Death of a Game: The Sims Online
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This random guy used to constantly invite me to cyber-sex parties. I told him I was only 12 years old and asked him to please stop inviting me. He reported me for not being old enough to play the game and I got permanently banned.
Sounds like The Sims Online alright, lol.
The wild wild west
Well he did you a favor to be honest lol
If there's an age requirement to play a game then you can't play it, I'm sorry.
Some spaces are adult spaces.
@@Tengokuchi
"Adult spaces"
>Rated T game
i wanted to play this game SO BAD as a kid, but it was already dead before i finally got my own debit card
@@jamesd5767 nah its just parents at the time do not believe in the age of technology.
Well not for this game but I wanted to play games like Asheron's Call, Everquest, Age of Camelot, City of Heroes but these games released when I was youngster with no job and no money. Parents would not cater these kind of desires so I skipped all games what was not be able to play singleplayer.
@sziklamester1244 I was so extremely lucky to have much older brothers with disposable incomes. Even though our internet access was very limited, I got to experience so many MMOs because of them.
@@BogusMeatFactory Lucky for you then and at least experienced some of these games before they went offline. Depends aswell on the region but usually in Europe - eastern europe most countries was poor and usually you had only option to get a game when you got pirated from third party. The one legal games I got was games from magazines I liked in that time but my parents does not let me to buy them too often. Sadly my dad's mentality with games is poor and lacks of understanding it's another kind of art and entertainment.
He does not likes aswell when I buying games even I have now my own income and spending only on this habit alone. Hard to explain to him what he get free is something others worked for it. I can see it as player and developer aswell even I am not a developer yet.
Yeah but when TS2 came out, I wasn't interested in playing Online anymore let alone the original TS1.
EA Land sounds like the most hellish theme park in existence.
It'd be like the Warhammer to Disney's Star Wars in terms of how insane the prices would be. I bet you have to pay money to leave the park too.
To be honest EA at that time was a synonym of success, they decayed too much
It dose exist its called Disney land
It also had an INCREDIBLE reputation for being a den of pedophiles. As a young teenager, I was constantly being pestered by older people asking for pictures and contact details for messengers outside of the game in order to get around the chat filters.
This made me sad
Goddamn that made me sad. The sims community always seemed like the less creepy ones. Sorry you went through that.
Sorry you had to learn it the hard way, but if you ever have kids, at least you will teach them not to advertise their age in an online game. Right?
It was the wild west back then. I thought putting my birth-year in my name was cool. BIG MISTAKE lol. Lessons learned, which I certainly pass on to the youngins'
A lot of those "social games" had this problem and still have. IMVU was the same.
Today they all hang around on VR Chat.
I can't believe you managed without mentioning the myriad of in-game scandals and drama, that further tanked the reputation of the game. Like the brothels, the mafia and the pedos.
The what???
The "underground" scene got rapidly out of control. And more trouble then it was worth
Basically. There was nothing to do in-game. And it was marketed to kids. So who's going to stick around a kid's play space that doesn't have anything for kids to do? It ends up being Logan Paul trying to sell Prime to a pedo dude dressed as a girl.
@@PoProstuBoniaczYeah online games need good moderation.
@@PoProstuBoniacz Theres a video on it, goes really in depth
Because of the skill houses, I remember reading someone refer to the game as Sim Sweatshop.
lmfao
TSO was a bit overly ambitious for an MMO in 2002. I played it a little bit and it was essentially Sims 1 with a chat room feature and no mods. The modding scene is really what made the Sims popular because you could download 1000s of outfits, game changes, etc.
There were definitely mods. There was a mod that replaced most clothing and everyone I knew playing at the time had them installed.
@@aubre_singsyeah those mods were wild
True, TS1 only with the expansions was very lacking.
Dude, "The Sims Bustin' Out" was my first Sims Game. It still special to me, it's one of the few games that my sister and I enjoyed playing together!
My grandma loved this game she kept the original box till this day she would rant and rave about friends she made playing from Europe
Great topic! I was obsessed with the sims as a teenager and I always wanted to know what happened to the sims Online. I was so looking forward to it but it mysteriously disappeared.. Thanks for helping me understand why.
I’m in the ‘didn’t realise there was a Sims Online game’ camp, interesting video though.
Also, a series well known for its AI and NPC’s removing it all when going online and expecting/hoping that players pick up the slack? Sounds familiar.
Except even Fallout 76 didn't get rid of every NPC; Just the human ones. Not saying that was a good decision, but it's not entirely the same situation.
Child me bought this game without understanding what online meant. Cause I was dumb. As a result I never actually played this game, but it's probably lying around somewhere.
Fascinating to learn about it all these years later.
I love your 'Death of a Game' series. I've only played one of the early Sims games and didn't know there was an Sims Online game.
I was in the beta. I posted on their forums that their game was nowhere near ready for release. It's sort of weird that they jept changing the game for the worse with every patch. The game was strangely addictive during the early phases if beta.
From what I remember, Sims Online was an over glorified chatroom. Within a week I was already married to some stranger who was probably a guy playing a female avatar and maxed out in skills. I quit, uninstalled and went back to Star Wars Galaxies and Dungeon Keeper 2.
Star Wars Galaxies? I see you are also a person of culture.
Making a simple box house filled with the cheapest oven was always a great past time
Great video! I think one of the biggest things rhe sims online was missing, is also Conflict. It wasnt a pure social online game, so having conflict in some shape would make the game more compelling. In the case of the Sims Online, there was no NPC bad guy and no GM generated conflict. The sims was all about drama and conflict generated by interactions with the npcs. If their goal was to expect players to create that conflict.... yeah no... thats a bad idea because then it becomes very personal.
It's funny that the Sims is online currently but only in a warped curse Monkey Paw wish way, where it's single player but with always on authentication
Beta tester speaking. The "social incentive" was a multiplier to activities. Basically they made grind unlivable unless a full house/server of 16 people all did the same activity together at once. You got speed or money bonuses per player on the same activity in the same house. So a whole house would Study for intellect until they got red meters, then eat / bathroom, then basically another shift of the money making version of that skill. Wash rinse repeat. With a chat window. It was weird and boring but the "host" houses got famous and were generally chill. They got some of the in-game money you spent on food or whatever so they had all the best gear.
You could do solo activities but it's a game like WoW without guilds. Or whatever. Just kind of aimless and slow and few rewards.
When you got tired of the grind. One guy set up an empty lot with some beach chairs and a soda machine. You could go complain about life and how boring the game was and he'd just kinda go "yep". And it was kind of refreshing like a middle finger to the game design. And he got the money from the soda. So it was like Patreon for TSO ASMR? At one point I think he quit. So I actually recreated his lot for a while. I wanna say that got deleted when the beta went to release or something? I kinda quit playing at that point.
And yeah, when the game is that empty. The only people still sinking time into it were like pedos trying to solicit kids to meet them offline or other chat services to get around filters.
Or the skill houses were kind of incestuous and if you didn't behave optimally or didn't agree with the host you could get booted. People get catty and weird when they have all the power. And skill houses had ALL the power. They were basically cubicle farms. And cubicle farm was the most profitable job in the entire game. So it was either cube farm to get paid, or roleplaying on a Sims themed chat room without any money or skills. Not much in between.
Kinda wish I had soething to show for my "founder" trophy item I got when the Beta closed. But since EA's Sims is kinda DLC garbage hell. No thanks.
Note this is all personal recollection so some details could be off. But it was my impression as a (cough cough underage) Beta Tester.
Just hearing you say "Maxis" made me feel nostalgic.
I’m not a big fan of MMOs but I am a lifelong fan of casual simulation games like The Sims franchise, and I never understood the concept of having a multiplayer/MMO Sims game. Maybe it’s my lack of experience with MMOs but it feels like the concepts just don’t gel together. The way I play the Sims and many other life sim games is very family focused. I love making my Sims crank out babies and watching those babies grow. Other players often like creating and populating neighborhoods, orchestrating stories with all their sims, causing drama and chaos in the lives of their sims, etc. All this requires having multiple sims, potentially even multiple families of sims, and a level of control over the world and the sims in it. I feel like an MMO Sims game would be more frustrating than fun, with random people wandering into your intricately built soap opera storyline and ruining your plot.
yeah like... i could see multiplayer if it was like "share your save with a friend and build shit and do stuff together" kind of like stardew and so, but an mmo? i used to play wizard101 as a child and now im playing ffxiv for the first time, and with how the biggest draw for the mmo side are roleplay, doing dungeons/raids together and having all of these people fight together and pvp i just don't see how that translates to sims in any capacity
Sandbox MMOs are the exact right fit for Sims. Doing everything you'd already be doing in Sims. Just in a shared online world where you interact with other people. It's not a hard concept to fathom. Just look at Star Wars Galaxies and Ultima Online. Or even larger Minecraft, Rust or Conan Exiles servers
@@DoctorEviloply Like I said, I’m not really a big MMO player but I’ve never heard of any MMOs where you can raise children and actually have them grow up and become PCs. I know there are plenty where you can have companions but I don’t know of any where you could have entire families or towns full of npcs.
@@DoctorEviloply Having the world be persistent and having to interact with others would likely just take away the player experience too. Like would you be able to kill off certain townies or kidnap them and force them to live in your specially prepared doomsday bunker (I was going through some things as a teenager) if they have to exist for other players to interact with as well?
@@thelittleredhairedgirlfrom6527 Every single sandbox MMO I've played either disallows you from doing anything to essential NPCs or doesn't have them and relies on a player driven economy so I don't see how that'd be a problem.
You invoked so much nostalgia in me... I was there in the sims online... I was in a Mafia and we use to "tag" people like a mob hit... I tried playing on a private server after the shutdown but it wasn't the same.... This is always when I imagined the "metaverse" being. This is my favorite sims title ever and I wish they would bring it back in some way
Imagine if they made your sim into the NPC when you were offline and other players could interact with it and see when it became a player again. How neat would that be to login and see that your sim developed a relationship with another player while you were away?
I remember buying this game when I was a kid asking my mom to get it since she was ok with me playing The Sims games compare to usual video games like Diablo 2 and stuff like that. When I got it and got home I remember reading the box and it said subscription required. I knew then I won't be able to play it since my mom didn't trust putting out credit card numbers over the internet for things. It took forever to convince her to let me play world of warcraft.
The fact that Will Wright thought this was the logical point for The Sims to come to baffles me. I would never want to play the Sims online...But, maybe that's just me.
This implementation? Yeah garbage. But a logical endpoint for The Sims? Absolutely. Imagine if it worked and there was a whole online simulation of life. I can see it.
I was a loyal Sims fan up until the third game. I spent way more hours building my dream houses then I’d like to admit. But, by the time the Sims 4 I had moved on. The game, never really changed or evolved, also, the sheer cost of the DLCs was honestly too much. As for the Sims Online. I didn’t even know this existed. 😂 I guess I wasn’t paying too much attention to online games back in 2002. Until I started playing Final Fantasy XI that is. Here’s to another gaming history episode for posterity. Thanks for this video. 👍
One of my earliest memories was being a polar bear that worked at a pizza palace to pay rent at a 7 roommate apartment, and later being asked to cater a wedding. Real sobering game for a 13 year old lol.
nerdSlayer going from the biggest most publicized AAA games to a random MMO from the early 2000s and I’m here for it
This video makes me expect the Metal Gear Online later after hinted next case
"The Sims is a Sims-like game." No lies spottet.
EA Land sounds like something I would gnaw my arm and leg off to get away from..
Games as a live service 15 years before it’s time
I remember playing this game for a brief window when I was like, 13. It was only my third MMO after a brief stint messing around in the color wars in UO, and dying repeatedly in Blackburrow in Everquest, lol. I enjoyed it, but I did notice even at that age how aimless everything felt. The whole game was basically just grinding skills in a visual chatroom.
My brother quit it pretty fast and went back to Ultima Online, and I eventually tried SWG and never looked back. My sister played it a bit longer, but even she went back to UO after long.
Never even knew there was a Sims online
I played the sims online when I was 10. I logged hundreds of hours on it, I had a beta tester version through my dad. I got married to a Sim in a Hawaiian shirt. We ran the second-most popular location in the game. These years later I realize how creepy that was...
Within the Sims community, very few are hopeful of the Sims 5. It being the most Multiplayer orientated out of all the Sims games is even a point of contention. The general consensus is that most people who play the Sims, don't want Multiplayer. I think if the Sims 4 is/was a better offering, people wouldn't be as bothered. Sims 4 would continue as the single player game while Sims 5 fills the online void. But, Sims 4 is still one of the weakest titles and EA's practice of cutting as much as possible out of the game to just resell it as paid DLC later has frustrated players to absolutely no end.
But, it (Sims 5) being Multiplayer at all is questionable as Maxis (Or whatever is left of it's corpse) have said Sims 5 will be the most mod friendly sims game to date. By definition that means Multiplayer wont happen. *OR* by Mods, they just mean outfits and UI and things that get sold in game. Similar to what Roblox does.
I’ve definitely seen a minority of people who seem to want a multiplayer Sims game, but I agree that the vast majority don’t. Like he said in the video, the Sims is in many ways a God game, and I don’t see the appeal of having less power, less ability to customize the world, and having random people just show and start fucking my sim’s wife and leaving dirty dishes all over the house.
They absolutely mean cosmetics and UGC, the gaming publishers are envious of Roblox making billions without needing to invest very much of that revenue back into the game. With Fortnite’s push towards that niche getting it 40 million players on one day, it makes sense EA will chase that.
I remember checking this title out exactly once. I even hesitate to call it a game. I created an avatar, and found there was really nothing to do but visit one of these skill houses, where I parked my avatar at a station and watched a bar full up slowly. There were no active elements. There were half a dozen people on the lot, but only one was chatty - I'm guessing the lot owner got money for having other Sims grind there. After a few sentences about sports and weather the conversation died. I logged off and uninstalled, never looking back.
I'm curious about your pronunciation of simoleon though. Some people don't realize it's a preexisting word, slang for a dollar or money in general, with a lot of recorded use at the end of the 19th century. From what digging I could tell, it seems like it was a portmanteau of the existing slang 'a simon' meaning a dollar coin, and 'a napoleon' referring to a French coin.
there are a lot of failed online versions of your favourite 2000s games that nobody remembers
I remember seeing the ad for Sims Online on the back of almost every Sims 1 CD case I had and being obsessed with how cool it looked. My parents wouldn't let me get it though. Crushing as an adult to see how much it actually sucked.
Something I loved in...forget if Sims 1 or 2, you could have many instruments on a lot. One sim could start playing, then others join in, and it actually worked. Eight pianos? Sure! One piano and 7 guitars? Great! Then they removed the join music feature from later games, and my band roommate games became obsolete.
Great video, I never realized The Sims Online was running for so long. I really thought it was a short lived game lol. I think I only got to play this game when it went free to play and my only memory was working in a factory for my job and went to someone's house. It was also hard to play online too due to being on dial-up and a lot of people in my house wanting to use the phone.
Also went to a friends house and he had the Sims on the OG Xbox, and I had no idea it had local coop. We spent our 2 day weekend from school to play that game for hours, it was a lot of fun playing socially with someone else. But after that weekend, we felt like we did all that we wanted and never went back to playing it lol.
It'd be great to see The Sims 5 incorporate more Multiplayer elements.
I'm a massive Sims fan and if done right it could be a massive project. I keep speaking to all my Sims friends about the ability of being able to play with them online. Visiting their houses, forming relationships, etc. Maybe just simply forming our own neighborhood would be a dream. The Sims Online was a weird game. Didn't feel like a robust online experience. Too many gameplay issues to work. Remember really hating it and just going back to inviting my friends to my house Sims 1 and playing together on the same screen.
This game was such a blast I remember the house wars we had as well. Where people would come to other ppls houses and make it so they couldn’t come in, then just fight, tombstone power bombs etc…if you fell down or refused to continue fighting you lost and we all made fun of them. It was so wild, cause it was the sims why was there fights in the sims outside a business 😐
I think Sims could be a awesome co-op game. Closest thing is a Sims 4 multiplayer mod called Simsync that let you play with friends in the same household controlling our own characters. It's buggy, but it is what i want in a Sims co-op game.
Edit: Didn't know Sims Bustin' Out had a multiplayer mode xD
The made Sims 4 offline when Simcity crashed and burned thanks to multiplayer.
It became a chatroom with chores.
Which was actually really cool for its time. The video can make TSO seem like a hollow social experience but so many of us were thrilled to have a virtual chatroom. Chatrooms were incredibly popular and being able to chat while playing a sim character was a next level experience for a lot of players.
There are a couple indie devs jumping into the life sim genre-- I'll be interested to see how they do but also if EA responds by not ruining Sims 5 like they did with 4. I am guessing they're going to ruin it though and prob try to make it a live service to pump people for more money.
I've really grown to hate the live service model. With EA behind it, it would be extra exploitative.
Personally, I'm following the indie alternatives. They look pretty promising, and I'd be willing to jump ship and go to them over the Sims if EA botches TS5
The Sims 4 (The Sims Olympus) was supposed to be multiplayer, but it's design changed when SimCity 2013 failed.
A half backed bare bones online game with grind? Now that´s a new concept, I never heard about something like that before!
Kinda sad that the gaming industry is making those mistakes for over two decades now...
Those aren't mistakes, those are features. Put the minimum amount of funding into making the game playable while hyping the hell out of it, get a bunch of subscribers right out of the gate, then incrementally improve the game so they don't cancel their subscription. If money is the primary goal, an enjoyable game can only be secondary at best.
I actually persuaded my parents to buy this for me, however they didn't want to pay the monthly fee, so what I was left with, was a very cool box and a lot of unanswered questions
I digged around a while back regarding The Sims Online. Even managed to interview 2 people that played the original and still active on OpenSO (Or FreeSO? I don't quite remember what the fan revival project's nane is)
I would like to add that its biggest downfall wasn't the costly monthly price, but the release time. The avalability and the horrid (lack of) moderation.
Second life came right after, showing how and what it could have turned into.
Also the pedofile problem
1:41 The music and visuals on the title card here make this feel like an unusually chipper and lighthearted DOAG.
The Sims ain't strugglin I guess
Spot on. For me, the style of gameplay coupled with the box cost and monthly cost wasn't worth it. I was just getting into MMO's at that time and "Everquest Online Adventures" on PS2 came out a year later which got me hooked on MMO's and finally managed to get my friends and I to pay a monthly fee.
You should start with a "death of a video game franchise" And start with the SimCity one, when Paradox and their Cities Skyline killed off the last SimCity game. And thematically continue with The Sims series. Now when Paradox coming out with their own, superior I will say, Sims styled game. And with Sims 4 is a microtransaction hellscape and Sims 5 will be even more so
great point
I discovered the Sims offline game in my 30's. Somehow i very much enjoyed building and letting my sims do their silly things. Soon after, the Sims online got released and the world opened up to me! I've met people all over the world! Around 2004, we heard about a new online game, Second Life. Suddenly there was a exodus in Sims and we switched en masse to SL. And i think that's what killed the Sims. Oh man, in SL anything was possible, no restricting in building. You could make anything, just by learning how to shape the building cubes. Soon, whole cities and places rises, whatever your fantasy, you could create it. You could personalize your own avatar and amazing avatars appeared, and with that very mature animations were developed as well. It became a huge dating platform. I specialized myself in building jewelry, i started a shop. What's interesting is that game money can be exchanged for real money. And to this day I am doing very well in the world of SL. I still have great memories about Sims tho. Without them I don't think I would have ever discovered SL.
I remember seeing a few advertisements for this as a kid, i think one was a video on the deluxe edition of The Sims and i always wanted to play it but my family was too poor to afford an internet connection and by the time i had an internet connection it was already dead. Cool concept.
the music hits so hard! xD nice vid keep going!
crazy how i went my whole life as an avid Sims enjoyer who played literally every iteration since the first, and NEVER heard about there being an online version available.
Sims Online was my first MMO as a teen and I still remember my parents shock at the subscription bill. I wonder how many other titles had these implemented at the time? Happy new year!
This is one I've been waiting to see
Today I learned The Sims Online existed
Never had even an inch of interest in any of these games but I enjoy your videos so I shall watch. 🍿
My wife and I both preordered this and played at launch. We were so excited. It quickly became clear that the only thing to really do was stand at a station and try to make money. It got boring really fast. We didn't play past our free month.
Fascinating video, happy new year.
I play The Sims 1 'til this day for constructing and fun reasons. Some elements there are still ahead of anything else from the franchise because you can build a functioning cinema or drive-in cinema in Downtown. I think the reason why the online version became so neglected and unpopular is mainly because the main-players there became toxic little misfits that banned anyone who even dared to do something out of the box. That makes it very probable that criminals from around the world gathered at one place where they could just front anyone.
ppl threw a fit against sims 4 being an online game when it was in development, not bc we don't want an online sims game, but bc we all knew it would be full of even more paywalled content - the fact that they paywalled the actual working game behind additional dlc content instead of releasing a game that actually plays as a game says enough
I remember playing this and you could “sell” someone else’s paintings they made and get cash if they didn’t sell them yet. So I did, and then everyone in the server got pissed, kicked me out of their homes, and bombarded me with threats.
I guess you could say that it was my first experience with cancel culture 😂
That was a clip at 5:40 of black and white. I loved that game
The Sims always felt like an inherently single player game to me, online Sims is just strange.
I always wanted to try it, I was especially jelous cuz Sims Online had several buildings with multiple floors, something impossible in classic game... but when I found out it was pay game, not role playing, no visiting your neighbours etc... well, Im glad I never touched it
There is a great video by Danerade about Plants V.S. Zombies where he quotes a dev saying that EA wasn't the whole problem and that they gave creative freedom, enough rope to h___ yourself with. I can imagine this is a very similar story.
This is an exact quote I've given on stream from my source lol.
Bro idk how many time i was super depressed and emailed the sims creators suggesting a sims vr or online type of deal for people to have a real escape
I'm surprised to see a video on the sims online. Has more in common with games such as Habbo Hotel or Club Penguin than a regular mmo.
They are still virtual worlds
Fantastic video!
Can you do a video about S4 League? I loved that game and I'm so curious to know What Happened? love you channel!
I remember this. They used to advertise the crap out of it. Could have shown there was some like expansion pack. That was just a punch of extra bits. Near the end that they tried to push. Kind of like what they did with Spore. Which you can't play anymore. Unless you have a cracked copy and even then. You have the fun of the game was seeing other players worlds and settlements.
I think the devs severely over estimated the willingness of the users to role play with the severely limited tools they were given. Almost no one made any effort of doing the things that were in trailers or ads, i.e. running a nightclub, diner, etc, and every house you saw was basically a grinding mill for money. I remember there were even those giant lawn chess pieces in game that your Sim would have to actually pick up and move around and I never once saw anyone actually engaging with that. Second Life basically ate this game's lunch by having the ability to actually create anything right out of the gate and by first and foremost calling itself a social space and not "Game, but Online". The few people who actually tried to roleplay and do what Will Wright and the team probably intended jumped ship immediately when SL came out.
WOOT He said Ashron's Call!!!! I love that game.
If the Sims 5 ends up being multiplayer, I wonder how EA will handle modding/custom content. It's really the only reason I think people even play Sims 4 but there's still a huge Sims 3 community as well due to 4's lack of content even with it's crap ton of updates/packs. Without Mods I don't even think many people would touch it.
Indeed, there would be a significant decrease in touching without mods... 😉
Even Sims 2 still has an active modding community
I remember seeing this game on magazines and wanted to play so much, sadly it never came into my country
Man I was literally thinking about this game a few days ago so I wanted to check what happened to it and then this video shows up immediately. Kinda weird honestly but much appreciated :^)
I miss this game so much. I played it a lot in 2003.
I played it for about three years and I miss it too. It was my first MMO, and it totally ruined me for any games that don't have other actual humans in them. Some of the coolest things were things that the players came up with, like "painting" house roofs (rooves?). People would use all the different floor coverings on the second floor to make a "painting". Some of them were truly amazing and detailed, like the face of Marilyn Monroe. Some people would "make a living" by going around the city and designing roofs for people.
I Never accidently "burned down my house". I removed the ladder with a smile on my face as a kid.
Pumping videos out I like it keep it up
sims 5 being a free online game is going to KILL the franchise... most especially if any other sim like games going out within this year are gonna be good. And personally i'd be very glad of that reinforcing my point that EA killed SO MANY licences that i loved. I wish they just get out of business one day.
I would like to see you cover Mythgard sometime:)
I was never really into the Sims, but I did play it for a little bit like 15 yeas ago.
Omg you showed a property I help mod on here, super cool.
I played FreeSO a fair bit a few years back, and it's honestly fantastic. It pretty much is just Sims 1 with people around, and it was really chill to just sit around and talk to people while increasing your skills and helping others increase theirs. Decorating your house and having people come visit it was fun too!
Honestly, I don't know why more people don't look back at Sims Online as an example of what a multiplayer Sims would look like and why it's not a bad thing. The game had its flaws, obviously, but I think it lays a good foundation for what we can expect from a future multiplayer title. The same old Sims everyone knows and love, just with people around to enjoy it with instead of purely AI.
One nice thing about TSO: modders could port some of its objects (like big slot machines and a safe) to The Sims proper.
If EA is related to a project . The death is always related to EA
You should do a video on the death of Defiance. That game had such potential and was fun back then
And to this day they still are trying to make a mainline sims online game, ngl, super worried about sims 5 considering its what messed up sims 4.
Another MMO I've never even heard of. Those are always intriguing to find more about
Played alot if TSO but it was a huge time sink. Had alot of aventures but towards the end it got flooded by real money traders, hackers & spammers both nsfw & sfw made me abandoned it
I personally really don't want an online/multiplayer mainline Sims game. Knowing EA, it'll be always online and be riddled with microtransactions. I also love modding the heck out of my games, and it being online might make that difficult.
Could you do a video about order & chaos online?
You'd think the typical Sims gameplay loop would work perfectly for an online game. Having to balance your various needs in an open world MMO would force players to actually engage in various aspects of the Gameworld that they may otherwise just ignore. It's funny how they literally took away the best aspect of the gameplay loop... Coming to think of it, a traditional MMO that had a "needs" feature similar to The Sims would be pretty cool. Imagine if in WOW you actually got hungry etc etc..... It would force players to go out and participate in the world rather then just hanging around capital cities spamming global chat.
TSO actually did require fulfilling hunger, hygeine, and the rest. We used to call it "greening", as in, "I need to green up, give me a minute". Also sometimes talked about how we had to green our humans (I.e. go get a snack, etc.)
I would really like to see a video on Kingdom Under Fire 2.
This was ahead of its time low key this walked so vr chat could run
I played TSO in its very early days - also had the beta (alongside my "Simmy" furniture piece) and I enjoyed it for what it was - there were several big "wipes" before the official launch of the game. Unfortunately it was just too "grindy" - spending time working on skills (the more you earned the faster they would decay) or trying to make money (gnomes anyone?) - I do recall that initially the pizza machine was the most popular money making object, and then the codebreaker machine became the go-to for easy cash - even back then the economy had problems. Getting kicked out of the house because I could not dedicate enough hours in the day to be online made it feel more like a chore than a game. I ended up cancelling several months after the beta ended.