Civil War . . New Mexico?! The Battle of Valverde

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  • Опубліковано 14 жов 2024
  • Join Garry Adelman for our first ever Civil War trip to New Mexico! We start at Fort Craig Historic Site before moving onto private property for an exclusive anniversary look at the Battle of Valverde, fought on February 20-21, 1862.
    For all the facts on the Battle of Valverde visit the Trust's website: www.battlefiel....
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    The American Battlefield Trust preserves America’s hallowed battlegrounds and educates the public about what happened there and why it matters. We permanently protect these battlefields for future generations as a lasting and tangible memorial to the brave soldiers who fought in the American Revolution, the War of 1812, and the Civil War.

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  • @ComplexityComplex
    @ComplexityComplex 7 місяців тому +39

    I love that they took a break for lunch! It's hard to wage war on an empty stomach!

    • @citizenbobx
      @citizenbobx 7 місяців тому +9

      There was a Taco Wagon that day.

    • @LicardoDeBousee
      @LicardoDeBousee 7 місяців тому +2

      “An army marches on its stomach” -Napoleon

  • @tomdynia9951
    @tomdynia9951 7 місяців тому +10

    Great video, I finally get to see Valverde. I lived a number of years in El Paso and became fascinated by the campaign and have collected all the books I could find on the subject. I'd love to see Glorietta Pass as well.
    There used to be a cannon or two from the Valverde Battery in El Paso. Allegedly those guns saw service in another civil war, the Mexican Revolution starting in 1910 during Pancho Villa's capture of Ciudad Juarez.

    • @chicomaki6103
      @chicomaki6103 15 днів тому

      Was just there 2 days ago. Make sure you get to the visitor center at Pecos on Hwy 63 and the NPS building just a half mile south that was the former Kozlowski's Ranch at the time of the battle. It's instrumental in understanding what happened during the Gloriette Pass Battle.

  • @JoshPiland
    @JoshPiland 7 місяців тому +3

    I’m ashamed I didn’t know about this campaign. Thank you once again for educating me!

  • @robertbarnes801
    @robertbarnes801 7 місяців тому +6

    Gary, great Video. It was Captain Theodore Dodds Independent Company of Colorados were the Company that fired the three volleys that halted the Texan Lancer charge.

    • @sgtstedanko7186
      @sgtstedanko7186 6 місяців тому

      In the Three Cornered War the diary of Alonzo Ickis gives a very brutal account of the Lancer charge and the furious volley that stopped it.
      Ickis said that when they unleashed that storm of lead, over the deafening roar of their own muskets, they could hear the terrifying splatter of bullets hitting their marks, followed by the high pitched screams of pain coming from the horses and men. It turned every man white when the smoke cleared and they saw the destruction of that volley.
      Valverde nearly saw the end of the campaign for the Confederates as they lost most of their horses in that battle, and many of their mounted riflemen then became infantry from that point forward.

  • @RobertCulp-o7u
    @RobertCulp-o7u 7 місяців тому +10

    There are old breastworks made out of lava rocks on top of the mesa. The view from the mesa lets you overlook the entire area. Just so happens that I will be there next weekend. Thanks for doing a show on the battle.

    • @torceridaho
      @torceridaho 7 місяців тому +1

      maybe you good shoot a video. this guy needs help. he talks 90 mph and does a poor job of explaining directions and locations. unreal.

    • @theunionforever6265
      @theunionforever6265 6 місяців тому

      @@torceridahodon't you dare diss my boy Garry Adelman

  • @everettrhay4855
    @everettrhay4855 7 місяців тому +5

    There was a Civil War skirmish at Picatcho Peak AZ 30 or so miles north of Tucson. Western most combat action by the belligerents. The only reason I know this, I was stuck at the rest stop at 1:00 am and read the story on the information board.
    There were a lot more actions in the west than most people realize. Thanks for the breakdown of the New Mexico action.

  • @MadrasArsenal
    @MadrasArsenal 7 місяців тому +8

    Whats amazing is that you guys were able to go out there and bring us a site of a battle that happened so far out west. It seems like most of the battles that happened West of the Mississippi are so often forgotten about. Thanks for this!

  • @aydincurtis2463
    @aydincurtis2463 7 місяців тому +12

    Fascinating Battle, maybe one day there will be a battlefield park.

  • @timothycampbell9762
    @timothycampbell9762 7 місяців тому +21

    Hell froze over, a battle west of the Mississippi River got attention - Should do Pea Ridge, Wilson's Creek, or Mine Creek

    • @TaskForce_Raccoon
      @TaskForce_Raccoon 7 місяців тому +5

      So true. I've been to Wilson's Creek and its incredible, a large scale battle that had major implications for both sides and their strategies in the war. The battlefield is in pristine condition, and it has so many characteristics and features, that make it exciting and vivid. I will say it had a ton of revisionist history. Their study guide claimed that the North fleeing back to Jefferson City so fast that they left their dead General (Lyon) on the field was somehow a Northern victory.

    • @porcine83
      @porcine83 4 місяці тому

      @@TaskForce_Raccoon Pea Ridge is fantastic also. Gorgeous park that tells the story well.

    • @c.w.johnsonjr6374
      @c.w.johnsonjr6374 28 днів тому

      Do Mansfield, Pleasant Hill, Brasher City, Irish Bend and Fort Butler.

  • @RedoubtProductions1754
    @RedoubtProductions1754 7 місяців тому +7

    Valverde, a name I've heard but it has often felt as more myth then fact due to scarcity of recent documentation on the site...until now! This great!

  • @lonl123
    @lonl123 7 місяців тому +2

    Visited the site a couple of years ago...the Battlefield site is off limits, but you can go through Fort Craig a bit. The Hot new Mexico sun over the century has baked and melted a lot of the Adobe used in construction into Lumps of what used to be buildings...but for all that, Kit Carson was there...and for a brief moment, this isolated place in the middle of nowhere was a very important place, if only temporarily. Carson is one of my heroes and have been reading about his life for the last decade or so.

  • @wondersteresakocsis4199
    @wondersteresakocsis4199 19 днів тому

    My Great Great Grandfather was Brevet Brigadier General Thomas Duncan who was the Duncan who fought at Val Verde. He was wounded and handed a piece of his skull but continued fighting. He went on to to eventually hold a desk job in DC because of the injury. He is buried in Arlington.. He was married and had 6 children. My grandmother was his granddaughter.. She told me to never forget him. Thank you for your video.

  • @DeclanConnor-y1j
    @DeclanConnor-y1j 7 місяців тому +6

    I was hoping you guys would do a video about the New Mexico Campaign. Hopefully there's more about this soon! I've been only to Glorieta pass. Wonderful place.

  • @jankovarik9714
    @jankovarik9714 7 місяців тому +2

    It's great when we send you off on an adventure, to create these videos for us! There is Civil War history everywhere! Thanks for so brilliantly highlighting these sites for us!

  • @LicardoDeBousee
    @LicardoDeBousee 7 місяців тому +2

    This reminds me somewhat of the old western “Major Dundee” with the legendary Charlton Heston playing the part of a union officer in charge of a remote western outpost who entails the help of of not only the union soldiers under his command, but confederate POW’s and imprisoned criminals to track down Apache Indians in Mexico responsible for the massacre of US troops along the southwestern frontier. They fight Apache’s, Juaristas and French colonial troops and understand in the end they have much more in common than they do apart.
    It’s a great older film I never knew existed until recently when I first watched it.
    Great to see Civil War battles in the far stretches of the southwestern frontier finally being brought to light!

  • @stevearchtoe7039
    @stevearchtoe7039 7 місяців тому +2

    Thanks Garry and team. Much appreciated the littler stuff that’s often ignored.

  • @DonaldKDever
    @DonaldKDever 7 місяців тому +1

    Good job, Gary!

  • @hackerx9477
    @hackerx9477 7 місяців тому +3

    You finally made a video about this forgotten battle. I did a lot of research on the New Mexico campaign after watching "The Good, The Bad And The Ugly." As always, great work !

  • @JMCAragorn
    @JMCAragorn 7 місяців тому +2

    I hope you guys brought your chapstick! 😰It's dry out here! I loved seeing NM. Thank you. ❤️💛

  • @dadsongs
    @dadsongs 7 місяців тому +2

    Amazing and almost surreal experience of learning about a whole 'nother aspect of the Civil War -- one that needs to be expanded upon for better understanding of students and Civil War "enthusiasts" alike. HOWEVER, bear with me: I know we're just barely closing out February, Gary. But, don't do forget to come back East to help us through The Wilderness and beyond. Virginia needs you! 😀 Thanks again.

  • @brianschroeder7331
    @brianschroeder7331 7 місяців тому +10

    Gary you bring the best energy to this cause! Not just here, but for your organization as a whole. Thank you, Chris, and all the others for inspiring and leading us to help save, preserve, and educate the masses. Continue on Sir!!!

    • @TermiteUSA
      @TermiteUSA 7 місяців тому +2

      I think Gary deserves a lead role in a major motion picture. This is presented better than anything Hollywood can even get close to.

  • @martinp1544
    @martinp1544 7 місяців тому +1

    Thanks!

  • @jackhays1194
    @jackhays1194 7 місяців тому +1

    Another great job. Thank you

  • @JL-fx2cd
    @JL-fx2cd 7 місяців тому +3

    I enjoy these videos. The New Mexico battle is very interesting.

  • @Winaska
    @Winaska 6 місяців тому +1

    I only knew about Glorieta Pass, and none of the details until i picked up "Blood and Thunder" by Hampton Sides this past September. The full spectrum of civil war in new mexico is fascinating

  • @bigsarge2085
    @bigsarge2085 7 місяців тому +4

    Incredible, thanks, guys!

  • @johnspartan7103
    @johnspartan7103 7 місяців тому +3

    You are amazing! It’s true life flies faster than eyes could ever see. Thank you American Battlefield.

  • @NDB469
    @NDB469 7 місяців тому +2

    Very cool, a pretty much forgotten part of the war. Thanks for covering this

  • @TermiteUSA
    @TermiteUSA 7 місяців тому +3

    Its so cool to see a battle or historical site at the time of year or the exact date that something happened.
    Thanks ABT.

  • @joe5st817
    @joe5st817 7 місяців тому +4

    400k is close! Love the history and knowledge that ABT passes on, keep up the good work “Know your history or it will repeat itself “

  • @corycardwell
    @corycardwell 7 місяців тому +2

    Thank you so much Gary. I've visited Glorieta Pass but never been able to visit Valverde. Cool to see.

  • @dimitristoupakisAT
    @dimitristoupakisAT 7 місяців тому +2

    Finally a new video with a full dose of GA again. His enthusiasm and energy is second to none, always enjoy watching. Great job!

  • @tblack7191
    @tblack7191 7 місяців тому +4

    Two minor skirmishes were fought between the Apache and Confederates at the Dragoon Springs Stagecoach Stop (AZ) in May 1862. Very interesting to see the six confederate graves in the middle of the Arizona high desert.

  • @bluzfiddler1
    @bluzfiddler1 2 місяці тому

    My 2nd Great Grandfather was in the Union Mounted Infantry in New Mexico. He fought in both Valverde and Glorietta. Thank you for making this video it really ties together a lot of the research I did on him years ago.

  • @lanced3256
    @lanced3256 7 місяців тому +1

    Amazing post. Thank you so much for bringing this to us
    best wishes

  • @mikeburch2998
    @mikeburch2998 7 місяців тому +1

    New Mexico is my very favorite state.

  • @antz6130
    @antz6130 2 місяці тому

    Thank you sir
    Great story telling
    Love your passion in our nation’s history
    God bless guide and protect you

  • @TheHistoryUnderground
    @TheHistoryUnderground 7 місяців тому

    Outstanding. I literally knew nothing about this battle.

  • @TorinFinney
    @TorinFinney 7 місяців тому +5

    Great commentary, so happy the ABT is focusing on this critical campaign. Never made it to Valverde myself, but I visited the Glorieta battlefield in 2002. Garry, you're definitely rocking the Bohemian Brigade look and persona, would have enjoyed having you with us on the field at 140th Gettysburg in 2003 and 140th Franklin in 2004.

  • @earlyriser8998
    @earlyriser8998 7 місяців тому +1

    I never knew and this was amazing

  • @Chiller11
    @Chiller11 7 місяців тому +1

    Love the hat and beard. Looking more Civil War authentic.

  • @ryan.coogler
    @ryan.coogler 7 місяців тому +4

    And you? Have you ever heard
    of someone named Canby? No?
    Well, you see,
    he's a Yankee colonel
    who decided to
    tear us to pieces.
    I know they don't care for the TGTBTU, but it's my favorite movie.

  • @ubomninomen7765
    @ubomninomen7765 7 місяців тому +1

    Love it, man! Do something about Nevada wrt civil war next!!! Not a crucial factor militarily, but was reminded in recent years of its nickname, battleborn - huge political implications then and now.

    • @markminter3960
      @markminter3960 7 місяців тому

      Thanks idk this information, I’m going to look into it.

  • @thomasvanetten1984
    @thomasvanetten1984 7 місяців тому +1

    Wonderful video!! Thank you for doing this one as I am unlikely to get a chance to visit. Plus, good to see ABT covering the western theater of the CW.

  • @kenttucson2830
    @kenttucson2830 7 місяців тому +2

    Finally, a trust comes to the southwest. Not sure what took you so long now come to Arizona for the battle of Picacho Peak.

  • @wildcolonialman
    @wildcolonialman 7 місяців тому +1

    Fabulous effort.

  • @Pluto2363
    @Pluto2363 7 місяців тому

    Stayed in a VRBO that had a bridge (what was left of it) that was used during battle of Glorieta Pass on the property. Was really cool.

  • @kermitcook8498
    @kermitcook8498 7 місяців тому

    Gary, my favorite part of the New Mexico campaign was the story of the hard-headed lovable exploding mules. I think it's a lot like the miners getting pushed off cliffs by their pack animals. Fort Union is a nice visit. Hope you got to do a little Billy the kid stuff on your trip. In out west miles, it's right there. In back east miles, a combination of Grant's Vicksburg campaign plus Sherman's March and add JEB Stewart's ride for Gettysburg. But like I said it's just a matter of perspective. Thanks for this road trip, Gary.

  • @billsmart2532
    @billsmart2532 7 місяців тому +3

    Thanks! Great story long neglected. BTW, where were Blonde and Tuco captured?

  • @garys.4789
    @garys.4789 18 годин тому

    I must try to get there someday

  • @ricardoaguirre6126
    @ricardoaguirre6126 7 місяців тому +1

    Never been there but i did go fishing a couple of times at the nearby elephant butte lake when i was a kid.

  • @TheTacticalHillbilly
    @TheTacticalHillbilly 7 місяців тому +1

    You need to do a video on the Reynolds Gang. They were a Confederate group up here in the Rockies. They used to operate in my area and supposedly buried some gold close by.

  • @RealityOrganized
    @RealityOrganized 7 місяців тому +1

    Garry's right. When a river moves location over the years, it will mess with one's understanding of a battle.

  • @bigsarge2085
    @bigsarge2085 7 місяців тому +2

    👍👍

  • @44punk
    @44punk 2 місяці тому

    Great video!

  • @annmcgehee1728
    @annmcgehee1728 7 місяців тому

    Awesome video!! Thanks so much!!

  • @russelllane7551
    @russelllane7551 7 місяців тому +3

    I would like to see American battlefield trust Come a little bit more west and cover the very small civil war battle at picacho peak Just outside tucson

    • @kenttucson2830
      @kenttucson2830 7 місяців тому +2

      Agreed. As a Tucsonan, I’ve been hoping that they might come to Picacho Peak. Very happy. They finally made it to New Mexico.

  • @pureblood8427
    @pureblood8427 7 місяців тому +1

    Glorieta Pass is a nice locaton too.

  • @jankovarik9714
    @jankovarik9714 7 місяців тому

    Great work guys!

  • @therabbitify
    @therabbitify 7 місяців тому

    Warhawk has a great video on this! Glad I can say Garry is on the other side of the Mississippi, leaves all the Gettysburg for ME

  • @jorgemartinpaez4376
    @jorgemartinpaez4376 7 місяців тому

    Hope to see the battlefield restored the Rio grande Rio bravo has changed course interesting

  • @ubomninomen7765
    @ubomninomen7765 7 місяців тому

    "Quaker cannon!" I din't know there was such a thing, and had to look it up. That would be a great update for the Quaker Oats logo. I'll contact PepsiCo right away with some of my conceptual designs!

  • @jorgemartinpaez4376
    @jorgemartinpaez4376 7 місяців тому +1

    Valverde was fought after CSA Gen inventor of the Sibley tent and former commander in the Terr has returned w 2500, the union troops later retreat to ft Union, then Sibley is on the Rio grande river Rio bravo near soccorro NM, col Canby prepares the CSA troops are cold suffering alot of ailments, Sibley a drunk and strategist, ft Union... Yes nps.. fr Craig looks Cool an adventure I want to learn about by walking and have seen pics and hope more art is made depict the events of the NM campaign Feb, 21 ,1862...

  • @gobblox38
    @gobblox38 7 місяців тому +1

    Where did he get that jacket? I want one. It looks like it would work well various weather conditions.

  • @chicomaki6103
    @chicomaki6103 15 днів тому

    Valverde - The Bloodiest Battle nobody has heard of.

  • @themansplainer7726
    @themansplainer7726 7 місяців тому +5

    Isn't that the battle where Clint Eastwood and Tuco blew up the bridge at?

    • @JohnLight1
      @JohnLight1 7 місяців тому

      Yes, except there was never a bridge there.

    • @ricardoaguirre6126
      @ricardoaguirre6126 7 місяців тому +1

      That battle was most likely fictional. When they encounter Bill Carson it was when the confederates were retreating after Glorieta pass.

  • @72Stiles
    @72Stiles 3 місяці тому

    "Sibley's men are retreating up there. - Canby's men are coming here. - But no one will set foot in this hell, except you and me..."

  • @Suppercamper
    @Suppercamper 7 місяців тому +4

    You guys heading to Picacho?

  • @skproductions7949
    @skproductions7949 7 місяців тому +1

    It would be nice if Turner would donate that area to the ABT or BLM so that it's easily accessible. I've been to Ft. Craig but getting to where you are standing is pretty much impossible.

  • @allamericannative
    @allamericannative 7 місяців тому +1

    💙🇺🇲

  • @jamesmaclennan4525
    @jamesmaclennan4525 7 місяців тому +1

    I think my favourite unit in this battle is the "Company of Santa Fe Gamblers" serving with the Confederates.

  • @Hi-lb8cq
    @Hi-lb8cq 7 місяців тому +1

    Reminds me of fort union

  • @davidsachs4883
    @davidsachs4883 7 місяців тому

    Hope the whole campaign gets covered
    I have a suggestion for a video. Explaining seniority among generals. Seniority was much prized by colonels in the war seniority among generals is more difficult to understand . If a major and a colonel are both brevet brigadier generals is seniority by their permanent rank or brevet rank? And between volunteer brigadiers vs regular. If someone would make and explain a list top to bottom, or bottom to top that would be helpful.

  • @williamdaniel4081
    @williamdaniel4081 7 місяців тому

    Dodd's 2nd Clolorado volunteers from Fort Garland were the one who stop the lancer charge.

  • @marvwatkins7029
    @marvwatkins7029 7 місяців тому

    But Gary: how can we visit if it's closed off, private property? Ted should give (or knowing him, more likely sell) it to Interior, NPS, or. even ABT.

  • @WWEGamesClub-t8v
    @WWEGamesClub-t8v 7 місяців тому

    ❤❤❤❤❤❤

  • @citizenbobx
    @citizenbobx 7 місяців тому +1

    Valverde 162!
    Charge of the Lancers!

  • @MJBilbo
    @MJBilbo 7 місяців тому

    A sizeable part of the battle and where McRae's Battery was located is actually public land managed by the Bureau of Reclamation and accessible, and that could've been mentioned. There's no fences between the Turner land and federal land, and he gave the wrong impression that it's all private land, which is not cool whatsoever.

  • @NMMD1531
    @NMMD1531 7 місяців тому +1

    Please consider the Confederate battle with that Apaches at Pinos Altos New Mexico

  • @jorgemartinpaez4376
    @jorgemartinpaez4376 7 місяців тому

    Pino selfie Wingate interesting

  • @Hi-lb8cq
    @Hi-lb8cq 7 місяців тому

    So when are they going to start doing a civil war reenactment there?!?!...they dont even do the anniversary of glorieta's pass reenactment anymore

  • @scottdunkirk8198
    @scottdunkirk8198 7 місяців тому

    didn’t some of the Texans fill their canteens with whiskey and died of thirst on their retreat from Glorietta pass?

  • @jamesorth6460
    @jamesorth6460 7 місяців тому

    Canby sort of looks like Al Bundy

  • @c.w.johnsonjr6374
    @c.w.johnsonjr6374 28 днів тому

    Where's Tuco and Blondie?

  • @jorgemartinpaez4376
    @jorgemartinpaez4376 7 місяців тому

    Took a break for lunch interesante union troops NM Terr troops , Lt Roberts, and Capt Rafael Chacon and Capt Miguel Chavez...so interesting. Kit Carson Duncan s regular, NM vol INF ,militia McRae interesting, union troops Sheldon under him is Chacon, breaks for lunch after this first attack

  • @torceridaho
    @torceridaho 7 місяців тому

    why in the world this guy doesn't use "north, south, east, west" but says "this direction" is really incomprehensible...like the east side of the Rio Grande, or the west side of the Rio Grande. really bizarre....

  • @talleman1
    @talleman1 Місяць тому

    Needs some restoration.

  • @Hi-lb8cq
    @Hi-lb8cq 7 місяців тому +1

    Private property is one reason no one visits that area

  • @greenwave819
    @greenwave819 7 місяців тому

    what was going on here???

  • @kevinhixson3157
    @kevinhixson3157 7 місяців тому

    Garry I wish that were just a little bit more passionate about the Civil War. 😅

  • @torceridaho
    @torceridaho 7 місяців тому

    why in the world this guy doesn't use "north, south, east, west" but says "this direction" is really incomprehensible...like the east side of the Rio Grande, or the west side of the Rio Grande. really bizarre. ok, we get it, you're excited but now do your job competently....you have an audience.