@@luismoreno9633 Ahhhh... One of those eh?! Allow me to ask a question: if Bill Gates had some plot to reduce the world population, why would he go through all of the trouble of doing it through some vaccination, rather than just sitting back and letting viruses do their thing? Wouldn’t it make much more sense to just let the viruses run wild? It certainly wouldn’t cause every Tom, Dick, and Harry conspiracy theorist to get their panties in a bunch about a supposed plot to destroy the world. Folks who believe that nonsense need to use their brains a little more and bother to ask whether such an idea actually makes sense. The Bill Gates conspiracy theory is incredibly dumb.
I quite literally began rabies treatment yesterday. I was hit by what I'm sure was an owl on Monday night, as I was walking home through a forest near school. Unfortunately, I didn't see what hit me, and there was blood involved, and the truth is that I've seen a lot of bats in this forest, as well as owls. Anyway, the rabies treatment is an ordeal. It is not a single shot. So much stuff called "immunoglobulin" had to be injected into my scalp, then a shot in the arm, and two shots in the butt. Round 1 of 4!! I think less shots to come though.
no no, it's because of the possibility of bats. I didn't see the owl, I've just been swooped at before, and the impact really made me think it was an owl. It's possible it was a bat though, and that I mistook some of the shock at being hit for blunt force.
@Nada The only cases of people being cured of "full blown rabies" were placed into medically induced comas, then had their systems flooded with therapeutics until the virus was eradicated. The case mortality rate for untreated "full blown rabies" is 100%.
@Nada Your math checks out, but I said "untreated" is 100%. If someone's been "saved," they've been treated. Nobody's ever survived untreated rabies that we know of.
I remember watching the movie outbreak and then going down a rabbit hole researching the worst viruses. It was pretty moving, makes you appreciate we live pretty comfortable, clean, and advanced in America. Africa has some gnarly virus strains. I also live near fort detrick and they have a fridge that has the worst strains imaginable also terrifying, watch hot zone show/mini series to learn about that place.
That is the same thing Europeans said about Native Americans when they first came to America... It's not really true... it's a twisting of reality. What makes you rich is close family and friends, a loving partner, health and living outdoors and exercising. Money is just a tool to gain those things.
@@PersonsBrain That boils down to what you mean by poverty. One could argue that poverty is only about the amount of resources. Someone else could say that the concept is more complex than that. There is no real answer as it eventually comes down to semantics. A tribal warrior has less excess than a beggar, yet we more strongly tie the concept of poverty to the latter.
Doesn't need to be. Get rabies, go to bar, share drinks, kiss a few people, repeat everyday for a week. Chuck Palahniuk's "Rant" portrays this scenario.
Interestingly, this protozoa is somewhat considered an algae due to the presence of an apicoplast. This is a heavily reduced plastid that remains from a secondary endosymbiotic event between the protist and an unknown algae at some point in evolutionary time.
I got my left thumb nail bit off by a raccoon back in December 2014 when I tried to get it out of my trunk. Of course after I put it in my trunk after it had gotten run over. I was going to take it to a wildlife rehab center but halfway through when it started making crazy noises I knew I fucked up 😂. I tried to pick it up with a jacket over it. I picked it up by its neck scruff. Unfortunately that scruff was way longer than I expected and when I grabbed it he just turned around and latched onto my thumb. The only good news was that when I got bit they no longer required the multiple shots in the gut. But it was still over 10 shots total over a period of 2 months
I was in Liberia during the Ebola eradication effort and I seen first hand the results of what that virus does. There may be something out there that "equals" Ebola, but I can't imagine something that surpasses it.
Rabies mortality is ~96%* and is relatively hard to catch. *Ok, so... Mortality rate, is based on a lot of old data and data from unde(rde)veloped countries. Recently, however, in western countries, we've had a great deal of success treating full-onset rabies. If an otherwise healthy western patient shows up in an emergency room, with full-blown diagnosed-on-sight rabies, they probably have a ~60/40 shot at functional recovery and 30/70 at making a near complete recovery. Also... there are villages of people in South America found to have rabies antibodies and researchers don't know if A) they have a genetic immunity B) there might be a less deadly strain of rabies that is a common infection, or C) rabies might not be as deadly as thought; we only know about the acute, final stage cases and any suspect exposure is prophylactically treated. So, it maybe that rabies is much more common than thought and possibly very mild or asymptomatic in a large percentage of cases. Pathogen that self-beneficially alters behavior - syphilis, aka the 'love bug'; causes pathological hypersexuality. Ultimate(most beautiful) virus - herpes.
Also Rabies itself changes your behavior by making a person aggresive and bitey, have uncontrolled salivation which is high in Virus which doesn't get washed away because of Hydrophobia! What a combo for transmission?
There is a fairly interesting story behind the Rabies vaccine. In 1885 there was a boy who got tore up by a rabid dog . Pasteur was heartbroken by this and took up the challenge and ended up making the Rabies vaccine. What is interesting is that the little boy was so thankful to Pasteur for saving his life that he went and worked at the Pasteur institute. He ended up being the head grounds keeper where Pasteur was laid to rest. When the Nazis came they wanted to see the grave (and vandalize it) They found the groundskeeper and told him to unlock the gates. He told them to go to hell. They told him that if he did not listen they would shot him. That guy told them He did not care and was executed on the spot. I dont think I would have had that much courage but I definitely respect that have respect for that groundskeeper.
I love Pasteur, he a real one not like these modern day control freaks. Also, The CDC has airborne rabies, Feb 2020 acip meeting unfinished business. I bet he would have told them to leave it alone since it was first discovered in Texas bat caves until they manipulated it with unknown additions in thier labs.
The Resident Evil viral research is a really interesting subject. Most of it is pretty unrealistic, but when you think about it some of it is speculating about what we might be able to achieve in the future with viral technology. Enhancing humans by rewriting genetics with a viral vector.
Not a virus, but Toxoplasma gondi, is a well known parasite that makes mice lose their fear of cats. This parasite is also suspected to have similar effects in humans, in which case, cats are the vector for infecting humans.
I think there are some immunizations for wild animals near farms. I seem to remember a system to immunize bison that live near farms so they dont transmit natural viruses to cattle on the other side of the fences.
Does salivating and aggression when having rabies or coughing when having influenza count as altering human behavior in a way that helps spread the virus?
an official response from MD´s would be that this is your immune system fighting against the virus, and coughing it out. the cough is a reaction of your body to throw out the viral
I would say yes to both of those examples (rabies especially - I’m surprised they didn’t mention it), but I think these are more subtle than what they’re referring to. I’m assuming they’re talking about a more deliberate transmission (i.e. a virus that convinces you to deliberately cough ON someone or bite someone a la zombie viruses, or even having a sexually transmitted disease that makes you all of a sudden compelled to have sex with everyone - something where it literally guarantees another infection). Idk, that was just my thought on it
@@zachhunzeker1095 that already does happen= there’s a fungus that gets on the abdomen (@&&) of the Cicada & slowly devours the Cicada but not until it releases a chemical that is similar to meth & the Cicada lives long enough w a meth like high, flapping it’s wings imitating the female cicada ready to mate & boom, the fungus spreads like an std (sti)….or the parasite toxoplasmosis that infects cats after first infecting the mice & actually makes the mice attracted to cat urine & thus don’t fear cats (can’t help wonder if science isn’t already experimenting on humans given the quickly advanced & various kinds of sexuality these days?)…Big pharma knew they had hiv infected blood plasma in the 80’s & instead of destroying the tainted products they just shipped them overseas (Bayer)….and we shouldn’t forget how the 1977 flu epidemic happened as the flu from 1918 was eradicated by the late 50’s but somehow the frozen strain in the lab escaped infecting mostly 20 & under yr olds (the older generation was already immune)….Mental disease & illnesses are being linked to parasites (schizophrenia in particular)…Let’s never forget how close LYME, Connecticut is to Plum Island!…Right now, science has made every state & country its laboratory (Labs are no longer a necessity)
There are only a few cases of rabies per year in the U.S. according to the CDC. There were only 25 cases in the U.S. from 2009-2018. But yes, thousands per year worldwide.
I've been attacked by Skunks while walking in the Country before. I immunized them with Lead using my Pistol Twice. I've often seen Skunks in the City. City Skunks have never attacked me. Live and let live.
@@kanyewest6539 High speed Lead can be an effective treatment. I put a couple warning Shots in front of them and crossed over to the other side of the road. They kept coming at me. I assume they had Rabies. Turkey Buzzards ate their dead Bodies. TY Buzzards! Two seperate Incidents.of Skunk Attacks settled without Malice. Buzzards never give me trouble, they pick up after me.
@@bemusedone162 I spend much time in the Boonies. A pack of Dogs came after me one Evening as I walked back to my Car after a day of Turkey Hunting. I didn't get any Turkey that day. Two warning Shots for the Dog Pack. They kept coming at me. 12 Guage Shotgun high Base Turkey Loads can drop big Dogs at close range fast. I'm always Packing in the Boonies. I've seen UFOs in the Wild. Space Aliens know better than to mess with me.
Idea for a future episode -- comment on the controversy regarding "leaky" vaccines like the one for Marek's disease for chickens. Is it morally end ethically acceptable to use very leaky vaccines like the COVID vaccines seem to be?
10:40 The problem many people have with understanding evolution, is just this.. People think that this is the virus/organism/whatever, which is mindfully evolving this way, but thats not the case.. There most like has been many variations of this virus, which attracted the aphids, but didnt repulse them once they tasted it.. But then, a variation showed up, which both attracted them, AND repulsed them.. This would then go on to be the dominate species of the virus, due to the aphids being more likely to go to the next plant and eat from that one, which in turn spread the virus to the new plant much easier.. Over time, alot more plants would end up being infected with the attractive/repulsive kind, then the original kind, thereby leading to the new variation being the one which takes over the world.. This is how evolution works.. Without this explanation, most people would think "How can this just happen?? All these traits of attracting/repulsing is way to smart for nature to come up with by itself", yet, its just evolution taking place through natural selection.. The variation which was made by complete randomness (By a faulty replication of the virus) led to the virus being different in a way that benefitted the virus.. For every beneficial mutation, there are thousands if not millions of mutations which leads to nothing.
More important is that it makes animals anxious, feeling horrified and stressed, increasing aggressiveness, which increases chances of biting someone, thus spreading the virus.
I knew he was going to say rabies when I read the title of the video. It's not just the most terrifying, it's also the most fascinating because of its avoidance system. Everything about it screams death machine.
Mental viruses spread easily among humans. Such as fear and anxiety. Greed and competitive behavior. And what many theologians would call the seven deadly sins. “According to Roman Catholic theology, the seven deadly sins are the seven behaviours or feelings that inspire further sin. They are typically ordered as: pride, greed, lust, envy, gluttony, wrath, and sloth.” Our Love of money has gone so viral that no one even notices the harms it causes us. We just assume that is the way nature intended. Even though money is man made. Much like how the coronavirus is also likely man made. And asymptotically easily transmitted.
You forgot stupidity, the tendency to comment on subjects one is not schooled in, the assumtion that an opinion is worthy without merit et etc. That is the real mind virus crippeling what discourse there could have been.
There’s a fungus that infects Cicadas & even injects them w a chemical that acts like a meth high to keep the cicada alive long enuff to flap its wings like a female ready to mate & boom, the fungus spreads like an std/sti
@@kimlarso yes I have heard about this fungus. I was just recently at a mushroom festival and one of the speakers was studying this fungi in Pennsylvania US.
Rabies... Low R Factor (Fluid transfer with symptomatic host), near 100% fatality rate, I know of a single human survivor, American teen age female bit by an infected bat at a church service, Survived but suffered serious amount of fever/brain swelling, changing her somewhat (see case for details)
monsters inside me said people have been cured of rabies. Im not a doctor with the knowledge of how to find out if rabies is actually curable or not so how are we supposed to know whats correct. Also its very concerning two phd holders specializing in kind of the same area can reach the exact opposite conclusion.
11:45 toxoplasmosis victims are more likely to own a cat. Now is that becuz their cat gave them the virus or is the virus making them enjoy the company of cats. That's the question
One world health approach... Maybe we can stop the gain of function research in dodgy laboratories and prevent further world wide pandemics! Wouldn't that be great!
Vincent loves viruses. You have to understand that when you talk to him. It's often unclear when he says "that's no good" or "that's good" that he's speaking from the viruses' point of view.
Very interesting, it seems to me that virus may actually think? but not in the way you and I do, maybe nature contemplates its own Survival? Maybe we should rethink The evolutionary process?, maybe the randomness is really not that random? We call it natural selection but then what is doing the selecting?
@@keirfarnum6811 my rudimentary understanding of the subject is more than enough to understand that gain of function research clearly has more risk than it's worth. You can have the most stringent safety protocols in the world, with enough time and as long as humans are involved mistakes will surely be made. If this is a shit take please do argue
@@spritemultipack The quagmire is that many countries have been and are exploring gain of function research. It is one thing to be proactive it is entirely another to be completely ignorant. I can guarantee countries already have things that make COVID look extremely weak.
Here's a thought: The mother of all virus's is ( wait for it)..... sin....... 2 Chronicles 7:14 offers the ultimate antidote...From Cape Town South Africa God speed
@14:00 I disagree with this guys whole attitude: Virologists are INSANE! Really there needs to be an ethical limit placed on their work. And also genetic engineering... I think there is at least a 50% probability that COVID19 resulted from government funding of this attitude!! We need ethics. We need these researchers to stop playing God! IMHO
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@@floreisinger9279 We have never established ethical limits for this kind of research. Why not listen to this song? It was written by a former bio-engineer... Back in the 1970s. We have not gotten past the sachems stage in 30 years! Sad. IMHO ua-cam.com/video/tN93UJkiBao/v-deo.html
So you like fungus better then viruses. Whats your point? Which process or trait of fungus do you find more fascinating? As a virologist or geneticist virus is much more facinating and structurally much more diverse than all higher order organisms combined. Fungus are just like most other eukaruotes but very diverse and ecologically quite unuiqe. I presume that you meant something like that.
@@tomasandersson946 apparently you didnt look up cordyceps or you would understand why i said that. What they do to their host is mind blowing to say the least. You actually even write like you talk Lex. You need to have Paul Stamets (mycologist)on your podcast, he was one of Rogans most interesting interviews.
@@tomasandersson946 No, he’s talking about the fungus that infects Cicadas giving them a meth like high before they die causing them to manically flap their wings like the female Cicada ready to mate & boom, they pass on their spores like an std/sti (true story, look it up)
0:15 I totally get what you're saying, Lex, but what you describe here is impossible. He can definitely sit and watch the sunset with wine, but he cannot watch the sunset with a glass of wine at night, because it isn't night until the sun is set. Therefore, you've just explained a paradox! The simulation is going to have an error.
I remember a virologist said one of their nightmares was an airborne rabies virus.
Sounds like a B-movie plot.
Don’t give Bill Gates any ideas
@@luismoreno9633
"I am legend 2: electric boogaloo" starring Bill Gates as Will Smith
@@luismoreno9633
Ahhhh... One of those eh?! Allow me to ask a question: if Bill Gates had some plot to reduce the world population, why would he go through all of the trouble of doing it through some vaccination, rather than just sitting back and letting viruses do their thing? Wouldn’t it make much more sense to just let the viruses run wild? It certainly wouldn’t cause every Tom, Dick, and Harry conspiracy theorist to get their panties in a bunch about a supposed plot to destroy the world. Folks who believe that nonsense need to use their brains a little more and bother to ask whether such an idea actually makes sense. The Bill Gates conspiracy theory is incredibly dumb.
It’s probably being worked on in a lab somewhere
"Animals are living in extreme poverty."
-Lex Fridman, 2021
shoo... not my boston terrier. he spoiled af
We could give them Dogecoin.
Aha
UBI?
Big profound, mind blown, waow
As a child i played in Hendra’s patient 0’s backyard with my best friend. I lived in Hendra, Brisbane, Australia. Crazy huh!
@@jaimequintana1244 why would he lie about something so silly
I quite literally began rabies treatment yesterday. I was hit by what I'm sure was an owl on Monday night, as I was walking home through a forest near school. Unfortunately, I didn't see what hit me, and there was blood involved, and the truth is that I've seen a lot of bats in this forest, as well as owls. Anyway, the rabies treatment is an ordeal. It is not a single shot. So much stuff called "immunoglobulin" had to be injected into my scalp, then a shot in the arm, and two shots in the butt. Round 1 of 4!! I think less shots to come though.
Hate that he went through that, but owls don’t get infected with rabies, it a mammal virus.
@@cianwestmoreland8974 lol are owls reptiles or amphibians?
@@cianwestmoreland8974 I think it was due to the fact it could’ve been a bat
no no, it's because of the possibility of bats. I didn't see the owl, I've just been swooped at before, and the impact really made me think it was an owl. It's possible it was a bat though, and that I mistook some of the shock at being hit for blunt force.
@@wootcrisp Could have been an owl with a tiny bat in its mouth that took a swipe at you as it's final act whilst in the clutches of certain death.
1.5 playback speed recommended. Sounds completely normal.
To fast for my tiny brain. X1.25 just copes 🤣
How much cocaine/Adderall are you people on?
Thanks mate! Going to use this from now on
1.25 sounds better than 1.5
Lex still sounds slow
"oh rabies is great" - that guy
He’s not wrong though . Me and my friends were hashing out ideas of how it is almost zombie like control in animals .
Take things out of context much?
Rabies is one we don’t think of often. Super scary.
@Nada The only cases of people being cured of "full blown rabies" were placed into medically induced comas, then had their systems flooded with therapeutics until the virus was eradicated. The case mortality rate for untreated "full blown rabies" is 100%.
@Nada Your math checks out, but I said "untreated" is 100%. If someone's been "saved," they've been treated. Nobody's ever survived untreated rabies that we know of.
Also, The CDC has airborne rabies, Feb 2020 acip meeting unfinished business. The more you know. 😌
I remember watching the movie outbreak and then going down a rabbit hole researching the worst viruses. It was pretty moving, makes you appreciate we live pretty comfortable, clean, and advanced in America. Africa has some gnarly virus strains. I also live near fort detrick and they have a fridge that has the worst strains imaginable also terrifying, watch hot zone show/mini series to learn about that place.
4:40 "Animals are living in extreme poverty", that is one delightfully surprising thought. Ty.
They sure are after all these forest fires!
That is the same thing Europeans said about Native Americans when they first came to America... It's not really true... it's a twisting of reality.
What makes you rich is close family and friends, a loving partner, health and living outdoors and exercising. Money is just a tool to gain those things.
What I enjoyed, was his self correction, "not something, some living beings."
@@jimp2753 Quite. Evolution has engineered animals for nature, same as humans. Our modern lives are fairly unnatural.
@@PersonsBrain That boils down to what you mean by poverty. One could argue that poverty is only about the amount of resources. Someone else could say that the concept is more complex than that. There is no real answer as it eventually comes down to semantics.
A tribal warrior has less excess than a beggar, yet we more strongly tie the concept of poverty to the latter.
Imagine rabies that is airborne, rapidly mutating and has a very short incubation period
Dont tell Bill
China's probably got that one in the fridge
@@PWizz91 😂
Doesn't need to be. Get rabies, go to bar, share drinks, kiss a few people, repeat everyday for a week. Chuck Palahniuk's "Rant" portrays this scenario.
Cough-Rabies
Toxoplasma gondii totally changes human behavior. It's a protozoa, but still.
i wouldn't say "totally"
it TOTALLY changes mouse behavior
Interestingly, this protozoa is somewhat considered an algae due to the presence of an apicoplast. This is a heavily reduced plastid that remains from a secondary endosymbiotic event between the protist and an unknown algae at some point in evolutionary time.
@@dkdkproductions1192 whatever NERD 🤓
Always cook your cat well done and you’ll be fine, right?
I love the smell of cat pee in the morning.....
I got my left thumb nail bit off by a raccoon back in December 2014 when I tried to get it out of my trunk. Of course after I put it in my trunk after it had gotten run over. I was going to take it to a wildlife rehab center but halfway through when it started making crazy noises I knew I fucked up 😂. I tried to pick it up with a jacket over it. I picked it up by its neck scruff. Unfortunately that scruff was way longer than I expected and when I grabbed it he just turned around and latched onto my thumb. The only good news was that when I got bit they no longer required the multiple shots in the gut. But it was still over 10 shots total over a period of 2 months
I was in Liberia during the Ebola eradication effort and I seen first hand the results of what that virus does. There may be something out there that "equals" Ebola, but I can't imagine something that surpasses it.
He just said it, rabies.. 100% death rate if not vacinated
Rabies mortality is ~96%* and is relatively hard to catch.
*Ok, so... Mortality rate, is based on a lot of old data and data from unde(rde)veloped countries. Recently, however, in western countries, we've had a great deal of success treating full-onset rabies. If an otherwise healthy western patient shows up in an emergency room, with full-blown diagnosed-on-sight rabies, they probably have a ~60/40 shot at functional recovery and 30/70 at making a near complete recovery.
Also... there are villages of people in South America found to have rabies antibodies and researchers don't know if A) they have a genetic immunity B) there might be a less deadly strain of rabies that is a common infection, or C) rabies might not be as deadly as thought; we only know about the acute, final stage cases and any suspect exposure is prophylactically treated. So, it maybe that rabies is much more common than thought and possibly very mild or asymptomatic in a large percentage of cases.
Pathogen that self-beneficially alters behavior - syphilis, aka the 'love bug'; causes pathological hypersexuality.
Ultimate(most beautiful) virus - herpes.
I instantly knew this was going to be about rabies
You're very smart!
Thumbnail with a dogs mouth made it easy 😝
If virus makes you cough, and it helps to spread the virus, can you say that it changes your behaviour? I'd say yes to a certain extent.
Also Rabies itself changes your behavior by making a person aggresive and bitey, have uncontrolled salivation which is high in Virus which doesn't get washed away because of Hydrophobia! What a combo for transmission?
"can you say that it changes your behaviour"
There are even more clear examples. Eg. herpes viruses may cause hypersexuality.
There is a fairly interesting story behind the Rabies vaccine. In 1885 there was a boy who got tore up by a rabid dog . Pasteur was heartbroken by this and took up the challenge and ended up making the Rabies vaccine. What is interesting is that the little boy was so thankful to Pasteur for saving his life that he went and worked at the Pasteur institute. He ended up being the head grounds keeper where Pasteur was laid to rest. When the Nazis came they wanted to see the grave (and vandalize it) They found the groundskeeper and told him to unlock the gates. He told them to go to hell. They told him that if he did not listen they would shot him. That guy told them He did not care and was executed on the spot. I dont think I would have had that much courage but I definitely respect that have respect for that groundskeeper.
I love Pasteur, he a real one not like these modern day control freaks. Also, The CDC has airborne rabies, Feb 2020 acip meeting unfinished business. I bet he would have told them to leave it alone since it was first discovered in Texas bat caves until they manipulated it with unknown additions in thier labs.
10: 35 ish. " Reminds me of Twitter " .
Great comment. A poignant reminder of our times...
"Reminds me of Twitter" deserves some attention 🙌🙌🙌
The Resident Evil viral research is a really interesting subject. Most of it is pretty unrealistic, but when you think about it some of it is speculating about what we might be able to achieve in the future with viral technology. Enhancing humans by rewriting genetics with a viral vector.
read or listen to "BIOS - by daniel suarez"
great book and great author in general
"Our business is life itself"
We are already there as a species.
@@MonkeyKing3333 yeah evil quote :D
@@dimitrisolejak26 👍 I got an umbrella corp mask I'm thinking decals for the car next
Not a virus, but Toxoplasma gondi, is a well known parasite that makes mice lose their fear of cats. This parasite is also suspected to have similar effects in humans, in which case, cats are the vector for infecting humans.
Being studied as a cause for Schizophrenia
Book recommendation: Rabies(Besnilo) by Borislav Pekić
Lex asks the best questions
Year 2022: "Write that down, write that down!"
haha, we are done
@@manhoosnick Let's hope so, LOL!
I think there are some immunizations for wild animals near farms. I seem to remember a system to immunize bison that live near farms so they dont transmit natural viruses to cattle on the other side of the fences.
What a brilliant interesting discussion
Bad ideas are a much deadlier disease
You f*** with nature, she f***s back
Does salivating and aggression when having rabies or coughing when having influenza count as altering human behavior in a way that helps spread the virus?
I’ve always thought that it does. It’s odd to me that not many people talk about that.
an official response from MD´s would be that this is your immune system fighting against the virus, and coughing it out.
the cough is a reaction of your body to throw out the viral
@@izaccy Yeah it's a parasitic evolution branch attached to another evolution branch.
I would say yes to both of those examples (rabies especially - I’m surprised they didn’t mention it), but I think these are more subtle than what they’re referring to. I’m assuming they’re talking about a more deliberate transmission (i.e. a virus that convinces you to deliberately cough ON someone or bite someone a la zombie viruses, or even having a sexually transmitted disease that makes you all of a sudden compelled to have sex with everyone - something where it literally guarantees another infection). Idk, that was just my thought on it
@@zachhunzeker1095 that already does happen= there’s a fungus that gets on the abdomen (@&&) of the Cicada & slowly devours the Cicada but not until it releases a chemical that is similar to meth & the Cicada lives long enough w a meth like high, flapping it’s wings imitating the female cicada ready to mate & boom, the fungus spreads like an std (sti)….or the parasite toxoplasmosis that infects cats after first infecting the mice & actually makes the mice attracted to cat urine & thus don’t fear cats (can’t help wonder if science isn’t already experimenting on humans given the quickly advanced & various kinds of sexuality these days?)…Big pharma knew they had hiv infected blood plasma in the 80’s & instead of destroying the tainted products they just shipped them overseas (Bayer)….and we shouldn’t forget how the 1977 flu epidemic happened as the flu from 1918 was eradicated by the late 50’s but somehow the frozen strain in the lab escaped infecting mostly 20 & under yr olds (the older generation was already immune)….Mental disease & illnesses are being linked to parasites (schizophrenia in particular)…Let’s never forget how close LYME, Connecticut is to Plum Island!…Right now, science has made every state & country its laboratory (Labs are no longer a necessity)
Toxoplasmosis changes mammal behavior... including possibly in humans
Definitely related, but also not a virus.
There are only a few cases of rabies per year in the U.S. according to the CDC. There were only 25 cases in the U.S. from 2009-2018. But yes, thousands per year worldwide.
@@nunyabusiness8538 The CDC’s definitely corrupted by Big Rabies.
There's more cases, they are just treated at home with ivomectrin 🤣🤣
@@jmathews470 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Also, The CDC has airborne rabies, Feb 2020 acip meeting unfinished business. 😻😻😻😻😻😻😻😻 My favorite virus has been made perfect!
I've been attacked by Skunks while walking in the Country before. I immunized them with Lead using my Pistol Twice. I've often seen Skunks in the City. City Skunks have never attacked me. Live and let live.
the best of all vax
@@kanyewest6539 High speed Lead can be an effective treatment. I put a couple warning Shots in front of them and crossed over to the other side of the road. They kept coming at me. I assume they had Rabies. Turkey Buzzards ate their dead Bodies. TY Buzzards!
Two seperate Incidents.of Skunk Attacks settled without Malice.
Buzzards never give me trouble, they pick up after me.
Attack skunks ,high speed lead and rabies 😃, 🤙 love it.
@@bemusedone162 I spend much time in the Boonies. A pack of Dogs came after me one Evening as I walked back to my Car after a day of Turkey Hunting. I didn't get any Turkey that day. Two warning Shots for the Dog Pack. They kept coming at me. 12 Guage Shotgun high Base Turkey Loads can drop big Dogs at close range fast. I'm always Packing in the Boonies. I've seen UFOs in the Wild. Space Aliens know better than to mess with me.
You stay mellow MP and keep both eyes peeled when in the boonies, kudos from down Under dude!
Idea for a future episode -- comment on the controversy regarding "leaky" vaccines like the one for Marek's disease for chickens. Is it morally end ethically acceptable to use very leaky vaccines like the COVID vaccines seem to be?
Ask him why the military stopped forcing troops to get the anthrax vaccine?
The virus that scares me the most is the next one someone to playing with in a lab.
10:40 The problem many people have with understanding evolution, is just this..
People think that this is the virus/organism/whatever, which is mindfully evolving this way, but thats not the case.. There most like has been many variations of this virus, which attracted the aphids, but didnt repulse them once they tasted it.. But then, a variation showed up, which both attracted them, AND repulsed them.. This would then go on to be the dominate species of the virus, due to the aphids being more likely to go to the next plant and eat from that one, which in turn spread the virus to the new plant much easier.. Over time, alot more plants would end up being infected with the attractive/repulsive kind, then the original kind, thereby leading to the new variation being the one which takes over the world.. This is how evolution works.. Without this explanation, most people would think "How can this just happen?? All these traits of attracting/repulsing is way to smart for nature to come up with by itself", yet, its just evolution taking place through natural selection.. The variation which was made by complete randomness (By a faulty replication of the virus) led to the virus being different in a way that benefitted the virus.. For every beneficial mutation, there are thousands if not millions of mutations which leads to nothing.
Didn’t he just say rabies makes people hydrophobic? Therefore changing human activity?
More important is that it makes animals anxious, feeling horrified and stressed, increasing aggressiveness, which increases chances of biting someone, thus spreading the virus.
Mind controling/altering virus, makes you wonder what's in that vax but that debate opens up a whole can of horse worms
Lex with that mat rash
Viruses may not change our behavior but it does do things like cause runny noses and sneezing. These two alone will help the virus spread greatly.
I knew he was going to say rabies when I read the title of the video. It's not just the most terrifying, it's also the most fascinating because of its avoidance system. Everything about it screams death machine.
The CDC has airborne rabies, Feb 2020 acip meeting unfinished business. 😳
@@fatcat5817 what
Mental viruses spread easily among humans. Such as fear and anxiety. Greed and competitive behavior. And what many theologians would call the seven deadly sins. “According to Roman Catholic theology, the seven deadly sins are the seven behaviours or feelings that inspire further sin. They are typically ordered as: pride, greed, lust, envy, gluttony, wrath, and sloth.” Our Love of money has gone so viral that no one even notices the harms it causes us. We just assume that is the way nature intended. Even though money is man made. Much like how the coronavirus is also likely man made. And asymptotically easily transmitted.
You forgot stupidity, the tendency to comment on subjects one is not schooled in, the assumtion that an opinion is worthy without merit et etc.
That is the real mind virus crippeling what discourse there could have been.
And Epstein didn’t kill himself.
"All the bats will have vaccine passports"
Lex got jokes 😂
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that volatile organics loop with the aphid is probably reinforced by benefiting the plant in cross pollination
Perhaps toxoplasmosis, as something that alters the brain of a human and alters decision making?
Immunize farm raised crickets and release them near the caves known to contain bats over time.
Think they already have GMO mosquitos too
Toxoplasma gondii is a parasite that might influence human behavior,
Excellent questions from Lex
If you have rabies and you bite someone will they get sick?
Correct its in your saliva i think
A larger parasite or fungus might be able to interfere with human behavior.
Look up Robert Sapolsky talking to Joe Rogan about Toxoplasmosis
There’s a fungus that infects Cicadas & even injects them w a chemical that acts like a meth high to keep the cicada alive long enuff to flap its wings like a female ready to mate & boom, the fungus spreads like an std/sti
@@kimlarso yes I have heard about this fungus. I was just recently at a mushroom festival and one of the speakers was studying this fungi in Pennsylvania US.
Their voices were very calm and soothing
So is H.A.L.'s
Wow, and yikes! I can't wait to watch the full podcast!!
Air born rapid spreading rabies with instant effects…..
Zombie apocalypse
"reminds me of twitter" laughs then seems to be horrified of the reality of the truth in the statement
This guys gonna blow up
Rabies... Low R Factor (Fluid transfer with symptomatic host), near 100% fatality rate, I know of a single human survivor, American teen age female bit by an infected bat at a church service, Survived but suffered serious amount of fever/brain swelling, changing her somewhat (see case for details)
Very interesting man
monsters inside me said people have been cured of rabies. Im not a doctor with the knowledge of how to find out if rabies is actually curable or not so how are we supposed to know whats correct. Also its very concerning two phd holders specializing in kind of the same area can reach the exact opposite conclusion.
11:45 toxoplasmosis victims are more likely to own a cat. Now is that becuz their cat gave them the virus or is the virus making them enjoy the company of cats. That's the question
One world health approach... Maybe we can stop the gain of function research in dodgy laboratories and prevent further world wide pandemics! Wouldn't that be great!
I vote for the bacteriophage. Microscopic spaceships destroying microscopic worlds.
I watched an intro to Virology series by this professor, believe it was from Duke?
He is a professor at Columbia, and has a very popular undergraduate virology course there. Might've been a recording of that
He has entire courses online, no charge.
@@TheBoonPlatoon pretty sure that's the one, thanks!
Brilliant level headed talk 😘
Bats with vaccine passports 🤣
"Rabies is great" - Vincent Racaniello
Ok lets take that out of context and run with it!
Year 2031AD and rabies have become airborne....
"This doctor is part of the illuminati and is secretly destroying the world"
Vincent loves viruses. You have to understand that when you talk to him. It's often unclear when he says "that's no good" or "that's good" that he's speaking from the viruses' point of view.
This is unbelievable 10:00
Prions are more terrifying.
Not a virus, but terrifying none the less.
Surprised toxo wasn't mentioned when he asked about changing behavior.
No they are not. Much easier to avoid getting infected by.
What about toxoplasmosis?
Shhhhh, psychologically speaking big pharma would lose Billions= if the cat was out of the bag! (Pun intended)
we gotta teach wild animals how to wash their hands
Mask mandates would work better.
Very interesting, it seems to me that virus may actually think? but not in the way you and I do, maybe nature contemplates its own Survival? Maybe we should rethink The evolutionary process?, maybe the randomness is really not that random? We call it natural selection but then what is doing the selecting?
Does Ivermectin work for rabies?
Your question about virus affecting human behavior. That is exactly what rabies does. It makes the host angry and hostile in order to spread.
And travel further I think.
Sit late at night, sipping a glass of wine, looking over the sunset
It got an upgrade thanks to the cdc, february 2020 acip meeting "unfinished business". 😌 airborne is epic
"Maybe vaccinate the bats and give them vaccine passports"
Late at night... Looking over the sunset?
This dude needs sleep
"Let's let the curious scientists do what they want ".yeah grand ,unless it's gain of function research
ding ding ding ding.
Makes me feel altruistic....all I ever did was split a few atoms.
It’s amazing to me how so many people suddenly think they understand virology. 🤦🏻♂️
@@keirfarnum6811 my rudimentary understanding of the subject is more than enough to understand that gain of function research clearly has more risk than it's worth. You can have the most stringent safety protocols in the world, with enough time and as long as humans are involved mistakes will surely be made. If this is a shit take please do argue
@@spritemultipack The quagmire is that many countries have been and are exploring gain of function research. It is one thing to be proactive it is entirely another to be completely ignorant. I can guarantee countries already have things that make COVID look extremely weak.
@@rastiga9196 I suppose countries would see them the same way as nuclear weapons . We're fucked so
If rabies makes animals more prone to bite, wouldn't it do the same thing to humans?
What is it with fruit bats , so many viruses. No wonder they are in so many horror films, just not for the right reasons. They do look cute though.
I read you need to be vaccinated within 24hrs if a bite? Could anyone tell me if this is true or not?
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Here's a thought: The mother of all virus's is ( wait for it)..... sin....... 2 Chronicles 7:14 offers the ultimate antidote...From Cape Town South Africa God speed
Animal poverty ....that made me laugh .
Glad you have a global interest for animals
@14:00 I disagree with this guys whole attitude: Virologists are INSANE! Really there needs to be an ethical limit placed on their work. And also genetic engineering... I think there is at least a 50% probability that COVID19 resulted from government funding of this attitude!! We need ethics. We need these researchers to stop playing God! IMHO
I AM FROM SIERRA LEONE AND MY UNCLE LEONARD DIED A HORRIFIC HORRIFYING AWFUL DEATH FROM EBOLA ON CHRISTMAS DAY 2014!!!😪😭😪😭😪😭😪😭😪
WE NEVER EVER HAD EBOLA EVER BEFORE, AND THEN TULANE UNIVERSITY STARTS DOING BLOOD TESTS ON THE LOCALS BACK IN 2006 IN SIERRA LEONE 🇸🇱 AND THEN 10,000 PEOPLE DIE AWFUL DEATHS FROM A DEADLY VIRUS EPIDEMIC WE NEVER EVER HAD BEFORE!!!
Right, stop trying to understand anything! I want my 30years-life-expectancy back! (@Joe Morton: Irony OFF)
@@floreisinger9279 We have never established ethical limits for this kind of research. Why not listen to this song? It was written by a former bio-engineer... Back in the 1970s. We have not gotten past the sachems stage in 30 years! Sad. IMHO
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Hendra has a 60% kill rate in humans.
It's hard to get though.
You've gotta put the playback to. 25 guys 😂😂 sounds like the both of them are on the lemons that Leonardo and jonah took in the wolf of Wall Street 😂🤣
Going back over his symptoms, doctors today think Edgar Allen Poe may have died of rabies.
Cordyceps fungus i think is more interesting than any virus.
So you like fungus better then viruses. Whats your point?
Which process or trait of fungus do you find more fascinating?
As a virologist or geneticist virus is much more facinating and structurally much more diverse than all higher order organisms combined. Fungus are just like most other eukaruotes but very diverse and ecologically quite unuiqe.
I presume that you meant something like that.
@@tomasandersson946 apparently you didnt look up cordyceps or you would understand why i said that. What they do to their host is mind blowing to say the least. You actually even write like you talk Lex. You need to have Paul Stamets (mycologist)on your podcast, he was one of Rogans most interesting interviews.
@@tomasandersson946 No, he’s talking about the fungus that infects Cicadas giving them a meth like high before they die causing them to manically flap their wings like the female Cicada ready to mate & boom, they pass on their spores like an std/sti (true story, look it up)
Of course Australia had to be mentioned at some point 😭😭😭
what a wry question!
Lex looks unwell.
Not a virus but Toxoplasmosis from Cats makes humans take more risks.
Buster "Rant" Casey
I was bit by a bat 20 years ago and had to go through the rabies vaccination series. It wasn't fun.
Getting bat's consent 🤣
Someone or something with rabies is the closest thing we have to zombies
28 days later....
Vaccine passports for bats.
I like it.
Interesting
Plant viruses could end up creating better yields/quality/etc.
Have you ever heard that it's possible to genetically alter smallpox that would kill 100% of all humans on earth?
0:15 I totally get what you're saying, Lex, but what you describe here is impossible. He can definitely sit and watch the sunset with wine, but he cannot watch the sunset with a glass of wine at night, because it isn't night until the sun is set. Therefore, you've just explained a paradox! The simulation is going to have an error.