What is this SORCERY? [DESIGN REVIEW] � �#1
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- Опубліковано 15 жов 2024
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Zigzag height regulator
Inspiration: -Similar: @anselm - / discord
Curved marble path
YT:Presentation - • Curved marble track test Test - • Curved marble catcher ... Discord post:Presenation - / discord - / discord Rauncher - / discord - / discord @Andrey Shur - / discord
Adjustable height modules
YT: • Adjustable hight modul... Discord post: / discord (this was one my first posts to discord after which many showed my already similar designs, so independent design but see below) Similar:@Shaise - / discord - / discord - / discord - / discord - / discord Shur - / discord Adrien - / discord
Divide by 2
YT: • Divide by 2 MMX prototype Discord post: / discord Inspiration: Flipflop (divide by 2) designs, see similarSimilar:@alastor and @jb4x - / discord And • Marble Machine Track S...
Newton’s cradle
YT: • Newtons cradle Marble ... Discord post: / discord ) Inspiration/original idea: @Gonzonator1982 - / discord Similar:
Fishstair catcher (not optimal, more like a brainfart, see Similar for more inspiration)
YT: • Fishstair springsteel ... Discord post: / discord Inspiration:@Gonzonator1982 - / discord @ a lot, there is a ton of discussion about how to keep the second marble back (see Similar)Similar:@TheMoen - / discord @Locket Rauncher - a lot (again, sorry)
Zigzag pressure relief
YT: • Pressure relief system... Discord post: / discord Inspiration: @Rossero - / discord Similar: -
Divide by 4
YT: • A better divide by 4 f... Discord post: / discord @JesseRoelfs - / discord Similar: -
Worthwhile addition (for you): Over rotation explanation and calculations summaryDiscord post: / discord Composed by: @Arnoud Chol - @TUTAMKHAMON - @Rossero
Marble Machine X Daily #22
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"I will fight for my current marble divider"? That's sunken cost right here. Please Martin, consider changing your marble divider with this wonderfully designed one
Yea, his current system is wack. The amount of time and resources he's going to have to continue putting into it is probably more than it would take to implement this new design, considering it obsoletes the height modules entirely.
Well, if he can fix the marble level in a nice way, the existing one will work just fine
@@oskarthompson3789 The trouble is, I'm not sure he can. He's highlighted the problem before where the marbles settle in a different way in the lanes each time, due to the lanes having to be wider than the marbles to allow them to roll. So unless he has height correction right under the divider (which I have seen one design for, not sure if it would fit and it would be a lot more fiddly), it may well be impossible to ensure a consistent marble height.
And if he can remove the height modules, that leaves more room for transparent pipes
Martin's design looks better when viewing the machine from the front, which is the expected viewing position. Essentially the new design idea places a wall in front of the marbles. An observer in front of the machine will not see the marbles rolling along and falling into various channels.
Martin PLEASE incorporate that design for the divider that can handle different marble heights. I can already imagine the frustration of having to machine and carry with you ALL of those height modules all the time, with endless tinkering and trial and error for each channel. This suggested design could vastly simplify as well as provide more resilience to the machines functioning.
I think this design also looks awesome. It looks like it should be "easy" to add to the MMX.
That marble divider design that removes the requirement for height adjustment is elegance itself. No moving parts, screws to go loose or adjustability required.
It'll also save a lot of time when assembling the machine before a live show, since it's one less thing that needs to be tuned.
Maybe make the top part translucent to see the marbles, but yes simplicity at it's best.
If he doesn't implement that now he's going to hate himself later
i think the screw is just for the test to force the marble height so you can see it passing by easily no matter the height or simply falling in. on the actual device you wouldnt need the screw.
solid state solutions are the best solutions.
That prototype divider plus your new gate reduces complexity and part count. Scrap the height modules! Seriously break out the grinder! Pain is temporary!
Couldn't agree more. This new marble divider design is beautiful!
Glory is forever!
Don't fight moles with a mallet, remember the dragon, get out the grinder-sword!
+1 rosserobertolli marble divider replacement!
Rosseros designs are like mole repellents.
trueee
mole-proofing
Mole repellent = the rossero-factor :D
Martin,
The "constant radius" marble divider would eliminate so many issues: present and future. I know how much you've invested (continue to invest) into controlling marble lane heights. Here is a solution that nullifies that need altogether.
As a fellow engineer, I know how hard it is to scrap months of work when a better solution comes along... but it's the right move. I think this is such a moment.
With respect and admiration,
#painistemporary
#gloryisforever
#worldtour
Exactly! Well put sir
Sometimes we should admit that there are many geniuses in the world...
As a programmer I feel the pain of this situation.
But pain is temporary and glory is forever!!
I wonder if in that design marble speed would need to be precisely controlled instead of marble height.
@@mattmexor2882 Sort of - the marbles have a small amount of contact interference with the main channel, which slows them down.
You can adjust the speed by rotating the entire assembly to change how "downhill" the curved part of the queue is relative to the main channel.
best part is no part
The height insensitive approach is a MUST Martin. An absolute must. The CORE problem causing all the systemic issues of the machine is the fact that you need to heights of the marble track to remain perfect. This has coupled all the parts together in a way where they all depend on each other to be finely calibrated, something which is a recipe for engineering disaster.
You MUST use this genius design, it will save the machine and save you months and months. Please Martin, please.
Yeah, we're really begging him. Whole comment section seems to be flooded with this suggestion. But do you really think we can change his mind?
@@spplS. It's worth trying. Worst case scenario, we get to tell him "I told you so" in 2022. :)
Though I do worry about an edge case where marbles fed to the marble divider from the top would push marbles passing the marble divider into one of those gates, and either get the marble divider stuck or end up on the floor ...
@@marcolammers and then there's an extra marble in said gate. Due to the constant radius it would still be enough out of the way to let others pass. I don't see the issue.
Thing is I do not think it is the messiah solution every else seem to think it is. It's is really neat and has a lot of potential, but it has not yet survived first meeting with reality.
Martin if you were to change that marble divider to that design then imagine the literally hundreds of parts you won't have to manufacture for the 30+ channels.
Although with the adjustable height modules that fit on all channels then at least it is only 30 copies of the same thing.
Those wont be needed
@@ninjafruitchilled that could be done in one part, just create the part and slot it qbove the old divider
Exactly what I was thinking. No more height adjustment! Kudos to the adjustable design, but it's stictly unnecessary complication: rather than having a solution to the requirement for precise height, make a divider that doesn't have that requirement! I worry that Martin is totally underrating the potential of this new divider.
@@MarioDiNicola Totally. Right now it's a precision design. What happens if there's some dust in the heigh module which heightens it just half a millimeter. That could require adjustment 'on the set'. Best work on parts which don't have any problem whatsoever. MMY it is
Martin, if you look through these comments the common theme you'll see is people begging you to adopt that new marble divider design. I'm one more. In four years and 171 videos I have never felt so strongly that a single concept was this essential to the success of the Marble Machine X.
This this this
I completely agree that this is probably the strongest the audience of these videos have ever felt about a single idea in the history of his channels
Couldn't agree more. The videos where he highlighted the problems with the marble divider convinced me it had to go. If one part is causing so many issues, it should be replaced! Pain is temporary, glory is forever
U know how we convince him? We say we won't argue against the kinetic fingers if he makes the new divider
Go to discord
so glad wintergatan is daily now
Seriously same
Imagine all the people that don't know about the second channel sadly waiting for a video on the main channel :(
Every day I get my daily dose of martin on my lunch break and I love it!
Me too m8
@@farmerwoody123 the original channel has more than 15 times as many subscribers, but it’s hard to tell how many of them actually watched all the videos when they came out
The new marble divider design is just so much better, combined with the pressure management system you wouldnt need any adjustments. It would likely take more time to adjust all the channels than just to make the new better designs. Also it seems that the path lenght is changing ever so slightly anyway so you would need to readjust every channel more than once, that sounds like hell. No need to fall for the sunk cost fallacy.
that marble divider is brilliant and seems like a way better alternative than having to regulate and tweak all the individual channels' heights
And it also eliminates a lot of parts needed for the adjustments, greatly simplifying design and manufacturing. It's as first principles as it gets.
And should be relatively easy to implement. Just cnc an addon
That marble divider was the single most important design I saw here. It solves the marble height problem once and for all, instead of simply chasing its multitude of manifestations over and over. It's also entirely compatible with existing systems and designs. Very little would need to be changed to accommodate it.
It also uses a marble as the counter weight. Slap half of a PMA pipe over it to cover it, so the marble doesn't escape, and it becomes another visual aspect.
@@SoraHjort They are talking about the channel divider at the top not the divide by 4 for overflow
You need that new marble divider. Combined with the zigzag pressure relief design, you can completely eliminate both the height modules and the pressure modules. That's going to be priceless on tour.
I think you and Martin misunderstood the zigzag. It's not a pressure relief system, it is a height system. He should be using this instead of the new divider
@@BloomThat You're thinking of the wrong device. I'm referring to the device shown from 1:00 to 2:10 being used in conjunction with the the device shown from 6:27 to 9:50. If those are used together, there will be no need for any sort of height adjustment or pressure adjustment.
@@BloomThat It does both. In order for it to be height insensitive, it also has to relieve pressure.
No, Don't fight for the current marble divider! All you're replacing is the top part! Everything else can remain the same!
So, new self-pressure-regulating marble gate and the curved marble catcher and all of your problems will be solved, without the need to adjust anything, so the MMX jiggeling about in transport can't even mess it up. That is the dream. Perfection exists.
That marble divider design is amazing! Way better than the current design with the height modules, imo.
That new divider, and the new marble gates would make a very simple and universal solution, no need for height modules, nor Pressure control !
When it comes to engeneering Simpler is better !
The divide by 4 is great too !
The height insensitive divider is so simple and elegant, please consider prototyping it!
Just imagine zero adjustment for every lane.
Also think about the saying on your angle grinder :P
You don't need to give the old marble divider design a try. It has caused problems from the beginning. The constant radius design is more robust and will save lots of parts!
Martin is too deep in the lost cost fallacy, the other marble divider design is ways more elegant, simpler, has less parts, completely negates the need for height adjustment, which means that also wont affect the marble pressure and it would be easy to implement.
Aw man, that divide-by-four just reminded me of a common thing in engineering: hysteresis! I use that in electronics a lot, and it basically means that once something reaches a threshold and 'trips', the threshold to then 'un-trip' is lower than whatever force originally called it to trip. It makes transitions between states very well defined and definite.
A lot of subsystems on the MMX have hysteresis issues, actually. The divide-by-4, the fish stair, etc.
Oeh Today I Learned, Thanks!
Hysteresis loops are good for preventing self-oscillation, so the start and stop are far enough apart to not make the thing shake itself to bits.
I like the fact that controllers using that principal are sometimes called "bang-bang controllers"
A good example is automatic headlights of a car. On a scale from 0 "pitch black" to 100 "brightest conditions" it needs to go below 70 shortly to turn on the lights but above 80 for 5 continuous seconds to turn them back off.
Never be afraid to accept someone else's idea as being better than yours. If the advantages are readily apparent you have nothing to lose by adopting it.
I love when people come along with good solutions to problems just because they can
some people are just smart and no where to put it lol. me, im just super lazy
Martin with the marbledivider be like : this is brilliant..., but i like this
jumping on the bandwagon and saying the new marble divider would be a massive improvement
Never before has the adage, if you can't make it perfect, make it adjustable, been shown so clearly.
Mr Martin, you have to let these designers help you more.
If you had never said, "I'm going to quit", I'd say let you build it your way and we'll root for you, but not be too surprised if it's never finished. But you did.
So please let these fine minds help you finish what has become more than you can handle.
You now have 9000 believers/investors in your project,
This probably have been raised multiple times but a thing I keep thinking when I see the «pressure» management and the marble height is that they are not orthogonal.
Modifying the pressure changes the height and changing the height (slightly) changes the pressure.
This is a mole generator :o In software we call it «separation of concerns». The first two design here seem very appropriate for that matter!
...no no no, Martin, what did we talk about. They are not washers, they are Precise Adjustment Rings
Improvise. Adapt. Washer.
@@louisvaught2495 And then angle-grind it all away when it doesn't work out...
I've watched **every single episode** on the MMX so far, and I don't know if it's just me, but I still love seeing you go through different iterations, remaking old parts and improving on the design. I'm sure some people just want to see you make compromises left and right and get the machine finished, but personally I love seeing you each day, reaching closer to perfection. Admittedly I cannot imagine the amount of patience required for a project like this. Martin you truly are an astonishing individual, only an extreme minority of people could work this hard, for this long on the same project
Keep up the good work, even though I've been watching you for over 4 years now, I still actively look forward to the next episode, stay up late at night, refreshing my inbox for the next video.
P.S If it were up to me I would pull the trigger on that new marble divider lane, it's too brilliant to use, and would save so much time while also improving reliability significantly!
I like the completely random grading system 😁
What do you grade his grading systems? I rate them as at least one world tour
@@ekksoku I would grade it at least one tacocat riding a laser shark
@@ekksoku 5/7
@@TWFydGlu Wow, a perfect score!
I give your comment 3 owls.
I would advise that new marble devider. as you won't have to change the height. Also when changing marble pressure you change the height and then have to readjust so with multiple design integrations you won't need either.
That's just awesome, made my day!
And don't worry, that's not the only marble that hit the floor
seriously awesome designs, man
I'm so glad Martin finally saw all your great work!!!
You are single handedly boosting the progress on this project. Great stuff man!
@@owenm3112 Not single handedly, not by far, have a look in the description for all credited contributors, but thanks!
@@rosserobertolli Ah I see. The wintergatan/mmx community has got to be the greatest online community. So many interested and motivated people in one place.
Martin, we all love your current marble divider.
But we all know this version is much better. Not having to have all the marbles flush would be incredibly great.
I'd say don't fight for it, Martin, it's not worth saving.
Then again, it's your call.
I mentioned on another video that the divide by 4 needed hysteresis, the variable counter weight one is a brilliant way of doing that.
Just want to point out, in case you didn't realize, that the Zig Zag design not only controls pressure, but it also ensures a perfectly consistent top-height if this were used below the marble divider - removing the need to have height modules all together.
I can't engineer or cad or anything, but it definitely looks like the community has got your back, making this project more than yourself and truly embracing it has and will be the way to finish your masterpiece
Sunken time fallacy! The constant contact radius divider looks like a way better solution
At this point it’s pretty clear that the fate of the MMX is to become a modular, community designed marble based music machine, assembled by Martin.
Stop messing with marble gates that require fine tuning the height adjustment and go with the curved marble divider that doesn't care about marble height. It's a shame that you seem to just write that one off, it's the definition of simplicity and functionality.
I think this is the right direction. To redesign instead of fixing. I really enjoy following the day to day stuff.
I go through this approach daily in my software development work. You do something that works, next week it doesn't work because something else has changed so you put a bandaid on it and move on. Two months later you realize your bandaid fell off and something else isn't working. You do a whole new design and it works great now. The thing to remember is you can't always predict what problems will arise from a solution that solves all of your current problems. Future problems will occur and you either put a bandaid on it, or you reengineer it to be better. I love seeing the physical process to what I do in software every day. Even if it means 10 designs, I love the iteration process this machine goes through.
I can totally understand your desire to see your previous designs work but when someone else designs something for you, which replaces but simplifies the whole system and causes other parts to become unnecessary, it's probably time to listen to your head, especially since you are wanting to finish the project ASAP.
Some great designs here but the marble divider would be even better if machined from something clear so you can see the balls from the front.
Have to agree, after all what is the point of a design review if you don't take the most effective design forward?
After seeing these design solutions, I am so excited for what's to come in the progression of the Marble Machine X project!!
The the fish stair entry device and the adjustable modules are a MUST DO! I'm also eager to see what this community produces in terms of the divide-by-four mechanism and its application.
I simply cannot wait for tomorrow's video.
Regarding the pressure relief system (6:36): both Rossero and you incorporate fully threaded fasteners as a marble stop pin in your designs. The design then slides components - either the marble or the moving mechanism - along the thread. This is a source of friction and / or system noise x 38 channels. Consider substituting a smooth surface where any item translation / sliding occurs. Some suggestions: partially threaded shafts (www.mcmaster.com/97042A158/), a clevis pin with the head captured in an internal cavity or slot (www.mcmaster.com/93131A380/), or perhaps a threaded standoff to cover the screw threads (www.mcmaster.com/93090A665/)
very good idea!
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Just throwing in my hat to also say, PLEASE use that marble divider design. It will save you SO much grief if you don't have to worry about adjusting heights.
I love to see all the communities ideas put in the MMX. It's like apes together strong
Wouldnt the "curved marble catcher" make hight adjustment obsolete? I love the "spinning marble devider!!! One at the top and teo below and you have a continuous 4-lane-splitter!
I was hoping he'd look at the marble height module suggested in the discord but that new divider would make even that unnecessary!
These designs are galaxy brain, especially the curved marble divider. Never would have thought of that in a million years.
Holy jebus, incorporate practically all of those into your design, AND *THEN* CNC it!
Got a point there
This is WAY easier said than done... SOOOOOO many times I have cad drew an entire assembly to start building it, laser cutting 3d printing cnc routing, even manual machining, to realize that the scale I've drawn details in is completely unrealistic, in this project Martin can bring the parts into his total assembly for a much better idea of scale but like I'm working on a custom quadcopter right now, and I keep having to remind myself that the body is only 30mm wide, and I'm not going to be able todo any work inside the body, so everything I design must be able to be soldered/assembled outside of the body and then bolted in, but in cad on my computer screen, the body looks like its 4 inches across... I hope you get the idea, it is a very important part of the process to make things you can hold in your hands, we do it with the laser cutter a lot just out of cardboard so we can get an idea of the fit and feel of a design...
That marble divider removes the needs for height adjustment. Which is kind of sad considering all the wonderful ideas that exist to solve the height adjustment.
@@killorkubed I think I was more leaning towards the whole "import into the total assembly" than anything else. I've never used CAD, or a 3d printer let alone a CNC machine.
I just really want him to get *the full design* set up and *then* start machining. Cause it sounded like he was going to create one piece, fit it in, then another piece, fit that in, etc. And that just seems like a recipe for "moles" to pop up.
@@dsfisher You're talking about that wheel that sent marbles in two directions?
We only saw it working under free flow, and not under any back-up or pressure.
It *COULD* resolve the height problems, but it isn't definitive yet.
Hats off to the auto-adjustable marble divider! 👌👏👏👏👏
Every youtuber eventually becomes pewdiepie. This is Martin’s final transformation
**when the MMX is done**
Gods of engineering: "Martin. What were you doing for so many years ?"
Martin: "redesign"
As a designer myself I must say that I'm very impressed with these designs, as well as the testing/demonstration.
The spelling, not so much. 😊
1:11 The Curved marble catcher is the best improvement in this video. To get rid of the dependency of the gates being exactly correct length and the marbles not queueing with offset from center line will improve the performance on tour. Not having to calibrate the length either with different parts or adjustable pressure reducers will give you less headache.
And my soul has been restored after a Day of hard Work...
That marble divider is pure genious! No height adjustments needed. So many fever fiddly parts. So many potential moles wacked in one blow! Give some prize to that designer!
Finally my day is complete
Same
Same
Yup 😊
How the heck, did your comment ten minutes before the video came out?!
@@vanillawaffle7303 probably Patreon or membership benefits
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nice :D
Try the constant radius thing ASAP! There's literally a nation of moles that could go extinct forever
You NEED to implement that marble divider. It would solve so many other problems of having to fine-tune height adjustment sections, worry about not getting it right, etc. It's a really elegant solution from an engineering perspective.
really confused why you seemed more excited about the part that lets you variably adjust the marble heights than you are about the incredibly simple and easy to implement solution that completely eliminates the need to adjust the heights in the first place?
being able to precicely adjust something is much less useful than NOT NEEDING to adjust it at all.
I kind of feel the same way as Martin. Seeing it in action is pretty cool. But yeah, one simple part, vs 38 with multiple pieces and moving parts... Go with the simpler solution. The modules aren't even visible anyways and that space can be reclaimed.
@Erik Näslund My first reaction was to use the adjustable height "modules" and leave the marble divider in place. Might be a desire to see the current design working, or that all the marbles in the pipes would be aligned.
PLEASE make use of these designs. There are so many issues that you wouldn't have to encounter if you implement them!
That calculus "box" is a university-level maths book that weighs about 3 kilos.
Yep, first time I needed it after graduating though
@@rosserobertolli you sir, are a treasure.
@@rosserobertolli Priceless comment! PRICELESS! :D
@@rosserobertolli I can't tell if that's because you used calculus in the design process, or if you were just using the book as a literal paper weight...
@@InventorZahran As a paperweight, as usual
This was so cool! I'm really glad you posted this. You see all the good suggestions in the YT comments and discord, and wonder what you see and what you don't see. Sometimes I feel like there is some good stuff that you miss out on. It was also just cool seeing other people's ingenious designs! I can definitely see some of these concepts getting incorporated into MMY
I've said it before, and I'll say it again; Rossero, you are my hero!
Seems like the zig zag design may produce unwanted noise with multiple lanes...
great point.
but even if in plywood? possibly that would be acceptable noise?
I think the noise is more because it is plastic, hard plastic is a lot louder. Plus, in rosero's prototype he had a stack of 10 marbles on top, plus a 2lbs weight. Which is going to make it a lot louder. I think in real life it would be quieter (especially when it is more encased like in martins design). Actually, I think i recall rosero saying on the discord that it sounded a lot louder on camera than in real life.
well if Martin implements Rossero's curved-path marble divider idea then the whole part becomes unnecessary anyway
@@OntarioTrafficMan the zigzag is a height system by itself. It requires no changes to the current marble divider and I don't know why everyone is missing this
@@BloomThat We can see that perfectly well. It's just that creating a height-insensitive marble divider is a more robust and flexible solution. I
The zig-zag height module needs to be placed immediately under the marble divider, which is in itself a nuisance, and it itself is yet another part that needs to remain within very tight tolerances to work properly.
I really hope that the height resistant marble divider gets bookmarked. I am so scared that once all of the other marble paths are put in for the rest of the machine it will get so complicated up at the marble divider something like this new idea will be necessary.
These are all awesome, but the adjustable height modules is particularly brilliant. Being able to re-adjust the marble height while on the road sounds invaluable.
not as brilliant as the marble divider concept which eliminates the need for height modules altogether
@@OntarioTrafficMan That's true. In the interest of time, the modules seem to be the easiest to implement, but both seem to be a good solution.
Hell, including both would actually not be a terrible idea given that it also adds some adjustment on how the marble divider behaves. Extra mallets to whack eventual moles.
@@OntarioTrafficMan yea if he uses the pressure relief system above the gates and the constant radius marble divider, he instantly eradicates the moles hes been fighting with for literally months now.
martins designs are super duper cool but have slowly turned into sunken time fallacy. imagine all these finely tuned, interdependent, sensitive, assemblies rattling around in a truck while on tour... :o
but these fine minds wacked the hell out of these moles. i just hope that he implements them but ey its his machine
@@SteelSkin667 Yeah, a new marble divider has to be designed, and possibly all the adjacent parts as well; like the tracks from the conveyor and the PMA pipes. In theory at least, the adjustable height modules should slot right in. Seeing the adjustable modules in action is actually pretty cool, but I'm leaning towards the new marble divider. It removes the 38 modules you'd need, which have multiple parts each, with a single part. It's also essentially the same design just flipped on its side.
For me, that adjustable height module was the coolest design mentioned here. I hope you are able to implement it or something similar.
It's so exciting to see all of this! These are really cool designs!
I really think the design that doesn't need the marbles to hit a specific height is going to eventually have to be added
I love that Pewdiepie recently referenced Martin in one of his video and Martin is referencing him with the famous meme review clap. That mix makes me happy.
It is Totally Not Meme Review Tuesday my dudes...
Yeah... It kinda is
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I have never felt so confused
Martin, think about how much work went into adjusting the 6 channels you have now with the heights. Now think about how many other channels you have!
That new divider will save so much work. It will also bring down part count, weight, maintenance, and most importantly open up the front of the Marble Machine X and give you a lot more aesthetic choices!
I'm curious, how did Martin go from "I don't have time to make videos" to "I'll make a video every day"? I'm not complaining because I watch them all but I was curious.
He hired an editor and reduced his perfectionism stat for this channel.
He made time I think. It forces him to work in a slower more steady and consistent rate which will mean his work is more effective as he needs to set aside time for the video and while he does so he has time to think. The videos also act as documentation and reflection, further improving his work.
I think it's because the videos on the main channel demand more work and thoughts into them, whereas on this channel they are more easy to do. And also, on Wintergatan 2, Martin said that having to do one video a day keep him motivated to work and have something to show! :)
He talked about feeling as though he was prioritizing the production of weekly big-concept videos over working on the machine, so he stopped with the weekly uploads. Then he realized that he can put less effort into documenting some of the more mundane tasks and send the footage off to Hannes to edit.
Basically, he’s cool putting less work into shorter, more frequent videos.
He changed his standards for these videos; these videos are "good enough" while the others were full of "I am going to tell a good story" perfectionism. "Good enough" happens to also be fantastic in this case and it's a great change to see him make - and I think the difference on our end is not so big as the difference on his. At least at the moment daily seems to be helping him keep on task and perfectionism under control in general, as well; I hope that when that ceases to be the case he won't be too afraid to change it again.
Also, he's not doing the editing :)
Love the intro. You even have the ironic Swedish throaty vowels. Fantastic
Martin, I’ve been so worried with your current design that despite your system’s adjustability, it would need continuous tweaking as materials sag and reposition over time. Please, please switch to that constant radius marble divider, that will help avoid having to continuously tune your machine.
Martin, I know there are already a ton of comments on here about putting in that new marble divider design, but I'm about to add one more. I know you've put in a lot of work and are proud of the adjustable height modules but that new divider design is perfect. It has no moving parts, no adjustment needed, I would imagine its fairly simple to machine, would save you so much time down the line, and free up much needed space on the front of the machine where the modules are currently. I truly don't think there is a better design than it. Be proud of your module design, it's great, but this is a better solution outright. I love your videos, have a good day, and please consider that design more deeply.
This is Star Trek level cooperation.
I love how accessible your engineering content is. Going through and picking out episodes, I could base a decent design and tech curriculum on your videos.
These are some interesting ideas, that will certainly fix the current MMX problems :)
I agree with everyone in the comments. You should totally adopt that height-insensitive marble divider design, it's probably the best design improvement idea in months (if not years). It would eliminate the need in dozens of extra parts, free some space on the machine and streamline the whole system.
I'm actually really surprised that you didn't really react to it. I thought you would be on board with it the moment you see it, just as all of us here are.
C'mon, you literally have a design that requires no adjustment for marble height, yet you still choose not to implement. I am sure I am speaking for everyone in a sense that we really love seeing your personal improvement, but you seem to still have a habit of trying to work your way though the weeds rather than walking on the trail. I have no clue why you still want to deal with adjustable marble heights rather than going with a zero height adjustment design. Look up the SUNK COST FALLACY. Don't fall into the trap of trying to make your designs work until you have to simply give up on them again. I just don't want you to fall into a funk again.
Maybe because he (probably unconscious) enjoys smacking the moles and reinventing the wheel more than he wants the result? Because this is exactly what I do with my side-project - I intentionally do not look up the solutions because the knowledge that the result is possible alone makes finding your own path enjoyable.
@@Nworthholf Agreed. It is a good feeling to find solutions on your own. I suppose it is all his decision to make. On the other hand, completing projects is also satisfying.
For artistic projects sunk cost fallacy isn't always bad, you don't always want the most efficient solution in your art, that's why it's art. IDK how much Martin values each factor. I can think of a few video game mechanics that make absolutely no sense, but were left over from an early development stage, but make those games uniquely stand out.
@@thewhitefalcon8539 I see your point. Yes, these offshoots do offer an opportunity for artistic venture. I am not an art focused person, so I have no leg to stand on from that vantage point, but there is no reason you can’t be artistic when starting with a well engineered solution. Can an artist call themselves an artist if they cannot expand off of a functioning base point? Martin is also showing a deep desire (in my opinion) to complete a working instrument. It is clear he wants to reach that goal. If he wants that done in a reasonable amount of time, he needs to focus on what works. Of course, he only set a goal, no timeline. So we could be well having this discussion 20 years down the road and he will still be working on this machine. Is it a bad thing? Not necessarily.
That... thumbnail.. it all started wirh the 4.20mm in the previous video.. I love it
there's no better way to finish the day.
Replace everything with these solutions, this is amazing! :D
Whenever Martin is happy, I'm happy as well. :) Fingers crossed for the new prototypes!
New marble divider could eliminate so many parts and adjustments.
All that extra time could be used to compose/play music instead of tweak heights of each lane.
Please consider installing the new divider and remove the need for height adjustments.
Opening seconds confirms it: Martin is a 19-year-old. Maybe even a 9-year-old 🤔
the critical factor that seems to be present in these new designs seems to come down to two marbles at critical locations
Protect martins smile!
With our lives 💪🧠
True. Martin has a really endearing smile.
@@zetaconvex1987 im totally not waiting so i can say protect martins smile on todays video
those are some big brain designs 👏🏻
you have an awesome community 💪🏻
please dont ignore a good solution if you see it. dont let yourself be overwhelmed with the sunk cost fallacy. Dont be a hypocrite!
Maybe this can be a community driven project, where you delegate design issues away. Also dont push you ideas through if they arent good and let the designers come up with their own original ideas.
I love this project and the community feedback. That all goes back to you Maarten. You are so open to new ideas and thinking. I know this whole thing is a painful grind for you (and us lol) but I really enjoy the journey with all of it's ups and downs.
All that being said, there are some AWESOME designs here. DO IT!!!!
This was a great episode! (Me from the future)
Jeez. Some people are such brilliantly creative engineers.
the circle is complete, first, one swede 'felix' watches wintergatan, but then a second swede 'martin' watches pewdiepie.
When did felix watch martin ?
Felix watched wintergatan?
My Face Reveal 2.0 at 2:32
Martin, I think it's very cool that you've inspired engineers all over the world to freely and eagerly help you finish the MMX. This project is a big deal to a lot of us, and I think the journey is just as important as the end result. Keep it up.
DESIGN 👏 REVIEW 👏
Don’t be afraid to start over because this time you won’t be starting from scratch, you will be starting from experience.