Affordable Insulation - Alpkit Whisper Insulated Sleeping Pad
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Great review, I put my sleeping pad inside a sleeping bag liner, this makes it warmer and quieter. I then use the sleeping bag as a quilt. Not for everyone but works for me. 😊
I have the Whisper, I got from Alpkit when it was on sale for €63.
As my camps are mostly in the mild Alicante mountain climate, it's perfect for my needs and at that price I think I picked up a bargain.
It also fits into the Alpkit Hunka Bivvy helping make an effective and a very affordable sleep system.
I'm surprised this was the first review of it on UA-cam, although with your audience I hope it gains a few sales as it's definitely a quality product.
Gareth, I'm in the Alicante province. Where did you buy it please.
Many thanks, I'll take a look.
Nice one Paul. Good review. For me, durability is a key factor. Manufacturers endeavour to make their pads as light a possible, but the compromise usually means the material is very susceptible to being punctured. Once that happens the pad is next to useless after a repair, and the user ends up on the ground freezing their bits off at 3. o'clock in the morning. Whoever can find that sweet spot between light weight and robustness will get my money every time. Alpkit, in my experience, are very good at providing value for money 'quality' kit.
Damn you didn't skip blowing it up. I really appreciate the review.
Cheers for that Paul, had been looking at upgrading my mat before Xmas as I had been using UL80 and hadn’t seen any reviews of this on UA-cam. Bought a Vango Trek 3 air mat to use with the Alpkit EZ Sleeper foam mat which saw me through winter, it’s definitely one of the things I’ve put off forking out on.
Good width and decent for those on a budget. Alpkit do have good customer service if required.
Thanks for the review. I think this would appeal to those on a budget who mainly wild camp in very mild weather. R 2.5 and 720 grams. The positives would be width and price for sure. Cons are R value and weight.
Heavy for such a low R value. It looks like it packs to the same size as my Exped downmat but is 200 gms heavier and not as insulated. Then again it is wider so that would count for the extra weight.
As a budget pad for warmer nights it is ok but it is also noisier then the downmat which is very quiet. Pity they discontinued them.
Bought two, for my two kids. (8/11) one for wild camping. Car camping,
No brainer at the price of a thermarest,
Not super light, but the material is tougher.
25 in wide.
£67 in the sale. Happy days
Thats the kind of pad I've been looking for!
Two of my tents are narrow at the footend, making it not suited for two regular square pads in the foot end.
So I need two pads that are narrow in the foot end and wider up top.
Mummy shaped.
I have two pads like that already, but they a as narrow as the thermarest and not good below 5 degr. C.
The Whisper being mummy shaped and going down to 0 degr. C makes quite a difference!
I would love to see you do a family/campsite load out. Pleeaasse Paul 🤞🏼
Hi Paul you're still using breath to inflate. How about doing a review on the tiny rechargeable inflators that you can buy. I bought one off Amazon and it was great. It inflated my pad in seconds and deflated it too, battery life was amazing ,a small and lightweight bit of kit. have a bash!
He says in this very video that he’s using the flextail mini pump.
I've just pulled the trigger on one myself Paul 😊
Just hope they've underrated the R value.
I was looking at getting a new/upgraded pad. Well timed vid.
Greetings from NorCal. Don’t see much Alpkit stuff here in the states but seems like a good deal. I have an X-Therm which I like except it is noisy and sounds like I’m rolling around on potato chips, I guess you guys call them crisps.
The decathlon insulated pad is just as wide, has a 3.3 r value and is cheaper, also the bag it comes in acts as an inflation bag, decathlon itself also has a great warranties when it comes to their hiking gear!
Alpkit products can be more expensive because of their climate commitments. They are a small British company who try to use recycled materials whereas Decathlon is a huge international company who don't use as many recycled materials.
@@dansurf828 British Chinese made Alpkit some of the stuff is generic and branded. My GF got the the Decathlon one mentioned above and its an excellent pad for the money, Decathlon try to make things with some environmental considerations
Did you use this on an actual camp. If so, how did it perform. After the initial hype there does not be many current reviews
Would 2x Numo @ 1.7R = 3.4R? I think they're meant to be additive? It's 350g which doubled up would be 700g, a bit lighter than the Whisper at 720g. Option of using one or the other or sharing, though downside is the faff of 2 pads on top of each other.
I am mainly interested for a summer / hot climate pad , larger size and comfort are my main priorities, then weight, price last. Is there a pad you would suggest?
Cheers paul. Great review
alpkit always been decent gear got i dont know pads from them since when they first started and bunch other kit not top range gear but still good stuff in my opinion
im replying to myself first alpkit pad i had iv still got 20 years later and its took some abuse and still going strong been slashed buy friend i loaned it too and he put it on top broken bottle buy side Ullswater i said to him check ground first in case of idiots he didn't listen thought id never be able fix that but the included patches fixed it was amazed the guy was friend offline he had never left London met up with him in penrith loaned him everything good memory's 2 weeks cycle touring the lakes he was scared of the sheep and the wildlife was pretty funny
Why do you use so many spaces inbetween words?
whats the weight difference Paul?
Good review 👍
Please show the test R value report, ok? If not, it is basically false advertising.
Great content!
Hi there, it seems a well made pad, but at 720g it is not considered as an ultralight one. Thanks for sharing this video anyway.
It is a bit heavier than many insulated mats, however I didn't mind that as the wider shoulder area really makes a difference.
It's wider than standard and is budget friendly. Of course it's going to be heavier than an ultralight pad!
Who would have thought someone would be trying to justify the price of a lilo these days lol you gotta be kidding
Only 2.5r, I wouldn't recommend that outside of summer, you'd be better off with a silver car windscreen cover
DOOD!!!!!!!!
£68
720gr for R value 2.5 ... That's just rubbish.
The Whisper has 0 reviews
They are on this page alpkit.com/products/whisper-insulated-camping-mat
It should have as I posted a review on the Alpkit site a few weeks ago.
that's strange I posted a review last year
Good to see another British company joining in on the insulated sleep pad malarkey
Looks like a great pad. I have a very similar design one, Ecotek Hybern8. I really recommend it if you are a smaller person, cheaper lighter and Rvalue of 4.5, otherwise I'd go with this Alpkit. Love the videos Paul, keep it up
That's a good initial review Paul. I'm in need of a 2nd pad, so I will look forward to a review when you've used it overnight. Cheers.
Someone been to Hathersage
Looks really good, initially I saw the pack size and got worried but seeing the comparison between the Alpkit and the Thermarest it really shows how much wider the Alpkit is!
I have got one of these had it bikepacking a few weeks ago in 2 degrees was fine. Also had it in the hammock last week that got down to about 4 degrees no problems it slips about a bit that’s only because of the single layer hammock.
So been used for 4 nights I recommend.
I was in Ellis Brigham looking at pads this afternoon.....I nearly shit a brick when I saw the prices.... especially the large X-therm.....£308!!!!!!!😮
😂
I paid £205 for my large xtherm. A 50% increase is crazy.
@@chrishamilton2527 it's mad isn't it! Ellis Brigham has always been expensive....but...
Interesting comparison, if a bit asymmetrical.
I’d be interested to see how the Alpkit compares away from the web sites with:
Decathlon MT500 (R3.3; £64.99; 670g; 180x52x5);
OEX Flux 5.0 (R3; £49.00; 540g; 181x57x5.5)
Alpkit Whisper (R2.5; £67.99; 720g; 183x65x7)
Great info, thanks
OEX looks the best of those
Its a bit "heavy" for an ultralight pad Paul? Also the "r" value isnt that great either. I think it has a way to go before it will challenge the likes of Thermarest
Paul i am looking for a better insulated pad i am tall 6ft 2 and 16.5 stone i use trekolgy one at moment any ideas what might suit happy to pay a decent amount
Looks a great bed if weight is not an issue. I would have been tempted myself if it was lighter. Can't really justify getting the thermarest just yet, but my exped is only a little heavier and weighs less than the whisper.
Thanks for sharing Atb mark
As something to get you started it looks fine. Could always place a cheap foil mat under it for cooler nights
I love the Alpkit range of products - and this was one of the first few things that I bought from them. They do repairs on the vast vast majority of things which was one big draw for me!
That mat looks the same as the Stoic Kasker mat from Bergfreunde. It's on sale for 58 euro's at Bergfreunde. The specs and insulation are the same.
2.5 R value? 😬 That won't be enough for Summer in Scotland (which is a lovely day by the way) 😂
I used it in below freezing conditions albeit with a foam mat a 850 fill quilt and a bivvy. It was very effective and comfortable.
@@heather333 unfortunately it was January 23rd So that’s it. We’ve all missed it 😂😂
I agree, especially when it weighs 720 grams. My Thermarest Uberlite is around that R value but only weighs 235 grams. My Thermarest XTherm NXT is R7.2 and weighs 453 grams. True, they are much more expensive. I just enjoy a good night's sleep.
More than enough r value for most people as it is good to 0 degrees. At the price point for a wide comfy mat it’s a no brainer. Thermarest is ridiculously expensive for what it is, overrated and overkill for most people.
Don’t forget that Thermarest have an incredible warranty.
If you want to try out this mat to make a video on? Only a few people have made a video on this mat. The Sea to Summit Camp Self-Inflating Foam Sleeping Mat.. I have all 3 and one I like the best Is the Tapered - Large (78 x 25 x 1.5 inches)
Keep up the good work on making video.
Thanks for the review, Paul. I’m shopping for an affordable mattress in this catagory. At the moment, I’ll have to go with the Paria Outdoors similarly constructed mattress, at 3.5 R Value (not the best but not terrible), and at $85 here in the US. Cheers and thanks so much for turning comments back on.
I need to upgrade my mat in the future, but my wife will kill me if I ask for any more camping gear lol, I’m using a vango trek pro standard mat which is narrow and narrower near the feet, good R rating tho and 5 cm thick
Anyone tell me the advantages of top-to-bottom tubing vs side-to-side tubing on sleeping pads?
Multimat extreme, closed cell. Failsafe, superwarm, superlight - 350g. 30 quid. Job done.
I used to sleep on the original karrimat in the 80s. I was young then. 40 years later I prefer the comfort and also the compact size of my exped.
If you can sleep on a multimat then go for it. They are good, if bulky.
@@BrokenBackMountains yeah, I am half joking to be fair. I'm 51 and just still get away with it. I had to throw my old half blue half yellow karrimat out last year after 25 years, a sad day. Ill be on the inflatables before too long. Anyhoo.....all the best pal, keep enjoying the great outdoors. Ye canny beat it!!
@@mountain_del1863 Only 6 years younger than me :) I'd be crippled if I slept on a karrinat now. You must be a lot tougher than I am.
The min thing is we keep going out. ATB
One of my mats, a mil 1cm closed cell is great. Even though I'm mostly a side sleeper, but then, I'll sleep anywhere and don't toss much. But... It mUassive!
And... On a day to day, the therm xlite nxt is so comfy and warm. Just got to be careful.
My v thin foam mat is a sitting pad during the day and a therm a rest guardian by night 😂.
2.5……….hmmmm no. For the same price you can get a Vango Aotrom thermal at 3.2
the Alpkit is significantly heavier
4.5 R
350 g
Vs
2.5 R
720 g
huge differences
Get the Alpkit Cloud Base and the EZ Sleeper
Lighter and cheaper and warmer combined than the Whisperer
Hi Paul, great review of this pad, got me thinking as I was looking at getting a Robens FjellGuard 80 but there's not much on youtube about them - have you any experience of them?
Looks good, not much more expensive than a 0 r value cheap thin pad. Thick, wide, not too heavy. The thermarest is noisy by comparison for sure!
Have 1 on pre order paul 😁👍 should arrive nextweek .. much better quality than the ones ive bought in the past 12 months and actually has an R value thats creditable and true. 😁 Alpkit are a great uk company with good ethics and customer care.. Similar to Rab both excellant.. 👍
The lifetime guarantee is worth the xtra cost. The insulation is better, and you will rip something. The seams will open at some point. Especially if you use the chair solution they've got. Get the Alpkit if you're a summer camper for 2 weeks a year.
Well timed review thanks. It’s currently on offer plus I had a £10 rewards voucher to spend so bought it after watching 👍
Top review as usual Paul, but I did find the closing sequence a bit of a let down......sorry, couldn't resist a terrible gag...
Hi there. Looking at alpkit tents. Kangri 2 person or something similar name. Have you ever used one ? Never bought Alpkit before so any advice would be great
Great video I just tried one today and was so surprised how comfortable it really was 👌❤️
Blowing into the bag, to reduce breath condensation! Lol. Only messing. Good vid, thanks.
hi paul the alpkit pad looks great ill check that out mate and the sack to blow it up whats it called paul and how much are they mate been after one but couldn,t find one because i didn,t know the name of the sack. and it has the same valve as mine
Isn't the smaller of the 2 suited for inside of sleeping bag ?
Can't see the point in blowing into the sack to inflate it when the whole point is to avoid moisture
I'm really interested in that, thanks Paul 😎👍
Looking forward to seeing you using it on the hills Paul.
Looks like a good value piece of kit
Great review thanks 👌
Great review. Looks like a good value option for most of the year. Have you tried any of the big agnus mats? The rapide sl insulated looks like a good option with an r value of 4, less than 600g, and £140. Not an xterm, about half the price.
I got a Rapide to try, super comfortable! It has that nice cradling effect with larger side baffles and is a good thickness too.
I ended up going with the Sea to Summit Etherlight Women's despite it being pricier, as it was nice and wide in the hip area and a bit lighter than the Rapide (which I could only get in narrow) but the Rapide was warmer and a really high quality, comfortable pad in my experience 👍
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I have the Thermarest NeoAir Uberlite Large, not used it yet, but have a feeling it will be useless for me as i toss and turn
I toss and turn. Same Mat. They’re brilliant
Surely if you're blowing into the pump sack, moisture is still getting into the pad 🤷♂️
There's science behind it Al.it's not the moist air from your lungs that's filling the bag www.scienceworld.ca/resource/windbag
@@PaulMessner that's an interesting article. Thanks, I was wondering the same as ' Feel the need'. Waving a bag round in a small tent to fill my thermorest.....well I do end up laughing a lot And my mat does eventually get filled. Must be a nack that I have failed to learn yet. But that sock bag looks much simpler and you aren't having to clip and unclip it all the time!
Great sized pad that. Being 6’3 I find a thermarest far to small and narrow, and if I get the largest that they do these days, it’s basically a mortgage payment to buy one.
I’ll stick to my KilosGear pad. Super comfy, way cheaper and by far warm enough for me.
Alpkit is a great brand too, great video Paul 👌🏻🫵🏻
This is good timing, I have a pipe dream 600 and a trekology UL mat (I know this is budget) I was up kinder Sunday and it was 4 ish overnight and I was cold, the bag was up to the job, the question I ask is how much of a difference does a mat like this vs the trekology make?
The UL80 I found cold even in Summer. Whilst it lasted. Started to deflate after a few uses. Buy cheap buy twice indeed 🙄
A great deal. Without effective insulation (ie you feel any cold areas underneath you, without sleeping bag) imagine the ground as a cold sump under you sapping heat from you.. That's how I picture it anyhow.
A thin foam mattress (which in day could be your do all sitting pad) and an alum reflector would greatly improve your setup for little cost.
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