Ashley is so beautiful. I hope she and Amanda stay well. And if you are kind to them, I hope you stay well too. Its hard to tell which vos are there to help and who are there to harm for views.
Finally someone who can explain about the monkeys. Thank you! Anna is so interesting. Please do tell who her parents are and how the Titus Troupe came to be. Also the relation of Anna, Toma, and Aaron. Thank you!!
BEAUTIFUL ASHLEY, BEAUTIFUL STORY! THANKS FOR BRINGING THIS INFORMATION ABOUT HER TO LIFE! SHE IS A VERY SWEET PRIMATE AND SHE HELPS WITH CROWD CONTROL AND FIGHTS AMONG THE KIDS IN THE SOVANA TROOPS! I LOVED WATCHING HER SEPARATE ROJO AND A COUPLE OTHERS WHEN THEY WERE FIGHTING! ASHLEY JUMPED RIGHT IN THERE AND PULLED THEM APART!! SHE DIDN'T HURT ANY OF THEM, EXCEPT THEIR FEELINGS MAYBE. SHE'S A VERY SWEET MONKEY AND AMANDA ADORES HER AND I THINK ASHLEY FEELS THE SAME WAY ABOUT AMANDA!!
Thank you. Your work as teacher or " messenger" is much appreciated. Please continue. I'm fascinated. I watched Ashley documentary yesterday and again today. I think it's wonderful that Ashley can produce milk. It's not uncommon in horses. In the past we had an orphaned foal. We had a kind broodmare, much like Ashley, that we put the Orphan with. We bottle fed the foal and within 8 to 10 days thestnut mare produced milk. The stars aligned. These miracles bring such joy. Again thanks
Whether ash produces milk or not, the suckling provides a need to Amanda. I've seen spontaneous lactation in dogs, so I believe it can happen.... but even if she's dry, Amanda gets comfort and Ashley and her bond is strengthened.
Keep up the good work it seems that you love monkeys also we don’t wanna see them being tortured and starved and drugged that’s not what we want we want them to be free and enjoy their babies instead of the babies being taken away thanks again and please be kind to them we all want the best for them and by you doing a great job we will keep watching
I think it's so awesome you have researched the history you have shared! Thank you so much! If ppl don't want to believe you that's their problem, so please don't take their comments to heart! Have a blessed life and thank you again for your heartfelt research you've done!! 😊
I do have a question about Ashleigh Messenger. Do you know where she plugs in her hair dryer every morning to blow dry her hair to make herself look so beautiful every day?
Thank you for sharing the information. You did not have to and we are just grateful you did. We do not know the circumstances in which that mans daughter was in to have to make such a hard decision like that. It must've been hard for her knowing that was her father's much loved companion. I am sure he watches over his Ashley every day. You never know that woman could have a family to care for, be sick, have kids sick.... You don't know so don't judge. I m sure she wasn't like those greedy people who filmed and dumped after 2 years given Ashley's age. I am sure it was hard enough having to let her go and people are judging.
He said she was a single mother that is now battling cancer. She didn't have much of a choice; she did what was a good choice releasing her to the monkey family that loved and accepted her. If i ever get the chance to travel again i would love to go visit and spend hours sitting and watching these amazing monkeys.
Thank you for your answers to this question I am getting to know more about Ashley, whan Lori and Polly were babies Ashley use to nurse them I love Ashely
The question about miscarriage and or stillborn has always bothered me .... finally I did some research myself about her .....I went back as far as possible and went from there.....there was no proof to confirm she was ever pregnant it was always what the vo's commented on video but never proven. I want to thank you for your much needed information and I like many others have heard many different stories.....many don't trust anyone anymore and that distrust has made many skeptical....however I do trust until it is not deserved..... I hope you are successful and I love to hear more about them all !!! Thank you for your efforts in giving us this information . Be well always 🥰🥰🥰
Ashley had 2 pregnancies...in 12/06 she had a girl, channery, she wasn't drinking any milk, they tried soy & goat milk but baby was lactose intolerant and dies 4 days later..Ashley carried that baby around for 4 days, she was finally buried..she had a second girl on 9/07, chanthavy, she was very premature and died the next day..Ashley took this very hard carrying the baby around for 6 days... considering the circumstances of how bad she grieved , Ashley's owner had her sterilized, her tubes were tied on 3/2/08.
Can you do some research on monkey Joyce abandoned into Savana Team? I have grown so fond of her and she appears to have had a hard life. I feel her story would be very interesting!
Joyce is now over of my favorites to watch. She is Beautiful and so selfless. Oh please, tell us more about her. I wish a monkey would groom her as much as she grooms Libby. 😞
I am so thankful for these stories that you are sharing. I will be watching and listening! I am sorry if people critisize you for any reason. You are sharing the things I want so much to hear! I see no reason to question them. You do not have to share this! I am trusting that it matters to you, when you ask the questions, to learn the truth and share the truth. I will go all the way back and listen to the ones you have shared! Thank you so much for putting it on here!
That's not cancer on her bum it actually is a signal to mail monkeys that she's fertile and ready to mate the bigger it gets the more attractive it is to males
Thank you I love these stories please keep them coming I enjoy this so very much an have been learning a lot more about these beautiful monkeys ♥️♥️♥️♥️
Please do a story on Achap. I have heard a story of an elderly man who saw a small male monkey years ago who was obviously abused and he had very particular scar on his nose. I guess some years later he had come across Achap and knew instantly due to the scar that it was the same monkey. I would love to hear more of his back story.
Yes pls do a story on achap. He my is still my favorite male. Also are there any video recording of Ashley coming to the troop? How far back can I find recordings of amari troop ? I started wAtching amari 3 years ago. I was sucked in by baby monkey Lori, amari daughter
@@jamie5339 Me personally I came across a video of SweetPea in 2017 when he was born. That little guy was hilarious between honking like a duck and being addicted to mom's nipple.
@@BrianKeith2006 yes he was. I found back to king Donald I think, I think He was to old & passed down kingship to king Brutus. I think sweet pea was born when around same time. I wonder if there are videos of Ashley under her old name. There are queens names in Ashley and dollys story.when I get time I plan to look those names up. Maybe I’ll get lucky. I also asked vo how far back the owner of Ashley, dolly, and amari started recording. I’ve also tried to find anything to explain Ashley butt pad. Closest I find is hormones.they say she can’t have baby, but still goes in heat. I know other monkeys swell till pregnant . rAdical I Sense she can’t get pregnant those hormones keep her swollen. My 2nd guess is fungal infection. The hotter it is the more she hotter it’s much redder. I’ve seen it crack and bleed even.
Also, I've read that the bubble butt is when they go into heat or maybe when the menistration cycle if only a tubal ligation was done. Her body will still act as though she is able to get pregnant however the eggs can't make it through the tubes and just dissolve away. I had the same thing-a tubal ligation-and still went through menstrual cycles and PMS until menopause. Sucked! But, such is life anyway!! Thanks again!! 😁
#MonkeyMama First, once again I wish to thank you for starting this channel. You are a treasure and I am so glad to see someone who can tell the history of the Angkor Wat monkeys. I may be able to help out a bit with some info I've learned on the questions you received. First, the issue of Ashley's "Bubblebutt". Many female pigtails swell up in their back end when in estrus. Libby was showing signs of this when she was left with Sovanna's group. I wondered if this was her first time & the owner was unprepared to have a female monkey in heat! Anyway, your info that Ashley had her tubes tied instead of being spayed, pretty much cemented my hypothesis. If a female pigtail is unable to conceive, she goes into estrus over and over and over. And since she was around the Amari LT males, she evidently kept them quite worn out! But continuous estrus is hard on the body. Monkeys are hardwired to mate, produce,lactate....repeat. Not go into repeated estrus. So Ashley's swollen rear is a sign of many years of a frustrated reproduction cycle. I've seen her get infections back there; I thought one time it that was bad enough, it could kill her. But she somehow recovered. I always thought she would make an incredible mother. I am SO happy for her. Mothering Pretty/Amanda is what she was born for. I'll try to write more in awhile. Maybe below on this video.. or the next ones you do. Once again, blessings to you and yours. Possessions have a price, but knowledge is priceless, so thank you! 💜🙏🏼
I agree with this hypothesis concerning continual estrus. But i think Cara also was taken for tubal ligation. She has no offspring that we know of. I think the whole family has reproductive issues or Teresa and Bonita would be producing more offspring. We know Rainbow died as a result of the birth of Rose. We don't know, but Ally may be the only one of the 5 of them with a normal reproductive system..... although i am vexed that the family did not hunt Ashley down and have her returned to them after she was removed with others of her troop from Phnom Pros.
@@pogo2076 you mean the family would want Ally (from Phnom Bros) back- not Ashley, right? Also, I was looking at Cara the other day- she seems like a healthy young-ish female. I agree; it is really strange that there are no babies from her. Maybe she is like Ally, as it took Ally years of kidnapping puppies and kittens before she finally had Albert- a purebred. I go back to the thought that it's tough for a female monkey to carry a hybrid fetus. Harder for both mom and baby. Ally may gave been mating with the longtails. She _did_ miscarry.Then finally, she conceived with a PT male (Peanu or whatever his name was- also missing a front bottom arm!). Pongo may be a blessing to the Amber PT girls. Or they may be too messed up or old by now. It's anyone's guess. But studying all of it sure is interesting!😅🙏🏼
Messenger?,,, You had mentioned that one of Ashley's sisters was named Alley. Was that Albert's mother Ally? All I know about her was that she was a released pet. I know she had a couple of still burns before Albert and I wondered if that had something to do with why Ashley has had the same problems. And thank you for sharing this info.
Dear Messenger, I believe you and thank you so much for making this video. My love for monkeys has grown Soo much just but watching videos and when you add information to them it's very enjoyable. Please continue to offer information and I will continue to keep watching! Thank you💛 My God Bless you for your giving Heart💛
I love Ashley. I will never forget how much you cared for and nursed Lori when she was sick. Although she left Ameri Group, I hope she is happy. I want to know how lori is doing at the zoo. I love Lori so much. Please tell me some news about Lori.
@EuniceStone-s9j Thanks for the reply. Lori is alive. Although WLA doesn't provide any news about Lori, the video taken by a Lori fan shows that she is in good health. How do you know about Lori? Ameri is dead, but Lori is alive.
Monkey Mama.... Occasionally could you put the names of the newer monkeys on the screen? I would love to know them by name. I'm familiar with the older ones but some of the new monkeys look alike and I get them confused. Thank you so much for all you do.💛
What's Ashley brothers names.. Is Ajoy related to Ashley . Where Ally was at (Amara/Hybrid group)... I was pretty surprised to read Ally is her sister and Teresa, Cara, Bella.. I did wondered before if the Pigtails were related. Thx u. Love the History story
Why do some pigtail monkeys have big butts? Sexual swellings are enlarged areas of genital and perineal skin occurring in some female primates that vary in size over the course of the menstrual cycle. Thought to be an honest signal of fertility, male primates are attracted to these swellings; preferring, and competing for, females with the largest swellings.
I would like to hear the story about Ally and her baby Albert.where did Ally came from.i know she no longer with us.butvnone the less I would like to know.because she was my Baby.🌹💕💕
I don’t care I love and adore Ashley she’s so gorgeous monkey the best I’ve ever seen I would love and look after her so much she just loves everything and everyone I just wanna hug and cuddle her bless her ❤️❤️❤️❤️😘😘
I stopped subscribing to a lot of the monkey channels after some bad VO's were deliberately hurting monkeys to increase their views. I don't know who to trust & I don't want to support channels that would harm the monkeys that I love watching. I have always wanted to know more about the monkeys life stories. Like where they came from, who their related to, and more. I immediately subscribed to your channel after watching your video on Ashley's story & I look forward to all your future videos!! I would imagine that it's probably easy to accidentally get some facts wrong. Only time will tell whether you are deliberately making up most of the information, but I have no problem trusting you until you prove otherwise. Thank you for opening up a fascinating side to these beloved animals. I pray this will help your channel grow & become incredibly successful. I hope it shows others that they don't have to hurt the monkeys to be successful. Thank you for sharing all of this with us & keep up the good work.
I have also deleted 85% of monkey channels I’d followed. I feel exactly the same way.. Mostly the vo getting comfortable in the viewers coming back. Once I see vo mean to monkeys I delete my subscription. Hurt baby monkeys get more crow.
@@jamie5339 true, I did the same and following just few of them really. What we need in Angkor wat it is more supporting the few good channels they do nice observation and care about monkeys. Here we are on right place watching monkeys history and current updates as well during reading the story👌🐒💕
I watched another monkey Chanel called Arroz Marisco . He fills in Hong Kong and is wonderful at not interfering. HE did several videos about Cambodian monkey channels we watched... it’s eye opening and horrifying in the same breath. He has the receipts to prove the corruption between these channels Navy dam is a big part of the scam Pls go watch
I was hoping that you would answer the question about what's on her behind and why some my Cox have that big lump or whatever you want to call it on their bottom I have often wondered that question and I have never found the answer yet
Hello Sonya Whaley to tell you the truth I don't know either. I know that some viewers did make comments about this. Having to do with mating. I searched high and low for this answer. Scoured the internet. Just to even see if they had a name for the hump. Like all the replies is all I could find. I think it's just part of the breed if you ask me. But don't quote me in that. Because I really don't know the answer. Sorry, I couldn't be of more help. Thanks for watching. MM
#MonkeyMama Before I answer on Nissa & Niko, are you at all familiar with who they were? If not, I can add in a little background for you on them first. I had a very good contact who helped fill in the history of that group- Nissa in particular.😊
@@monkeymomma3257 Okay this what I was told about Nissa, Ally and the others. The person who told me this, said he had grown up at Phnom Bros in Kampong Cham province. He spent time with the monks and was allowed to read the diary that they kept on the lineage of the monkeys there. He said about a decade ago (this was 3 years ago...so ~2008??) a group of pigtails was brought in at the behest of a wealthy man who could no longer care for them. He set up a fund for their feed and care with the owner of the Pagoda. He died, anarchy ensued, and the pigtails mixed with the LTs, creating the hybrids troop, lead by Amara. I remember some of the names of the original females; Ally, Preety, Marima and Nissa. Merima had Merry (a Pigtail) and Teva, a hybrid. Nissa had a daughter but he wasn't sure if she was still around. Nissa had Nikko in 2019. At this point she looked kind of old. And she had epilepsy. Nikko was born preemie and right after his birth, she had a seizure on top of him & no one thought he would survive or even walk. As you can imagine, this nail-biting saga got big views for the VO'S at Phnom Bros: "Would Nikko ever walk? Would Nissa die in a seizure?" etc,etc... It all came to a sudden end on Nikko's 4 month birthday. Nissa was low rank & often resorted to breaking into neighboring garbage cans for food. One of the neighbors got tired of it and put rat poison on their garbage. Nikko bled out by morning, Nissa by the following day. It kind of broke the hearts of us who watched Nikko' s short life. But here is the topper: Nissa was gorgeous. Yes she was old and saggy in the back, but she had the most exotic, beautiful face- like Ashley. That's why people asked if they were related. They both carried themselves regally, and were magnificent to look at. Ashley took my breath away when I saw old videos of her with Amari. Just like Nissa. But what piqued my interest was your mention of Ashley's owner, and if he was the same "rich man" who brought in the Phnom Bros PT troop. I asked many questions of several willing local VO's, but seem to have lost the files of what I wrote down. I'll keep looking. That's it! Feel free to correct!🙏🏼
Wow just wow. You are telling my story girl. Yes, some of the pigtails were released in Kampong Cham Providence. Some of them were also given to friends that lived there. I am not sure why Alley was released with a collar. That falls on the owner. I will however look over my records and see if any of the adult names appear. Sadly, the names given to them after they were released there will not match the records. it doesn't mean they are not related. The only names that were told to me were the most popular pigtails because I asked for those. The daughter of Mr. N I call him the owner. She lives in Siem Reap. So, she didn't keep up with all the ones released there. Only Alley because she was Ashleys sister. Please stay tuned for more details as I keep telling my stories. Mr. N was a monk himself before he left to get married. Please stay tuned. Thank you for telling us this story. MM
@@monkeymomma3257 that's awesome! It feels great to have corroborating narratives from multiple individuals. So glad to find that I actually had some historically correct details to pass on & share. Ally wasn't the only monkey to arrive with a collar. A young LT female (they named her "Collah" lol) was also dumped at the same pagoda. Her collar was made of solid, heavy iron with a locked clasp. She reached the point of maturity and weight gain from motherhood- the VO's were finally compelled to take action. They had get one of the local LEO's to hit her with a knock-out dart, then use an iron cutter to remove it. Her neck fortunately recovered. I don't think Ally's collar was quite as onerous to remove, so she had hers removed sooner. But one could still see the permanent mark it made around her neck. The thing is, anytime a person puts a non-stretchable binding device on a young growing animal, it's either going to mutilate them or slowly asphyxiate them. Both of these girls were lucky- many are not.😔 And the VO'S are known for renaming the abandoned monkeys. They believe that the monkeys are getting a new life, and don't want any possible negative energy of the old to follow them. I am sooo looking forward to reading what you have to share. I have been a natural researcher of animal lineages since I took my Arabian mares histories back through Europe, Africa and the Middle East. I knew these monkeys were special and probably had their own amazing histories and genealogical records. So I'm really excited to learn " _the rest of the story_ " now!🤗🙏🏼
@@cathrinewhite7629In your Phnom Bros information have you come across the name of Jing Jang, he was filmed 2 or 3 years ago, he's the male alpha of the Jing Jang group, he's a hybrid and the most magnificent monkey I've ever seen. The group is pretty much hybrid. Jing Jang's mother was full Pigtail, a released pet, name of Chhor Yi, and father was Longtail. Jing jang's siblings are Jing Ja, Babo and a sister. Do a search on Monkey JingJang on You Tube.
I thought in the earlier video you did about Ashley you said she had been sterilized by her owner after losing two babies. If that's so, how is it that she has a baby in this video?
The guys filming the monkeys buy poached babies and film the newborns until they are a couple months old. Then they abandon them in the Angkor Wat park, most recently with the Sovana Troop. Ashley is in the Amari troop and very close to the Savana Troop, she immediately adopted this little girl because she was female and very young. Females stay with their Mom their entire lives and are more valued than male babies.
@@dw7939 ehhhhhh def would not say that females are “more valuable” than male babies to these monkeys. These monkeys just have an instinctual code they follow as macaques. And males are with mom until usually next baby comes around or mom gets tired of carrying the thing and pretty soon, the males are expected to leave once they get old enough like 3-4 years old. The females stay with the troop forever bc they don’t have to leave, they are welcome to stay or go really. Troop leaders obviously want more females the merrier
To the messenger thank you if it wasn't for you I wouldn't know any of there history Google only knows so much and most of the time it's stuff not related to what I am asking
5 SISTERS ASHLEY, BONITA, THERESA, ALLY, INTOTHNON (MEANS RAINBOW) DIED GIVING BIRTH TO ROSE , ROSE IS HER NIECE, BABY RAINBOW IS HER GREAT NIECE. 3 BROTHERS YOU NAMED THEM, SHE WAS PLACED IN AMARI TROOP FIRST, AMARI WAS HER BEST FRIEND, THEN SHE WENT TO AMBER TROOP THERE, HER SISTER BONITA EXCEPTED HER, SHE FOUGHT MANY WARS, SHE IS KNOWN AS GENERAL ASHLEY....LOVE THEM ALL, OWNER HAS DOCUMENTS AND LINEAGE, DAUGHTER TOOK OVER SINCE HER FATHER DIED OF CANCER, ASHLEY IS VERY SPOILED, SHE IS JEALOUS OF ROSE, OTHERWISE ALL OF THEM ARE WITH AMBER, ALLY WAS SENT FAR WITH BABY ALBERT....IT WAS SAD FOR ALL VIEWERS BUT I KNEW THAT SHE WAS PICKED UP BY OWNER, SPECIAL CAGE FOR HER AND BABY ALBERT, LOVE THESE VIDEOS OF THEM AND THE SISTERS, TO BAD BABY RAINBOW IS WITH LIBBY, POACHERS ARE PLANNING TO MOVE THE LITTLE GROUP OF SAVANNAH, DUE TO THE SISTERS OF GENERAL ASHLEY ATTACKING LIBBY, JUST FOUND OUT BY A VIDEO OF ONE OF THE VO'S BECAUSE GENERAL ASHLEY WON'T PROTECT LIBBY.....BAD FOR ROSE, THESE POACHERS STARTED TO INTERFERE THROWING ROCKS AT THE BONITA AND THERESA TO GO AWAY, THESE POACHERS DIDN'T REALIZED IT'S THEIR HOME AND NOT LEAVING, POOR BABY RAINBOW HAS NO FAULT IN ANY OF THIS, SHE'LL NEVER SEE THEM AGAIN🙋GREAT VIDEO🙋
Ashley is so beautiful. I hope she and Amanda stay well. And if you are kind to them, I hope you stay well too. Its hard to tell which vos are there to help and who are there to harm for views.
Actually easier than you think. 0 are there to help. They are there to make $$$.
It is so wonderful to see how strong the bond has become between Ashleigh and Amanda.
Finally someone who can explain about the monkeys. Thank you! Anna is so interesting. Please do tell who her parents are and how the Titus Troupe came to be. Also the relation of Anna, Toma, and Aaron. Thank you!!
BEAUTIFUL ASHLEY, BEAUTIFUL STORY! THANKS FOR BRINGING THIS INFORMATION ABOUT HER TO LIFE! SHE IS A VERY SWEET PRIMATE AND SHE HELPS WITH CROWD CONTROL AND FIGHTS AMONG THE KIDS IN THE SOVANA TROOPS! I LOVED WATCHING HER SEPARATE ROJO AND A COUPLE OTHERS WHEN THEY WERE FIGHTING! ASHLEY JUMPED RIGHT IN THERE AND PULLED THEM APART!! SHE DIDN'T HURT ANY OF THEM, EXCEPT THEIR FEELINGS MAYBE. SHE'S A VERY SWEET MONKEY AND AMANDA ADORES HER AND I THINK ASHLEY FEELS THE SAME WAY ABOUT AMANDA!!
Thank you. Your work as teacher or " messenger" is much appreciated. Please continue. I'm fascinated. I watched Ashley documentary yesterday and again today.
I think it's wonderful that Ashley can produce milk. It's not uncommon in horses. In the past we had an orphaned foal. We had a kind broodmare, much like Ashley, that we put the Orphan with. We bottle fed the foal and within 8 to 10 days thestnut mare produced milk. The stars aligned. These miracles bring such joy. Again thanks
Whether ash produces milk or not, the suckling provides a need to Amanda. I've seen spontaneous lactation in dogs, so I believe it can happen.... but even if she's dry, Amanda gets comfort and Ashley and her bond is strengthened.
Thank you for your comment. This is very true. MM
Her tears look enlarged..
Thank you so much for your bios. It's very interesting to know some of the history behind these fascinating creatures.
Glad you enjoyed it! Thank you for watching them. MM
Thank you so much for your bios, I love Ashley she reminds me of Alley so much. Xxx
Keep up the good work it seems that you love monkeys also we don’t wanna see them being tortured and starved and drugged that’s not what we want we want them to be free and enjoy their babies instead of the babies being taken away thanks again and please be kind to them we all want the best for them and by you doing a great job we will keep watching
Ashley is so amazing! Love her
I think it's so awesome you have researched the history you have shared! Thank you so much! If ppl don't want to believe you that's their problem, so please don't take their comments to heart! Have a blessed life and thank you again for your heartfelt research you've done!! 😊
I do have a question about Ashleigh Messenger. Do you know where she plugs in
her hair dryer every morning to blow dry her hair to make herself look so beautiful every day?
Hahaha, now that is funny!! I'm cracking up. thanks for the laugh! MM
Thank you for sharing the information. You did not have to and we are just grateful you did. We do not know the circumstances in which that mans daughter was in to have to make such a hard decision like that. It must've been hard for her knowing that was her father's much loved companion. I am sure he watches over his Ashley every day. You never know that woman could have a family to care for, be sick, have kids sick.... You don't know so don't judge. I m sure she wasn't like those greedy people who filmed and dumped after 2 years given Ashley's age. I am sure it was hard enough having to let her go and people are judging.
He said she was a single mother that is now battling cancer. She didn't have much of a choice; she did what was a good choice releasing her to the monkey family that loved and accepted her. If i ever get the chance to travel again i would love to go visit and spend hours sitting and watching these amazing monkeys.
Thank you so much for all your information, it is so fascinating you are lovely for taking the time.
Thank you for your answers to this question I am getting to know more about Ashley, whan Lori and Polly were babies Ashley use to nurse them I love Ashely
You are so welcome!
Would you follow up on Lori and Polly?
The question about miscarriage and or stillborn has always bothered me .... finally I did some research myself about her .....I went back as far as possible and went from there.....there was no proof to confirm she was ever pregnant it was always what the vo's commented on video but never proven. I want to thank you for your much needed information and I like many others have heard many different stories.....many don't trust anyone anymore and that distrust has made many skeptical....however I do trust until it is not deserved..... I hope you are successful and I love to hear more about them all !!! Thank you for your efforts in giving us this information . Be well always 🥰🥰🥰
Thank you so much for watching! MM
Ashley had 2 pregnancies...in 12/06 she had a girl, channery, she wasn't drinking any milk, they tried soy & goat milk but baby was lactose intolerant and dies 4 days later..Ashley carried that baby around for 4 days, she was finally buried..she had a second girl on 9/07, chanthavy, she was very premature and died the next day..Ashley took this very hard carrying the baby around for 6 days... considering the circumstances of how bad she grieved , Ashley's owner had her sterilized, her tubes were tied on 3/2/08.
Can you do some research on monkey Joyce abandoned into Savana Team? I have grown so fond of her and she appears to have had a hard life. I feel her story would be very interesting!
Joyce is now over of my favorites to watch. She is Beautiful and so selfless. Oh please, tell us more about her. I wish a monkey would groom her as much as she grooms Libby. 😞
I am so thankful for these stories that you are sharing. I will be watching and listening! I am sorry if people critisize you for any reason. You are sharing the things I want so much to hear! I see no reason to question them. You do not have to share this! I am trusting that it matters to you, when you ask the questions, to learn the truth and share the truth. I will go all the way back and listen to the ones you have shared! Thank you so much for putting it on here!
Hello Dee, thanks so much for your encouragement. I love that you enjoy my channel and stories. Welcome here. Thanks for watching. MM
That's not cancer on her bum it actually is a signal to mail monkeys that she's fertile and ready to mate the bigger it gets the more attractive it is to males
Thank you I love these stories please keep them coming I enjoy this so very much an have been learning a lot more about these beautiful monkeys ♥️♥️♥️♥️
Hello Fredia Hoffman, thank you so much for your support! MM
I like that you tell stories. Makes it interesting.
Thank you
I love your stories
Glad you like them! MM
Thank You, Monkey Momma, I am very pleased with your story telling. and everything makes a lot of sense. Keep up the good work. Blessings.
Wow, Amanda looks so much like Lucie here!!! Beautiful!!! ❤❤
I thought so too. So are they taking newborns and giving them to friends?
I understood they steel baby's from moms for monkey videos and maybe to replace the beautiful little ones they throw away when they're done with them.
Please do a story on Achap. I have heard a story of an elderly man who saw a small male monkey years ago who was obviously abused and he had very particular scar on his nose. I guess some years later he had come across Achap and knew instantly due to the scar that it was the same monkey. I would love to hear more of his back story.
I do know some history of Achap. I will do a story on him for you.
Yes pls do a story on achap. He my is still my favorite male.
Also are there any video recording of Ashley coming to the troop?
How far back can I find recordings of amari troop ? I started wAtching amari 3 years ago. I was sucked in by baby monkey Lori, amari daughter
@@jamie5339 Me personally I came across a video of SweetPea in 2017 when he was born. That little guy was hilarious between honking like a duck and being addicted to mom's nipple.
@@BrianKeith2006 yes he was. I found back to king Donald I think, I think
He was to old & passed down kingship to king Brutus. I think sweet pea was born when around same time. I wonder if there are videos of Ashley under her old name. There are queens names in Ashley and dollys story.when I get time I plan to look those names up. Maybe I’ll get lucky. I also asked vo how far back the owner of Ashley, dolly, and amari started recording.
I’ve also tried to find anything to explain Ashley butt pad. Closest I find is hormones.they say she can’t have baby, but still goes in heat. I know other monkeys swell till pregnant . rAdical I Sense she can’t get pregnant those hormones keep her swollen.
My 2nd guess is fungal infection. The hotter it is the more she hotter it’s much redder. I’ve seen it crack and bleed even.
@@monkeymomma3257 please do and thank you
Also, I've read that the bubble butt is when they go into heat or maybe when the menistration cycle if only a tubal ligation was done. Her body will still act as though she is able to get pregnant however the eggs can't make it through the tubes and just dissolve away. I had the same thing-a tubal ligation-and still went through menstrual cycles and PMS until menopause. Sucked! But, such is life anyway!! Thanks again!! 😁
I really love watching Ashley she is so very pretty!
#MonkeyMama First, once again I wish to thank you for starting this channel.
You are a treasure and I am so glad to see someone who can tell the history of the Angkor Wat monkeys. I may be able to help out a bit with some info I've learned on the questions you received. First, the issue of Ashley's "Bubblebutt".
Many female pigtails swell up in their back end when in estrus. Libby was showing signs of this when she was left with Sovanna's group. I wondered if this was her first time & the owner was unprepared to have a female monkey in heat!
Anyway, your info that Ashley had her tubes tied instead of being spayed, pretty much cemented my hypothesis.
If a female pigtail is unable to conceive, she goes into estrus over and over and over. And since she was around the Amari LT males, she evidently kept them quite worn out! But continuous estrus is hard on the body. Monkeys are hardwired to mate, produce,lactate....repeat. Not go into repeated estrus.
So Ashley's swollen rear is a sign of many years of a frustrated reproduction cycle. I've seen her get infections back there; I thought one time it that was bad enough, it could kill her. But she somehow recovered.
I always thought she would make an incredible mother. I am SO happy for her. Mothering Pretty/Amanda is what she was born for.
I'll try to write more in awhile. Maybe below on this video.. or the next ones you do.
Once again, blessings to you and yours. Possessions have a price, but knowledge is priceless, so thank you! 💜🙏🏼
Thank you so much for help. I appreciate you a lot.
so, these things do mate for pleasure too ?
I agree with this hypothesis concerning continual estrus. But i think Cara also was taken for tubal ligation. She has no offspring that we know of. I think the whole family has reproductive issues or Teresa and Bonita would be producing more offspring. We know Rainbow died as a result of the birth of Rose. We don't know, but Ally may be the only one of the 5 of them with a normal reproductive system..... although i am vexed that the family did not hunt Ashley down and have her returned to them after she was removed with others of her troop from Phnom Pros.
@@pogo2076 you mean the family would want Ally (from Phnom Bros) back- not Ashley, right?
Also, I was looking at Cara the other day- she seems like a healthy young-ish female. I agree; it is really strange that there are no babies from her.
Maybe she is like Ally, as it took Ally years of kidnapping puppies and kittens before she finally had Albert- a purebred.
I go back to the thought that it's tough for a female monkey to carry a hybrid fetus. Harder for both mom and baby. Ally may gave been mating with the longtails. She _did_ miscarry.Then finally, she conceived with a PT male (Peanu or whatever his name was- also missing a front bottom arm!).
Pongo may be a blessing to the Amber PT girls. Or they may be too messed up or old by now. It's anyone's guess. But studying all of it sure is interesting!😅🙏🏼
@@MickeyMorandini1 Monkey Momma said that the research says they do!
Messenger?,,, You had mentioned that one of Ashley's sisters was named Alley. Was that Albert's mother Ally? All I know about her was that she was a released pet. I know she had a couple of still burns before Albert and I wondered if that had something to do with why Ashley has had the same problems. And thank you for sharing this info.
So sad the breeder who bred these pigtails has pass away. He sure bred beautiful pigtails. Your not seeing these gorgeous solid pigtails any more.
Dear Messenger, I believe you and thank you so much for making this video. My love for monkeys has grown Soo much just but watching videos and when you add information to them it's very enjoyable. Please continue to offer information and I will continue to keep watching! Thank you💛 My God Bless you for your giving Heart💛
You are so kind. Thank you for your support. I really appreciate it.
I love Ashley. I will never forget how much you cared for and nursed Lori when she was sick. Although she left Ameri Group, I hope she is happy. I want to know how lori is doing at the zoo. I love Lori so much. Please tell me some news about Lori.
Lori died
@EuniceStone-s9j
Thanks for the reply. Lori is alive. Although WLA doesn't provide any news about Lori, the video taken by a Lori fan shows that she is in good health. How do you know about Lori? Ameri is dead, but Lori is alive.
It appears to me that Ashley is happy now so what does it matter how she started out in life.
I myself enjoy the stories some i have been watching for a while and some I got attached to so believe or not just enjoy
Thank you for watching. I have many more stories to tell.
was reading the history of Ashley it was great she has a beautiful soul
The bum will swell during estrace “menses”. It seems the macaques that never get pregnant have over grown bums lol
Monkey Mama.... Occasionally could you put the names of the newer monkeys on the screen? I would love to know them by name. I'm familiar with the older ones but some of the new monkeys look alike and I get them confused. Thank you so much for all you do.💛
Yes yes yes pls do. Savanna troop especially !!
What's Ashley brothers names..
Is Ajoy related to Ashley . Where Ally was at (Amara/Hybrid group)... I was pretty surprised to read Ally is her sister and Teresa, Cara, Bella..
I did wondered before if the Pigtails were related. Thx u.
Love the History story
It is common in female pigtails. Called a mushroom, it is angiogenital swelling. Happens during their menstrual cycle.
Why do some pigtail monkeys have big butts?
Sexual swellings are enlarged areas of genital and perineal skin occurring in some female primates that vary in size over the course of the menstrual cycle. Thought to be an honest signal of fertility, male primates are attracted to these swellings; preferring, and competing for, females with the largest swellings.
This is a channel I can learn to love watching if it stays like this and no drama and stupidity
I hope you will stay for a long time. Thank you for watching. MM
@@monkeymomma3257 yw keep up the good job
We love the monkeys, and we love u too💕💕
AWWWWW, you are so kind! Thank you so much!! MM
I would like to hear the story about Ally and her baby Albert.where did Ally came from.i know she no longer with us.butvnone the less I would like to know.because she was my Baby.🌹💕💕
I want people to look out for these animals.
Thank you for enlarging the words👍👍👍
My pleasure 😊
I don’t care I love and adore Ashley she’s so gorgeous monkey the best I’ve ever seen I would love and look after her so much she just loves everything and everyone I just wanna hug and cuddle her bless her ❤️❤️❤️❤️😘😘
She is an extraordinary monkey. Thank you for support and being here.
I stopped subscribing to a lot of the monkey channels after some bad VO's were deliberately hurting monkeys to increase their views. I don't know who to trust & I don't want to support channels that would harm the monkeys that I love watching.
I have always wanted to know more about the monkeys life stories. Like where they came from, who their related to, and more. I immediately subscribed to your channel after watching your video on Ashley's story & I look forward to all your future videos!! I would imagine that it's probably easy to accidentally get some facts wrong. Only time will tell whether you are deliberately making up most of the information, but I have no problem trusting you until you prove otherwise.
Thank you for opening up a fascinating side to these beloved animals. I pray this will help your channel grow & become incredibly successful. I hope it shows others that they don't have to hurt the monkeys to be successful. Thank you for sharing all of this with us & keep up the good work.
I have also deleted 85% of monkey channels I’d followed. I feel exactly the same way.. Mostly the vo getting comfortable in the viewers coming back. Once I see vo mean to monkeys I delete my subscription.
Hurt baby monkeys get more crow.
@@jamie5339 true, I did the same and following just few of them really. What we need in Angkor wat it is more supporting the few good channels they do nice observation and care about monkeys. Here we are on right place watching monkeys history and current updates as well during reading the story👌🐒💕
I watched another monkey Chanel called Arroz Marisco . He fills in Hong Kong and is wonderful at not interfering.
HE did several videos about Cambodian monkey channels we watched... it’s eye opening and horrifying in the same breath. He has the receipts to prove the corruption between these channels
Navy dam is a big part of the scam
Pls go watch
I used to believe them to. Your making a mistake.
Muchas gracias por la explicación, cómo hacen para identificar a cada macaco ? Yo amo a rojo 😍
I was hoping that you would answer the question about what's on her behind and why some my Cox have that big lump or whatever you want to call it on their bottom I have often wondered that question and I have never found the answer yet
Hello Sonya Whaley to tell you the truth I don't know either. I know that some viewers did make comments about this. Having to do with mating. I searched high and low for this answer. Scoured the internet. Just to even see if they had a name for the hump. Like all the replies is all I could find. I think it's just part of the breed if you ask me. But don't quote me in that. Because I really don't know the answer. Sorry, I couldn't be of more help. Thanks for watching. MM
Ashley is so so beautiful
I would like to know which of these pigtails is Ashley, the mother or the baby?
#MonkeyMama Before I answer on Nissa & Niko, are you at all familiar with who they were? If not, I can add in a little background for you on them first. I had a very good contact who helped fill in the history of that group- Nissa in particular.😊
Please do
@@monkeymomma3257 Okay this what I was told about Nissa, Ally and the others. The person who told me this, said he had grown up at Phnom Bros in Kampong Cham province. He spent time with the monks and was allowed to read the diary that they kept on the lineage of the monkeys there.
He said about a decade ago (this was 3 years ago...so ~2008??) a group of pigtails was brought in at the behest of a wealthy man who could no longer care for them. He set up a fund for their feed and care with the owner of the Pagoda. He died, anarchy ensued, and the pigtails mixed with the LTs, creating the hybrids troop, lead by Amara.
I remember some of the names of the original females; Ally, Preety, Marima and Nissa. Merima had Merry (a Pigtail) and Teva, a hybrid. Nissa had a daughter but he wasn't sure if she was still around.
Nissa had Nikko in 2019. At this point she looked kind of old. And she had epilepsy. Nikko was born preemie and right after his birth, she had a seizure on top of him & no one thought he would survive or even walk.
As you can imagine, this nail-biting saga got big views for the VO'S at Phnom Bros: "Would Nikko ever walk? Would Nissa die in a seizure?" etc,etc...
It all came to a sudden end on Nikko's 4 month birthday. Nissa was low rank & often resorted to breaking into neighboring garbage cans for food. One of the neighbors got tired of it and put rat poison on their garbage. Nikko bled out by morning, Nissa by the following day.
It kind of broke the hearts of us who watched Nikko' s short life. But here is the topper: Nissa was gorgeous. Yes she was old and saggy in the back, but she had the most exotic, beautiful face- like Ashley. That's why people asked if they were related. They both carried themselves regally, and were magnificent to look at. Ashley took my breath away when I saw old videos of her with Amari. Just like Nissa.
But what piqued my interest was your mention of Ashley's owner, and if he was the same "rich man" who brought in the Phnom Bros PT troop.
I asked many questions of several willing local VO's, but seem to have lost the files of what I wrote down. I'll keep looking. That's it! Feel free to correct!🙏🏼
Wow just wow. You are telling my story girl. Yes, some of the pigtails were released in Kampong Cham Providence. Some of them were also given to friends that lived there. I am not sure why Alley was released with a collar. That falls on the owner. I will however look over my records and see if any of the adult names appear. Sadly, the names given to them after they were released there will not match the records. it doesn't mean they are not related. The only names that were told to me were the most popular pigtails because I asked for those. The daughter of Mr. N I call him the owner. She lives in Siem Reap. So, she didn't keep up with all the ones released there. Only Alley because she was Ashleys sister. Please stay tuned for more details as I keep telling my stories. Mr. N was a monk himself before he left to get married. Please stay tuned. Thank you for telling us this story. MM
@@monkeymomma3257 that's awesome! It feels great to have corroborating narratives from multiple individuals.
So glad to find that I actually had some historically correct details to pass on & share.
Ally wasn't the only monkey to arrive with a collar. A young LT female (they named her "Collah" lol) was also dumped at the same pagoda.
Her collar was made of solid, heavy iron with a locked clasp. She reached the point of maturity and weight gain from motherhood- the VO's were finally compelled to take action.
They had get one of the local LEO's to hit her with a knock-out dart, then use an iron cutter to remove it. Her neck fortunately recovered.
I don't think Ally's collar was quite as onerous to remove, so she had hers removed sooner. But one could still see the permanent mark it made around her neck.
The thing is, anytime a person puts a non-stretchable binding device on a young growing animal, it's either going to mutilate them or slowly asphyxiate them. Both of these girls were lucky- many are not.😔
And the VO'S are known for renaming the abandoned monkeys. They believe that the monkeys are getting a new life, and don't want any possible negative energy of the old to follow them.
I am sooo looking forward to reading what you have to share. I have been a natural researcher of animal lineages since I took my Arabian mares histories back through Europe, Africa and the Middle East.
I knew these monkeys were special and probably had their own amazing histories and genealogical records. So I'm really excited to learn " _the rest of the story_ " now!🤗🙏🏼
@@cathrinewhite7629In your Phnom Bros information have you come across the name of Jing Jang, he was filmed 2 or 3 years ago, he's the male alpha of the Jing Jang group, he's a hybrid and the most magnificent monkey I've ever seen. The group is pretty much hybrid. Jing Jang's mother was full Pigtail, a released pet, name of Chhor Yi, and father was Longtail. Jing jang's siblings are Jing Ja, Babo and a sister. Do a search on Monkey JingJang on You Tube.
Why is the mommy’s bottom so big is it a tumor? Is she okay? She is a beautiful monkey
There tail rolls up like that when they older and can't have babies
I've read that the large "bump" that they get is when they are sexually mature. All short tail females will get them I guess.
This baby monkey looks like Poni, Nuis daughter
Where are baby Albert
Do you go see Ashley too? Now that you know a little history?
Can you update Ashley’s story including who her siblings are?
Hello Alexis, I can probably do that. I still have a few stories about Ashley that I have not shared yet. Just give me time. Thanks for watching. MM
Was there a donation to the park in this man's name for Ashley and her Amari troop
That was so long ago. They did not have recourses like that back then. Thank you for watching. MM
Who takes care of their needs. Not the people that just film for money
Baby monkey verry funny
I appreciate you very much! You are awesome!🤗🤗
You are so welcome. I appreciate you too. Thank for watching.
YES! Your stories add an important addition to understanding the nature of these fascinating creatures.
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So I guess everyone is ok with people dumping or placing their pets back in the forest for reasons we are not aware of.
disregard previous questions, should have watched the whole video.
I thought in the earlier video you did about Ashley you said she had been sterilized by her owner after losing two babies. If that's so, how is it that she has a baby in this video?
The guys filming the monkeys buy poached babies and film the newborns until they are a couple months old. Then they abandon them in the Angkor Wat park, most recently with the Sovana Troop. Ashley is in the Amari troop and very close to the Savana Troop, she immediately adopted this little girl because she was female and very young. Females stay with their Mom their entire lives and are more valued than male babies.
@@dw7939 ehhhhhh def would not say that females are “more valuable” than male babies to these monkeys. These monkeys just have an instinctual code they follow as macaques. And males are with mom until usually next baby comes around or mom gets tired of carrying the thing and pretty soon, the males are expected to leave once they get old enough like 3-4 years old. The females stay with the troop forever bc they don’t have to leave, they are welcome to stay or go really. Troop leaders obviously want more females the merrier
@@dw7939 you don't know that
To the messenger thank you if it wasn't for you I wouldn't know any of there history Google only knows so much and most of the time it's stuff not related to what I am asking
You are so welcome. I hope you enjoy my channel. I will be doing a lot of stories and history. Amari Troop is coming. MM
5 SISTERS ASHLEY, BONITA, THERESA, ALLY, INTOTHNON (MEANS RAINBOW) DIED GIVING BIRTH TO ROSE , ROSE IS HER NIECE, BABY RAINBOW IS HER GREAT NIECE. 3 BROTHERS YOU NAMED THEM, SHE WAS PLACED IN AMARI TROOP FIRST, AMARI WAS HER BEST FRIEND, THEN SHE WENT TO AMBER TROOP THERE, HER SISTER BONITA EXCEPTED HER, SHE FOUGHT MANY WARS, SHE IS KNOWN AS GENERAL ASHLEY....LOVE THEM ALL, OWNER HAS DOCUMENTS AND LINEAGE, DAUGHTER TOOK OVER SINCE HER FATHER DIED OF CANCER, ASHLEY IS VERY SPOILED, SHE IS JEALOUS OF ROSE, OTHERWISE ALL OF THEM ARE WITH AMBER, ALLY WAS SENT FAR WITH BABY ALBERT....IT WAS SAD FOR ALL VIEWERS BUT I KNEW THAT SHE WAS PICKED UP BY OWNER, SPECIAL CAGE FOR HER AND BABY ALBERT, LOVE THESE VIDEOS OF THEM AND THE SISTERS, TO BAD BABY RAINBOW IS WITH LIBBY, POACHERS ARE PLANNING TO MOVE THE LITTLE GROUP OF SAVANNAH, DUE TO THE SISTERS OF GENERAL ASHLEY ATTACKING LIBBY, JUST FOUND OUT BY A VIDEO OF ONE OF THE VO'S BECAUSE GENERAL ASHLEY WON'T PROTECT LIBBY.....BAD FOR ROSE, THESE POACHERS STARTED TO INTERFERE THROWING ROCKS AT THE BONITA AND THERESA TO GO AWAY, THESE POACHERS DIDN'T REALIZED IT'S THEIR HOME AND NOT LEAVING, POOR BABY RAINBOW HAS NO FAULT IN ANY OF THIS, SHE'LL NEVER SEE THEM AGAIN🙋GREAT VIDEO🙋
Rose's mother Intothnon (Rainbow) was Theresa's daughter, Ashley's niece.
Ashley is great-aunt to Rose and baby Rainbow's great grand-aunt.