On the 8th Day - Nuclear Winter Documentary (1984)
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- ''On The 8th Day'' is chilling, a result entirely consistent with its aim. The one-hour documentary explores the possible ecological and atmospheric consequences of nuclear war, particularly as they would be expressed in a ''nuclear winter.'' Darkness would shroud the Northern Hemisphere; temperatures would fall. The planet would survive, but not as a hospitable place.
''On the Eighth Day'' was originally produced for the BBC as part of the series The Natural World, and aired in the United States on cable station TBS on January 14, 1985.
This is when the BBC was still independent and presented information in a coherent way. No dramatisation for no reason; no endless repeating information and talking to intelligent people who would be watching I.e. not dumbed down. I miss this type of programming.
Not much just fiction. Been fake news for about 5 years now. 1/2 anchors are fired or facing charges for a range of crimes. Has some of the lowest ratings of all networks,back and forth with msnbc also fake news. Fox has more viewers watching one show than cnn does the whole day. But they will tell u diff. Just take the CNN+ online nonsense. They had to discontinue it cause pretty much no one would pay for fake news. They hardly want it for free. It’s the new Comedy Central. FYI
Yes agreed 100%. Not like the crap they pump out today…
TV in general is different to 40 years ago.
And then Rotschild bought it, and shut down all the stories about Gaza. Until then the BBC was the premier source for Palestinian news, it was a daily thing. Not anymore.
I predicted this for years, got banned from numerous left wing channels for the effort. This was all set in motion when America decided Muslims weren't people on behalf of israel. The rest is academic.
33% of the Senate is Roman Catholic, vs 22% of the population. The founders of the CIA, FBI, DC and the designers of the Pentagon were all Catholic, so too Tucker Carlson, Beck, Hannity, Spicer, O'Reilly, Ingram, Pence, Hawley, Blasio, Manafort, Prince, Devos, Kavanuagh, Barrett, Gates, Fauci, Abbott, Manchin, Comey, Rogan, Jones, Dore, Kulinksi, Rubin, Pool, Peterson, Dice, Cernovich, Crowder, Molyneux, Fuentes, Yilanopouse, Pompeo, Spencer, Bolton, Abrams, Stone, Desantis, Bezos, Cuomo, Pelosi, Biden, Maddow, Colbert, Hayes, Cooper, Toocy, McEnany, Collins, Rubio, Cruz, Gutfeld, Mattis, Richardson, Ryan, Huckabee, Gingrich, Sessions, Guiliani, Flynn, Bannon, Barr, Christie, Richardson, Melania, Kelly, Conway, Gionet, Johnson, May, Blair, Thatcher, Trudeau, Merkle, Tusk, Farage, Morgan, Cowell, Ventura, Bolsanaro, Putin, Posobiec, Corbett, Robinson, Woods, Icke, Camp, Duke, Kirk, Watson, Iverson, Ball, House. 7/9 Supreme Court Justices are Roman
Pro life is a foundational Roman tenet.
Mayer Rotschild sent sons to establish banking operations in London, Paris, Vienna, Frankfurt, and Naples. Baron is a title given by the Holy Roman Empire, it is also known as Fiehrer, or Fuehrer.
Baron (Baron and Fuehrer are the same title) Mayer Amschel Rotschild (1744-1812), was a court factor to the German Landgraves of Hesse-Kassel in the Free City of Frankfurt, Holy Roman Empire, who established his banking business in the 1760s.
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"The NWO will begin Sept 17th 2001 during Rosh Hashanah Feast of Trumpets, Resurrection of the Dead, the year 6000 of the Great Pyramid Calendar, in order to cleanse the Earth and Humanity in preparation for his Kingdom on Earth"
British Israel Foundation memo 1922.
Same year Boris Johnson's Great Grandad and Architect of the Armenian genocide Mustafa Ali Kemal sent Trump's Grandad Baron Don Von Drumph to America from Vienna Bavaria, Capital of the Holy Roman Empire. Same place Hitler, Stalin, Lenin, Trotsky, Orwell, Freud, and Boris Johnson's Great Grandad have lived and come from, as well as Einstein.
Oil giants Shell and BP are planning for global temperatures to rise as much as 5°C by the middle of the century. The level is more than double the upper limit committed to by most countries in the world under the Paris Climate Agreement, which both companies publicly support. Oct 27, 2017 (BP and Shell expecting catastrophic 5°C global warming by 2050)
Methane from Beef farming makes up 52% of all greenhouse gases, and is 90% subsidized subsidised. Banning Beef subsidies could stall climate change overnight, but guess who runs the Beef Racket...
"If any one saith that true and natural water is not of necessity for baptism, and on that account wrests to some sort of metaphor those words of Our Lord Jesus Christ. 'Unless a man be born again of water and the Holy Ghost...' Let Him Be Anathama." -COUNCIL OF TRENT Sess VII Canon II On Baptism 1545AD
Matthew 3:11: “I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance: but he that cometh after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost, and with fire.” The fire in this passage refers to the fire or inspiration of the Holy Spirit.
"Furthermore we declare we proclaim we define that it is absolutely necessary for salvation, that every human creature be subject to the Roman Pontiff"
Pope Boniface VIII, "Unam Sanctam" (Rome 1302)
"There is no graver offense than heresy... and therefore it must be rooted out with fire and sword"
Catholic Encyclopedia volume 14 (1911): 767-768
"A heretic merits the pains of fire... by the Gospel, the canons, civil law and custom, heretics must be burned"
American Textbook of Popery p164 (quoting from the directory for the Inquisitors)
"The true baptism is not by water but fire."
Prophyry of Tyre 300AD
"I propose an Aryan Semitic Alliance to create a superior Caucasian race"
UK PM Benjamin Disraeli 1890
"Today I declare the Crusades won"
General Edmunde Allenby upon capturing Jerusalem 1917
"But they want nothing but Palestine, because Palestine constitutes the geostrategic center of world control"
Dr Nehum Goldmann, 1957, founder of the World Jewish Congress and President of the World Zionist Organization
_"I have a foreboding of an America in my children's or my grandchildren's time when the US is a service and information economy, when nearly all the manufacturing industries have slipped away to other countries, when awesome technological powers are in the hands of a very few, and no one representing the public interest can even grasp the issues. When the people have lost the ability to set their own agendas or knowledgably question those in authority, when clutching our crystals and nervously consulting our horoscopes, our critical faculties in decline, unable to distinguish between what feels good and what's true, we slide almost without noticing back into superstition and darkness."_
_"The dumbing down of America is most evident in the slow decay of substantive content and the enormously influential media. The thirty second soundbite, now down to ten seconds or less, lowest common denominator programming, credulous presentations on pseudo science and superstition, but especially a kind of celebration of ignorance."_
Carl Sagan 1995
Representative Democracy hasn't worked in over 50 years because politicians will always come from the monied classes and be beholden to their Corporate Donors, only way we avoid this apocalypse is to stage a Velvet Revolution to install a Scaled Direct Democracy. Citizen Initiated Referendums with thresholds and a Social Contract using Blockchain technology means communities can vote their own policies without parties or politicians. Banning Beef, Oil, and Fishing Subsidies would stall climate change and habitat degradation overnight. Thorium Energy renders their global oil monopoly obsolete. Police can be actively policed by an independent public authority with the power to prosecute bad actors in our own courts.
Or we can bend over and accept our Orwellian future
Yep the BBC is a bloody awful organisation now, obsessed with race and gender politics. Woke rubbish endlessly pumped out and their coverage of the COVID problem was nothing short of disgraceful.
I was right. There was a time when there were rational, serious shows on TV that took time to explain things.
Dude, TV used to be awesome. And FWIW, BBC still puts out some pretty fantastic stuff because they aren't just trying to appeal to the lowest common denominator. PBS used to be excellent too, back when it had some decent federal funding. Those days are gone now. The Internet made TV less pofitable. There's less incentive to make things that involve development and talent. Now, TV just plays it safe. More of the same. Unwatchable if you ask me.
Believing in the devil in the first place is not a good start.
The dumbing down is real.
Now Trump/Brexit supporters would just shout 'Fake News' - The world has become full of morons.
@@TheDaverobinson no NOT believing in the devil is the dangerous part. The old saying is "The greatest trick the devil ever played was convincing people he didn't exist". I guess you are too young to understand. I get it. I use to hate the church. But then I realized, the Bible isn't a story to be taken literally, it's a guide on how you are suppose to treat people. The problem with Islam? One dude wrote it. One man. You ever met a perfect person? No, you haven't. If you forget you are capable of doing great evil, then you will indubitably cause those you love tremendous pain. Because you think you can be righteous, on your own. You can't. Trust me.
"Strange game.... The only winning move is not to play." - WarGames
Which side do you want?
@@MarkSmith-tp6zc ussr
How about a nice game of chess?
Naah , I want Global Thermonuclear War. How bad could it be?
Greetings Doctor Falken, shall we play a game?
Really decent documentary, still holds up almost 35 years later.
Actually, as demonstrated in 2020 and 2021 - this is FAR more relevant today, as far less damage from not only nuclear weapons can have devastating, long lasting effects on too specialized and interconnected economy.
hasn'tnuclear winter been debunked as an idea?
@@Warsie what are you on about? Debunked by who? CNN? Snopes? Lmfao gtfo here.
imagine if they had Chernobyl data to coincide.
@@Warsie Not by any reputable body of science. But, much like the ultimate "judgement day," it's never happened before so people tend to not believe it can happen. That's dangerous thinking.
best place to be in a nuclear war is ground zero, no pain just instantaneous scattering of your molecules back to the stars
We are all made of stars brother, we all go back to atoms
The dead will be the luckiest ones.
The book of Revelation in the Bible, predicted that yours would be a common sentiment in the end times.
Revelation 9:6 King James Version (KJV)
6 And in those days shall men seek death, and shall not find it; and shall desire to die, and death shall flee from them.
One of ONE.
"A millisecond of brilliant light, and we're vaporized. Much more fortunate than the millions who wander sightless through the smoldering aftermath. We'll be spared the horror of survival." - Dr. Stephen Falken in the movie War Games.
A nuclear war is like a room coated in petrol. Inside are two people with matches. One has 7,000 matches, the other has 14,000. Just one is enough to set things up in flames.
The mind of Dr. Carl Sagan is sure missed in these times...
He would have been cancelled for not being woke
All that "White Privilege" would have made him very unpopular.
@@lilblackduc7312 Huh? what are you on about?
In the 2000s Carl Sagan and Bertrand Russell were quoted and used a lot in the Atheist Community online because religion was seen as such a big topic because of the war on terror, Islam, 9-11, it seemed like the number 1 issue at the time. A lot of people forget though they were both very passionately concerned about nuclear weapons as any rational person should be.
Pagan
Still so relevant especially now. Terrifying and amazing documentary.
"There cannot be any Victor in a nuclear war" and we do know that, but we've lapsed into a false sense of security relying on common sense because if a nuclear exchange did take place it would all be because both sides couldn't find a compromise and neither side would back down until eventually one or the another would try and get in that premtive strike and then it would all go to hell.
What the world learned from it 38 years later:
I read comments that if Russia moves even one inch on NATO territory then we should flatten Russia completely. Most of the younger people are not even aware of what nuclear war would entail. They think it's just like shock and awe on Baghdad in 2003.
Well, Kamala said this could be fun and a new experience. It feels like a good thing.
Ozymandias: Nuclear ☢️ war is so old school. I was born 2003 and my generation is past this stuff. We say let these Nukes fly. With our belief in Climate change and LGBTQ+ rights and moral superiority will protect us. And any way everyone knows we get our food from Convience stores, not some far off field or something like that.
If nuclear war ever happens, I'm sitting in the epicenter with a bottle of Jim Beam. Not only do I not want to survive to only die days to weeks later from a gross diahreah/vomiting death, but I'm also, not facing THAT moment sober.
LOL...man after my own heart....imma get a cigar too
There we go, make it a party. We can laugh at the fools running for shelter.
Brian Paul I wanna survive at least long enough to wear my T-shirt with the words, "I fucking told you so!" printed on it.
Brian Paul Oh, are you saying the iodine tablets were a waste of money?
Although everybody says they want to sit under the bomb when one goes off there's a good chance it won't happen that way, there will statistically be more survivors than those killed from the blast.
Suicide will come as unnatural to you afterwards as it does now because you have an inbuilt survival instinct.
Put it this way: why is it that all people who have terminal cancer don't take their own lives? I mean the last couple of months are not going to be a walk in the park and they know they are going to die, but they don't all off themselves with overdoses or shotguns, slit wrists etc.
Although in the terminal illness case the world around you hasn't gone to complete shit, but there's going to be that small bit of hope you have while you are alive that will make you fight through it even if you feel sick.
I'm not saying suicide isn't the best option, if a global strike happens you probably are better off dead, I'm just saying its in your nature to survive unless you was suicidal already.
I have noticed that 'Threads' has been taken down on UA-cam. This saddens me. Everyone, that is EVERYONE should see it as a bleak reminder of what could have been and also what might be if we are not careful. Ok, there are are other drama-documentaries which deal with nuclear war but none as hard-hitting and sobering as 'Threads'.
1957user It's OK, but IMO the producers were too enamored of their special effects ... look, everybody has a skeleton inside them! And again! And again! And again!! We didn't know *any* of the people in those 'skeleton' scenes and after the attack, of course, we never would. Threads and a small American film called Testament were much better; they focused on people and not glitz.
Mona Irwin I sort of felt that the extremely graphic and accurate depiction of the consequences of a thermonuclear airburst were necessary for the film to get the point across. Like, "hey, everyone in your town will be vaporized before they can even scream if we go to war with Russia," sent the right message.
Mona Irwin Totally agree. Threads eschews flashy effects for real, human consequences (pissing yourself in fear, deciding whether to eat a rotting, possibly radioactive sheep carcass.) It's the most terrifying film ever made. God, the ending!
Threads was better done than the more widely-known "The Day After". I'm glad I downloaded and saved it when it was available.
vimeo.com/18781528
Paul Freeman cannot be more right! _Threads_ is an overwhelming piece of work that hasn't dated anywhere near as badly as "The Day After". It's very realistic, and looks a lot more modern than it actually is. It uses the artistry of filmmaking instead of cheesy effects. But I warn you, it's brutal and horrifying -- I'm 43, and after watching it I had nightmares. There are no warm 'n' fuzzy moments whatsoever.
This looks like a great movie for a first date.
43nostromo you’ll defiantly get laid.
Defo !
Lolz 😂
@JB GTO 👈 grammar police
If I could even get a first date :/
It may be 30 odd years old with simple graphics but hell is it a powerful statement for not having a nuclear war
Thank you for posting this immensely important historical document.
Not so historic now sadly
@@notgadot whoosh
Yes I know. I was being ironic as the topic is sadly now modern @@notgadot
@@HuplesCat It is still historic mate!
"These are just some of the priority military targets" *Entire map lights up* GG.
John Doe .... evolve.
Eh South America, and Africa look pretty safe. Maybe parts of Northern of Canada or the big chunk of Russia where there isn't anything. Guess that's where they should build all the vaults. Could probably repopulate the earth if you preserved enough life. Though the big problem with that is you'd definitely need nuclear power to be able to sustain society underground for extended periods of time. Which would probably then make those places targets for nuclear strikes.
And they wouldn’t need to use the whole arsenal of weapons to hit every single target on that map, so tell me, who would survive a nuclear holocaust? Answer, the same idiots, that metaphorically, pushed the button and those with money and power, not you or I, just those who have everything now, and would then expect the average person to put everything back together again, haha, jokes on them, there won’t be enough off the average population left to do their bidding, guess they would have to get their hands dirty and pull there weight for once. The government know that the United Kingdom would cease to exist in a nuclear war, that’s why the Civil Defence organisation was disbanded, not for the cost savings, but purely because they would not make a difference, nothing would. 👍🇬🇧🏴
leathery420, you could well be right, but one small problem, nobody knows what would happen to the world 🌍 orbit or the geological events that it could, or should I say would, be caused by a MAD scenario, on top of the nuclear effects there would be earthquakes, volcanic events, Tsunamis, and probably weather events that make a F5 Hurricane look like a spring breeze. And for anyone who thinks I am scaremongering then I have to reply that I am just being a realist, but DILLIGAF about that, I wouldn’t be around to find out, I would be sitting in my favourite chair, gin and tonic in hand hopeful that it’s a quick ending, even if I could survive I wouldn’t last very long or be of any practical help with anything due to my ill health, and I wouldn’t want to be a burden or use precious resources that others would need more than me.
Good game.
Ah, the 80s, what a time to be a child. :P
I was 9 in 1984, It was a scary time.
@@w.t.fpipedreamwithhopefull5538 18 in 84'.
@@elconquistador932 Did you feel there was tension and a "strange" vibe at the time. (I'm Australian and from a small town)
@@w.t.fpipedreamwithhopefull5538 There were times when things seemed a bit scary. But being a teen in the 80's was pretty awesome. My mind was focused on girls and muscle cars most of the time lol. I lived in a small town as well, in Wyoming.
@@elconquistador932 Ground Zero in "The Day After".
No roaches were harmed while making these films.....
U mean politicians survive
@Mario Legend
Filthy nasty disease
Or mole rats lol
Hahahaha
They will outlive us all
Sagan died too young :(
If I could meet anyone alive or dead it would be him. I'm sure my brain would break from the awesomeness of his intelligence.
@@lr8786 Me to...
@patrick m orange man bad
@@viriatosilva2899 Too
@@andrewjb05051998 Sir, this is a Wendy's.
Nuclear Winter would be catastrophic enough but what scientific experts did not say and it was also in their findings, was that smoke and heat would also severely damage the ozone layer. When eventually all that cloud and smoke had leaft the atmosphere lets in six months to year, the earth would then exposed to dangerous levels of ultraviolet light. The effects from from this on humans and animals would be blindness and sereve damage too their immune systems. Plants and trees would hardly fare any better meaning they too would be killed of by the higher ultraviolet light.
Thank you for adding my anxiety.
And don’t forget - raining down the smoke is usually called „Fallout“. This isn’t only dust in the wind.
This was covered in the BBC post apocalyptic movie Threads in 1984. Once the nuclear winter cleared the destructive UV rays gave cataracts to most people that were left.
@@atommi1 Don't worry, you'll probably be dead. This horrible scenario only applies to those that didn't die of heat, blast, radiation, toxins in food and water, starvation, thirst, criminal acts to get your food/water, and furniture or buildings crashing on your head or trapping you by pinning you down. All this in the first week. So, only those who were inside deep underground caverns with a underground freshwater supply, or were in their well-stocked bunker, or perhaps in the metro/subway system, or by chance in some valley far away from all blasts, or working in a mineshaft will be around long enough to suffer all the stuff @Professor6871 wrote. So chill. You'll be A-OK.
@@ZobethC Threads was amazing
Every person on the planet needs to hear this documentary at least twice in his/her lifetime. Its incredibly important to know the affects of a nuclear war. Which leads to human extinction. Completely.
Every person in the government. That's where the delusion lies.
@@katdaddy469 no..I'm sorry.. but everyone has the delusion.. EVERYONE. 😕
@@pericbowen4958 sadly you are right
@@pericbowen4958 Not no damn everyone, speak for yourself. Some of us grew up during the Cold War & knew all to well about this stuff. Terrifying.
I dont want to know any of this depressing shit 💩
Hello, 1984. It's 2020 and we're almost at 1984.
Hey 1984, shit will get real in a little place called Chernobyl in 1986. The Soviets will lie about it. And then it goes quiet for a bit and everybody pretends to be friends. Wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, after terrorists fly some planes into things. Massive fucking tsunami in the Indian Ocean in 2004. Shit gets real again in Japan in 2011 after an earthquake causes a meltdown. Russia and China manage to piss the rest of the world off by 2020. North Korea keeps up the anti American rhetoric, pandemic.... and Donald Trump is still president of the United States, heading for a second term. Bet those nukes look pretty good now!
Yup
@@sianedwards7493 yeah but the 🛸 can shoot them down so it won't happen.fact
I'm seriously worried about what India and China are going to do about a border disagreement.
Like this video c1984, or the book/film, ”1984?”
(Yes.)
the most terrifying scene in The Day After is the one where Jason Robards gets caught on the road and then suddenly a bomb goes off in the distance over Kansas City (which is pretty terrifying in itself), but then that is followed by another detonation, and then ANOTHER detonation! This is when you realize we're talking a total war, not just a single bomb doing off.
Do you think that if the Soviets and the Americans had engaged in a nuclear exchange and the exchange was limited to one target the Soviets would have chosen Kansas City? Lol, cities are known as countervalue targets and when the nukes are detonating over them it’s because the nuclear exchange has gone full scale, is past the point of no return with MAD having completely failed. Theoretically, both sides could agree to a nuclear exchange limited to one target and certainly would destroy counterforce targets under this scenario, counterforce targets being high priority military installations which would also keep the doctrine of MAD very much alive, allowing both sides to negotiate a ceasefire with countervalue targets held hostage. Reaching insensate war or full scale general nuclear attack where both sides suffer complete destruction was so low on the probability scale during the Cold War, game theorists found it nearly impossible to even game a scenario where it happened.
@@GeoffCK the movie gave a reason why kansas city was bombed ... brb ...
@@MariAdkins I think you’re missing the point of my comment. Perhaps strategic nuclear doctrine is a bit to complex for you.
I beg to differ - first EMP and later post war scenes in shortage of everything.
To geoff ck., et al:
You make some valid points, but you are still way off target; there are more than enough bombs to do the job, and Kansas City would be a target.
To put things into perspective,, I would suggest reading "Alas Babylon', and imagine yourself as a national leader, bent on destroying your enemy. What would you do?
First, you would make more than enough nuclear weapons to do the job, and "harden" potential "nerve centers" and strategic weapons sites, or make them "mobile". In the case of The United States, and NATO; that is why we had (and still probably have) a third of our bomber fleet, in the air, at all times, plus the rest of the fleet, on 15 Minute Alert, at all times. The Minuteman Missile Command and troops, would be in hardened "silos" scattered across the Country, and ready to go, at all times. While The United States probably doesn't use the railroads, to keep their missiles, mobile, The Soviet Union did, and Russia, does. The United States also had nuclear-powered submarines, at sea, and moving constantly, armed with Polaris, and Poseidon Missile Batteries; These have been updated, to Ohio-Class Submarines, armed with larger batteries of Trident Missiles. The Headquarters of the joint Strategic Defense Command, or NORth american Air Defense system (NORAD), is deep within Cheyenne Mountain, in a hardened facility; capable of withstanding all but the very largest nuclear explosions. Likewise, they also have power supplies and systems, protected from EMP. The same is true, of the Strategic Air Command, near Offutt Air Force Base, near Omaha, Nebraska. There was also "Looking Glass", a mobile Command Center, at Andrews Air Force Base, near Washington, D.C.; ready for use, by The President, and the Congressional Staff, and Military Leaders, on stand-by; at all times, and there are persistent rumors; about a large bomb shelter, ready to accommodate The President, Congress, and the Military Command, somewhere in the Appalachian Mountains, and a short flight from Washington. No doubt Russia, and perhaps China; have similar facilities. So, regardless of who attacks, first; retaliation is assured.
Next, there is the matter of targets. The priority targets would be the facilities that I have already mentioned. That is the reason for the mushroom clouds, over the Kansan Farmlands; these were Strategic Facilities being bombed, and in most cases, the missiles and bombers were already on their way to Russia. The retaliatory infrastructure would be targeted, first. Next, would be the Army and Navy Bases, and related facilities, including depots, and urban supply, and transportation Centers, including Government and Communications Centers. So, there goes Washington, D.C.; New York City, Norfolk, and Hampton Roads, Atlanta, Columbus, Austin, Richmond, Chicago, St. Louis, The Twin Cities, New Orleans, Albuquerque, Denver, Great Falls, Salr Lake Ciry, Bosfon, Los Angeles, San Diego, San Francisco... well, you get the picture. Next would be manufacturing facilities, atomic weapons facilities, like Portsmouth Nuclear Energy Facility, in Ohio; Fernald, near Cincinnati, Oak Ridge, and Hanford; along with other, "Targets of Opportunity". The same would apply, to Europe, Russia, China, Korea, and Japan; until strategic, and tactical, nuclear weapons arsenals were exhausted, or nearly so. If anyone wanted to, or was capable of fighting; past this point, there are always explosives, Chemical, and Biological Weapons.
So, say "Good Night", to Humanity.
Just in case you think I don't know what I'm talking about; the reason that I listed Columbus as a secondary target, is as follows:
Columbus is a State Capital, Defense Center, and had been a SAC fueler Base, as well as an Ohio National Guard Air Base. North American Aviation, which manufactured the A-5-A Navy Attack Fighter, was located just south of John Glenn International Airport. The Defense Construction Supply Center, was located just south of North American; with Bell Telephone subsidiary Western Electric, located about 2 miles to the east. About 8 miles south of this area, was Lockbourne Air Force Base, where a Strategic Air Command refueling "wing" of KC-135s was based. The Ohio Air National Guard was probably also stationed, here; and still is.
Add to this, The Seat of Government, in Ohio; is located about 6 miles, West-southwest of North American, and D.C S.C., with other State Buildings close by, and County, and Federal Government Offices in the Area.
Add to this, Rand McNally has rated Columbus a #2 regional trade center, and Railroad Yards, major roads, Warehouses, manufacturing facilities, oil tank farms, etc. are scattered throughout the area.
While some of these factors have changed, I don't believe the rating would. My "scenario" would call for a 500 KT, or 1 MT bomb, dropped at the center of a triangle with these facilities at the points, say, near the intersection of I-70, U.S. Route 33, and James Road; with Alum Creek Drive, and Ohio 104; both important local highways; nearby. This might destroy all three targets. A second scenario would have three 50 to 100 KT weapons dropped at each point , destroying each target, with the simultaneous merging of the explosions destroying the entire area, plus additional damage, beyond. I will leave that, to people more familiar with those effects.
BBC was a really good station back then. I watched as much as we could get in the USA.
Why is it named On the eighth day?
Thats the time period they use in the video. Eight days after a nuclear war. Could also be a tie in to the Bible and the Creation story. I'm guessing though.
@@KillingDeadThings that's what I was thinking :prophecy. On April 15 it's 8 years from the first blood moon of the blood moon tetrad. In the bible a year it's like a day. The blood moon tetrads have a very significant prophetic meaning. So I'm thinking this could be predictive programming, if you're familiar with the term.
Benny Hill 🙂🙂🙂
And now (6/2022) it seems this nightmare is closer than ever. Incredible!
Here we are over 30 years onwards and absolutely nothing has changed. Einstein is still right about that too...
@Pool Bal sadly your right , it's just happening in different way, people just don't understand
Released in 1984, symbolically significant.
Thank you so much for posting this!
The most horrific aspect of this is that humankind has created its own destruction.
We are, without question, the most ridiculous creature on this planet.
For a really bleak realistic view of the aftermath of a nuclear post-apocalyptic world, watch "The Road".
Yeah I finally watched that a couple months ago. I've been exposed to a LOT of disturbing, violent, and horrific shit in my life. Seen more death, suffering, madness, and human depravity by the time I was 20 than most people experience in a full lifetime. So not much shocks, surprises, disturbs, or scares me in any real way anymore. Despite all that Jesus, God, and Lucifer wept did the "The Road" ever disturb, terrify, and cause the most soul-crushing, existential nilihistic hopelessness that I honestly thought wasn't even possible to feel anymore. Apparently the original novel is even more disturbingly dark and nihilistic than the movie was.... Ugh. Yeah I literally dreamed of nothing but ash covered dark dead forests for a week after watching that damned movie. I think what disturbs me most about it all is that I'm one of those people that would still fight to hold on and keep going. To try and create some kind of future, no matter what I'd have to do. But yeah thought I'd add my thoughts after seeing The Road mentioned, cheers.
Its better to read The Road it makes you listen better.
A fact for the interested; Albert Einstein was once asked "how the next war would be fought? He's reply was; "All I can tell you is the 4th will be with sticks & stones"!!
One of my favourite quotes!
In reality, there would be no World War IV. There would be nobody there to fight it.
Einstein: I have my doubts about that guy.
what rubbish the 4th world war well be when Russia who has planned to win a nuclear by surviving it, due to a mass civil defence system. then once they rebuffed they will invade the west and the USA if there is anything left to invade in the west
nuclear war is very winnable if you prepare beforehand !!! as the Soviets worked out in the 60s
@@Mr71paul71 No, the Soviets did not work it out in the 60s. Or else the Cuban Missile Crisis would not have ended the way it did.
Also, neither the US or Russia want a nuclear war. Even before "The Day After," both sides knew what would happen. The movie was just a fresh reminder.
I think it was in 1999, the University in which I worked had a large Asian contingent. One day, randomly, a rumour started to spread that Pakistan had nuked India. I can still recall the chill I felt in the few minutes until I was able to ascertain that there were no reports of any such event being broadcast on the radio. I don't know if we're safer today than back in the 80s, but there's no doubt the scars run deep.
Sad seeing the quality of documentary the BBC used to produce. Unlike now where it's drag shows, Gemma Collins and Katie Price.
Yes I agree.
As a teen living an hour outside of New Zealands capital Wellington, I remember a young substitute teacher saying "your teacher has asked me to plan this lesson around what would happen if someone dropped a nuclear bomb on wellington". She then rolled her eyes and said "I dont know why they would bother". Definitely took the solemn edge off the rest of the lesson 😆😆
As a fellow Antipodean I was feeling fairly safe watching this until they started talking about the smoke streamers and one in their diagram went straight across Central Vic, where I live. Yeesh!
@@mstakenidentity iron maiden cart and horses pub
Thank you for uploading this!
"Look mommy, there's an airplane up in the sky."
Everytime I listen to this sentence, I feel sick as hell and terrified ... :'(
Me too.
try living near an airport or near a stream of airport traffic
Japan, 1945...
i sit within 10 miles of robins AFB....it is a top 5 target in a nuclear exchange....yall on your own...i'll die so quick even God would ...WTH are you doing here?..hehe
It is always good to see Carl Sagan talking
Ukraine needs to watch this before demanding a no fly zone
Cant believe we are back to this
I agree a no fly zone is a bad idea but I can understand why the Ukrainians are pushing for one. This needs to be watched by Russian generals who have the power to overthrow Putin
@@welshcowboy306 Yes so true
I was thinking, most russians and Ukrainians were on the other side in the cold war so didnt see the anti nuke stuff the west saw
I think none of them truly understand what would happen if it went hot
I am concerned about the 100mt nuke torpedo, if true that would be 2x the zar bomba
Im guessing your in wales, im in cumbria so yeah if Ireland got nuke as they threaten we would get wet
These scientists appear to be actually following the scientific method. Despite their model possibly being somewhat off, they solidly demonstrate even a small exchange could drop temps enough to kill many millions from crop failure and thus starvation months later
Yeah imagine that actually following scientific method. The good ‘ol days. The method would help these days for other topics they seem to conveniently disregard facts and methods and just spit out the conclusion certain people are looking for and EXPECT from them. SAD state of affairs
To be honest I've always found the argument that nuclear scientists predictions are off so we shouldn't be that afraid of nuclear war. It matters not if 1 billion, 100 million, 1 million or even 1 thousand people die. One person dying due to dick measuring contests between global elites is too many.
@@judd0112 are you sure?
Would a madman actually care though? I don’t have the slightest doubt that Hitler wouldn’t have used them.
I wonder what a fundamentalist nation would do if they had them, such as Iran.
And there’s no telling what Putin may do. I think we’re just hoping that a coup might sort things out there, but on the other hand, if the present conflict escalates and things also go awry in North Korea, China, the Balkans, the Med and the ever volatile Middle East, I fear rhetoric, not science, will shout the loudest.
Thanks for posting this... youtube is great for archival footage/doco's etc these days... cheers from nuclear geek in Oz! ; )
This was 1 of a huge number of Brit TV programmes that were benchmarks of excellence. Since Brit TV has been Yankified it's been reflected by a corresponding descent to the lowest common denominator and plain stupidity.
Glad you showed this.
I've got the Threads DVD n I've watched it a couple of times. The last time I watched it was with my mum n her bf, so they have a round idea of what it'd be like if Putin does decide to launch a nuke.
Before she watched the film she wanted to survive a nuclear war but after watching it. She like myself now wants to be a grind zero or close enough to be killed by the initial blast but if it didn't. Then you'd want a gun to be sure. I sold mine quite a while ago to pay my rent.
@@TheManLab7How the War Started
This Russo-Ukrainian War has its direct origins in the events between 18-23 February 2014. A coup (given 2 sanitised names, "The Revolution of Dignity" and the "Maidan Uprising") was engineered in this time via Western intelligence services, (which will remain unproven for some time yet, in the same way the WMD lies green lighting the invasion and conquest of Iraq in 2003, the Gulf of Tonkin Incident of 1964 (more lies and engineered confrontation), the USS Maine blown up in 1898 (it was a boiler malfunction but presented as an act of Spanish evil), (don't get me started on how the USA entered WW1 & 2 but extreme provocation by the US is a mild observation) and official and active encouragement from Western politicians, NGO's (including those of George Soros), as well as by pro-Western Ukrainians. Testament to this was the physical presence of Secretary of State John Carey; Chancellor Angela Merkel; Victoria Newland (a Jewess whose father was a Ukrainian Jew, is currently serving as Under Secretary of State for Political Affairs and, in 2014, the Assistant Secretary of State for European and Eurasian Affairs at the United States Department of State); the US Ambassador to Ukraine (which breaks fundamental diplomatic protocol to the most extreme degree), among many others, in Kiev, actively encouraging the ousting of the recently elected pro-Russian Ukrainian President Yanukovych, touting the age old shallow cliche of "freedom and democracy!" That's means pro-Western in this context.
Point of note: Victoria Newland said to the US ambassador to Ukraine, Geoffrey Pyatt, in Febraury 2014, that the EU would not commit to getting involved with igniting a coup in Ukraine, with Nuland adding "Fuck the EU." This is caught on tape and when you consider Horrible Hillary arrogantly shouting out that if Russia was seen as involved in manipulating in American elections that it would be seen as an act of war and clearly indicated that America's response would be WW3. Biden and several others have openly called for a coup in Russia as well as Putin's assasination. A lot of your politicians need assassinating as too many are arrogant, evil and mad. I'm being dead serious and write as I find.
The Crimea
The coup d'etat that took place caused the Russians to rapidly act regarding the obvious danger of entirely losing the Crimean Peninsula. That month, on 26 February 2014, Russia deployed its military to Crimea and by 26 March 2014 secured Crimea. On 18 March 2014 Russia annexed Crimea. Crimea previously had an agreement when the USSR ended on 26 December 1991. Ukraine realised (then) that it was pushing things too far to have Crimea and cut Russia off from the only principal naval base and port, Sevastapol, they had - it's the only appreciable warm water port Russia has. They agreed to share it. With the coup of February 2014, that comfortable understanding was clearly in jeapordy. Crimea had never been a true part of Ukraine (ethnically, religiously, culturally, politically). Since Russia became an appreciable country in 1613 with the eastablishment of the Romanov dynasty ot Tzars and Tzarinas, (it has a very eventful history stretching back a lot further than that of course), it justifiably regarded Crimea as it's essential access to the outside world, via a prized warm water port. Ukraine, of course always has the Black Sea port and naval base of Odessa. The U.N., needless to say, doesn't recognise Crimea being part of Russia. This alone has led to tension. It has far less justification for recognising Israel but does. This, in spite of the Jewish nation state that existed before 1948 ceased to exist in 136 AD!
The Donbass
The eastern provinces of Ukraine, Luhansk and Donestk, in the region called the Donbas, broke away from Ukraine in February 2014 and are still fighting a war of independence against Ukraine. That war has been ongoing since 6 April 2014 when Ukraine started a war to regain these 2 regions. Ukraine was very much the giant compared to Luhansk and Donetsk - in spite of covert Russian support. Russia, tellingly, has kept that war as low key as it can.
Because of Ukraine's geography and history, the east and west of Ukraine differ. Unsurprising, as it's a big country. The east is oriented towards Russia (broadly Russian Orthodox religion), the west oriented towards Europe (broadly Roman Catholic religion).
In the course of Ukraine's existence since 26 December 1991, it has garnered the dubious distinction of being the 4th most corrupt country on planet Earth - which takes some doing when you look at the stinking, foul fish corpse the City of London, Beijing, Dubai, Tel Aviv, Bombay (Mumbai is a stupid name) and Wall Street are.
Jews are heartily disliked by Ukrainians, in particular, as the former USSR goes, for very understandable reasons, as Jews represented an extraordinary proportion of the fanatic Commies in the murderous Cheka, NKVD, Red bureaucrats and commisars who unleashed one horror after another on Ukraine, i.e. the 10 million (the magic 6 million is a lie) Ukrainians killed off in the Holodomor (1932-33), the Purges (1932-35), the innumerable summary executions in the Civil War of 1917-23).
Volodymyr Zelenskyy is a Jew. Yet he only started his political career in March 2018 and became President of Ukraine on 20 May 2019. Previous to this he was a comedian and actor. It's highly likely that he was elected by fraudulent means.
The Neo-Nazi Azov Battalion is a Ukrainian military unit that is specifically funded by Jewish groups. Stephen Cohen (a Jew himself), who was Professor Emeritus of Russian Studies and Politics at Princeton, in an article on Ukraine called “America’s Collusion With Neo-Nazis,” says that the coup government in Ukraine since February 2014, has systematically rehabilitated and memorialized Ukrainian Nazi Germany collaborators. Among the Nazi collaborators memorialised by the present government of Ukraine, headed by President Zelenskyy, is Stepan Bandera who allied with the Nazis and committed atrocities against Jews (Soviet and Polish), Poles and Russians. Sakwa reports that “a giant portrait of Bandera was . . . on the stage during the Maidan protests/coup d'etat.”
Zelenskyy's military adviser and undisguised psychopath, Oleksiy Arestovych, (blogger, celebrity actor [notice a pattern here, as most of Zelenskyy's entourage are media types], political and military columnist, former diplomat, former spy, former soldier who says he's been in 33 battles in eastern Ukraine since 2014) has publicly stated that ISIL/ISIS's conduct of terrorism, burning people alive when captured and put in cages, torturing, decapitating with blunt knives, pure sadism and medieval cruelty (modern cruelty is plenty sufficient) is an admirable method of getting successful results due to the fear it sows. He says ISIS is a shining example of best practice for government and is the template for the future. He says Ukraine is not bound by International Law. All of this reflects well on America, as the USA backed ISIS, (for many years, just as it backed Al-Qaeda in the latter stages of the Soviet-Afghan War, i.e. 1988), in its civil war against Syria. The USA backs America's current Golden Boy, Pres. Volodymyr Zelenskyy (whose wife is a film scriptwriter) to a far more marked degree compared to Bin Laden and ISIS.
The Ukrainian Armed Forces' partial success in "valiantly holding back the Russian bear" is put into context when flagrant breaches of rules of engagement and International Law are routinly broken, eg: they site rocket launcher batteries within the midst of apartment tower complexes, causing Russian counter counter battery fire (which is usually over the horizon) to triangulation of the location, causing unecessary civilian casualties. The Washington Post stated that the Ukrainians are at fault here - justifiably.
@@martinidry6300Incoherent kremlin propaganda. You have been taken in by russian distortions of fact and history.
Who’s watching this in March 2022 ?
March 30 2024...still here
June 2024
Fascinating. Thank you so much for uploading.
Hell, that "handy plastic computer" is straight out of Dr. Strangelove.
Slim pickens.rode that bomb,
Well we have to close that "handy plastic computer gap" with the Ruskies!
I found that book in a book store a month ago. The "computer" was the clincher that made me buy it without hesitation.
@@KC0FZZ That computer will be a collector's item someday... if there is a someday.
That's probably where they got it from! And, Dr. Strangelove, probably got it from information they got from the government!.
Today’s world cannot cope with C19 let alone the aftermath of the bomb.
@BC Bob👈 scamsapien
If this happened i just went out in one huge last party.
Goodbye, and thanks for all the fish lol.
BC Bob 👌
@@skankhunt3624 covidiot
@@mrsuns10 another covidiot
I'm 12 seconds in and I've already shat myself. That music is terrifying.
Depends...
Might be helpful
Amazing how relevant this all still is today. Great post! Thanks for sharing.
2022 you can say that again. Although our numbers are much lower now.
Hear, here!
Take Care🦋
Esp now in 2022
Back when the BBC produced quality programmes worth watching..
I miss the old BBC ..
Horrifyingly interesting..The best documentary I have seen of this type of event..May all governments remember..
This has scared me for more then 45 plus years
I've been looking for this for YEARS!
Thank you so so much!
Now if someone could only get he ABC ViewPoint episode that preceded The Day After back up
This is grimly informative!
Universe: You won't find such a habitable planet in over 94 billion light years.
Humans: Let's blow it up!
With everything what is happening in the world, I'm watching in 2022..
It’s a pity that a conversation like this even need be had.
What is even more sad is the fact that these types of conversations and programs seem impossible nowdays.
Human beings learn by making mistakes.
@@777jones A good percentage never learn from their mistakes. That's why history constantly repeats.
nice to see Carl Sagan again.
Fake ass shill.
@@mattengels22 what?
@@mattengels22 lol, that "shill" is pretty much the reason you're alive today, stupid punk.
I really hope Richard has watched this. We need to make sure he sees this
I seen Brian Toon on a Ted Talk about 4 or 5 yrs ago on why we should be be afraid of nuclear weapons.
Smart dude!
Awesome, thanks for uploading that
I've always been amused by the idea of saving the planet. The planet will be pretty much OK no matter what we do - it has millions of years to recover. It's ourselves we have to think of saving.
Davy K - spot on. The planet supported the dinosaurs 65 Million years ago absolutely fine - if we completely wreck the planet, we may well die out but the planet will live on and be up and running again in a relatively short time.
I sometimes find that comforting; for example when the news is telling me how much damage we are doing, despite the fact it wont do us as a species any good.
Nigel McQuinlan - if your family is of a similar level of intelligence as you, then survival is about all they can hope for - nuclear war seems to be the least of your problems.
The planet will go on, but the biosphere is something we are capable of destroying by our actions. It may be that life in some manner will continue, but there is the possibility of leaving Earth uninhabited by anything grander than bacteria, if that. We have a responsibility.
Very true.
last i heard it was 2-3k years
like George Carlin once said: "the planet is fine, the people are fucked".
I was 11 at the time, who'd thought it would be this significant in 2019 again.
2022
May sense and sensibility lead and prevail
There needs to be a 2022 version of this study. I'm sure technology improvements will allow for much more accurate predictions. There must be a modern-day Carl Sagan that could help us with this. 🤔
Yeh it's on UA-cam you'll find modern day Carl Sagans and good content like this.....the days of TV providing rational programming are over.
"The only winning move, is not to play the game!"
Joshua, movie: "WAR GAMES"
Back when TV was done right great documentary and still if not more relivent today .
"The Day After," "Threads", "By Dawn's Early Light;" I've seen them all. "Threads," by far, is the most realistic of the 1980s docudramas. The reality is there's enough elasticity in terms of who has them that the chances of a full-scale nuclear war is remote, but one never really can be certain. For example, India and Pakistan have nuclear weapons. I listened to "The Last Broadcast," a fictional Toronto radio account of a Soviet invasion of West Germany. which was chilling. But Barry Hines' "Threads" is, by far, the most realistic and chilling account of a nuclear attack, even in today's world, with a united Germany. I wonder what would happen, for example, if the Baltic countries, now under NATO protection, were invaded. And a nuclear weapon was exploded? Would there just be one? Wouldn't the other side then launch? Then how many? Is there such a thing as a limited nuclear war? I don't see how...
Agreed. My human optimism says things wouldn't be so bad as "Threads" portrays, but my experiences of humanity bely this optimism. Americans don't like the film purely because it is so negative and has a bad ending. They are "Day after" people. And I think they would be severely disappointed if the SHTF.
If Germany had developed a working nuclear bomb of any description, Hitler wouldn't have hesitated to use it. And, since America was the first, and also didn't hesitate, I think we should all be very worried. I'm damned sure that if the USSR hadn't been gifted the information by a few insightful, worried people, Russia would by now be largely uninhabitable. We are a long way from being out of the woods.
I've watched the three you list above too. I agree that Threads succeeds in showing how things could pan out in Britain, I think it's a lot more 'raw' than the American films.. Any Government that was in charge should a nuclear war kick off, would not be able to do anything except to try to ensure its own safety along with the Monarchy. The general population would have to take care of its-self.
I thought that B.D.E.L. was better than The Day After, telling it's story from a more military point of view. I think though that anarchy would reign a lot quicker than the drama's presume it would. The aftermath of a nuclear attack would be horrific no matter where you lived. Britain could probably be destroyed beyond reason with as little as a dozen modern day nuclear weapons. If, in the 80's the Russians had decided to come west, we(in the RAF) were informed that without either nukes or Neutron bombs being used they could roll into London within 48 hours from their first move.
I just watched Threads, here, on youtube.
Debra Sparks Pretty bleak, isn't it?
Out of all of the post nuclear war films, Threads is pretty much the best, closely followed by The Day After.
Let's just simplify it. IF someone is scared enough to push the button, Earth will become a depopulated rock, orbiting the sun. Now consider the people who have the button under their fingers... I'm surprised we are still here.
WOW! I remember this watching one when I was kid. I think it aired a few weeks after the movie The Day After.
That movie was horrific, it scared the hell out of me when I was a child
Threads is better in a good bad way
Two thumbs up for you sir... Keep it coming...
Who's watching in 2022?
So I was 9 when this was aired. I have never seen it. Or even heard of it. Thank you VERY much for posting this. It's relevant to this day, cuz who knows...?...!...
Donald Trump is pushing for a nuclear war
Really interesting video, thank you for posting this. Whoever coined the term Mutually Assured Destruction was spot on!
Why is it named On the eighth day?
Amazingly informative documentary.
I suggest people find a novel called Down to a Sunless Sea, written by David Graham in 1979. I just finished reading it again after 40 years. The scenario is scarily like what we are living today.
Everyone in this world should watch this.
85% of the world would not understand it. Of the 15% that would understand it, 95% would not care.
Still mostly stands the test of time. Well done.
More recent peer-reviewed studies (which were done beginning in 2006-2007 and later by Robock, Toon, Turco, Stenchikov, Mills, et al) using modern computer models and current arsenals have demonstrated that these first studies were correct, but actually underestimated the long-term effects of nuclear war upon weather and climate. The more recent studies found that the black carbon soot and smoke from nuclear firestorms has a self-lofting effect when heated by the sun. This acts to keep the soot and smoke in the atmosphere much longer than the first studies anticipated.
The studies done at NCAR by Thompson et al used faulty smoke injection models, which led to the mistaken finding that the smoke would be more rapidly rained out of the trophosphere (the lower atmosphere where weather takes place). Large forest fires in Canada later provided proof that the smoke would rise higher into the stratosphere.
See this article in Scientific American for a more recent summary: climate.envsci.rutgers.edu/pdf/RobockToonSciAmJan2010.pdf
so instead of death....it would be even worse death
@Serious Face A fate worse than a fate worse than death?
Good comment, thanks
@Snickersbite I was talking about the informative original post!
@@stevetattersall5933 A worse fate more worse than a fate worse than death,only worse.
I fangirled hard w/ Dr Sagan. Thought I've seen everything of his. Was wrong. Am pleased.
PLEASE MAKE IT "MUST WATCH" FOR EVERY SO CALLED POLITICIAN
Back when TV had a bit of integrity.
But no more, no more.
Amazing thanks for uploading !!! I love Cold War history :)
Very interesting documentary, considering that the starfish prime tests of the early 60s had already raised such fears. I am astonished that in our present climate debate the issue of those high altitude nuclear tests has not been raised. It seems this program focuses primarily on terrestrial detonation.
I am astonished as well. Also why so many people have cancer
iron maiden cart and horses pub
On the eighth day, machine just got upset -
A problem man had not foreseen as yet
No time for flight -
A blinding light
Nothing but a void...
Forever night...
Very good. Thank you for this.
I love how everyone looks and sounds like the cast from the 80s The Thing.
Even after that conference they were still very much optimistic about the result of a nuclear war. The fact is that nothing could remain. Maybe for a couple years some people will manage to survive but past that, there is no hope.
always good to have a refresher.
Just hope I'm close enough to a detonation that I would not have to suffer with the mutilated masses.
Good luck.
I’m not. :D
The horrifying realities of a nuclear confrontation have prevented major conflict for 70 years. I only worry about nukes in the hands of suicidal little tribal war lords.
+Oilsmoke Jones As the line in The Peacemaker goes "I'm not worried about the person who wants ten nuclear weapons General, I'm terrified of the person who wants one"
Justin Lee
Profound..
Oilsmoke Jones Very
No matter. You can charred to death wondering why nukes wasnt kept the peace any longer. Nuclear war is inevitable, thats what Oppenheimer realized. He knew and thats why he said "i'm become death, the destroyer of worlds". You could have the false hope and maybe you wont live long enough to see the war, but it doesnt change the fact. Until nukes or the knowledge how to build one exist, we are doomed.
ForMan Kind
Oppenheimer was a wheezing commie who understood nothing about international politics or human nature..that's why Truman pulled his security clearance..
This is so sad and scary. Why would people do something like this other's. What a world we live in is sad.
Interesting Doc. Thanks for posting it.
I can't imagine living without Ruffles
To quote Ferengi entrepreneur Quark;
“They irradiated their *OWN* planet?!?”
To be fair it wasn't OUR planet, it belonged to the voth who evolved 65 million years prior to the humans and now rule most of the delta quadrant.
All of my computer models suggest that nuclear wars would not be good.
7700Purplexity. NO FUCKIN SHIT.
I wish someone would tell the lunatic-in-chief that.
@@mariakelly5 OrAnGe MaN bAd!
He can't fire nukes without going through the house of reps + Senate. It's to stop presidents going rogue.
But someone, somewhere, with an agenda, and more money & power than you, will always refute you models with his models, which tell him it won't be all that bad. Then you go down in history as a fraud while he reaps all the adulation and admiration as well as more money and power. That's shy I say fuck it, let 'em fly. People aren't worth a shit.
Thankyou for put this on there honest truthful documentary 👏
The times when real scientific and informative shows were broadcast on TV.
Right. I miss that age. No political agendas and screaming at each other.
@@Hilaire_Balrog Don't fool yourself. There was plenty political agenda in MSM/Hollywood/Gov.
Sure ok.
@@dorkle9085 You weren't there.
@@RideAcrossTheRiver That doesn't mean I don't know that the TV from back then had a lot of propaganda as well.
i remember watching this right after the t.v. show THE DAY AFTER .
Watch Threads, far more chilling than The Day After.
Zooumberg Yeah,Threads was brutal,almost-overwhelming.Amazing,intriguing movie though.
I watched The day after for the first time, in a period of my life where i was really depressed, on the brink of suicidal. After watching that i had frequent panic attacks and catastrophic dreams for days.
Shortley after i was in for surgery, and as i was druged it felt like i was on my death bed with doctors trying to save my life.
Summa sumarum: Don't watch theese movies if you are experiencing depression or panic attacks.
Ducesweden How are you feeling now ?
Swane knoctic
About watching the movie?
Remarkable documentary. It shows one thing: Once science dies, our planet may die with it.
Well it's an interesting proposition... The only problem is...someone decided to try it out!
This is insane. Why the hell does anyone want that much destructive power. It's a no win situation.
That intro map scene was a banger
"The one-hour documentary explores the possible ecological and atmospheric consequences of nuclear war"
...Topped off with that extremely scary squarewave analog synth music that was both incredibly popular and effective so as to scare the shit right into the very pants of little toddler girls in the 1980's...brownstained my soul, it did!
Watch "Threads" it was made in my home city of Sheffield U.K very disturbing film
And when the wind blows,even though it was an animated film it showed just how unprepared the average person would be.
Sheffield, you live to far away from the sea! You should come to Liverpool were all the dickeads wear masks and are scared to go out because of a silly lockdown which in reality is all a hoax, still better than Wales where you cannot buy a pan or blanket, the people have no idea what it is all about, it is really about the paper identity being killed off and a new digital identity with no property ownership and cashless world with a communistic way of living.Corona virus is real but it not about what most people think it is. FEAR FEAR FEAR is what the BBC ITV and all media are pushing. When you are under stress you are not able to think clearly and The mind controllers (government get away with anything, look around you we are in a world where the population has gone NUTS and well behaved slaves
@JZ's Best Friend
No longer available... But thanks
Its important not to tax ones intelligence too much.
Do you have a link?
Thanks
Cheers!
Keep safe
God bless
The researchers had to retract some of the claims that made in the original TTAPS paper, when it was shown that the researchers had put "a thumb" on the scale of their model, intentionally making the output of the model more scary than it needed to be. It did not invalidate the basic conclusions of the paper, only that they overstated some of the effects.
I was 16 in 10th grade when this came out. I remember it.