The San Patricios on BBC Radio
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- Опубліковано 9 вер 2024
- Liam Neeson joins author Michael Hogan and musician Tim O'Brien to honor
the Irish heroes of St. Patrick's Battalion which fought in the Mexican-American War
This content is being made available thanks to the generosity of Sunday Sequence, BBC Radio Ulster, and interviewer Padraig Coyle. Appearances in the audio by Irish actor Liam Neeson and Michael Hogan, author of the Irish Soldiers of Mexico. Music by Tim O'Brien and Paddy Maloney of the Chieftains, and Rafael Gutierrez of the San Patricio Pipe Band.
I'm an Irish Mexican this makes me even more proud of my heritage
Erin Go Bragh
As Mexican I admired those Irish immigrants who fougth against the imperialism, I've always been treated with respect by their heritage.
As the son of an Irish immigrant I am very proud of the San Patricio's. They were honorable and brave warriors who rightly saw the Anglo American invasion of Mexico as the same as the Anglo British invasion and occupation of Ireland. Somos hermanos y hermanas. Viva Mexico y Erin go Bragh.
Gracias mi hermano y Viva Mexico. The Irish originate in the basque region of Spain so we are united by blood, history and common struggles.
All of Britain originates from Spain. It was Spanish Celtic and Iberian sailors who populated Britain.
Anglo Saxons are Germanic. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_people
Aren't the Celts the indigenous people of all Britain, not the Anglo Saxons? In my research the Germanic tribes came later. The Celts were already in Britain thousands of years prior.
Basque were the original people, Celts came later. They settled in Ireland, Scotland and Wales probably England too but were eventually overrun by Germanic and Norman tribes.
it moves me that even knowing that it was a war they couldn't win they decided to fight with us thanks Ireland for having such brave sons, St Patrice Battalion for your sacrifice, in my country you always be heroes we are very proud of you and very grateful, i always tell the youngest how a group of mostly Irish and Germans fought an died with us that day. we love you RIP 12 /09/1848
God bless Ireland !!!!
Forever in debt with Ireland and those brave soldiers! St. Patrick's Battalion may live forever in our hearths...
Galway borders county Mayo where my grandfather grew up on a farm in the family for centuries. I've been to both. Very proud of los San Patricio's and don't care if the anglo Americans consider them traitors that's a badge of honor not shame.
As Mexican.. I'm so proud and thankful of them... not anyone fight for the true and against the evil in the worst circumstances... viva Irlanda - viva México...
Bernard Brennan, an Irish-American tourist from San Francisco, said he learned about the battalion from a Mexican friend. On a recent afternoon, he snapped pictures of a carved stone plaque on the plaza where 16 of the Irish soldiers were hanged.
"In memory of the Irish soldiers of the heroic St. Patrick Battalion, who gave their lives for the cause of Mexico during the unjust American invasion of 1847," the plaque says.
Brennan said he doesn't see the soldiers as traitors.
"As an Irish-American, I'm proud of them," he said. "Sometimes you have to stand up and say, 'What my country is doing is wrong.' I think they're heroes, heroes of conscience."
I agree with Brennan. I'm also Irish-American living in San Francisco, my dad was an immigrant from Ireland. San Patricio's are HEROES not traitors. Anglos invaded Mexico like they did to Ireland and Los San Patricio's said fuck that we are fighting for Mexico and good on them, good men. Viva Mexico y Erin go Bragh.
Long live the San Patricio 's Battalion! brave men for a just cause.
The clip fails to mention that the San Patricios were one of the most successful fighting units on the Mexican side. Santa Ana said that if he'd had six or eight more units like the San Patricios, California, New Mexico, Utah, Nevada, Colorado and Arizona would still belong to Mexico.
+Albert Doyle as Mexican I salute the San Patricios, real heroes.
Albert Doyle We the Mexicans who know the heroism of the Batallón de San Patricio thank deeply their sacrifice toward Mexico
As the son of an Irish immigrant to America I am very proud of Los San Patricio's and don't consider them traitors as many Americans do, they are my heroes and very proud of my Irish heritage.
Bob Scott Long live Ireland. I am Mexican and I totally respect Irishmen for their bravery. Mexico will always be grateful.
Alberto Méndez gracias hermano. As an Irish citizen living in California I will always have my Mexican hermanos y hermanas backs. Feck trumps wall! Viva Mexico y Erin go Bragh!
I agree, Jess. It's a shame. Hopefully as more and more educators are exposed to THE IRISH SOLDIERRS OF MEXICO we will see a demand from history teachers to revise the U.S. history texts. It is long overdue.
The documentary fails to consider that Mexico had abolished Slavery in 1810 (though effective 1821) and so the Mexican States that were barely populated received immigrants seeking land and freedom. This was the main ideological dispute with many US landlords that were in favor of keeping slavery. So Riley and the others (among them Germans, French and Italians
Much thanks to these brave soldiers!!!
History has a lot to teach us ....
Bravo The San Patricios!
Oscar there were many Irish Soldiers who fought on both sides in the Mexican War.
Regardless of the War being right or wrong, hopefully we never forget the sacrifice made by many of these Irish soldiers from both sides of the conflict....
I'd never forget, my family is from Guanajuato, the land that started the Mexican Revolution for indepence from Spain. I have it my blood to be more Mexican than others, I have a vested interest, genetically to want Mexico to survive as a sovereign nation, and therefore I am so thankful and appreciate my Irish brothers helping us against the British colonizers who tried to take our land my brother.
Right or wrong... they were American... NOT British... just land -hungry generals... some, or one who wanted to be President... Scott I think!
Composed primarily of Catholic Irishimmigrants, the battalion also included Germans, Canadians, English, French, Italians, Poles, Scots, Spaniards, Swiss, and Mexicans, many of whom were members of the Catholic Church.[2]
irish and scotish . LONG LIVE WILLIAM WALLACE
Long live to the real QUEEN in the NORTH Tonanzin Guadalupe La MADRE de DIOS erin go bragh
My respect to the irish people,god be with you👍
Too bad the story of the San Patricios isn't included in the history books available to students in the USA.
NOP, ERAN MEXICANOS LOS QUE FORMARÓN VAQUEROS EN ESTADOS UNIDOS, SI HABLAMOS DE EL SUR
the rapers are greengoos non catolics
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@@fantasmspirit54 They are seen as heroes to the rest of the world. Celebrated in Mexico and Ireland .
Celebrated for giving their lives for fighting a Sectarian bloodthirsty army who burned Catholic churches and raped nuns in their Sectarian land grab. Rather be seen as a traitor than identify with that. You must be a proud man 👏
The war America cant remember and Mexico cant forget.
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ERIN GO BRAGH!....VIVA MEXICO!!!
the san patrcios still remembered like mexican heroes, the sanint patrick batallion name is remembered in gold letters in mexican congress
Brilliant !!!
Delighted Liam is narrating as I worked with Liam Neeson,on breakfast on Pluto,made here in Dublin Ireland 🇮🇪But ive also put out my own & a Mexican friend version of this story,& I left nothing out..Check it out as everyone else is,Called,Mexico’s Irish St Patrick’s Battalion under my name..you will see exactly what happened 🇮🇪✌️☘️💚🍀 🇲🇽
I’m 40 yes old and I never believed my mom when she said we were Irish Mexicans. I always assumed we got the pale end of the Spanish genes. But then again I do have green eyes and red hair....
Irish originate in the Iberian peninsula.
I dont give a shit. If Canelo dont have some Irish in him I'll eat my left leg 😂 🇮🇪🤝🇲🇽
Santos Saúl Álvarez BARRAGAN!@@irishpride9867
Viva El Batallon de San Patricio!
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I come from a long lineage of Patricios. I never understood why all the men in our family had the same name and then I took a DNA test and found out I’m only 59% Mexican and I’m 13% Irish and 10% North African and the rest is a mixture of Asian and Middle Eastern. I was shook
The movie One Mans Hero starring Tom Berrenger
What a sad history.
From what I've read, it has been rumored that one of the flags of this battalion was preserved and displayed at Westpoint Academy for some time then taken down at some point and never seen again. I feel that the story has credibility because who the hell would make up a story like that?
Well. being part Irish... Catholic & American... all I can say is ... "It's Complicated"!!!!!! But I admire the Irish for their bravery... and after being so foully mistreated by the British in Ireland & kicked off their own lands... I don't blame them for deserting for the hope of winning land & freedom (afterall that is what they came to America for in the FIRST place!!!)... if they were humiliated & mistreated by the U.S. Army at the time. Thank God Santa Anna didn't have many more of these rough & ready Irishmen... who just wanted their freedom, in the end! Otherwise the map would look very different... but I guess Providence saw it another way & we got the map.... we got!!! God Bless Ireland, The United States of America, & Mexico!
...and yet... as many Irish who left... many more probably stayed (abused as they were!)... So THIS is why we won in the end!!! But the ambitious General Scott didn't become President! ...And the Anti-Slavery General Taylor~ the one reluctant to go to war for "mere land" ... but duty-bound to follow orders, became President!!! That was the one who looked like 'Davy Crockett' in the movie "One Man's Hero"! We got the humbler President... but yep, I think the Mexicans may have been cheated. Yet their government continued to treat them like "peons" even though they abolished slavery before we did. So maybe the Mexican/Texanos did better in the long run when the American/Mexican border was so drastically altered & many fought on our side as well! And at The Alamo! Like I said...
"It's Complicated"!!!
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It's not complicated.. it was a robbery... and as the same way the rivers goes to the sea.. the land get back whom belongs.. Sooner or Later... for example.. Rome.. all the land Rome did conquer got back to their original owners (France, Spain, Germany etc..) The big diference about México.. is that México is a side of USA and a side of the stolen land. It is like France were a side of Quebec... ¿Did you know the US army slaughthered women and children toguether? Millions of Native-Americans people would have survived absolutely the same as Mexicans indigenous in all ancient Mexican territory... if ISRAEL itself (God's people) suffered the wrath of God because of their bad deeds.. I don't want to imagine how will be the price for great nation of the United States paying their faults for a Stolen Land and Innocent People Murdered...
The United States did not keep any of it's promises that they made to the Irish . Mexico gave them citizenship and land grants. Mexico keep their word. To this day you can still spot red head children , decendants of those brave warriors.
One yank hates Saint Patrick's Batallion. ALAS! USMarineRifleman0311, You are quite a jarhead
That guy is quite a shocker.
To Bob Scott...The San Patricios joined the cause for promises of land, money, military commissions, but ultimately it was because they were Catholic as was the Mexican forces they were to fight against. Indeed as badly treated as the Irish were by the US Army it was worse for Mexican Army because many of its officers looked down on their own troops because they weren't of the same class let alone ethnic identity. Only 7 out of 19'Mexican States sent conscripts and the chaos following French leaving in the early 1820s saw Presidents and their Cabinets change so often before the war few knew who would be in authority. The myth that it was a great patriotic cause only came after it was over and 9% of the US Army deserted during the war and even Lincoln who was in Congress spoke against the war as did Frederick Douglas. The story of the San Patricios as freedom fighters isn't entirely honest, nor that they were swayed only by compassion for Mexico cause as it swayed between democracy/dictatorship depending on the year. By the way, I'm Scotch-Irish from my great grandparents and went to Catholic school,to so Anglo scum ma ass......
Richard Mattingly the victors write the history books and if you great grandparents were the immigrants you are nothing but an assimilated Anglo American.
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Dearfainn gur ar an chogadh seo a bhfuil an leagan béarla den amhrán Fernando de chuid Abba bainteach. Sa bhl. 1846 bhí An Gorta Mór i réim sa bhaile in Éireann agus tighearnaí talún ag fáil réidh leis an phobal agus iad ag éag nó ag dul ar imirce. Chaill Méxicanos leath na tíre ina dhiaidh troid in aghaidh 'dream le gunnaí móra ag teacht aduaidh ina dtreo'. No sé porqué pero tenemos una simpatía natural por México!
Not true, Irish people hate Mexicans and Latinos in general.
I wonder if this is the reason why the Irish were hated by USA&mistreated.
I was so shocked to learn this story the first thing i did was run and ask my parents about it (they are Mexican immigrants) the response was (USA and México never went to war with each other) 😣 I realized that they did not have much of an education plus they immigrated at a young age.