Unreasonably Tight Truckers Hitch
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- Опубліковано 19 січ 2019
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All common variations of the trucker's hitch use a loop in the standing part of the rope and the anchor point as makeshift pulleys in order to theoretically obtain a 3 to 1 mechanical advantage while pulling on the working end.
There is sometimes confusion about how much theoretical mechanical advantage is provided by the trucker's hitch. If the trucker's hitch were to be used as in the pulley diagram at right, to lift a weight off the floor, the theoretical mechanical advantage would be only 2:1. However in the common use of the trucker's hitch, a static hook, ring, or rail, serves as the lower pulley, and the rope across the top of the load is the portion being tensioned. Thus, the standing part of the rope is represented by the top anchor point in the diagram, and the theoretical ratio is indeed 3:1 when the working end is tensioned. That is, in a frictionless system, every unit of force exerted on the working end would produce 3 units in the standing part of the rope over the load. In the typical use of the trucker's hitch, where it is used to tighten a rope over a load, when the end is secured to the loop of the Truckers hitch and let go, the tension in the two segments of rope around the ring will rise 50%, unless the rope slackens when it is being tied off, in which case the tension may drop to any value or even zero if enough slack is allowed. But when the trucker's hitch is used as in the diagram, after tying off, the load on the attachment point above the top pulley will drop to 400 lb and the tension in the two lines going to the lower pulley will not change.
Theoretical considerations aside, in real world use the mechanical advantage of the trucker's hitch is significantly less than the ideal case due to the effects of friction. Friction has been reported to reduce the mechanical advantage from 3 to 1, to well less than 2 to 1 in many cases. One advantage of the friction within the trucker's hitch, compared to a hypothetical pulley-based system, is that it allows the hitch to be held taut with less force while the working end is secured. - Wikipedia - Навчання та стиль
Knots, hooks, rope = optional.
Saying the cargo won't go anywhere = mandatory
amen
I'm glad you remembered to say it's not going anywhere.
I was starting to get worried.
Beat me to it, every dad knows the rules. A good slap and “that’s not going anywhere”
@@Toyo.duh. darn tootin'!
What do you think happens when you die? ua-cam.com/video/TCSUKIhjevo/v-deo.html
EXACTLY
@@Toyo.duh. LMAO 🤣
TRUER WORDS HAVE NEVER BEEN SPOKEN
"This thing is Not going anywhere." It's officially dad tied.
I never made it past the "standard bowline", lol.
Should have joined scouts. 😆
Me too. I'll just buy a pack of ratchet straps.
Lmfao
Arguably the bowline and derivations of it is the only thing you'll ever need. You should learn it. It's really simple.
I know how to tie a bowline....and even at 0.5x speed I have no idea how he did that.
Man I was expecting the sides of your truck to cave in 😂
If he added a hook more he could do it haha
The sides might not cave in , but the tailgate might not open...
This guy is amazing,and clearly demonstrates how the Egyptians built the pyramids using paracord.!🤣🤣
While it may reduce some resistance, I don't think it reduces enough to make it worth while having more parts and pieces to a trucker's hitch. A rope is all you need, simply add an in-line loop to increase the mechanical advantage. If you do it right, you can come back and make another loop over and over until you either break the rope or break your truck. No metal parts, just rope.
Exactly! Rope is all you need.
Using the clevis, or rings makes it faster and easier to adjust the location of the "loop". And way easier to untie. Solves two problems at once.
@@ronfox5519 You shouldn't have to adjust the location of the loop, you just put it as far from the direction your pulling as you can.
You shouldn't have to untie the loop either, once the line isn't going through the loop, you should be able to just give the rope a tug and it will undo itself... Can do it with one hand!
I use truckers hitches quite frequently, I honest to god can't fathom it being faster or easier to put shackles where I normally just put in a quick loop.
If you like the shackles, use them, but this faster and easier argument doesn't hold water from my experience.
@@roberthance1187
Now that ive looked into it more, i see your point. I didnt know how to put a loop in that wasnt a bugger to undue. I got some practicing to do. Its going to take awhile to break my old habbit.
I guess you've never heard of a ratchet strap?
What a freakin awesome trick man. I tie down tree debris and brush on my trailer and use truckers hitch to secure it all. This little trick will take it to the next level and no more risk of ripping skin off the fingers pinching the bite to half hitch the knot to hold it. Excellent man! I’ll be using this trick and I’ll be sure to shout you out once I have a chance to demo it in a video
This is another great one I hadn't seen with a double "truckie's hitch" (it's Australian) ua-cam.com/video/drkcOzCjuuU/v-deo.html. Probably not nearly as taught as the one in this video but doesn't require any hardware and still very secure; providing, I think, a four to one advantage.
With current lumber prices you gotta secure that $200 load!!
As long as no one gets any ideas about using that system for lifting or serious load control. You de-rate the capacity of the second shackle by not using the pin. You also need to ensure that the line is rated for that much tension.
Timothy Johansson, and the truck sides if the tailgate is open.
"everyday" use will work fine. great idea, how about giving credit where credit is due. just saying.
I rather use my ratchet straps.
De-Rate?, It's not rated for it at all. (They are only rated for use with the pin, and only for in line linear loads against the pin. ) The cheapest way to get a valid load rating would be to use two or three links of chain and join the shackles w/ the pins) (Assuming you don't already have rings or a double shackle.
For those who missed it there was subtle satire in the use of the term de-rate.
And here I was the kid of a life long trucker thinking that whenever you attached a mechanical piece to your rope, it’s not a truckers hitch then it’s a mechanical assisted hitch.
Truckers hitch uses only the rope.
Hence the name, you only need the rope and a real “trucker” to show you how it works.
Otherwise why carry around all this extra shit that can bend when under a heavy load? Load shifts, those metal U bolts WILL BEND bad break.
Rope flexes and stretches before it snaps, and requires way more linear force to break away from the loads stress.
Ubolts however- snap under excess load stress. It’s literally the weak link when using chain on purpose.
100% agreed... Aside from adding points of failure, you're just adding parts. That said, for educational purposes, you should know how to multiply the advantage of a truckers hitch with inline loops before you learn to do it with extra parts.
There are many situations where a truckers hitch will be useful, not just securing a load. Any situation where you need a very tight rope, a truckers hitch can be very useful. However, if you don't know how to do it with a rope alone, then you're simply handicapped without your metal parts to go with it.
You don't teach a scout how to use a lighter rather than how to build a fire.
??? When have you ever seen a schackle break?
Off the top of my head, i cant think of any part of the system that is as reliable.
This also shows how you could use simple Steel Rings instead of hard to release mid-line loops.
The minute i figured out what he was doing, i kicked myself 73 times for not using steel rings through the years.
Something people dont seem to realize with this is when transporting things, especially over distance, whatever you are using to hold said stuff down naturally loosens up. This makes it far far easier and faster too retighten when using rope as well as you dont have to deal with fused knots
This is one of the reasons why i use rubber (tire interior cut to a long strip) to tie things down. It naturally tightens on its own
Truckers hitch doesn't "fuse" (I think I know what you mean) when tied correctly.
It all just unravels when you release it.
This man has a lot of faith in his truck.
You my friend, have changed my life.
Great video. Only one thing. If you do another one please go a tad slower with knots, and rigging. It was hard to keep up with you. I will use this tip in my future.
Pro tip, play video at .75 or .5 speed when having a hard time keeping up
@@blairs6664 playing back at .5 you are taking advice from a "drunk guy" lol.
@@lopaka76 lmao some people on here are at that pace lol. I usually have to speed videos up, but this guy was definitely pretty quick
@@blairs6664 as soon as I played him back at .5, I could see him "no officer, I'm not drunk."
@@lopaka76
Hilarious. He totally sounds drunk.
Bwhahahaaa!
I ordered these from you a month ago. Didn't read your directions until tonight. I've been missing out. I can't wait to use this method in my LLV tomorrow❤
Thank you for labeling this as "Unreasonably Tight" in the description.
All I could think is "that's unreasonably tight" given other alternatives for the same application.
I Always carry ROPE, Now Cardboard, or .... just How strong do I have to be?
I'm 'sure I would have realized before.... ? - will now.
I have seen a lots of videos how to secure loads. This is absolutely the best, cheap and practical way to do it. Thank you!
Damn a 4 dollar 500lb rachet strap is expensive?
Love your videos and I now love having the confidence to say it exactly how you say it.
"That is not going anywhere!"
This is why someone invented the ratchet strap.
You there. This. Need some int level of using this probably neat rope trick - with a single tool that job gets easy as heck.
Ratchet strap + back rack = perfection
@@GGorsty except you need to buy the shackles, can get a ratchet for the same price.
@@jasonrowe6302 two alpine loops(think people call it a butterfly loop?) would work just as well
@@jasonrowe6302 Doubt a ratchet strap could get as tight as this thing. Especially with a 4/1 advantage.
love how the bed / door gap got bigger when you undid the rope .
We used to do this in the Army while transporting "good's" over Sea. 👍
Guy posts a video demonstrating a nifty knot idea, and the entire comment section is filled with people trying to out smart his demonstration.
He damaged the wood and used shackles where simple loops from double overhands or figure-8's would do. No one tying anything down would use this method. It could easily exceed your rope or tie-down points capacity with that much force. It's not smart at all.
@@mattmarzula: Very true, "tiedown" points in most truck/ute "tubs" - are hardly fit for purpose.
"BTW", no matter how much tension you can put on a rope (with any kind of system) it is up to the "loader"/Rigger to decide how much is needed to secure the load. (can/=should)
@@mattmarzula Uh, I believe the intent was to simply show the tension advantage gained by using a 4:1 loop vice 1 or 2. Ergo, very little effort was exerted to get that amount of tension. Basic physics nicely demonstrated.
A standard truckers hitch actually gives a 3:1 mechanical advantage, not 2:1
This method prevents heat cutting of your cross over lines during tightening of the load. Great idea!
Awesome simple how-to. ~3 mins, straight to the point, and well explained.
Love the quality of the videos, I can see every individual fly-away strand on the ropes, and it also makes it easier to see which loop you're throwing the rope through. Other tutorials either have weird angles, or don't take stills to show where the ropes go. Love it!!!
love people who know how to make knots for different purposes!
Phenomenal video, incredibly clever how you used the hardware to avoid having to break an incredibly tight knot. I will 100% be doing this soon and telling everyone I know about it
No you won't ,.stop being gay
@@nsbstrong3624, stop being a douchebag.
This is very unreasonably tight sir
Класс, возьму на вооружение! Спасибо за информацию.
Good tutorial on mechanical advantage.
Now that, was a good video. Great idea. I always carry shackles around. Never thought of using them this way. Thanks for posting this.
Yeah that’s great I drove truck for years and you can easily make a truckers knot without all of the shackles. Fast and easy. Maybe it’s some kind of yuppie truckers knot
@@SaltyPirate71 Yeah I do understand the mechanical advantage in block and tackle and pulleys and all that shit. But he’s trying to tie a truckers knot . t’s simple he’s making it more complicated than it needs to be is all I’m saying
@@robertmakiney8708 bet you did something in life apart from making UA-cam clips. Good on you and I totally agree as by the time you find the shackles and rig it I have tied the knot and driven away. Time is money after all and no one pays for empty loads.
Beautiful trick! This is wonderful. Thank you for all the great content. Clear, concise, and practical. Keep up the good work. 👍
I know I watched this about 2 years ago.
good job kid.
that's probably what I said two years ago.
Stay true to yourself everybody, you'll be happier.
For those interested the proper name for this knot is the Versatackle, it can of course be done without the shackles, just using loops as in a standard truckers hitch.
I really like this idea of using shackles though, one of the main problems of the truckers hitch and especially the versatackle is that the friction on the loops can easily damage the rope, the shackles will make the rope last a lot longer.
@@caskwith mainly because half the time is spent looking for shackles before tying the load.
My dad would always tie down with trucker hit and beat it into our heads I’m gonna have to show him this.awesome video thanks.
That's brilliant. I have to haul a lot of steel bars and hate having to use ratchet straps. Never thought to do something like that, so you can bet I'll be forging a few hooks when I light the forge tomorrow!
I could hear that lumber screaming.
I use on of those “figure 9” devices made by the S-biner people. They work quite well, but I do recommend that you smooth the teeth a bit with a file so they won’t damage your rope. Also, make sure you get the metal one, not the plastic.
"Niteyze"
I'd be concerned about three rings that have only one end connected through the pin. Seems like that would be the weak link here, especially since they're providing the mechanical advantage
Excellent presentation!!!
Nice way of achieving the 4:1 purchase. I can think of other uses for this, but it seems overkill for securing a load in a truck. I use a similar system instead of a winch for getting a sailing dinghy onto a trailer on my own.
These are mostly forgotten techniques. Now everybody wants to use a winch.
no such thing as overkill when you get rear-ended, you don't want your load bouncing and landing in someone's lap.
i think i might be addicted to tying knots xD
This Man is the best.
At 1:44 you actually have a 3:1 advantage and at 1:54 you actually have a 7:1 advantage
I've pulled out small trees, bushes, and and old carport with nothing but high tension rope. This would have saved me having to tie many, many knots!
Wonderful! Many thanks Mr. Balleng
I'm gonna have to try this next time I'm hauling stuff
Your dad is very proud of you
Thankyou. Ratchet tie downs have their place but i love this method of tiedown and will certainly be useing it.
Friction is the enemy. Cool shackle usage.
nice one, that really bites down on there. that wood was so dented. lol.
i was thinking, you could have simply finished that off with a cleat hitch. (like for docking a boat). it almost looked like that's what you were going to do.
AT LAST! Someone else noticed how Well Rope Held, Bit and lucky, hadn't chewed more up & swallowed ... yet.
As for this, we all benefit what Learned.
A standard clove at the first anchor point and a belly around the wood and a double truckie hitch on the other anchor point and you won't need shackles
Screw the ratchet straps , I got my shoe laces and two unbelievable small shackles , I got this
Great knot, but I'd be in the Home Depot parking lot for an hour trying to remember it.
Gotta love mechanical advantage
Truckers hitches can be doubled up too you know.
No shackles needed (taking up storage space and getting lost)
Also much much quicker to tie.
Excellent info. Thanks.
Huh im definitely gonna try this later. I can get the sinching pretty tight on my own but that would make it faster and less strain on me
Now that is good and useful. Should be on every boy scout and sailors knot board.
OVER THE TOP MATE, HOW BLOODY FAST WERE YOU GOING TO DRIVE HOME, MAXXAUS.
Thanks so much for showing
Very nicely done indeed!
Nice I will have to try and remember that thanks
Thats awsome u just saved me alot of work
Nice trick, excellent leverage, like it better then knotting loops in the rope
Wow that wood got ruined. In today’s economy that’s like $100 worth of 2x2’s.
This dude got some big stacks.
Brilliant!
Thanks!👍🙏🏻😁
Not once in the history of dudes tying loads down to trucks has the phrase "That's not going anywhere" not been uttered. This is the way of The Universe.
Yeah, it's funny too. You'd think if you put something on a truck and tie it down you'd be wanting it to go somewhere.
I could have used one single ratcheting strap and done the same thing in 10 seconds okay maybe 15. I’m sorry but sometimes you you gotta troll.
Not everyone has ratchets, everyone has rope and these D's are very cheap.
@@furyxvanity2946 I don't have rope
Agreed, with all these shackles, carabiners, etc, you're much better buying some straps.
Agree with ya buddy
Trolls are often right, but always near-sighted.
Great job! Thanks!
Neat trick, and very simple. Thanks.
What's simple about it? 🤣
thx 4 uploading another great video bro...love this trick..thx again!!..
I was on board till you showed the wood! 🤣
Dunno why this is showing up but I am taking a trip to the hardware ASAP just to try this out.
Great idea.
Bloody brilliant.
You lost me at the bowline😁
You could skip the shackles and use one or two bowling on a bite to replace them.
thanks dad
That's awesome. Boatswains mate approved
Nice shackle hack big guy😁
Great idea - thanks
Going to have to watch 30x before I can do it. Says more about me than the simplicity of this banding
I’m certain the board was purely for demonstration purposes only sure there’s tons of other ways but as I’ve told many budding technicians everything you learn is another tool in your mental toolbox. The tools in your toolbox is only as good as the user. You must possess the knowledge to work outside the box being innovative adapting then overcoming obstacles with what’s available makes you a much sought after valued and successful individual.
Hey a basic block and tackle configuration. Mechanical advantage rocks.
Brilliant! I bought some of those anchors to use when I make paracord bracelets and belts but this is definitely a great use for them as well! Thanks for sharing!
Very cool. Thanks.
Thanks for sharing !
The marks left in the lumber tells all.
I appreciate y’all’s teachings… simplistic genius..
Check out the Smarter Everyday channel. He does a great explanation as to how it works. ua-cam.com/video/M2w3NZzPwOM/v-deo.html
Since it damaged your lumber how about a video where you use straps around your lumber attached somehow to ropes on both sides then using the mechanical advantage thingy. I am moving soon.
Like it a lot, thanks for posting 👍
Excellent video 💪😎
That was 3:1 and 5:1 MA.
2:1 and 4:1.
3:1 only applies if the load is also doing the work.
In his frame of reference, the first pully is a stationary pully and only redirecting the force.
If he was tied to the anchor point. He would pull himself forward with a MA of 3.1
Well done over complicating a basic rope skill.
The attachment is called a girth hitch. You can also use carabiners instead of screw pin shackles. Either way, it really secures a load big time.