@@drislady Exactly‼️ No conscience whatsoever. She was writing about education & asking people for books 📚 on reparations. But the powers that be do not want ADOS made whole so they pay & anoint a co-opter.
Lord have mercy, the brother in the blue suit does not need to be in this discussion. Not only was he wrong as hell, but his talking points were all over the place.
@chinajoe272 do your homework, I can't argue with people who talk about things they know nothing about. You are loud and wrong. I don't have time for ignorant trolls! Wasn't Louisiana part of the Confederacy? Thar means the ceded from The Union! Stop being wilfully stupid!
Black Americans have and deserve to have their unique ethnicity respected. I’m first gen afro Caribbean and like our good sis said we can work collectively and individually. Non AA’s can support the cause but we should be fighting in our ancestral homelands to run us our check for enslavement.
My maternal grandmother's parents moved from Barbados to the US in 1914 and 1916. That line was emancipated 30 years before my American Freedmen ancestors. While they lived through Jim Crow, I respectfully disagree with my Bajan line qualifying for reparatory justice in the US under any 1865 claim.
Much respect to you for taking that stance. It speaks volumes and shows that you have integrity and support the push for reparations for Black descendants of enslaved Americans.
For real reparations: they identify an actual victim of the offense in question. They specify the abuses and damages. They assign a dollar amount for their compensation. They pay the victim. If the victim is deceased; they identify the closest living legal heir and pay them. What is the name of the victim that you are trying to collect the unpaid reparations for?
Im a Jamaican man and I can say UNEQUIVOCALLY that Only FBA or ADOS people are owed reparations byt the Americans government. If you descend from the families that were enslaved then you should be apportioned based on that lineage. In Canada they provide different levels of protection, taxation etc to indigenous people based on if they are mixed with out side groups or 100% fully treaty indian. A similar system could be set up in America so that people with outside mixed ethnic/ racial or cultural roots would still be recognized but not the same as 100% ADOS. This is the only fair proposal i can think of
NHJ should not be leading this! It should be Yvette Carnell. NHJ lets Michael Harriot get away with saying dangerous rhetoric that is harmful to our reparations claim. Instead of giving pushback she pivots to "who should get it is the least of our concerns". NHJ ain't ready for this fight, she's not willing to lose friends and opportunities.
It’s not that NHJ jacked Yvette and Tonetalks content and message without giving them credit-gotta love receipts- it’s that she blatantly revising her misinformed positions, while sucking all the momentum out from our genuine small donation funded, grassroots organization (ADOS AF).
I just want to shout out Yvette Carnell and Antonio Moore for all of their who coined the fraise “American descendants of slavery” and all the talking points that you Nicole Hannah Jones repeating. Reparations are owed to us based on our lineage in this country.
Harriot is all over the place on this. His commentary is completely unintelligible and scattered. Hannah Jones is making sense but that is primarily because these ideas are not her own and have been clearly laid out, articulated and explained by Antonio Moore and Yvette Carnell, who also informed Darity’s work. She is literally parroting Moore and Carnell without any reference whatsoever to them. I hope that she mentions them in her full talk, otherwise she should be ashamed of herself for co-opting someone else’s ideas when they are fully baked, without any attribution whatsoever.
For real reparations: they identify an actual victim of the offense in question. They specify the abuses and damages. They assign a dollar amount for their compensation. They pay the victim. If the victim is deceased; they identify the closest living legal heir and pay them. What is the name of the victim that you are trying to collect the unpaid reparations for?
@@journeyman378NHJ has stolen ALL of Yvette Carnell and Antonio Moore, ADOS talking points & intellectual material, presenting it as her own, YET calling them trash. God sees her.
Anybody who has, themselves suffered tangible harm from the violation of individual rights would be eligible for reparations from the person that violated their rights. .
NHJ is correct on this talking point however Caribbean/African immigrants are not qualified for get reparation who were here between 1920 and 1960 because they chose to come here
Nikole Hannah Jones stole everything that is coming out of her mouth from Yvette Carnell and Antonio Moore; the cofounders of the American Descendants of Slavery Advocacy Foundation.
Black immigrants didnt even start getting here until the 1980s. Michael's argument doesn't even make sense. All its doing is undermining and confusing the conversation...its illogical.
Hannah use to argue with co-ADOS Founder Yvette Carnell on who gets Reparations, now she tries to use ADOS talking points as if they were her original ideals yet CONSTANTLY gets things wrong. LORD have mercy 💀
US 🇺🇲 chattel slavery was a government institution so the US 🇺🇲 government owes reparations. Tell that ALL of the other groups that received reparations from the US 🇺🇲 government - Japanese, Italians, Native Americans, Jewish people & most recently, Guamanians.
@@sistahb5159 Nobody is awarded reparations for being an ethnicity. The federal government had no jurisdiction over slavery at all. If you aren't out anything; You aren't owed anything. 'Tell that to....' just means you haven't got anything to say about it.
@@sistahb5159 All those reparations you mention were done in real time... not 150 years later. Not to mention they don't add up to a fraction of the minimum 14 trillion dollars reparations would cost. Where is that money supposed to come from? It's way past time to find another excuse.
Both of you, tell that to Native Americans who are receiving reparations right now for what was done to their ancestors hundreds of years ago. God sees you. 👀
@@sistahb5159 Deflection noted. What the tribes are receiving is treaty based international aid. What nation do you seek that for? Nobody gets awarded reparations for being an ethnicity. God sees you....
The sheer chaos witnessed in these comments stem from the uneducated discourse presented on this stage. When presented as a coherent and intelligent lineage claim (per US Supreme Court), the path becomes very clear. ADOS
Reparations is actual proven victims being compensated by their actual violators. Forcing the innocent to pay nonvictims for something that happened to neither of them is not reparations. If you aren't out anything; You aren't owed anything.
Reparations is never paid by individuals and has always been paid by the institution that sanctioned the mistreatment. The actual violators that sanctioned the enslavement of Black people in America was the US government. Who do you think paid white Jews for the Holocaust in Germany. Do you think it came out of Hitler’s checking account or cash apps from random Nazi’s.😳😳😳
@@hmenef Incorrect. The federal government had no jurisdiction over slavery. It was entirely under state law. For real reparations: they identify an actual victim of the offense in question. They specify the abuses and damages. They assign a dollar amount for their compensation. They pay the victim. If the victim is deceased; they identify the closest living legal heir and pay them. What is the name of the victim that you are trying to collect the unpaid reparations for?
Its not slavery that has caused the most damage, but Jim Crow, which there are many who are still alive today who experienced it. Therefore, based on your own standards you agree with reparations...
@TheEmpiricistNetwork Exactly. I agree with actual proven victims being compensated by their actual violators. I disagree with forcing the innocent to pay nonvictims for something that happened to neither of them. I agree with reparations. I disagree with looting.
@@michaelpcoffee Reparations are paid everyday, for nearly every grievance in society except those involving injustices against black Americans… even ill- are given more priority…
Her response when asked who deserves repatriations of "Why you ask me?" tells you all you need to know about her level seriousness on the subject. Her Half baked sassiness, wholesale reappropriation of Yvette Carnell and Antonio Moore's conceptual framework, and an unwillingness to substantively acknowledge, differ to or work with those who actually are invested in movement work around this issue is damning.
17:01 They deserve reparations regarding a claim against biased government policies. Though, with that said there would have to be a separate claim because there was money taken from American Freedman in the same way prior to the mass immigration of other Black looking people in the 50s.
People from 1800 to 1970 should get reparations do it like you did stimulus checks each month tell you get to the amount owned. 😮simple. When did jim crow stop.
OMG!!! That guy was so inarticulate. I’ve never come across who spoke in eclipses like him. I digress. I agree with Nichole. I vote for her to be the spokesperson. As black ppl we have to unite and get money from all colonizers.
Absolutely not with regards to her being the spokesperson. Everything she stated was taken from Yvette Carnell and Antonio Moore. If you want a spokesperson, it needs to be them.
Now what does Reparations look like? It should look like ... 1.Land 2. Property 3.Cash lump sum payment 4.Monthly payments 5.Cash for Entreprenship in Ai 6.Free College tuition/Room and board 7.Free Healthcare,Dental and Pyschologist 8.A protected class 9.All tax free
You forgot the weed economy.. that biggest apology for that war on drugs bs reparations should be factually funded by the recreational cannabis economy like casinos for native ppl
@@jandc16 it makes perfect sense why would you vote for someone that’s not supporting your issues or don’t care about you at all it’s gonna be the same thing with the micro level. Everyone vote with people that support their issues and help forward their agenda and the causes that effect there people. When someone says something that’s supposed to be anti-Semitic or push forward Jewish cause European cause the Hispanic cause as a group they don’t vote for them so we… all of those groups received reparations from the government both citizen and non citizens….
@dross759 OK. I sorta see how you come to that, but to me, it's a numbers game. One person doesn't run no show. If we want restorative justice, then we have to vote in people who look like us and think like us. The way I see it, you have a senate that's made up of 100 people. Three are black, with one fighting for the other team just for a butter biscuit. In the house, you have 440 reps with only 50 to 60 black reps with 4 or 5 holding w.s. water. So, from what's happening, it's more of a numbers game. We have to vote in more of us to get the results we want. HR40 is a start. Now we need to put folks in who take hr40 and make it a reality. So, to me, in essence, we have to vote. Cause those against us want us not to vote to lose our voice and be silenced.
@@RH_DBYvette Carnell and Antonio Moore are the co-founders of ADOS modern-day reparations movement who put reparations in the mainstream media. Everybody is stealing their talking points and intellectual material - NHJ, the rest of the boule & their controlled opposition White funded organizations & White & non-Black POC.
2:32 There is a debt for enslavement. There is a debt for that which happened after and there is also a debt owed to foreign born Black people that started migrating in large numbers after Civil Rights that also experience racism. Even with that said, they are three separate issues. Also when it comes to the claims regarding enslavement, the plaintiffs and defendants are specific. We are discussing legal terms and the definitions do not disappear because we are not talking about our community. When it was discussed concerning the internment of Japanese Americans, it was cash. Every other time it has been cash. We give the Jewish community and send Israel cash. Now we give other things in addition, but all of the reparations paid thus far had a foundation of cash. We deserve the same amd then we can discuss free education and taxes.
What am I watching? Did this man just bring up white people who were “enslaved”? Is he always this embarrassing or is he purposely acting dense to help elevate this (bi-racial) woman to appear as a reparations expert for Black Americans? This whole segment wreaks. It's inauthentic; pure BS.
My understanding of his point was that he was against lineage reparations because there will be people who have identified as White all their lives (passing), that have actual Black lineage and would be based on that criteria eligible.
You really need to ask who would qualify for reparations? 😂 If you have to ask who qualifies, let someone else head this topic! Who the hell got the dude in blue to speak? 😂 Jamaicans have to go to their home country to request their reparations. Also, it should be a given that reparations should cover the effects of slavery during, and after it ended. We all know the damage that it did afterwards in a society that still never accepted Black Americans who descended from slavery.
American Freedmen have been saying this for the longest time and speaking on the fallout from being Emancipated in the United States. Of course we are speaking about the badges and incidents of slavery.
Are you opposing the use of government force to implement racial discrimination; or are you promoting it? It makes government into a powerful weapon in the hands of militant racial chauvinists. I oppose that wholeheartedly.
Sir, did they use force from the government to give Israel their money or Ukraine their money for the Japanese who’s pay reparations their money? So what are you talking about? Exactly
Like she said only if your ancestors experienced it here in the United States. Now any other race feel they deserve reparations too and it happened to them in the US then they deserve it as well. But if it didn't then they need to go where they people were enslaved at other then the US.
Name the Africans and Arabs that enslaved Black people on American soil for 246 years which is how America was built and is the source of all the material wealth that allowed America to have the economic standing that they have in the world today. Why should the broke down impoverished Europeans that showed up on the shores of Ellis Island with lint in their pockets been able to benefit from the 246 years of Black labor when they contributed absolutely nothing to the creation of America. The people in America today that classify themselves as white are the biggest recipients of getting set asides and benefits based solely on race…As a white person you are not in the position to dictate anything as it relates to a debt that is owed from the American government and not a bunch of whiny broke trailer park white people who likely don’t have two nickels to rub together in spite of all the racial privilege they have been afforded.
FYI Negro didn’t mean African at that time and also negroes were here in America before 1619. Also enslavement of negroes in English colonial America began in 1609, starting with indigenous negroes. Also the infamous black slave owner in the Chesapeake came as an indentured servant from England not Africa in 1621 and obtained the American dream for him and his family. Is his descendants eligible for reparations when they came as indentured servants? Also, before institutionalized race based enslavement was implemented in the colonies in 1675, discriminatory laws were implemented.
Although slavery was an abomination, is there any positive value to having been born in America in the last one hundred years (despite all the Jim Crow issues) than having been born somewhere in Africa?
@@amenx Thank you for your reply. The percentage of Africans who made it to America and grew wealthy here is very, very, very tiny. The percentage of American Black folk that have created a much better life than the life Africans face is huge. Really huge. It's just a thought...
@@amenx One other thought: There is plenty of generational trauma in Africa. Millions have been killed in tribal uprisings, radical Muslim terror campaigns, African slavery upon other Africans, civil wars, and wars between different countries in the last several decades: Rwanda, DRC, Kenya, Chad, Mali, Namibia, Sudan, and Niger just to name some... Also, Africa suffered through some truly awful pandemics where people were literally dropping dead in the streets. Not just COVID...Remember the EBOLA pandemic?
@@robbrown4621 True but it’s not to. E confused with our 400 year trauma here in America we are NOT the same. They are raised very tribalistic WE are NOT. Our ancestors here fought to get to this point HERE in AMERICA you cannot conflate the two
@2:00, the brother in the...interesting suit said that we assume it's about slavery. THAT's what reparations was promised for!! It's *reparations for slavery.* I'm guessing the only reason his snaggle-toothed self is up there is to be a voice of opposition. Family in other countries can get theirs, too, *from the countries that enslaved them.* You're a descendant of enslaved peoples in Haiti, tell France to cut y'alls checks. Dominican Republic...nevermind. They're in a state of denial. Jamaica, tell England to cut y'alls checks. And, so on...
Harriot said White culture wasn't invented until the 17th century. If that is the case, when did the concept of Black people begin? Afrocentric scholar say the word Kemet translates to mean "the land of the Blacks" in stead of 'the black land', which is the translation of the word White scholars have used. So, who were these ancient Black people distinguishing themselves from? This is a question of logic/reasoning/critical thinking, which is sadly, often lacking in discussions among us, in recent decades. The question - who would qualify for reparations, would be determined by those would have the power to decide on that question. Who should qualify for reparation is what we can discuss. Even though we must assume the who refers to "us", at some point in the reasoning process, the conclusion that humanity is due reparations for the historic inhumanity we have inflicted on each other, should come up. What would reparations for humanity look like? I seems to me it would be a global fair/just economic system - one that operates opposite of this predatory and exploitative system, that has controlled humanity in relatively recent centuries. There is not much more for me to say about this discussion. It takes the discussion backwards not forward. However, the presence of Nicole Hannah Jones on this panel, for me, raises the issue of why her controversial comments about school integration and gentrification, which were made around the same time as her work on the 1619 Project, has not been discussed, by Black intellectuals and Black media. She says at the end, in the question and answer segment, in the youtube video 'The Color of Education', that Black children would benefit from having White children in their classrooms, and that gentrification is not necessarily a bad thing, for Black people. This is an issue worth discussing. It raises the issue of true integration, and whether most of us really want to live in communities that are not predominately Black. It raises many questions for me. Another is - if we don't want to integrate physically, shouldn't we still integrate - take on the basic norms of the dominate culture - it's way of doing the most basic things of life. Shouldn't we be bilingual? Shouldn't we speak English proficiently as well as our various regional dialects of English, since it helps us in making advancement in society? If we choose to go about our struggle so separately from the standard way of doing things, doesn't it require us to be that much more efficient at our way of doing things? As for the issue of reparations is not the reality that reparations cannot do what most people, who are in the forefront of the discussion, are saying it is to do? Won't those who are ready make the best of the opportunities that do exist, get the most that can be gotten out of reparations, while those who presently don't, won't get much more than what they get out of the opportunities that they now have? So the present conditions, will likely remain the same. Reparations can pay an unpaid debt. Anything else that is said it will do is only wishful thinking/speculations. It can't be a transfer of wealth, as most wealth is owned by a very few people. It alone cannot repair or undo the harm enslavement caused. Individuals effected largely must do that. ua-cam.com/video/s32c2y1oGyM/v-deo.html
She mentioned LAW... "BLACK" is a legally dead re-classification. "BLACK" IS NOT A NATIONALITY. This convo is intentionally fruitless with a legally dead classification. To not acknowledge this is asinine.
That weed economy tho.. that mass incarceration from the war on drugs tho.. the ppl who have STOCKS in that incarceration and are also investors in that recreational cannabis.. that's manipulation and slavery right there!!!!!
Her wisdom was picked up on sale (stolen) from Yvette Carnell and Antonio Moore and she has made bank on it. If you're going to grift, you've got to be as good as this sister.
Reparations for the descendants of slaves should be as such: play no income or property tax and if you want social security pay into it voluntarily or invest but no taxes on your investment so it will have to be a Roth. This should continue for 350 years as long as slavery lasted so we can gain the generational wealth that we lost.
Ex slaveholders got $300 per enslaved Negro/AFRICAN/NATIVE/INDIGENOUS person. Japanese Internment Camp Survivors, Native Americans and Jewish ppl(Obama) all got REPARATIONS too, so AMERICAN DESCENDANTS OF CHATTEL SLAVERY, FBA, and FREEDMEN will be next🫶🏽🖤1 Stop discussin and get to cuttin🤑 $550K per ADOCS, NoTaxes for 5 generations, tuition voucher for any college/vocational institution you can test into, land and a tractor🚜 The debt will be paid one way or another🌬
I feel like this discussion just set reparations back 100 years. The most American way to handle this is to go to war with the African countries that sold the slaves to begin with, plunder them, and divide the spoils up amongst those those who can trace their lineage back to slavery.
@@40acresandatractor Not on reparations for the descendants of the slave trade for The healing of the masses. Not on reparations reparations is healthy healing and good change it's necessary and it's time! I'm voting for Marianne Williamson
Figure out what black people on the 1900 census deserved and give that amount to their estates. Their heirs can distribute it from there. Not just a dna test, but did great grandpa, grandma leave their stuff to you. Are you family?
Fine. But first room and board would have to be deducted from that sum, if it’s supposed to replace wages. What would be the point of everyone in a family lying being given $10 dollars a piece??
General liberating slave camps in the 1860s thought 40 acres and a mule was a fair start. Was that too much? Do 2024 eyes see the situation better? What is that money amount, sitting in an index fund (growing fairly with the rest of America), equal to today? Give the people in 1900 what was denied their grandparents and parents.
Why not, Haitian revolt opened the door for Louisiana purchase. 🤷♂️ What's a couple acres - dollars. Of course they didn't give it to the formerly enslaved, not because it wasn't fair, they did not care enough. The bad people always push back. They gave black America 90 years of apartheid instead. Probably not enough will to do the just thing today. Let's just figure out what 'good' people SHOULD do, for now.
All these comments is trash. Jeez.🙄 This is not hard, folks. They explained it. Yall getting into why you don’t like NJH bringing the convo or why MH is not flowing smoother is just talking for talking sake. Both of them explained it. Lineage based and those who experienced racism who got here not rooted to American slavery. Caribbean folks should get reparations from England. Boom. The message has been sent. Stop bickering and get to the nitty gritty on how to approach the US gov’t to get it.
I am wondering if the 300 thousand Union soldiers who died in the Southern War Against The United States should be considered in the question of reparations. If so, why? If not, why not?
@@robbrown4621 Are you talking about the Confederacy or the Union? NeitherZ they weren’t fighting to free slaves. They were fighting by instruction from their superiors.
@@GCOMradio_Lyfeblood My statement was clearly stated. I am referring to 300 thousand Union soldiers who were killed by southerners in the Southern War of Succession. Do I understand you correctly when you state that the Union men who were killed were not fighting to free slaves?
@@robbrown4621 As technology advanced, slavery and the “trouble” it was causing was no longer was something the leaders wanted to invest in. When talk was happening to move forward, the South wanted to secede. The Union didn’t want that to happen so people fought over it. Technially, yes, the war was over slavery but it wasn’t because the Union had a change of heart or stood on some high moral position. It just was becoming to costly.
@@GCOMradio_Lyfeblood Thank you for your comment. I appreciate the conversation. What is the "technology" of 1860 to which you refer? What is the "cost" to which you refer that was too costly for the Union? Honestly, I do not follow your logic. Are you implying that the 300 thousand Union men who died and the other million plus Union soldiers who left their homes and families to fight to end slavery had no importance in the abolition of slavery or that their importance was subservient to other issues?
@@Yes-fe8ni Wrong. It was allowed because it was the law at the time. Now it isn't the law. You cannot penalize the current government for legal actions allowed by a previous government. That would be like charging a state that once haf capital punishment with murder for legal executions done in the past. And not every person of color in the US is the descendant of a person who was a slave in the US.
@@cnault3244This is not about POC but American Descendants of 246+ years of US 🇺🇲 Chattel Slavery immediate & ongoing discriminatory practices - independent Black towns & areas of cities destroyed, land constantly stolen, terror, killings, Black Codes, Jim Crow, no GI Bill that Whites & ALL non-Black POC received, specific eminent domain for Black communities, crack, mass incarceration, police terror etc.... & still ongoing. The Native Americans that are receiving owed monies are not the same people from 400 years ago but descendants, YET nobody has a problem with it. The US has paid out reparations many times & people accepted it. They just have a problem with Black people descended from US 🇺🇲 slavery receiving it.
You clearly don't know American history nor understand what generational systemic racial discrimination, based on lineage to institutionalized slavery has created in this Country.
@@Angbwillinspireu You clearly don't understand that people alive today are not guilty of historical wrongs ( in this case, slavery) committed generations ago. You clearly don't understand that a black person living in the US today may not be a descendant of slaves. The argument is "assuming my ancestors were abducted from Africa and sold as slaves I am now owed money from the taxpayers, even the Asian taxpayers who had nothing to do with the slavery". If reparation is mistakenly given , the solution would be to determine how much each descendant of slaves is entitled to, give them the money, and deport them back to Africa.
I am wondering if the 300 thousand Union soldiers who died in the Southern War Against The United States should be considered in the question of reparations. If so, why? If not, why not?
@@robbrown4621 Ex slaveholders got $300 per enslaved Negro/AFRICAN/NATIVE/INDIGENOUS person. Japanese Internment Camp Survivors, Native Americans and Jewish ppl(Obama) all got REPARATIONS too, so AMERICAN DESCENDANTS OF CHATTEL SLAVERY, FBA, and FREEDMEN will be next🫶🏽🖤1 Stop discussin and get to cuttin🤑 $550K per ADOCS, NoTaxes for 5 generations, tuition voucher for any college/vocational institution you can test into, land and a tractor🚜 The debt will be paid one way or another🌬
What is dude in the striped suit talking about?! He shouldn’t have been part of this conversation if his family immigrated to the USA 🇺🇸. He gave me a headache 🤕
Would I get reparations too? My great grandmother was executed by the Russians in 1920 for the crime of having employed a few ladies to sit around the kitchen table with her and sew hats, which she then resold for a small profit. Could reparations become something that the United Nations pushes forward around the world? There must be at least a billion people who have ancestors who were brutalized...
@robbrown4621 Dunno depends on if your ancestors were criminals. But yo beg for reparations from the American government show why immigration will end and people like you deported
If you can’t use race as a pretext then yes! If this was approved, and lineage/dna based then it would triple crime. Half wouldn’t qualify and they’d be robbing the ones who do qualify. Not to mention the felons in prison? Hood rats and thugs? Does criminal background effect eligibility? And where is the $ coming from? You can’t take someone’s land for the sins of the father right?
No, the guy is completely wrong. You have to trace back to either a Slave or a Freedmen! You can not compare Black people here in America to Jamaicans or Nigerian you can't do that! When it comes to people who have White in them they have to have 30% African just like Native Americans when getting benefits with 30% Native American..
No, reparations because it will cause problems in America.FBA only. Other countries have their own reparations programs with their respective countries. This was allowed by the government, so America, the slave owners, were within the law.
nope pay reparations it's owed it is what it is. My ancestors built this country they were beaten hanged killed raped. My grandfather grew up in jim crowe and also experienced apartheid. He served the military and didn't get the gi bill. America should have thought about this before they did what they did oh well.
That brother had my head hurting every time he spoke rattling on like the cornerstone drunk
"Reparations are not for generalized racism. " - Hannah Jones, N.
Jones stole that from Yvette Carnell, like she stole everything else from her.
@@americanlady738Thank you! No morals whatsoever. Smh
“Reparations are not for generalized racism” - Yvette Carnell
@@drislady Exactly‼️ No conscience whatsoever. She was writing about education & asking people for books 📚 on reparations. But the powers that be do not want ADOS made whole so they pay & anoint a co-opter.
@@americanlady738 i absalutely agree, why are they not givving yvette carnell her credit?
Lord have mercy, the brother in the blue suit does not need to be in this discussion. Not only was he wrong as hell, but his talking points were all over the place.
He's pathetic. Clowning. This is a serious issue.
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Jamaica is a whole different country. Louisiana is a part of the US!
He's up there doing the devil's work, causing confusion. FBA/ADOS. Period.
But it wasn't during slavery it was a French territory
@chinajoe272 do your homework, I can't argue with people who talk about things they know nothing about. You are loud and wrong. I don't have time for ignorant trolls! Wasn't Louisiana part of the Confederacy? Thar means the ceded from The Union! Stop being wilfully stupid!
@@MsDezB1No, just ADOS. Grifting Tariq Nasheed and his stolen talking points and intellectual material from Yvette Carnell and Antonio Moore - ADOS.
Louisiana plantation owners had plantations in Jamaica . Now what ?
Black Americans have and deserve to have their unique ethnicity respected. I’m first gen afro Caribbean and like our good sis said we can work collectively and individually. Non AA’s can support the cause but we should be fighting in our ancestral homelands to run us our check for enslavement.
Section 8 , Medicaid,affirmative action, black only scholarships and programs should be reparation enough
Slavery was a European enterprise like KFC . It was in the Caribbean owned by same owners in USA.
@@Lancelot0311 -Everything you mentioned isn't reparations.
My maternal grandmother's parents moved from Barbados to the US in 1914 and 1916. That line was emancipated 30 years before my American Freedmen ancestors. While they lived through Jim Crow, I respectfully disagree with my Bajan line qualifying for reparatory justice in the US under any 1865 claim.
You get it…I’m a Bajan and I get it too. Some just don’t want to ‘get it’
Much respect to you for taking that stance. It speaks volumes and shows that you have integrity and support the push for reparations for Black descendants of enslaved Americans.
@@kahluaqueen - I understand fully.
These folks have agreed to sabotage it and they'll be cared for, allegedly.
You’d be wrong .
For real reparations: they identify an actual victim of the offense in question.
They specify the abuses and damages.
They assign a dollar amount for their compensation.
They pay the victim.
If the victim is deceased; they identify the closest living legal heir and pay them.
What is the name of the victim that you are trying to collect the unpaid reparations for?
Im a Jamaican man and I can say UNEQUIVOCALLY that Only FBA or ADOS people are owed reparations byt the Americans government. If you descend from the families that were enslaved then you should be apportioned based on that lineage. In Canada they provide different levels of protection, taxation etc to indigenous people based on if they are mixed with out side groups or 100% fully treaty indian. A similar system could be set up in America so that people with outside mixed ethnic/ racial or cultural roots would still be recognized but not the same as 100% ADOS.
This is the only fair proposal i can think of
NHJ should not be leading this! It should be Yvette Carnell. NHJ lets Michael Harriot get away with saying dangerous rhetoric that is harmful to our reparations claim. Instead of giving pushback she pivots to "who should get it is the least of our concerns". NHJ ain't ready for this fight, she's not willing to lose friends and opportunities.
Thank you
Not her either
Yvette Carnell is a horrible leader. She will create a giant reparations cult.
that panel are idiots ... smh
Definitely Yvette as the leader. NHJ uses all of Yvette’s talking points.
If you aren't out anything;
You aren't owed anything.
It’s not that NHJ jacked Yvette and Tonetalks content and message without giving them credit-gotta love receipts- it’s that she blatantly revising her misinformed positions, while sucking all the momentum out from our genuine small donation funded, grassroots organization (ADOS AF).
It's because people dislike Yvette. Yvette is not a great leader even though she brought some good ideas forward at the right time.
@@arogers6296 Yeah Yvette is brilliant but she has a severe personality flaw. She is extremely unlikable.
@@arogers6296 Imagine thinking not liking someone is justification for stealing their intellectual property. Words mean things.
@@dariuschurch4119 She is brilliant *AND* extremely likable. I like her so much that I love her.
@@intentional-joy how do you love her? do you know her? this is how personality cults form.
I just want to shout out Yvette Carnell and Antonio Moore for all of their who coined the fraise “American descendants of slavery” and all the talking points that you Nicole Hannah Jones repeating. Reparations are owed to us based on our lineage in this country.
The ones who seek to take what someone else has bear the burden of proof that they own it.
The ones who whine and complain for what someone else has get nothing and like it.
Harriot is all over the place on this. His commentary is completely unintelligible and scattered. Hannah Jones is making sense but that is primarily because these ideas are not her own and have been clearly laid out, articulated and explained by Antonio Moore and Yvette Carnell, who also informed Darity’s work. She is literally parroting Moore and Carnell without any reference whatsoever to them. I hope that she mentions them in her full talk, otherwise she should be ashamed of herself for co-opting someone else’s ideas when they are fully baked, without any attribution whatsoever.
Yvette did not "inform" Darity's work that's a BS clown lie!!!
For real reparations: they identify an actual victim of the offense in question.
They specify the abuses and damages.
They assign a dollar amount for their compensation.
They pay the victim.
If the victim is deceased; they identify the closest living legal heir and pay them.
What is the name of the victim that you are trying to collect the unpaid reparations for?
American Descendants of Slavery
She did not come up with this. She stole her platform from ADOS.
Jesus, Michael, get it together. He sounds scattered and babbling. I agree with Nikhole here.
When you’re saying things that make absolutely no sense it tends to sound that way.
Nichole is borrowing from Tone and Yvette. She called us garbage before!
@@journeyman378NHJ has stolen ALL of Yvette Carnell and Antonio Moore, ADOS talking points & intellectual material, presenting it as her own, YET calling them trash. God sees her.
Anybody who has, themselves suffered tangible harm from the violation of individual rights would be eligible for reparations from the person that violated their rights. .
But people alive today have suffered no such harm.
@@ninadaly7639
That would certainly explain the lack of actual claimants.
@@michaelpcoffee It certainly would.
NHJ is correct on this talking point however Caribbean/African immigrants are not qualified for get reparation who were here between 1920 and 1960 because they chose to come here
Exactly you can’t voluntarily immigrate to a country and then say pay me reparations for my voluntary decision to come here.😳😳😳
Nikole Hannah Jones stole everything that is coming out of her mouth from Yvette Carnell and Antonio Moore; the cofounders of the American Descendants of Slavery Advocacy Foundation.
NHJ and the rest know this. It is their objective and assignment to sabotage ADOS reparations, allegedly.
Black immigrants didnt even start getting here until the 1980s. Michael's argument doesn't even make sense. All its doing is undermining and confusing the conversation...its illogical.
There have always been black immigrants…..
Hannah use to argue with co-ADOS Founder Yvette Carnell on who gets Reparations, now she tries to use ADOS talking points as if they were her original ideals yet CONSTANTLY gets things wrong. LORD have mercy 💀
Yvette looks Caucasian . She too light to get reparations .
Please post the full video of this discussion.
Claiming victimhood for what happened to other people is disgraceful.
Ascribing guilt to people who had nothing to do with the offense is atrocious.
US 🇺🇲 chattel slavery was a government institution so the US 🇺🇲 government owes reparations. Tell that ALL of the other groups that received reparations from the US 🇺🇲 government - Japanese, Italians, Native Americans, Jewish people & most recently, Guamanians.
@@sistahb5159
Nobody is awarded reparations for being an ethnicity.
The federal government had no jurisdiction over slavery at all.
If you aren't out anything;
You aren't owed anything.
'Tell that to....' just means you haven't got anything to say about it.
@@sistahb5159 All those reparations you mention were done in real time... not 150 years later. Not to mention they don't add up to a fraction of the minimum 14 trillion dollars reparations would cost. Where is that money supposed to come from? It's way past time to find another excuse.
Both of you, tell that to Native Americans who are receiving reparations right now for what was done to their ancestors hundreds of years ago. God sees you. 👀
@@sistahb5159
Deflection noted.
What the tribes are receiving is treaty based international aid.
What nation do you seek that for?
Nobody gets awarded reparations for being an ethnicity.
God sees you....
The sheer chaos witnessed in these comments stem from the uneducated discourse presented on this stage. When presented as a coherent and intelligent lineage claim (per US Supreme Court), the path becomes very clear. ADOS
Black America is ADOS, FBA and Freedman, PERIOD💪🏽🖤1
FBA is an online grifter's cult and Freedman are Native Americans and Moorish Science Temple rejects. PERIOD.
We know y’all stole from the Yvette Carnell and Antonio Moore of ADOS. Disgusting that y’alls integrity is this low. Shame on you!
Reparations is actual proven victims being compensated by their actual violators.
Forcing the innocent to pay nonvictims for something that happened to neither of them is not reparations.
If you aren't out anything; You aren't owed anything.
Reparations is never paid by individuals and has always been paid by the institution that sanctioned the mistreatment. The actual violators that sanctioned the enslavement of Black people in America was the US government. Who do you think paid white Jews for the Holocaust in Germany. Do you think it came out of Hitler’s checking account or cash apps from random Nazi’s.😳😳😳
@@hmenef
Incorrect.
The federal government had no jurisdiction over slavery.
It was entirely under state law.
For real reparations: they identify an actual victim of the offense in question.
They specify the abuses and damages.
They assign a dollar amount for their compensation.
They pay the victim.
If the victim is deceased; they identify the closest living legal heir and pay them.
What is the name of the victim that you are trying to collect the unpaid reparations for?
Its not slavery that has caused the most damage, but Jim Crow, which there are many who are still alive today who experienced it. Therefore, based on your own standards you agree with reparations...
@TheEmpiricistNetwork
Exactly.
I agree with actual proven victims being compensated by their actual violators.
I disagree with forcing the innocent to pay nonvictims for something that happened to neither of them.
I agree with reparations.
I disagree with looting.
@@michaelpcoffee Reparations are paid everyday, for nearly every grievance in society except those involving injustices against black Americans… even ill- are given more priority…
Her response when asked who deserves repatriations of "Why you ask me?" tells you all you need to know about her level seriousness on the subject. Her Half baked sassiness, wholesale reappropriation of Yvette Carnell and Antonio Moore's conceptual framework, and an unwillingness to substantively acknowledge, differ to or work with those who actually are invested in movement work around this issue is damning.
Nikole speaking facts ✊🏾
dr anderson is alive and well, who TF is she?
Nikole stole everything she's saying from Yvette Carnell.
Michael Harriot sounds crzy as hell.
They are ALL controlled opposition paid to sabotage true ADOS reparations.
1965 isn't that long ago, it's just 59yrs ago. Younger than most of our parents.
Harriot is wrong as usual!
Michael Harriet is missing a whole lot of background information.
Home girl fighting hard not to say ADOS smh stole them ppl whole movement and watered it down now struggling with talking points.
NHJ tief evuh ting from Yvette Carnell…saying “catch all” Lawd!!! How she not shame! Somebody come get she!
17:01 They deserve reparations regarding a claim against biased government policies. Though, with that said there would have to be a separate claim because there was money taken from American Freedman in the same way prior to the mass immigration of other Black looking people in the 50s.
Im glad Nicole has finally come around to Yvette and Antonio's tutoring on this topic. Excellent.
ADOS
no she stole what they were saying there a difference and she's stupid
Never happen other than a apology letters
You sound very much like your ancestors did in 1965, which was very racist and very nonsensical.
Dude is all over the place, stumbling bumbling.
She makes a great and concise argument. He may not be intentional but he’s definitely muddying her argument. He fuels the counter argument.
People from 1800 to 1970 should get reparations do it like you did stimulus checks each month tell you get to the amount owned. 😮simple. When did jim crow stop.
Wow
OMG!!! That guy was so inarticulate. I’ve never come across who spoke in eclipses like him. I digress. I agree with Nichole. I vote for her to be the spokesperson. As black ppl we have to unite and get money from all colonizers.
Absolutely not with regards to her being the spokesperson. Everything she stated was taken from Yvette Carnell and Antonio Moore. If you want a spokesperson, it needs to be them.
Now what does Reparations look like? It should look like ...
1.Land
2. Property
3.Cash lump sum payment
4.Monthly payments
5.Cash for Entreprenship in Ai
6.Free College tuition/Room and board
7.Free Healthcare,Dental and Pyschologist
8.A protected class
9.All tax free
Agree with everything stated as well as DC as a state to give Black people real political power with two senators. B1. 🛬
You forgot the weed economy.. that biggest apology for that war on drugs bs reparations should be factually funded by the recreational cannabis economy like casinos for native ppl
Anything else?? Now what does society get in return?
@@ninadaly7639 A strong economy!
@@MR.B1004. For a minute. Then we’d be right back where we started. NOT GOOD!
No Reparations No Vote
You might have to keep voting, slavery might be on the ballot one day with all the crazies running for president these days.
Please explain why no vote. I don't understand the reasoning. It makes no sense.
@@jandc16 it makes perfect sense why would you vote for someone that’s not supporting your issues or don’t care about you at all it’s gonna be the same thing with the micro level. Everyone vote with people that support their issues and help forward their agenda and the causes that effect there people. When someone says something that’s supposed to be anti-Semitic or push forward Jewish cause European cause the Hispanic cause as a group they don’t vote for them so we… all of those groups received reparations from the government both citizen and non citizens….
@dross759 OK. I sorta see how you come to that, but to me, it's a numbers game. One person doesn't run no show. If we want restorative justice, then we have to vote in people who look like us and think like us. The way I see it, you have a senate that's made up of 100 people. Three are black, with one fighting for the other team just for a butter biscuit. In the house, you have 440 reps with only 50 to 60 black reps with 4 or 5 holding w.s. water. So, from what's happening, it's more of a numbers game. We have to vote in more of us to get the results we want. HR40 is a start. Now we need to put folks in who take hr40 and make it a reality. So, to me, in essence, we have to vote. Cause those against us want us not to vote to lose our voice and be silenced.
@@jandc16 true but if neither candidate supports reparations then I won’t vote for either
I know Yvette & Tone watching this like Caitlan Clark get the spotlight. #ADOS
Oh my God. This is unreal! She is literally parroting them!!!!
Strappy is irrelevant
Tariq and his minions even more so.@@hmenef
Reparations and ADOS is bigger than Yvette.
@@RH_DBYvette Carnell and Antonio Moore are the co-founders of ADOS modern-day reparations movement who put reparations in the mainstream media. Everybody is stealing their talking points and intellectual material - NHJ, the rest of the boule & their controlled opposition White funded organizations & White & non-Black POC.
I legit can’t even understand what this guy is talking about. What did he even say?
Nothing, straight gibberish🤦🏽♂️
Word salad
Well, good to know! Most Americans have mixed heritage so looks like everyone will be able to apply.
Obsessed anti-Bl*ck troll.
what about the boule's role?
Why is Yvette Carnell and Antonio Moore NOT on stage🤔 We are OUR OWN ETHNICITY🫶🏽🖤1
traders?
@@autobotdiva9268 Founders of the movement and the most informed, educated and PLAN for AMERICAN DESCENDANTS OF CHATTEL SLAVERY💪🏽🖤1
Nobody wants to see or hear from those fraudulent buffoons.
what about the black caucus?
There is a huge difference Black Americans are Aboriginals. America is their homeland.
2:32 There is a debt for enslavement. There is a debt for that which happened after and there is also a debt owed to foreign born Black people that started migrating in large numbers after Civil Rights that also experience racism. Even with that said, they are three separate issues.
Also when it comes to the claims regarding enslavement, the plaintiffs and defendants are specific. We are discussing legal terms and the definitions do not disappear because we are not talking about our community. When it was discussed concerning the internment of Japanese Americans, it was cash. Every other time it has been cash. We give the Jewish community and send Israel cash. Now we give other things in addition, but all of the reparations paid thus far had a foundation of cash. We deserve the same amd then we can discuss free education and taxes.
What am I watching? Did this man just bring up white people who were “enslaved”? Is he always this embarrassing or is he purposely acting dense to help elevate this (bi-racial) woman to appear as a reparations expert for Black Americans? This whole segment wreaks. It's inauthentic; pure BS.
My understanding of his point was that he was against lineage reparations because there will be people who have identified as White all their lives (passing), that have actual Black lineage and would be based on that criteria eligible.
This entire discussion & production is for the sole purpose of sabotaging ADOS reparations.
Michael Harriot is talking garbage.
So is Michael Harriot proposing reimplementing the one drop rule?
Yikes!
You really need to ask who would qualify for reparations? 😂 If you have to ask who qualifies, let someone else head this topic! Who the hell got the dude in blue to speak? 😂 Jamaicans have to go to their home country to request their reparations. Also, it should be a given that reparations should cover the effects of slavery during, and after it ended. We all know the damage that it did afterwards in a society that still never accepted Black Americans who descended from slavery.
PBT gonna have a good broadcast on this
@@autobotdiva9268PBT?
American Freedmen have been saying this for the longest time and speaking on the fallout from being Emancipated in the United States. Of course we are speaking about the badges and incidents of slavery.
Wow. MH is a much better writer than he is a speaker.
Are you opposing the use of government force to implement racial discrimination; or are you promoting it?
It makes government into a powerful weapon in the hands of militant racial chauvinists.
I oppose that wholeheartedly.
Sir, did they use force from the government to give Israel their money or Ukraine their money for the Japanese who’s pay reparations their money? So what are you talking about? Exactly
Like she said only if your ancestors experienced it here in the United States. Now any other race feel they deserve reparations too and it happened to them in the US then they deserve it as well. But if it didn't then they need to go where they people were enslaved at other then the US.
What other race was in CHATTEL SLAVERY in the USA?
Please get Yvette Carnell on here..
Yvette and/or Dr. Claud Anderson.
And Antonio Moore as well.
Why the heck would my taxes go to pay reparations? Go get it from the people who really profited from it. Aftricans, Arabs and Democrats.
Name the Africans and Arabs that enslaved Black people on American soil for 246 years which is how America was built and is the source of all the material wealth that allowed America to have the economic standing that they have in the world today. Why should the broke down impoverished Europeans that showed up on the shores of Ellis Island with lint in their pockets been able to benefit from the 246 years of Black labor when they contributed absolutely nothing to the creation of America. The people in America today that classify themselves as white are the biggest recipients of getting set asides and benefits based solely on race…As a white person you are not in the position to dictate anything as it relates to a debt that is owed from the American government and not a bunch of whiny broke trailer park white people who likely don’t have two nickels to rub together in spite of all the racial privilege they have been afforded.
The United States government
How do you end Africans envying each other?
Does that actually have something to do with the subject?
🤦♀️😔
Repairs are needed for damages done throughout every justice system in every city, county, and state in bed with the US government.
FYI Negro didn’t mean African at that time and also negroes were here in America before 1619. Also enslavement of negroes in English colonial America began in 1609, starting with indigenous negroes. Also the infamous black slave owner in the Chesapeake came as an indentured servant from England not Africa in 1621 and obtained the American dream for him and his family. Is his descendants eligible for reparations when they came as indentured servants? Also, before institutionalized race based enslavement was implemented in the colonies in 1675, discriminatory laws were implemented.
Traumatizing issues we are having because we have traits of our actions
Only ADOS.
what about the Black slave owners
That guy should not be speaking on Reparations. He sounds CRAZY!!!! Listen to ADOS!!!!
Why don't you ask the question... "Who would PAY for reparations?"
Although slavery was an abomination, is there any positive value to having been born in America in the last one hundred years (despite all the Jim Crow issues) than having been born somewhere in Africa?
No because their are Africans that were able to grow wealth and migrate here. They also don’t have generational trauma
@@amenx Thank you for your reply.
The percentage of Africans who made it to America and grew wealthy here is very, very, very tiny. The percentage of American Black folk that have created a much better life than the life Africans face is huge. Really huge. It's just a thought...
@@robbrown4621 We also fought through Jim Crow to get to this point.
@@amenx One other thought: There is plenty of generational trauma in Africa. Millions have been killed in tribal uprisings, radical Muslim terror campaigns, African slavery upon other Africans, civil wars, and wars between different countries in the last several decades: Rwanda, DRC, Kenya, Chad, Mali, Namibia, Sudan, and Niger just to name some...
Also, Africa suffered through some truly awful pandemics where people were literally dropping dead in the streets. Not just COVID...Remember the EBOLA pandemic?
@@robbrown4621 True but it’s not to. E confused with our 400 year trauma here in America we are NOT the same. They are raised very tribalistic WE are NOT. Our ancestors here fought to get to this point HERE in AMERICA you cannot conflate the two
Other Black groups are AGAINST reparations for FBAs.
@2:00, the brother in the...interesting suit said that we assume it's about slavery. THAT's what reparations was promised for!! It's *reparations for slavery.* I'm guessing the only reason his snaggle-toothed self is up there is to be a voice of opposition.
Family in other countries can get theirs, too, *from the countries that enslaved them.* You're a descendant of enslaved peoples in Haiti, tell France to cut y'alls checks. Dominican Republic...nevermind. They're in a state of denial. Jamaica, tell England to cut y'alls checks. And, so on...
This dude is still tryna muddy the water he must be from another country, and dayuum go away he is irritating..tethers
Harriot said White culture wasn't invented until the 17th century. If that is the case, when did the concept of Black people begin? Afrocentric scholar say the word Kemet translates to mean "the land of the Blacks" in stead of 'the black land', which is the translation of the word White scholars have used. So, who were these ancient Black people distinguishing themselves from? This is a question of logic/reasoning/critical thinking, which is sadly, often lacking in discussions among us, in recent decades. The question - who would qualify for reparations, would be determined by those would have the power to decide on that question. Who should qualify for reparation is what we can discuss. Even though we must assume the who refers to "us", at some point in the reasoning process, the conclusion that humanity is due reparations for the historic inhumanity we have inflicted on each other, should come up. What would reparations for humanity look like? I seems to me it would be a global fair/just economic system - one that operates opposite of this predatory and exploitative system, that has controlled humanity in relatively recent centuries.
There is not much more for me to say about this discussion. It takes the discussion backwards not forward. However, the presence of Nicole Hannah Jones on this panel, for me, raises the issue of why her controversial comments about school integration and gentrification, which were made around the same time as her work on the 1619 Project, has not been discussed, by Black intellectuals and Black media. She says at the end, in the question and answer segment, in the youtube video 'The Color of Education', that Black children would benefit from having White children in their classrooms, and that gentrification is not necessarily a bad thing, for Black people.
This is an issue worth discussing. It raises the issue of true integration, and whether most of us really want to live in communities that are not predominately Black. It raises many questions for me. Another is - if we don't want to integrate physically, shouldn't we still integrate - take on the basic norms of the dominate culture - it's way of doing the most basic things of life. Shouldn't we be bilingual? Shouldn't we speak English proficiently as well as our various regional dialects of English, since it helps us in making advancement in society? If we choose to go about our struggle so separately from the standard way of doing things, doesn't it require us to be that much more efficient at our way of doing things?
As for the issue of reparations is not the reality that reparations cannot do what most people, who are in the forefront of the discussion, are saying it is to do? Won't those who are ready make the best of the opportunities that do exist, get the most that can be gotten out of reparations, while those who presently don't, won't get much more than what they get out of the opportunities that they now have? So the present conditions, will likely remain the same. Reparations can pay an unpaid debt. Anything else that is said it will do is only wishful thinking/speculations. It can't be a transfer of wealth, as most wealth is owned by a very few people. It alone cannot repair or undo the harm enslavement caused. Individuals effected largely must do that. ua-cam.com/video/s32c2y1oGyM/v-deo.html
It’s not a transfer of wealth it is paying a debt that is owed to the American descendent of slavery. Very simple, not complicated at all.
were the gilla geeche ever enslaved?
She mentioned LAW... "BLACK" is a legally dead re-classification. "BLACK" IS NOT A NATIONALITY. This convo is intentionally fruitless with a legally dead classification. To not acknowledge this is asinine.
That weed economy tho.. that mass incarceration from the war on drugs tho.. the ppl who have STOCKS in that incarceration and are also investors in that recreational cannabis.. that's manipulation and slavery right there!!!!!
This is hilarious!
This kat in the blue suit from DEM thrones .. is making me dry .. how did he get on this panel .. I salute this intelligent sister for her wisdom..
Her wisdom was picked up on sale (stolen) from Yvette Carnell and Antonio Moore and she has made bank on it. If you're going to grift, you've got to be as good as this sister.
De siStar be mostly 💯 correct✊🏿🖖🏿
Reparations for the descendants of slaves should be as such: play no income or property tax and if you want social security pay into it voluntarily or invest but no taxes on your investment so it will have to be a Roth. This should continue for 350 years as long as slavery lasted so we can gain the generational wealth that we lost.
factssssss
Ex slaveholders got $300 per enslaved Negro/AFRICAN/NATIVE/INDIGENOUS person. Japanese Internment Camp Survivors, Native Americans and Jewish ppl(Obama) all got REPARATIONS too, so AMERICAN DESCENDANTS OF CHATTEL SLAVERY, FBA, and FREEDMEN will be next🫶🏽🖤1
Stop discussin and get to cuttin🤑
$550K per ADOCS, NoTaxes for 5 generations, tuition voucher for any college/vocational institution you can test into, land and a tractor🚜 The debt will be paid one way or another🌬
How about you get nothing more than any other Americans.
His head is moving so hard it looks like he's dancing 👀
I feel like this discussion just set reparations back 100 years. The most American way to handle this is to go to war with the African countries that sold the slaves to begin with, plunder them, and divide the spoils up amongst those those who can trace their lineage back to slavery.
That's the entire intention of this so-called discussion - sabotage.
Marianne Williamson for president reparations
She is confused as fuq too🤦🏽♂️
@@40acresandatractor Not on reparations for the descendants of the slave trade for The healing of the masses. Not on reparations reparations is healthy healing and good change it's necessary and it's time! I'm voting for Marianne Williamson
🤣😂🤣🤣🤣😄😄🤣🤣🤣😂🤣🤣🤣🤣
Figure out what black people on the 1900 census deserved and give that amount to their estates. Their heirs can distribute it from there. Not just a dna test, but did great grandpa, grandma leave their stuff to you. Are you family?
Utterly delusional!
Fine. But first room and board would have to be deducted from that sum, if it’s supposed to replace wages. What would be the point of everyone in a family lying being given $10 dollars a piece??
General liberating slave camps in the 1860s thought 40 acres and a mule was a fair start. Was that too much? Do 2024 eyes see the situation better?
What is that money amount, sitting in an index fund (growing fairly with the rest of America), equal to today?
Give the people in 1900 what was denied their grandparents and parents.
Why not, Haitian revolt opened the door for Louisiana purchase. 🤷♂️ What's a couple acres - dollars.
Of course they didn't give it to the formerly enslaved, not because it wasn't fair, they did not care enough. The bad people always push back. They gave black America 90 years of apartheid instead.
Probably not enough will to do the just thing today. Let's just figure out what 'good' people SHOULD do, for now.
$5 A.A.?
All these comments is trash. Jeez.🙄 This is not hard, folks. They explained it. Yall getting into why you don’t like NJH bringing the convo or why MH is not flowing smoother is just talking for talking sake. Both of them explained it. Lineage based and those who experienced racism who got here not rooted to American slavery. Caribbean folks should get reparations from England. Boom. The message has been sent. Stop bickering and get to the nitty gritty on how to approach the US gov’t to get it.
I am wondering if the 300 thousand Union soldiers who died in the Southern War Against The United States should be considered in the question of reparations. If so, why? If not, why not?
@@robbrown4621 Are you talking about the Confederacy or the Union? NeitherZ they weren’t fighting to free slaves. They were fighting by instruction from their superiors.
@@GCOMradio_Lyfeblood My statement was clearly stated. I am referring to 300 thousand Union soldiers who were killed by southerners in the Southern War of Succession.
Do I understand you correctly when you state that the Union men who were killed were not fighting to free slaves?
@@robbrown4621 As technology advanced, slavery and the “trouble” it was causing was no longer was something the leaders wanted to invest in. When talk was happening to move forward, the South wanted to secede. The Union didn’t want that to happen so people fought over it. Technially, yes, the war was over slavery but it wasn’t because the Union had a change of heart or stood on some high moral position. It just was becoming to costly.
@@GCOMradio_Lyfeblood Thank you for your comment. I appreciate the conversation. What is the "technology" of 1860 to which you refer?
What is the "cost" to which you refer that was too costly for the Union?
Honestly, I do not follow your logic.
Are you implying that the 300 thousand Union men who died and the other million plus Union soldiers who left their homes and families to fight to end slavery had no importance in the abolition of slavery or that their importance was subservient to other issues?
Who qualifies? Anyone who was owned as a slave is owed reparations from the person who owned them as a slave.
No it should fall on the US government for allowing it. State and Federal level.
@@Yes-fe8ni Wrong. It was allowed because it was the law at the time. Now it isn't the law. You cannot penalize the current government for legal actions allowed by a previous government. That would be like charging a state that once haf capital punishment with murder for legal executions done in the past.
And not every person of color in the US is the descendant of a person who was a slave in the US.
@@cnault3244This is not about POC but American Descendants of 246+ years of US 🇺🇲 Chattel Slavery immediate & ongoing discriminatory practices - independent Black towns & areas of cities destroyed, land constantly stolen, terror, killings, Black Codes, Jim Crow, no GI Bill that Whites & ALL non-Black POC received, specific eminent domain for Black communities, crack, mass incarceration, police terror etc.... & still ongoing. The Native Americans that are receiving owed monies are not the same people from 400 years ago but descendants, YET nobody has a problem with it. The US has paid out reparations many times & people accepted it. They just have a problem with Black people descended from US 🇺🇲 slavery receiving it.
You clearly don't know American history nor understand what generational systemic racial discrimination, based on lineage to institutionalized slavery has created in this Country.
@@Angbwillinspireu You clearly don't understand that people alive today are not guilty of historical wrongs ( in this case, slavery) committed generations ago.
You clearly don't understand that a black person living in the US today may not be a descendant of slaves.
The argument is "assuming my ancestors were abducted from Africa and sold as slaves I am now owed money from the taxpayers, even the Asian taxpayers who had nothing to do with the slavery".
If reparation is mistakenly given , the solution would be to determine how much each descendant of slaves is entitled to, give them the money, and deport them back to Africa.
Harriot sounded like a fool playing devils advocate just for a check $$$.
All "Black" Americans are not from Africa. What about thecre-classified Aboriginals now referred to as "Black"?
As long as you can trace back one ancestor to slavery, you're an entitled victim.
The debt will be paid one way or another💪🏽🖤1
I am wondering if the 300 thousand Union soldiers who died in the Southern War Against The United States should be considered in the question of reparations. If so, why? If not, why not?
@@robbrown4621 NO, they were not in chattel slavery🤷🏽
@@40acresandatractor Did their deaths in fighting to end slavery have no significance to those who were in bondage? If so, why not?
@@robbrown4621 Ex slaveholders got $300 per enslaved Negro/AFRICAN/NATIVE/INDIGENOUS person. Japanese Internment Camp Survivors, Native Americans and Jewish ppl(Obama) all got REPARATIONS too, so AMERICAN DESCENDANTS OF CHATTEL SLAVERY, FBA, and FREEDMEN will be next🫶🏽🖤1
Stop discussin and get to cuttin🤑
$550K per ADOCS, NoTaxes for 5 generations, tuition voucher for any college/vocational institution you can test into, land and a tractor🚜 The debt will be paid one way or another🌬
Topic Causing separation amongst the diaspora over …. Money
What is dude in the striped suit talking about?! He shouldn’t have been part of this conversation if his family immigrated to the USA 🇺🇸. He gave me a headache 🤕
Would I get reparations too? My great grandmother was executed by the Russians in 1920 for the crime of having employed a few ladies to sit around the kitchen table with her and sew hats, which she then resold for a small profit. Could reparations become something that the United Nations pushes forward around the world? There must be at least a billion people who have ancestors who were brutalized...
@robbrown4621
Dunno depends on if your ancestors were criminals. But yo beg for reparations from the American government show why immigration will end and people like you deported
Sure, go for it. Call Russia.
If you can’t use race as a pretext then yes! If this was approved, and lineage/dna based then it would triple crime. Half wouldn’t qualify and they’d be robbing the ones who do qualify. Not to mention the felons in prison? Hood rats and thugs? Does criminal background effect eligibility? And where is the $ coming from? You can’t take someone’s land for the sins of the father right?
@@InMyHumbleOpinionByGNO A lot of the slaves from Africa were captured and sold by other Africans. Call Africa for reparation.
Your claim is against Russia. Stop using the terror Black American's suffered in the U.S. to give weight to your claims in a foreign country.
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No, the guy is completely wrong. You have to trace back to either a Slave or a Freedmen! You can not compare Black people here in America to Jamaicans or Nigerian you can't do that! When it comes to people who have White in them they have to have 30% African just like Native Americans when getting benefits with 30% Native American..
No, reparations because it will cause problems in America.FBA only. Other countries have their own reparations programs with their respective countries. This was allowed by the government, so America, the slave owners, were within the law.
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nope pay reparations it's owed it is what it is. My ancestors built this country they were beaten hanged killed raped. My grandfather grew up in jim crowe and also experienced apartheid. He served the military and didn't get the gi bill. America should have thought about this before they did what they did oh well.
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Jones stole that from Yvette Carnell, like she stole everything else from her
Nope.
Not your business on any level
@allenholliday676 how so?