Thanks for a great show. I really enjoy and appreciate your insights and experience. Ultimately, isn't it the players that that have the power, it is their game that has attracted the money and attention. What about the majority of young tour players that are not the elites, what if they collectively flip off the PGA Tour and boycott? I know they need work for their living but I am just surprised there hasn't been more push back from the players.
Great segment as always. When I compare the coverage on ESPN+ where the golf is featured with minimal blabbering by the wordy hosts, that is what most fans want. McCord and Feherty brought humor, Peter was great with his swing analysis. Johnny Miller was priceless with all his choking comments😂😂😂. More golf shots, more stats, less blabbing by the people that bring nothing to the broadcast. I know the players would not like it, but they should play US Open venues every week. If the winning score is better than -9, the course is too easy. The US Open winning score of -5 should be the standard for all courses and Tournaments
I have worked with PEs for the last 23 years and i can tell you that SSG will have a 3-5 year time line for return on investment. Once you reach year 2 if there is no ratings turn around then the cash dries up. At that point SSG dumps its interest in the pga and sells to LIV
I also believe why PGA viewership is down is because of the announcers. They have become milk toast. When you guys were on the air, it was fun and funny. You wanted to hear the stories that were being told. Now it’s just dull. I also know it’s not the announcer’s fault. They are being held back or fired if they cut loose.
I’m convinced the PGA is waiting for LIV to cut their loses and shutdown. Even if this does happen, the PGA Tour will never be the same. The damage is already done.
@@cleveland2022 if LIV can’t make money they can’t survive, it doesn’t matter who is backing them. Are they making money? I have no idea if they are or not, but there is no way they have recouped the investment in the players yet.
I spoke to a Dutch TV commentator and he said the players on LIV really don’t like the format and the lack of professionalism and will ride out their contracts and won’t resign. PGA tour is in no hurry to make LIV credible.
Ratings are down due to lack of Tiger. Love him or hate him, back in the day you had non golfers watching when Tiger played, those people no longer watching.
Things will change when SSG demands PGA provides a legitimate plan that will provide return on their money or else they are pulling out their money. PGA cannot afford that so that’s when PGA will be forced to pull the trigger and make major changes to PGA that will have to include LIv players. Hopefully it’s replacing uninteresting, non signature events with combined, PGa and LIV player events. Also they would have to dump OWGR and have a fair rating system that will allow Liv players to qualify and compete in Majors. TGL is another silly season-like event that won’t garner loads of fans because of its premise-fancy mini golf. Even Tiger’s involvement won’t draw interest if it’s senseless irrelevant golf. I’m with Peter as Im not interested in it.
Signature events are a waste of time. they ruined the rest of the tourneys. Canadian open is a joke of a tourney now. all events should be full field. every player should be required to enter every tourney over a five yr period. imagine if scotty and rory come to quad cities
Abram ... Producers are usually heard and NOT seen ... Try harder please... The name is Kostis and McCord for a reason ... Sorry but I am not alone here ...
Disagree. Abram’s is responsible for creating Kostis and McCord podcast. We should thank him for bringing us the most legitimate golf talk show with two people that have decades of golf experience, and objective, common sense comments that other podcasts just cannot provide. You need a straight man to set up the two stars.
I agree. It will be a nothing burger. No one is gonna be watching that. Part of the fun of watching a great Tournament is the course itself. i can go to a simulator if i want to watch a computer screen
Would Scottie have won as many if he was competing with the guys on LIV? He doesn't really have a top player weekend and week out, the PGAT made sure of that!
I've stopped watching golf on TV, don't know any of the players, and it takes too long, and worse, the announcement is terrible, seems they all have an agenda or special players they are promoting instead of just calling the play. Where's Johnny Miller when we need him. No one commentating on the actual process of winning, just schilling fir someone it something.
I’ve been watching your videos for quite some time. All due respect to you guys, you have it all wrong. TW was an anomaly, a once in a lifetime (or 2) bump in the ratings for golf. Once his playing career is over, golf on tv will go back to exactly the same niche sport it was before he burst on the scene. Golf doesn’t (and never will) have the mass appeal to justify the purses being offered by the 54 league. If golf is in disarray, it’s all on those who left. All because the king and prince of all d-bags decided they were above the PGAT and were too good to play with 50-125 on the money list. Golf is not about the top 30, it’s about the competition, the courses, the tournaments.
More people watched the Creator's Classic than have ever watched a LIV event. LIV is literally Brooks, Bryson, Rahm, and Cam Smith. That's it. That's the list that people care about. DJ, Reed, Sergio, Phil are all washed. I don't mind seeing those guys only 4 times a year. Even Soccer has multiple leagues globally. The Prem, Serie A, Bundesliga, La Liga, MLS etc.
GREAT SHOW GUYS, BEST SHOW EVER! Loved the story Gary! The shows just keep getting better.
thank you Joe!! appreciate it!!
Thanks for a great show. I really enjoy and appreciate your insights and experience. Ultimately, isn't it the players that that have the power, it is their game that has attracted the money and attention. What about the majority of young tour players that are not the elites, what if they collectively flip off the PGA Tour and boycott? I know they need work for their living but I am just surprised there hasn't been more push back from the players.
I thought you guys LITERALLY fell off your rockers !!! 😂 I’ve been waiting for this fellas. Thanks for sharing the best show on the WWW
thank you Cam!! appreciate your thoughts!! Please subscribe and share with your golfing friends
Great segment as always. When I compare the coverage on ESPN+ where the golf is featured with minimal blabbering by the wordy hosts, that is what most fans want. McCord and Feherty brought humor, Peter was great with his swing analysis. Johnny Miller was priceless with all his choking comments😂😂😂. More golf shots, more stats, less blabbing by the people that bring nothing to the broadcast. I know the players would not like it, but they should play US Open venues every week. If the winning score is better than -9, the course is too easy. The US Open winning score of -5 should be the standard for all courses and Tournaments
Another informative and hilarious show. I still remember that Dryjoy commercial.
The problem is tiger..he wants to control the PGAT...world class narcissist
If I was PIF I would team with SSG to buy the Euro tour and use it to establish the World Tour...
we've been touting that idea for over a year! thanks
@@kostismccord PIF would gladly provide the funds....IMO it will be PIF that unites the sport...Tiger just wants to be King of PGAT
Some TV exec thought: 'Let's replace these guys with Dottie Pepper. Yeah, that's what our viewers want! Our ratings will go through the roof!'
I have worked with PEs for the last 23 years and i can tell you that SSG will have a 3-5 year time line for return on investment. Once you reach year 2 if there is no ratings turn around then the cash dries up. At that point SSG dumps its interest in the pga and sells to LIV
thanks for your comment MrHobbs
Maybe SSG, inside two years joins with PIF to create the World Tour, by buying the Euro tour, with PIF funding it?
@@1362pc yes another possible out come
I also believe why PGA viewership is down is because of the announcers. They have become milk toast. When you guys were on the air, it was fun and funny. You wanted to hear the stories that were being told. Now it’s just dull. I also know it’s not the announcer’s fault. They are being held back or fired if they cut loose.
thank you John
100% agree
I’m convinced the PGA is waiting for LIV to cut their loses and shutdown. Even if this does happen, the PGA Tour will never be the same. The damage is already done.
LIV can survive longer than the PGA Tour can. Its really simple math
LIV is in for the long haul.....PIF are serious people with serious money, they WILL create a successful world tour
@@cleveland2022 if LIV can’t make money they can’t survive, it doesn’t matter who is backing them. Are they making money? I have no idea if they are or not, but there is no way they have recouped the investment in the players yet.
I spoke to a Dutch TV commentator and he said the players on LIV really don’t like the format and the lack of professionalism and will ride out their contracts and won’t resign. PGA tour is in no hurry to make LIV credible.
Gary the story was AWESOME ... still laughing .... Thanks
too much fun!! thank you
you know the announcing sucks when the tournament is more interesting with the remote on mute
Why is the PGAT board allowing tiger to make decisions that are in HIS best interests?
good question thanks for the comment
Rewatching great
Ratings are down due to lack of Tiger. Love him or hate him, back in the day you had non golfers watching when Tiger played, those people no longer watching.
Pro Golf MUST be entertaining
that's what it's about!
TV is old technology...
Maybe PIF will join with SSG to get the World tour going?
There are to many tournaments, they need to drop at least 10% , people will watch premium events , but put the lesser ones on only w/e’s for 4 hrs etc
appreciate your comment
Things will change when SSG demands PGA provides a legitimate plan that will provide return on their money or else they are pulling out their money. PGA cannot afford that so that’s when PGA will be forced to pull the trigger and make major changes to PGA that will have to include LIv players. Hopefully it’s replacing uninteresting, non signature events with combined, PGa and LIV player events. Also they would have to dump OWGR and have a fair rating system that will allow Liv players to qualify and compete in Majors.
TGL is another silly season-like event that won’t garner loads of fans because of its premise-fancy mini golf. Even Tiger’s involvement won’t draw interest if it’s senseless irrelevant golf. I’m with Peter as Im not interested in it.
Signature events are a waste of time. they ruined the rest of the tourneys. Canadian open is a joke of a tourney now. all events should be full field. every player should be required to enter every tourney over a five yr period. imagine if scotty and rory come to quad cities
Yep, UT highlights are it
glad you agree! thanks
Abram ... Producers are usually heard and NOT seen ... Try harder please... The name is Kostis and McCord for a reason ... Sorry but I am not alone here ...
Disagree. Abram’s is responsible for creating Kostis and McCord podcast. We should thank him for bringing us the most legitimate golf talk show with two people that have decades of golf experience, and objective, common sense comments that other podcasts just cannot provide. You need a straight man to set up the two stars.
Not watching TGL. No chance.
Every so called improvement to the PGA Tour recently is directly related to LIV. SSG isn't an improvement it's a sellout.
TGL will last no more than 2 years.
TGL will rigged....to make it interesting....and I bet Tiger 'plays' very well
I agree. It will be a nothing burger. No one is gonna be watching that. Part of the fun of watching a great Tournament is the course itself. i can go to a simulator if i want to watch a computer screen
It will struggle not to look fake....so easy to manipulate the software to make bad shots become great...
Would Scottie have won as many if he was competing with the guys on LIV? He doesn't really have a top player weekend and week out, the PGAT made sure of that!
I've stopped watching golf on TV, don't know any of the players, and it takes too long, and worse, the announcement is terrible, seems they all have an agenda or special players they are promoting instead of just calling the play. Where's Johnny Miller when we need him. No one commentating on the actual process of winning, just schilling fir someone it something.
appreciate the thoughts Mike
Totally agree
I’ve been watching your videos for quite some time. All due respect to you guys, you have it all wrong. TW was an anomaly, a once in a lifetime (or 2) bump in the ratings for golf. Once his playing career is over, golf on tv will go back to exactly the same niche sport it was before he burst on the scene. Golf doesn’t (and never will) have the mass appeal to justify the purses being offered by the 54 league.
If golf is in disarray, it’s all on those who left. All because the king and prince of all d-bags decided they were above the PGAT and were too good to play with 50-125 on the money list.
Golf is not about the top 30, it’s about the competition, the courses, the tournaments.
More people watched the Creator's Classic than have ever watched a LIV event.
LIV is literally Brooks, Bryson, Rahm, and Cam Smith. That's it. That's the list that people care about. DJ, Reed, Sergio, Phil are all washed.
I don't mind seeing those guys only 4 times a year. Even Soccer has multiple leagues globally. The Prem, Serie A, Bundesliga, La Liga, MLS etc.
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