I'd wish they made the minor buffs passive and have the major buffs PROC on non-enemy players. They have this technology and they use it on 2 sets already. Can't be that hard, comon ZoS.
I have a neuropathy in both arms because of a car accident. The oakensoul ring allows me to get back to the level of play that I had when I first started playing this game years ago.
Totally agree 100% on your comments! Was not able to solo dungeons and arenas and was getting quite bored because I like to explore solo. Being able to take down World Bosses by myself for the first time was such an awesome experience! Keeping the Oakensoul in PvE only is such a no Brainerd! I am beginning to think the company really doesn't care what the community thinks. Learned so much from your program Mr. Lee! Thanks for your input on helping a newbie like myself learning to be a decent tank..
Exactly. The World bosses and Events is a bitch to grind when you run solo and nobody are doing them so you are stuck there alone often having to wait 30+ min for someone to finally respond to your request for help.. it is so draining and boring.. I have always wanted to complete all Overworld content in every zone but I never could. Having Oakensoul has made this possible for me but as soon as I heard about the nerf, I just stopped.. whats the point if its getting nuked to the point that its useless for Solo play. I have been on and off this game for years and this finally had me excited to actually complete zones and story missions all together solo. Really hope they actually see how unhappy people are about this and because its such an easy fix to just activate Battle Spirit, they didnt do it for this round of PTS Patch notes.
WB are easy without oakensoul. You need to use high resource restrain food and skills that heal while doing damage. Also sets like hexos ward work great
Been playing eso since 2017, video games in general since the early 1970s. I am pretty good at most that I have tried, including eso. But I now live in Malaysia, and my ping is around 400 most of the time. Oakensoul has been fantastic in helping me not die during barswap, and simplifying the number of APM that my PC and the servers need to transact, which therefore improves my performance and interactability. I still have 200-400 ping at best, I will still be last through that dungeon door even if i was first to go through, i will never beat you to a treasure chest or node, but Oakensoul has allowed my general level of performance to go up simply because the server has %50 less calculations to work through per second because I am only using one bar . Simply activating Battle Spirit would solve %100 of the angst surrounding this wonderful mythic.
Battle spirit is such a great feature but zos just doesnt use it enough So many things get nerfed/buffed for pvp or pve but improve/make the other worse Battle spirit allows for there to be balance in both aspects but zos just doesnt utilise it
I am old and disabled but I am lucky in that I manage fine in content, personally, but I took a lot of people in to content they could not hope to do before and that is completely down to the Oakensoul ring. Reducing accessibility and stopping disabled people from doing content they could do before is not on, really. This really should never have been changed and just disabled for pvp content.
Thanks for the valid analysis of dps changes that’s going on in ESO. I been in a car accident and broke my neck. Totally paralyzed in my hands and fingers, but have found a way to do decent dps on a 2 bar build (70k in trials). Oakensoul made it easier to do Vetestran, Maelstrom and so on. Tried where we are going on the PTS and I am losing a lot of dps on my 2 bare build in dudgeons manely from light attack.
Im not disabled but i always have lag bar swapping and sometimes my bars dont work correctly or swap at all. this ring helped so much... well, zos really frightens me rn with these weird updates
I think you nailed it. If they’d like they could modify it to be nerfed in pvp, and if they feel they need to, could have sort of a leveling system depending on how many people are in your group 🤷♂️
I'm a critic of Oakensoul and was totally against this item in the game, but your comment made me see the item from another perspective now and really it doesn't affect PVE directly, I hope ZOS also hears its appeal and from as many other players as to these changes in the game, which in my opinion is very crude, it is not only the item Oakensoul that your comment is valid for but also for the weakening of classes that are like a bucket of cold water on players, in the end your comment is very valid and relevant let's hope that ZOS hears us this time and that I and others don't have to dig holes for our items and classes.
The same people that changed the sound of the werewolf feeding, are making the final decisions for the game today. They don’t play video games themselves, they odds are, look down on people who do. They laugh as they make sweeping changes to the game that bothers the majority of people. They bait and switch DLC content with really cool mythic items or gear that they just break only weeks later, or a really cool crafting thingy, or new treasure hunting mechanic, that you can only get with the DLC. “Get it now collectors edition 79.99!” Just for us to give it away for free a couple years from now! If the majority of the player base does this one certain thing, everyone gets a free house!! You just have to buy the new DLC to access it ^_^!” “Do you want unarmed fighting mechanics and spellcasting? How about some bound weapon spells like the good old days!” “We will just make some limited time, Crown store loot box weapons that look like bound weapons, How’s that sound?” All the decisions over the years have led me to come to this final conclusion. The captain of the ship, does not like boats, loathes everything about them, and especially the people that enjoy them.
Great video your are 100% right iam up in age I use ring and play games with my little brother i cant keep up with him the ring helped me keep up with him on dungeons and levels its sad when he told me its going to turn it down he makes builds for 1 bar its easy for me I reckon ill try to keep up with no ring or stop playing
HTM brought a video out a few days ago about the oakensoul ring and a very good idea that i hope zos take notice of, why dont they revert the big hitting major buffs to their minor versions if battle spirit is active, theres already a system in place that uses it (rallying cry for one) so its not like they have to add anything into the game and it will leave pve untouched, i think the u35 changes have solidified the top content creators in what zos has done wrong so hopefully they will listen to the guys who know how things work and dont base their experience on 8 guys dummy humping like zos did
It sure feels like it, but shrugging your shoulders and accepting it wont help the community. The majority of the comments I ready in most of these videos are people they said this ring was for being stabbed in the back after paying for the expansion, so I dont think this is in their best interest to keep doing this. People are leaving and its getting a bad taste
In general I agree that oakensoul was really the best way to make more challenging content available to everyone, but there were certain buffs that were really extreme, like 100% uptime on major heroism which resulted in sorcs being able to have 100% uptime on the atro and sometimes even have 2 atros active. Actually I haven't been able to get my stamsorc to perform better with 2 bars than one bar with oakensoul and two pets. I think 2 bars should outperform a one bar build, but the ring should be an OK way to narrow that gap between 1 and 2 bars.
For me, Oakensoul was fun to play around with, but didn't come close to my 2 bar damage output. The new version is a lot worse. This was not aimed for people like me, though, but I don't begrudge anyone wanting to use it in pve content for more damage, or just for fun. It really did not need changing. The fact it caused major issues in pvp means some change is required, the easiest of which is disabling it in pvp.
For one Major Heroism is only 100% uptime during fights, not all the time. Secondly if you do better with one bar with Oakensoul than two bar it says you have issues with two bar. It does not make a decent player even better with one bar over two.
I recall back in 2017 i broke one of my hands but picked up ESO becuse it was so easy to play at lower levs with only 1 hand. But when i hit endgame i was not able to play properly and quit and im back now when i heared about okensoul. I do hope its still viable.
100% agree. Oakensoul has made this game alot more fun for me. I'm definitely getting better, but I'll never be at the level that the elites are at. Plus, i play builds that most don't and Oakensoul makes the builds fairly viable. I was on the verge of quitting until Oakensoul came out. Now that it's getting nerfed and all these other P35 changes.... idk if I'll be playing much longer.
@@The_Gravemind what? When did I say anything like that? Why is there always someone that comes in and says something so stupid and completely off topic to the post your commenting on? 🤦
Yeah I use "non-meta builds" too.. I HATE playing meta in all games and I refuse to chase it. I have a Viking Warden I use as a Crafting character and I play through some story content with him. I have a Robin Hood type theif nightblade that I like to run around with and I play through some content with him. There is nothing Meta about what I do and I dont do PvP so what I do affects no-one but me as a Solo player. I mean I pay for the game, so let me play the game? So what if I can't do trails.. I never would anyways. Been on and off this game for many years and I was so determined to quit before High Isle came out. The Ring got me to buy it because it meant I could do ALL overworld content with my non-meta characters. It's a slap in the face to anyone who thought they could have any casual fun in this game because sweatlords will allways be swearlords and it doesnt affect me.
Another great video. Thank you! It would be very simple to make Oakensoul apply differently in PvE and PvP, by adding “when battle spirit is active apply minor versions of the following buffs…” as suggested by SkinnyCheeks, or by adding Aegis and Slayer (probably minor) as suggested by Deltia. Or the conditions of battle spirit could be changed. As you say - accessibility to content (and lifting the floor) are very important for game sustainability and for wider enjoyment. ZOS - please listen!
problem with Aegis and Slayer is that it ignores overworld content. The nerf to general combat is a big nerf and affects the Oakensoul too. so even if they only nerfed the combat, Oakensoul will still do less than it does atm, but it wouldnt feel nuked. As a Solo player I would rather have the Battle Spirit suggestion pull through and PvE would still be accessible for the target audience as it doesnt afferct other players in PvE.
Agreed. I had a a friend who can't swap bars due to disabilities. Doing fast rotations or hard content is a no go with him. Do yes this ring would help someone like him.
Like you I only play tank through content, this means arenas too. If these nerfs are finalized then I better go grab oakensoul now so I can finally complete vVH and get my perfected void bash before it’s too late.
I loved the content and really wish I could continue to play eso. Sadly with this nerf to the ring I'll be moving on to something else. Keep up the great work you do on your site!
@@rain_3686 i know no such game. But my point was leaving eso for one ring shows how op this thing is. You cant balance this ring at all because if you really want ppl with disabillitys to have a viable item to help them it has to be so op that every Pver is going to run it
I kinda agree but I do see a problem. Yes in a trial group you can do more with 2 bars but solo or 4 man you can’t. You won’t have a very good major force uptime with 1 or 2 support running a horn. I also see we now just run 4 dps with oakensoul which is what I have been doing as a tank. I run pa and war machine and able to tank pretty much every vet dungeon with my setup and hit some huge dps also.
They could have easily put major slayer on it instead of major berserk. And didn't even do that. Just looking at that tells me that they are not really open to any compromise with this ring. It did its job, it sold them the chapter, time for the players to put it in their bank. With the latest nerfs on top, accessibility of VMA or VVH will go down by a lot.
YES! Battle Spirit is something that should be added to EVERY piece of gear in the game, then add a 2nd effect to every piece of gear for when Battle Spirit is active. EDIT: ZoS should go one step further and do the same for every skill/passive too.
the only thing zos needs to do is go hand in hand with content creators.every patch will be wayyyyy better than it is if they do their own thing because obviously they have little to know clue how to balance their own game which is sad honestly.
I think you make a really good case, especially for console players. Switching bars on console is one of the biggest barriers to higher damage, because a) it requires coordination not everyone has and b) oftentimes it simply doesn't work at all. If im making a dungeon or trial group I can still stipulate that the ring is not allowed in my group and we can play however we want. Why take away a tool that's helping people and is to no detriment to others? And yes, pve and pvp needs to be separated but I feel like a broken record here. A lot of people have been saying this for ages and ZOS simply doesn't want to go there. They just do not want to do it.
I can't count the times when I hit my barswap button and nothing happened. I constantly find my self looking down to see what bar I'm on or casting the wrong thing, which is usually the case.
I'm definitely going to miss using Oakensoul with PB + Azureblight on random classes like templar, warden, and sorc. You could solo veteran dungs faster than if you queued up for a group or even with a full 4 man group because everything dies in just 1-2 rotations. Highly doubt they will bring it back but it's true, quite literally nothing even came close to the power that ring gave which is why it gives the accessibility that it does.
well i have played both with a tank pve and pvp solo !!! yes i think that the pve should be setup for pve only and pvp need to be setup for pvp with cp or non cp !! that why they keep nerfing gear setting that are from pve stuff went they are take over to pvp like must set that give a group able or solo able like the ring in this video but i also think there should be a cp tree just for pvp !!
I was able to get flawless conqueror and spirit slayer because of oakensoul. I started farming VVH to get all the weapons and I’m doing the same with VMA. I think your idea of having two versions is brilliant but I think ZoS has this God Complex where they think they know better and we’re just stupid peons. Well it will show when the patch goes live. I love this game but maybe it takes a mass exodus for them to pull their heads out of their ass. Look at Blizzard and Dragonflight expansion. It seems like Blizzard is listening. Again, I love this game, I just wish ZoS would listen more.
When a veeeeery endgame content creator pleads to have it reverted for pve, you know it should be. Even the pvp players want it reverted for pve. Most pvpers and pvers dont want their balance adjustments to shaft the other side
why can't ESO have separate balancing for PvE and PvP? well, the answer is simple - ZOS refuses to do so. but Oakensoul in PvP is outright broken. so it NEEDS to be changed/nerfed. Major Courage, Berserk, Protection, Force and Heroism (along other buffs that players that don't have Oakensoul have to apply and keep up) is just way too OP in PvP. Oakensoul is the first outright "pay to win" Mythic in ESO and that puts the game on a slippery slope. but many people have suggested changing the Courage to Slayer, Protection to Aegis and so on. that would make the ring as powerful (nearly) as the current iteration in PvE without making it OP in PvP. but since this has come from players ZOS will probably discard it, as we, the players, know nothing. or so they (ZOS) think..
Or, like the rallying cry set, you just have certain conditions set when battle spirit is active. No one even remotely argues or insinuates that it's not OP for PvP. What people are annoyed with is the lazy fixes like this that ZOS implements often times. If they just used a couple extra brain cells here and there they could fix items for both crows, but they typically just take a sledgehammer to things in the game.
Skills and passive are always changed because of pvp. Damage and damage reduction passives. Cp skills and so on as long as two games exist withing one the balance will always be crap
I really don’t understand why they just can’t make it only usable in PvE. And it disables in anything PvP. Because that seems where the massive complaints came from, and why it got a nerf.
You want a response? Well, these are my thoughts, not a simplified opinion. I messed around and beat Vet Vateshran with Oakensoul and no blue CP. I did it after the CP update and was unaware that my blue CP had been reset. I got the perfected dagger and shield. Something I never would have done without Oakensoul. And yes, I had tried before and stopped playing the game because I had no damage a few patches ago. And honestly, with all the changes that are being made, I don't understand what they want me to do at this point. Get strong or be weak. I don't know. But i do know what other games want me to do. js. Also, I don't have 11 other friends to just hang out with, do trials with, and discuss what's good and what's not. Not because I can't find them, but because I have my own set of friends that I have talked to and played with since the launch of Halo 3. That's since the launch of XBOX LIVE itself. This game seems to require me to ditch those friends to play with 11 others that are going to hate me for some reason or another. Oakensoul prevented those hateful or resentful feelings and would've allowed me to play with randoms more often. Even though I honestly don't want to anymore, and that's because of the game's history with players like me as well as the issue like singing up to Band and Discord or you can't play. Nobody ever seems to mention that little problem with trials and or dungeons. Something ESO should do this themselves and not rely on third party apps to connect their player base. Because that's something Oakenseoul nor any other item they put into the game will ever fix. js. Oakensoul did change the game for me and I felt relevant for once. Take that away and i'll just go back to my friends in a heartbeat. I won't deal with toxic people nor the hate. I mean, at this point, with all the nerfs over the years and just everything they've done to this game. If they go through with this, I'll never install the game again like so many others. Especially with games like Solar Crown around the corner and with FF14 being so great. Something a lot of us recommend if you haven't tried it yet. Anywho, if this game plans to keep players like me. THEN I NEED TO FEEL RELEVANT... If not, then what am i doing with it? Playing to get frustrated???.. Signing in just to realize that i can't do damage anymore cause of some PVP video a dev watched. I mean, the nerfs have to stop cause that's all it really seems like anymore, and if that's the case then why do I play? Why play to be gated by a PVP community in a PVE community? They need to fix this or lose out. That is all.
Yeah I have seen so many videos on this filled with comments like this.. we are many who feel PvE and PvP needs to be seperated and PvE should never be nerfed because of PvP..
I agree with most things apart from discord. I am in multiple trial guilds and also run trials. The ability to be able to talk through mechs or make callouts or corrections mid fight is priceless, in content where players doing the wrong thing can literally wipe the trial. Similarly discord is a helpful place for putting both written mechanics and diagrams, also for organising those trials and allowing the raid lead to assign specific roles within group (portal, kite,left or right group, etc..). We don't ever require people to speak, but the likes of a voip system makes life easier for everyone and greatly improve the chance of a clear in content where people may not be commonly running together as a group or may be learning mechanics.
@@pklemming Don't get me wrong. I don't think Discord is bad or anything. I just thought that by now, most of these MMO companies would have their own ways of connecting their player bases or just partnering up and making it easier with direct links, sharable/universal accounts with discord and Band or their own thing that's linked in the game. Like how Microsoft does with Google you know. Idk I guess I thought that by now they'd have a better system to connect people to trials by now other than just lfgs. Especially when the trial goes bad. Because when that happens. I know I'll have to wait another day or another week once we fail. And that makes me not wanna even try anymore tbh. To me, Trials are a demoralizing cycle that we all deal with while we press on hoping for a change still.
@@distainedrogue536 A do puh trials, but it is mostly miss and very little hit I mostly do it for plunder chests. I would never do these in preference to my prog guild, though. Prog team versus random people is light and day. Yeah, we may take weeks to clear a hm but it is with friends and we are always learning. Prog runs are as much about the people as the win. There is no reason they could not do an integrated voip system, but not sure I would trust them to handle it. Plus, some of my guilds are cross game, or have social chat in them too. Saw one guild actually have a movie night, which I am not sure ZoS would support :) Anyway, you nay want to look at an additional prog to fill the gaps, or for a dungeon progression group for off nights to do hm and trifecta runs. It kind of mitigates the waiting whilst relying less on pugs.
I couldnt agree more. Im a hardcore pvper and yes, this was a pay to win mythic straight up, absolutely cracked, made you do twice the damage way easier. But I honestly believe it did great things in pve. For people with disabilities ofc is amazing but even for casual players it allowed them to do harder content. The solution is simple as you stated it here. 2 different tooltips for pve and pvp. Its not hard zos come on.
@@Sir_Moth Nah, its even worse than crown store items, if it was at least in the crown store you would be able to buy it with gold from other players but you need real money to buy the expansion. You pay, you get an insane advantage for pvp. Thats pay 2 win, easy and simple.
agree 100 - there are plenty players that are handicapped one way or another where the ring really is a breath of fresh air for whatever reasons - there is also it seems an element that does not want to ring as they feel they are unfairly affected by it - so ???? - maybe it can be made to work in PVE and not PvP or in this specific scenario but not that scenario - what I can say without prejudice to anyone is that this whole thing is tiresome and not good for all aspects of the game for many of us as the enjoyment and thrill is being lost somewhere in the mix.
My buddy has been playing with me recently, he loves oakensoul. He’s older, and it’s harder for him to barswap and keep up a million buffs. I can tell zos now, if they neuter oakensoul, he’ll likely put the game down again. It’s unfortunate, but many people hate having their builds sliced up for the sake of pvp, when they don’t even play pvp.
I have absolutely zero faith in eso’s combat balance team for the nerf. That they would nerf oakensoul in the patch they lie is about making the game more accessible and reducing the gap… bs. They can add major+minor aegis and slayer to fix it: nope, just nerf. Bye eso.
i have a question for u pvers, the major complaint in pvp community about oken was that it is like using, kinras 5th piece bonus, saxheel, olorime, essence thief, and heroism. which far outwieghs the back bar and 5 skills lost, so i dont see how it was not OP in pve as well? like a 1 bar build should have clear weaknesses as to hard content should be hard for every one, thats what makes it hard and fun. if u use a mythic with bonuses equal to 5 sets, it defeats the whole purpose of hard/vet content ? also as a side note, my biggest issue with oken was it gives u a head start in pvp, eg a 2 bar build wastes global cooldowns rebuffing, and oken players just go ham, so its a lot more pressure. i want your point of view :)
I saw videos of a few youtubers who did parses with traditional build and would get like 130k dps. Then use that same build with Oakensoul and average 40k less dps. The highest damage build I ever saw for Oakensoul was 104k. At the end of the day, you only have 5 skills and an Ultimate with Oakensoul so even with all the buffs it will never do as much damage as a 2 bar build. What it does do, it lets less experienced players do more damage than they are used to but also allows them to survive harder hits.
Some people just don't find joy in flailing fingers cycling through a rat's nest of skills and calling that "playing". You can do it, and do it well, but you may not like it. It's really kind of stupid. But in the end, it's just a greedy company doing the old bait and switch.
I hella agree with this!! It NEEDS to be separated from PVP. I'm personally a casual player who DOES NOT like PVP. I pay the monthly subscription in the game, but AS SOON as this nerf hits...that's is, I'm out.. I found the ring to be VERY fun, and actually made me want to play the game more often.
If the intent behind oakensoul was accessibility, it wouldnt have been pay gated and locked behind level 7 scrying. Why are we ok with this? Accessibility should never be pay gated. This was obviously to get people to buy a dlc to unlock easy mode
Idc either way I'm a ayer that doesn't want any of these mythical to exist period all I do know is run okensoul or if I'm in group I run the kilt shit is boring and dumb as fuck they create shit that is so overdone then take it away this is why the game is going downhill stop doing such drastic bullshit in a year time give time for your changes from last patch to even kick in and see how the game is going then add some more smaller ones and so on and so on not all content is for everyone simple as tht not everyone should be doing vet dlc trials there are barriers it's just how life is if you don't wanna improve as a player you aren't going to pass that barrier
Problem is if they make different versions of it for PVE/PVP, that opens up a precedent for all other sets in game to follow suit. I doubt the devs would give ideas like this to players
I think making different versions for pve/PvP is a great idea. I’ve been advocating for years that they need to use battle spirit more to separate how skills and sets function between PvP and pve. What’s balanced for pve, isn’t always balanced for PvP, and vice versa. What often happens is that something is over or under performing in pve or PvP. It gets adjusted and negatively affects the other. This doesn’t promote and healthy game community, and continues to drive a wedge. between the PvP and pve communities. We already have set that functions only while ballet spirit is active, rallying cry. I think more sets and skills that follow like this would be better for game on a whole.
Guys they literally already do lol. You get a "buff" while in pvp called Battle Spirit and it already causes other sets and items to be weaker in pvp while that buff is active.
@@Bumbum_Inspector there is battle spirit. The problem is that they adjust skills and sets themselves rather than adjusting it through battlespirit, and often times they over nerf/buff. So let’s say a set is overperforming in PvP, like oakensoul. Instead of adjusting it through battle spirit so that the changes only affects PvP, they adjust the the set itself causing a nerf on the pve side which wasn’t needed. If they would do all the adjustments through battlespirit, there’d be better balance, and a healthier and happy community.
If ur using oaken ring for pve and think ur gunna do vet trials hitting high dps ur dead wrong 😂its for ppl who wanna do solo arenas with heavy attack builds or ppl who quest, if u wanna do high dps and cant do a rotation bc of the high button smash its called a dot rotation
I use Oakensoul on almost every character I play now in PvP..... I hate it. You either have to join the darkside or get steamrolled right now. But I think its great for PvE. Amazing even. I would prefer a nerf that just makes it relatively useless in BGs at least, the same way Ring of the PO is useless in BGs.
Been playing eso since 2017, video games in general since the early 1970s. I am pretty good at most that I have tried, including eso. But I now live in Malaysia, and my ping is around 400 most of the time. Oakensoul has been fantastic in helping me not die during barswap, and simplifying the number of APM that my PC and the servers need to transact, which therefore improves my performance and interactability. I still have 200-400 ping at best, I will still be last through that dungeon door even if i was first to go through, i will never beat you to a treasure chest or node, but Oakensoul has allowed my general level of performance to go up simply because the server has %50 less calculations to work through per second because I am only using one bar . Simply activating Battle Spirit would solve %100 of the angst surrounding this wonderful mythic.
@@adammenhennett good point, the reason i hate it so much is because pvp. a good player using one bar should never ever bet a good player using two. oaken is so overtuned. but i see now how it helps certain pve players
I disagree, the nerf was needed I think because the point of the mythic wasn’t to boost casual players to endgame levels.. casual players will still be casual players they won’t be score pushing and in coordinated raids.. so they just needed something to boost them up a little bit to be a better casual player.. they don’t need something broken that can be abused by veteran players in PvP and PvE. Just my thoughts I think the mythic is still incredibly good and they will get a lot of good use out of it still.
👏 Battle spirit needs to start modifying set performance
On god! They did it with rallying cry why the hell can’t they standardize that?
I'd wish they made the minor buffs passive and have the major buffs PROC on non-enemy players. They have this technology and they use it on 2 sets already.
Can't be that hard, comon ZoS.
I have a neuropathy in both arms because of a car accident. The oakensoul ring allows me to get back to the level of play that I had when I first started playing this game years ago.
Bro I'm so with you
Totally agree 100% on your comments! Was not able to solo dungeons and arenas and was getting quite bored because I like to explore solo. Being able to take down World Bosses by myself for the first time was such an awesome experience! Keeping the Oakensoul in PvE only is such a no Brainerd! I am beginning to think the company really doesn't care what the community thinks. Learned so much from your program Mr. Lee! Thanks for your input on helping a newbie like myself learning to be a decent tank..
Exactly. The World bosses and Events is a bitch to grind when you run solo and nobody are doing them so you are stuck there alone often having to wait 30+ min for someone to finally respond to your request for help.. it is so draining and boring.. I have always wanted to complete all Overworld content in every zone but I never could. Having Oakensoul has made this possible for me but as soon as I heard about the nerf, I just stopped.. whats the point if its getting nuked to the point that its useless for Solo play. I have been on and off this game for years and this finally had me excited to actually complete zones and story missions all together solo. Really hope they actually see how unhappy people are about this and because its such an easy fix to just activate Battle Spirit, they didnt do it for this round of PTS Patch notes.
WB are easy without oakensoul. You need to use high resource restrain food and skills that heal while doing damage. Also sets like hexos ward work great
very well said....I hope ZOS is listening.
I completely agree!!
Been playing eso since 2017, video games in general since the early 1970s. I am pretty good at most that I have tried, including eso. But I now live in Malaysia, and my ping is around 400 most of the time. Oakensoul has been fantastic in helping me not die during barswap, and simplifying the number of APM that my PC and the servers need to transact, which therefore improves my performance and interactability. I still have 200-400 ping at best, I will still be last through that dungeon door even if i was first to go through, i will never beat you to a treasure chest or node, but Oakensoul has allowed my general level of performance to go up simply because the server has %50 less calculations to work through per second because I am only using one bar .
Simply activating Battle Spirit would solve %100 of the angst surrounding this wonderful mythic.
If they refuse to balance it seperatley in pvp they need to throw aegis and slayer onto it to make up for the minor effects
I agree I mainly tank as I can’t do a dps rotation well with hand issues but the ring has helped me a lot
Battle spirit is such a great feature but zos just doesnt use it enough
So many things get nerfed/buffed for pvp or pve but improve/make the other worse
Battle spirit allows for there to be balance in both aspects but zos just doesnt utilise it
I am old and disabled but I am lucky in that I manage fine in content, personally, but I took a lot of people in to content they could not hope to do before and that is completely down to the Oakensoul ring.
Reducing accessibility and stopping disabled people from doing content they could do before is not on, really.
This really should never have been changed and just disabled for pvp content.
100% you are right.
Thanks for the valid analysis of dps changes that’s going on in ESO. I been in a car accident and broke my neck. Totally paralyzed in my hands and fingers, but have found a way to do decent dps on a 2 bar build (70k in trials). Oakensoul made it easier to do Vetestran, Maelstrom and so on. Tried where we are going on the PTS and I am losing a lot of dps on my 2 bare build in dudgeons manely from light attack.
Im not disabled but i always have lag bar swapping and sometimes my bars dont work correctly or swap at all. this ring helped so much... well, zos really frightens me rn with these weird updates
I think you nailed it. If they’d like they could modify it to be nerfed in pvp, and if they feel they need to, could have sort of a leveling system depending on how many people are in your group 🤷♂️
yeah like pale order ring. itd be so helpful
I'm a critic of Oakensoul and was totally against this item in the game, but your comment made me see the item from another perspective now and really it doesn't affect PVE directly, I hope ZOS also hears its appeal and from as many other players as to these changes in the game, which in my opinion is very crude, it is not only the item Oakensoul that your comment is valid for but also for the weakening of classes that are like a bucket of cold water on players, in the end your comment is very valid and relevant let's hope that ZOS hears us this time and that I and others don't have to dig holes for our items and classes.
The same people that changed the sound of the werewolf feeding, are making the final decisions for the game today.
They don’t play video games themselves, they odds are, look down on people who do.
They laugh as they make sweeping changes to the game that bothers the majority of people.
They bait and switch DLC content with really cool mythic items or gear that they just break only weeks later, or a really cool crafting thingy, or new treasure hunting mechanic, that you can only get with the DLC.
“Get it now collectors edition 79.99!”
Just for us to give it away for free a couple years from now!
If the majority of the player base does this one certain thing, everyone gets a free house!!
You just have to buy the new DLC to access it ^_^!”
“Do you want unarmed fighting mechanics and spellcasting?
How about some bound weapon spells like the good old days!”
“We will just make some limited time, Crown store loot box weapons that look like bound weapons,
How’s that sound?”
All the decisions over the years have led me to come to this final conclusion.
The captain of the ship, does not like boats, loathes everything about them, and especially the people that enjoy them.
Great video your are 100% right iam up in age I use ring and play games with my little brother i cant keep up with him the ring helped me keep up with him on dungeons and levels its sad when he told me its going to turn it down he makes builds for 1 bar its easy for me I reckon ill try to keep up with no ring or stop playing
I really hope they start balancing items differently for PVE and PVP.
Other big MMOs have done it for a long time; not sure how ZOS thought keeping everything together would be sustainable in the long haul.
Major aegis and slayer could be an effective way of differentiating between both
ZoS has battle spirit to balance pve and pvp. Why isn't it used more?
major/minor aegis and slayer are also effective differentiators
I suffer from CRPS I. Right hand/arm/neck and head and ring was game changer for me. Thanks for speaking up!
HTM brought a video out a few days ago about the oakensoul ring and a very good idea that i hope zos take notice of, why dont they revert the big hitting major buffs to their minor versions if battle spirit is active, theres already a system in place that uses it (rallying cry for one) so its not like they have to add anything into the game and it will leave pve untouched, i think the u35 changes have solidified the top content creators in what zos has done wrong so hopefully they will listen to the guys who know how things work and dont base their experience on 8 guys dummy humping like zos did
oakansoul was made to sell high isle
It sure feels like it, but shrugging your shoulders and accepting it wont help the community. The majority of the comments I ready in most of these videos are people they said this ring was for being stabbed in the back after paying for the expansion, so I dont think this is in their best interest to keep doing this. People are leaving and its getting a bad taste
100% agree
In general I agree that oakensoul was really the best way to make more challenging content available to everyone, but there were certain buffs that were really extreme, like 100% uptime on major heroism which resulted in sorcs being able to have 100% uptime on the atro and sometimes even have 2 atros active. Actually I haven't been able to get my stamsorc to perform better with 2 bars than one bar with oakensoul and two pets. I think 2 bars should outperform a one bar build, but the ring should be an OK way to narrow that gap between 1 and 2 bars.
For me, Oakensoul was fun to play around with, but didn't come close to my 2 bar damage output. The new version is a lot worse.
This was not aimed for people like me, though, but I don't begrudge anyone wanting to use it in pve content for more damage, or just for fun. It really did not need changing.
The fact it caused major issues in pvp means some change is required, the easiest of which is disabling it in pvp.
For one Major Heroism is only 100% uptime during fights, not all the time. Secondly if you do better with one bar with Oakensoul than two bar it says you have issues with two bar. It does not make a decent player even better with one bar over two.
As usual, they should have used battle spirit to nerf it’s effects by ~50% or something, but nope. Zos are hopeless
I 100% agree!!
I recall back in 2017 i broke one of my hands but picked up ESO becuse it was so easy to play at lower levs with only 1 hand. But when i hit endgame i was not able to play properly and quit and im back now when i heared about okensoul. I do hope its still viable.
i really think it should be effected by the PVP buff you get by entering said zones. and it should nerf it to what they changed it too
100% agree. Oakensoul has made this game alot more fun for me. I'm definitely getting better, but I'll never be at the level that the elites are at. Plus, i play builds that most don't and Oakensoul makes the builds fairly viable. I was on the verge of quitting until Oakensoul came out. Now that it's getting nerfed and all these other P35 changes.... idk if I'll be playing much longer.
You don't need to worry about damage for doing crafting writs and casually questing.
@@The_Gravemind what? When did I say anything like that?
Why is there always someone that comes in and says something so stupid and completely off topic to the post your commenting on? 🤦
@@The_Gravemind there is always at least one idiot posting in the comments. It appears we found you.
Yeah I use "non-meta builds" too.. I HATE playing meta in all games and I refuse to chase it. I have a Viking Warden I use as a Crafting character and I play through some story content with him. I have a Robin Hood type theif nightblade that I like to run around with and I play through some content with him. There is nothing Meta about what I do and I dont do PvP so what I do affects no-one but me as a Solo player. I mean I pay for the game, so let me play the game? So what if I can't do trails.. I never would anyways.
Been on and off this game for many years and I was so determined to quit before High Isle came out. The Ring got me to buy it because it meant I could do ALL overworld content with my non-meta characters. It's a slap in the face to anyone who thought they could have any casual fun in this game because sweatlords will allways be swearlords and it doesnt affect me.
Another great video. Thank you!
It would be very simple to make Oakensoul apply differently in PvE and PvP, by adding “when battle spirit is active apply minor versions of the following buffs…” as suggested by SkinnyCheeks, or by adding Aegis and Slayer (probably minor) as suggested by Deltia. Or the conditions of battle spirit could be changed.
As you say - accessibility to content (and lifting the floor) are very important for game sustainability and for wider enjoyment.
ZOS - please listen!
problem with Aegis and Slayer is that it ignores overworld content. The nerf to general combat is a big nerf and affects the Oakensoul too. so even if they only nerfed the combat, Oakensoul will still do less than it does atm, but it wouldnt feel nuked. As a Solo player I would rather have the Battle Spirit suggestion pull through and PvE would still be accessible for the target audience as it doesnt afferct other players in PvE.
Agreed. I had a a friend who can't swap bars due to disabilities. Doing fast rotations or hard content is a no go with him. Do yes this ring would help someone like him.
Like you I only play tank through content, this means arenas too. If these nerfs are finalized then I better go grab oakensoul now so I can finally complete vVH and get my perfected void bash before it’s too late.
I loved the content and really wish I could continue to play eso. Sadly with this nerf to the ring I'll be moving on to something else. Keep up the great work you do on your site!
thats beyond stupid tho
@@laxing1480 some people have disabilities or hand restrictions. It’s not stupid for wanting accessibility like other games provide.
@@rain_3686 i know no such game. But my point was leaving eso for one ring shows how op this thing is. You cant balance this ring at all because if you really want ppl with disabillitys to have a viable item to help them it has to be so op that every Pver is going to run it
I lag a lot when bar swapping so it was good for me to just stay on one bar.
I kinda agree but I do see a problem. Yes in a trial group you can do more with 2 bars but solo or 4 man you can’t. You won’t have a very good major force uptime with 1 or 2 support running a horn. I also see we now just run 4 dps with oakensoul which is what I have been doing as a tank. I run pa and war machine and able to tank pretty much every vet dungeon with my setup and hit some huge dps also.
Major/Minor Aegis and Slayer would separate PVE and PVP effectively.
I Couldnt agree more
They could have easily put major slayer on it instead of major berserk.
And didn't even do that.
Just looking at that tells me that they are not really open to any compromise with this ring.
It did its job, it sold them the chapter, time for the players to put it in their bank.
With the latest nerfs on top, accessibility of VMA or VVH will go down by a lot.
YES! Battle Spirit is something that should be added to EVERY piece of gear in the game, then add a 2nd effect to every piece of gear for when Battle Spirit is active.
EDIT: ZoS should go one step further and do the same for every skill/passive too.
the only thing zos needs to do is go hand in hand with content creators.every patch will be wayyyyy better than it is if they do their own thing because obviously they have little to know clue how to balance their own game which is sad honestly.
I think you make a really good case, especially for console players. Switching bars on console is one of the biggest barriers to higher damage, because a) it requires coordination not everyone has and b) oftentimes it simply doesn't work at all.
If im making a dungeon or trial group I can still stipulate that the ring is not allowed in my group and we can play however we want. Why take away a tool that's helping people and is to no detriment to others?
And yes, pve and pvp needs to be separated but I feel like a broken record here. A lot of people have been saying this for ages and ZOS simply doesn't want to go there. They just do not want to do it.
I can't count the times when I hit my barswap button and nothing happened.
I constantly find my self looking down to see what bar I'm on or casting the wrong thing, which is usually the case.
Pvp making pve stale through balance changes is a tale as old as time.
I'm definitely going to miss using Oakensoul with PB + Azureblight on random classes like templar, warden, and sorc. You could solo veteran dungs faster than if you queued up for a group or even with a full 4 man group because everything dies in just 1-2 rotations. Highly doubt they will bring it back but it's true, quite literally nothing even came close to the power that ring gave which is why it gives the accessibility that it does.
well i have played both with a tank pve and pvp solo !!! yes i think that the pve should be setup for pve only and pvp need to be setup for pvp with cp or non cp !! that why they keep nerfing gear setting that are from pve stuff went they are take over to pvp like must set that give a group able or solo able like the ring in this video but i also think there should be a cp tree just for pvp !!
I was able to get flawless conqueror and spirit slayer because of oakensoul. I started farming VVH to get all the weapons and I’m doing the same with VMA. I think your idea of having two versions is brilliant but I think ZoS has this God Complex where they think they know better and we’re just stupid peons. Well it will show when the patch goes live. I love this game but maybe it takes a mass exodus for them to pull their heads out of their ass. Look at Blizzard and Dragonflight expansion. It seems like Blizzard is listening. Again, I love this game, I just wish ZoS would listen more.
Nailed it! But how do they address the adverse impact to PvP?
Battle Spirit.
When a veeeeery endgame content creator pleads to have it reverted for pve, you know it should be. Even the pvp players want it reverted for pve. Most pvpers and pvers dont want their balance adjustments to shaft the other side
why can't ESO have separate balancing for PvE and PvP? well, the answer is simple - ZOS refuses to do so. but Oakensoul in PvP is outright broken. so it NEEDS to be changed/nerfed. Major Courage, Berserk, Protection, Force and Heroism (along other buffs that players that don't have Oakensoul have to apply and keep up) is just way too OP in PvP. Oakensoul is the first outright "pay to win" Mythic in ESO and that puts the game on a slippery slope. but many people have suggested changing the Courage to Slayer, Protection to Aegis and so on. that would make the ring as powerful (nearly) as the current iteration in PvE without making it OP in PvP. but since this has come from players ZOS will probably discard it, as we, the players, know nothing. or so they (ZOS) think..
Absolutely agree.
Or, like the rallying cry set, you just have certain conditions set when battle spirit is active. No one even remotely argues or insinuates that it's not OP for PvP. What people are annoyed with is the lazy fixes like this that ZOS implements often times.
If they just used a couple extra brain cells here and there they could fix items for both crows, but they typically just take a sledgehammer to things in the game.
Skills and passive are always changed because of pvp. Damage and damage reduction passives. Cp skills and so on as long as two games exist withing one the balance will always be crap
Pvpers-Waa waa that skill, item is broken. We can't kill em waaa. Zos nerf.
Zos- right away nerf skills fk pve
True
I really don’t understand why they just can’t make it only usable in PvE. And it disables in anything PvP. Because that seems where the massive complaints came from, and why it got a nerf.
It helps people only if they can afford it.
I agree and also recommend bringing back oakensoul for pve . I'm an older player and it does help me to continue playing ESO trials and vet dungeons
You want a response? Well, these are my thoughts, not a simplified opinion.
I messed around and beat Vet Vateshran with Oakensoul and no blue CP.
I did it after the CP update and was unaware that my blue CP had been reset.
I got the perfected dagger and shield. Something I never would have done without Oakensoul. And yes, I had tried before and stopped playing the game because I had no damage a few patches ago.
And honestly, with all the changes that are being made, I don't understand what they want me to do at this point. Get strong or be weak. I don't know. But i do know what other games want me to do. js.
Also, I don't have 11 other friends to just hang out with, do trials with, and discuss what's good and what's not. Not because I can't find them, but because I have my own set of friends that I have talked to and played with since the launch of Halo 3.
That's since the launch of XBOX LIVE itself.
This game seems to require me to ditch those friends to play with 11 others that are going to hate me for some reason or another.
Oakensoul prevented those hateful or resentful feelings and would've allowed me to play with randoms more often.
Even though I honestly don't want to anymore, and that's because of the game's history with players like me as well as the issue like singing up to Band and Discord or you can't play. Nobody ever seems to mention that little problem with trials and or dungeons.
Something ESO should do this themselves and not rely on third party apps to connect their player base. Because that's something Oakenseoul nor any other item they put into the game will ever fix. js.
Oakensoul did change the game for me and I felt relevant for once. Take that away and i'll just go back to my friends in a heartbeat. I won't deal with toxic people nor the hate.
I mean, at this point, with all the nerfs over the years and just everything they've done to this game. If they go through with this, I'll never install the game again like so many others. Especially with games like Solar Crown around the corner and with FF14 being so great. Something a lot of us recommend if you haven't tried it yet.
Anywho, if this game plans to keep players like me. THEN I NEED TO FEEL RELEVANT...
If not, then what am i doing with it? Playing to get frustrated???.. Signing in just to realize that i can't do damage anymore cause of some PVP video a dev watched. I mean, the nerfs have to stop cause that's all it really seems like anymore, and if that's the case then why do I play? Why play to be gated by a PVP community in a PVE community?
They need to fix this or lose out. That is all.
Yeah I have seen so many videos on this filled with comments like this.. we are many who feel PvE and PvP needs to be seperated and PvE should never be nerfed because of PvP..
I agree with most things apart from discord. I am in multiple trial guilds and also run trials. The ability to be able to talk through mechs or make callouts or corrections mid fight is priceless, in content where players doing the wrong thing can literally wipe the trial.
Similarly discord is a helpful place for putting both written mechanics and diagrams, also for organising those trials and allowing the raid lead to assign specific roles within group (portal, kite,left or right group, etc..).
We don't ever require people to speak, but the likes of a voip system makes life easier for everyone and greatly improve the chance of a clear in content where people may not be commonly running together as a group or may be learning mechanics.
@@pklemming Don't get me wrong. I don't think Discord is bad or anything.
I just thought that by now, most of these MMO companies would have their own ways of connecting their player bases or just partnering up and making it easier with direct links, sharable/universal accounts with discord and Band or their own thing that's linked in the game.
Like how Microsoft does with Google you know.
Idk I guess I thought that by now they'd have a better system to connect people to trials by now other than just lfgs.
Especially when the trial goes bad.
Because when that happens. I know I'll have to wait another day or another week once we fail. And that makes me not wanna even try anymore tbh.
To me, Trials are a demoralizing cycle that we all deal with while we press on hoping for a change still.
@@distainedrogue536 A do puh trials, but it is mostly miss and very little hit I mostly do it for plunder chests.
I would never do these in preference to my prog guild, though. Prog team versus random people is light and day. Yeah, we may take weeks to clear a hm but it is with friends and we are always learning. Prog runs are as much about the people as the win.
There is no reason they could not do an integrated voip system, but not sure I would trust them to handle it. Plus, some of my guilds are cross game, or have social chat in them too. Saw one guild actually have a movie night, which I am not sure ZoS would support :)
Anyway, you nay want to look at an additional prog to fill the gaps, or for a dungeon progression group for off nights to do hm and trifecta runs. It kind of mitigates the waiting whilst relying less on pugs.
I couldnt agree more. Im a hardcore pvper and yes, this was a pay to win mythic straight up, absolutely cracked, made you do twice the damage way easier. But I honestly believe it did great things in pve. For people with disabilities ofc is amazing but even for casual players it allowed them to do harder content. The solution is simple as you stated it here. 2 different tooltips for pve and pvp. Its not hard zos come on.
you can buy it in the crown store?
not often I read a PvP'er agree to this, but yes, this is exactly it.
@@Sir_Moth No you cannot. Not sure why he even called it a pay-to-win in the first place.
@@linaleahgarcia1516 Becoz it's behind paid dlc ? and not even one. It's not something what you can get for free.
@@Sir_Moth Nah, its even worse than crown store items, if it was at least in the crown store you would be able to buy it with gold from other players but you need real money to buy the expansion. You pay, you get an insane advantage for pvp. Thats pay 2 win, easy and simple.
agree 100 - there are plenty players that are handicapped one way or another where the ring really is a breath of fresh air for whatever reasons - there is also it seems an element that does not want to ring as they feel they are unfairly affected by it - so ???? - maybe it can be made to work in PVE and not PvP or in this specific scenario but not that scenario - what I can say without prejudice to anyone is that this whole thing is tiresome and not good for all aspects of the game for many of us as the enjoyment and thrill is being lost somewhere in the mix.
My buddy has been playing with me recently, he loves oakensoul. He’s older, and it’s harder for him to barswap and keep up a million buffs. I can tell zos now, if they neuter oakensoul, he’ll likely put the game down again.
It’s unfortunate, but many people hate having their builds sliced up for the sake of pvp, when they don’t even play pvp.
I have absolutely zero faith in eso’s combat balance team for the nerf. That they would nerf oakensoul in the patch they lie is about making the game more accessible and reducing the gap… bs. They can add major+minor aegis and slayer to fix it: nope, just nerf. Bye eso.
I totally agree with you i think oaken should be separated from pve and pvp
I think for some reason deves can't understand pve and pvp have different balancing issues and ypu can't balance the 2 together they need to separate
i have a question for u pvers,
the major complaint in pvp community about oken was that it is like using, kinras 5th piece bonus, saxheel, olorime, essence thief, and heroism. which far outwieghs the back bar and 5 skills lost, so i dont see how it was not OP in pve as well?
like a 1 bar build should have clear weaknesses as to hard content should be hard for every one, thats what makes it hard and fun. if u use a mythic with bonuses equal to 5 sets, it defeats the whole purpose of hard/vet content ?
also as a side note, my biggest issue with oken was it gives u a head start in pvp, eg a 2 bar build wastes global cooldowns rebuffing, and oken players just go ham, so its a lot more pressure.
i want your point of view :)
I saw videos of a few youtubers who did parses with traditional build and would get like 130k dps. Then use that same build with Oakensoul and average 40k less dps. The highest damage build I ever saw for Oakensoul was 104k. At the end of the day, you only have 5 skills and an Ultimate with Oakensoul so even with all the buffs it will never do as much damage as a 2 bar build. What it does do, it lets less experienced players do more damage than they are used to but also allows them to survive harder hits.
Are you listening ZOS??????
Don't make me cancel all 4 of my accounts because you can't listen.
Some people just don't find joy in flailing fingers cycling through a rat's nest of skills and calling that "playing". You can do it, and do it well, but you may not like it. It's really kind of stupid. But in the end, it's just a greedy company doing the old bait and switch.
If you're not in a group you should get all the major buffs, if you're in a group you get the minor buffs.
I hella agree with this!! It NEEDS to be separated from PVP. I'm personally a casual player who DOES NOT like PVP. I pay the monthly subscription in the game, but AS SOON as this nerf hits...that's is, I'm out.. I found the ring to be VERY fun, and actually made me want to play the game more often.
I need to revert most of the changes
About oakensoul i honestly dont really mind
If the intent behind oakensoul was accessibility, it wouldnt have been pay gated and locked behind level 7 scrying. Why are we ok with this? Accessibility should never be pay gated. This was obviously to get people to buy a dlc to unlock easy mode
zos to me = blizzard. same path.. same shitty attitude towards players....eso goes up on the shelf with wow.. was fun.. not anymore
it's a p2w item. simple as that
Idc either way I'm a ayer that doesn't want any of these mythical to exist period all I do know is run okensoul or if I'm in group I run the kilt shit is boring and dumb as fuck they create shit that is so overdone then take it away this is why the game is going downhill stop doing such drastic bullshit in a year time give time for your changes from last patch to even kick in and see how the game is going then add some more smaller ones and so on and so on not all content is for everyone simple as tht not everyone should be doing vet dlc trials there are barriers it's just how life is if you don't wanna improve as a player you aren't going to pass that barrier
and yes i have 66% of the game done
Problem is if they make different versions of it for PVE/PVP, that opens up a precedent for all other sets in game to follow suit. I doubt the devs would give ideas like this to players
What do you mean? They already do that with certain sets and items by making them do different things while the pvp "buff" is active.
Also even if it did... what would be the problem if they did?
I think making different versions for pve/PvP is a great idea. I’ve been advocating for years that they need to use battle spirit more to separate how skills and sets function between PvP and pve. What’s balanced for pve, isn’t always balanced for PvP, and vice versa. What often happens is that something is over or under performing in pve or PvP. It gets adjusted and negatively affects the other. This doesn’t promote and healthy game community, and continues to drive a wedge. between the PvP and pve communities. We already have set that functions only while ballet spirit is active, rallying cry. I think more sets and skills that follow like this would be better for game on a whole.
Guys they literally already do lol. You get a "buff" while in pvp called Battle Spirit and it already causes other sets and items to be weaker in pvp while that buff is active.
@@Bumbum_Inspector there is battle spirit. The problem is that they adjust skills and sets themselves rather than adjusting it through battlespirit, and often times they over nerf/buff. So let’s say a set is overperforming in PvP, like oakensoul. Instead of adjusting it through battle spirit so that the changes only affects PvP, they adjust the the set itself causing a nerf on the pve side which wasn’t needed. If they would do all the adjustments through battlespirit, there’d be better balance, and a healthier and happy community.
If ur using oaken ring for pve and think ur gunna do vet trials hitting high dps ur dead wrong 😂its for ppl who wanna do solo arenas with heavy attack builds or ppl who quest, if u wanna do high dps and cant do a rotation bc of the high button smash its called a dot rotation
L take
Next time try formulating a rational thought, then communicate it by typing a complete sentence using words and stuff!
I use Oakensoul on almost every character I play now in PvP..... I hate it. You either have to join the darkside or get steamrolled right now.
But I think its great for PvE. Amazing even. I would prefer a nerf that just makes it relatively useless in BGs at least, the same way Ring of the PO is useless in BGs.
No pvp and no leader boards.... Solved.
cant believe people actually defend oak. it should have never been added to the game, such a crutch item for being bad at the game
Been playing eso since 2017, video games in general since the early 1970s. I am pretty good at most that I have tried, including eso. But I now live in Malaysia, and my ping is around 400 most of the time. Oakensoul has been fantastic in helping me not die during barswap, and simplifying the number of APM that my PC and the servers need to transact, which therefore improves my performance and interactability. I still have 200-400 ping at best, I will still be last through that dungeon door even if i was first to go through, i will never beat you to a treasure chest or node, but Oakensoul has allowed my general level of performance to go up simply because the server has %50 less calculations to work through per second because I am only using one bar .
Simply activating Battle Spirit would solve %100 of the angst surrounding this wonderful mythic.
@@adammenhennett good point, the reason i hate it so much is because pvp. a good player using one bar should never ever bet a good player using two. oaken is so overtuned. but i see now how it helps certain pve players
I disagree, the nerf was needed I think because the point of the mythic wasn’t to boost casual players to endgame levels.. casual players will still be casual players they won’t be score pushing and in coordinated raids.. so they just needed something to boost them up a little bit to be a better casual player.. they don’t need something broken that can be abused by veteran players in PvP and PvE. Just my thoughts I think the mythic is still incredibly good and they will get a lot of good use out of it still.