As a 30+ year teacher... this is truth. I encourage people to NOT go into teaching. Day to day, it is miserable. Everyone tells you how horrible you are (admins, parents and teachers). The pay is poverty level -- literally. The only good part?... about every 5 to 10 years, you have a student come back and say "You changed my life."
It's sad! The professions that deserve the most respect get crap and those that don't (athletes) get all the adoration they want. I'm not hating on sports.. okay the professionals can kinda screw off, but you work 3 months and get paid millions.
I teach in Florida and have had the opposite experience, people are constantly praising me. And while the pay is not optimal, saying that it's poverty level is hyperbolic.
@@anubisdo7493 Brevard. And yes, they're always hiring, especially science. The only one complaint I got was on Thursday when I was covering for another teachers class, and I made one of her students wear a mask while I was covering. I was unaware that second graders don't have to wear masks. Had I known that I wouldn't have covered for her. But otherwise I get nothing but praise.
I love how our contracts say “.....and other duties as assigned...” which comes with no extra pay but extra stress and more time away from what we need to be doing.
No kidding. Last week an email was sent out asking for volunteers to mentor some at-risk students. I honestly just can't right now. Well apparently no one else signed up so I was one of the lucky few that got voluntold to do it
@@jamessloven2204 based on my little experience, there would probably be a lot of email reminders and subtle intimidation (using the phrase "this is a condition of your employment," etc.). It really depends on my reaction. If I agree and then never do it, they would most likely just keep reminding me more and more aggressively/annoyingly. If I flat-out said no, they would probably give me a write-up which would go on my record and possibly refuse to renew my contract at the end of the year so I'd have to apply to a different school/district. From what I've seen at the school where I work, the admins might just let it go but then be sure to give me the worst assignments and refuse to help me out with stuff in the future. That happened to a friend of mine. They wanted him to be the cheer coach because he did musical theater in college or something. He and his wife didn't feel comfortable with it. He's been on the principal's bad side ever since and she seems to always find ways to passive aggressively screw him over. Last year he did a pie sale for a club that he sponsors. The principal approved it and then on the day that his pie sale was going to start (right before Thanksgiving) she called a faculty meeting early in the morning and gave every teacher a pie. He swears she did it just to spite him but I don't know
@@jamessloven2204 If they get fired, who cares?!?! From what I can tell in all these comment Teachers don't even like teaching!! New flash: 90% of people who have to work, DON'T LIKE THEIR JOB!!! Hey everybody, here's an idea if you don't like your job get over it!! Or here's a novel idea... QUIT!!! Go get a new job!
I resigned in the middle of a pandemic, giving up salary and health benefits, bc it is THAT BAD. And it’s *been* problematic in every way he described since I got my M.Ed. and started teaching in 1999.
The pay at our district increases $300-500 each year BUT we have to purchase all our own supplies. I asked for a pack of pencils from the office for a child who really needed them and the secretary sternly told me “we can’t do this for everyone.” They ration printer paper to us like meal tickets during the depression. My office chair broke and they told me I’d have to buy myself a new one 🤦♀️ Y’ALL
Another thing they do is give you more and more responsibilities without giving you more time to do it...so you end up getting paid the same for more work.
And 99% of the teachers just sacrifice their personal time to get it done, so then that becomes the norm and the expectation. Work-life balance goes out the window. Adequate self-care becomes nearly impossible for many.
Extra work without extra pay or time given to complete happens so often, it's impossible to keep data on the amount of unpaid work REQUIRED b/c there isn t enough time to do so.
Oh, and don't forget all of those graduate classes that you must keep taking, that comes with about 6 hours of homework per week per class, or you will lose your job. When I was teaching, they would reimburse me about 50% of the course credits cost after I finished and received my official credits, but nothing for the books, lab fees, etc. This ended up going on every single semester and often during the summer. If you don't keep up, you end up losing your certification; hence, your job... and will most likely be replaced with an inexperienced and uncertified new teacher who is paid just a tad bit less. Yeah, that's the teaching life in America.
Hell yeah, teachers have a right to complain about pay. And not just the low dollar value. Every time an administration adds a new responsibility on top of the old ones to a teacher's list of daily duties, an increase in pay is required. Otherwise, you may as well be working for free and sitting on the street corner with your empty coffee cup begging for spare change. Not cool, and completely inappropriate for college-educated working professionals who do more good for the world in 180 days every school year than most other people and professions out there do in an entire lifetime.
Good grief. That happens to everyone. Teachers aren’t special in that instance. Boo hoo, I have to do extra duties besides what I was hired for and I don’t get paid more. Only government workers would think that they are above the problems every other worker in the world has to deal with.
Up until a couple years ago my pay was pretty stagnant. "Times are tough, no raise". Then we took pay cuts to keep insurance for a few years, then the government passed a law where we were required to pay a certain percentage of our insurance which meant we basically got another pay cut. Then the price we paid for insurance went up greater than our 1 or 2 % raised so again we went backwards. So, like you said, compared to inflation we make less now than we did 20 years ago.
The insurance hikes drive me crazy. And then every time I go to the doctor I confirm that it will be covered with just a copay. Then lo and behold I receive a bill a few weeks later
A full time job has you working ~2000 hours per year (50 forty hour weeks). All told, teachers typically work ~40 weeks per year, assuming we do nothing during holidays or summer break (not true but let's assume.) If there were ever a week out of those 40 when I only did 50 hours of work (i.e. 2000 hours total per year, a full time job) I'd be stunned. Nearly every school day I do 2-4 hours of work at home, take Saturdays off, and then spend 8 - 10 hours on Sundays getting ready for the week. I work a full time job... I'm happy with school breaks and summers, don't get me wrong. It beats two weeks of vacation a year that my employer won't let me actually take.
Here we have 4 weeks holiday pretty much for all full time employees. Many people work 9 day fortnights. I find it really funny having people who get the 9 day fortnights slinging off at teachers for the long breaks. It is the same number of days.
Yeah we didnt get paid for all of the breaks. Like February recess, we only got paid for that Monday. Spring break: only good friday. And Thanksgiving: only Thursday and Friday; you didn't get paid for the school being closed that Wednesday. And for Christmas, being closed for 2 weeks, only paid for C eve, Christmas, new years eve and new years.
This reminds me of a professor I had in college for English 101 and 102. The first day of class he asked for students who are majoring in English or Education to be an English teacher to raise their hands. He then said something along the lines of: "No offense, but you are making a huge mistake, unless you want to be like me where I have to go to my second job after this and a third job on the weekends, go change your major now before you regret it."
Was he an adjunct or full tenured? Adjuncts are basically contracted teachers that do not work full-time or expected to. Many take up adjunct positions through grad school or when they've retired and want some side income; usually it's like 2 or 3 classes they teach
My art professors said the same thing... They we're right. So my day job is being a teachers aid at a k-12 school. And doing art as my side gig oh and testing websites it's fucking wonderful never having my own fucking life! -_-
I was told after I was hired that my Higher education courses (My Post Bachelors courses) will not count towards higher pay due to budget cuts. So, that. Also, Covid caused a freeze in pay, so my colleagues who have been here 2-3 years (we are a newer Public Chater School) and that even when I earn my Masters (which I am nearly done with, so not stopping) that I will most likely not get my pay raise for the Masters.
9 years of experience, two masters degrees and this year was my 1st getting all the way up to 46k. I still can't afford $1170 monthly in insurance premiums for a family of three, but I suppose the salary, and the average 16 hours of unpaid time I put into my job every week are "what I signed up for", lol.
@@inthevault9603 Oh I was recently offered a job in Florida which wanted $1550 monthly in health insurance premiums and with my qualifications was only willing to pay 42k! It was a high-end private school too. Bare minimum housing within a 45 minute radius of the school and health insurance would have been my ENTIRE paycheck. Teachers aren't fighting for the good life, we are fighting to survive, period.
Laura O’Brien And that's after the district paying a sizable chunk. Last I checked my company rates it was $2000/mo paid by my company and $300 by the individual, for a family with 1 or more kids. Teachers have great health insurance so it probably costs even more than the $2300
This is terrible. Thanks for posting this. I looked at the pay schedule for Florida teachers, and after five years it didn’t look bad. But if they freeze your pay then I’ll be making less than minimum wage after taxes. I appreciate you telling the truth.
First of all minimum wage is taxed. So, it's not like if you just go work at mcdonalds you'll make more money than a teacher. Comparing pre-taxed to post-taxed income isn't really apples to apples. Approx. $24,000/yr is equal to more that $11/hr. Second, They only work 9 out of 12 months in a year. So re-calculate your math and figure that hourly rate, you get 52*0.75 which gives us 39 weeks @ 40 hours a week is 1,560 hours annually. Now lets take 24000/1560 hours and we get..... $15.38/hr. DOUBLE minimum wage! With that being said, your failure at EXTREMELY simple math proves you should not be attempting to teach anyone!!
@@TheAkashicTraveller well I'd say that is their fault. Often times teachers feel like the children need more than what the lesson plans have in them. So they spend their own money and time coming up with activities and decorating the room for holidays and themes etc. That's on them. No one asks them to go above and beyond.
@@jamesdriggers2011 In the UK at least they're not given enough time for lesson plans and marking etc. and they change the curriculum every year so that they have to do it all over again. Oh and they need all the paperwork proving it's been done for when ofsted show up.
I taught (resigned this summer) for 27 years, blood, sweat and tears, and every bit of what you’ve said is true! More responsibilities, less time, less money, more restrictions on how you teach, less support for discipline issues, I could go on but need to get online to look for a job, that I’m overqualified for, to support my family and pay for health insurance. 🤣
Devin, listening to this video is total deja-vue for me. I recently retired as an elementary librarian after 29 years with the largest school district in El Paso, TX. Your detailed comments about the salary schedule are spot on. I'm sorry to hear that other districts in the country mirror the same problems as my former one. I loved teaching and being a librarian, but I don't miss the financial shenanigans and lack of respect we've had to endure. Without sounding saccharine, I truly believe that next to parenting, teaching is the most important career in our society. Teachers and educational staff (minus Central Office types) deserve so much better. On a lighter note, your videos are hilarious and leave me crying with laughter as a former high school teacher. Keep it up; you're a bright light for all of us in the pandemic!!
absolutely preaching it like it is!! My retired friends, current co-workers, and even my principal have said they would not recommend for their children to become teachers at this time. It's sad because it's an extremely rewarding career, but things have definitely changed.
This is incredibly frustrating. Not only because teachers deserve respect (can't believe I even have to say that...) but because it is a TERRIBLE long-term situation for our nation. In an age when world power and security are literally determined by how fast we can out think other countries, we don't want to invest in the people educating our future citizens????? It's like bankrupting the military research fund! Our teachers NEED to be the best in the world, the same way we NEED to have the best military in the world. It's honestly a matter of our national security.
Let's also talk about how teachers are expected to take people's gratitude as payment. I don't care how much we're great people, how much parents respect us, or how when Covid hit we became "heroes", those words don't help with my bills. Martyrdom is a big problem in the education world. Yes, I teach because I love it, but I also do it because it's a job. Another argument I hear quite a bit is how teachers get summers off. I do? It's written into my contract that I have to teach summer school- there goes June. I used to spend July planning for the fall so I could stop spending my nights and weekends working, but that happens regardless. We start the new school year August 1. Also-those nights and weekends I talked about got cut a little more in 2019-2020 when our school started Saturday school. Yes. I worked on Saturday. Sunday should have been a day of rest, but instead it's a day of grading and scrambling to plan Monday's lesson. This all would be okay- not great, but okay- if I got paid more than a pittance. If anything it would make a lot of us less bitter.
Agreed. BTW we only became heroes during covid for like 3 months. Then everybody was crying. I'd love to take the "fulfillment" or "respect" (okay that one made me laugh) to target and get my supplies and pay with fulfillment and respect. I'd be laughed out of the store or thrown in a mental ward.
Good news, I've see tons of now hiring signs up this past year here in the mid atlantic region. Lots of opportunity to get another job if the teaching game is so horrible.
Colbert is one of the absolute smartest person in television! Take a look into his background and when he gets off topic from news and you will be amazed at how much breadth he has in his repertoire. (See his talk about how he knew his wife was the one.) He is just as savvy as Jon Stewart. If you read the book about the Daily Show you will also see what an upstanding person he is as well.
For some reason the teacher won't just quit. They act like they are slaves to the system when they can just find a different job that has better conditions. That is what I did and I dont regret it. If teaches left the pay would have to improve but they dont and thus there are too many teacher for too few jobs. Its supply and demand.
@@jaredneff5189 I understand but that is your life choice. If you truly want to change career you will, it may not be easy, but if it really matters too you, you can find a way. Most teaches that complain about the pay, if they could do it all over again, would still become teachers. They love helping kids and they do it for that, not the pay. If they aren't willing to quite over low pay then their pay will remain low. Supply and demand.
@@crissd8283 And then who would tech our kids if they all left for better paying jobs? If the only teachers we had were the ones who couldn't get better paying jobs our education system would be completely broken
@@morganw2492 That is also why we need to get rid of the teachers union. They protect the bad teachers while holding back the good teachers. Raises are all based on years of service and education not actual skill or quality. There are plenty of 2nd year teachers that are better than 20 year teachers. Also the field they teach should change their pay since good math teachers are in demand they should be paid more based on supply and demand.
As a parent and involves citizen I know this to be all to true and it is disgusting. Thank you for making this video and hopefully it will make more people aware of this horrible misconception of "they knew that they were getting into", or in other words it being bullshit. Teacher's have every right to complain about their pay and poor conditions and DEMAND better!!!
Yes!! All of this! My first 5 years...no raise. Step raises frozen and this year we were supposed to get out step raises finally, they blamed Covid, even though our city raised property taxes 34% to help with teacher raises. So no raise for us even though we are working miracles. Now we are supposed to get a laughable 2% raise for next year. Sigh 😔
I have 14 years experience with a Master’s degree...and drive a school bus. Driving that bus is not for fun, that’s for sure...I need that extra money.
Yea that's gross. I mean nobody should have to work 40 hours a week and not be able to survive, let alone someone with a graduate degree and almost a decade and a half of experience especially in a job that's so vital to society.
Masters in what? Education that leads to employment is encouraged and I support. education, tax payer funds a large % of, with little chance of gain full employment should be funded in whole but those who want it and are willing to pay for it. Just my option.
My father was a high school teacher for 33 years and during his last year of teaching my sister, who was a first year engineer, made more than he did after 3 decades.
Engineer vs high school teacher. WELL DUH!!!! New hires that haven't even passed PE test yet, can make 6 figures. Engineers build shit that people lives and safety rely on. Bridges, buildings, airports, planes. If they screw up, people die! If a high school teacher fucks up, they just get replaced, or you can transfer to a different class. Why on earth would you even think they should be comparable??? Oh, right. Stupidity, that's why!!
@@jamesdriggers2011 And how did the amazing engineer who has to build all "that shit" ensuring everyone's safety learned how to build all that shit? If they didn't have amazing teachers who taught them maths, physics etc. they would literally be building shit.
@@jamesdriggers2011 You're an idlot. If that teacher screws up, that bridge engineer later in life is now too stupid to see the difference between the metric system and the imperial system. Puts a up dubious bridge just to have it collapse under the weight of a fruit fly. Without educators, you aren't typing on this platform spewing your asinine takes. I see now; your teachers failed.
Yes. This is the truth. :( I have a cousin who has been a kindergarten teacher for over 20 years. I love her and I love to teach. I was a 7th grade math teacher for the year of 2006-2007 in Dallas ISD. I went on to get a masters and then got a job in tech, which is essentially to what I still do now. However, before I got my IT remote-friendly job, I was a sub for several years. The connection with the kids made me want to stay as a full time, but when I asked my cousin if I should consider going back to teaching full time, she without hesitation told me not to consider it.
I love when people tell me that teachers should be paid better than CEOs and then vote against tax increases...I teach in Wyoming so...to be honest money is good...right now anyway
I don't know about there, but where I'm at there is excess funds for education. I'm a teacher and I vote against tax increases, because it doesn't matter how many tax increases happen teachers don't make more. 😭 There is so much miss managing of funds, giving them more won't fix the issue. They will just continue to raise district employees pay. In my state we had SO MUCH MONEY in excess funds for education, but they couldn't raise teachers salaries. 😭 So voting to have more money taken away from us and other people to be miss managed? No thank you, I'll keep the money I can get. I will never vote for a tax increase because as a teacher I know how careless they are with taxpayer funds, and I think eventually they need to learn how to work on a budget without taking more money from hardworking teachers and families. The government sucks at money management, it goes everywhere it's not supposed to. So why would we trust them with more? There is plenty of money in education, don't believe that lie. They don't manage it well and pay everyone except for teachers.
The problem is not that there’s enough tax money. The problem is that the tax money is going to honestly stupid and useless things, like gender studies in Pakistan, an extremely conservative country.
@@yellowyosh470 Totally agree Windi. After teaching for over a decade and seeing things from the inside, I stopped voting to raise taxes, fees, etc that were supposedly earmarked to go towards education until I actually saw it really ending up where they claimed, which it never did. It always irked me how some extra tax money would be taken out of my pockets for education, but I'd go back into the classroom every single year being told we'd have to, again, do more with less because of budget cuts. Huh? Were did all of the money go? Well, I've known of administrators who have embezzled large sums of money only to be let go with full retirement packages, if they even went that far. Never any charges pressed or loss of benefits to even the biggest of crooks. Warehouses full of books and supplies that were never touched. All sorts of internal mismanagement from the government all the way to the specific individual school's mismanagement. Principals getting bonus vacations if the students and/or staff had perfect attendance, but none of that finding its way into the hands of the teachers. As you most likely know, that doesn't even begin to scratch the surface of the mismanagement and corruption in all of our school systems, with some being much worse than others. After so many years, I finally quit, and it wasn't even because of the pay. That was just insult to injury, and some of those injuries were literally physical. I wouldn't go back if they offered me a guaranteed million a year. Yes, it's really that bad from the inside.
OMG is that why my kids don't have a pencil sharpener at school!? Every morning I sharpen their pencils before they leave until my sharpener broke & I was like "Just sharpen it at school" and they both looked at me puzzled. Apparently 1 teacher had said sharpeners are to loud. My son said he had never seen a sharpener in his classrooms. Long story short I sharpened the pencil with a knife that morning.
Interesting and sad. In the UK older, skilled, expensive teachers have been managed out of schools to be replaced with eager, inexperienced younger teachers many of whom leave disillusioned after a few years . They are 'promoted' to positions that are untenable, given too much responsibility without anyone there to guide them. I remember one of my teachers telling me in the 70s that teachers are rarely respected as professionals. There are too many (well paid) managers and not enough teachers 'at the chalk face'.
And that didn't even touch 9n time to salary ratio with all the extra stuff you end up having to do with lunch duty, morning duty, afternoon duty, bus duty, lock downs that last hours past school day.... love the kids and actually teaching hate the BS!
Oh, you mean you have to work in the morning, during lunch, and in the afternoon. Poor baby. You had to work and extra few hours past 3:00. I’m so sorry. I’ll be sure to feel bad for you next time I work 28 hours straight and then work every day without a day off for two weeks.
@@mikecollier7732 Not to mention all of the many things that must be done that cannot, nor is even allowed to be done, while the kids are in the classroom. You know, like grading, preparing materials for classroom use, writing lesson plans, creating excessive amounts of visuals that are required to junk up every classroom, bulletin boards, contacting parents, etc., etc., etc...
Actually I am aware. My wife is a teacher my mom was a teacher my aunt was a teacher my grandparents were superintendent and teachers I used to have to help My mom after school and there in the summer. And you know what I never once saw her working from 8:00 in the morning to 8:00 in the morning the next day The fact of the matter is you're a bunch of whiny cry babies and you don't like it when somebody calls you out on
That’s why we need vouchers. Public schools are so mismanaged it’s disgusting . They all deserve double pay. Pay for performance is not reality, always a few bad, lazy apples. I thank all teachers but the upper administration in most teacher unions are crooks!
@@annedon776 If you read about Uk teachers, there are also major pay issues and shenanigans gallore. It's not just the US. Though I agree, it's bad in some states here.
I remember the year they gave us a pay increase, but then more than doubled our staff meeting/PD time so that we actually made less per hour the following year.
I'm a young educator, and if teachers can't make a decent wage, what should be done about taxes? Because it seems like no matter how high they get, nothing changes. I do not want to vote for more taxes to come out of my paycheck if money is only going to the ones up top. Do education departments report how much money they receive from taxes and where EXACTLY state money is going?
In most states, money comes to systems FROM the state and the Fed. The money comes with stipulations as to how it can been spent and/or on what it can be spent.
@@chandrajenkins9773 Stipulations intended to make sure it's not wasted instead actualy cause it to be wasted on the buracuracy that's supposed to be ensuring it's not wasted.
You probably qualify for the expanded Medicaid now. I quit teaching full time and started subbing. When I tried to buy health insurance they told me I qualified. It's provided by BCBS. same network as I was on as a salaried teacher. I don't know whether to be happy or outraged at this point.
I haven’t dealt with money for supplies going to a for-profit company, however everything else feels accurate. I didn’t get a step increase for 10 years and class sizes ballooned to “as many kids as we can physically fit it a classroom.” They said the student to teacher ratio was 13 to 1 on the website. Yet, my class size started at 24, grew to 26, and then when the district didn’t have enough money went to 32. It wasn’t until the teacher strike did class sizes go down and we got a raise. 🤦🏼♀️
thank you for striking. it is the only way to make things better. i work in programing now and make over triple what i did as a teacher. i would love to go back to teaching but the pay is too low. maybe one day if everyone stands up and fights there might be a chance
In student teaching, I remember having between 35-40 students for some classes. I taught electives, but the financial literacy/adult roles class was required for graduation, so those ones got packed.
@@archaicnymph2977 sarcastic: "yeah bc other countries who have better education systems then us dont have unions"...... oh wait they actually have stronger unions. listen i dont think im the smartest person ever, i suggest we learn from countries doing better than us. if we look around we see stronger unions increase teacher pay and produce happier students and better performing students.
It's true. While I was a poor college student, my living didn't change when I became a teacher because my pay isn't much higher than the amount I got for Financial Aid and being a sub. I was informed my post-bachelors credits most likely will not increase my pay, we have a freeze in pay raise for the next year at least, and I work for a public charter school, so good luck with us not being shut down. So, not the school's fault, and I love this school, but so much is going outside and we are getting the short end.
I’m not a teacher, nor are any of my four children in school anymore but had I seen this when they were in school it would have changed my perception! I’m sorry for how they treat you guys, and definitely it should be fixed somehow because what you do is absolutely amazing! Thanks for making this!
Love this video! I'm a "teacher's kid". Since my mom was a teacher, everyone always asked me if I was going to be one later. They'd usually get the "are you crazy???" look. After seeing what my mom went through for years, no WAY was I going down that path! You have to have a calling to work in that profession, because the only reward you get comes from the work itself (which accounts for only about 10% of the job, once you add in all the bureaucracy). Teachers do not get enough respect for all they do!
Almost missed the damn premiere. Teach! Yo, teach! I’m late because my dog ate my train ticket, and there was a flood at the MRT, and then, what happened was I forgot about the metal detector and I had my “THAT’S WHAT I CALL METAL” CD in my WalkMan, and Vice Principal Priest said we should go think about my mistake and listen to the disc, but I said no, and he tried to send me to the nurse’s office. What’d I miss? What do you mean, do I have a note?
Amen to your truths!! They wonder why teachers burn out! Dealing with this, which is absolutely true, and working 10 other jobs to make up for making diddly squat! You rock! And I appreciate your bravery In telling the truth about teacher pay and how little we are listened to! And if I hear one more person say, “well you get three months off during summer!”.... 😂
I believe that they will try to get us to teach this summer! I've been teaching all year. The kids didn't do the work all year or show up, so why do we need to teach 2 more months of students not doing the work? No one returns the calls or hold the kids accountable. No wonder they are behind.
@@mariaclayton9892 I’m afraid they will push teachers so far that we will all leave the profession. People that are not in education don’t understand. I had the same situation with my students last spring, and it was so difficult to keep a positive attitude. I hope they don’t make you teach this summer! It seems teachers are always making up for the lack of effort in our students. Sad! Hang in there!!
This actually shows there's a problem with government-funded agencies. I believe the whole school system should be privatized same as the post office should be privatized
youre a hero for speaking out... i know that doesn't improve your financial situation or change a darn thing for teachers... yet... keep it up! your voice is important (and so darned hilarious) i respect you, devin
You’ll probably make enough on your UA-cam videos that you can leave teaching, a noble profession that you’ve work years at to do what all of our youth are seeing is the only way to survive and thrive economically.. social media. This country is so screwed when we devalue the most important jobs and glorify something that truly is lot about luck
I'm fortunate to be working here in Canada - where I feel the situation is better. My heart goes out to the teachers in the situations described in this video. Education is one of the critical foundations of a functioning society - Health, Heads, Hearts. We can only hope that the changes occur in our lifetimes.
You are absolutely correct my friend.....and all the while we are raising children, teaching manners, how to follow rules, you name it, and still trying to actually teach....and that doesn’t include the extra curricular things we had to do, all manner of meetings day and night..I was literally verbally attacked my first year teaching at our open house because parents did not think spelling should include dictation sentences which would be graded...oh and right before I left ....you had to leave your computer open and when any parent, grandparent aunt uncle ect emailed u a question you had to stop what you were doing and go answer them....gee then list could go on and on...but I truly loved most of my kiddos....that part I miss...but the rest.....no way.....love your videos u r right on, I can’t even imagine what teaching has been in this year of covid.....teachers are hero’s....
"you had to leave your computer open and when any parent, grandparent aunt uncle ect emailed u a question you had to stop what you were doing and go answer them...." No offence ,but I doubt that is true.
My friend is in school now to be a math teacher for highschool level. Honestly I’m concerned what it’s gonna be like for him by the time he is able to be a teacher. It all just sounds so miserable
Math teacher here. It’s bad. Most seem to look for a way out. Tell him to avoid the headaches. What’s sad is that it COULD be a million times better but I don’t see change coming.
Especially miserable if you are a core teacher. Admin is always on your butt. A core teacher can get around 15 walkthroughs through the year and everyone else like 1 or 2. You really have to love your job to survive. Heads up for your friend his first year will be super miserable, sorry.
First-year math teacher here. I just finished my Credential and working in CA. Depending on the state he lives in will determine the level of headache. In CA, we have a 2-year induction phase at a school that covers almost the exact stuff we did in our credential class. They are all over us all the time. I am lucky to have a great teacher, but I am the only math teacher at the school for high school, so I teach 5 different classes a day (8th, pre-algebra, IM-1, IM-2, IM-3), I will be adding Pre-Calculus to that next year and Calculus the year after. It's exhausting. I love my students, my colleagues, and my job, or I wouldn't be here. It is going to be a lot of work.
Our district payscale hasn't frozen (at least as far as I've heard) but the steps are usually like four or five hundred dollars a year complete with lots of random plateaus where there's no increase planned for four or five years. And health insurance and the amount taken out for pension absolutely keeps going up. We're up to almost 9% of our paycheck for the pension plan on top of payments for social security. And I'm in a well paid district, all things considered.
When I was in high school, I was fully thinking of becoming a teacher. Over the next year, I thought a lot more about it, and decided that I didn't want to get fucked over like the teachers I loved in HS. I feel bad for every teacher now because I know how badly they're treated. I'm only 22 and may one day try to go back to be a teacher if life for them becomes better for them.
Our governor is the highest paid in America but our school board gave the new superintendent more. Then he gave himself a raise the same amount as a new teachers salary. Now he makes more than DOUBLE the governor.
I've always believed teaching should be one of the most well-paying, in-demand, and respected careers in our nation. It's really quite sad how little teachers make, especially considering the requirement to go to University. I make double the average HS teacher's salary here in AL, and I've never passed a single college course.
@@TheAkashicTraveller I'm not sure how that's the case - school systems aren't rolling in money. The US just doesn't spend on education like most developed countries. Same story as healthcare and other public services. To be sure, there are administrators who make significantly more than teachers, but there are very few of them compared to teachers. My school has ~100 teachers and 8 administrators - 4 guidance counselors, three assistant principals, and one principal. Even if we put them all on the teacher's pay scale it would only free up maybe $200k. $2000 more isn't nothing, but it's nowhere near the kind of money required to put a teacher's job in competition with others that require 4 year degrees (or masters, depending on where you live). At the district level there isn't much more to be had either - half a dozen administrators whose pay cuts would be spread over hundreds of teachers.
@@jasonpatterson8091 Actually the US spend more per pupil on education than most developed nations. Here is some data with various numbers but the tend is the same. Schools in the United States spend an average of $12,612 per pupil, which is the fifth-highest amount per pupil among the 37 other developed nations in the Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development (OECD). The amount spent per pupil for public elementary and secondary education (pre-K through 12th grade) for all 50 states and the District of Columbia increased by 3.4% to $12,612 per pupil during the 2018 fiscal year, compared to $12,201 per pupil in 2017, according to new tables released today by the U.S. Census Bureau. On average, the United States currently spends over $15,000 per student each year. New York is the biggest spender, doling out more than $20,000 per student each year,
I don't even have to watch this video. All teachers deserve a raise. After having to get three children into all their classes and get all their crap done in a day, and then sit with them to make sure that they are paying attention and participating in class, or even taking some of that load off of you to work with our kids and hoping that they are even retaining anything at all, I would say yeah. You deserve a big ass raise.
A study on people with a net worth of 1-10 million was done (Ramsey Solutions interviewed ten thousand of them), teaching was the number 3 profession for becoming a millionaire. Good reliable pay, excellent schedule, large portion of year off (secondary income?), excellent benefits, pensions, and very little accountability. Teachers almost never get fired. My wife is a teacher (8th grade math), she works hard and has troublesome classes/students but it’s a sweet gig.
Wow. I taught in a public school district in California and had no idea how good we had it until watching this video. Granted, our raises never kept of with inflation or sky-rocketing insurance costs, but compared to the stuff you're describing, we were being paid as if we were Superintendents. Lol.
Teaching high school mechanics/tech/shop was always my dream job. I actually work along side my favorite teacher in new construction now. He peaced out after getting all kinds of reprimands my junior year. I built a boat for my final project in his class and we didnt wear life jackets in 2ft water. It was a beach high school and the whole class grew up on the water, I was also a certified moving water lifeguard, we were literally under professional supervision. Its been 18 years since that class and we still talk about it when he is on the same job as me.
This makes me happy that I work at a charter school. Even though I make less than most of my regular public school colleagues, it is because we get less money and not because it is mismanaged.
My first district was proud to say that their teachers could not qualify for government benefits. So they were paying us slightly more than the highest amount allowed. Shitty.
I am a college student, and this is just as bad at my college. I have been thinking of solutions to this, but it involves cutting out the board of directors out of funding choices.
If you're passionate, a life long learner, and wear a teflon coating, it can be a rewarding profession. I'm 30 years in, still idealistic, and have reinvented my teaching constantly to stay fresh. Keep being a student of learning how to learn.
Hell yes. The pay is not commensurate with the education required, the FBI background checks, the parental calls ( loved the drunk ones), the moving target expectations of admin, the required standardized lesson plans and the massive time grading and supporting students after the contracted workday is well past. Summers are short, we plan next year in the summer, and during the school year it’s consistently 55-65 hour work weeks.
I hate the whole "knew what they signed up for." I dare DARE anybody who thinks like that when they get a job to tell their boss "look I know what I'm signing up for so don't give me a raise, no bonuses no nothing. I'll take what I get on day 1 because this is what I signed up for" Nobody would agree to that.
I'm support staff. I have reached the point in my steps where ever other year I'm supposed to earn the same for two years. The beauty of yearly contract negotiations through the union means I haven't really experienced that yet. On paper I make great money. What I bring home seems like a contribution from my friendly neighborhood charity.
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I must work in a great district. Each of my 6 years I've gotten a 3% raise. Last year was the first year they froze pay..however at the end of the year we were retro paid what we would have gotten and moved up a step. In addition for the last 2 years we have received bonuses each month. I hear you and feel foe those that don't work in a district as such.
As a 30+ year teacher... this is truth. I encourage people to NOT go into teaching. Day to day, it is miserable. Everyone tells you how horrible you are (admins, parents and teachers). The pay is poverty level -- literally.
The only good part?... about every 5 to 10 years, you have a student come back and say "You changed my life."
It's sad! The professions that deserve the most respect get crap and those that don't (athletes) get all the adoration they want. I'm not hating on sports.. okay the professionals can kinda screw off, but you work 3 months and get paid millions.
I teach in Florida and have had the opposite experience, people are constantly praising me. And while the pay is not optimal, saying that it's poverty level is hyperbolic.
@@jimhunt8834 what district do you work for? Are they hiring? I need to move there !!
@@anubisdo7493 Brevard. And yes, they're always hiring, especially science. The only one complaint I got was on Thursday when I was covering for another teachers class, and I made one of her students wear a mask while I was covering. I was unaware that second graders don't have to wear masks. Had I known that I wouldn't have covered for her. But otherwise I get nothing but praise.
We need teachers. I wish it was better.
I love how our contracts say “.....and other duties as assigned...” which comes with no extra pay but extra stress and more time away from what we need to be doing.
Which in my district now includes cleaning classrooms multiple times a day.
No kidding. Last week an email was sent out asking for volunteers to mentor some at-risk students. I honestly just can't right now. Well apparently no one else signed up so I was one of the lucky few that got voluntold to do it
@@emosongsandreadalongs I am not in education, so I am curious. What would happen if you refused? Would they actually fire you or just chew you out?
@@jamessloven2204 based on my little experience, there would probably be a lot of email reminders and subtle intimidation (using the phrase "this is a condition of your employment," etc.). It really depends on my reaction. If I agree and then never do it, they would most likely just keep reminding me more and more aggressively/annoyingly. If I flat-out said no, they would probably give me a write-up which would go on my record and possibly refuse to renew my contract at the end of the year so I'd have to apply to a different school/district.
From what I've seen at the school where I work, the admins might just let it go but then be sure to give me the worst assignments and refuse to help me out with stuff in the future.
That happened to a friend of mine. They wanted him to be the cheer coach because he did musical theater in college or something. He and his wife didn't feel comfortable with it. He's been on the principal's bad side ever since and she seems to always find ways to passive aggressively screw him over.
Last year he did a pie sale for a club that he sponsors. The principal approved it and then on the day that his pie sale was going to start (right before Thanksgiving) she called a faculty meeting early in the morning and gave every teacher a pie. He swears she did it just to spite him but I don't know
@@jamessloven2204 If they get fired, who cares?!?! From what I can tell in all these comment Teachers don't even like teaching!!
New flash: 90% of people who have to work, DON'T LIKE THEIR JOB!!! Hey everybody, here's an idea if you don't like your job get over it!! Or here's a novel idea... QUIT!!! Go get a new job!
I resigned in the middle of a pandemic, giving up salary and health benefits, bc it is THAT BAD. And it’s *been* problematic in every way he described since I got my M.Ed. and started teaching in 1999.
The pay at our district increases $300-500 each year BUT we have to purchase all our own supplies. I asked for a pack of pencils from the office for a child who really needed them and the secretary sternly told me “we can’t do this for everyone.” They ration printer paper to us like meal tickets during the depression. My office chair broke and they told me I’d have to buy myself a new one 🤦♀️ Y’ALL
Yeah but don’t you get tax write off’s on most supplies you buy?
Yup. And when they freeze pay, you NEVER get that back!
Another thing they do is give you more and more responsibilities without giving you more time to do it...so you end up getting paid the same for more work.
And 99% of the teachers just sacrifice their personal time to get it done, so then that becomes the norm and the expectation. Work-life balance goes out the window. Adequate self-care becomes nearly impossible for many.
Extra work without extra pay or time given to complete happens so often, it's impossible to keep data on the amount of unpaid work REQUIRED b/c there isn t enough time to do so.
@@akc1739
Absolutely! Spot on. The inhumane work load has nearly destroyed me mentally and physically.
This happens in every job unfortunately
Oh, and don't forget all of those graduate classes that you must keep taking, that comes with about 6 hours of homework per week per class, or you will lose your job. When I was teaching, they would reimburse me about 50% of the course credits cost after I finished and received my official credits, but nothing for the books, lab fees, etc. This ended up going on every single semester and often during the summer. If you don't keep up, you end up losing your certification; hence, your job... and will most likely be replaced with an inexperienced and uncertified new teacher who is paid just a tad bit less. Yeah, that's the teaching life in America.
Hell yeah, teachers have a right to complain about pay. And not just the low dollar value. Every time an administration adds a new responsibility on top of the old ones to a teacher's list of daily duties, an increase in pay is required. Otherwise, you may as well be working for free and sitting on the street corner with your empty coffee cup begging for spare change. Not cool, and completely inappropriate for college-educated working professionals who do more good for the world in 180 days every school year than most other people and professions out there do in an entire lifetime.
So true.
Time to protest the admins what are they doing sitting on their butts
Good grief. That happens to everyone. Teachers aren’t special in that instance. Boo hoo, I have to do extra duties besides what I was hired for and I don’t get paid more. Only government workers would think that they are above the problems every other worker in the world has to deal with.
@@penerplemkd7420 teachers get turbofricked in comparison bro
@@penerplemkd7420 The pay is dreadfully low to begin with. Work=Pay. That's the way it should work.
Up until a couple years ago my pay was pretty stagnant. "Times are tough, no raise". Then we took pay cuts to keep insurance for a few years, then the government passed a law where we were required to pay a certain percentage of our insurance which meant we basically got another pay cut. Then the price we paid for insurance went up greater than our 1 or 2 % raised so again we went backwards. So, like you said, compared to inflation we make less now than we did 20 years ago.
Wow. As a twenty-one year veteran teacher...you NAILED IT.
Waiting on the respect and well-being video, my guy. You are cathartic.
Oh no!!! I hope he gets better soon! 😭😂
@@flatbat13 what
“Raises” always come with more days or higher insurance or other such insulting thing
The insurance hikes drive me crazy. And then every time I go to the doctor I confirm that it will be covered with just a copay. Then lo and behold I receive a bill a few weeks later
The biggest argument against teachers is usually the holidays and the hours. Both arguments are a bit bogus.
A full time job has you working ~2000 hours per year (50 forty hour weeks). All told, teachers typically work ~40 weeks per year, assuming we do nothing during holidays or summer break (not true but let's assume.) If there were ever a week out of those 40 when I only did 50 hours of work (i.e. 2000 hours total per year, a full time job) I'd be stunned. Nearly every school day I do 2-4 hours of work at home, take Saturdays off, and then spend 8 - 10 hours on Sundays getting ready for the week. I work a full time job...
I'm happy with school breaks and summers, don't get me wrong. It beats two weeks of vacation a year that my employer won't let me actually take.
Here we have 4 weeks holiday pretty much for all full time employees. Many people work 9 day fortnights. I find it really funny having people who get the 9 day fortnights slinging off at teachers for the long breaks. It is the same number of days.
@@jasonpatterson8091 Damn straight. Contractually we do less but in reality we do more.
@The Snow Nigro many teachers do have seconds jobs 🙄
Yeah we didnt get paid for all of the breaks. Like February recess, we only got paid for that Monday. Spring break: only good friday. And Thanksgiving: only Thursday and Friday; you didn't get paid for the school being closed that Wednesday. And for Christmas, being closed for 2 weeks, only paid for C eve, Christmas, new years eve and new years.
This reminds me of a professor I had in college for English 101 and 102. The first day of class he asked for students who are majoring in English or Education to be an English teacher to raise their hands. He then said something along the lines of: "No offense, but you are making a huge mistake, unless you want to be like me where I have to go to my second job after this and a third job on the weekends, go change your major now before you regret it."
Was he an adjunct or full tenured? Adjuncts are basically contracted teachers that do not work full-time or expected to. Many take up adjunct positions through grad school or when they've retired and want some side income; usually it's like 2 or 3 classes they teach
My art professors said the same thing... They we're right. So my day job is being a teachers aid at a k-12 school. And doing art as my side gig oh and testing websites it's fucking wonderful never having my own fucking life! -_-
@@seanc4501 should it really matter? Adjuncts should be paid a lot more. Also non adjunct existent in the University system these days it's fucked up
I have a Master's degree and can't afford health insurance.
Me too. A masters in Teaching is required in the state of Oregon but I don’t make enough to afford rent at 30% of my income.
@@AtsircEcarg travesty
I was told after I was hired that my Higher education courses (My Post Bachelors courses) will not count towards higher pay due to budget cuts. So, that. Also, Covid caused a freeze in pay, so my colleagues who have been here 2-3 years (we are a newer Public Chater School) and that even when I earn my Masters (which I am nearly done with, so not stopping) that I will most likely not get my pay raise for the Masters.
My mother wanted me to become a teacher. Glad I did not listen.
@@CH-bu6pu Oh, I love being a teacher! I just don't dig the pay.
And the job's not for everyone.
Hope you enjoy the career/job you do choose. 🙂
9 years of experience, two masters degrees and this year was my 1st getting all the way up to 46k. I still can't afford $1170 monthly in insurance premiums for a family of three, but I suppose the salary, and the average 16 hours of unpaid time I put into my job every week are "what I signed up for", lol.
SMH😔😔😔😔😔😔
How could you afford 1170 that’s almost half your check after taxes?!!! 😡
@@inthevault9603 Oh I was recently offered a job in Florida which wanted $1550 monthly in health insurance premiums and with my qualifications was only willing to pay 42k! It was a high-end private school too. Bare minimum housing within a 45 minute radius of the school and health insurance would have been my ENTIRE paycheck.
Teachers aren't fighting for the good life, we are fighting to survive, period.
$1170 is this medical insurance? That’s £845 🤭 I can’t believe how much it costs.
Laura O’Brien And that's after the district paying a sizable chunk. Last I checked my company rates it was $2000/mo paid by my company and $300 by the individual, for a family with 1 or more kids. Teachers have great health insurance so it probably costs even more than the $2300
This is terrible. Thanks for posting this. I looked at the pay schedule for Florida teachers, and after five years it didn’t look bad. But if they freeze your pay then I’ll be making less than minimum wage after taxes. I appreciate you telling the truth.
Probably not going into teaching because of this.
First of all minimum wage is taxed. So, it's not like if you just go work at mcdonalds you'll make more money than a teacher. Comparing pre-taxed to post-taxed income isn't really apples to apples. Approx. $24,000/yr is equal to more that $11/hr. Second, They only work 9 out of 12 months in a year. So re-calculate your math and figure that hourly rate, you get 52*0.75 which gives us 39 weeks @ 40 hours a week is 1,560 hours annually. Now lets take 24000/1560 hours and we get..... $15.38/hr. DOUBLE minimum wage!
With that being said, your failure at EXTREMELY simple math proves you should not be attempting to teach anyone!!
@@jamesdriggers2011 FYI teachers work well beyond their so called hours. As well as weekends a lot of the time bringing that hourly rate back down.
@@TheAkashicTraveller well I'd say that is their fault. Often times teachers feel like the children need more than what the lesson plans have in them. So they spend their own money and time coming up with activities and decorating the room for holidays and themes etc. That's on them. No one asks them to go above and beyond.
@@jamesdriggers2011 In the UK at least they're not given enough time for lesson plans and marking etc. and they change the curriculum every year so that they have to do it all over again. Oh and they need all the paperwork proving it's been done for when ofsted show up.
I taught (resigned this summer) for 27 years, blood, sweat and tears, and every bit of what you’ve said is true! More responsibilities, less time, less money, more restrictions on how you teach, less support for discipline issues, I could go on but need to get online to look for a job, that I’m overqualified for, to support my family and pay for health insurance. 🤣
Blood ,sweat and tears🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Devin, listening to this video is total deja-vue for me. I recently retired as an elementary librarian after 29 years with the largest school district in El Paso, TX. Your detailed comments about the salary schedule are spot on. I'm sorry to hear that other districts in the country mirror the same problems as my former one. I loved teaching and being a librarian, but I don't miss the financial shenanigans and lack of respect we've had to endure. Without sounding saccharine, I truly believe that next to parenting, teaching is the most important career in our society. Teachers and educational staff (minus Central Office types) deserve so much better. On a lighter note, your videos are hilarious and leave me crying with laughter as a former high school teacher. Keep it up; you're a bright light for all of us in the pandemic!!
Everything so true, I specially like the part about the central office 🤣🤣🤣
Hello! I teach in El Paso. Socorro district
Wherever your journey takes you, I hope you keep speaking out for teachers. Your voice is sorely needed in this discourse.
absolutely preaching it like it is!! My retired friends, current co-workers, and even my principal have said they would not recommend for their children to become teachers at this time. It's sad because it's an extremely rewarding career, but things have definitely changed.
This is incredibly frustrating. Not only because teachers deserve respect (can't believe I even have to say that...) but because it is a TERRIBLE long-term situation for our nation. In an age when world power and security are literally determined by how fast we can out think other countries, we don't want to invest in the people educating our future citizens????? It's like bankrupting the military research fund! Our teachers NEED to be the best in the world, the same way we NEED to have the best military in the world. It's honestly a matter of our national security.
Politition don't care about anything past the next election.
Let's also talk about how teachers are expected to take people's gratitude as payment. I don't care how much we're great people, how much parents respect us, or how when Covid hit we became "heroes", those words don't help with my bills. Martyrdom is a big problem in the education world. Yes, I teach because I love it, but I also do it because it's a job. Another argument I hear quite a bit is how teachers get summers off. I do? It's written into my contract that I have to teach summer school- there goes June. I used to spend July planning for the fall so I could stop spending my nights and weekends working, but that happens regardless. We start the new school year August 1. Also-those nights and weekends I talked about got cut a little more in 2019-2020 when our school started Saturday school. Yes. I worked on Saturday. Sunday should have been a day of rest, but instead it's a day of grading and scrambling to plan Monday's lesson. This all would be okay- not great, but okay- if I got paid more than a pittance. If anything it would make a lot of us less bitter.
i'm so sorry Margaret
Agreed. BTW we only became heroes during covid for like 3 months. Then everybody was crying. I'd love to take the "fulfillment" or "respect" (okay that one made me laugh) to target and get my supplies and pay with fulfillment and respect. I'd be laughed out of the store or thrown in a mental ward.
FYI this happens in every job people are passionate about. It's an inevitable consequence of capitalism without strong workers rights.
Good news, I've see tons of now hiring signs up this past year here in the mid atlantic region. Lots of opportunity to get another job if the teaching game is so horrible.
Idk man, I been hearing the martyr song from teachers for decades
My husband is a hight school teacher. We have both talked and talked to our boys about NOT going into the teaching field. Thankfully neither did.
the way i see it, no one should be becoming teachers, because if no ones teaching then they will Have to redo the corrupt system
lmfao that’s depressing i don’t think you had to tell them twice
I wish I could say that this was comedy but this is what acutally happens in schools. You sir are the Teacher verion of Colbert!
I like this guy. Don't insult him by comparing him to Colbert.
Colbert is one of the absolute smartest person in television! Take a look into his background and when he gets off topic from news and you will be amazed at how much breadth he has in his repertoire. (See his talk about how he knew his wife was the one.) He is just as savvy as Jon Stewart. If you read the book about the Daily Show you will also see what an upstanding person he is as well.
@@JillRhoads Colbert is a tool.
Absolutely outrageous for them to do this to our incredible teachers
For some reason the teacher won't just quit. They act like they are slaves to the system when they can just find a different job that has better conditions. That is what I did and I dont regret it. If teaches left the pay would have to improve but they dont and thus there are too many teacher for too few jobs. Its supply and demand.
@@crissd8283 its not really easy to just find a new career, people have bills to pay
@@jaredneff5189 I understand but that is your life choice. If you truly want to change career you will, it may not be easy, but if it really matters too you, you can find a way. Most teaches that complain about the pay, if they could do it all over again, would still become teachers. They love helping kids and they do it for that, not the pay. If they aren't willing to quite over low pay then their pay will remain low. Supply and demand.
@@crissd8283 And then who would tech our kids if they all left for better paying jobs? If the only teachers we had were the ones who couldn't get better paying jobs our education system would be completely broken
@@morganw2492 That is also why we need to get rid of the teachers union. They protect the bad teachers while holding back the good teachers. Raises are all based on years of service and education not actual skill or quality. There are plenty of 2nd year teachers that are better than 20 year teachers. Also the field they teach should change their pay since good math teachers are in demand they should be paid more based on supply and demand.
As a parent and involves citizen I know this to be all to true and it is disgusting. Thank you for making this video and hopefully it will make more people aware of this horrible misconception of "they knew that they were getting into", or in other words it being bullshit. Teacher's have every right to complain about their pay and poor conditions and DEMAND better!!!
Yes!! All of this! My first 5 years...no raise. Step raises frozen and this year we were supposed to get out step raises finally, they blamed Covid, even though our city raised property taxes 34% to help with teacher raises. So no raise for us even though we are working miracles. Now we are supposed to get a laughable 2% raise for next year. Sigh 😔
I have 14 years experience with a Master’s degree...and drive a school bus. Driving that bus is not for fun, that’s for sure...I need that extra money.
Yea that's gross. I mean nobody should have to work 40 hours a week and not be able to survive, let alone someone with a graduate degree and almost a decade and a half of experience especially in a job that's so vital to society.
Masters in what? Education that leads to employment is encouraged and I support. education, tax payer funds a large % of, with little chance of gain full employment should be funded in whole but those who want it and are willing to pay for it. Just my option.
@@chrisv_b she has a masters in Ed.
What ur saying about a viable skill is very true. Esp when the ed is on the taxpayers dime.
@@Tony29103 teachers work 40 hrs?
@@YeshuaKingMessiah No. Much more than that per week.
My mom is a 3rd year teacher and she is miserable and wants to quit especially since her school is 2 hours away from my sister and me.
My father was a high school teacher for 33 years and during his last year of teaching my sister, who was a first year engineer, made more than he did after 3 decades.
That’s when you KNOW it’s bad, it’s like knowing an aphid is much smaller than a tree. It’s quite obvious at that point.
Engineer vs high school teacher. WELL DUH!!!! New hires that haven't even passed PE test yet, can make 6 figures. Engineers build shit that people lives and safety rely on. Bridges, buildings, airports, planes. If they screw up, people die! If a high school teacher fucks up, they just get replaced, or you can transfer to a different class.
Why on earth would you even think they should be comparable??? Oh, right. Stupidity, that's why!!
@@jamesdriggers2011 And how did the amazing engineer who has to build all "that shit" ensuring everyone's safety learned how to build all that shit? If they didn't have amazing teachers who taught them maths, physics etc. they would literally be building shit.
@@carolinalucenarosa1511 at college not in public school
@@jamesdriggers2011 You're an idlot. If that teacher screws up, that bridge engineer later in life is now too stupid to see the difference between the metric system and the imperial system. Puts a up dubious bridge just to have it collapse under the weight of a fruit fly. Without educators, you aren't typing on this platform spewing your asinine takes.
I see now; your teachers failed.
Yes. This is the truth. :( I have a cousin who has been a kindergarten teacher for over 20 years. I love her and I love to teach. I was a 7th grade math teacher for the year of 2006-2007 in Dallas ISD. I went on to get a masters and then got a job in tech, which is essentially to what I still do now. However, before I got my IT remote-friendly job, I was a sub for several years. The connection with the kids made me want to stay as a full time, but when I asked my cousin if I should consider going back to teaching full time, she without hesitation told me not to consider it.
I love when people tell me that teachers should be paid better than CEOs and then vote against tax increases...I teach in Wyoming so...to be honest money is good...right now anyway
I don't know about there, but where I'm at there is excess funds for education. I'm a teacher and I vote against tax increases, because it doesn't matter how many tax increases happen teachers don't make more. 😭 There is so much miss managing of funds, giving them more won't fix the issue. They will just continue to raise district employees pay. In my state we had SO MUCH MONEY in excess funds for education, but they couldn't raise teachers salaries. 😭 So voting to have more money taken away from us and other people to be miss managed? No thank you, I'll keep the money I can get. I will never vote for a tax increase because as a teacher I know how careless they are with taxpayer funds, and I think eventually they need to learn how to work on a budget without taking more money from hardworking teachers and families. The government sucks at money management, it goes everywhere it's not supposed to. So why would we trust them with more? There is plenty of money in education, don't believe that lie. They don't manage it well and pay everyone except for teachers.
The problem is not that there’s enough tax money. The problem is that the tax money is going to honestly stupid and useless things, like gender studies in Pakistan, an extremely conservative country.
@@yellowyosh470 Totally agree Windi. After teaching for over a decade and seeing things from the inside, I stopped voting to raise taxes, fees, etc that were supposedly earmarked to go towards education until I actually saw it really ending up where they claimed, which it never did. It always irked me how some extra tax money would be taken out of my pockets for education, but I'd go back into the classroom every single year being told we'd have to, again, do more with less because of budget cuts. Huh? Were did all of the money go? Well, I've known of administrators who have embezzled large sums of money only to be let go with full retirement packages, if they even went that far. Never any charges pressed or loss of benefits to even the biggest of crooks. Warehouses full of books and supplies that were never touched. All sorts of internal mismanagement from the government all the way to the specific individual school's mismanagement. Principals getting bonus vacations if the students and/or staff had perfect attendance, but none of that finding its way into the hands of the teachers. As you most likely know, that doesn't even begin to scratch the surface of the mismanagement and corruption in all of our school systems, with some being much worse than others. After so many years, I finally quit, and it wasn't even because of the pay. That was just insult to injury, and some of those injuries were literally physical. I wouldn't go back if they offered me a guaranteed million a year. Yes, it's really that bad from the inside.
@@Shinhwachangjo01 No they go to district staff who sit in their office and don't actually teach. It's such a joke.
@@Tony29103 y’all are both kinda right tho... gender studies abroad was dumb. But for local schools they go to district staff that just never do shit
Most every teacher I know has a second job.
OMG is that why my kids don't have a pencil sharpener at school!? Every morning I sharpen their pencils before they leave until my sharpener broke & I was like "Just sharpen it at school" and they both looked at me puzzled. Apparently 1 teacher had said sharpeners are to loud. My son said he had never seen a sharpener in his classrooms. Long story short I sharpened the pencil with a knife that morning.
Interesting and sad. In the UK older, skilled, expensive teachers have been managed out of schools to be replaced with eager, inexperienced younger teachers many of whom leave disillusioned after a few years . They are 'promoted' to positions that are untenable, given too much responsibility without anyone there to guide them. I remember one of my teachers telling me in the 70s that teachers are rarely respected as professionals. There are too many (well paid) managers and not enough teachers 'at the chalk face'.
And that didn't even touch 9n time to salary ratio with all the extra stuff you end up having to do with lunch duty, morning duty, afternoon duty, bus duty, lock downs that last hours past school day.... love the kids and actually teaching hate the BS!
Oh, you mean you have to work in the morning, during lunch, and in the afternoon. Poor baby. You had to work and extra few hours past 3:00. I’m so sorry. I’ll be sure to feel bad for you next time I work 28 hours straight and then work every day without a day off for two weeks.
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You really aren't aware of how many hours teachers have to put in after school ends are you?
@@mikecollier7732 Not to mention all of the many things that must be done that cannot, nor is even allowed to be done, while the kids are in the classroom. You know, like grading, preparing materials for classroom use, writing lesson plans, creating excessive amounts of visuals that are required to junk up every classroom, bulletin boards, contacting parents, etc., etc., etc...
Actually I am aware. My wife is a teacher my mom was a teacher my aunt was a teacher my grandparents were superintendent and teachers I used to have to help My mom after school and there in the summer. And you know what I never once saw her working from 8:00 in the morning to 8:00 in the morning the next day The fact of the matter is you're a bunch of whiny cry babies and you don't like it when somebody calls you out on
Damn i didnt know they did teachers this wrong. I have no degree from a college and this is jist crooked.
There’s a lot more that they do wrong.
Perfect!! You nailed it to the wall. Keep up the good work, Mr. Siebold. Teachers everywhere appreciate your efforts.
Yeah... the US has a reputation that they not kind to their public school teachers.
That’s why we need vouchers. Public schools are so mismanaged it’s disgusting . They all deserve double pay. Pay for performance is not reality, always a few bad, lazy apples. I thank all teachers but the upper administration in most teacher unions are crooks!
@@annedon776 If you read about Uk teachers, there are also major pay issues and shenanigans gallore. It's not just the US. Though I agree, it's bad in some states here.
I’m a student ... I feel like I need to give my teachers more love now
Thanks for doing these, Devin. I'm a proud teacher but acknowledge that we get shit on pretty much every day.
I remember the year they gave us a pay increase, but then more than doubled our staff meeting/PD time so that we actually made less per hour the following year.
I'm a young educator, and if teachers can't make a decent wage, what should be done about taxes? Because it seems like no matter how high they get, nothing changes. I do not want to vote for more taxes to come out of my paycheck if money is only going to the ones up top. Do education departments report how much money they receive from taxes and where EXACTLY state money is going?
In most states, money comes to systems FROM the state and the Fed. The money comes with stipulations as to how it can been spent and/or on what it can be spent.
@@chandrajenkins9773 Stipulations intended to make sure it's not wasted instead actualy cause it to be wasted on the buracuracy that's supposed to be ensuring it's not wasted.
This is exactly what happened to my pay. 33 years and I can't retire because I can't afford the health insurance.
😱😢
Sad but true!
Same
You probably qualify for the expanded Medicaid now. I quit teaching full time and started subbing. When I tried to buy health insurance they told me I qualified. It's provided by BCBS. same network as I was on as a salaried teacher. I don't know whether to be happy or outraged at this point.
I haven’t dealt with money for supplies going to a for-profit company, however everything else feels accurate. I didn’t get a step increase for 10 years and class sizes ballooned to “as many kids as we can physically fit it a classroom.” They said the student to teacher ratio was 13 to 1 on the website. Yet, my class size started at 24, grew to 26, and then when the district didn’t have enough money went to 32. It wasn’t until the teacher strike did class sizes go down and we got a raise. 🤦🏼♀️
thank you for striking. it is the only way to make things better. i work in programing now and make over triple what i did as a teacher. i would love to go back to teaching but the pay is too low. maybe one day if everyone stands up and fights there might be a chance
In student teaching, I remember having between 35-40 students for some classes. I taught electives, but the financial literacy/adult roles class was required for graduation, so those ones got packed.
Yep, bc they waive the max class sizes every year!
@@gnova7 maybe get rid of the union so good teachers can be rewarded and bad treachers will be remvoed from the system
@@archaicnymph2977 sarcastic: "yeah bc other countries who have better education systems then us dont have unions"...... oh wait they actually have stronger unions. listen i dont think im the smartest person ever, i suggest we learn from countries doing better than us. if we look around we see stronger unions increase teacher pay and produce happier students and better performing students.
It's true. While I was a poor college student, my living didn't change when I became a teacher because my pay isn't much higher than the amount I got for Financial Aid and being a sub. I was informed my post-bachelors credits most likely will not increase my pay, we have a freeze in pay raise for the next year at least, and I work for a public charter school, so good luck with us not being shut down. So, not the school's fault, and I love this school, but so much is going outside and we are getting the short end.
I don’t know where you teach. Things aren’t quite as bad in my district/state, but I can relate to a lot of what you said.
I’m not a teacher, nor are any of my four children in school anymore but had I seen this when they were in school it would have changed my perception! I’m sorry for how they treat you guys, and definitely it should be fixed somehow because what you do is absolutely amazing! Thanks for making this!
Preach that shit brother. So true, this sounds like my district.
You are my hero, hands down (and a funny one - even more rare today - a funny hero!!!)
I love you so much. Thank you for being a clear voice to say, "THIS IS NOT WHAT YOU THINK IT IS!"
One of the reasons I tell anyone who wants to teach, "Run Forest Run!"
I knew you had to have taught, your jokes are too on point!
I am one of the many support staffers. I am leaving in May. They won't let me leave early. I have to complete my contract unless I am dying. lol
Just found your videos. Finishing my undergrad education degree and deciding whether to go on for an MT. this is helpful info, thanks!
Love this video! I'm a "teacher's kid". Since my mom was a teacher, everyone always asked me if I was going to be one later. They'd usually get the "are you crazy???" look. After seeing what my mom went through for years, no WAY was I going down that path! You have to have a calling to work in that profession, because the only reward you get comes from the work itself (which accounts for only about 10% of the job, once you add in all the bureaucracy). Teachers do not get enough respect for all they do!
Almost missed the damn premiere. Teach! Yo, teach! I’m late because my dog ate my train ticket, and there was a flood at the MRT, and then, what happened was I forgot about the metal detector and I had my “THAT’S WHAT I CALL METAL” CD in my WalkMan, and Vice Principal Priest said we should go think about my mistake and listen to the disc, but I said no, and he tried to send me to the nurse’s office.
What’d I miss?
What do you mean, do I have a note?
Amen to your truths!! They wonder why teachers burn out! Dealing with this, which is absolutely true, and working 10 other jobs to make up for making diddly squat! You rock! And I appreciate your bravery In telling the truth about teacher pay and how little we are listened to! And if I hear one more person say, “well you get three months off during summer!”.... 😂
I believe that they will try to get us to teach this summer! I've been teaching all year. The kids didn't do the work all year or show up, so why do we need to teach 2 more months of students not doing the work? No one returns the calls or hold the kids accountable. No wonder they are behind.
@@mariaclayton9892 I’m afraid they will push teachers so far that we will all leave the profession. People that are not in education don’t understand. I had the same situation with my students last spring, and it was so difficult to keep a positive attitude. I hope they don’t make you teach this summer! It seems teachers are always making up for the lack of effort in our students. Sad! Hang in there!!
This actually shows there's a problem with government-funded agencies. I believe the whole school system should be privatized same as the post office should be privatized
youre a hero for speaking out... i know that doesn't improve your financial situation or change a darn thing for teachers... yet... keep it up! your voice is important (and so darned hilarious) i respect you, devin
Devin, Devin, Devin,.... I ALMOST forgot the truth you're telling...
You’ll probably make enough on your UA-cam videos that you can leave teaching, a noble profession that you’ve work years at to do what all of our youth are seeing is the only way to survive and thrive economically.. social media. This country is so screwed when we devalue the most important jobs and glorify something that truly is lot about luck
This channel is a breath of fresh air. I’m not alone!
I'm fortunate to be working here in Canada - where I feel the situation is better. My heart goes out to the teachers in the situations described in this video. Education is one of the critical foundations of a functioning society - Health, Heads, Hearts. We can only hope that the changes occur in our lifetimes.
You are absolutely correct my friend.....and all the while we are raising children, teaching manners, how to follow rules, you name it, and still trying to actually teach....and that doesn’t include the extra curricular things we had to do, all manner of meetings day and night..I was literally verbally attacked my first year teaching at our open house because parents did not think spelling should include dictation sentences which would be graded...oh and right before I left ....you had to leave your computer open and when any parent, grandparent aunt uncle ect emailed u a question you had to stop what you were doing and go answer them....gee then list could go on and on...but I truly loved most of my kiddos....that part I miss...but the rest.....no way.....love your videos u r right on, I can’t even imagine what teaching has been in this year of covid.....teachers are hero’s....
More than likely asked a question unrelated to learning and making an excuse why their kids didn't do any work in the first place. I'm so sick of it.
"you had to leave your computer open and when any parent, grandparent aunt uncle ect emailed u a question you had to stop what you were doing and go answer them...."
No offence ,but I doubt that is true.
My friend is in school now to be a math teacher for highschool level. Honestly I’m concerned what it’s gonna be like for him by the time he is able to be a teacher. It all just sounds so miserable
Math teacher here. It’s bad. Most seem to look for a way out. Tell him to avoid the headaches. What’s sad is that it COULD be a million times better but I don’t see change coming.
Especially miserable if you are a core teacher. Admin is always on your butt. A core teacher can get around 15 walkthroughs through the year and everyone else like 1 or 2. You really have to love your job to survive. Heads up for your friend his first year will be super miserable, sorry.
First-year math teacher here. I just finished my Credential and working in CA. Depending on the state he lives in will determine the level of headache. In CA, we have a 2-year induction phase at a school that covers almost the exact stuff we did in our credential class. They are all over us all the time. I am lucky to have a great teacher, but I am the only math teacher at the school for high school, so I teach 5 different classes a day (8th, pre-algebra, IM-1, IM-2, IM-3), I will be adding Pre-Calculus to that next year and Calculus the year after. It's exhausting. I love my students, my colleagues, and my job, or I wouldn't be here. It is going to be a lot of work.
@@joshuafurtado2415 he’s looking to work in IL. Though i don’t think that would be too much better.
just tell him no
Telling it like it is. This is why I only work as a teaching artist with schools now.
You are so exactly on the money.
People have no idea
Our district payscale hasn't frozen (at least as far as I've heard) but the steps are usually like four or five hundred dollars a year complete with lots of random plateaus where there's no increase planned for four or five years. And health insurance and the amount taken out for pension absolutely keeps going up. We're up to almost 9% of our paycheck for the pension plan on top of payments for social security. And I'm in a well paid district, all things considered.
When I was in high school, I was fully thinking of becoming a teacher. Over the next year, I thought a lot more about it, and decided that I didn't want to get fucked over like the teachers I loved in HS. I feel bad for every teacher now because I know how badly they're treated. I'm only 22 and may one day try to go back to be a teacher if life for them becomes better for them.
🤣🤣🤣 The accuracy
Our governor is the highest paid in America but our school board gave the new superintendent more. Then he gave himself a raise the same amount as a new teachers salary. Now he makes more than DOUBLE the governor.
I can't wait to watch the next one!
I've always believed teaching should be one of the most well-paying, in-demand, and respected careers in our nation. It's really quite sad how little teachers make, especially considering the requirement to go to University. I make double the average HS teacher's salary here in AL, and I've never passed a single college course.
The difficulty is that there are too many of us and we're paid by tax money. Nobody votes to see their taxes increase, plain and simple.
@@jasonpatterson8091 There's plenty of money already it just gets wasted on the bureuacratic side.
@@TheAkashicTraveller I'm not sure how that's the case - school systems aren't rolling in money. The US just doesn't spend on education like most developed countries. Same story as healthcare and other public services. To be sure, there are administrators who make significantly more than teachers, but there are very few of them compared to teachers. My school has ~100 teachers and 8 administrators - 4 guidance counselors, three assistant principals, and one principal. Even if we put them all on the teacher's pay scale it would only free up maybe $200k. $2000 more isn't nothing, but it's nowhere near the kind of money required to put a teacher's job in competition with others that require 4 year degrees (or masters, depending on where you live). At the district level there isn't much more to be had either - half a dozen administrators whose pay cuts would be spread over hundreds of teachers.
@@jasonpatterson8091 Actually the US spend more per pupil on education than most developed nations. Here is some data with various numbers but the tend is the same.
Schools in the United States spend an average of $12,612 per pupil, which is the fifth-highest amount per pupil among the 37 other developed nations in the Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development (OECD).
The amount spent per pupil for public elementary and secondary education (pre-K through 12th grade) for all 50 states and the District of Columbia increased by 3.4% to $12,612 per pupil during the 2018 fiscal year, compared to $12,201 per pupil in 2017, according to new tables released today by the U.S. Census Bureau.
On average, the United States currently spends over $15,000 per student each year.
New York is the biggest spender, doling out more than $20,000 per student each year,
I'm of the "you signed a contract, deal with it" camp. But I never knew they ignored their side of the deal, seems like a potential lawsuit roght?!
I don't even have to watch this video. All teachers deserve a raise. After having to get three children into all their classes and get all their crap done in a day, and then sit with them to make sure that they are paying attention and participating in class, or even taking some of that load off of you to work with our kids and hoping that they are even retaining anything at all, I would say yeah. You deserve a big ass raise.
You need a better union! I teach in Washington State and most of this is not a thing. Most.
We are a right to work state and due to a teacher work stoppage in the 60s we cannot strike or we lose our certification and pension.
His eyes scary me with the ring light
Wow I didn't know it was this bad. I'm glad you're getting the word out!
A study on people with a net worth of 1-10 million was done (Ramsey Solutions interviewed ten thousand of them), teaching was the number 3 profession for becoming a millionaire. Good reliable pay, excellent schedule, large portion of year off (secondary income?), excellent benefits, pensions, and very little accountability. Teachers almost never get fired. My wife is a teacher (8th grade math), she works hard and has troublesome classes/students but it’s a sweet gig.
Wow. I taught in a public school district in California and had no idea how good we had it until watching this video. Granted, our raises never kept of with inflation or sky-rocketing insurance costs, but compared to the stuff you're describing, we were being paid as if we were Superintendents. Lol.
This is the terrible truth. You have to post this video everywhere!!
Teaching high school mechanics/tech/shop was always my dream job. I actually work along side my favorite teacher in new construction now. He peaced out after getting all kinds of reprimands my junior year. I built a boat for my final project in his class and we didnt wear life jackets in 2ft water. It was a beach high school and the whole class grew up on the water, I was also a certified moving water lifeguard, we were literally under professional supervision. Its been 18 years since that class and we still talk about it when he is on the same job as me.
This makes me happy that I work at a charter school. Even though I make less than most of my regular public school colleagues, it is because we get less money and not because it is mismanaged.
The whole 'they knew what they signed for' means that if you follow that career path, you will be treated as shit. It wont get any better :-/
until my daughter was five years old, me my husband and my daughter we’re all eligible for government benefits because I made below the poverty line.
My first district was proud to say that their teachers could not qualify for government benefits. So they were paying us slightly more than the highest amount allowed. Shitty.
@@phoenixamazon haha same! I make 100.00 above what I would need to qualify for government assistance. 😭
I am a college student, and this is just as bad at my college. I have been thinking of solutions to this, but it involves cutting out the board of directors out of funding choices.
You make a brilliant youtuber/Influencer and advocate for our noble profession which has been severely undervalued.
Preach!
Makes me want to change my mind...😶
If you're passionate, a life long learner, and wear a teflon coating, it can be a rewarding profession. I'm 30 years in, still idealistic, and have reinvented my teaching constantly to stay fresh. Keep being a student of learning how to learn.
And it is worse for support staff! I barely make minimum wage and see every kid in the school.
Yes
It’s criminal
Hell yes. The pay is not commensurate with the education required, the FBI background checks, the parental calls ( loved the drunk ones), the moving target expectations of admin, the required standardized lesson plans and the massive time grading and supporting students after the contracted workday is well past. Summers are short, we plan next year in the summer, and during the school year it’s consistently 55-65 hour work weeks.
I say the same thing about wounded veterans, "They knew what they signed up for."
I hate the whole "knew what they signed up for." I dare DARE anybody who thinks like that when they get a job to tell their boss "look I know what I'm signing up for so don't give me a raise, no bonuses no nothing. I'll take what I get on day 1 because this is what I signed up for" Nobody would agree to that.
Your videos bring joy to my groundhog days in teaching.
I'm support staff. I have reached the point in my steps where ever other year I'm supposed to earn the same for two years. The beauty of yearly contract negotiations through the union means I haven't really experienced that yet. On paper I make great money. What I bring home seems like a contribution from my friendly neighborhood charity.
Amen brother, but no one but teachers seem to give a ****.
1.5k views and 163 likes 👍. Click like and share. 🥳 I love his material and he deserves a massive audience.
Thanks for ALWAYS posting super great stuff 💜💜
Man I'm learning how much nurses and teachers have in common from your videos.
I must work in a great district. Each of my 6 years I've gotten a 3% raise. Last year was the first year they froze pay..however at the end of the year we were retro paid what we would have gotten and moved up a step. In addition for the last 2 years we have received bonuses each month. I hear you and feel foe those that don't work in a district as such.