5 Minutes with the Dual Lock Pedalboard Kit - Gear Demo
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- Опубліковано 14 жов 2024
- A quick video about the Dual Lock Pedalboard Kit -- beware, you'll never go back to velcro again. :)
** Still rolling as of Aug 2021! **
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I want to make it clear to everyone that reds this, that Ryan provides amazing customer service.
I ordered a kit for my voodoo labs dingbat large pedalboard a few weeks ago and it's fantastic! Excellent customer service too! 🤘 Thanks again man.
You are welcome sir!
Just ordered the Novo 24 kit off your website! Very excited to have my pedals more secure! Thanks!!
I appreciate the business! Should ship out in the morning.
Received my kit awhile back, I love it!
Well shit 2 minutes in and you already sold me lol. I’ve been fighting with this Velcro garbage for hours now. Kickass man! Thanks for the vid!
Haha. You're welcome -- and you'll never go back. :)
Thanks for the heads up; great video. I'm a stickler (ocd) when it comes to my pedals. CHEERS!!!
I used it to attach the shingles to my roof
190 MPH winds' no problems. I highly recommend it.
BTW I live in Kansas.
Just bought the stuff for my Pedaltrain Novo 24! Can't wait 👍
@Darwin Villena do you receive your purchase?
+Juan Lopez Yeah, still have a lot left for future pedals! Makes your pedalboard look clean looking as well.
Wow Ryan - this is Amazing. I am currently building a New Pedalboard. I'd like to Purchase " The Exact One " - you are using.
how can I order like 10'?
got my kit today love it better than velcro!
Ryan, any tips for applying this to BOSS pedals?
Checked out your website but there isn’t one for the Pedaltrain Classic 1?
Sorry to say that the glue on the dual lock does not hold up to heat very well. Very much like what happens to Velcro. If I have to leave my pedal board in my car on a hot day the glue starts to melt. I still prefer the dual lock to Velcro. Guess I need to move to a cooler climate.
I have a massive query:- the dual lock is insanely tough, BUT how do I fasten the tape to the board surface and the pedals? If the tape has sticky adhesive on the back then surely that area becomes the weakest link instead? Or am I missing something? (On my present board I have a Marshall Blues pedal which is heavy and every time the closed pedal box is carried the pedal falls off inside - but it's not the Velcro that yields, it's the adhesive on the back of the tape.)
Marmaduke Winterbotham That was exactly my experience. The sticky side becomes the weakest link. I used it to connect the power source under the board, it just can't do the job under the board for long term purposes.
How can I order just some for one or two pedals?
On the site I’ve got it available in 3 foot increments!
@@kiesshauer is that the one cost 7 dollars? I think web site have a problem, graphics comes all together in one place. It’s hard to read
Yep!
Ryan, what do you suggest for the pedals that have rubber bases or bottoms. I know velcro doesn't stick well but does the dual lock stick better, or do you try removing the rubber bottoms on these pedals.
It honestly sticks fine to the rubber in my experience, so that’s the easy solve. But I’ve taken the rubber off some of them too!
@@kiesshauer that’s good to know. I’m going to give it a try and redo my board
Do it!
On the power supply brick itself?
Wont the heat cause the glue to weaken though? Anyone here already try it for long home practice, long rehearsals or gigs? Used dual lock on their power supply under the board that is?
Unless the power supply is super heavy it’s been totally fine for me. I’ve had it on for hours at a time and it’s never fallen off on me!
What strength dual lock would you recommend i order if I want it strong , but I also switch out pedals constantly
This is the one I recommend and why it's the only one I stock, haha. To me the low profile is the perfect mix of strength and easy switching.
Just ordered the Novo 24 from you last night! Putting my first pedalboard together, thank you for this because i wasn't feeling 100% about using velcro..
Awesome! Should be headed your way on Monday! You’ll get tracking info as soon as it ships!
@@kiesshauer awesome!! Thank you!
How i can orden order extra dual lock, jus for others pedals I want to add?
I love this product is awesome!!
+Juan Lopez Your kit shipped with enough extra for future stuff; but I sell it on the site 3 feet at a time as well: duallockpedalboard.com. Glad you're happy with it! :)
@@kiesshauer wow I just remember your channel! Wow I love this product! I was looking for it, and for one reason I forgot the name. Thank you so much again!
Hello. How much of this would I need for a PT Pro board?
Hello. SUPER bummed out, over here.
Ryan - have you replaced all of the screws on the bottoms of your pedals?
My Pedal Train and all of my pedals are at my tech's. After spending $'s on the Dual Lock and to have all of the Mogami cables custom made, it seems that the Dual Lock is so low profile that it won't clear the screws on the bottoms of the pedals. Tried putting the Dual Lock over the screws...does not hold well enough. Suggestions? I'm playing tonight.
Man, I'm sorry to hear about that! Do you have some older pedals or something? Out of all the pedals I've owned over the years, I can only think of 1 that didn't work straight away -- it was an ABY box that I had to remove the bottom of to attach it. Other than that, all the screws on all the rest of my pedals were flat screws that sit flush with the bottom. I tended to not cover them up anyway in case I wanted to open it up and put the Dual Lock just above and below the screws instead, but....either way it worked fine.
Anyway, I'm very interested in what you've got going on -- maybe you can email me at info@duallockpedalboard.com with some pictures? I'm guessing if you have protruding screws that you couldn't really stick well with the velcro either?
Let me know -- sorry again for the issues!
Can you tell me why your kits are so much more expensive than the 3M Dual Lock that I can buy at Target, Ace, etc? Is your Dual Lock specially designed or superior to the Dual Lock that is on store shelves? Thanks
Well, honesty I'd never seen it in a store before. Mine is just the low-profile stuff (found that worked best strength and looks wise in my testing) - but I hadn't found any prices better than mine. If you find some cheaper and wanna measure and cut your own, by all means do it! :) but I think my pricing is good, and I believe in it, hence the site. :)
Hope that helps!
Dose the adhesive on the dual lock strips stick well to the bottoms of pedals covered in rubber?? like a boss pedal?
to be honest I haven't tried it; even when I used velcro I took those rubber bottoms off my boss pedals so that they would sit lower and more evenly.
the dual lock does stick to just about everything, though; i think the issue would be more from the rubber being not quite even than anything else.
Ryan Kiesshauer Sounds good, thanks man!!
I literally just covered my board in this and put it on my BOSS ES-8 and I cannot get it to grip/lock at all. I'm pushing with all of my weight and it won't click. This stuff was crazy expensive and it looks like it has failed completely for me.
I was going to delete my comment but I"m going to leave it up because I was fortunately able to figure out how to resolve this issue but am certain other people might run into this same thing. When he says only use a small amount on larger pedals, that's not just to be conservative with it. You will not be able to make it lock if you cover your large pedals or switchers with it. This IS NOT Velcro so don't make the mistake I did by assuming more dual lock means your pedals are more secure because it doesn't scale in those terms.
+Joel Pheister Joel, you don't have one of my kits, do you? I'm generally cheaper than just buying it elsewhere (unless you find some crazy sale). I'm curious what model of Dual Lock you're using; I tested several types, and the basic type was much too strong for this application, so I use low profile stuff instead, and it's much less forceful. You also have to be careful about covering your whole pedals -- if you cover the board, you really only need little squares on the corners or something along those lines to get a happy medium of 'secure but not like wrestling a bear to get them on and off'.
Hope that helps, man.
+Ryan Kiesshauer, I unfortunately didn't buy your product just got a bunch of 1" dual lock on Amazon. I'm wishing I had gotten it from you. I might be in serious trouble because I got the ES-8 to stick...but now I CANNOT get it off. I'm a big dood and it's not budging. Man I hope people read this and see it as a cautionary tale. I even tried to pry bar it off. It's not in the worst position on my board but I think I'm screwed if I ever need to take it off. Ugh. Know your gear, people. Even your Velcro it seems.
+Joel Pheister That stinks, man. :( It sounds like you probably put a lot of it on your ES-8. A couple things I'd try to get it off: if there is a continuous strip of DL under it that covers the length of your board, try to grab one of the edges that is not underneath the pedal and get it to start peeling off. If you have enough leeway, you might be able to pull the whole pedal and both pieces of DL off that way. Worst case, I know 3M (and others) sell spray cans of what is called "adhesive remover"...you could try that, trying to spray it underneath the DL strips on your board to get them to come off easier.
Hopefully that helps! And yeah, research is pretty key. :(
+Ryan Kiesshauer fantastic ideas I did not think of. I have another board I am gonna convert, I'll be getting your product for sure! Cheers and thank you!!!
Have you attached your Ciok power supply with Dual Lock as well??
No, I already had that guy bolted in there, haha. But if you covered the brackets where you screw it on (it has to have brackets for a PT-2, anyway) with Dual Lock, I bet money it would hold. I actually have a Voodoo Lab ISO-5 under there now too, and that one is attached with Dual Lock -- hasn't fallen off once!
Does it stick to plastic (SKB) type
Sticks to just about everything!
What is the difference for the #m dual lock?
I have a pedaltrain jr..where can I order this? How much do i need for the train jr?
duallockpedalboard.com! The kit is on there and ready to order.
How much will it cost for put this on my Pedal train novo 24.
+Juan Lopez Costs are all on the website: duallockpedalboard.com
Is the Cioks power supply that is on this board also mounted with Dual Lock??
No, but only because the whole thing doesn't fit between the rails on this board. :) Believe me, Dual Lock could hold it!
Just ordered Dual Lock off Amazon. How is your kit different?
Well depending on what model you got, the model could be different. I use the low-profile stuff (which works better to me based on my testing of a few of them) and I cut the strips to length for Pedaltrain boards. Mine's also cheaper per foot than anything I've seen, so let me know if you do find something cheaper.
how much extra comes with a kit? i have a pedaltrain pro that i want to finish with dual lock. is there any specific reason i shouldn't just order 11 yards of 1" SJ4575 for $51 shipped from itapestore and cut it myself?
I don't know what you ordered so it's quite literally impossible for me to tell you. :) But in general mine is cheaper. The model could be different, as I use low-profile Dual Lock. And I pre-cut the strips -- not a big deal but still a difference.
i haven't actually ordered anything yet, but on itapestore SJ4575 (the same low profile model that you use for these kits as stated in your faq) is $4.70/yd if you buy at least 6 yds. are you only cutting them to length, or does the width also have to be adjusted in order to fit two strips per rail? if they only have to be cut to length then by my calculation i should need a little less than 9 yds to cover 5 32" rails from end to end. even with buying 2 extra yds to accommodate my pedals, that only comes out to $51.70 with free shipping, which is about $20 less than your asking price for the pedaltrain pro kit.
Yeah they must have changed their pricing structure recently. I could (and always) match prices where I can, and I would happily do that here, but that free shipping promo will be the difference maker. I can't eat shipping costs as an individual -- benefit of going with a larger company, I suppose. So yeah if you don't mind cutting them to length yourself (it's not hard) then you'd save shipping costs going with them.
What kind of board/rack is that?
Standard ol Pedaltrain 2!
Ok. Thanks!
Which grade of dual lock are you using ?
The Black SJ4575 I believe; it's the low-profile stuff. That's the stuff I liked best out of all the testing I did, and I'm never going back to velcro. :)
Hey, do you ship to Belgium?
Yep! Flat rate international shipping is $13.80 anywhere.
Dol lock yeah man!
Dual, but YEAH MAN. haha. :)
Hi, I have some dual lock and it is 26mm wide, so 52mm wide for two parallel strips on a bar on the Pedaltrain. But the bar on the Pedaltrain is about 48mm wide before the metal starts to round off. Do you cut 4 or 5mm off of the width of one of the dual lock strips, or leave it hanging over the pedaltrain bar? Thanks.
Cut it to fit.
Life cycle of this Dual Lock?
I've used it forever and it still hasn't worn out. You can check all the specifics for this model (SJ4575) on 3M's website, but most of the time it wears out from a ton of removing and re-attaching; and I'll do that now and then to swap a pedal or rearrange my board or something, but not anywhere near enough for it to wear out!
@@kiesshauer Ah ok, good to know. I'm actually considering getting this for this year's Pedalboard Project I have going on. Also, I see people talk about the adhesive on the Dual Lock being an issue in hot humid areas, because they say that it doesn't stick well on the board, but unless you live in a neutral temperature area, per se, it's shouldn't be an issue, right?
@@TotalEvo7 I suppose it depends largely on where you live and what you do, but I can only speak from my experience. I live in GA (humid summers, tops out at 90's temps) but I rarely play any kind of outdoor venue and I don't leave my gear in my car for a long time or anything, so I've never had an issue. I suppose if you do either of those things it might be a consideration -- but then again, so would velcro!
I used it to fasten my voodoolab 2+ to my pedal train
Still in business? Emails sent..
+Kris Margiotta Absolutely! What email address did you use? I got one yesterday but it was from a different name...
+Ryan Kiesshauer Sent to ryan@kiesshauer.com from this account. I'll send again!
+Kris Margiotta Still haven't gotten anything, man! Checked spam (nada) and send myself a test to make sure it's working; try info@duallockpedalboard.com as well if you don't have any luck.
+Juan Lopez Emails sent.
+Ryan Kiesshauer thank you bro!