The Cure’s best album? “Songs of a Lost World” analysis

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  • Опубліковано 16 лис 2024

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  • @kaysienothin
    @kaysienothin 11 днів тому +60

    Think I speak for most of us when i say I'd watch the hell out of the 'Professor skye reviews old music' channel

  • @Shubdoblous
    @Shubdoblous 11 днів тому +37

    As Kyle from South Park once said, "Disintegration is the best album ever", my favorite after their darkest album - p****graphy. Loved this album, their most mature one. Let's see what Professor Skye has cooked. Sad how Morrissey is deteriorating his legacy with time, while Robert and co. are making such immaculate records. AVAA in advance.

    • @daviddowsett1658
      @daviddowsett1658 10 днів тому +2

      Pornography is not a naughty word.

    • @spiffy8576
      @spiffy8576 10 днів тому

      Morrissey has continued to make good records post 2000 he’s certainly made better ones than The Cure and I’m a fan of both.

    • @Shubdoblous
      @Shubdoblous 9 днів тому +2

      @@spiffy8576 Absolutely! I rarely question the quality with Morrissey, that is what he delivers. It's the subtext of the nonsense which ruins the music sometimes. The same way Kanye is making it tough to listen his recent work, without cringing a bit which is sad cuz he is one of my all time favorite artists.

    • @RolandoRatas
      @RolandoRatas 9 днів тому +1

      I thin that 'Standing On A Beach' compilation album is the best The Cure album ever (the B-Sides could been an album in their own right) but I'll have to check out this new album though.

    • @mapndo2337
      @mapndo2337 9 днів тому +1

      ​@@spiffy8576he's made some but so have The Cure....The Smith's are NOT a better band than the cure so let's just get that FACT OUT OF THE WAY.

  • @matthewbrown7572
    @matthewbrown7572 11 днів тому +9

    I kind of missed out on The Cure when I checked out of popular music for about 30 plus years. Oh, I heard their hits and generally liked them, but it wasn't until this album that I really listened to them, and I'm loving this album .It's ambient, rocking, majestic and emotionally poignant. Nice review.

  • @marcomaraggi2982
    @marcomaraggi2982 11 днів тому +7

    The Cure are definitely a romantic band. Keats is also quoted in the booklet of this album. I really feel like in the first half of their career they were more of an expressionist band, as if a Munch painting was put into music in a way that was never done before or replicated after (Pornography above all). Disintegration, mine and probably everyone’s favourite, is a quintessential romantic record, in the Sehnsucht sense, a nostalgia that transcends the body and affects the nature in a colossal way. A Friedrich painting. This one is romantic too in that sense, but it seems like the mixture of all the best eras from them (not the pop ones but the seriously artistic ones) . An incredible record indeed. Robert Smith is an artist, a musical painter like few others. Thanks professor

  • @Violette-k1w
    @Violette-k1w 10 днів тому +10

    SONGS OF A LOST WORLD
    ✨️Charts N° 1 in 🇬🇧 👈🏻

  • @picturesofyou39
    @picturesofyou39 11 днів тому +26

    Not sure if it's The Cure's best album, but it's their most concise album and far better than anything we could have hoped to receive from a band 45 years into their career.

    • @curly_wyn
      @curly_wyn 8 днів тому +1

      Definitely not their best. NOT even close.

  • @2dimensional98
    @2dimensional98 11 днів тому +7

    AVAA! I found that I also tend to mentally group The Smiths and The Cure in some sort of "rivalry" and I've seen a lot younger fans of both compare the two in a similar way. As for why I have no real idea, maybe due to the fact that both are seen as the definitive "sad boy" alternative bands of the 80s? (sweeping generalization)

  • @malikdillahunt4524
    @malikdillahunt4524 11 днів тому +3

    A besides channel where you talk about music you grew up on is a fantastic idea. I’ve already subscribed #avaa

  • @CarlosVinicius136
    @CarlosVinicius136 10 днів тому +2

    AVAA! 35:34 This is such a perfect description of The Cure. The first time I listened to The Cure I didn't understand any word Robert Smith said, but the atmosphere captured me like nothing else I've ever heard.

  • @channelstupendous9419
    @channelstupendous9419 10 днів тому +1

    I like your delivery. Happy to sub.

  • @jenski5338
    @jenski5338 11 днів тому +4

    Avaa! That said. Kiss Me, Kiss Me, Kiss Me was always where it was at for me.

  • @Evan-900
    @Evan-900 11 днів тому +3

    The Cure's discography wildly shifts throughout their career in quality. Some of the poppy albums are bad and some of the darker gothic rock albums are bad. And then sometimes you get an album like this from them, which is amazing. You never really know what you will get from these guys.
    The Ophelia painting by Millais is a perfect visual representation of Disintegration. Disintegration is the best album by The Cure, hands down. It's not even a contest.
    The other thing that is worth noting is that the live performance of this album reveals how fantastic this release actually is. The instruments ring through so much clearer than the album and I think it captures the artistic vision of the release even better than the studio album.

  • @RolandoRatas
    @RolandoRatas 9 днів тому +1

    Robert Smith was born in Blackpool in the North of England but I think as a young child he moved down South to Crawley where he was raised.

  • @maryburke5423
    @maryburke5423 8 днів тому

    AVAA Nice review Prof. Ancient post punk era Cure fan of the first 4 albums, SOALW is like holding hands with an old and dear friend when we have both grown old and been thru so much.
    I’m glad the Cure are finally speaking to you. As you’ve described, they make space for us to sit with feelings, they’ve were doing that for me from the first time I heard 10:15, back in 1979.
    I know yr an album only guy, but if you haven’t seen the replay of the album launch show, I cant recommend hearing those songs played live, more highly.

  • @channelstupendous9419
    @channelstupendous9419 10 днів тому +1

    When I was a kid I had a denim jacket full of patches from bands like Metallica, iron maiden and megadeth. The one patch that really stood out was the cure one.

  • @j_nightshade
    @j_nightshade 11 днів тому +1

    Well Robert Smith played with Siouxsie and the Banshees. lol! Smith has also been involved in other musical projects, including stints in 1979 and 1982-84 as guitarist with Siouxsie and the Banshees, and a side project in 1983 with Banshee bassist Steven Severin called The Glove. I saw them in 2023 in San Diego. Let me tell you, this was one of the best shows I’ve seen in awhile! Hands down. Robert Smiths voice sounds like he is in his 20’s ! Very clear, and what a show. If they go on tour again you should go. Thanks for reacting to the album

  • @maxjohnson8802
    @maxjohnson8802 11 днів тому

    AVAA and I love to see the 1.Outside respect, your content is amazing and I'm glad to have run across your channel

  • @Meloera
    @Meloera 10 днів тому +1

    Regarding the comment on Drone:Nodrone guitar solo sounding like late Bowie. Reeve Gabriel’s plays on this album which he played on Bowie’s 1998 album Hours.

  • @Bananaminion12376
    @Bananaminion12376 11 днів тому

    AVAA always love your videos, keep up the good work professor

  • @swafty5813
    @swafty5813 11 днів тому +4

    AVAA
    Smiths is to Cure as Oasis is to Blur. Main difference is that Blur actually grew into a different act entirely and Oasis stagnated hard. May be my Damon Albarn bias, those two bands were both "britpop" but not very similar, by the time both outfits peaked in the "battle" they had.

    • @hw343434
      @hw343434 11 днів тому

      Exactly. Smiths never gave themselves a chance to evolve. The Cure did and thus offer a LOT more variety in their sound/songs

    • @maryburke5423
      @maryburke5423 10 днів тому +1

      Mmmm. Fan of Cure since 1979….there was no battle between the Smiths /Cure. They formed at different times, diff parts of the country. Really no musical similarities except for those looking at the 80s with hindsight only. Bands slagged each other off then, the Morrisey/ Smith thing was not unique.
      I comment a lot lately on the early - mid 80s because I was there for all of it, and it wasn’t the way people see it in the rear view. Much mores diverse and complex. There were hundreds of bands and many different scenes.
      Nothing like the cut and dried rivalry of Britpop.
      When The Smiths appeared The Cure were in the depths of Pornography, then The Top, which came out of Robert’s acid eating phase. Long long way from what The Smiths were doing.

  • @pinkyfloydyfan1
    @pinkyfloydyfan1 8 днів тому

    Mr. AllMusic published a very elaborate description and review! Yours too! Moreover, they perfectly demonstrate the full extent of this high-quality opus. I fully agree with the review.
    This is one of The Cure's best albums with:
    1. Pornography;
    2. Disintegration;
    3. Songs...;
    4. The head...;
    5. Kiss me...
    Several other reviews mention that this album is beautiful, but depressing. This album is more than that.
    The atmosphere, the sounds and the content form the expression of an inspired and skillfully presented work. That these critics consider the album depressing is an opinion, but the subjects treated and chosen go in the direction of a tragedy.
    When an artist chooses to talk about suicide, death, the end of things, it cannot be otherwise!
    Besides, if we focus on the titles alone, we find the essence of the subject: ... alone... nothing is forever... fragile... war... nodrone... never... end... There is nothing joyful there!!!
    Once the subject is understood, we enter the musical world and that is where EVERYTHING makes sense! The dissonant guitars, the repetitive and bewitching drums, the heavy bass, the atmospheric synths... everything conjures to transport us to the afterlife, if only we are sensitive to it.
    So I will dance on the Endsong as a man alone before the fate of the world with dark glasses that are worth as much as those of the pleasant but superficial ditties of the current songs and... so sad by their scope!
    The Cure deals with sad things, it is true, but my god it is joyful to get carried away and fly away with them!!!
    I will be at their next show in Quebec to celebrate their vision... and I will not be the only one... living from this collective divergence, shared with the joy in my heart of dancing on the sadness of this world!

  • @elmark3550
    @elmark3550 11 днів тому +2

    You should really do an Outside review

  • @etamommy
    @etamommy 11 днів тому

    AVAA I always like to see your reviews and so I was excited to see that you had reviewed this long time in the waiting new cure record. I am not a fan of hip-hop music. I’m not a fan of pop music. I am not a fan of rap music. So mostly I’m listening to alt rock rock and country rock. Oh let’s include punk whatever new wave was is anyway I listened to your review both the lead into it and then the meet of the actual review of the album and could agree with most everything although I always like the cure ever since I heard them, and an American was that boys don’t cry recognizes sort of a compilation, but I always thought that was great. I really kind of thought that guy. Robert Smith is an old soul even from the start. But the one thing I really want to say is that so many people talk about how this is a grim album in terms of its lyrical content. I guess when you really listen to it in an analyze it it is, but I have to say that it does not feel bleak or ponderous at all to me and I think that comes down to the music. The music is just freaking fantastic as you mention several times. I’m glad you talked about that fantastic beat in endsong. I love the cure’s drums so unique! Actually they just have a sound - guitars and drums and his voice that is great!

  • @Bette_B123
    @Bette_B123 9 днів тому +5

    Music snob and old-school Cure fan here. Yes, shoegaze would absolutely exist without Disintegration. MBV’s Isn’t Anything (generally seen as the first shoegaze album) came out in 1988, a year before Disintegration. But also, the Jesus and Mary Chain and the Cocteau Twins were probably the two biggest shoegaze precursors. Smith liked and championed shoegaze, and Disintegration’s popularity probably helped people to discover shoegaze, but shoegaze was gonna exist regardless.

  • @Chrismooar
    @Chrismooar 10 днів тому

    Great review. I always love your insights. Hey, Skye, what is the animal at 1.34 popping out of the bushes behind your right shoulder? lol

  • @westofvenus8950
    @westofvenus8950 10 днів тому

    Avaa and thanks for the shoutout for Blue (my Proust loving wife!). Asking her for a favourite will keep her busy but I’d bet she comes back with Disintegration; we’ll see and I’ll let you know!

  • @evetpd2467
    @evetpd2467 8 днів тому

    I was driving to work when I listened to Alone for the very first time. The sun had just set. The skies were light blue and still had that yellowish tint to it. I will never forget it.

  • @maxwellmacintyre3889
    @maxwellmacintyre3889 10 днів тому

    AVAA please make the bowie outside video definitely a top 5 for me that album totally rules

  • @finnstewart4820
    @finnstewart4820 7 днів тому

    AVAA.
    i highly recommend the albums seventeen seconds and faith. they are records from their early days but they’re awesome

  • @rafaeladarocha7607
    @rafaeladarocha7607 9 днів тому

    Please I would love to listen more of your thoughts on the Outside album!!!!

  • @jenski5338
    @jenski5338 11 днів тому

    And yes please prof. Sky talks about old music channel. Though I disagree with you about the Bowie one too. Lol. But yes!!!! Homestar Runner!!!!😂

  • @michaelemonds
    @michaelemonds 11 днів тому +2

    AVAA to be honest IMO , I think the new album is a decent comeback album. Disintegration & Pornography are for me their all time classic albums.

  • @MadailinBurnhope
    @MadailinBurnhope 10 днів тому

    I enjoyed this video, subbed

  • @BrokenFever-e4z
    @BrokenFever-e4z 11 днів тому +8

    As a Disintegration worshipper, I can say without bias that Shoegaze would not exist. But Disintegration wouldn’t exist without Cocteau Twins.

    • @bwpm1467
      @bwpm1467 6 днів тому

      Nor without New Order.

  • @vineethpuli5079
    @vineethpuli5079 11 днів тому

    AVAA I don’t really know any of these old bands / artists. But I do know Close to You/Never Can Say Goodbye because Frank Ocean did a beautiful cover of both of them combined in his 2017 festival run

  • @Xena10000
    @Xena10000 10 днів тому

    Hi Skye can you please make a video on Sematary. His music is this interesting blend of early 2010’s Chicago drill and noise/metal music. He’s built his own universe/persona/brand around his music which I find very inventive and artistic, it also very much boarders on absurdity which is why it goes over a lot of peoples heads but the music is AMAZING and I think you’ll have a ridiculously fun time listening to him. Albums to Listen to are Rainbow bridge 3, Butcher house, and Bloody Angel. He is the best white rapper out right now in my opinion and I STAND on that.

  • @mikehunt5926
    @mikehunt5926 11 днів тому +2

    well my mom likes the cure and my dad likes new order so you’re not wrong

  • @victorrojas3183
    @victorrojas3183 9 днів тому

    As obvious as it is I didn't see any mention of it but maybe I just went too fast through the comments. Robert Smith is the guitar player on Hyaena, one of the Siouxsie albums shown. Also co-writer on every song on the record except for one. Including Dazzle.

  • @s0mers4ult
    @s0mers4ult 11 днів тому

    I’d love to see a 2nd channel for you to talk of the classics that you love. could be an interesting spin if for this imaginary channel, you instead used modern framing devices to talk about older albums. AVAA

  • @nicklindsay5443
    @nicklindsay5443 11 днів тому +1

    Please school us on why outside is an amazing Bowie record. AVAA

  • @bnhli7190
    @bnhli7190 10 днів тому +3

    I can’t tell whether this video is ridiculous or tedious. Both probably. It has absolutely nothing interesting to say about this amazing album.

    • @elrickstero
      @elrickstero 9 днів тому

      yah it’s bad. full of arbitrary anecdotes and opinions that he can’t objectively support. just another internet dork trying to intellectualize his own ignorance while grasping to rope toxic masculinity into a conversation about a band he didn’t really appreciate in the first place.

  • @pj20alpinevalley
    @pj20alpinevalley 6 днів тому

    AVAA, similar feelings overall. This album is fuking great!

  • @brunobuenahora9613
    @brunobuenahora9613 10 днів тому

    My fav album of the year.
    Nice house

  • @CeeLoGreen666
    @CeeLoGreen666 10 днів тому +1

    aaaaaaand he never changed the angle lol

  • @AnubidIsAwful
    @AnubidIsAwful 11 днів тому

    AVAA. More old music talks would be great!

  • @ajmwhiteside
    @ajmwhiteside 10 днів тому

    Been a cure fan since I was 12. I'm 48 now. When I heard disintegration I did think it was music for girls. Anything before that not so much but hey I was 13. I still prefer Anything up to head on the door

  • @richmoreno9938
    @richmoreno9938 10 днів тому

    Nice review. I enjoyed the back story on your perspective and feelings about The Cure. I can tell a lot went into this album both musically and lyrically but the 𝑴𝑼𝑺𝑰𝑪 itself hasn’t really grabbed me. There’s nothing that sticks in my mind after multiple attempts to listen to it in its entirety. Also, I do not like the tinny and distorted bass tone on the first two tracks which is really distracting, in my opinion. I really want to like this record but it feels a bit linear to me. No real peaks or dynamics in terms of tempo, memorable choruses, etc. Just feels a little flatline to my ears.

  • @kismetrina
    @kismetrina 10 днів тому

    Can you do a breakdown of Dans ma ruche please.love it. From the boys

  • @JamsandTea
    @JamsandTea 9 днів тому

    AVAA part of the comparison between The Smiths and The Cure came from Morrissey and Smiths trading blows in the press over the years. Needless to say, these shots made Robert look good and Morrissey look worse lmao
    Also Ministry over Nine Inch Nails is crazy, do better Teenage Skye 💀
    EDIT: I think part of why you may have found it hard to get on with them and the comparison to the art movement may come from the Cure’s album covers, which, I say as a massive fan, are just not all that appealing. Their best and most iconic album cover is Disintegration and a lot of that does look like the painting you described. Take a look at those other album covers like ‘Wish’ or ‘Bloodflowers’ (both excellent albums)and they’re… dodgy. Not exactly alluring. Also it’s very funny that you say that about Siouxsie Sioux, since Robert played guitar for her and helped make some of their songs lmao

  • @Zwirlie
    @Zwirlie 10 днів тому +1

    AAVE (Mount Eerie - Night Palace review please)

  • @juliadurgee518
    @juliadurgee518 11 днів тому

    Strong Sad!

  • @PabloHernandez-rr1or
    @PabloHernandez-rr1or 10 днів тому

    AVAA, i used to date a girl that loved the cure, shoutout to her

  • @dmerls8571
    @dmerls8571 10 днів тому

    Songs of a Lost World is a good old person's end-of-life album. It reminds me of Bowie's final album, Blackstar. But it's not close to their best album.

  • @wagstaff6135
    @wagstaff6135 11 днів тому

    AVAA - I rarely comment because I feel an urge to write the equivalent of 12 pages (single spaced) to every video. I relate a whole lot to your divisions of like/don’t like from the 80s bands. (I never got The Smiths, though, in spite of many attempts and stamps of approval from other musicians from whom I often otherwise found guidance). Also, at one point you make me think of a song I recommend to you (not for a video, but just,) as a sort of innoculation. (Yes, I am one of your minority of viewers who is not only older than 30, but older than you, Professor!) -- if you don't know it, give a listen to Pete Townshend and Ronnie Lane's "Just Want to Be Misunderstood." Unless it's just called "Misunderstood." In which case listen to that.

  • @morten3093
    @morten3093 10 днів тому +1

    You gotta own DIsintegration

  • @SSS1984MMM
    @SSS1984MMM 10 днів тому

    It's up there on the Mount Curemore, but the best? I cannot imagine anything topping Disintegration or even Pornography. But then they've been around for decades. I'll see how I feel about SOALW in a decade.

  • @CeeLoGreen666
    @CeeLoGreen666 10 днів тому +1

    AVAA 11:25 opinion on Brian Jonestown Massacre??

  • @dalydos3
    @dalydos3 10 днів тому

    Where do I find the poem? 25:36

  • @markstuartwakeley
    @markstuartwakeley 12 днів тому +1

    Election day special ❤AVAA

  • @stay_puft
    @stay_puft 10 днів тому

    To answer your title question, no, but it's as good as Faith or Wish.

  • @barclayv8282
    @barclayv8282 9 днів тому

    "Dudes" and "chicks". Yeah. Too simplistic. But the realization of death as something very real hit the head on the nail. Great comparison to the last Nick Cave.

  • @maxkatz2
    @maxkatz2 10 днів тому +2

    I always thought that The Smiths were a project by Robert Smith with his Brother

  • @jesse6851
    @jesse6851 11 днів тому

    Cant wait till im in my 40s and keep getting asked about the cure 😂

  • @ethanlammar5554
    @ethanlammar5554 9 днів тому

    Day 367 of Asking you to Review Achilles Come Down by Gang of Youth

  • @kkklllaaa1234
    @kkklllaaa1234 10 днів тому

    Unfortunately this new album sounds like someone has asked ChatGPT to create an album that sounds like Disintegration w horrible guitar solos

  • @curly_wyn
    @curly_wyn 8 днів тому

    Their best album?
    NO! No….just…no. Why? It’s not, not even close :/

  • @TAFROB29
    @TAFROB29 11 днів тому

    listen to Yeat new album my man

  • @Michel-r6m
    @Michel-r6m 6 днів тому

    Toxic masculinity...dude you standing on a porch talking about the past in a bathrobe thing...baby blue... Just saying 😂

  • @jesusfernandez1104
    @jesusfernandez1104 10 днів тому +2

    Cure's best album? Quit drugs, please. "Seventeen seconds", "Faith", "Pornography", "The Head on the Door", "Disintegration" or "Wish" piss on this BRICK

  • @Bolshybwoy
    @Bolshybwoy 5 днів тому

    Holy shit I love this album but this pseudo-intellectual dissection is beyond annoying.

  • @dougkirk9019
    @dougkirk9019 9 днів тому

    Not sure how anyone can honestly say they "enjoy this album the most" of all Cure albums. It's structurally repetitive. There's not a spark of melody among any of the 8 songs. It's dreary and bleak. "Enjoyable" I guess, if you like indulging in depression and every danceable bone in your body has calcified and rendered you immobile.

  • @bonnibel_bubblebuns
    @bonnibel_bubblebuns 11 днів тому

    Profe I love you but I'm beginning to understand why you called chromakopia a feminist album omg lmfao 😭

  • @the_normal
    @the_normal 9 днів тому

    Poor album.