Notice here how the pompous club owner tells him how much he admires Phil, and Ochs calls him on his sh*t and says (paraphrased) "so how come you never gave me a break when I needed it." Ochs is always fearless about the truth and not afraid to bite the hand that feeds him.
Rachel Zack You bet. If women can fantasize about Elvis despite his being gone, then I am allowed to imagine that Phil Ochs is making love to me while he is dressed in a suit and necktie.
@User 3477 No. A handsome man dressed in a suit and necktie blocks me from thinking about any type of food or soda. If a handsome man such as Phil Ochs drinks a cocktail, that is a lot different from food. The glass can help us approach each other for our first kiss. In case I didn’t make myself clear, Phil Ochs was and is very handsome.
If a male singer-songwriter is famous for his talent and intelligence, women feel ashamed of themselves for commenting on his handsomeness, so 99 percent of them don’t. Ever hear a female express her feelings about whether James Taylor is easy on the eyes?
Thank you so much for uploading this. I'm not sure how I hadn't seen this video before. Phil was an amazing human being and it makes me sad to know that at least half of him thought he was actually dull when he says... "I haven't changed over the years, I'm just as dull as ever."
Though nervous, he seems as though he's in a full manic episode, possibly brought on by nerves and drugs and the fear of failure that finally killed him, by his own hand. Such a loss, a waste, a shame. He was and always will remain amazing. We were lucky to have him for as long as we did.
Roberta Casper I don’t notice what you notice. He seems nervous, period, to me. I do not see evidence of drug use, not even marijuana. He does not seem drunk or even slightly tipsy. On a positive note, video of Phil Ochs talking causes me to become sexually aroused.
I don't think there was so much going on in his head at that instant. You're about to perform and theres just not that many variables, the variables come about when life is less clear cut. Times in a club before a performance is clear cut, so no variables.
I don’t know how knowledgeable you are about Phil Ochs’s life, but he didn’t kill himself because of a fear of failure. He had a severe depression after the anti-war protest in Chicago that ended in violence at the hands of the police. Which caused mass disillusionment within him, and more disillusionment in the world happened later on after many conflicts in the nation, (such as watergate, assassinations of many civil rights leaders, and America refusing to stop sending troops over to Vietnam). All of it eventually got to him, seeing so much darkness in the world, and not having a way to speak out against it, after his vocal chords got damaged and hindered his singing abilities. Along with feeling like there’s no helping the world, almost as though he felt the world was too far gone. All of that, along with substance abuse to help swell those depressive states, culminated in him hanging himself. It’s a sad story, but people’s hatred and prejudice, that he saw almost everywhere and the nation seeming to embrace depravity, is what truly killed him. It all finally got to him and worsened his mental illnesses he had because of it, and the end result is completely tragic.
I noticed that too. The nervous laughter and quick stuttering. Something about how he bows his head a bit makes me feel like he was really struggling here. He was a good guy. It's sad to see him in this state.
The traits between Phil Ochs & Kurt Cobain mental wise are fascinating both suffered badly with mental health RIP Phil thank u for all the great songs.
phil seems to me so different from your average FOLK singer. He looks more like your average member of parliament by todays standards but I just love the depth in his songs.
Nashville Kat yes, the only drugs Phil took were Valium and Chardonnay. He was otherwise anti-drug as he felt doped up people couldn't change the course of history. His bi-polar disease made him come across a bit manic at times, even before his total breakdown in the 70's.
how can someone so badass be so nervous on camera? that interviewer certainly didn't help.....he cut Phil off when he was gonna talk about the lyrics on Pleasures of the Harbor and asked way too many dumb questions
You misunderstand where his "bad ass" attitude and cynicism come from, I think. Anxiety, genius, caring, and sensitivity in a violent, chaotic, and unjust world would make anyone nervous. His mind was so quick, something I share, and when you add anxiety and some insecurity/self-esteem issues, it seems he had a need to be accepted and loved... which is probably part of the reason he wrote so many great protest songs in the first place!!! I didn't know him, but if he's anything like me (who am also a badass, LOL :O), he could probably be nervous in a room all by himself, because his sensitivity and intelligence make it hard to shut things out, and there's a lot going on inside of him. That's why he talked so fast, because he had a lot to express, but I get the feeling he didn't always have permission to express his feelings, and(in spite of his many words), a lot of emotion was held inside. A tough, macho father, maybe? He took a lot in, giving him the empathy and insight to be a great songwriter, but as David Bacon said below, this made it hard for him to survive amidst the pain and suffering, and/or lack of understanding of the world around him. A lot like a canary in a coal mine... they let others know when things are wrong, because their sensitivity makes them a lot more vulnerable, and they feel it before others do. That's what makes "prophets", as well-the ability to "see" things that others don't see, but there's a price to be paid for it. Not only because of the burden of feeling so much, but because the society as a whole doesn't understand, so he's relatively alone, trying to get others to "see" what he sees, but being criticized and attacked for it by those who don't.
@@EPA18 If he was, which is possible I guess, it was probably because he was so sensitive, intelligent, and anxious in general, and had trouble coping with that.
@@imgonnasayitnow I don't know his drug history but other commenters "here and there - mostly there" to quote the humorous Phil, indicated he was taking drugs at this time. Funny, the first song I ever heard by Phil was "I'm Gonna Say It Now" and I think "Phil Ochs in Concert" is his best album. I was floored by "Say it Now" but it had little to do with the radical content; I just liked the melody and Phil's smarts and people who question authority and rules. But I don't think full-blown Leftism works and I feel the PC environment today is dangerous and dumb. I understand the motivations but the Left pisses me off all the time. And since I'm always "Gonna say it now" I would say most everyone on this site is misguided even if well-intentioned. And I tell anyone on the Far Right the same thing.
@@michaelmiller7160 Phil was almost certainly not on drugs at this time, at least nothing harder than marijuana, which he used sparingly because it made him paranoid. he took Valium on occasion for his anxiety but he didn’t abuse it until the 70’s when his alcoholism took hold. the only instance I know of where Phil was on “uppers” of any kind was when he was on his gold suit tour in 1970, and that made him miserable. he actually had a pretty hard-nosed anti drug stance. he also notoriously had crippling bouts of stage fright, so his nervous energy here is par for the course. if you listen to literally any other interview he gave, you’d know that this is just how he talked. he had a stammer and a train of thought that went all over the place. this was all normal for him.
Some of Phil Ochs best: Changes. love this morbidity. 10 on 1 to 10 When I'm Gone. Beautiful song rate 10 there but for Fortune sweet. rate 10 Cross my Heart. Moving, strings and orchestration (Bach Baroque) make the song. rate 9. Celia. rate 9. A fascist prisoner sings a song to his lady. Corny by gut-wrenching. When will i lie beside my Celia 'neath the tree oh when will Celia come to me? Listen to this song and feel the tears almost fall Flower Lady rate 10. exponential poignancy. Maybe my favorite
With regard to Phil’s handsomeness there are two variables to consider: he was convinced that he needed plastic surgery if he was striving for the big time but ironically his brother Michael Ochs was also handsome in his distinctive way but didn’t go under the knife. In my opinion, everything that Phil could be conceptualised as being unique, was distinctive from his voice with its natural tremolo. And as a writer, like Dylan, he began with topical material but would later accomplish what I consider to be a profound literary approach to his songs which peaked with his work of genius, the first of his albums to appear on Herb Alpert’s label (with Jerry Moss): A & M, entitled “Pleasures of the Harbor” which greatly expanded his audience.
I'm not shocked he went under the knife. Phil Ochs was Jewish and a lot Jewish people in the mid century ended up getting nose jobs because it was seen as a way to assimilate or just avoid antisemitism. I don't think Phil Ochs even had a particularly large nose to start with, it just wasn't tiny like Dylan's was, so he felt he needed to get surgery.
Yeah the interviewer to me doesn’t really get the depth of Ochs’ talent. I’ve only discovered him through an Australian guitarist called Daniel Kelly. Ochs wrote beautiful and meaningful songs.
I thought I was the only one to love his voice and music and great songwriting. Phil's orchestral albums were really good. And the Lovin Spoonful was not just folk. Sure his Folk style was great too. He might be good with a rock band behind him, just like Dylan. I don't hate the leftists but if we followed them we'd stop being a nation. Moderation is key.
@@michaelmiller7160 If we has followed Phil millions less Americans, Vietnamese, Cambodians, and Chileans would have died over pointless warfare and violent coups that took place solely to further U.S. interests. We’re too big to be one single nation effectively, anyways. Doomed from the start.
Notice here how the pompous club owner tells him how much he admires Phil, and Ochs calls him on his sh*t and says (paraphrased) "so how come you never gave me a break when I needed it." Ochs is always fearless about the truth and not afraid to bite the hand that feeds him.
My oh my was he ever handsome.
Rachel Zack You bet. If women can fantasize about Elvis despite his being gone, then I am allowed to imagine that Phil Ochs is making love to me while he is dressed in a suit and necktie.
@@kelloggs5473 ..while eating Kellogs Cereal.. I assume..
@User 3477 No. A handsome man dressed in a suit and necktie blocks me from thinking about any type of food or soda.
If a handsome man such as Phil Ochs drinks a cocktail, that is a lot different from food. The glass can help us approach each other for our first kiss.
In case I didn’t make myself clear, Phil Ochs was and is very handsome.
If a male singer-songwriter is famous for his talent and intelligence, women feel ashamed of themselves for commenting on his handsomeness, so 99 percent of them don’t. Ever hear a female express her feelings about whether James Taylor is easy on the eyes?
Give him one would ya . Drop your kegs. Take one for the team . Suit you sir suit you
"rather than just sticking a rock band behind me" love this guy
"you gotta be one of my favorite club owners." Cold af
Thank you so much for uploading this. I'm not sure how I hadn't seen this video before. Phil was an amazing human being and it makes me sad to know that at least half of him thought he was actually dull when he says... "I haven't changed over the years, I'm just as dull as ever."
Thank you so much for posting this!
I miss him and i wasn't even alive when he was.
just the words, no music.
Love Phil.
This is the first tine U ever heard him in an interview. Grateful for post!!!
Though nervous, he seems as though he's in a full manic episode, possibly brought on by nerves and drugs and the fear of failure that finally killed him, by his own hand. Such a loss, a waste, a shame. He was and always will remain amazing. We were lucky to have him for as long as we did.
Roberta Casper I don’t notice what you notice. He seems nervous, period, to me. I do not see evidence of drug use, not even marijuana. He does not seem drunk or even slightly tipsy.
On a positive note, video of Phil Ochs talking causes me to become sexually aroused.
I don't think there was so much going on in his head at that instant. You're about to perform and theres just not that many variables, the variables come about when life is less clear cut. Times in a club before a performance is clear cut, so no variables.
I don’t know how knowledgeable you are about Phil Ochs’s life, but he didn’t kill himself because of a fear of failure. He had a severe depression after the anti-war protest in Chicago that ended in violence at the hands of the police. Which caused mass disillusionment within him, and more disillusionment in the world happened later on after many conflicts in the nation, (such as watergate, assassinations of many civil rights leaders, and America refusing to stop sending troops over to Vietnam). All of it eventually got to him, seeing so much darkness in the world, and not having a way to speak out against it, after his vocal chords got damaged and hindered his singing abilities. Along with feeling like there’s no helping the world, almost as though he felt the world was too far gone. All of that, along with substance abuse to help swell those depressive states, culminated in him hanging himself. It’s a sad story, but people’s hatred and prejudice, that he saw almost everywhere and the nation seeming to embrace depravity, is what truly killed him. It all finally got to him and worsened his mental illnesses he had because of it, and the end result is completely tragic.
I noticed that too. The nervous laughter and quick stuttering. Something about how he bows his head a bit makes me feel like he was really struggling here. He was a good guy. It's sad to see him in this state.
I don’t get the impression that he’s manic at all. I get the impression that he’s autistic and has social anxiety.
The traits between Phil Ochs & Kurt Cobain mental wise are fascinating both suffered badly with mental health RIP Phil thank u for all the great songs.
Yes indeed...sidenote I always felt Kurt would of gone on the folky route ala Phil Ochs maybe its just my odd wish.
phil seems to me so different from your average FOLK singer. He looks more like your average member of parliament by todays standards but I just love the depth in his songs.
The Bricks in the background, always give it away as the Bitter End.
not the real bitter end, but a studio
Fascinating. Phil is a total nervous wreck here.
He's all hopped up on goofballs
Filling the Void Revues Goofballs? Uppers and downers? What year is this?
Filling the Void Revues Phil was totally opposed to drugs. He suffered from bi-polar disorder.
Nashville Kat Supposedly he would take valium to help with his nervousness, and he definitely was popping pills during his gold suit shows.
Nashville Kat yes, the only drugs Phil took were Valium and Chardonnay. He was otherwise anti-drug as he felt doped up people couldn't change the course of history. His bi-polar disease made him come across a bit manic at times, even before his total breakdown in the 70's.
To handsome for you phil
how can someone so badass be so nervous on camera? that interviewer certainly didn't help.....he cut Phil off when he was gonna talk about the lyrics on Pleasures of the Harbor and asked way too many dumb questions
You misunderstand where his "bad ass" attitude and cynicism come from, I think. Anxiety, genius, caring, and sensitivity in a violent, chaotic, and unjust world would make anyone nervous. His mind was so quick, something I share, and when you add anxiety and some insecurity/self-esteem issues, it seems he had a need to be accepted and loved... which is probably part of the reason he wrote so many great protest songs in the first place!!!
I didn't know him, but if he's anything like me (who am also a badass, LOL :O), he could probably be nervous in a room all by himself, because his sensitivity and intelligence make it hard to shut things out, and there's a lot going on inside of him. That's why he talked so fast, because he had a lot to express, but I get the feeling he didn't always have permission to express his feelings, and(in spite of his many words), a lot of emotion was held inside. A tough, macho father, maybe?
He took a lot in, giving him the empathy and insight to be a great songwriter, but as David Bacon said below, this made it hard for him to survive amidst the pain and suffering, and/or lack of understanding of the world around him. A lot like a canary in a coal mine... they let others know when things are wrong, because their sensitivity makes them a lot more vulnerable, and they feel it before others do. That's what makes "prophets", as well-the ability to "see" things that others don't see, but there's a price to be paid for it. Not only because of the burden of feeling so much, but because the society as a whole doesn't understand, so he's relatively alone, trying to get others to "see" what he sees, but being criticized and attacked for it by those who don't.
LonelyAtTheTop79 He's not nervous - he's HIGH. He's drugged up.
@@bookguitarguy Very insightful.
@@margaretross9150 Thanks, Margaret. :O)
@@EPA18 If he was, which is possible I guess, it was probably because he was so sensitive, intelligent, and anxious in general, and had trouble coping with that.
Very hard to watch this with the state he is in.
he had anxiety, but he was doing relatively fine around this time. he had a stutter is all
@@imgonnasayitnow bipolar too.
@@michaelmiller7160 I’m aware. it’s just strange to say he’s in a “state” during this very stable time in his life, just because he’s a little nervous
@@imgonnasayitnow I don't know his drug history but other commenters "here and there - mostly there" to quote the humorous Phil, indicated he was taking drugs at this time. Funny, the first song I ever heard by Phil was "I'm Gonna Say It Now" and I think "Phil Ochs in Concert" is his best album. I was floored by "Say it Now" but it had little to do with the radical content; I just liked the melody and Phil's smarts and people who question authority and rules. But I don't think full-blown Leftism works and I feel the PC environment today is dangerous and dumb. I understand the motivations but the Left pisses me off all the time. And since I'm always "Gonna say it now" I would say most everyone on this site is misguided even if well-intentioned. And I tell anyone on the Far Right the same thing.
@@michaelmiller7160 Phil was almost certainly not on drugs at this time, at least nothing harder than marijuana, which he used sparingly because it made him paranoid. he took Valium on occasion for his anxiety but he didn’t abuse it until the 70’s when his alcoholism took hold. the only instance I know of where Phil was on “uppers” of any kind was when he was on his gold suit tour in 1970, and that made him miserable. he actually had a pretty hard-nosed anti drug stance. he also notoriously had crippling bouts of stage fright, so his nervous energy here is par for the course.
if you listen to literally any other interview he gave, you’d know that this is just how he talked. he had a stammer and a train of thought that went all over the place. this was all normal for him.
"Dull as ever" oh boy...
Some of Phil Ochs best:
Changes. love this morbidity. 10 on 1 to 10
When I'm Gone. Beautiful song rate 10
there but for Fortune sweet. rate 10
Cross my Heart. Moving, strings and orchestration (Bach Baroque) make the song. rate 9.
Celia. rate 9. A fascist prisoner sings a song to his lady. Corny by gut-wrenching. When will i lie beside my Celia 'neath the tree oh when will Celia come to me? Listen to this song and feel the tears almost fall
Flower Lady rate 10. exponential poignancy. Maybe my favorite
With regard to Phil’s handsomeness there are two variables to consider: he was convinced that he needed plastic surgery if he was striving for the big time but ironically his brother Michael Ochs was also handsome in his distinctive way but didn’t go under the knife. In my opinion, everything that Phil could be conceptualised
as being unique, was distinctive from his voice with its natural tremolo. And as a writer, like Dylan, he began with topical material but would later accomplish what I consider to be a profound literary approach to his songs which peaked with his work of genius, the first of his albums to appear on Herb Alpert’s label (with Jerry Moss): A & M, entitled “Pleasures of the Harbor” which greatly expanded his audience.
I'm not shocked he went under the knife. Phil Ochs was Jewish and a lot Jewish people in the mid century ended up getting nose jobs because it was seen as a way to assimilate or just avoid antisemitism. I don't think Phil Ochs even had a particularly large nose to start with, it just wasn't tiny like Dylan's was, so he felt he needed to get surgery.
who is the club owner?
Fred Weintraub
Who is the interviewer?
Fred Weintraub
@@imgonnasayitnow Thank you!
Phil Ochs- Hindi gwapo ang bulsa nguni't gwapo ang paninindigan.
Date Please"
It has to be early 1967 right before leaving for LA (May/June).
When was this Interview originally filmed
It has to be early 1967 right before leaving for LA (May/June).
This From The Bitter End 12 November 1967. Fred Weintraub was the owner. WOR-TV New York
Source: David Cohen's "Bio-Biliography"
He talks, gets up to perform a song, and the video abruptly ends.
Yeah the interviewer to me doesn’t really get the depth of Ochs’ talent. I’ve only discovered him through an Australian guitarist called Daniel Kelly. Ochs wrote beautiful and meaningful songs.
He was fake smoking there
How can you tell?
@@graceferguson7041 He never inhaled.
I think he had quit cigarettes by this time, but he was obviously nervous so he probably had asked someone for a cigarette as a nervous habit
Hey Phil, you won't get the effect of the cigarette if you don't inhale. Leave that to Bill Clinton.
I had no interest in his yippie politics, but I loved his voice and music.
yippie?
@@dimetrodonz Google it.
I thought I was the only one to love his voice and music and great songwriting. Phil's orchestral albums were really good. And the Lovin Spoonful was not just folk. Sure his Folk style was great too. He might be good with a rock band behind him, just like Dylan. I don't hate the leftists but if we followed them we'd stop being a nation. Moderation is key.
@@dimetrodonz Yippies: Youth International Party
@@michaelmiller7160 If we has followed Phil millions less Americans, Vietnamese, Cambodians, and Chileans would have died over pointless warfare and violent coups that took place solely to further U.S. interests. We’re too big to be one single nation effectively, anyways. Doomed from the start.