus never wakes up and there's no SSG. Super Broly and Paragus may end up found but probably murdered on sight by Frieza, to avoid any more "Super Saiyans".
Gero succeeding this early also means no Super Hero, as one, Gohan never meets and marries Videl and makes Pan, two, Piccolo doesn't have a good side, and three, there'd be no reason to make Cell Max. Hedo might make the Gammas alone, and they'd be full superheroes without evil motives they were never aware of.
ToP probably never happens, or U7 is just erased outright. No Goku Black arc of course, Trunks isnt fucking up time and Goku isn't surpassing gods to piss off Zamasu. And if anything Zamasu would snatch Piccolo's body in this timeline.
U6vU7 never happens either for obvious reasons. Neither does RoF, Frieza has no idea Goku exists and has no reason to come to Earth. And by the time he would, the Dragon Balls would be useless because Piccolo would fuse with Kami, and no Dende means no new Dragon Balls.
Moro arc continues in the background and probably is stopped by Merus alone. Granola arc never happens because he gets too fucking nerfed. He'd barely match Frieza's final form, not even 100%.
I don't know if this timeline is more or less peaceful than normal, Jesus.
This is a great what if idea, it just works so well in the dragon ball world, this is basically "what if dragon ball continued and z didn't happen." type deal. while yes it still features freeza blowing up planet vegeta and stuff, i love the idea that Goku and Piccolo are brought to focus, Goku will die most likely to the virus in his heart, while Piccolo will end up killing Cell and pretty much ruling the world. In a sense, I feel like Gohan vs Piccolo of this timeline would be so freaking cool. We get the "Future Gohan" look vs Piccolo, a battle that in all the other timelines would never know.
Gohan: Perhaps in a other time. We could of been brothers. "will hit so much harder"
I'm interested in seeing the full body design for this cell that never had DNA of Frieza, Cold or Vegeta
His bird beak like red hot chili peppers!!!
Cell is my favourite character,also cool what if scenario!
This timeline is so interesting. I wish Sparking Zero spent more time in development to include what if's like these.
Since Raditz never came to Earth, this version of Cell lacks Frieza's transformation abilities, meaning he can't transform into his Semi-Perfect and Perfect Form. Therefore, he only has 1 form.
Second, because Vegeta and Bulma never met because Raditz never came to Earth, I suggest this version of Trunks will be the son of Bulma and Yamcha and he is similar to his Dragon Ball Multiverse counterpart.
So in this scenario, 1st form Cell lacks not only the people he absorbed before the piccolo fight, but also DNA of Frieza, cold, Vegeta and Gogan
Cell never had Gohan's DNA.
@@YoukalottaseeyaIf there was Cell it would be an abyss of power, since Gohan's hidden power is gigantic.
Dude I love all of these videos u make of what it's with the sprite animations 🔥🔥
I like that you made Cell look different since Gero doesn’t have access to Frieza, Cold or Vegeta’s dna’s. I feel like even official non canon media of Dragon Ball would have made this version of Cell look exactly like canon First Form Cell
I love this "what else", but i also really like the teory that his heart disease comes by force himself with the kaioken
Man, what an interesting concept!
I like this Cell design. Judging by the story, it seems like this is taking place roughly around the Android saga. I would have thought Kami would suggest the time chamber before merging though.
I personally think it takes place where the Frieza Saga should be since Cell showed up so much early.
@@Powerpoll21 the cell that showed up in the cell saga was from the future, the real cell was supposed to come out around the buu saga -- so hes still early if he came out in his own timeline around the androids
If it's this early to the point of Gohan not even existing, or being a child kept home by Chi-Chi, there's a non-zero chance this happening right around when Raditz would have invaded normally.
Remember, the death of Raditz *and* Piccolo training Gohan is what turned Piccolo into a permanent ally. Remove Raditz and Piccolo never sees a reason to kidnap Gohan to train him. Instead developing tunnel vision to kill Goku, as seen here.
I don't know *why* the heart virus is accelerated this early, but Goku was likely training just as much as Piccolo at this time, and pushed his body to mortal limits without any help, or boosters like Kaioken, so maybe that made the heart virus come so early. His body isn't as strong as it was after a healing pod on Namek and getting exponentially stronger through the Saiyan and Namek arcs.
And the HTC wouldn't be an option, it requires two inside for maximum efficiency, and Goku was in no state to join Piccolo inside. Kami isn't a fighter either.
Goku no matter what was just hosed in this scenario, because no cure, and no healing at the time would help. Senzu beans didn't cure him, and I doubt Kami's healing would do more than delay the inevitable.
@@Powerpoll21it's more probably android saga because is when Goku suffer the heart virus
Cell is going to absorb Goku to stand a chance.
Assuming Cell even knows where Goku is, since Goku is likely going to die from the heart virus leaving Cell no means of sensing Goku's ki to find him.
I think he's enjoying doing these what if more than the animated one
It takes considerably less time and stress so I would hope
HYORINJUTSU
MAKE THIS CELL DIE TO A SURPRISE SHIN KIKOHO
AND MY LIFE
IS YOURS
Man it sucks to think that Goku is just destined to die without the intervention of Trunks and Bulma, Goku is basically doomed here.
Really cool scenario! Love that it's tied to the previous what-else.
I aalways wondered how Cell would have turned out without "alien" interventions. This is cool as hell.
Now, little update to the ranking I attempted in What-Else 12... What-Else #15 is going to be difficult to rank, given some unknowns, but I'll try my best.
#60) WE15 - Son Goku (Weakened)
#59) WE15 - Piccolo Jr
#58) WE13 - Raditz
#57) WE11 - Raditz (GT)
#56) WE9 - Paragus
#55) WE13 - Nappa
#54) WE11 - Nappa (GT)
#53) WE15 - Piccolo (Fused with Kami)
#52) WE15 - "Cell"
#51) WE13 - Vegeta
#50) WE3 - Goku (Tree of Might)
#49) WE3 - Turles (two fruits)
#48) WE14 - Frieza (First Form)
#47) WE13/14 - Raditz (SSJ3)
#46) WE14 - Vegeta (SSJ)
#45) WE14 - Frieza (Second Form)
#44) WE13/14 - Nappa (SSJ3)
#43) WE14 - Frieza (Third Form)
#42) WE 1 Vegeta (Namek)
#41) WE1 - Goku (Namek)
#40) WE13/14 - Vegeta (SSJ3)
#39) WE14 - Vegeta (Golden Great Ape)
#38) WE3 - Turles (three fruits)
#37) WE14 - Vegeta (SSJ4)
#36) WE1/14 - Frieza (Final Form)
#35) WE1 - Frieza (Full Power)
#34) WE3 - Turles (Three Fruits + Super Saiyan)
#33) WE7 - Goku (Super Saiyan)
#32) WE7 - Vegeta (Super Saiyan)
#31) WE7 - Metal Cooler
#30) WE7 - Metal Cooler (Super Saiyan Power)
#29) WE7 - Cell (Imperfect)
#28) WE5 - Shin
#27) WE9 - Broly (Base)
#26) WE8 - Metal Cooler/Metal Super Saiyans
#25) WE10 - Majin Buu
#24) WE11 - Vegeta (GT)
#23) WE6 - Goku (GT)
#22) WE1 - Vegito (Namek)
#21) WE1 - Ultimate Gohan
#20) WE9 - Broly (Rage)
#19) WE8 - General Rilldo
#18) WE12 - Super Buu (Gohan Absorbed)
#17) WE6 - Baby Vegeta
#16) WE4 - Android 17 (Super)
#15) WE4 - Super 17
#14) WE9 - Baby Metal Cooler (Super Saiyan Power)
#13) WE12 - Vegito (Super Saiyan)
#12) WE11 - Goku (Super Saiyan 4)
#11) WE2 - Future Trunks (Super Saiyan Rage)
#10) WE5 - Goku (Super Saiyan Blue)
#9) WE12 - Super Buu (Beast)
#8) WE6 - Baby Vegeta (Super Saiyan God)
#7) WE5 - Gokushin
#6) WE2 - Xeno Trunks (Super Saiyan God)
#5) WE9 - Baby Metal Cooler (Broly absorbed)
#4) WE10 - Baby Metal Cooler (Broly Absorbed)
#3) WE10 - Merus (Mortal)
#2)WE5 - Merged Zamasu
#1) WE10 - Merus (Angel)
I wonder how far they would all rank if they were in the powerscaling video
@@FearfulDivine Definitely worth wondering. We do have a few points of references, like Frieza, but I can't help but question where the likes of God Baby or Merged Zamasu would place among the other powerhouses of What-If videos.
First of all, I love this version of Cell between Goku and Piccolo's DNA, assuming Hyourinjustu didn't add anyone else's DNA due to the numerous interpretations of who Cell is made of in the canon story.
As for your tier list (excellent job on this list), I agree with a vast majority of this list with a few thoughts of improvement.
1. The first being WE10 Merus (Mortal restriction) [#3] being stronger than Baby Metal Cooler (Broly absorbed + SSJ Goku + SSJ Vegeta + Buu (unknowingly) + Rildo + more if Baby Metal Cooler did absorbed the stated ~80% universe being absorbed/destroyed) [#4] - I think they should be switched as Merus needed to break the Angel Code for his speed and true power to finish him off.
2. I think WE15 Piccolo Jr. would be stronger than WE13 Raditz due to the mass time jump as Piccolo Jr. vs Goku is five year later than usual. Raditz, being a year before his canonical arrival on Earth, should potentially be slightly weaker as I don't belive the Saiyans would remain static in terms of power levels. This is harder to scale but if Piccolo trained religious for over five years, I think this should swap their placement.
@@cross_rdiance7968 Both of these are fair. Generally I placed Cooler and Baby weaker than their opponents, because they used their numbers advantage a lot and usually needed tricks to prevail, and Merus was able to hold his own against the army. The full Big Gete Star might have been stronger than him though, I could add it to my next list since it was ultimately the "opponent" that Merus killed.
As for Raditz, yeah I could see Piccolo and Goku having gotten around to his level (with the caveat of illness making Goku weaker), especially the one a year before. I hadn't taken the bonus five years into account, that will be swapped around next time.
Looks like a solid list. 🙂
creative ass what ifs 😭🙏🏽
I always speculated that goku got the heart virus via the overuse of the kaioken, especially when king kai was freaking out over kaioken x4 and goku eventually using x20 on namek.
Furthermore, i always had a what if in mind where goku learns ui to a very small extent from roshi's, popos and korins teachings and uses the power pole more often if he never went to king kais planet to learn the kaioken forcing him to be more technical like an earthling, hopefully you can implement this sometime
Having the SSJ3 Saiyan Saga Trio story be the lead-in for a DBZ without Raditz is genius.
I do think Piccolo would’ve hesitated to kill Goku if he was suffering from the heart virus. Piccolo did want to get revenge, but I feel like he’d want to *beat* him, not win via alternative intervention.
Man I did not expect a continuation from last time, but essentially skipping the Saiyan Saga is one hell of an interesting concept! I'm fairly sure Piccolo should beat this version of Cell here, but it'd be really cool to also see Gohan take on this version of Cell when most of his power is all on rage boosts, or even seeing Great Ape Gohan face Cell (and tease that coming Great Ape Beast Gohan vs Perfect Cell Max while we're at it lol).
Goku is kinda screwed though on the outset. Piccolo and Kami fused before the Dragon Balls could be used to wish away Goku's heart virus and there really isn't any other cure than *maybe* the Lookout's sacred water like someone else pointed out, but that's more for mind control than natural illnesses. Maybe this leads into this timeline's Buu Saga where Goku is in Otherworld for even longer and is the one to face Dabura. Or heck have Babidi Majin-ize Frieza instead, believing he wouldn't need to go through the lengths of traveling to the Demon Realm for a puny world like Earth. Possibilities are endless!
Oh yeah, Raditz never made it to Earth so neither Kamiccolo nor Cell possess the realization of the great ape transformation at the full moon. And I'm guessing there would be a little twist where either of them find out the weakness and take out the tail as they're exhausted, and thus Gohan or someone else could deliver the final blow.
2:00 nice idea to continue this with a weaker cell due to no other saiyans nor frieza. I do wonder if Cell got anything from Raditz, Nappa or the saibamen besides maybe exploding.
Why they were never there?
@@HansWalter-z6c this takes place in the same timeline as What-Elses 13 and 14
The Saiyans never came, the last What-Else chronologically to this had them all perish against Frieza.
@@HansWalter-z6cbecause they already had enough Saiyan DNA,of Goku & Vegeta
@@HansWalter-z6c thanks all and yeah I assume the heart virus was faster due to a weaker goku, give. He didn’t train for androids in Future Trunks’ timeline (and no king Kai/gravity training) to delay it for years. I also do not think Gohan begins to have his potential unleashed (before Guru) from even Raditz kidnapping him and endangering Goku, let alone the training for Vegeta and Nappa.
Id like to take this time to point out that the future Timeline had 2 people who could use solar flare and neither one of them attempted to use it.... Good stuff I thought they were done for..
What else: movies were canon. Basically a retelling of how Dragon Ball Z could be utilizing the GT idea.
Cell more like Dell
Dura Cell battery
Wild that Goku just dies in this version LMAO
It makes sense since Vegeta never came to Earth to have Trunks with Bulma. This story follows the main timeline where Goku just dies from his illness
@Powerpoll21 never said it didn't make sense, friend
This being a continuation of the last What Else is a surprise, neat way of tying things together. Might turn out poorly if Goku had to go to Namek, since Frieza would have experience against even greater heights of Super Saiyan...
Early Cell is an interesting concept and look, time to see if a weaker Kamicollo is enough, a number of these What Else stories have rough conclusions...
1:34 WHY DID I THINK THAT WAS ZORO LMAO
Guess without all of the other saiyans, would resemble piccolo a lot more. Only him and Goku
these what-ifs make a great list of mod characters for sparking zero - ssj3 nappa, ssj3 scouter vegeta, namek vegito and "cellgolo"
thought we’d see a Gohan rage boost to goku almost dying but he’s not even near there or even able to sense the fights probably
So if the heart virus kills Goku (most likely).There's no heart medication around the time Goku contracts it.Piccolo will be the strongest on earth. Krillin Tien and Yamcha definitely won't stand a chance. There's no telling if Goku trained Gohan either, and if he did, it won't be enough. Raditz was supposed to show up at Age 761 since Goku ended up catching the heart virus around Age 766. Gohan is possibly 9-10 years old around this time. Cell attacked. Would love to see a what else of the future timeline.
This timeline is honestly mutch more unforgiving with the dragon balls gone (for the time being) aswell. Definitely feels way more sinister, I like it.
Finally the goat uploaded 🙏
This version of Cell is practically a Saiyan-Namekian hybrid.
Shouldn't this cell be more chill considering 99% of the evil tendencies he got came from frieza and cold? Anyway, this cell is getting clapped.
well it ended kinda like the original story, first form vs kami absorbed very cool
I'm loving this new design for the new cell in this what if and it's going to a lot difficult because Goku doesn't even have instant transmission or the kaioken
Goku's gonna get absorbed isn't he?
Cell's DNA will probably be created from the world's greatest fighters.
I wonder if Mr. Popo and Korrin is gonna try and help see Goku through his heart virus. He is still alive for now.
And now we get a Nameless Namekian straight from Dragon Ball. This is exciting!
Unfortunately Goku is going to die, the senzu beans don't work on that virus and now that Piccolo is merged with Kami the dragon balls are gone for good so they can't even try to summon Sheron and ask it to cure Goku from the virus.
I mean, Nameless Namekian is a dragon clan Namaekia, so he could just defeat Cell and make a new set, i think it's very likely for that set to be of black star DBs, because of the lingering evil inside of him. That's assuming there isn't already a set of those, hidden somewhere on the lookout, considering that they were the first set Namelss Namekian made befor splitting into Kami and DKP (If i remember correctly Hyourinjutsu considers statements made in extended media like GT canon, so i think in theory black star DBs could be a thing. This could lead to a space voyage to gather them and a possible encounter with Frieza in space.)
@@rafaelferreira7408I’m gonna towards notice they both desperately try to pool whatever resources, knowledge, anything in their longevity to see if it can help whatever it is Goku has. Senzu ofc won’t so maybe something else can(hypothetically depending on what route he goes with it).
At least without Raditz, Goku, Chi-Chi and Gohan enjoyed a nice 11 years of peace, before Gohan would tragically lose his father to a heart virus.
Do you think Goku ever invited Piccolo to family dinner after a failed assasination?
so this is after Vegeta and others got baked, well Cell certainly looks different.
Meanwhile, Goku dies of a heart attack.
"Another heart attack, what the hell is going on!?"
Metal Gear Reference?
Goku dying is a good thing since Cell won’t be able to absorb him to transform
Yeah, Cell is cooked; honestly wouldn't be surprising if Piccolo ended up as strong as 1st Form Frieza with how crazy the fusion buff is.
Cool concept although it be cool to see the rest of the z fighters shine
I'm curious, did you desgin the new "Cell" on your own? Or is this somewhere on the internet similar to Namek Vegito?
The real question i have since this is pre sayian saga or that time is...
Whats their power level :P.
This is amazing
Maybe Piccolo will convince cell to do a namekian fusion with him
I bet this cell also has the DNA of the human fighters no? Because if it only had goku and piccolo this would be technically their son XD
I'm surprised Dr. Gero didn't use more of Goku's DNA for Cell - he did beat Piccolo. But, regardless, Cell gets SMACKED really hard with Piccolo one again. It would be really fun to see what this version of perfect cell looks like - and if this Cell is obedient to Dr. Gero still.
Cell is cooked. Piccolo, fused with Kami, is stronger than base Cell from the original series, which in fact was stronger than a Super Saiyan while being stronger than or on par with Androids 18 and 17.
remember that in the original series, Piccolo prior to fusing with Kami was already on the par of strength of a Super Saiyan as he was able to take on Gero
in this version without that same amount of power, not to mention a lack of Nail, means Piccolo isn't nearly as strong as his original counterpart
No nail, no king kai training. Piccolo got like 300x stronger during the namek arc, so he's gonna be significantly weaker here.
Yeah basically at or almost at nemek saga Goku super Saiyan level
Cell still has gohan's insane potential but I doubt it would be relevant since he didn't train before confronting Goku Aand Piccolo.
@@vincep8874 does he? why would the bots ever take gohans cells, raditz never appeared, there was no vegeta/nappa fight either
the goat uploaded
Who Would Win Imperfect Cell(WE15) Vs Super Saiyan Three Vegeta (Scouter)
certainly SSJ3 Vegeta,
this Cell doesn't even have the DNA of the Saiyans, Frieza or even Gohan, I doubt he would be able to match up to BASE Vegeta much less SSJ3
This Cell probably doesn't even get past Vegeta's base form to be honest. His creation was rushed and only had access to cells from fighters below Raditz' level. He's probably like, middling Saiyan saga-tier.
@@leirbag1595 Wait Who Wins Piccolo Jr (Fused Kami) Vs Nappa
@@hyrangaming3462 I would personally say Piccolo. Namekian fusion is still a pretty potent boost.
@@leirbag1595nail though that piccolo after king Kai with kami would have obliterated Frieza soooooooo yeah I think nappa would get cooked
With how strong he got from just nail yeah I can see easily tell that would happen
LOVE YOUR CONTENT
Amazing!!
Should things go south, gohan will be around. If the z fighters gather, with Popo's guidance, they can train in the room of spirit and time. By training gohan, he'll surely be ready for cell, who's probably not even on frieza's level
Its particular Goku still got sick when its assumed he got it from his post Freiza space journeys.
It is interesting that in this timeline! Gero skips straight to Cell
Everything was great as always, I just though this version of Cell's mouth looked a bit weird.
Someone make a series out of this *pronto*
Where is all of the Z-Fighters here? I mean sure, they're all doing their own thing, but they should've sensed Goku weakening rapidly early in the fight OR the emergence of Cell OR Kamiccolo. But yeah, would love to see this fight continued.
I welcome new concepts
The fused Piccolo being the only hope against cell is quite the cliffhanger, and goku yet to die could still do /something/ Though if I were them, I would have killed goku before the virus could, unless theres something on the lookout in the sacred water to give him more time, least gohans still fine
The fact that in this version of “What-else?” Piccolo does not fuse or meet with Nail. It makes it difficult for me to believe that he might have a chance against this version of Cell.
Edit: But I also believe either outcome can play out given the circumstances
Could you make a better elaboration? Because this Cell's best fighting data available is from Goku's battle against Piccolo in the 23rd WMAT.
@@Grundrissein the main series of Z where all the events that we know of played out, Piccolo fused with a Namekian named Nail, who was on the brink of death after getting beaten up by Frieza’s henchmen (or Frieza himself as I don’t remember who landed the fatal blow). It was due to this that Piccolo was strong enough to go toe to toe with Frieza’s first and second form. I’m unsure of whether or not he had at fighting chance against his third form but definitely not his final and common form we know of today. Afterwards, it was during the Androids/Cell Saga that Piccolo fused with another namekian (this time it’s Kami) in order to have a fighting chance against the Andorids. In fact, Piccolo who absorbed 2 namekians overall was strong enough to give Android 17 (who alongside 18, bodied 2 super Saiyan warriors) a run for his money if it weren’t for Cell’s arrival (the one that we know).
This what-else scenario tells portrays a reality in which Piccolo only fused with Kami, which to me thinks it’s a major downside in a vs debate but it’s evenly matched as this iteration of Cell is composed of fighters who only lived on Earth, such as Goku and Piccolo himself. So if anything, they might be evenly matched to the point where either outcome can possibly play out given the circumstances as well as context on their respective backgrounds.
@@RhythmOSauce Wait, why did you just reply to me an hour ago when you were presumably active 12 hours ago? Please tell me if the notification of my comment reads 12 hours ago.
I don't want to experience the delay phenomena where my replies appear late into other boxes by half a day.
What if Monaito had awakened Bardock's hidden potential?
Behold peak
I love this video
I guess there's no need for 17 and 18.
I enjoy these but it always strikes me weirdly that none of the other Z-fighters are present in this moment between Piccolo vs Goku again.
I don’t really see cell wining tbh
What if Raditz was revived as an Android by Gero?
Android Raditz vs Cell?
There’s something I always thought about… specifically if how the Mafuba works. I’m just going to say it since it has been on my mind, but couldn’t they use the Mafuba on Goku to prevent him from dying? I mean it would be a way to just stop it while they actually look for a cure since Goku would technically be sealed. Idk lol
4:00 minor typo. along, you with it.
Lets hope cell doesnt get the drop on piccolo like in the canon timeline