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  • How Guncotton/Nitrocellulose is made and what does. From BBC.

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  • @jasonwright8546
    @jasonwright8546 6 років тому +114

    Nitrate levels in the lab cotton were too low, as there was a great deal of residue left behind. Fully "nitrated" guncotton leaves almost no residue and a slight bit of moisture. It practically vaporizes.

    • @SpiraSpiraSpira
      @SpiraSpiraSpira 4 роки тому +8

      Jason Wright This is true.

    • @zahariburgess3660
      @zahariburgess3660 3 роки тому

      imagine fully nitrated cotton in the rock

    • @csme07
      @csme07 3 роки тому +1

      You couldn’t even see it cause the camera would get shattered

    • @MrRedeyedJedi
      @MrRedeyedJedi 3 роки тому +2

      I mean her sample was still very good. She could have left it for another hour in the solution for better efficiency

    • @Si74l0rd
      @Si74l0rd 3 роки тому +3

      @@MrRedeyedJedi She should have left it for a fair bit longer. If you're doing it with low grade acids it wants to soak and nitrate for 24 hours. I'm not sure how the concentration would change things, I'm fairly sure it's the temperature and soaking time that are the most critical factors though, as I've seen demonstrations of household chemical sourced guncotton which deflagrated with almost zero residue. A film of ash and condensation being all that was left. Hers was pretty inefficient and left a lot of dirty solid residue. C- could do better!

  • @1evilace1
    @1evilace1 5 років тому +20

    So they made guncotton in a lab and it was shit compared to backyard cook ups.

    • @vtogvblog
      @vtogvblog 2 роки тому +3

      It does take a while to fully complete the process. So they probably just went let’s do a quick batch for the general idea and we’ll leave it there.

    • @tombergins8215
      @tombergins8215 3 місяці тому +1

      Shows you the level of our WOKE education system today.
      Disappointing would be an understatement

    • @elanti-furrodelrancho3499
      @elanti-furrodelrancho3499 2 місяці тому

      I make my stuff in pickle jars with random saltpeter and sulphuric acid and it's 100x better

  • @reloadnorth7722
    @reloadnorth7722 11 місяців тому +2

    Now I know how to get rid of destructive beavers. I had a meter of water in my garage and lost thousands of $$$ of air tools and welders, and the insurance wouldn't cover any of it.

  • @ARIES9327
    @ARIES9327 5 років тому +6

    The material should be nitrated at least 4 hours given the concentration of acids

    • @yanosrizkoneynoy7502
      @yanosrizkoneynoy7502 4 роки тому

      ARIES9327 5 hours 9%, 8 hours 11%, 24 hours 12,5 % with nitric and acetic acid 30hours 14% but instable NC

  • @chapiit08
    @chapiit08 4 роки тому +8

    Gun cotton has way more brisance than black powder which accounts for it's ability to split the rock into many pieces rather than venting much of it's energy shooting up through the drill hole. In spite of it's limitations black powder remained in use for many years after the invention of guncotton and even dynamite, mainly to split large logs and to dislodge tree stumps.

  • @GoatBarn
    @GoatBarn 9 років тому +14

    5:37 - Peregrine Falcon vocalization in the background...

  • @ian-op5fv
    @ian-op5fv 9 років тому +18

    The gunpowder would have worked a lot better if they tamped it down and plugged the hole.

    • @theygowhootnnn5807
      @theygowhootnnn5807 8 років тому +9

      so would the guncotton this was an equal demonstration

    • @AZURA888
      @AZURA888 8 років тому +8

      +TheyGoWhootnnn 30grs of gunpowder against 5grms of guncotton is not an equal demostration.

    • @shadowsniper3342
      @shadowsniper3342 5 років тому +7

      @@AZURA888 still shows how much more powerful guncotton is to gunpowder

    • @fedai1196
      @fedai1196 4 роки тому +8

      Nitrocellulose cant be compared to black powder as nitrocellulose is considered as high explosive and can go to deflagration to detonation in relevant conditions, while black powder is still low explosive , it only deflagrates no matter what.

    • @zahariburgess3660
      @zahariburgess3660 3 роки тому +2

      @@fedai1196 even though that guncotton was like 5% nitrated so its still low if it was 20% it would blast rock shrapnel everywhere

  • @jaydenritchie6351
    @jaydenritchie6351 3 роки тому +3

    Have a bath of aqueous baking soda if you need a neutralizer

  • @wessonsmithjr.6257
    @wessonsmithjr.6257 7 років тому +31

    FYI that is NOT Guncotton. At best she made Pyroxylin (Nitrogen content of between 8.0 - 12.3%). Way too much ash left over to be anything remotely close to guncotton, which by definition has a nitrogen content of at least 13.35%.

    • @hoodiefoodie9393
      @hoodiefoodie9393 7 років тому

      it is, but it didnt fully nitrate. there is several videos of it showing thats actually happening

    • @wessonsmithjr.6257
      @wessonsmithjr.6257 6 років тому +5

      So, if it didn't fully nitrate then, it's not guncotton. Pyroxylin is nitrocellulose with less the fully nitrated cotton. Gun cotton is nitrocellulose with fully nitrated cotton.

    • @schelsullivan
      @schelsullivan 5 років тому +1

      Yes you can tell by all the unburned carbon that this was very weakly nitrated

    • @Mrjmaxted0291
      @Mrjmaxted0291 5 років тому

      @@wessonsmithjr.6257 What was it about her method that resulted only in a partial nitration? Did the colder temperature slow down the reaction of the concentrated nitric acid? Would it have been a different story had she simply allowed the cotton wool to soak for longer?

    • @wessonsmithjr.6257
      @wessonsmithjr.6257 5 років тому +2

      @@Mrjmaxted0291 Longer nitration. At least twice as long as she did. On a side note, I haven't messed with gun cotton ever since I started messing with Tetrazoles, Erythritol Tetranitrate, Nickel Hydrazine Nitrate, etc. Wayyyy more fun to play with.:)

  • @jerrystrader754
    @jerrystrader754 7 років тому +13

    How the hell did the cat that invented this stuff ever keep the target temp. below 20 degrees in 1846? And how the hell did he know to? CRAZY

    • @jdhudson2211
      @jdhudson2211 5 років тому +3

      Unless you lived in a cold region, ice was not easily accessible

    • @rodrigodiaz7167
      @rodrigodiaz7167 5 років тому +1

      @@jdhudson2211 yeah but 99% scientists then lived in snow regions like france, england, germany, etc.

    • @rodrigodiaz7167
      @rodrigodiaz7167 5 років тому +1

      @@jdhudson2211in fact nitrocellulose was created in paris by henri braconnot. They probably had ice... not that it is really that necesary for making nitrocellulose though.

    • @fictional25m
      @fictional25m 5 років тому +2

      ice really isnt required you could use water in a bigger tub or flow cool water though a tub the water/ice combo just is easier to cool in small containment the reason to cool is to slow down the reaction think of it as brakes on a truck exothermic reactions can become violent with boiling frothing churning action think mentos diet coke but with hot boiling acid spewing out like a volcano makes a potentially harmful mess slowing down the reaction alows the chemist to brake/control the speed

    • @ayonbiswas4186
      @ayonbiswas4186 4 роки тому +4

      Sprinkle table salt on ice and you can reach down to minus 15-20 degree c.

  • @poppabear9279
    @poppabear9279 8 років тому +20

    I need a bunch of this. I want to make a "Special" T-Shirt for my ex wife.

    • @MrFujinko
      @MrFujinko 7 років тому

      kek

    • @rodneyjohnson7958
      @rodneyjohnson7958 5 років тому

      You don't really want to kill your ex wife to you? Believe me killing her would not be worth it

    • @bloodvue
      @bloodvue 4 роки тому +1

      Lot of work to make a special shirt

    • @commentingisawasteoftime7195
      @commentingisawasteoftime7195 3 роки тому

      Did you bliw yourself up being petty yet?

  • @jimfackler1683
    @jimfackler1683 8 років тому +9

    Large falcon [Peregrine?] calling in background @ 5:37

    • @balakbalac7878
      @balakbalac7878 8 років тому

      +Jim Fackler yes that's right peregrine i guess

  • @legolunatic1337
    @legolunatic1337 5 років тому +6

    I've watched so many videos and made so many batches of gun-cotton the fact that there was so much carbon left over that chemists does not know how to make gun cotton to save her life she needs to go back to school

    • @edwardtidwell2821
      @edwardtidwell2821 2 роки тому

      Yeah, the cotton didn't turn that yellowish color that fully nitrated guncotton should have. Plus did you notice how she completely avoided answering the question of what would happen if the temperature of the reaction went above 17 degrees? Shit chemistry!

    • @tombergins8215
      @tombergins8215 3 місяці тому

      She's a product of our WOKE schools.
      And this is the result
      It will only get worse

  • @Duraznito9712
    @Duraznito9712 4 роки тому +7

    Could it be compressed to increase its explosive power? Isn't there any risk of ignition or explotion in it?

    • @cheskotokarev
      @cheskotokarev 2 роки тому +11

      Ooo
      I know this comment is two years old, but I just really want an excuse to share my firearm related nerdery
      Yes, you could compress nitro cellulose to make it more powerful! that's actually one of its biggest advantages over black powder. when you compress black powder it'll eventually get to a point where it wont really produce any more gas pressure or kinetic energy, but you could theoretically compress nitrocellulose to the point where trying to actually use it would be, for all intents and purposes, suicide.
      And to answer your second question, compressing nitro cellulose or putting it under high pressure isnt actually all that dangerous, nitro cellulose isnt impact sensitive, it needs a certain level of heat and energy, that's why metallic cartridges need primers to function

    • @kovona
      @kovona 6 місяців тому +1

      ​@@cheskotokarev Guncotton can be impact or shock sensitive if the nitrification level is high enough. This was an issue when highly nitrifed guncotton was used as bursting charge in naval shells as the gun cotton will often detonate before the shell penetrated through the armour of targeted ships. They got around this issue by wetting the guncotton with water to reduce its sensitivity.

    • @cheskotokarev
      @cheskotokarev 6 місяців тому

      @@kovona
      Oh, I didn't know about that! My knowledge is pretty limited to small arms, and at that scale I believe it would be incredibly difficult to put enough kinetic energy into the powder itself to make it go off, but that is really quite interesting regardless!

  • @benman314
    @benman314 7 років тому +6

    What show did this originally come from? I'd like to watch the whole thing.

  • @will01r
    @will01r 11 років тому +6

    Was that done by a blasting cap or just compaction?

    • @e-racer4673
      @e-racer4673 3 роки тому +2

      Fuse, blasting cap, or just a battery and steel wool. Anything that will make a spark. You can also impact it with a hammer but I just don’t think I would want to be that close to it.

  • @nemotyrannus2
    @nemotyrannus2 Рік тому +1

    Jules Verne sent us to the moon thanks to guncotton , in 1865

  • @tdimentional2048
    @tdimentional2048 10 місяців тому

    Gun powder, charcoal-sulfer-potasium nitrate, and gun cotton are not explosives but are, in fact, propellants. Confined they to exhibit explosive results due to confining the expanding gasses. Real explosives propagate at much higher speeds where touching them off even unconfined explode. One would not want to do to an explosive what was shown in this video. The result would be an explosion not just rapid burning of black powder or nitrated cotton.

    • @jb-xc4oh
      @jb-xc4oh 6 місяців тому +1

      Wrong, compressed guncotton is a high explosive and it detonates. They used 1000 pound charges of it in sea mines.

  • @christopherpottie8474
    @christopherpottie8474 8 років тому +5

    is it possible for a center fired gun cartridge to be loaded with gun cotton and ignited by a modern primer?

    • @MrVolodus
      @MrVolodus 8 років тому +4

      Sure, nitrocelulose is actually modern gunpowder. There are some additives to control burn, but you can try.
      Just be super carefull, it may burn much faster and blow up yout gun.

    • @chapiit08
      @chapiit08 7 років тому +4

      You must find the way to granulate it, and then coat it with carbon (charcoal) dust.

    • @wessonsmithjr.6257
      @wessonsmithjr.6257 7 років тому +2

      Just buy Microcrystalline Cellulose ( www.ebay.com/itm/322254123985?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT ) and then nitrate it.

    • @wessonsmithjr.6257
      @wessonsmithjr.6257 7 років тому +8

      "Wet nitrocellulose is very volatile " No it isn't. Have you ever tried to ignite wetted nitrocellulose? You can't. It's how nitrocellulose is transported in the US for safety. They wet it.

    • @victoriazero8869
      @victoriazero8869 3 роки тому

      @@wessonsmithjr.6257 sorry for late reply, but 'wet cellulose' is secured with near-pure alcohol, as water destabilize the molecule.

  • @StandFastable
    @StandFastable 5 років тому +1

    What show is this? Its rather interesting.

  • @suckinDiesel44
    @suckinDiesel44 7 років тому +4

    I wonder did they have to use a blasting cap to set off the guncotton, I didn't know it detonates by itself

    • @ridintilldeath9484
      @ridintilldeath9484 5 років тому

      H.E Master could it detonate without a blasting cap by building up enough preassure just by burning to detonate it

    • @ridintilldeath9484
      @ridintilldeath9484 5 років тому +1

      Building up enough preassure by confining it is what I meant to say

    • @ProfessionalNeet222
      @ProfessionalNeet222 5 років тому

      @@ridintilldeath9484 in pretty sure it can but u would have to use enough guncotton and use a thick enough body to hold the pressure

  • @okaro6595
    @okaro6595 11 місяців тому

    Actually gunpowder burns faster. The differences are far more complex.

  • @balakbalac7878
    @balakbalac7878 8 років тому +2

    in 5:37 there's a falcon voice in background on the video and i guess it's peregrine lol

  • @thierrygauvin4059
    @thierrygauvin4059 Рік тому

    détonation inversion des vitesse chimique et thermique dans les chaine pyrotechnique; comme dans les diesel?

  • @TomMathesonColes
    @TomMathesonColes 2 роки тому

    they didn't think to burn that in the fume hoods 2 meters away from them?

  • @Si74l0rd
    @Si74l0rd 3 роки тому +4

    The difference is the brissance. That's what makes it so effective for mining operations versus black powder charges. It's probably the only high explosive that would look totally innocuous on a ladies dressing table lol.
    I can't believe they let him stand that close, with no shield though! That's pretty damn close, and pretty damn stupid! Especially when you know full well that there's the potential for supersonic shards of rock to be filling the air. Even with that relatively low quality, partially nitrogenated guncotton, it's still going to detonate. If I was their insurance company I'd be having blue fits over that footage lol.

    • @okaro6595
      @okaro6595 11 місяців тому

      You cannot detonate it by burning.

  • @hvrtguys
    @hvrtguys Рік тому

    It was discovered by accident. The guy used some cotton rags to clean up an acid spill. He nearly burned down his lab.

  • @footballartisan8990
    @footballartisan8990 3 роки тому

    The one i made left no residue at all and was magic for my friends..

    • @jaydenritchie6351
      @jaydenritchie6351 3 роки тому

      Fully nitrated cotton either you left it long enough or strong enough acids

  • @Touraspie
    @Touraspie 12 років тому +2

    What? They had some pre-made. Of course it took longer than they showed in the video; it takes all damned day.

  • @muha0644
    @muha0644 3 роки тому

    Actually it doesn't detonate. The explosion is not a detonation, but rather a deflagration. Look it up on wikipedia for more info.
    Basically only high explosives (C4, etc...) detonate, since the shock-wave is faster than the speed of sound in the material. Gunpowder deflagrates, since the shock-wave moves slower than the speed of sound in the gas produced.

    • @robertlombardo8437
      @robertlombardo8437 3 роки тому

      @Scout
      How confined do you mean? Like packed into a thimble basically?

    • @okaro6595
      @okaro6595 11 місяців тому

      Nitrocellulose has a detonation velocity 7300 m/s, higher than on TNT.

    • @muha0644
      @muha0644 11 місяців тому

      @@okaro6595 ok, now look up the speed of sound in nitrocellulose. The wave of the detonation travels slower than it.

    • @jb-xc4oh
      @jb-xc4oh 6 місяців тому

      Compressed guncotton detonates as it is a high explosive.

  • @williamhill2221
    @williamhill2221 4 роки тому

    These rocks can be steelmaking.

  • @JaredHempfield
    @JaredHempfield 3 роки тому

    Has anyone attempted this with degummed hemp?

  • @MrRedeyedJedi
    @MrRedeyedJedi 3 роки тому

    She used the sulphuric acid and kno3 method, not nitric acid and sulphuric acid combined.

    • @drgrlitz
      @drgrlitz 3 роки тому

      No, she didn't. She used HNO3.

    • @MrRedeyedJedi
      @MrRedeyedJedi 3 роки тому

      @@drgrlitz look it up. To make the cotton, potassium nitrate is combined with sulphuric to create nitric acid. Or if obtainable, nitric acid it's self is used.

    • @MrRedeyedJedi
      @MrRedeyedJedi 3 роки тому

      @@drgrlitz in this it said she combined sulphuric with nitric.

    • @drgrlitz
      @drgrlitz 3 роки тому

      @@MrRedeyedJedi: You're contradicting yourself. She's using HNO3, & that's what she said she's doing.

  • @timh.2137
    @timh.2137 10 місяців тому

    What kind of jerk doesn't play the whole clip and also cut off right in the middle of a sentence?

  • @centpushups
    @centpushups 5 років тому

    Did you know thomas edison tried to make a helicopter powered by guncotton.

    • @chrisk1944
      @chrisk1944 4 роки тому +3

      Thomas Edison did little more than hire people to invent, market furiously, lobby insanely, and self-aggrandize.

  • @goodskullkid
    @goodskullkid 11 років тому +2

    i thought nitrocellulose was for transferring proteins...

  • @augustinasz8830
    @augustinasz8830 10 років тому +1

    What show is this?

    • @stormshadow_6477
      @stormshadow_6477 10 років тому +1

      Its a Docu: Explosions - How we shook the World ; if I remember correctly^^

  • @potatooverload4487
    @potatooverload4487 6 років тому +3

    thats not gunpowder its black powder!

    • @okaro6595
      @okaro6595 11 місяців тому

      Gunpowder is black powder. They just are two names for the same thing. "Gunpowder" is the original, "black powder" was coined after the smokeless powder was created.

  • @DeathGhost809
    @DeathGhost809 10 років тому +6

    woooowwwww, so i can really compress it too? cool

    • @alockworkorange7296
      @alockworkorange7296 3 роки тому +5

      They skiped the next step where they plasticize it with acetone and press thru a spaghetti like press that use 3 tons to extrude it to the shape u see smokeless powder in today

    • @jaydenritchie6351
      @jaydenritchie6351 3 роки тому

      Yes

  • @asbahahameed6325
    @asbahahameed6325 4 роки тому

    Can we use this in a catrig

    • @elburropeligroso4689
      @elburropeligroso4689 3 роки тому +1

      I assume you mean a cartridge? If so, yes. Single base smokeless powders are compromised of nitrocellulose, double base powder use nitrocellulose and nitroglycerin, and triple base powders use nitrocellulose/ nitroglycerin/ and nitroguanadine.
      Now for use as a propellant, there are different chemicals used to control burn rate, act as stabilizers, etc. But nitrocellulose is the primary ingredient.

  • @rajeeshrajeeshraji2180
    @rajeeshrajeeshraji2180 3 роки тому +1

    I completed 1k likes I need hearts

  • @drrottenstien7338
    @drrottenstien7338 2 роки тому

    Put sum TNT in one of those rocks

    • @okaro6595
      @okaro6595 11 місяців тому

      TNT is slower than nitrocellulose: 6900 m/s vs. 7300 m/s.

  • @itankwot21041972
    @itankwot21041972 11 років тому +1

    Likely bostons murders doesnt see that vid

  • @khosroansary9493
    @khosroansary9493 5 років тому

    Hi can i do not use sulfuric acid for make gun cotton?

    • @iPadtutorial99ROBLOX
      @iPadtutorial99ROBLOX 5 років тому +3

      well considering from your comment that you have nitric acid
      sulfuric shouldn't be a problem, as it's used to make nitric.

    • @user-qe8nv9mx3k
      @user-qe8nv9mx3k 5 років тому +1

      Shut up stupid question

    • @zahariburgess3660
      @zahariburgess3660 3 роки тому

      yes if you use conc nitric acid idk how nitrated it would be

  • @brandonsihvonen8555
    @brandonsihvonen8555 5 років тому +1

    The gun powder was it smokeless powder?

    • @audunspachmo9673
      @audunspachmo9673 2 роки тому

      Smokeless powder was invented after gun cotton so probably not. It's black powder.

  • @simonphoenix3789
    @simonphoenix3789 10 місяців тому

    somehow I don't buy that this wasn't staged.

  • @revbobmartin
    @revbobmartin 3 роки тому

    I wonder what kind of detonation guncotton mixed with Vaseline type of petroleum gel?

    • @robinofloxley9192
      @robinofloxley9192 3 роки тому

      You’re on the right track. If you experiment with that train of thought long enough, you end up with Cordite. Which is the same explosive that Britain’s used in its guns in WW1 and WW2

    • @jb-xc4oh
      @jb-xc4oh 6 місяців тому

      Vaseline was used in the manufacture of Cordite which was used as a propellant for various cartridges and guns. The vaseline byproducts would coat the bore of the rifle or cannon to prevent erosion and rust since Cordite produced very high temperatures.

  • @bombcode9615
    @bombcode9615 5 років тому +1

    Five gram gun cotton ???

    • @mareksvrcina5279
      @mareksvrcina5279 5 років тому

      Maybe someone else actually packed the 5g of gun cotton into the hole, because this definitely doesn’t seem to 5 grams. it was more like quarter of a gram to half a gram

  • @hitoshisawa8479
    @hitoshisawa8479 3 роки тому

    so its cordite

    • @robertlombardo8437
      @robertlombardo8437 3 роки тому

      Mmm. Sort of one step behind, I *think...*

    • @okaro6595
      @okaro6595 11 місяців тому

      Cordite is or was a mixture of nitrocellulose and nitroglycerin with some petroleum jelly.

  • @ndschepp
    @ndschepp 10 років тому

    what was the song at 4:50 ?

    • @Jv6932
      @Jv6932 9 років тому

      darude-sandstorm

    • @MrLittlelawyer
      @MrLittlelawyer 9 років тому

      João Vitor After today, that is reeaalllyy worn out. (its April fools day, so youtube did stuff)

  • @superman200021
    @superman200021 12 років тому

    worst guncotten I have ever seen try nitrating it longer I feel like they should know how to make the best

  • @lenwenzel7440
    @lenwenzel7440 2 роки тому

    Poorly made guncotton. The residue should only be a bit of powder, or dust.

  • @richystar2001
    @richystar2001 5 років тому +1

    The Halifax disaster was created with a cargo ship full of Gun cotton that leveled the city's Harbor.

    • @shadowsniper3342
      @shadowsniper3342 5 років тому

      People in NB could hear the blast

    • @shaun1293
      @shaun1293 Рік тому +1

      Picric acid*. There was very little guncotton onboard.

    • @jb-xc4oh
      @jb-xc4oh 6 місяців тому

      Picric Acid..!!

  • @308dad8
    @308dad8 2 роки тому

    Scientists don’t do as good of a job as concerned citizens

  • @gauravjoshi5570
    @gauravjoshi5570 11 місяців тому

    Reason to dislike is , this is a stolen video and not credited to the right belonging..
    As usual, UK is a stealer..

  • @chrisk1944
    @chrisk1944 4 роки тому

    Is it just me, or is Jackie smokin' hot? Beautiful, and intelligent? Where do I sign? Can you imagine a woman you'd never get tired of looking at, and never get tired of listening to?

  • @fuckthegestapo2441
    @fuckthegestapo2441 2 роки тому

    That is poorly made