The Sonic Censorship Post That Got Many Upset

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  • @khatdubell
    @khatdubell 7 годин тому +950

    "its so small, why do you care?"
    No, if its so small, why do YOU/THEY care.

    • @EthanMastercrafter
      @EthanMastercrafter 7 годин тому +81

      The most sane sane twitter argument

    • @Ozzystrayroo
      @Ozzystrayroo 7 годин тому

      Nothing would not be changed if it is insignificant as they claimed to be.
      Logic dictated that something has to be significant enough to require change.
      But the left don't do/blatanly ignore logic when it does not serve them

    • @ryszakowy
      @ryszakowy 6 годин тому +82

      if it's small then why did you do it

    • @creatorsfreedom6734
      @creatorsfreedom6734 6 годин тому +17

      this a penis joke ?

    • @trajanfidelis1532
      @trajanfidelis1532 5 годин тому

      ​@@creatorsfreedom6734to the immature sure

  • @boufns8
    @boufns8 8 годин тому +619

    Woman simping for man: ABUSE!
    Man simping for woman, her stepping on him and him giving her money: EQUALITY! PROGRESS!

    • @Launchpad05
      @Launchpad05 7 годин тому +44

      Barbie approved.

    • @schnek8927
      @schnek8927 6 годин тому +69

      That’s literally the entire point of feminism, from the very behinning.

    • @talison461
      @talison461 6 годин тому +40

      Thats the world we Live in: a feminist dystopia.

    • @dallahan7879
      @dallahan7879 6 годин тому +6

      Some would call that a reward.

    • @szymonrozanski6938
      @szymonrozanski6938 5 годин тому

      @@schnek8927 No it wasnt. It was hijacked.
      Body positivity started genuinly for disabled people.
      And quickly was hijacked by women to be whatever it is now.

  • @GeneralProfessor
    @GeneralProfessor 7 годин тому +727

    "It's just a single cancer cell. Why do you care? Stop overreacting. It's not a big deal."
    *dies from cancer*
    "That death was due to changing weather, low taxes, too much private ownership, and not enough ze bugz in the diet. Cancer had nothing to do with it."

    • @manoftruth0935
      @manoftruth0935 5 годин тому +32

      @@GeneralProfessor we are going to have to use that when they ask us why complain about the butchering of long established characters.

    • @pikminologueraisin2139
      @pikminologueraisin2139 5 годин тому +41

      "it's capitalism fault and radicalisation from too much internet"_guy who thrive in a capitalism country and never go outside

    • @TearThatRedFlagDown
      @TearThatRedFlagDown 4 години тому

      @@pikminologueraisin2139 I think our policy should be that if you whine about capitalism bad, that you should be shipped off to any Socialist country to live under a system that you apparently want to live under. Either that or they can face the wall.

    • @TearThatRedFlagDown
      @TearThatRedFlagDown 4 години тому

      @@pikminologueraisin2139 Funny thing is, they blame problems that were brought about by left wing and deeply Socialist policies on Capitalism. And that's not because they're ignorant either, all of that is on purpose and the average midwit gobbles it up like turkey.
      For example, you wouldn't believe how many people I know who fall for the whole "greedflation" narrative, they vastly outnumber those who understand that inflation happens due to money printing.

    • @TearThatRedFlagDown
      @TearThatRedFlagDown 4 години тому

      @@pikminologueraisin2139 Funny thing is, they blame problems that were brought about by left wing and deeply Socialist policies on Capitalism. And that's not because they're ignorant either, all of that is on purpose and the average midwit gobbles it up like turkey.

  • @symptomofsouls
    @symptomofsouls 8 годин тому +491

    We make jokes about 4kids censorship but we unironically surpassed it

    • @BlackCroft666
      @BlackCroft666 7 годин тому

      4 kids only hid big bbobs, they never changed the sizes.

    • @WllKiedSnake
      @WllKiedSnake 7 годин тому

      When the Left go even further than the Right with their censorship. How times have changed.

    • @pikminman13
      @pikminman13 5 годин тому +44

      4kids was at least funny. sanji's lollipop comes to mind.

    • @WllKiedSnake
      @WllKiedSnake 5 годин тому +35

      @@symptomofsouls 4kids still wasn't as bad as what goes on today.

    • @TheCrimsonFacker
      @TheCrimsonFacker 5 годин тому +10

      maybe not surpass it, but more like 'under new management'

  • @weareharbinger914
    @weareharbinger914 8 годин тому +439

    They're now censoring being RUDE to women. Even when those women are fictional hedgehog creatures.
    Thats pathetic. They act like everyone is going to act like a four year old throwing a tantrum on seeing ONE thing wrong.

    • @Blunthammer
      @Blunthammer 8 годин тому

      Gotta put the WEAKER gender on a pedestal. But MUH equality somehow!

    • @OneDapperFrog
      @OneDapperFrog 7 годин тому +64

      That's bc there are people on the internet with pink hair and 40 piercings that do act like 4yo when a character doesn't agree with them.

    • @acrane3496
      @acrane3496 7 годин тому +9

      That’s because the ppl complaining are ppl influenced by media to do these things.

    • @Mailed-Knight
      @Mailed-Knight 7 годин тому +46

      He wasn't even being rude, she was trying to grab him.

    • @pikminologueraisin2139
      @pikminologueraisin2139 4 години тому +8

      this make me want to make a racist Postal 2 playthrough
      like RWS said, let's do bad things in video games not in real life

  • @zero1action27
    @zero1action27 4 години тому +145

    Just a reminder, it started with sexual outfits and now they are going for inoffensive stuff.

    • @MaverickhunterXZero
      @MaverickhunterXZero 4 години тому +36

      We called this years ago. They never liten until it's too late.

    • @zero1action27
      @zero1action27 4 години тому +41

      @@MaverickhunterXZero People needs to understand that censorship starts with the easy stuff to censor before it goes too far. "Give them an inch they will take a mile."

    • @MaverickhunterXZero
      @MaverickhunterXZero 3 години тому +14

      @zero1action27 they ignore it out of fear. They don't want to be lumped in with "perverts" but it's usually been perverts demanding the changes to hide.

    • @beauwalker9820
      @beauwalker9820 3 години тому +12

      Almost surprised Rouge the bat is still allowed in the game.

    • @MaverickhunterXZero
      @MaverickhunterXZero 3 години тому +5

      @@beauwalker9820 without a sultry character.
      And to disprove that Flynn's played Sonic. He didn't even know Xhaos Conteol allows you to warp.

  • @Stresslvls99
    @Stresslvls99 6 годин тому +165

    Ethics department sounds like a fake job for dead weight people.

    • @dallahan7879
      @dallahan7879 6 годин тому +26

      Same goes for localization.

    • @guilhermehank4938
      @guilhermehank4938 5 годин тому +19

      It is, it's the job equivalent of bloatware

    • @leonlegend
      @leonlegend 4 години тому +7

      @@dallahan7879 Not really but I know why you're saying that. It's only in America (as far as I can tell) that 'localisation' means 'put a bunch of unfunny meme culture & politics into a show it doesn't belong in.'

    • @dallahan7879
      @dallahan7879 4 години тому +12

      @@leonlegend America has a horrible problem with them. Saying that, a translator can do the job just fine. Anyone who translates would know at least some basic things about the culture they're translating for. Localizers aren't cultural/historical experts. In many cases they don't even know the language when it comes to the American ones. Either way, everything is just fine with just a translator.

    • @malicekerendu3574
      @malicekerendu3574 3 години тому

      ​@@leonlegendLocalisation is just political propaganda. All they do is removing cultural aspects of the original work.
      Some would call the arabic version of Steven Univers censorship, but by those people's standards it is simply a small change that doesn't matter.

  • @CommanderBohn
    @CommanderBohn 8 годин тому +433

    These censorships are getting more and more ridiculous...

    • @vi6ddarkking
      @vi6ddarkking 7 годин тому +49

      Yup they even censored Rouge's bare back.
      Honestly, of all the things to waste time on.

    • @alejandrotorresriquelme8714
      @alejandrotorresriquelme8714 7 годин тому

      I can tell you they do not live in the reality that most people are. Most of them are on drugs or childless, and to be honest they do not have loyal friends

    • @metronome8471
      @metronome8471 6 годин тому +15

      Sega censors what nintendidnt

    • @stormcutter59
      @stormcutter59 6 годин тому

      I think it already peaked when they had a Tranny kill Joel with a golf club. It's already there.

    • @CarTastic-fv6eo
      @CarTastic-fv6eo 5 годин тому

      Well its communism all over again ...

  • @SETHRX7
    @SETHRX7 5 годин тому +119

    Four stages of THIS:
    1. We do not wish to offend.
    2. We want to make inclusive thing.
    3. We did inclusive thing and this is not for You specifically. Go away!
    4. Why You don't buy our thing?!

  • @TOUGHEYES
    @TOUGHEYES 8 годин тому +285

    I'm getting really sick of these people. Every woman with a Hapsburg Jaw, & David Duchovny in Silent Hill 2, and the constant, CONSTANT flap licking from these devs towards the idea of women. Not even actual women, the idea of women. Anything for a crumb, huh?

    • @ahoramazda6864
      @ahoramazda6864 6 годин тому +10

      It seems to me that this is all because of coof. People started seeing each other less often and seeing women less often. Although it was relatively short-lived, it was enough to influence people, especially those who were terminally online. Such people rarely see women in person, so it’s easier for them to believe such nonsense.
      Personally, I was very surprised when, after isolation, I saw a young nurse. Her neck was so thin that the thought flashed through my head: “No one, seeing such a neck in front of them, will believe in Twatter bs.”
      P.S. Some creators now with are ironic fans of androgynous chicks. This plays into women's jealousy and envy to other woman.

    • @kaisokusekkendou1498
      @kaisokusekkendou1498 5 годин тому +6

      Well, we haven't really fully recovered from the coof's anti-social effects.
      Wearing masks in public was normalized (I still see people doing it, even alone in their cars).
      The infrastrcuture of ordering online and curbside pickup is still there in full swing at most stores.
      And depending on the job, many are still work from home or at least hybrid.

    • @kamikaze00007
      @kamikaze00007 5 годин тому +9

      It's money-laundering for politics at this point. Even if the company tanks, suspiciously enough apparently the executives' pay and bonuses remain exorbitant while the losses are recouped by mass layoffs. And when the entire company burns to the ground and dissolves, said executives that make the business decisions just move to other companies as-if playing a musical game of chairs. Basically, they're getting paid ESG-DEI investment money to push politics for global corporations with an agenda. Instead of having to work for a fraction of the money their company is worth, which they can't liquidate normally anyway. Instant cash was the choice they made at the expense of customers. Heck, at this point, I'd say the global corpo investors are their customers at this point. We're all just collateral damage.

    • @Zanduras1
      @Zanduras1 4 години тому

      Need to appeal to the uggo's (they also don't get to play a hot model) more importantly NO enjoyment coomer!

    • @gossamera4665
      @gossamera4665 Годину тому +1

      @@kaisokusekkendou1498 The working from home thing was the only good thing to come out of that big scam.

  • @guardian1102
    @guardian1102 7 годин тому +303

    Every time they ask "why do you care?", snap back at them why do they care enough to change it. Remember that all these changes are costly in the first place.

    • @wanderingknight7777
      @wanderingknight7777 5 годин тому +12

      Thanks, I'll keep that in mind.

    • @pikminologueraisin2139
      @pikminologueraisin2139 4 години тому +8

      nah those people are fine with censorship they don't deserve my attention

    • @mrshmuga9
      @mrshmuga9 3 години тому +3

      They’ll have their stupid reasons, unfortunately. Maybe ask, “Why would this be a problem today? And why didn’t it prevent the original from being successful if it is SO detrimental that they NEED to remove it?”

    • @linusgustafsson2629
      @linusgustafsson2629 3 години тому +6

      They also refuse to revert changes "because we already paid for it".
      I say, deduct the pay from the ethics department if you can't afford to revert changes. It isn't like they even deserved a pay to begin with.

    • @Nope_handlesaretrash
      @Nope_handlesaretrash 2 години тому

      ​@@mrshmuga9force them to drag it out then. On the internet your not even trying to coerce the target, your making the target ruin their own argument to the audience.

  • @NoPantsBaby
    @NoPantsBaby 8 годин тому +454

    Amy being clingy and Sonic not interested was a nice dynamic.
    They destroyed a whole part of both characters by neutering that dynamic.

    • @DudeSoWin
      @DudeSoWin 7 годин тому +42

      But the real moral of the story is that Sonic is pulling a fast one by playing the long game. He has blue balls.

    • @telvyncartwright1884
      @telvyncartwright1884 7 годин тому +24

      Not a fan of the censorship but I prefer the direction frontiers went. Basically all sonics friends realizing they want to do things away from Sonic, get tails back on his SA2 character, give knuckles his own game and Amy to realize love sonic but get interest other than that. Keep Amy interested hut just change it to like where she tries other methods but he still does not care

    • @acrane3496
      @acrane3496 7 годин тому +6

      Western sonic changed that dynamic with sonic boom and then sonic prime followed suit. Ppl praised for that change

    • @unlucky1307
      @unlucky1307 7 годин тому +11

      They're also alienating people who could relate to Sonic's situation. Asexuals and gays in particular are a minority group that heavily relates to Sonic in those interactions.

    • @SpyroTigerDovefan34
      @SpyroTigerDovefan34 7 годин тому +42

      A little unknown fact but in a Sonic Heroes or Sonic Unleashed/World Adventure era interview, Sonic Team revealed Sonic did love Amy, he was just shy (and it's even hinted that in The Black Knight, he was on his way to take her out on a date before the events of the game as shown with him having two chilli dogs and the two talking at the end of the game). Blame Soy Boy Flynn for a lot of the changes

  • @Vynne96-jg7er
    @Vynne96-jg7er 6 годин тому +51

    Always remember: Censorships and wokeness is made to combat freedom of expression, not to appease the consumer.

  • @Redneck_Hero
    @Redneck_Hero 7 годин тому +166

    Male character keeps his distance from female stalker character=BAD
    Female character stalks male character and is A-OK👌

    • @ryannathaniel9296
      @ryannathaniel9296 3 години тому +12

      Literally what the Sonamy "fanbase" thinks.
      I swear, they label anyone who dislikes their ship or their golden girl misogynist,
      But they used to often harass people who likes other female Sonic characters

    • @TheMetalValkyrie
      @TheMetalValkyrie 2 хвилини тому

      its always been bad though

  • @yewtewbstew547
    @yewtewbstew547 5 годин тому +72

    "That didn't happen.
    And if it did, it wasn't that bad.
    And if it was, that's not a big deal.
    And if it is, that's not my fault.
    And if it was, I didn't mean it.
    And if I did, you deserved it."
    Every single time.

    • @chadmagnus5850
      @chadmagnus5850 2 години тому +4

      Might as well make this into a poem.

  • @megakazuya123
    @megakazuya123 4 години тому +51

    They completely altered a scene and dialogue to pander to women.
    This is not censorship, censorship is to remove or obscure content that is deemed "harmful" in nature.
    *This is propaganda,* not "censorship"...

    • @ConsueloWubba
      @ConsueloWubba 2 години тому +8

      Not women. Feminists. There is a difference.

    • @kyletimmons2940
      @kyletimmons2940 2 години тому +8

      It's both. They're not mutually exclusive concepts.

  • @Muffincakeswithsugar
    @Muffincakeswithsugar 8 годин тому +175

    The reason why Sonic did this to Amy in the original release is because of how Amy was and because of her personality so he actually had a reason to do this and it added a funny comedic moment. Anyone who played the Sonic games know about this. This sort of reminds me when an item called "Wirt's Third Leg" was removed from World of Warcraft because a clueless person thought it had something to do with a male organ, whereas in reality the reason it was named "Wirt's Third Leg" is because it's the third time this leg makes a cameo in Blizzard games, the previous 2 times were in Warcraft 3 and Diablo 2.

    • @stillcantbesilencedevennow
      @stillcantbesilencedevennow 7 годин тому +51

      Also, it was a crutch, a literal "third leg". They're so stupid it hurts.

    • @HiddenStr3ngth
      @HiddenStr3ngth 6 годин тому +41

      Lol even if it was a joke like that, big fkn deal lol
      But what can you expect from a game where they change women in paintings to fruit.

    • @Leathal
      @Leathal 3 години тому +13

      Reminded me of when they renamed “The Nicker” to “The Blackrock Slicer” and it changed nothing because trade chat just kept on using Blackrock Slicer as a euphemism for the gamer word

    • @Fleshbag453
      @Fleshbag453 34 хвилини тому +1

      I don't play Sonic games, can't say I ever cared for the franchise, but even I know that's just Amy's character. Just goes to show how deep in the industry the tourists are influencing things.

  • @VF0312
    @VF0312 7 годин тому +97

    Ethics department feels like a waste of money and resource

    • @csmedia5279
      @csmedia5279 6 годин тому +22

      It is. Every intelligent artist has enough empathy to reflect his storytelling without moral priests explaining the world for him.

    • @malicekerendu3574
      @malicekerendu3574 3 години тому +1

      Enron was very proud of its code of ethics.
      It is just veil to hide their evil.

  • @MissiGNO000
    @MissiGNO000 8 годин тому +285

    This is some 4kids shit

    • @WllKiedSnake
      @WllKiedSnake 6 годин тому +51

      4kids was still more based in comparison.

    • @Synthetic_Strigiforme
      @Synthetic_Strigiforme 5 годин тому

      More like some 4cucks shit.

    • @eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee9531
      @eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee9531 5 годин тому +16

      4kids but even worse

    • @08fighter08
      @08fighter08 5 годин тому +14

      Nooo. 4kids wouldn’t go that far. 😂

    • @KinnikuGameDojo
      @KinnikuGameDojo 5 годин тому

      No 4kids would not do this. They did ultimate muscle and pokemon and they got away with quite a lot. ​@@08fighter08

  • @mrdrybonestv
    @mrdrybonestv 5 годин тому +45

    If you take away Amy being obsessed with Sonic, there is no reason for her to go on adventures. She isn’t fast like Sonic, she’s not as strong as knuckles and she’s not as smart as tails. Why would she go on an adventure? It was always because she tagged along to be near Sonic. If she isn’t in love with Sonic anymore why would she put herself in danger?

    • @legoclayface
      @legoclayface 5 годин тому +12

      Amy has virtually no personality now or any reason to like her as a character. She's just dead and lifeless now.

    • @pikminologueraisin2139
      @pikminologueraisin2139 4 години тому +1

      @@legoclayface they butcher every female characters and girls are fine with that

    • @MaverickhunterXZero
      @MaverickhunterXZero 4 години тому +16

      They are unironically making Amy the "just girl" they whined that was what her character was. Ian Flynn hates writing Sonic characters and makes his ocs centere stage all the time.

    • @beauwalker9820
      @beauwalker9820 4 години тому +1

      ​@@MaverickhunterXZero That's not true, Ian Flynn has written the Sonic characters well plenty of times in the comics, gave Sonic emotion, and such. And unlike previous writers Ian loved playing the Sonic games and watching Sonic cartoons as kid.
      Former Sonic writer Ken Penders was asked who his favorite Sonic characters were, and he only mentioned his OCs. You might be confusing Ian with Ken.
      A lot of people seem to be doing that in these comments...

    • @MaverickhunterXZero
      @MaverickhunterXZero 3 години тому

      @beauwalker9820 He turned Sonic into a whiney bitch. Sonic would give a damn about Metal Sonic not being good, yet, he mad him sob over that.
      Flynn is another example of egotism over Canon. Just like artists on it, throwing their OCs in the background. OCs the artist drew porn of.

  • @lstcloud
    @lstcloud 6 годин тому +26

    The sad thing about this is: wasn't Capcom the one who did that whole gamers survey just a couple months back that found out that their customers didn't give 2 squirts about DEI?

  • @ドリフト180X
    @ドリフト180X 8 годин тому +113

    Man that’s reaching new lows when they feel the need to censor Sonic the Hedgehog of all things LMAO, absolutely bizarre

    • @beauwalker9820
      @beauwalker9820 4 години тому +10

      "We need to censor Motobug enemies, because they are round, and look like breasts, and we can't have breasts in a video game!"

  • @ahoramazda6864
    @ahoramazda6864 7 годин тому +87

    A short story on the topic. In the Soviet Union there was a similar puritanism regarding sex, so my aunt's female colleague was very naive and clueless on the topic. So clueless and naive that when the guy invited her to “go out,” the girl agreed without understanding what he meant, then a couple of minutes later she ran out of the bushes, scared. This is because she avoided the topic of sex for so long that when faced with it in life, she didn’t know what to do about it. I think this has happened to many Western women. Although the culture seems much more liberal sexually, it is only in terms of different ways for sex, not but socially. Women are literally taught to fear men, which is why they are so tense and unsatisfied.

    • @superplayerex2431
      @superplayerex2431 7 годин тому +12

      From what I've heard from my parents who lived during the late Soviet Union era, the puritanism was largely relegated to media on TV and such. People at large knew about sex and they even flinged various jokes to each other which involved the topic in various subtle and hilarious ways. Similarly, people in the Soviet Union were fairly religious as well despite the attempts to completely stomp it out by the government... Old habits and hope die last, I suppose. At least that's how it all was just a couple of decades or so before the Soviet Union collapsed.

    • @ahoramazda6864
      @ahoramazda6864 7 годин тому +17

      @@superplayerex2431, I wasn't talking about everyone in that era (around the 80s, given my aunt's age), but rather about some individuals like that girl who were clueless and naive. But this story reminded me of the modern feminist tripe, when even a glance and a question are considered offend.

    • @RezaQin
      @RezaQin 6 годин тому

      Leftists are not puritan

    • @Fleshbag453
      @Fleshbag453 31 хвилина тому

      Doesn't help when they're able to benefit from being afraid of men and the stigma that exists about men. In the west, courts always believe women unless there's irrefutable proof of her being in the wrong in the situation, otherwise the man is 90% likely to be convicted of whatever she's charging him with.

  • @2bitbyte
    @2bitbyte 7 годин тому +79

    Sonic fans had TEN YEARS to notice the signs and fight the encroaching wokeness. Now it's too late, we've reached the point of censorship of older games. It's over.

    • @NoahGooder
      @NoahGooder 4 години тому +4

      wait this is an update to an older game?

    • @LoliconSamalik
      @LoliconSamalik 4 години тому +7

      10 years ago we got Sonic Lost World. Then we got Sonic Forces. Then we finally got Frontiers.
      Save to say the series was kind of in a halfcoma.

    • @beauwalker9820
      @beauwalker9820 4 години тому +10

      ​​@@LoliconSamalik Sonic Mania helped though. It was a great game.
      And I hate how people call it a "fan game," because Christian Whitehead a former fan game maker made it. (Who is now a professional game maker look at "Penny's Big Breakaway") Which is ironic because Sega was still involved and it was their idea to make it. So it's still an official Sega game too.

    • @flarestorm9417
      @flarestorm9417 2 години тому +2

      It's not like Sonic has ever had super strong storytelling. I'm not up to date on everything, but it's not like Sonic's writing has been that great in recent years. And no, it wasn't 'wokeness' that ruined the writing. If there was any wokeness, it either wasn't noticeable or was pushed aside because there were bigger issues. Sonic has been a damaged brand for a long time, so using it as a vehicle for anything would be a foolish. But with all that said, this was bound to happen eventually.
      Keep in mind that SEGA commented on Roe V. Wade, basically saying they'd help employees get ab-rtions in other states. They even promoted Planned Parenthood, despite its founder being an anti-bl-ack r-cist that established it as a form of e-genics.

    • @becongeneral
      @becongeneral 2 години тому

      They did notice it... The majority of Sonic fans ARE these woke terrorists...

  • @tsuki008
    @tsuki008 6 годин тому +32

    i hate modern gaming with all of my soul.

  • @Shin_Mothra
    @Shin_Mothra 6 годин тому +19

    They really are just removing every single one of Amy's personality traits.

  • @SirFailsalot91
    @SirFailsalot91 7 годин тому +156

    The only reason Sonic pushes Amy off like that in Generations is because she gets too grabby trying to hug him without permission and he doesn't tolerate it, she's trying to invade his personal space so he pushes her off - he only acts like that when she's in her obsessive mode towards him, an appropriate response to an unwanted grabby advance; it's not like he bullies her all the time, he does respect her when she's behaving in a mature way and not glomping onto him all the time, he's only rude when she's rude in order to show her he's not going to accept this behaviour.
    Reverse the roles and nobody would complain because Sonic would be a creeper being put in his place, but when it's a girl doing it to a guy, he's just supposed to tolerate her inappropriate fangirling towards him - unless they actually changed it so that Amy isn't as obsessed with Sonic as before like she is nowadays, then this change doesn't make sense (not that there was any need to change it in the first place.)
    It's a proverbial inches and miles situation, nothing was wrong with this cutscene unless SEGA were really wanting to rewrite their history of the relationship Sonic and Amy have to make her less obsessive.

    • @leonlegend
      @leonlegend 6 годин тому

      Buddy, she was just trying to hug him on his birthday. What exactly is so clingy about that? I don't doubt that SOME people would call it creepy if the roles were reversed but those people are overly sensitive & no matter if the roles were reversed, you'd still come off looking like a real prat if you react the same way Sonic did.
      The writing & characterisation was terrible in the original. They are just trying to make it decent this time around is all, they aren't censoring it for the sake of 'censorship' but instead for 'improvement.'

    • @sidecharacter7165
      @sidecharacter7165 5 годин тому

      @@leonlegend Bro if someone says not to touch them multiple times and you try to then you are the problem. Maybe you are an incel who is just desperate for touch, but not everyone is like that.

    • @Xahnel
      @Xahnel 5 годин тому +29

      ​@@leonlegend Amy Rose is a feckin yandere and routinely chases Sonic with her hammer because he isn't returning her romantic intent. He's got no interest in her, he's made that repeatedly clear, and she keeps pushing anyways, throughout all of the old games. It's only _very_ recently that Sega decided to start sanitizing their relationship and backing her off of him.

    • @ytnukesme1600
      @ytnukesme1600 5 годин тому +8

      people actually liked the Sonic Frontiers character writing. oh, yes. the logical conclusion to every romantic relationship in this day and age, breakup.

    • @ticktockbam
      @ticktockbam 4 години тому +19

      ​@@leonlegendThis is not an improvement, and you're trying to gaslight people into believing that everybody would behave like you think they would without understanding the dynamic these two characters had since they were created. People like you don't care about any of this unless it gets done in a way that hurts your ideals, like modding games back to make them like they originally were, then you see people on Twitter freaking out about it.

  • @Neil.02
    @Neil.02 7 годин тому +63

    That one is especially ridiculous, anyone with a brain knows that it’s a friendly/lighthearted dynamic between these two characters.
    Censorship is like gouging out my eyes because someone is offended they can’t see.
    Disgusting.

    • @leegaul2161
      @leegaul2161 31 хвилина тому

      It's because woke people don't have actual friendships with anyone. They can't understand a dynamic like that. Where I'm from women are bigger rough housers than men are. I have multiple friendships with women just like that. This always comes back to the crowd of people that are afraid of everything and seek to destroy human interaction. It's no surprise that relationship stats are dropping at alarming rates. More and more men don't want to even be around women because they know this is what will result.

  • @VeraldoAncodini
    @VeraldoAncodini 5 годин тому +11

    Censorship is cancer.

  • @mrbigglezworth42
    @mrbigglezworth42 8 годин тому +78

    This is why I still don't like the Canadian Dead Space. It's not Dead Space, will never be Dead Space, and is a pale imitation of what it's attempting to replace. I refuse to accept anything tainted by Canadian hands, I know what they do to the media their given.

    • @archives2876
      @archives2876 8 годин тому +5

      Canadian Dead Space? Did I miss a dead space game?

    • @ComicGladiator
      @ComicGladiator 7 годин тому

      It's not even a real Dead Space aannyywwaayyyy!

    • @mrbigglezworth42
      @mrbigglezworth42 7 годин тому +18

      @@archives2876 Motive Studios were responsible for the remake. Motive Studios is primarily in Montreal, Canada.

    • @archives2876
      @archives2876 7 годин тому

      @mrbigglezworth42 makes sense now. Thanks.

    • @Jokoko2828
      @Jokoko2828 6 годин тому +27

      Bro, they had trigger warnings in a horror game, the remake is a bloody joke.

  • @javonyounger5107
    @javonyounger5107 5 годин тому +21

    In the newer games, they heavily downplay Amy's crush on Sonic, and it seems they want to go back and pretend her obsession was never a thing.

    • @conradojavier7547
      @conradojavier7547 Годину тому

      Plus the Censorship is done by Ian Flynn, to make her NEW Personality about Tarot Cards.

  • @jordanmatthews1466
    @jordanmatthews1466 2 години тому +13

    "It's such a small change, why do you care?"
    If it's so small, why did YOU care enough to change it?

    • @hiddenflare6169
      @hiddenflare6169 33 хвилини тому

      Because the original scene wasn’t good? What if this new scene is an improvement because it represents these two hedgehogs better than the original does?

    • @MrNickPresley
      @MrNickPresley 18 хвилин тому

      @@hiddenflare6169 Sanding down edges and actually stripping away character is "Better"? To whom?

    • @hiddenflare6169
      @hiddenflare6169 4 хвилини тому

      @@MrNickPresley Yeah that describes the original generation scene well.
      The new one keeps the two characters consistent, Sonic doesn’t treat Amy like trash, and Amy is still thinking of them as a pair based on the icings of the cupcakes.

  • @Chris-th5fl
    @Chris-th5fl 7 годин тому +42

    Amy is becoming more boring as they really believe that all amy ever did was have a crush on sonic.
    She had more to her than just that but even when ahe did have her crush it was entertaining to watch.

    • @beauwalker9820
      @beauwalker9820 4 години тому +11

      I honestly kinda miss it, in fact I kinda miss the "girl chases boy" trope, which we haven't seen sense "Chowder."

    • @malicekerendu3574
      @malicekerendu3574 3 години тому +8

      They made her a feminist in Sonic Boom lmfao

    • @mrshmuga9
      @mrshmuga9 3 години тому +3

      I’ll be honest, I don’t know what her character was outside “love interest”, but I also only played a handful of games. Even if she was just that, they could still flesh out her personality while still keeping her flirty. Maybe less frequent or subdued, but it could still be an aspect of her character.
      It’s just weird that for a franchise appealing to kids, with bombastic characters (the protagonist being one of them), and featuring big goofy furry animal characters, they try to make it more grounded because of some autistic Zoomers that can’t adopt any other more mature series. They don’t even have to stop playing, just stop expecting it to become Shakespeare.

    • @beauwalker9820
      @beauwalker9820 2 години тому +4

      ​@@malicekerendu3574even in that they implied she still had a crush on Sonic, and Knuckles' epically calls out one of her feminist remarks.

  • @Snakedude4life
    @Snakedude4life 7 годин тому +45

    The insatiable avarice to change something that only fans would notice and the arrogance of pretending that the changes don’t matter.
    🎩
    🐍 no step on snek!🇭🇰🇺🇸

  • @kamikaze00007
    @kamikaze00007 5 годин тому +16

    It's money-laundering for politics at this point. Even if the company tanks, suspiciously enough apparently the executives' pay and bonuses remain exorbitant while the losses are recouped by mass layoffs. And when the entire company burns to the ground and dissolves, said executives that make the business decisions just move to other companies as-if playing a musical game of chairs. Basically, they're getting paid ESG-DEI investment money to push politics for global corporations with an agenda. Instead of having to work for a fraction of the money their company is worth, which they can't liquidate normally anyway. Instant cash was the choice they made at the expense of customers. Heck, at this point, I'd say the global corpo investors are their customers at this point. We're all just collateral damage.

  • @AbyssalManta
    @AbyssalManta 6 годин тому +14

    They claim it's because the "modern audience" would be offended, but the true reason is the same as why you can't compare certain figures from the far east to Winnie the Pooh, the same reason you cannot make satire of kings and emperors. You are not allowed to criticize (or make fun of) the people who REALLY rule over you. Do notice you can criticize politicians.

  • @mokadelic4037
    @mokadelic4037 7 годин тому +26

    We are about to reach levels only matched by 4kids that censored Sanji's cigarette with a lollipop. Absolute clown behavior.

    • @NoahGooder
      @NoahGooder 4 години тому +2

      damn and those were ironicly the good days because they kept most of the original aspects.

    • @beauwalker9820
      @beauwalker9820 4 години тому +3

      ​@@NoahGooder not always, 4Kids censored signs in Sonic X that were in English, and nothing offensive was even on them.

    • @NoahGooder
      @NoahGooder 3 години тому +3

      @@beauwalker9820 ah fair, I only ever got to watch sonic x via gba cart.

  • @falcongamer58
    @falcongamer58 5 годин тому +19

    Sonic can't outrun the woke

  • @kirby7648
    @kirby7648 5 годин тому +7

    And the question is:
    Who is asking for these censors?

  • @leandrobenitez292
    @leandrobenitez292 8 годин тому +35

    this has been a thing for the longest time, i remember back before SJWs were a thing, people were talking about the Guybrush paradox
    Guybrush was allowed to be a slapstick clumsy goofball because he was a man, had he been a woman, pearls would have been clutched

    • @beauwalker9820
      @beauwalker9820 4 години тому +3

      It's a shame girl characters aren't allowed to be goofy too anymore.

  • @Hey1234Hey
    @Hey1234Hey 8 годин тому +93

    Imagine how upset chris chan is over this

    • @michaelwautraets7126
      @michaelwautraets7126 8 годин тому +25

      at least this Sonic's arms arent blue

    • @ComicGladiator
      @ComicGladiator 7 годин тому +17

      Only his mom can calm his passions.

    • @AyrKid
      @AyrKid 7 годин тому +1

      DONT CALL ANYONE

    • @beauwalker9820
      @beauwalker9820 4 години тому +5

      CWC is part of that politically correct community now basically.

  • @sauliusvekteris526
    @sauliusvekteris526 6 годин тому +14

    Its over guys. We had a good run. The sooner video game industry comes to crash the better it will be.

  • @FoxyCAMTV
    @FoxyCAMTV 6 годин тому +12

    Give idiots power and they'll abuse it.

  • @unlucky1307
    @unlucky1307 7 годин тому +27

    Sonic acknowledging Amy is going to lose them a lot of their audience for a silly reason. Sonic being oblivious and uninterested is amusing yes, but it's also relatable for a lot of people.

    • @Xahnel
      @Xahnel 5 годин тому +3

      Sonic is not and has never been oblivious, _just_ deeply uninterested.

    • @housewilma4904
      @housewilma4904 Годину тому

      @@Xahnel even sega knows as much as they hate it the only character that fit romance with sonic was sally squirrel which they lost forever because of christ chan 2.

  • @Leontemplar-yt6ff
    @Leontemplar-yt6ff 5 годин тому +10

    If it’s so small & irrelevant then why do they pay millions to change stuff?

  • @gundamdetractor337
    @gundamdetractor337 7 годин тому +29

    a character must have virtues, but also must have flaws. this is what connects it to people, what makes it relatable. taking flaws away in order to create a "perfect" character that never do anything wrong is just making a doll with no soul. they're removing the character's soul by taking away his flaws.

  • @Goddamnitiwantaname
    @Goddamnitiwantaname 6 годин тому +11

    Losing Bandai Namco to the DEI altar is a huge loss.

  • @The-Man-On-The-Mountain
    @The-Man-On-The-Mountain 7 годин тому +59

    This has got so ridiculous that I can't understand how women are not embarrassed by all what they've done to this society.

    • @alldayscapegoat
      @alldayscapegoat 6 годин тому +31

      That would require them to self reflect and correctly place blame, two things their species is wholly incapable of.

    • @sauliusvekteris526
      @sauliusvekteris526 6 годин тому +16

      @@alldayscapegoat Womens accountability is like Cryptonite to Super man

    • @sidecharacter7165
      @sidecharacter7165 5 годин тому +7

      Gen Z can take some of the blame, but all older women definitely think it is good because the religion of feminism tells them so.

    • @beauwalker9820
      @beauwalker9820 4 години тому +7

      Actually some UA-camr women have voiced embarrassment, and annoyance of this too, and didn't call for this. Many women are not to blame.

    • @NewsofPE
      @NewsofPE 3 години тому

      @@beauwalker9820 *some* women, most women fight for this

  • @Phantomcrustacean
    @Phantomcrustacean 8 годин тому +92

    What makes it even more aggravating is that everything else is fine.
    The dialogues snappier, we get callbacks to previous games, but they just can’t help themselves but butcher Amy

    • @doltBmB
      @doltBmB 7 годин тому +24

      don't cheer about callbacks, ian flynn can do nothing but make references

    • @Phantomcrustacean
      @Phantomcrustacean 7 годин тому +8

      @@doltBmB So clearly you’ve never read his run during he’s Archie days, nor do you seem to understand that he’s essentially having to catch everyone up on years of sonic canon.

    • @doltBmB
      @doltBmB 7 годин тому

      @@Phantomcrustacean stop sucking the dick of a hack who is ruining the franchise

    • @TeamBelmont91
      @TeamBelmont91 6 годин тому +8

      ​@@doltBmBKen Penders, what're you doing out of your Twitterspace?

    • @guilhermehank4938
      @guilhermehank4938 6 годин тому +3

      Well, because of this, I'm pirating it, they ain't getting my money

  • @pletter64
    @pletter64 7 годин тому +65

    Knuckles: You know, Amy, any time someone calls attention to the breaking of gender roles, it ultimately undermines the concept of gender equality by implying that this is an exception and not the status quo.
    Knuckles: What? Just because I'm a meathead doesn't mean I'm not a feminist.

    • @devnotes00
      @devnotes00 7 годин тому +14

      The Boom era was a dark time. We don't talk about it 😢

    • @EthanMastercrafter
      @EthanMastercrafter 7 годин тому +21

      ​@@devnotes00the boom show was the only good thing about sonic boom

    • @superplayerex2431
      @superplayerex2431 7 годин тому +26

      This is indeed a real joke featured in the Sonic Boom cartoon. The humor and writing quality for the jokes is probably the only good aspect of it that made the show memorable, if you ask me.

    • @schnek8927
      @schnek8927 6 годин тому +1

      More-so the reason *why.*

    • @beauwalker9820
      @beauwalker9820 4 години тому +1

      ​@@EthanMastercrafter Sticks was hilarious too.

  • @gungaloscrungalo8925
    @gungaloscrungalo8925 4 години тому +4

    When has censorship _fucking EVER_ pleased anyone? When?
    Even the "WhY dO yOu cArE?" Crowd weren't calling for this type of stuff to be censored.

  • @RoyalTfrii
    @RoyalTfrii 6 годин тому +12

    We are going back to 4Kids levels of censorship

    • @MaverickhunterXZero
      @MaverickhunterXZero 4 години тому +3

      We've passed them, and people are starting to look back at those days fondly.

  • @geoffreyrichards6079
    @geoffreyrichards6079 4 години тому +13

    From what I’ve heard, the stuff with Amy doesn’t have anything to do with PC censorship. The change was apparently done in an effort to make her character more likable and tone down her more obnoxious character traits seen in prior games. A lot of fans (not all of them, but still a sizable amount) grew to despise Amy’s depiction in the post-Dreamcast games and the change was done in an effort to appeal to their tastes.

    • @viruschris3160
      @viruschris3160 4 години тому +7

      I believe this. Over the years I’ve heard people complain about Amy’s crush on Sonic. Doesn’t help when Sonic X, Sonic Battle, and Sonic Rush flanderized her character in those scenarios that people believed that was all to her character.
      I even personally blame Death Battle too been overstating how crazy her love for Sonic was.
      And unfortunately, in this case, SEGA listens to their fans. So, they think they’re doing a good thing by toning down Amy’s character but really kills her dynamic with Sonic and vice versa.
      And I believe SEGA is trying to move away from romance in general nowadays with Sonic.
      Ian isn’t the real problem. It’s the fans voicing bad takes and SEGA hearing them and their weird Sonic Bible.

    • @Probably_JENOVA
      @Probably_JENOVA 3 години тому +4

      I can believe this as being the real reason for this odd change as well. I really do hope it is the actual reason behind this change so I’m not just constantly assuming the worst. Amy’s obsession with Sonic has typically been the main thing that Sonic fans have complained about for years when it comes to her character.
      Considering how responsive Sega is to their community now and have become more aware of how Sonic fans view the series and its characters, it’s only logical that they would respond by toning down on aspects that get constantly criticized by fans, whether it’s for better or for worse.

    • @beauwalker9820
      @beauwalker9820 3 години тому +8

      Sonic fans only have themselves to blame... Personally, I never had an issue with Amy, and I kinda dislike they're taking away her cute comical aspects, and getting rid of her comical crush on Sonic. Now she just feels like "the girl character who just stands there, and occasionally helps fight."

    • @viruschris3160
      @viruschris3160 2 години тому +3

      @@beauwalker9820 Agreed.
      I miss that Amy. She was fun and funny.

  • @EthanMastercrafter
    @EthanMastercrafter 7 годин тому +31

    I honestly hate the fact that sonic generations got rewritten. Not specifically for this reason but because it wasn't necessary like the story was in no way peak cinema but wasn't horrible either and was more of a game you played for the gameplay. At least the original exists

    • @RaifSeverence
      @RaifSeverence 7 годин тому

      Hopefully you have it downloaded/purchased/etc. Because it's not available on digital storefronts.
      Like with what happened to Squares "The Last Remnant" you can't digitally buy OG Sonic Generations

    • @EthanMastercrafter
      @EthanMastercrafter 7 годин тому +2

      @@RaifSeverence erm actually it's available through a legacy bundle but it's still stupid that you can't buy it by itself. Tho sonic games go on sale for cheap usually

    • @vi6ddarkking
      @vi6ddarkking 7 годин тому +3

      @@RaifSeverence You can actually. The Legacy Bundle on steam contains the original version.
      Still at this point I would just recommend the 7 seas version.

    • @lpfan4491
      @lpfan4491 6 годин тому +1

      Sonic Generations is one of the few things that still IS available to begin with. Even if only in a boundle, that is still progress.

    • @LoliconSamalik
      @LoliconSamalik 4 години тому +4

      The only aspect that may have needed to be re-written was Shadow's inclusion. And that's fair since they added an entire new game to run parralell to the events.

  • @ytnukesme1600
    @ytnukesme1600 5 годин тому +6

    of all the games that could have been censored this year, I didn't expect Sonic Generations to be one of them. SEGA lost the plot entirely.

  • @quatreraberbawinner2628
    @quatreraberbawinner2628 6 годин тому +7

    People don't get it because they don't want to get it, it doesn't matter how small or miniscule the censorship is, it's the censorship itself that is the problem, it's the mindset, the thought process the fact that someone in the creative process gave time to change something for a group of people who are humourless miserable and often confused people

  • @jaylenharris343
    @jaylenharris343 7 годин тому +30

    We should've gatekeeped harder.

  • @NMC_1980
    @NMC_1980 4 години тому +3

    Wow, first Capcom with Dead Rising Remake and now Sega with this? Man these companies are saving me money left and right.

  • @Eeiiaane
    @Eeiiaane 8 годин тому +18

    Well, expect more of this coming because of the fact that people kept supporting and buying censored remake products just look at Dead Rising Remake and Silent Hill 2, sooner or later everything will be remade into a censored versions and these fool gamers will still consume..

  • @EmperorKarino
    @EmperorKarino 6 годин тому +13

    Big Sonic fan here, It is disappointing that SEGA is letting their DIE consultants mess with Sonic. It was so annoying seeing the army of leftists swarm over my tweets pointing out the changes were censorship.
    Vee, while yes it is a remaster, but there is new content in it. So is it a remake? no. Is it entirely no content also no. Most Sonic fans are excited for the Shadow campaign.

    • @MaverickhunterXZero
      @MaverickhunterXZero 4 години тому

      Sonic fans are mostly cucks. They eat up anything being desperate.

    • @LoliconSamalik
      @LoliconSamalik 4 години тому +3

      The new content is basically a separate game as far as I can tell

  • @MaverickhunterXZero
    @MaverickhunterXZero 4 години тому +7

    Censorship never stops at one thing. What is the point of this?

    • @zore5872
      @zore5872 4 години тому +1

      Complete and global sanitation

    • @beauwalker9820
      @beauwalker9820 3 години тому

      @@MaverickhunterXZero next they'll find Motobugs offensive for being round, and that looks too "sultry." lol

  • @mstr____blik
    @mstr____blik 8 годин тому +91

    japan's now infected :(

    • @RaiosSephi
      @RaiosSephi 8 годин тому +39

      They are crawling into Korea too.
      Studio Mir's Tomb Raider.

    • @zerosam5541
      @zerosam5541 8 годин тому +23

      Localizers jobs are to change scripts for American audience what took you so long to figure out they got japan

    • @sharphoplite38
      @sharphoplite38 7 годин тому +6

      This is just sega. Japan can and is still based. Hopefully they vote the right ppl to keep their normality as is.

    • @MisterGreis
      @MisterGreis 7 годин тому +45

      @@sharphoplite38 No, it's Capcom, Bandai Namco, Square Enix, Kadokawa, Toyota... do I need to go on?

    • @stillcantbesilencedevennow
      @stillcantbesilencedevennow 7 годин тому +30

      ​@@MisterGreisit's hard to convince the "Japan is so based" crowd. Weebs gonna weeb.

  • @iam16bits
    @iam16bits 5 годин тому +3

    Sad thing about Sega is all of their games have to be approved by the localization team in the US. It's completely ass backwards.

  • @flaviusiacob1558
    @flaviusiacob1558 7 годин тому +7

    I'd like to thank Thomas Lockley, for tanking ubisofts stocks.

  • @SubliminaIMessages
    @SubliminaIMessages 4 години тому +3

    Sega has been doing this for a while now. The Valkyria Chronicles localization still makes me shiver

  • @XBC3403
    @XBC3403 6 годин тому +13

    The main question is if its at sega's behest or Ian Flyn, the new head writer. Im pretty sure its the latter too as Ian has expressed interest in changing Amy's character before. Finding her affection towards sonic "outdated" he even wants to change her design/outfit but sega hasn't let him.

    • @MaverickhunterXZero
      @MaverickhunterXZero 4 години тому +7

      Ian Flynn is a hack. He didn't even know Chaos Control allows you to teleport. No wonder he picked Arin Hanson as a Sonic embassador. They both hate the series.

    • @johngonzalez2495
      @johngonzalez2495 4 години тому +4

      ​​@@MaverickhunterXZerooh for fuck sake, he did?? Big oof Sega

    • @beauwalker9820
      @beauwalker9820 3 години тому

      ​@@MaverickhunterXZero That's bull, Ian used Chaos control in the Sonic comics before, something tells me you guys never read his comics, or are confusing him with Ken Penders.
      Heck, there is a guy complaining that "All Ian does is reference the games/cartoons too much," so which is it? If he knew nothing about Sonic he wouldn't be able to reference obscure things.

    • @beauwalker9820
      @beauwalker9820 3 години тому

      I don't think it's Ian's fault, and frankly all he has control over is dialogue, as he had no impact on the story or franchise in Sonic Frontiers.

    • @MaverickhunterXZero
      @MaverickhunterXZero 3 години тому +4

      @beauwalker9820 Then explain in the Shadow short, he couldn't teleport. Seems like a contradiction there.
      Also, he was known the main writer, and people clambered about, yet had no impact. Then why is he there in the first place?

  • @alldayscapegoat
    @alldayscapegoat 6 годин тому +9

    Faulty sensors get replaced. Faulty censors should be no different.

  • @randoir1863
    @randoir1863 7 годин тому +9

    At this point, there's not going to be anything worth saving in the video game industry .

  • @daviddamasceno6063
    @daviddamasceno6063 5 годин тому +5

    So they finally got to Sonic huh? Shame... I had the game preordered. I'll be canceling that right now.

    • @NicheXCC
      @NicheXCC 3 години тому +1

      I've been following this Sega woke pandering for a wile now. I could have been one of their customers buying the game day one. Thankfuly, I've moved on and no longer support the company. I've been searching for alternatives for a wile. Its been fun moving away from the legasy media.

  • @linkow
    @linkow 2 години тому +2

    Oversensitivity to criticism and humor is usually an indication of extreme insecurity and low self-esteem.

  • @superplayerex2431
    @superplayerex2431 7 годин тому +18

    I'm pretty sure this is part of Ian Flynn's pivot to changing the way Sonic characters are portrayed since he has been rewriting a lot of their aspects. Unlike the original Sonic Generations in that same cutscene, Knuckles also doesn't get knocked into the tree by Amy, so she is definitely not the only one who got the boot on characterization.
    Whether or not it's DEI fueled is unknown to me, though. Ian Flynn's writing in general is just terrible and his changes to the characterizations of Sonic characters aren't at all positive, especially since he didn't give any of them fleshed out character arcs that would warrant such changes in the first place, even if the original Sonic Generations writing wasn't good either. I personally think it's more of an Ian Flynn problem than anything else.
    Though, if you want to gawk at a DEI aspect in this game, you can look at Rouge and how they made her design even less sexualized. Just compare the original and remaster cutscenes back to back and you'll see what I'm talking about.

    • @legoclayface
      @legoclayface 5 годин тому

      At this point bring back Pontac and Graff as the writers.

    • @beauwalker9820
      @beauwalker9820 4 години тому

      @@legoclayface so you want bad jokes every 5 seconds?

    • @beauwalker9820
      @beauwalker9820 4 години тому

      @@superplayerex2431 is Ian even involved in the game? His comics he gave the characters emotion and personality, so I don't know what you're talking about. I don't think this is his doing, as honestly writers for licensed series don't have absolute power to do whatever they want with it. And if you ever saw Ian's older comics (before Sega started limiting what he can do more after the Penders lawsuits incident) Ian gave the Sonic characters plenty of personality, kept Amy's comical aspects, fleshed characters out (like giving the Babylon Rogues and Bean a bit more sibtle backstory to the Battlebird Armada, and Big the cat ties to the cat tribe) so I think you're kinda wrongly blaming him for the editor's and higher ups.
      Also Ian didn't write Sonic Frontier's story, he just did the english dialogue.

    • @LoliconSamalik
      @LoliconSamalik 4 години тому +8

      @@legoclayface Screw both, get Shiro Maekawa, the guy who wrote Black Knight.

    • @superplayerex2431
      @superplayerex2431 4 години тому +3

      @@beauwalker9820 Yes, Ian Flynn did write Sonic Frontiers' story. Quite a number of plot elements for lore and all of the character portrayals are his. Sonic Frontiers is actually the first Sonic game to be written in English first and then localized to Japanese second. If you play the Japanese version, you'll quickly realize it only covers localization for the dialogues in the main story cutscenes and none of the side or DLC cutscenes since it was never properly finished and the reception to the writing made them pivot towards localizing the original English script to Japanese more closely (the bits of that Japanese localization that are unique are actually quite a bit better despite the very rough unfinished state they're in).
      I will admit that earlier Archie comics had better character emotions and personalities, but it wasn't particularly well written either... It was mostly okay, though. Ian Flynn took more of a centerpiece in the Archie reboot comic and that one was just awful filled with nothing but constant nonsensical fights between Sonic characters that happened for no reason other than that they just really needed to fight each other. That entire comic's story makes no sense and there's no character arcs whatsoever, it's almost like Ian was ripping off aspects of Dragon Ball writing and battles without understanding what makes those tick. In comparison, the Metal Virus comic was essentially a retread of this with how reused the story structures are.

  • @kaisokusekkendou1498
    @kaisokusekkendou1498 5 годин тому +3

    To keep with your previous analogies, this is like someone invited to your home asking "where's the kitchen?"
    You know what this is about and don't have to wait until they are squating over your table before you want to kick them out.

  • @RogerBacon_sh
    @RogerBacon_sh 3 години тому +4

    Sonic too? Well, fk you Sega. That means no money from me, and I was really looking forward to Sonic x Shadow. Thanks for letting me know!

  • @vi6ddarkking
    @vi6ddarkking 8 годин тому +61

    Honestly Sega was so close.
    They canceled Hyenas and slapped the guys at Creative Assembly.
    The finally got the Sonic franchise back on track with the Movies and Frontiers.
    The Shadow portion of this game is awesome. But they just had to face plant at the last moment.
    Honestly the only reason I'm not madder is that the modders will likely have the censorship removed with in the month.

    • @luxTenebris1
      @luxTenebris1 8 годин тому +12

      problem the mods that change it will propably be banned from every big Modding side

    • @vi6ddarkking
      @vi6ddarkking 8 годин тому +16

      @@luxTenebris1 Unlikely.
      Sonic mods have their own site run by fans.
      And no one in the community is happy about this at most their apathetic.

    • @luxTenebris1
      @luxTenebris1 7 годин тому +3

      @@vi6ddarkking just wait we still talk about the west here

    • @WllKiedSnake
      @WllKiedSnake 6 годин тому +3

      Golden Axe doesn't have a chance with current Sega.

    • @manoftruth0935
      @manoftruth0935 6 годин тому +2

      @@WllKiedSnakeprobably for the best. The female characters would’ve been turned into Larry Croft with how Sega buckles to the “modern audience”

  • @x7ameedo700
    @x7ameedo700 6 годин тому +4

    Sickness and Rot, who TF is doing all this!

  • @umath6392
    @umath6392 5 годин тому +2

    ส่วนใหญ่ก็จะเป็นเรื่องเงินๆทองๆที่คอรัปชั่นกันน่ะล่ะนะ แต่การเซ็นเซอร์สื่อในตลาดขาว เรตอายุ เรื่องทางเพศ โป๋ปอร์น จะมีแขนงร่วมในการหวังผลอีก2อย่างน่ะ 1.คือการผูกขาดทางการค้าและขึ้นราคาสินค้า(ส่วนใหญ่จะเป็นสินค้าที่เกี่ยวกับเรื่องทางเพศสื่อบันเทิงสำหรับผู้ใหญ่รวมถึงกิจและการให้บริการทางเพศที่ถูกควบคุมโดยรัฐบาลหรือกลุ่มอิทธิพลน่ะ เพราะหมุนเวียเบิกจ่ายกันผ่านธนาคารน่ะล่ะนะ ซึ่งมันจะส่งผลถึงด้านอื่นด้วยน่ะ อย่างราคาที่ดิน ราคาสินค้าบางประเภทที่มีส่วนกับย่านอบายมุกอย่างเครื่องดื่มมึนเมาและยาเสพติดรวมไปถึงสถานบริการและสถานบันเทิง) 2.การกระตุ้น-ส่งเสริมเรื่องการเพิ่มจำนวนประชากรในประเทศเพื่อหวังผลในทางการเงินที่เป็นการใช้จ่ายหมุนเวียนในประเทศ , ความซวยก็เลยตกมาอยู่ที่คนทำงานกับผู้บริโภคล่ะนะ ส่วนพวกเซ็นเซอร์พวกการเมืองก็ดูดตังค์ไปอย่างเดียวน่ะ ซึ่งจะสังเกตุได้ง่ายๆเลยว่าการเซ็นเซอร์จะเริ่มที่ประเทศที่มีการคอรัปชั่นรุนแรงและผลกำไรจากกิจการที่มีข้อห้ามทางกฏหมายกำกับที่จะไปถึงพวกคอรัปชั่นมากกว่าประเทสอื่นจะมีเหตุเกิดก่อนน่ะ , ส่วนเรื่องภาพลักษณ์ที่เป็นความดูดีและจริยะธรรม เป็นความจอมปลอมของการเมืองอยู่แล้วล่ะนะ แค่ข้ออ้างของพวกคอรัปชั่นที่ฉกฉวยผลประโยชน์แล้วกลบเกลื่อนปิดบังความผิดน่ะ , ในไทยเองก็มีกระทรวงวัฒนะธรรมเอาไว้สร้างปัญหาทุกอย่างที่พูดมาเลยล่ะนะ จะเป็นการออกฏหมายประกอบการกล่าวอ้างประเพณีและวัฒนะธรรมน่ะ แถมน่าจะเป็นต้นแบบที่ซีไอเอเอาไปใช้เซ็นเซอร์เลยด้วยน่ะ(ถึงไทยจะเจอทั้งการเซ็นเซอร์และดีอีไอในประเทศแบบที่เป็นอยู่ตอนนี้มาตลอด แต่ช่วงค.ศ.1990 อเมริกา ยุโรป ญี่ปุ่น ไม่ได้อาการหนักขนาดไทยนี่น่ะ จะมาหนักข้อช่วง2000-2010ขึ้นไปนี่ล่ะนะ เลยน่าจะเป็นไปได้ว่าการคอรัปชั่นที่มี เป็นทั้งรูปแบบและความเป็นไปเดียวกันล่ะนะ) .

  • @ZakRas
    @ZakRas 3 години тому +3

    Generations originally had a lot of complaints over how dumbed down the writing seemed to be in spite of there being pretty much no story beyond the initial premise - it was a different time for the Sonic fanbase, 2013 hadn't happened yet.
    SEGA top brass have been VERY involved with the writing for the Sonic franchise since 2017, following the past nightmares that Ken Penders created for them. The biggest change the franchise has seen since then is trying to make Amy less of a one-note fangirl over Sonic. I can see a legit profitable move there to give a potential young girl audience a character that could draw them in, while also making her less of an annoyance to young boys... I say from having been 10 years old in the past. I never played the Adventure games until adulthood, so Heroes was my intro to Amy.
    The real problems come with them actively tweaking Rouge's outfit so her back is far less exposed - for those who haven't seen it, the rim of her suit now clips straight through the middle of her wings. Ian Flynn whose the head guy for writing Sonic nowadays gets a lot of flack for any creative decision made, but he's been very open that anything he writes and makes it out to the public is gone over with a fine-tooth comb by the head-honchos at SEGA.
    Am I happy about these changes?
    - The Amy stuff? I get it, though fiddling with what is still a remaster isn't the smartest decision.
    - Small dialogue changes to specifically smarten up the characters to match how they're depicted in other titles? Okay.
    - Small dialogue changes to remove some bite or banter? That's bad.
    - Rouge's outfit. They changed her design in 2004 only to end up making an even more sexualised outfit, so reverted back to her original iconic outit. They know they can't get away with putting her in something else... that does not make overt attempts to make 4Kids level edits acceptable.

  • @NathanSifuGaming
    @NathanSifuGaming 8 годин тому +15

    There may have been a time that the remasters were exciting, but those days are LONG gone. In most cases they don't even raise the poly count, so you could get your "remaster" by just running an emulator at max settings. Just play the originals anyway, they're FINE.

    • @superplayerex2431
      @superplayerex2431 7 годин тому +6

      The Sonic Generations "remaster" literally looks almost identical to the original game, the only reason you'd want to get it over the original is to play the new content centered around Shadow that they've added into it.
      Though, it's not like you have much of a choice in terms of spending your money on a video game since the original Sonic Generations was delisted from all the digital stores. The only way to get it now is through bundles of multiple games.

    • @WllKiedSnake
      @WllKiedSnake 6 годин тому +2

      Not everyone plays on PC. Or has any interest in PC. And Sonic Generations at a higher framerate on Xbox was delisted digitally. I guess you could still get the disc. But digital wise it's gone.

    • @NathanSifuGaming
      @NathanSifuGaming 4 години тому +1

      @@WllKiedSnake True enough, and I wasn't for the longest time, soooort of not exactly interested now either. However, once I found a computer with the specs that made it possible to be a heavy duty emulator? I've been enjoying it ever since.

    • @WllKiedSnake
      @WllKiedSnake 4 години тому +1

      @NathanSifuGaming I'm really not interested in getting a PC just for emulation. I got all the games already. And I mean I have everything.

    • @NathanSifuGaming
      @NathanSifuGaming 4 години тому +1

      @@WllKiedSnake that's cool of ya got'em! I had physicals for quite some time, but I got more into emulation as the hardware failures started increasing. The last straw for me was the super Nintendo port getting completely borked out of nowhere. I like the emulation not just for the enjoyment, but the preservation now too. It's so great to revisit games (that I legit had bought and paid for at some point).

  • @TheMeta141
    @TheMeta141 6 годин тому +3

    how bullied were these people that ANY problem is an apocalypse to them? oh no sonic is pushing her face away. get over it. THIS is why the industry is dying.

  • @kazineverwind5267
    @kazineverwind5267 4 години тому +12

    Gods I miss old Amy. I actually LIKED boy-crazed Amy Rose, contrary to the zoomers that play Sonic nowadays. She's just CUTE! JUST FUCKING CUTE!

  • @beauwalker9820
    @beauwalker9820 4 години тому +18

    At this point, it almost feels like Amy isn't even allowed to show any attraction to Sonic anymore at all.
    They probably wouldn't even allow Chowder and Panini nowadays anymore either. Why is it "offensive" for a young girl to have a crush on someone now? Are they implying it's bad to like or love someone?

    • @zore5872
      @zore5872 4 години тому +9

      Yes or rather, stereotypical girly things are "problematic".
      Its like these ppl never been around actually crazed ppl before, that they never turned on the news or here the things they say. Its as ridiculous as it is frustrating.

    • @MaverickhunterXZero
      @MaverickhunterXZero 3 години тому +5

      And the only people who like this arrd the ones that want Amy to be gay.

    • @beauwalker9820
      @beauwalker9820 3 години тому +5

      @@MaverickhunterXZero There are some who want every Sonic character to be that. (And frankly when every character in a series is that, then it feels like no character is unique. Look at "Hazbin Hotel")
      I remember a girl on a forum I used to go to got angry that Tails had a crush on a girl fox in "Sonic Boom." I'm starting to think "heterophobia" is a thing.

    • @zore5872
      @zore5872 3 години тому

      @@MaverickhunterXZero .....what???

    • @MaverickhunterXZero
      @MaverickhunterXZero 3 години тому +5

      @beauwalker9820 it is. They all cry about the age gap between Sonic and Amy, but never complain about Sonix and Tails, Rouge and Blaze, Amy and Blaze, or even Amy and Cream shipping.
      It is just the fact she's canonical straight. That's why they love in the West she is starting to hate she had a crush on Sonic. Then why is she here?

  • @theredknight9314
    @theredknight9314 4 години тому +4

    Oh come on.
    Sonic is supposed to be edgy. That was his marketing.
    Now they have gone soft.
    Whyyyy SEGA

    • @chimerschang
      @chimerschang 3 години тому +1

      THIS. THIS PRECISELY, *THANK* YOU.

  • @aeroni
    @aeroni 7 годин тому +3

    Amy started to become a bit of a girl boss during forces and frontiers along of people kinda just glossed over it.

  • @alopexau
    @alopexau 7 годин тому +3

    It's even worse how they censored rouge's bare back in a way that makes her outfit not even make functional sense. Sega just cannot help themselves, they always do something moronic and taint whatever is good.
    Edit: Or how they covered up Rouge's cleavage, and how Knuckles no longer calls classic Sonic fat (and didn't update the animation, so now he just randomly rubs his belly)...

  • @17th_Colossus
    @17th_Colossus 7 годин тому +5

    It's all so tiresome.

  • @DannyG2550
    @DannyG2550 5 годин тому +2

    Stuff like this creates a counter culture, just so they're aware.

  • @Ilyak1986
    @Ilyak1986 8 годин тому +6

    If the twitterati mattered, Forspoken, Unknown9, and Concord would be successes. They aren't. Ignore them, and when a non-woke product comes along, it'll get glowing reviews. Heck, UA-cam should bring back the dislike button. Say NO to toxic positivity.

    • @MaverickhunterXZero
      @MaverickhunterXZero 4 години тому +2

      They throw a fit it doesn't appeal to their sensibilities and attack it.

  • @plumaDshinigami
    @plumaDshinigami 5 годин тому +2

    Comedy is the true sign of equality, after all.

    • @HeyRavenousRaven
      @HeyRavenousRaven Годину тому +1

      The tolerant and oh so virtuous hate comedy which means having fun.
      They hate fun.
      It's pitiful how their hearts still beat with all that not-fun in them.

  • @CellAndroid.
    @CellAndroid. 8 годин тому +25

    I dont even know what i should comment to be honest.

    • @hehheh382
      @hehheh382 7 годин тому +2

      because Lord Neal sensei's your posts?

    • @CellAndroid.
      @CellAndroid. 7 годин тому +3

      @@hehheh382 your way of phrasing is admirable.

    • @hehheh382
      @hehheh382 7 годин тому +2

      @@CellAndroid. glad you like me too ma.
      since year 2 of the H. rajeem (started to get noticable beginning with the withdrawal from a-sten), senseiship has ramped up 8x higher in magnitude.
      You often have to wait for a sensitivity reada to pre-approve yr post. That's if it's not outright algorithmically purjd.

  • @AppleInk
    @AppleInk 5 годин тому +3

    I stopped playing games years and years ago. Monster Hunter World was the last game I bought...and even that had modern audience changes like the body type, and by that I mean girls were very wide along other stuff.
    It's been almost over a decade now, can't wait for this industry to go down in flames.
    Remember when the worst thing we had were day 1 DLC? Yea, those were the days...lol.

    • @yewtewbstew547
      @yewtewbstew547 4 години тому

      If you haven't already, get a semi-decent PC, doesn't need to be anywhere near top end, and play older games from years ago at max settings with high resolution/fps. That, along with emulation, is where the best gaming is at nowadays imo.
      I got nothing against consoles, they used to be amazing, but the lack of/minimal backwards compatibility means you're stuck playing the newest games on console. And unfortunately those mostly suck nowadays.

    • @LoliconSamalik
      @LoliconSamalik 4 години тому

      Are we talking wide as in muscle mass? Because that's nothing new for Monster Hunter. If memory serves me right, this also dated back to Monster Hunter Tri.
      Monster hunter is a very... jovial giant of a series.

  • @RaiosSephi
    @RaiosSephi 8 годин тому +34

    If it doesn't break my immersion, I don't mind the changes.
    But if you're adding wheelchairs in my DnD...
    Stay out of my table.

    • @anom5389
      @anom5389 8 годин тому +26

      The point is it *will* get to a point where it breaks immersion, that’s why it’s important to call it out no matter how small.

    • @RaiosSephi
      @RaiosSephi 8 годин тому +2

      @@anom5389 I do agree but with the example of Resident Evil 4 (2005), they censored Leon's decapitation if you lost to the Chainsaw man for JP for cultural reason.
      Does it break immersion? Not really.
      However, with Silent Hill 2: Remake's changes... it kinda alters the dynamics of interaction between people.
      It makes you care less about the women in-game.

    • @Rize_Back
      @Rize_Back 7 годин тому

      Would adding a necropedozoophile as your sidekick break your immersion?

    • @anom5389
      @anom5389 7 годин тому +17

      @@RaiosSephi my problem is no company has ever gone “ok, we censored these things, that’s it, we’re done now” no. They go “what else can we censor?” That is until they receive enough backlash and dollars lost.

    • @billybonregularjin
      @billybonregularjin 7 годин тому +7

      @@RaiosSephicensoring violence is hardly the same. It can even be funny considering how much anime is made fun of with their giant beams doing 0 damage.
      I don’t recall the Christians insisting we think of the lack of violence in a counterintuitive way either unlike the left insisting on how we should act, how we should think and how we should perceive things.

  • @gossamera4665
    @gossamera4665 Годину тому +1

    I hope the Streisand effect produces many more pictures in that style.

  • @NeoGeo64
    @NeoGeo64 8 годин тому +5

    I can’t believe they did this to sonic of all things. Tbh I never liked the fact that Amy tries so hard to get sonic to love he, which was a popular running gag in the series since her debut in Sonic CD, I remember trying to shake her off of me when I beat Metal Sonic as a kid. Not to mention they changed the dialogue before the final boss here, which sucks ass when it’s supposed to be a remaster of a previously released game! Who even sanctioned these changes to begin with!?

  • @Acidicstudios
    @Acidicstudios 7 годин тому +4

    Tbh, with what they're doing with the comics and how they're trying to actually add in some character development to this series nowadays, this is one of those changes that I don't mind.
    Amy Rose being a psycho-stalker kinda got really old after about 20+ years of it.

    • @breezy3176
      @breezy3176 Годину тому

      Now the real issue is rouge covering up her back thats the real problems here

  • @大-g4b5
    @大-g4b5 40 хвилин тому +1

    Current DEI-ifed Bandai Namco is kind of funny, because it feels like they're floundering around with their heads cut off, uncertain of what to do. It took 5 years after Berseria to make Arise and it ended up beong something kinda middling. UE4 made it look nice and the gameplay was fine, and the story was alright up until the end, but it just doesn't hook the same that the previous Mothership titles did. Maybe it's a creative vision thing.

  • @WllKiedSnake
    @WllKiedSnake 7 годин тому +3

    Well, I guess we'll never get a Shadow The Hedgehog Remaster.

    • @legoclayface
      @legoclayface 5 годин тому +4

      I deadass love that game.

    • @WllKiedSnake
      @WllKiedSnake 5 годин тому +2

      @@legoclayface It's not as terrible as people make it out to be.

    • @Probably_JENOVA
      @Probably_JENOVA 3 години тому

      @@WllKiedSnake You mean a Shadow The Hedgehog remake? Although I’m personally tired of all the modern remakes these days, I wouldn’t mind all that much if a game like Shadow ‘05 and Sonic ‘06 were given remakes considering their flawed design in terms of gameplay and story. I think that more highly flawed games are more deserving of remakes because at least actual improvements can made on their design and quality so that they can potentially have a redemption arc.

    • @Amsel_616
      @Amsel_616 2 години тому

      ​@@Probably_JENOVAShadow 05 it better to just play it on an emulator, as for Sonic 06 at least we yave P06 for the gameplay aspect, so no remake needed when we already got one.

  • @princeCustos324
    @princeCustos324 48 хвилин тому +1

    "You know, Amy, anytime someone calls attention to the breaking of gender roles, it ultimately undermines the concept of gender equality by implying that this is an exception and not the status quo"

  • @starvinmarvin2130
    @starvinmarvin2130 6 годин тому +3

    jesus not even the hedgehogs are safe

  • @deadturret4049
    @deadturret4049 3 години тому +2

    Wow. This change totally ruins the visual gag. Lame.
    The old version of sonic gens is still available on steam through one of those sega classic bundles. Modders are gonna have to fix this.

  • @caseylascallette7269
    @caseylascallette7269 6 годин тому +6

    Sonic the genderblob of color