You've gone from two puzzle solving friends sharing solutions and your hobby on youtube to having a community that creates new puzzles and interesting sudoku variants. Possibly one of the best things that has ever happened to the puzzling world. I've recently watched the thermonuclear sudoku, which was a beautifully set puzzle as a guy's debut puzzle. Things like this are people's lives that you have catalysed into new hobbies that they had never had before. Its wonderful to see. It's been especially wonderful to see this channel grow and change over the past couple of years. It inspired me to pick up killer sudokus, and although I dont get much time for them anymore, it's still something I enjoy. You say often you read all the comments, so hello! Hope your day is going well. It's been excruciatingly hot in UK so I hope you're staying hydrated ;)
I noticed that. I assume that he's pointing out that the six cage did not have to take one of those 27 cells, because it could have gone to the bottom left instead. I really don't know, though.
Yes it said that. The main point of the logic remains (ie that there cannot be a repeated 7/8/9 region in this section of the grid) but, as you say, the 6 didn't actually need to contribute to the 27.
I love the lines in the first software. It's like laying down the smoothest line of green ink you've ever seen, somehow. Penpa, I will not discuss, lol. Puzzles were good, I think Fillomino might be growing on me. Time on the first puzzle was about 30 minutes, the second I'm not sure as I misunderstood the ruleset originally and that wasted a lot of time. One thing I noticed was the first puzzle had a LOT of opportunities to make use of uniqueness considerations to save time. I didn't because I'm stubborn that way.
Same here. I first noticed the 3 boxed between the sets of 2 in the bottom left of the grid and considered that if the 4 didn't come in and force the positions of the 3, the result would be a region of size 1 that could have been placed anywhere. But, like you, I needed to prove it to myself another way. Besides, who knows when a mistake might slip through the cracks and we actually find something with more than one solution. If we always solved while assuming uniqueness, we'd never know!
Yes, "Panel On" for hitting numbers, too. Yeah, this one didn't surprise me with "it's ok" all of a sudden at the end. I was checking my numbers to see if the same as Simon's too.
"Panel On" and "Number" actually. I did the poker hands in blue and green (blue for what was needed) ;) Did it at the end I think though (but I should have done it sooner lol).
So someone can correct me if I'm mistaken, but I believe that, from 15:02 when he places the 6 in r6c7, you can disambiguate the 4 and 3 cages near it by the principle of uniqueness. That is, if the 6 region didn't take r9c6, then there would be three different ways of fulfilling the 4 and 3 cages (either the 4 goes left and there's a 1 to the right of it, or the 4 goes right and there's a 1 in either r8c3 or r9c4). The only way that region can be disambiguated is if the 6 region takes that square, and so therefore if we assume the puzzle has a unique solution then the 6 _must_ take that square.
Thats how I did it. If the 4 doesn't enter that region, 3 squares make up the 3 region then youd put a 1 in the remaining square. But no matter where you put the 1 it would technically work so there's no unique solution, so the 4 must go left there
@16:30 So what I noticed when you're down to a smaller space with a lot of large numbers, what I did was sum up all the cells of that irregular region, subtracted a few to finish the 3 4 and 5 regions which poke in by one cell each, subtracted the stray 1 cell, and came up with 36. In a region which must contain at LEAST a 5 6 7 8 and 9 cage, which already sum to 35, with only 1 cell left over. Which confirms that all the large givens in that space are connected in unique cages. Like the 6s you began with @17:00, all 3 of those must be the same cage.
I've never done a Fillomino, but I picked it up quite quickly and finished the first in 40 minutes and I picked up on the restriction on the straight very quickly, so I ended up doing the second in about 25 minutes. Loved the puzzles. Lots of fun.
Puzzle 2 pre commentary. I wrote out a thorough explanation about how I couldn't figure it out and in that explanation was the answer to how to start the puzzle. Excellent. I of course deleted the explanation. Now I'm going to try the puzzle again.
32:45 - That cage didn't need to have the 9 to be a straight, it could have been 10,11,12,13,1 using an ace. The 13 can't reach that cage though so it doesn't work anyway.
16:15 is there a uniqueness rule? To argue that the 4 has to go into the area with the 3 caged in by 2's in the lower left, otherwise there would be three ways to pt a 1 region in with the 3 region...
I was a dirty cheater and used uniqueness several times in the first puzzle. I think even if he notices, Simon tends to avoid using uniqueness to progress since it's usually not the intended logic.
Yes. There was at least one more spot like that (lower left involving the 6 region and what it allowed above it). I think another one too but can't remember.
Puzzle 1: 35 Minutes. Fun! On to the second. Oh, yeah. I should also say that to finish the puzzle I had to count the number of squares in the grid and subtract off all the regions I knew were in it so I could see how many squares were left that I needed to account for. And it's interesting that Simon does close to the beginning what I left for last. I probably would have been faster had I noticed the way he did it. Well, except I had the "8" region on the left a sooner in the solve than Simon. I just hadn't figured out the 5's yet so didn't know if the bottom left square was a 1 or a 6. Oh I like the blue dialogue box behind the rules that we can't read. ;)
First puzzle took me about 35 minutes. 'twas my first Fillomino. The second one I got the break-ins rather quickly but messed up some logic along the way and got a conflict with the 7s. Turns out I messed up the 13 because I just added the two cells in row one without considering row three. That forced the 11 and then the 7 down, causing the conflict. I did catch that the last poker cage had to include a hidden 1 or 2 before my puzzle broke. Those puzzles have been a lot of fun!
1st puzzle: 15:31. I initially had issues getting it to load, but it did eventually work. Fun puzzle! . 2nd puzzle: I didn't see a timer for this one, but it probably took me about 30 minutes. (In my defense, I'm watching NHL action as I solve these.) . All in all, I enjoyed both of these!
Brilliantly done. On the Poker Filomino, you could have guessed much earlier that "6" was already part of the poker hand. Why? The current known numbers were "7", "7", and "11". The two must be different and can only be either "1" or "2", or "6" with 2 degrees of freedom / cells (to create). If "6" was not a part of the hand, then "1" and "2" would've been part of the hand, which is a contradiction already because you would have added 3 degrees of freedom / cells already which is not allowed. :)
:o i cant believe i beat simons time on the poker hands one (slightly less than a minute faster but hey, its technically faster) :D this marks one of the very very few occasions where i felt smart watching these haha man these filominos are so enjoyable and have some sweet logic combined with this graphic visualisation that i feel like i have a good feel for^^ Well ofc i am nowhere near as fast as an expert solver but i wasnt going for speed so i took my time and i am not very experienced in these at all so this still is a great achievement for me :)
Not considered but there was also no path for the 12 and 11 to reach the top left boxes with how the given digits were gating the grid. The 12 was one cell shy of potentially reaching the top-left box, and the two 11s were already a fixed maximum taxi cab distance, preventing the left 11 from dipping down 1 to the box below it. Re-scanning as I type, the top right box could potentially be reached by 10 11 12 and a stray 1, but since the forced 11 clue boxed the 13 around the corner to the left, a 13 could never reach the top right box. That was indeed a fair and missed consideration which was only 1-2 cells shy of being possible in 3 boxes.
If memory serves me correctly, I remember considering it and 10,11,12 and 13 aren't all able to reach the same poker hand region, making it impossible and an ace (1) irrelevant to any such considerations.
8:13 “Uniqueness” could solve the 3-region seeded at r8c4. If r9c4 is part of the 3-region, you get a ‘deadly pattern’ that reminds me of the ambiguous pairs in sudoku. It leads to two equally valid solutions. You could finish the 3-region using r9c3, leaving r8c3 as a 1-region, or vice versa. You can therefore conclude that r9c4 is NOT part of the 3 region, as it leads to a non-unique solution, and therefore the 3-region must extend left and down.
I was surpriset at how "easily" (well...) the second puzzle gave up its secret. One key thing at 31:16 is that there is another 13 in r4c3 to allow 13 to connect to itself. This leaves us with just one possible straight, and that I think is the key breaking. The 13-11 is just the groundwork. After that, there were a lot more restraints in the grid. 32:00 Instantly yes, because 11 is ruled out of all except two boxes, and there are three 11 in one of them, so 13,12 and 11 are impossible for the straight.
Just so you know, the highest straight in power is 1-13-12-11-10. It doesn't matter in this puzzle though (since you eliminated having a straight with 11 and 10) but I have a feeling you might do more poker sudokus :D
Did the first of the two puzzles fairly quickly, no more than 10 minutes (although the software I was using doesn't time a solve). Haven't looked at the second one yet.
First puzzle: You know? Given that I'm not that familiar with Fillomino, I'll take a time of 27 minutes on a puzzle that should take 'expert solvers' 15. (I enjoy the puzzle type, I'm just not as familiar with them as I probably should be). Very enjoyable, and I really enjoyed just how symmetrical that grid was especially with the counting up from 1 to 9 in a diamond formation. Very enjoyable watch as well. Wasn't able to see where to get started on the second puzzle after proving both 11s and 13 were part of the same region, there was only one broad path to get the 11s to do so with no room for deviations which gave a broad path for the 13s with room for deviations and that left 2 cells for hidden regions (so no room for a 3 region), and that the straight needed to be 6 through 10 due to the restrictions on the grid and where the hands were - about where you got at 32:00 into the video - so that was a very interesting solve to watch. (There is a way of drawing boundries in that software - It's the Edge function)
There was a flaw in your logic @32:00 - The Straight can't contain a five, so it has to contain a ten (Ace-King-Queen-Jack-Ten as the highest possible Straight, or Ten-Nine-Eight-Seven-Six as the lowest). The nine is not required, since the Ace can act as highest value. It still works out though, because the thirteen can't reach the cage on the right side, which would force the Straight to be Twelve-Eleven-Ten-Nine-Eight (Or lower) if it were to be in the right cage, and NOW your logic with the nine applies (Because with the thirteen being unable to reach the right cage, it now has to contain a nine, which is impossible).
Are you using the same version of the software were using? The Penpa link from the second puzzle has an Edge option (I'm in the middle of the watch, so not sure)
I like it better when you have the rules that apply to the given puzzle displayed and then start going over them. It's more confusing when you explain them without actually seeing them listed.
First time being faster than Simon in over 8 months!!! I dont know why but the poker one was so much easier for me... took about half the time as the first one. And I have to say that the software for the first one is not phone friendly lol... maybe thats why it took so long for me haha
I am surprised Simon didn't comment on the beautiful pattern the numbers made in the central diamond. Also, like other commenters here, what did the thought bubble say at around the 20 minute 17 second mark?
@@BlueCyann well top right cage could have been a 10 11 12 13 1 cage , so to eliminate this possibility one should point out that 13 can't reach that cage
I managed to do both on mobile. For the first, tick the 'input numbers by panel' checkbox. For the second, switch the 'panel:' toggle from 'off' to 'on', then select the 'number' input mode. Despite Simon saying you cannot, you can enter cell borders in the second puzzle by switching the input mode to 'edge'.
Ok, I know I'm stupid, but I think this secound puzzle was not filled right. At the end Simon should fill box with 2 pairs, not one. One pair was filled long before it (at bottom left box).
@@XeoN-PL You don't need to be stupid to get confused by that. I had to read it multiple times before it sunk in. I think it's natural to read "one pair, one pair" and convert it as "oh, so two pairs then". 😀
Had to watch the first one to get an idea of the logic involved, then steadily cranked away at the second one until I finished it. Very enjoyable and well-constructed!
This is not valid in this particular instance of poker puzzle, but technically 10,11,12,13,1 is also a straight (a royal straight, ten to ace), meaning that there was theoretically a way to have a straight without 10. Does not apply to this puzzle, as you could not get 13 in, but this option was not considered
I usually read the rules, not listen to them at the start, so I though that hidden polyominoes can't be any of 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9 because they are all present in the grid.
I could be wrong but I think your logic regarding the straight early on was flawed. I could see no reason the straight could not contain a 1 (ie 10, 11, 12, 13, 1). Also a note that may or may not make future poker puzzles a little easier. Any straight in poker MUST contain a 5 OR a 10.
I'm sorry, but like Simon I am suspicious as well. How did he know at the start that the 11s could be part of the same group - but not the 13s? Why not both?
You've gone from two puzzle solving friends sharing solutions and your hobby on youtube to having a community that creates new puzzles and interesting sudoku variants. Possibly one of the best things that has ever happened to the puzzling world.
I've recently watched the thermonuclear sudoku, which was a beautifully set puzzle as a guy's debut puzzle. Things like this are people's lives that you have catalysed into new hobbies that they had never had before. Its wonderful to see. It's been especially wonderful to see this channel grow and change over the past couple of years. It inspired me to pick up killer sudokus, and although I dont get much time for them anymore, it's still something I enjoy.
You say often you read all the comments, so hello! Hope your day is going well. It's been excruciatingly hot in UK so I hope you're staying hydrated ;)
I forgot to mention your apps too. I need to get around to downloading them
"The first thing I'm seeing, is that this is hard". Yep, me every time.
That was the same thing I was thinking. My first impression would be that this is harder than paint by numbers.
No need to boast about your tumescence
Both these puzzles are awesome. I highly recommend them!
20:17 - a note from Simon but it's obscured by the rules. What does it say Simon??
I noticed that. I assume that he's pointing out that the six cage did not have to take one of those 27 cells, because it could have gone to the bottom left instead. I really don't know, though.
probably that 6 doesn't have to take cell on the right, because there is one free on the left.
@@danielchmiel7787 Exactly what I was trying to say. :)
@@jonathanbost8427 oh, sorry, I didn't see your comment while writing mine ;)
Yes it said that. The main point of the logic remains (ie that there cannot be a repeated 7/8/9 region in this section of the grid) but, as you say, the 6 didn't actually need to contribute to the 27.
I love the lines in the first software. It's like laying down the smoothest line of green ink you've ever seen, somehow.
Penpa, I will not discuss, lol.
Puzzles were good, I think Fillomino might be growing on me. Time on the first puzzle was about 30 minutes, the second I'm not sure as I misunderstood the ruleset originally and that wasted a lot of time. One thing I noticed was the first puzzle had a LOT of opportunities to make use of uniqueness considerations to save time. I didn't because I'm stubborn that way.
Same here.
I first noticed the 3 boxed between the sets of 2 in the bottom left of the grid and considered that if the 4 didn't come in and force the positions of the 3, the result would be a region of size 1 that could have been placed anywhere.
But, like you, I needed to prove it to myself another way.
Besides, who knows when a mistake might slip through the cracks and we actually find something with more than one solution.
If we always solved while assuming uniqueness, we'd never know!
37:48 Yes, you can draw boundaries. Just click on "Edge".
Draw boundaries in the second puzzle by selecting "Edge"
Also, you can colour in the cells, makes it look much nicer than in the video :)
Also it doesn´t show if u have the correct awnser or not, so u stay a lit bit scare after finishing it
Yes, "Panel On" for hitting numbers, too.
Yeah, this one didn't surprise me with "it's ok" all of a sudden at the end.
I was checking my numbers to see if the same as Simon's too.
"Panel On" and "Number" actually.
I did the poker hands in blue and green (blue for what was needed) ;)
Did it at the end I think though (but I should have done it sooner lol).
So someone can correct me if I'm mistaken, but I believe that, from 15:02 when he places the 6 in r6c7, you can disambiguate the 4 and 3 cages near it by the principle of uniqueness. That is, if the 6 region didn't take r9c6, then there would be three different ways of fulfilling the 4 and 3 cages (either the 4 goes left and there's a 1 to the right of it, or the 4 goes right and there's a 1 in either r8c3 or r9c4). The only way that region can be disambiguated is if the 6 region takes that square, and so therefore if we assume the puzzle has a unique solution then the 6 _must_ take that square.
i noticed that as well, but Im not sure that sort of "meta" logic is thought about often
Thats how I did it. If the 4 doesn't enter that region, 3 squares make up the 3 region then youd put a 1 in the remaining square. But no matter where you put the 1 it would technically work so there's no unique solution, so the 4 must go left there
He doesn't like to use uniqueness
@16:30 So what I noticed when you're down to a smaller space with a lot of large numbers, what I did was sum up all the cells of that irregular region, subtracted a few to finish the 3 4 and 5 regions which poke in by one cell each, subtracted the stray 1 cell, and came up with 36. In a region which must contain at LEAST a 5 6 7 8 and 9 cage, which already sum to 35, with only 1 cell left over. Which confirms that all the large givens in that space are connected in unique cages. Like the 6s you began with @17:00, all 3 of those must be the same cage.
And, of course, you did notice this as well in slightly different fashion and roll with it. :D
I've never done a Fillomino, but I picked it up quite quickly and finished the first in 40 minutes and I picked up on the restriction on the straight very quickly, so I ended up doing the second in about 25 minutes. Loved the puzzles. Lots of fun.
Both of these were great, but the poker one was brilliantly worked out. More fillomino puzzles please.
These puzzles were absolute treats. It's fun to have some easy days.
Puzzle 2 pre commentary. I wrote out a thorough explanation about how I couldn't figure it out and in that explanation was the answer to how to start the puzzle. Excellent. I of course deleted the explanation. Now I'm going to try the puzzle again.
32:45 - That cage didn't need to have the 9 to be a straight, it could have been 10,11,12,13,1 using an ace. The 13 can't reach that cage though so it doesn't work anyway.
I was just about to post the same thing.
I wanted to say that too. He got lucky
How did he rule out the bottom left cage for the straight? Did I miss it, or did he just ignore it? The numbers 6-10 can reach bottom left cage.
Nvm, I'm dumb, the seven can't reach bottom left
Highly enjoyable puzzle! I have not seen this type puzzle before. Fascinating to watch you solve Simon. Thanks
16:15 is there a uniqueness rule? To argue that the 4 has to go into the area with the 3 caged in by 2's in the lower left, otherwise there would be three ways to pt a 1 region in with the 3 region...
You wont have enough spaces for the other numbers that way.
Yes absolutely
I was a dirty cheater and used uniqueness several times in the first puzzle. I think even if he notices, Simon tends to avoid using uniqueness to progress since it's usually not the intended logic.
Yes. There was at least one more spot like that (lower left involving the 6 region and what it allowed above it). I think another one too but can't remember.
I'm usually not too interested in the 'non-Sudoku' puzzles but these two were fun. The logic for the poker puzzle was excellent!
U can use edges in Penpa but you have to switch the mode from Number to Edge. Good puzzles!
This poker puzzle was one of the most beautiful I've ever seen
Puzzle 1: 35 Minutes. Fun! On to the second. Oh, yeah. I should also say that to finish the puzzle I had to count the number of squares in the grid and subtract off all the regions I knew were in it so I could see how many squares were left that I needed to account for. And it's interesting that Simon does close to the beginning what I left for last. I probably would have been faster had I noticed the way he did it. Well, except I had the "8" region on the left a sooner in the solve than Simon. I just hadn't figured out the 5's yet so didn't know if the bottom left square was a 1 or a 6. Oh I like the blue dialogue box behind the rules that we can't read. ;)
First puzzle took me about 35 minutes. 'twas my first Fillomino. The second one I got the break-ins rather quickly but messed up some logic along the way and got a conflict with the 7s. Turns out I messed up the 13 because I just added the two cells in row one without considering row three. That forced the 11 and then the 7 down, causing the conflict. I did catch that the last poker cage had to include a hidden 1 or 2 before my puzzle broke. Those puzzles have been a lot of fun!
Love these videos which show different types of puzzles other than sudoku.
Nice puzzles, thanks guys. FYI you can draw lines in that software if you click the "Edge" button under "Mode"
Fillomino puzzles are so much fun. Thank you for the video!
first time seeing this kind og puzzle and already love it.
I can already tell this is going to be a good one! Can’t wait to see more.
lol @20:20, we can't see the blurb bc it's covered by the instructions
1st puzzle: 15:31. I initially had issues getting it to load, but it did eventually work. Fun puzzle!
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2nd puzzle: I didn't see a timer for this one, but it probably took me about 30 minutes. (In my defense, I'm watching NHL action as I solve these.)
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All in all, I enjoyed both of these!
That poker puzzle was lovely. First one was good to refresh my limited Filomino knowledge, too.
I already enjoyed the first puzzle and then the poker fillomino was just brilliant
So when’s the Poker Sudoku app?
Brilliantly done. On the Poker Filomino, you could have guessed much earlier that "6" was already part of the poker hand. Why? The current known numbers were "7", "7", and "11". The two must be different and can only be either "1" or "2", or "6" with 2 degrees of freedom / cells (to create). If "6" was not a part of the hand, then "1" and "2" would've been part of the hand, which is a contradiction already because you would have added 3 degrees of freedom / cells already which is not allowed. :)
:o i cant believe i beat simons time on the poker hands one (slightly less than a minute faster but hey, its technically faster) :D this marks one of the very very few occasions where i felt smart watching these haha man these filominos are so enjoyable and have some sweet logic combined with this graphic visualisation that i feel like i have a good feel for^^
Well ofc i am nowhere near as fast as an expert solver but i wasnt going for speed so i took my time and i am not very experienced in these at all so this still is a great achievement for me :)
What was the speech bubble at 20:15 meant to say?
I did it in 49 minutes. Far away from an expert solver, but happy I did it anyway.
I don't think Simon considers a straight of 10 to ace (10, 11, 12, 13, 1). Not sure if this would affect anything though.
Not considered but there was also no path for the 12 and 11 to reach the top left boxes with how the given digits were gating the grid. The 12 was one cell shy of potentially reaching the top-left box, and the two 11s were already a fixed maximum taxi cab distance, preventing the left 11 from dipping down 1 to the box below it.
Re-scanning as I type, the top right box could potentially be reached by 10 11 12 and a stray 1, but since the forced 11 clue boxed the 13 around the corner to the left, a 13 could never reach the top right box.
That was indeed a fair and missed consideration which was only 1-2 cells shy of being possible in 3 boxes.
If memory serves me correctly, I remember considering it and 10,11,12 and 13 aren't all able to reach the same poker hand region, making it impossible and an ace (1) irrelevant to any such considerations.
2 great puzzles
You can draw boundaries in Penpa by using the Edge option.
21:33 the 6 does poke down. It solves the 3 issue and 4 issue in that little box.
If you ignore uniqueness arguments, there could have been a hidden 1 cage with the 3 and 4.
Simon: "Well, the first thing I'm seeing...is that this is hard."😂
This is just very beautiful puzzle!
Whatever you said at 20:30 wasn’t visible as it was hidden behind the rules
8:13 “Uniqueness” could solve the 3-region seeded at r8c4. If r9c4 is part of the 3-region, you get a ‘deadly pattern’ that reminds me of the ambiguous pairs in sudoku. It leads to two equally valid solutions. You could finish the 3-region using r9c3, leaving r8c3 as a 1-region, or vice versa. You can therefore conclude that r9c4 is NOT part of the 3 region, as it leads to a non-unique solution, and therefore the 3-region must extend left and down.
Another puzzle type to scramble my already dizzy brain!
[grabs a beer and a bowl of Chicago Mix popcorn]
You can draw edges in the software used for the second puzzle.
I was surpriset at how "easily" (well...) the second puzzle gave up its secret. One key thing at 31:16 is that there is another 13 in r4c3 to allow 13 to connect to itself. This leaves us with just one possible straight, and that I think is the key breaking. The 13-11 is just the groundwork.
After that, there were a lot more restraints in the grid.
32:00 Instantly yes, because 11 is ruled out of all except two boxes, and there are three 11 in one of them, so 13,12 and 11 are impossible for the straight.
37:46 This looks like Penpa - you CAN draw boundaries in Penpa, it's in the "Edge" section.
Just so you know, the highest straight in power is 1-13-12-11-10. It doesn't matter in this puzzle though (since you eliminated having a straight with 11 and 10) but I have a feeling you might do more poker sudokus :D
Did the first of the two puzzles fairly quickly, no more than 10 minutes (although the software I was using doesn't time a solve).
Haven't looked at the second one yet.
First puzzle: You know? Given that I'm not that familiar with Fillomino, I'll take a time of 27 minutes on a puzzle that should take 'expert solvers' 15. (I enjoy the puzzle type, I'm just not as familiar with them as I probably should be). Very enjoyable, and I really enjoyed just how symmetrical that grid was especially with the counting up from 1 to 9 in a diamond formation. Very enjoyable watch as well.
Wasn't able to see where to get started on the second puzzle after proving both 11s and 13 were part of the same region, there was only one broad path to get the 11s to do so with no room for deviations which gave a broad path for the 13s with room for deviations and that left 2 cells for hidden regions (so no room for a 3 region), and that the straight needed to be 6 through 10 due to the restrictions on the grid and where the hands were - about where you got at 32:00 into the video - so that was a very interesting solve to watch. (There is a way of drawing boundries in that software - It's the Edge function)
I did it,being the first ever fillomino I tried, in 43 minutes. How ashamed should i be?
There was a flaw in your logic @32:00 - The Straight can't contain a five, so it has to contain a ten (Ace-King-Queen-Jack-Ten as the highest possible Straight, or Ten-Nine-Eight-Seven-Six as the lowest). The nine is not required, since the Ace can act as highest value.
It still works out though, because the thirteen can't reach the cage on the right side, which would force the Straight to be Twelve-Eleven-Ten-Nine-Eight (Or lower) if it were to be in the right cage, and NOW your logic with the nine applies (Because with the thirteen being unable to reach the right cage, it now has to contain a nine, which is impossible).
Nightara the 11 blocks any other option than 6-10, as the 9 can not be in a box with the 11.
r9c6 is it bad logic to say that has to be a 6 because otherwise the puzzle would have multiple solutions with the 3 (and possibly 1) region?
Are you using the same version of the software were using? The Penpa link from the second puzzle has an Edge option
(I'm in the middle of the watch, so not sure)
I like it better when you have the rules that apply to the given puzzle displayed and then start going over them. It's more confusing when you explain them without actually seeing them listed.
First time being faster than Simon in over 8 months!!! I dont know why but the poker one was so much easier for me... took about half the time as the first one. And I have to say that the software for the first one is not phone friendly lol... maybe thats why it took so long for me haha
Simon is gonna be a poker expert by the end of the month at this rate.
Solved the first one with some difficulty. Decided to let Simon handle the poker one :)
I am surprised Simon didn't comment on the beautiful pattern the numbers made in the central diamond. Also, like other commenters here, what did the thought bubble say at around the 20 minute 17 second mark?
@20:13 the 6 could go next to the 4!
@ 30:30. Isn't just the 10 given instead of 9 and 10? I thought 10,11,12,13,1 (as 1 is the ace) is a valid straight in poker.
Yeah that was my reaction. I think he just was thinking of consecutive digits, rather than poker hands, and so forgot the 1
@@GroundThing Irrelevant anyway given that inclusion of an 11 is never a thing in any of them.
@@BlueCyann well top right cage could have been a 10 11 12 13 1 cage , so to eliminate this possibility one should point out that 13 can't reach that cage
@@allatar6759 True.
Ouch...rough url randomly generated for you. It wouldn't have been so bad without the underscore.
14:54 I may be wrong, but I don’t think r8c8 can be a three
46:21! Just for the first one...
Impressive!
In the first puzzle the 4/6 going left could be solved with uniqueness. If it didn't go back there where 3 spots to put the 1
strange as i am - firstly it made me happy just to draw random lines in this creative software ^v^
I can't use the philomino link on my mobile... Can't figure out how to input.
There should be an option for a panel.
I managed to do both on mobile. For the first, tick the 'input numbers by panel' checkbox.
For the second, switch the 'panel:' toggle from 'off' to 'on', then select the 'number' input mode.
Despite Simon saying you cannot, you can enter cell borders in the second puzzle by switching the input mode to 'edge'.
Ok, I know I'm stupid, but I think this secound puzzle was not filled right. At the end Simon should fill box with 2 pairs, not one. One pair was filled long before it (at bottom left box).
There needs to be two "one pair" hands, according to the rules. No hand is required to have "two pairs".
@@RichSmith77 oh, gosh... That's true. As I said - I am stupid, so it was very possible that I'm not right. xD
@@XeoN-PL You don't need to be stupid to get confused by that. I had to read it multiple times before it sunk in. I think it's natural to read "one pair, one pair" and convert it as "oh, so two pairs then". 😀
That cursor always bugged me in PUZ-PRE too -- today I finally noticed you can turn it off in the "Display" settings dropdown!
Was that a Merlin flying by @ 25'00?
At 7:05 You could've known that r9c3 was 4 because if it was a 3 or a 1 the puzzle would not have a unique solution.
Had to watch the first one to get an idea of the logic involved, then steadily cranked away at the second one until I finished it. Very enjoyable and well-constructed!
Sometimes the order he solves these puzzles and drives me crazy cuz he jumps around so much
Two puzzles in one video... for all the long video junkies? And also the meta-puzzle: What is written in the blue bubble behind the clue bubble?
This is not valid in this particular instance of poker puzzle, but technically 10,11,12,13,1 is also a straight (a royal straight, ten to ace), meaning that there was theoretically a way to have a straight without 10. Does not apply to this puzzle, as you could not get 13 in, but this option was not considered
I usually read the rules, not listen to them at the start, so I though that hidden polyominoes can't be any of 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9 because they are all present in the grid.
@8:07 I know it's sorta cheating but you know the 4 goes left or the solution is not unique!
I wish my wife got half as excited about me as Simon gets about Phisomaphel (sp?)
I just kept shouting there is no 11 in the straight!! Probably the only time ever I was ahead you xD
Fun puzzle and an interesting switch-up, but hope you keep with the sudoku style mostly. Thanks for a fun video Simon. Cheers.
Nice
First puzzle: assuming it has to have a unique solution, the 3,4,6 combination that was open a very long time is fixed
I noticed the same at about 15:11. The 6 had to come left or the puzzle didn't have a unique solution.
Was I the only one googling what a full house is because I didn't see yesterday's video yet?
I could be wrong but I think your logic regarding the straight early on was flawed. I could see no reason the straight could not contain a 1 (ie 10, 11, 12, 13, 1). Also a note that may or may not make future poker puzzles a little easier. Any straight in poker MUST contain a 5 OR a 10.
I got the 1 and then got stuck.
I'm sorry, but like Simon I am suspicious as well. How did he know at the start that the 11s could be part of the same group - but not the 13s? Why not both?
I don't understand the question.
When Simon adds up all number he uses 13 only once cause both 13 could be in same cage. He didn't say it loud but he knew it.
Puzzle 2 18 minutes. That one was a wee bit easier. EDIT OMG! I was faster than Simon. I'm freaking out right now. That will never happen again.
34 minutes. What does that make me?
50 minutes for the first puzzle
Cue up the "Hand" jokes.
First one was very nice. Second one, bleh.
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Arghh, dont do poker sudoku, i cant do any of them because of its rules