My 20,000 Subscribers special will take some time. for now enjoy this video! Also did you like? Mistake - BRO ITS Hamerless I DID A EDITING MISTAKE 2:25 Also I didn't include Guycot carbine, volcanic and sharps cuz they are pretty much one of the worst choices for rifle pvp in mid and close range. You're better off using a shotgun then them.
I think you should include bullet penetration. Maybe it is not a very used thing but still is. Also, I need to mention bullet velocity, which is a very important thing.
I agree. I have gotten countless kills while fort raiding/defending because I could penetrate most of the wooden walls with the Hartford rifle. I once got accused of wall hacking! 😂
I think the Paterson should be ranked higher cause it’s drop off is very low compared to other guns. It’s 100% accuracy allows you to kinda snipe as well
Personally I use a proto and lancaster combo because it covers mid and close range wonderfully, and I just use whatever rifle or shotgun I feel like using then. For me, since I often miss shots if im not at close or mid range I don't use hartford since it requires some proper skill (one shot means you gotta make it hit)
completley agree, I've used the pat proto hartford probably ever since I've managed to get the auction guns them selfs, ironically enough I mostly use the hartford as a secondary, while paterson is the primary and protoype is for shiftshooting a bigger group of people
For me the best weapon is Proto. It's incredibly versatile due to it's amazing reload time, high accuracy, high penetration, and an ammo capacity of 8. The proto can work well even at longer ranges (though it has a pretty severe dmg drop off) with it's amazing accuracy. It's shot interval is really quick so you can kill people really fast with 2 headshots. The Proto works well on horses and is my go to gun for horse pvp. The Proto is the Swiss army knife of TWW.
The only thing these ratings are missing is bullet velocity and penetration, some strong aspects of fire arms But either way, this was a great video, i like the honest look on all firearms and not a sort of "ONLY META GOOD" kind of ratings, have my congrats.
I’d say Martini Henry, Pat and Porto are the best. With the rifle you can do 64 and then 40 with pat or up close 80 and (now) 24 Proto. Plus Martini Henry can instantly kill a person up close with a headshot. There is also more visibility with the gun since the Hartford has a big circle in the middle of your screen.
The guns I honestly recommend (if you're new but you somehow managed to grind a ton of cash) is the WINCHESTER RIFLE and the LINDSAY PISTOL. Why Winchester Rifle is good for me: Now if you are a PVP user that usually uses cover like walls and rocks while fighting, I honestly recommend the Winchester Rifle because of the very fact that it's not too hard to hit from afar, if you are a close-range type of guy, NO WORRIES!!! You can still quickswitch between Winchester and other guns :) Now for Lindsay Pistol, if you farm a lot (In hunting terms, but can apply to mining too), You are in big luck, you can easily kill deer close-range, bison from afar if you get your shots right, and kill any grubbers trying to take all that gold and sapphire you managed to attain! The Lindsay is also super good for PvP due to the very fact of three aspects, quick switching, close range, and medium distanced range PvP. If I wanted I could switch from Lindsay to Winchester and if I got my shots right, DEMOLISH anyone in my way. If you find any flaw in my reasons, go ahead but don't be a little bitch about it please :)
In my opinion if you go back the week auction was added I would say the rankings would be a different gun at the end. If you really don't know what I'm talking about, it is OG spitfire where it did 55 body and 110 on head at any range which means it would definitely win, just hit one head or two body and they ded. So what do u guys think 🤔
i love that you didnt mention the sharps rifle and harmonica proto and lan or volcanic pistol is the way to go and also harmonica is basically the rifle version of a proto
guys when your watching this video make sure to remember every single gun he rates is just by his opinion every wild west player has their own style of play and choice so make sure not to just go buying your lives away to expensive guns such as the hartford or the auction guns just because in the clips he uses them very well
i think schwarzlose is the best one if you complain about playing with just one gun because it has a high reload speed, good accuracy and avarage damage
Sharps is actually decent even though you hate it so much you didn't include it. Your just using it completely wrong. The fact that everyone tries to use weapons that are clearly meant to be snipers in regular combat is just dumb. Sharps is designed for sniping, and it's quite good at it. It also works for fighting from behind cover pretty well because it's quite easy to pop up from behind cover and quickscope the enemy before they can do anything for a nice one shot. People who play this game just have zero common sense. They will try using a shotgun as a rifle and a rifle as a shotgun and then complain about how the weapons aren't working correctly.
The lockhe's doubleshot feature makes it less accurate then advertised, but is great for "one" tapping and fanning. Also has good reload speed. So it is good.
@@HANKSANDY69420 Honestly who is still grinding solo? Honestly just get into some faction, hire some workers and gift them discord nitro as payment. Tried it once and got 60k in HALF AN HOUR 🥶 Edit: im joking i never did, but thats something i hear so often
@@flundale bro lazy but ok. I just now started grinding with a friend. But soloing still works fine. But finding a friend to grind with is hard honestly
My loadout: whinchester (to make up for patersons long reload) Paterson Navy (Very powerful revolver great for most ranges) Sawed off (clutch reload and very OP in close to Mid range)
I use the 1855 shot when pirating because when ppl are mining or hunting and they lose half their health to someone zooming by on a horse it freaks them out. Then I get my cursed volcanic pistol and finish em off
I totally agree with u Bec I use Paterson and prototype with harmonica and I be dominating servers thx so much for posting this makes me feel more confident in my choice is guns xD
my loadout is hartsford, proto, lindsay its VERY effective, hartsford for long ranges, proto for mid to close ranges, and lindsay for finish them off. its very good for combat, and when you grind it can save you from toxic people targeting you for your loot =)
1 year later and im watching this.... personally in my opinion the peacekeeper is actually REALLY Good, whenever im fighting and i run out of ammo i just switch to peacekeeper and fan it.
2:40 | *THANK THE LORD ABOVE, SOMEONE FINALLY SAID IT, AND TT OF ALL PEOPLE!* But still what you ended up saying and that rating bro...people should rate by how many hits to kill. Most guns deal between 50 and 99 headshot dmg so it'd be a two-shot kill, and two major sections in body-damage for most guns are 3 shot kills and 4 shot kills. The Peacekeeper, Volcanic pistol, and Prototype pistol have 4 shot body dmg but are all fairly good. The Winchester and Lynx do the same hit to kill damage, proving my point about the Lynx-it's hella overrated. And the Patterson and normal Navy do the same hit-to-kill damage. Major difference is accuracy but not sniping with the "pocket sniper" that is the Patterson defeats the purpose, most use it for short to mid-range battles, damn. Also since it cant one tap, sniping with it won't be as effective. Also the Winchester, Navy, and LeMat do the EXACT SAME DAMAGE, lol, would make quite a loadout
Even statistically, putting Hartford at #1 is sketchy, to say the least. Pratically, the best rifle statistically and for most players skillset and playstyle is the Winchester
1 thing: i disagree that the spitfire is only for sniping (i also think its really overpriced), if ur like me u hit headshots pretty often, and we saw that the spitfire did 60 damage headshot at close range, so i believe that if u get used to the accuracy then it can be really good for both close and long range
i think the best gun in the game is a three way tie between lan proto and pat. lan is great a mid to close range due to the quick damage. Proto is used for all ranges and is great for getting initial damage, and is the first gun i would use if all my guns run out of ammo because of the reliability. finally the pat because it’s great at all ranges besides long ranges, and is so great at getting initial damage as well. a quick headshot with pat followed by a body shot with lan or proto or most guns gets you a really quick kill. it’s only downside imo is that it needs another gun to support it to be good. yeah i wrote an essay jesus
Lan is the best bc even with max dmg drop off it three shots which is insane for its fire rate, only thing bad abt it is the reload, but usually u can kill them before u have to reload. The proto is the best secondary since it can easily finish off anyone and doesn’t punish bad aim.
@@biljanadimovski6484 its the best for hunting and its the best sniping rifle in the game its even somewhat good in short distance bc of its secondary sight
dragoon in the very early part of the game was probably the best gun you could've had If you used mule shotgun and mule sawed off with the dragoon you could 1 tap someone with mule shotgun with 1 shot and then once you were out of ammo on the mule shotgun you could switch to the sawed off and pair it with the dragoon
I actually bought the harmonica rifle but i sold it to buy the Winchester, then i sold my Winchester to buy hartford, then when i thought about it i realised i was going in a circle
If you are statistically chosing the best (good on you for pointing out preference) then you'd find the Lynx is overrated from the start and the Winchester rules
Horse bow is hands down best primary cuz you can get poison arrow witch can screw up people's screens and rocket arrows that can 1 shot and shots fast with a body shot 48 and head shot 96
I used to use 3 guns Winchester Patterson and Lancaster or some time prototype but after the delay with quick switching idk if I should change it its hard to shoot
For rifle i say winchester and volcanic rifle. For pistols the lancaster, prototype and volcanic pistol. For Revolvers patterson navy. Shotguns is 1855 shotgun.
For those who can't play the wild west like me because it lags too much play west bound also the best gun in the game is the mondragon rifle the best pistol in the game is the Jolland pistol ID recommend using volcanic but it's your choice
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Mistake - BRO ITS Hamerless I DID A EDITING MISTAKE 2:25
Also I didn't include Guycot carbine, volcanic and sharps cuz they are pretty much one of the worst choices for rifle pvp in mid and close range.
You're better off using a shotgun then them.
congrats on 20k hope you get 100k
Yes it was great!
my guy going to have 100k by the end of next year
Tt did you forget the guycot
Yes
I think you should include bullet penetration. Maybe it is not a very used thing but still is. Also, I need to mention bullet velocity, which is a very important thing.
I agree. I have gotten countless kills while fort raiding/defending because I could penetrate most of the wooden walls with the Hartford rifle. I once got accused of wall hacking! 😂
@@ilyascollier8943 agree. also killed countless of people while bounty hunting in outlaw's perch and the bar in bronze village by bullet penetration
How does he aim without slowing down
How do you know where they are?
@@personman2346 mainly guessing
Bro didn’t do his homework just for us
Yes thé best youtuber
I think the Paterson should be ranked higher cause it’s drop off is very low compared to other guns. It’s 100% accuracy allows you to kinda snipe as well
i used most of the wepons here and its just fun to watch the clips keep up the awesome content man
i think the mares leg although not used as much anymore is still a very solid weapons
i concur
yea but only some people have it, which is prob why he didnt review it as he maybe didnt have it
@@pittau8727 honsetly they should add it some way as its not game breaking overpowered just rare
@@edhales2994 That's the point, it's an early access reward, stripping that would make OGs very angry
Personally I use a proto and lancaster combo because it covers mid and close range wonderfully, and I just use whatever rifle or shotgun I feel like using then. For me, since I often miss shots if im not at close or mid range I don't use hartford since it requires some proper skill (one shot means you gotta make it hit)
completley agree, I've used the pat proto hartford probably ever since I've managed to get the auction guns them selfs, ironically enough I mostly use the hartford as a secondary, while paterson is the primary and protoype is for shiftshooting a bigger group of people
hey...
For me the best weapon is Proto. It's incredibly versatile due to it's amazing reload time, high accuracy, high penetration, and an ammo capacity of 8. The proto can work well even at longer ranges (though it has a pretty severe dmg drop off) with it's amazing accuracy. It's shot interval is really quick so you can kill people really fast with 2 headshots. The Proto works well on horses and is my go to gun for horse pvp. The Proto is the Swiss army knife of TWW.
Yo man proto suck as hell its probably the worst gun
@@alexisjaureguiberry1584 bros looking for a fight💀💀
@@alexisjaureguiberry1584 bros probably too poor to afford the proto so resorts to calling it bad so the people who aren't broke feel bad
The only thing these ratings are missing is bullet velocity and penetration, some strong aspects of fire arms
But either way, this was a great video, i like the honest look on all firearms and not a sort of "ONLY META GOOD" kind of ratings, have my congrats.
Thanks!
I’d say Martini Henry, Pat and Porto are the best. With the rifle you can do 64 and then 40 with pat or up close 80 and (now) 24 Proto. Plus Martini Henry can instantly kill a person up close with a headshot. There is also more visibility with the gun since the Hartford has a big circle in the middle of your screen.
The guns I honestly recommend (if you're new but you somehow managed to grind a ton of cash) is the WINCHESTER RIFLE and the LINDSAY PISTOL.
Why Winchester Rifle is good for me:
Now if you are a PVP user that usually uses cover like walls and rocks while fighting, I honestly recommend the Winchester Rifle because of the very fact that it's not too hard to hit from afar, if you are a close-range type of guy, NO WORRIES!!! You can still quickswitch between Winchester and other guns :)
Now for Lindsay Pistol, if you farm a lot (In hunting terms, but can apply to mining too), You are in big luck, you can easily kill deer close-range, bison from afar if you get your shots right, and kill any grubbers trying to take all that gold and sapphire you managed to attain! The Lindsay is also super good for PvP due to the very fact of three aspects, quick switching, close range, and medium distanced range PvP. If I wanted I could switch from Lindsay to Winchester and if I got my shots right, DEMOLISH anyone in my way.
If you find any flaw in my reasons, go ahead but don't be a little bitch about it please :)
sharps rifle has left the chat
2:19 "You're gonna be an easy target" thats until i gun them down in a second
In my opinion if you go back the week auction was added I would say the rankings would be a different gun at the end. If you really don't know what I'm talking about, it is OG spitfire where it did 55 body and 110 on head at any range which means it would definitely win, just hit one head or two body and they ded. So what do u guys think 🤔
You forgot frozen volcanic, sharps rifle, mares leg and guycot rifle.
skipped them for having average stats
YOU'RE AVERAGE
@@TTOUFIQ Aint no way you included Yellowboy and excluded all of those
@@TTOUFIQ mares leg is op bro
I love how you used Harford and killed the man in mid-air, and before he fell down, u unequipped the rifle
3:57 | More like, the closer you are, the more of the 3 pellets hit
i love that you didnt mention the sharps rifle and harmonica proto and lan or volcanic pistol is the way to go and also harmonica is basically the rifle version of a proto
Yeah
I think navy is the best b/c its high damage and its fast reload/firing speed
What about the frozen volcanic rifle?
Not every single weapons every single current accessible weapon but the mares leg
guys when your watching this video make sure to remember every single gun he rates is just by his opinion every wild west player has their own style of play and choice so make sure not to just go buying your lives away to expensive guns such as the hartford or the auction guns just because in the clips he uses them very well
i think schwarzlose is the best one if you complain about playing with just one gun because it has a high reload speed, good accuracy and avarage damage
You forgot many other important weapons since the removal of qs made the majority of guns in the gun shop useless.
In my opinion the best weapon is either the proto or the lancaster. Proto has good damage. Lancaster is good defense weapon in my opinion.
can you pls make a vid on how to get better at pvp and includes tips and tricks thank you
Im gonna get lan because i wanna tryhard
Sharps is actually decent even though you hate it so much you didn't include it. Your just using it completely wrong. The fact that everyone tries to use weapons that are clearly meant to be snipers in regular combat is just dumb. Sharps is designed for sniping, and it's quite good at it. It also works for fighting from behind cover pretty well because it's quite easy to pop up from behind cover and quickscope the enemy before they can do anything for a nice one shot. People who play this game just have zero common sense. They will try using a shotgun as a rifle and a rifle as a shotgun and then complain about how the weapons aren't working correctly.
the fact the he didnt include the cyout chain rifle is basicly saying its the worst in the game well i bought it
and its not that bad.... i guess
TTOUFIQ is the best gun pat and Lan lol
The lockhe's doubleshot feature makes it less accurate then advertised, but is great for "one" tapping and fanning. Also has good reload speed. So it is good.
honestly, its only good for farming
@@crit5034 farming is only good if you do that one mining circle from Water Cavern to Tribal Cavern
@@HANKSANDY69420 Honestly who is still grinding solo? Honestly just get into some faction, hire some workers and gift them discord nitro as payment. Tried it once and got 60k in HALF AN HOUR 🥶
Edit: im joking i never did, but thats something i hear so often
@@flundale bro lazy but ok. I just now started grinding with a friend. But soloing still works fine. But finding a friend to grind with is hard honestly
@@flundale i mean, thats kinda cheating, you're essential paying for money, if it was intended there would a purchase money system
4:45 | Very good rating for THIS gun. Damn, TT
I think the pat proto and lynx is the best or i think proto pat and harford is the best i cant choice.
If only this video was "best weapon", I'd say Horse Bow with Arrow Bombs :troll:
fr
Beastly set is Harmonica rifle + cursed volcanic pistol + peacekeeper
Your a bronzie
Some time back with old pvp lemat navy/sawed off and mule went crazy especially with the hunting knife times before any special stuff
the LeMat is really good in a close ranged fight due to its high damage and fan-fire speed.
ayo what is ur editor app?
My loadout: whinchester (to make up for patersons long reload)
Paterson Navy (Very powerful revolver great for most ranges)
Sawed off (clutch reload and very OP in close to Mid range)
Also dude congrats for the 20k subs I wish you road the 100k subs!!!
Thanks a ton!
I use the 1855 shot when pirating because when ppl are mining or hunting and they lose half their health to someone zooming by on a horse it freaks them out. Then I get my cursed volcanic pistol and finish em off
I totally agree with u Bec I use Paterson and prototype with harmonica and I be dominating servers thx so much for posting this makes me feel more confident in my choice is guns xD
hey i have question for u i got vip and im using vip olden un its good can u tryor rate it ?
Yo i love you that tt is uploading daily now he das make my day
my loadout is hartsford, proto, lindsay
its VERY effective, hartsford for long ranges, proto for mid to close ranges, and lindsay for finish them off. its very good for combat, and when you grind it can save you from toxic people targeting you for your loot =)
I just always knew you would hit 20k Subs :)
🎉
1 year later and im watching this.... personally in my opinion the peacekeeper is actually REALLY Good, whenever im fighting and i run out of ammo i just switch to peacekeeper and fan it.
hey TTOUFIQ what do ya think about the new model 3?
After the navy revolver is very good in pvp cause you can easily fight against a lanc or a proto by the hight damage and the two shot
TT what is a good gun setup for a mid game or beginner?
2:40 | *THANK THE LORD ABOVE, SOMEONE FINALLY SAID IT, AND TT OF ALL PEOPLE!*
But still what you ended up saying and that rating bro...people should rate by how many hits to kill. Most guns deal between 50 and 99 headshot dmg so it'd be a two-shot kill, and two major sections in body-damage for most guns are 3 shot kills and 4 shot kills. The Peacekeeper, Volcanic pistol, and Prototype pistol have 4 shot body dmg but are all fairly good. The Winchester and Lynx do the same hit to kill damage, proving my point about the Lynx-it's hella overrated. And the Patterson and normal Navy do the same hit-to-kill damage. Major difference is accuracy but not sniping with the "pocket sniper" that is the Patterson defeats the purpose, most use it for short to mid-range battles, damn. Also since it cant one tap, sniping with it won't be as effective.
Also the Winchester, Navy, and LeMat do the EXACT SAME DAMAGE, lol, would make quite a loadout
Hi. Very good video man, Thanks!! 😊
No problem 👍
Even statistically, putting Hartford at #1 is sketchy, to say the least. Pratically, the best rifle statistically and for most players skillset and playstyle is the Winchester
Paterson + Proto + Hartford = Best Trio
Love the video keep it up your gonna have to help me make my videos some time hehe.
Nice vid keep up the awesome work 👍
Thanks, will do!
1 thing:
i disagree that the spitfire is only for sniping (i also think its really overpriced), if ur like me u hit headshots pretty often, and we saw that the spitfire did 60 damage headshot at close range, so i believe that if u get used to the accuracy then it can be really good for both close and long range
Copium
@@eaterofyes9999 its not copium, its called an opinion
i use lancaster, proto and winchester
u forgot the guycot carabine, but the video is amazing
you are a machine in shooting
10:07
Fennec: And if you know, I don't miss.
Even a year later, I’m still tied to my golden dragoon and golden Mauser
Lan and Proto goated
i love how he used the mario odyssey music at 6:54
My guy doesnt even mention that the dragoon does 17 dmg *per pellet*. Not total, it shoots multiple pellets per shot
yeah its a shotgun
TTOUFIQ can u pls make a vid on what screen recording program u use because i just started a tww channel and my vid quality SUCKS
i think the best gun in the game is a three way tie between lan proto and pat. lan is great a mid to close range due to the quick damage. Proto is used for all ranges and is great for getting initial damage, and is the first gun i would use if all my guns run out of ammo because of the reliability. finally the pat because it’s great at all ranges besides long ranges, and is so great at getting initial damage as well. a quick headshot with pat followed by a body shot with lan or proto or most guns gets you a really quick kill. it’s only downside imo is that it needs another gun to support it to be good. yeah i wrote an essay jesus
if you read all of that props to you
@@unpleasnt thanks
Lan is the best bc even with max dmg drop off it three shots which is insane for its fire rate, only thing bad abt it is the reload, but usually u can kill them before u have to reload. The proto is the best secondary since it can easily finish off anyone and doesn’t punish bad aim.
@@unpleasnt I red it all😊
But why dose he have a better editor then flamingo like- the editing is sso good!!!!!
great thank you so much also I noticed you skipped guycott carbine but now I know what guns to grind for! photo and Lancaster and other one
Srry tt I didn’t read that comment
IMO I think the sharps rifle is very underrated. If you learn how to quick scope it like the hardford, you can one shot someone at any range!
ur opinion is wrong
nah spitfire better
its just hartford with worst scope and speed but better headshot i thin kits just good for hunting
@@biljanadimovski6484 its the best for hunting and its the best sniping rifle in the game its even somewhat good in short distance bc of its secondary sight
@@por3896 incorrect, mule shotgun is the best for hunting, and spitfire outperforms it in sniping, but sharps rifle is very cheap compared to spitfire
dragoon in the very early part of the game was probably the best gun you could've had
If you used mule shotgun and mule sawed off with the dragoon you could 1 tap someone with mule shotgun with 1 shot and then once you were out of ammo on the mule shotgun you could switch to the sawed off and pair it with the dragoon
"I have rated all the weapons in the game"
the sharp rifle sobbing in a corner
Bro you're cracked 👌 ❤ your videos
If you want to know my mostly used weapon load out is-Hartford, Lancaster, and Navy Revolver. :D
Mine is Spit, Lan, Pat
I actually bought the harmonica rifle but i sold it to buy the Winchester, then i sold my Winchester to buy hartford, then when i thought about it i realised i was going in a circle
If we exclude the hartflod, what would be the second best primary rifle or shotgun? Thanks for this video btw, it was really helpful
As a winchester enjoier i can confirm that is really good.
The navy revolver is my favorite because I’m pretty good at aiming it but sometimes it does just shoot in a random direction sometimes
If you are statistically chosing the best (good on you for pointing out preference) then you'd find the Lynx is overrated from the start and the Winchester rules
I personally use a frozen volc,cursed volc, Lan combo its perfect for me but i like the hartford, proto and pat combo too
Yoooo nice aim my favourite is pat navy
btw 7:17 music is last breath phase 3
Horse bow is hands down best primary cuz you can get poison arrow witch can screw up people's screens and rocket arrows that can 1 shot and shots fast with a body shot 48 and head shot 96
My dream loadout is the winchester [owned] cursed volcanic pistol [owned] and the Navy Paterson [Not owned]
BIG JIMMY: MULE | SAWED OFF | OCCULT SAWED OFF
*:TROLLFACE: INTENSIFYES*
I just found your channel
I think imma subscribe
This weapon guide, is the best weapon guide I've every watched. Keep it up! Also, how do you get Paterson navy?
The auction.
the dragoon is sorts of a revolver tho, it has a barrel and a hammer and all that.
A drum*
For me, the best pistol and one of the best weapons in general is the Cursed Volcanic. Its fun, skillful, and balanced
Hello, TTOUFIQ. Would you like to offer for my albino gator pelt, lancaster, or Proto?
the 20k special
better be good
will be dw
I used to use 3 guns Winchester Patterson and Lancaster or some time prototype but after the delay with quick switching idk if I should change it its hard to shoot
Would the VIP Mauser be a good gun for shift lock?
i still have the same peacekeep that i started with and now i use it as pat and peacekeep combo/i have proto too
For rifle i say winchester and volcanic rifle.
For pistols the lancaster, prototype and volcanic pistol.
For Revolvers patterson navy.
Shotguns is 1855 shotgun.
I come from future and say model 3 is not the best non auction gun but it’s the model 3 lighting
what use your editor video????
for me harmonica
new shotgun sawed-off from the event
and the lochke idk how its called 6 bullet's but shoots x2
I have 3 spit ,13 pat ,11 lanc ,16proto and axe gun I use Hartford pat and proto it’s my main load out
nice
You still play the game my guy?
For those who can't play the wild west like me because it lags too much play west bound also the best gun in the game is the mondragon rifle the best pistol in the game is the Jolland pistol ID recommend using volcanic but it's your choice
I had a proto but I got scammed :( so should I save up and buy a new proto or get a pat?