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  • Опубліковано 19 лис 2024
  • In today's video I will talk about why you SHOULD NOT update to macOS Sonoma!
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  • @Johnmike
    @Johnmike  Рік тому +4

    www.production-expert.com/apple-macos-ventura-audio-compatibility-chart

  • @DojoOfCool
    @DojoOfCool Рік тому +9

    Great advice. I worked as a SysAdmin for years and eventually got back into recording and because of my SysAdmin background I was the IT guy for the Media department. Basically never update a production computer unless the update has a fix your sys has to have. Then if possible build a test computer like your production system and test the update on it before ever installing it on a production system. As John Paul said.... If it ain't broke don't fix it. It's a good policy for home computers too. Enjoy your working computer having to rebuilt production computers are a major pain, not only the rebuild process, but all the people yelling at you "when are you going to be done???" every five minutes.

  • @DetlefRecktenwald-Healing
    @DetlefRecktenwald-Healing Рік тому +5

    I purchased beginning of 2023 my first Mac , OS Ventura. Running Ableton Live and lots of plugins, I just upgraded to Sonoma and I am happy I did, Ableton runs faster as it was in Ventura. During my time on windows, I had a lot of headaches. I learned with windows, never run an old computer, hacking the system to make it work.

    • @pranayraj7130
      @pranayraj7130 Рік тому

      I updated to Mac os 14 and my logic is crashing when I turn on flex pitch .. any suggestion please

  • @OmarAhmed-rg2ii
    @OmarAhmed-rg2ii 11 місяців тому +6

    Yes, Sonoma Draining battery like crazy, I regret upgrading it.

  • @williamshaneblyth
    @williamshaneblyth 9 місяців тому +1

    I have a 2011 macmini been going well in Bitwig bit its stuck at Catalina. Ive been thinking of getting a new mini M series for last year or so then I saw a company was selling a Macstudio M1 Max and was over $500 cheaper than the M2 which really isnt much faster Id never notice but the point is I saved a ton of money and it came with Ventura NOT Sonoma which to me was a big plus as I knew the audio drivers worked for my Fantom 0 and other gear with no issues so save money if you can buy one step back and get one step back in the OS at the same time. win win. cheers bro

  • @erickchrys
    @erickchrys 6 місяців тому +1

    If you are on a project and you update major OS version e.g. 12 - 14, you are creating additional project of optimising whatever was working fine before. It is okay to stick with the same OS version for even 3-4 years enough time to trade in new laptop. Just upgrade minor versions e.g. 12.5 - 12.7

  • @tandoorimoori
    @tandoorimoori 11 місяців тому +21

    I saw this video too late. I updated and now my macbook 2023 has all sorts of problems

    • @lukefotografia
      @lukefotografia 11 місяців тому +1

      The same here 😩

    • @mairissvigers6981
      @mairissvigers6981 11 місяців тому +3

      I updated my Intel 16 Mac to Sonoma 14.2 and it is not charging plugged in, and restarts randomly. I literally can't use my Mac for work now. Trying to find a solution for last two days.

    • @morenrgy
      @morenrgy 10 місяців тому

      GOD DAMN 5K$ MACBOOK M1 WITH A TON OF PROBLEM, FLSTUDIO STOP PLAYING RANDOMLLY, CAN'T STREAM MUSIC COZ OBS CAUSE CRACK POPS, ABLETON GOT RANDOM CRACK AND POPS, WHEN FL STUDIO IS OPEN AND ABLETON TOO... AGAIN CRACKS AND POPS, I FUCKING HATE CRACK AND POPS ON MY FUCKING 5K$ COMPUTER FxCK APPLE FOR REAL
      Ok now i'm calm, the problem is tha tnow we got this fucking orange microphone icon on the top who litterally fuck everything, damn i hate this icon, and i hate apple for being dumb like that, litterally pc that cost 1K$ can do stream + music without any problem and me im fucked... That really crazy DON'T UPDATE THIS SHIT AND WHY NOBODY IS TALKING ABOUT ALL THIS FUCKING PROBLEM EVEN THE ROSETTA THING WITH PLUGIN COMPATIBILITY IS DAMN TRASH? ANALOG LAB TAKE 5 FUCKING MINUTES TO OPEN ON ABLETON(not just ableton) GAD DAMN WHY NOBODY IS TALKING ABOUT THIS ?????????? I HATE YALLLLLLLL (Sorry i had to say all that coz im really upset like u can see ...)

    • @tandoorimoori
      @tandoorimoori 10 місяців тому

      I found a solution. Check out the video titled "Downgrade from macOS Sonoma to Ventura on M1 & M2 Macs! (3 DIFFERENT WAYS!)" from Mr. Macintosh@@mairissvigers6981

    • @tandoorimoori
      @tandoorimoori 10 місяців тому

      I found a solution. Check out the video titled "Downgrade from macOS Sonoma to Ventura on M1 & M2 Macs! (3 DIFFERENT WAYS!)" from Mr. Macintosh @@lukefotografia

  • @helloken
    @helloken Рік тому

    It's really simple, really GOOD ADVICE that a lot of people will ignore. I've gone through many situations where upgrading 'because newer should be better!' is just simply not true if it doesn't work as intended!
    Came here after getting a new M1 Mac Mini and loaded Sonoma on it thinking may as well start clean with the latest OS. It's been having a lot of issues especially when connecting external drives. So much so that it suddenly cut power while a spinning hard drive powered by the USB port was connected, causing it to de-power, the repower up within 1 second (that can't be good for a classic spinning HDD). If the HDD is dead it would sting a lot due to the data loss because of course, I haven't backed up like the silly person that I am...
    The thing is I should of known this, but my old Mac is just humming along for years and years on Mojave (at least 4+ years old) and I'd forgotten that new releases of MacOS have been quite buggy in the past (I had a terrible experience with an old build of Leopard 10.5.0 for example that was largely fixed by 10.5.2 or so).
    Don't update unless you need it for whatever reason or you don't depend on your computer to be stable and predictable. Now this is never a guarantee, but less likely to have issues on older and more mature software.

  • @IAMBLUSH
    @IAMBLUSH 8 місяців тому

    Thank you for this!! I’m about to get the M2 Mac Studio and needed to know which OS to have installed!! 🎉🎉

  • @MikeCoren-z7l
    @MikeCoren-z7l 11 місяців тому

    This is great advice! Always make sure your mission-critical software is compatible before updating the OS. I always wait until at least the ".1" OS release if I can, for both the OS vendor and the software makers to work out the kinks. Thanks for making this video!

  • @cesarq6011
    @cesarq6011 6 місяців тому +2

    Great Vid John! does this still apply today May 2024? Or should i keep waiting?

  • @BoomDocs14K
    @BoomDocs14K 9 місяців тому

    Great video and thanks for your time creating this. Today, I bought a Mac Mini (M1) strictly for DJ use with Serato. I have 16 GB of memory and 2 TB of SSD storage. I just checked the Serato release notes that say it's compatible with Sonoma OS. I'm not sure what OS the Mac will ship with being that I bought it Apple Refurb. Hopefully jumping straight to Sonoma is the right chess move! Thanks again for your insight!!!

  • @TheBasketproductions
    @TheBasketproductions Місяць тому

    I've learned from a long time ago not to upgrade any OS without confirming my current audio hardware is compatible...
    9/10 there will be no be a huge issue and a compromise to upgrade the OS without the current technological change... ie... Upgrading past Monterey and your not using a M1/M3 architecture Mac... You will not be able to utilize all the functionality... if you ever will depending on how long Apple will support said " Hardware " / " Software "

  • @rlwhite68
    @rlwhite68 10 місяців тому +1

    I wish I would’ve saw this yesterday my Native Instruments product is trash right now

    • @OfficialStevenCravis
      @OfficialStevenCravis 8 місяців тому

      Kontakt version 7.6.1 also on its own caused big CPU Spike problems. Any version 7.7 and above are good.

  • @fivechordmusic
    @fivechordmusic Рік тому

    Thanks for the advice. Production Expert is my go to as well. cheers !

  • @DameunLoops
    @DameunLoops 21 день тому

    y como se puede volver a una version anterior?? de tu macOS .?

  • @fantaztikbeatz
    @fantaztikbeatz 2 місяці тому

    I purchased a Mac Studio it came with Sonoma and its buggy af I'm gonna have to downgrade. Thanks for the link brother!

  • @Fon92i
    @Fon92i 2 місяці тому

    Hello. I buy iMac with sonoma. My mpc studio doesn’t work anymore. Is there a solution? No more money to buy new mpc studio2. 🙏

  • @bobbyjimenez4482
    @bobbyjimenez4482 Місяць тому

    Mine in an unsupported macbook pro 2104 was on ventura after awhile upgraded to sonoma but it created problem with WiFi and Bluetooth
    .. So have to reinstall all over again to downgrade.... Never again to upgrade to the latest version esp if the unit not new.....

  • @danteenlasnubes
    @danteenlasnubes Рік тому +1

    too late. I can't open Logic Pro x or garageband. im kllg myself...

  • @Quiz2passGoal
    @Quiz2passGoal 5 місяців тому

    I guess when Anki says Need a new version 12.1 or older🤔. Big Sur vs Sonoma. All confusing. I just want to log on and do what do.

  • @alfredoistic
    @alfredoistic 6 місяців тому

    Mac OS X Public Beta (Kodiak): September 13, 2000
    Mac OS X 10.0 (Cheetah): March 24, 2001
    Mac OS X 10.1 (Puma): September 25, 2001
    Mac OS X 10.2 (Jaguar): August 24, 2002
    Mac OS X 10.3 (Panther): October 24, 2003
    Mac OS X 10.4 (Tiger): April 29, 2005
    Mac OS X 10.5 (Leopard): October 26, 2007
    Mac OS X 10.6 (Snow Leopard): August 28, 2009
    Mac OS X 10.7 (Lion): July 20, 2011
    OS X 10.8 (Mountain Lion): July 25, 2012
    OS X 10.9 (Mavericks): October 22, 2013
    OS X 10.10 (Yosemite): October 16, 2014
    OS X 10.11 (El Capitan): September 30, 2015
    macOS 10.12 (Sierra): September 20, 2016
    macOS 10.13 (High Sierra): September 25, 2017
    macOS 10.14 (Mojave): September 24, 2018
    macOS 10.15 (Catalina): October 7, 2019
    macOS 11.0 (Big Sur): November 12, 2020
    macOS 12.0 (Monterey): October 25, 2021
    macOS 13.0 (Ventura): October 24, 2022

  • @sgtbetter
    @sgtbetter Рік тому +1

    Hello from Down Under John :) Quick question, often when we're prompted to update, things start getting wonky in Logic if we don't, what then?

  • @Ocho474
    @Ocho474 5 місяців тому

    I have the new mcOS Sonoma update and now I have issues trying to use Studio One 5, I keep getting this yellow dot on the top right corner or screen saying microphone but studio one has access to the microphone already, what a nightmare 😮

  • @tkey23
    @tkey23 4 місяці тому

    my Mac is so slow after the Sonoma update what can I do about this or should I just go a version back?

  • @Alexandra-iq6vi
    @Alexandra-iq6vi 4 місяці тому

    Hi, this video was 11 months ago, have you now updated to MacOs Sonoma? When would be the best time to update the software on a Mac before it starts getting glitchy and not working at all? I currently have MacOs Big Sur 11.7.10, which was the last Big Sur made and supported. If you hopefully reply to my comment, thank you in advance.

  • @felixftp9670
    @felixftp9670 Рік тому

    Mhh, I was randomly updating to sonoma. I have the feeling my plugins loading a little bit faster. I'm using ableton. No issues at all.

  • @libertariancapitalist
    @libertariancapitalist 11 місяців тому

    I just pulled my Mac mini M1 out of the closet. It’s running Monterey and I was wondering if I should update to Sonoma. I’m not sure if I should, I edit videos every now and then using iMovie and haven’t had any issues.

  • @markimmedia5325
    @markimmedia5325 7 місяців тому

    I'm struggling having an issue when I connect my Maschine MK3 as a sound interface I cannot turn the System volume up/down somehow I'm using 12.01 montery mac OS 2020Apple suppoet said I have to update but I have a Cracked LOGIC ProX does it make sense to update I'm worried about logic pro

  • @sourcefor
    @sourcefor Рік тому

    Why does My session sputter when I first start it up and try to play, could it be Kontakt?

  • @neglectedloves
    @neglectedloves 3 місяці тому

    Thanks for the video and I have always been a latest adopter... could you tell me if Sonoma is bug free by now or at least almost? Thanks 🙌🏻

    • @Johnmike
      @Johnmike  3 місяці тому +1

      @@neglectedloves I’m on Sonoma on my Mac Studio and all seems to be working fine

    • @neglectedloves
      @neglectedloves 3 місяці тому

      @@Johnmike thanks a lot for your quick response 🙏🏻

  • @pranayraj7130
    @pranayraj7130 Рік тому

    Hey , i updated to mac os 14 and my logic crashes everytime when i turn flex pitch.. should i update logic pro also ? What should i do

  • @ChrisMaverick34
    @ChrisMaverick34 9 місяців тому

    Ventura or Monterey ?

  • @Logik195
    @Logik195 Місяць тому

    Hello, can I ask you, I just got my Mac 16 pro 2019 (I know it’s kinda old), can I ask you what system is better for this mac Sonoma, Ventura or Monterey? Thanks!

    • @Johnmike
      @Johnmike  Місяць тому

      @@Logik195 I’m on Sonoma and all is working well

  • @Quarantus
    @Quarantus 10 місяців тому

    Thanks man!

  • @devincallen1257
    @devincallen1257 Рік тому

    damn bruh, I need izotope, and they didn't update it yet for Ventura, that's mad frustrating so idk if I wanna lose those plugins just for this update.....

  • @ScottAlec-jf9qi
    @ScottAlec-jf9qi 11 місяців тому

    Hey John so I am still running on Catalina 2019 I believe. I am scared to death to update my Mac but I keep hearing that Kontakt 7 needs an updated MacOS 11 or something and that my plugins should be fine. What should I do ?

  • @itsurguy7756
    @itsurguy7756 6 місяців тому

    More reason why you should become a hybrid music producer or just stay mostly analog with the use of audio digital convertor. Also I have told people that the new concept of these digital suppliers is that they will start discontinuing support for their older hardware devices, software and force you to buy their latest hardware device with the latest software. So, if you had the audio analog hardware devices you would not have had to replace it for years. In the long run you will have spent a lot of money on upgrades. And guess what, your software that is not supported is something that you can't hold in your hand and neither is it something to sell become it's just digital 1s and 0s. My advice it to stay analog as much as possible and don't get caught in the digital software trap.

  • @dbbias1416
    @dbbias1416 10 місяців тому

    Thank you ❤

  • @beatprocess
    @beatprocess 3 місяці тому

    Any update

  • @brandoncrenshaw
    @brandoncrenshaw Рік тому

    Love the boca on this video bro. I thought you used a green screen.

  • @revp01
    @revp01 Рік тому

    Correct. Good advice.

  • @michaeltraudt7372
    @michaeltraudt7372 Рік тому

    let's get real data. reach out. I think your passion counts- and we can make some benefits.

  • @augnickdutta3091
    @augnickdutta3091 Рік тому

    Is arturia's interface and midi s are compatible with sonoma

  • @zakaroonetwork777
    @zakaroonetwork777 10 місяців тому

    I Screwed the Pooch. Is there a way I can Reformat my Intel Mac mini to an Older operating system? Sonoma is Glitching out all my Apps. I just wanted the new Sampler in Logic, But now Im getting TAL sampler. Apple ruined my Music Career in the 90's When I was using Cubase on a Power PC Clone Mac. Updated to os 8 and the computer self destruct. Apple Strikes again.

  • @Casaaaaandra82
    @Casaaaaandra82 8 місяців тому +1

    Thanks i saw this late😅😅😅😅

  • @thwelly
    @thwelly Рік тому

    Real Update to Ventura .... or better to complete reinstall everything on Ventura? I'm on Monterey.

    • @filbgyibcfyjechik3612
      @filbgyibcfyjechik3612 Місяць тому

      celan install with usb driver is always better, but u have to save all your data on external drive cause it will erase all of your stuff

  • @ohcacestpastresgentil8462
    @ohcacestpastresgentil8462 2 місяці тому +1

    watching this video while installing sonoma on my macbook pro 2012 lmao help

  • @black_baron_net
    @black_baron_net Рік тому

    ☠BLACK BARON☠0:48 ... this said ... all fixes are made in the latest and greatest 13.6 Update with all performance improvements, security improvements and no more software and iCloud and Sync glitches ... at the END of a long long long OSX development cycle ... till the NEXT "Infinite Loop" cycle begins with "So No Ma?"

  • @Gem-Ex
    @Gem-Ex Рік тому +1

    Basically just stick with Monterey or Mojave. You're welcome.

  • @prodby.wxv3
    @prodby.wxv3 11 місяців тому +1

    AGHGHGHGHGHGHG IM ON SONOMA

  • @elijahmatthew5270
    @elijahmatthew5270 10 місяців тому

    Sonoma almost broke my MacBook Pro

  • @staysmuth
    @staysmuth 8 місяців тому

    rip to my google drive gang that updated to Sonoma

  • @shmk1
    @shmk1 7 місяців тому

    I stuffed up an upgraded, logic is now a crash fest 😂 joy

  • @ivaj2010
    @ivaj2010 Рік тому

    ATENCION!! ,Cubase 12 pro , NO FUNCIONA CON macOS Sonoma,

  • @hoodieindahood
    @hoodieindahood 8 місяців тому

    I lost the possibility to use everything because of this upgrade lmao TOTAL SHIT!

  • @veritas7010
    @veritas7010 10 місяців тому

    I've made the gravest mistake , it's true. Sonoma is pure trash especially on intel, simply performance wise. Don't ever upgrade if you got intel

  • @docdigit4639
    @docdigit4639 5 місяців тому

    ua-cam.com/video/gbMYXwUmmfw/v-deo.html
    For installations on 2008-2017+ Macbooks

  • @richshafiee
    @richshafiee 7 місяців тому

    crack user ?
    😅

  • @DSMuzikProInc
    @DSMuzikProInc Рік тому

    Don’t know why you have to keep saying this every time 😂

    • @Johnmike
      @Johnmike  Рік тому +1

      Lololol Eggsactly lol

  • @JonniArmani
    @JonniArmani 11 місяців тому

    Sanoma is a dog-

  • @Mr.Zen_73
    @Mr.Zen_73 Рік тому

    Sage advice!

  • @kartickgupta4118
    @kartickgupta4118 3 місяці тому

    Thanks man 🙏🏻