To be honest he probably is mad, yes at the end he isn't but during the fight he was, that why his attacks were stronger, that's why he didn't plan to fight you then, that's why he threw a dinner table at you, and that's why his blasters were more powerful but broke once used.
Seems like in this fight he goes through the stages of grief starting at anger, since be probably went through denial before fighting us lol. You can see him bargaining by resolving to kill us followed by depression towards the end and finally acceptance when we hit him
I feel that this one needs to be a bit over powered because of his rage in this version because of the events prior to this encounter. In the others he wasn't going with rage but more of reason so he was careful with his attacks in both knowing what he has to do, but in this one he didn't think he would get this upset and confused so I think this one is only slightly over powered but it makes sense.
@@nullmiracles8538 But Sans is never angry per say? He hates you, but he knows deep down being mad won’t stop the fact that it’s not a fair fight at all. And unfortunately for him, he’s not the powerful one in the situation.
"What if we monsters slaughtered your entire family but spared the whole village, and then left?" Seems like someone forgot _Asgore's plan to destroy humanity_
The table attacks though. It looks like he's using telekinesis to move the tables or something, but it's hilarious to just imagine sans throwing a whole table at frisk
* i wasn't actually training. * i just hooked up my magic to a calculator and multiplied it to deal more damage. * heh, multiplying calculators to mulitply my damage is a fun time.
I like how very different this fight is compared to the genocide run. There Sans’ attacks seem more calculated and precise in some points, while here it feels more like a blind rage and reckless mainly when he starts throwing objects.
It’s because the neutral route is kinda worse, because in genocide everyone is gone, nobody to worry or nobody to see that they don’t care about paps but in neutral. There’s plenty people and they just don’t care and his friends are worried about him, seeing that makes him enraged
Sans Shapiro: " let's say, hypothetically, we were pals. Best pals, even, for the sake of argument. Ok, now let's take a look at the facts. In this hypothetical situation, if we were pals, then why, pray tell, why would you kill my brother?"
The person who made this is really good at knowing a character and that only a specific few natural runs would get sans mad, sans isn't one to let his emotions out but if you get on his bones in the right way you can get him to start to do things out of anger which would cause him to attack in a natural run, if you only killed his brother he would know too well you trying to get him mad so he won't fight you, but he can understand why you killed a few monsters in the ruins only papyrus in snowdin and a few in water fall. He would only know if he was the player and not in the position of only seeing his timeline and no other senses ones, remember a judge is mentally strong but not indestructible.
@@sptflcrw8583 he does though. he may not show it, but in the genocide run he is definitely mad at you. and killing his brother is something he most definitely cares about.
@@ninnikins4768 maybe I should rephrase. He does get mad, it’s just that he doesn’t do anything about it because he knows it’s pointless. There’s a reason he only ever fights you in the Genocide route
In the genocide run, he's lost everyone. He doesn't even have anyone to grieve with. It's theorized he even wauted until that point to use his KR abilities so it could dish out maximum pain. You get himmt by one clump of attacks, and your hp tanks. 1 damage doesn't matter there. You get the full surprise of how powerful Sans actually is. In the neutral run, he hasn't lost everyone. Sometimes, he doesn't lose anyone at all. At least he has someone though. You're not as powerful, having slain less, so the KR won't work as well as it potentially could. Sans isn't on his last legs of sanity, having seen everyone die. You merely get a glimpse of what Sans can do, and it still doesn't do his capabilities justice. To put it frankly, I can completely understand and agree with Toby keeping Sans out of combat until the end of the genocide route, but this is still an interesting take on what could have been.
Well yes but there are thousand of neutral routes possible and in this one he had hope that his brother would be spared because of frisk sparing everyone in snowdin,just to see his brother die,if I were him I would be more than mad
What wouldve been cool, is when you eat an item sans would have a different dialouge, like the snowman piece, “you know, that snowman just wanted to see the world. See how non boring this world can be, but you had to eat him just for your health.
Holy shit i just realized why sans has 10atk. Thats his original stats, but because on the genocide run we are so strong, his attacks feels way weak, like it deals 1 damage.
though frisks def + current armor in this game.. the damage wouldnt really make sennse of why its that high. Frisks def at that level would be 13 excluding armor, and with cowboy hat giving 12. the players def wouldve been 25. This would make sans damage to 1-2 due to defense of the player compared to sans 10 atk, madjick has 29 atk, but does 7 dmg per hit to the player with 25 defense.
@@nullmiracles8538 Yeah, but remember. Defense reduces that damage up to a minimum of 1 damage per hit taken. With san's ATK being 10. compared to Frisk's defense being 25. That would mean sans would be doing a total of 1 dmg per hit.
@@bluphenyx They do. The ATK of your opponents refers to how much DAMAGE per HIT your opponent can do to you; the player. and the opponents DEF refers to how much DAMAGE can be REDUCED per hit taken. And the minimum damage allowed per hit is 1. Even with sans 10 ATK, they will do a minimum of 1 damage per hit against someone with 25 DEF. However, sans DEF will mean they will take less damage. and thats a given if sans doesn't have 1 hp. Stats in UT has meaning canonly. HP means how much health points you can lose before dying. ATK is how much power per hit you can do. and DEF is how much damage gets reduced. So they still have meaning regardless. The only way sans to get 'stronger' is just to have more harder to dodge attacks, but thats more of strats and tactics than stats unless he gets more than 10 ATK, 10 defense and 1 hp.
The idea that sans is using everything at this room to attack frisk makes me imagine sans Catching ketchups from the shop while throw the tables and candles on frisk
Sans: "How dare you hurt innocent monsters!" Also Sans: *killed at least one of the fallen children and admitted he would've killed Frisk without provocation*
@@haousupreme206 It's heavily implied that Sans has killed at least one of the other fallen children. Undyne has never fought a human before, not every human made it to Asgore and Sans outright says he would have killed you if Toriel hadn't made him promise not to.
@@firelordsozin8308 I mean I think sans just says that to us to act cool like that's his personality, he wouldn't have actually done it. But I'm not sure about how it's implied and all, it's been a while.
@@haousupreme206 I don't know. He sounded pretty serious, especially considering he did that eyeless socket thing he only ever does when he expresses hatred. And it seems like a pretty elaborate story to tell just to scare a literal child. Add to that the fact that the possessions of the children are scattered all over the Underground (with Sans being the only monster known to travel between them), Asgore not having killed all the children (otherwise their remains wouldn't be scattered everywhere) and Undyne not having fought a human before leaves us with few monsters who could be candidates for human extermination.
@@firelordsozin8308 oh shit is this the part where he says "you'd be dead where you stand" ahh dang yeah that's possible then I just always got the "goody-two shoes" vibe from sans. But he does have a serious side. Interesting.
Sans: \*dies* Chara: You... won? Mettaton NEO: \*busts through the doors* GUESS WHO GOT ENOUGH EXTRA TIME TO GET BETTER DEFENSES! Chara: FRICK SANS WAS JUST THERE TO STALL EVAC EVAC
This should have been a thing, would have been a good excuse for TSTMPWYFS. and its not like sans has much to loose since he knows you probably won't be happy with this routes ending anyway.
nope. and its not even cus of kr like everyone suggests, its his frame breaking ability that he loses thats detrimental. his damage per second easily exeeds 10 if he can break frames, at 30 damage per second because in undertale you run at 30 frames per second.
finally, not some "im level 100 and im overpowered as heck" battle and sans is actually tirek by using overpowered attacks that he cant attack anymore, original attacks and not just all overpowered version of sans's actual attacks, and not just bones thank you
I do kind of wish the game had more neutral endings. I always thought it would be interesting if there were a way you could do a genocide run, but spare only Papyrus, and then he and Sans are both there at the end to stop you and seem a lot more confused and frustrated by the whole situation.
To be fair Toby wanted all the neutral routes to be able to be aborted at any times or be the same gameplay whise thats why Even if You kill undyne alphys helps You because she had no idea undyne died or else she wouldnt even want to get close to frisk or how papyrus remains happy and willing to help by giving phone calls Even if everyone died because sans lies to him telling him everyone is on vacations
hello! it's okay, grammar error is normal. if people tell you what you write is wrong, take it as a neutral thing. :D (because, yeah, i have grammar error too, haha...)
I imagine sans’s fights in other routes being rather unconventional. Instead of managing health, you’re managing the situation itself to prevent escalation.
"... Consumed by that hollow feeling that comes from destroying your own creations..." -crazy hand's trophy description. I'll let y'all think about this.
Team vertex seem like pretty talented people, the art and fight looks nice and balanced, sans' personality seems very close to the original game. All and all, good job to them Edit: the volume is a little too low though
sans doesn't do anything except one thing in Undertale and that's try to be your friend. With some bad laughs and good food. sans and Pap will always be my favorite characters in Undertale. Skelebros for life Edit: Except to kill you in Genocide. He definitely tries at that
I like how this fight feels like a sans fight with it’s intensity and speed but it’s also on a lower scale then the genocide route which makes sense considering it’s a neutral run and plus the way sans keeps trying to understand why made it all come together
undertale canon neutral sans : chillin, not give a bad time to frisk EVERY UNDERTALE FANON NEUTRAL FANGAME SANS : bad time to frisk that didn't make any FUCKIN' sense
Sans' character is so much more evolved than most people can perceive, almost to the point of being... real. That's why sans himself is such a fan favorite, and why there are so many other AUs, is because he moves beyond the dialogue on the screen and the pixels he's made up of, this is all so amazing to see, that people can understand he's more than a sprite and textbox but an idea, that he hurts and feels too. This may seem extra and exaggerated but I just felt like pointing it out
I feel like sans promise is what is so powerful about the original neutral run And the fact that he only chooses to break it when he knows he’s the last one willing and able to fight is what leaves a mark Even if you killed a lot and even his close friends and brother He believes there is still hope in that promise since you didn’t completely genocide everything This take is still really good tho
I will, since Ik a lot about Sans. So, there’s actually two theories. 1. Sans used blue magic/telekinesis on the table 2. You’re being yeeted towards the tables
Why is nobody talking about where the fuck is"Song that might play when you fight Sans" Just joking, you did a really great job, pardner. I'm impressed, it is very well done. The sprites, the music, even the attacks are true to the original game. In Undertale, it seems that the attack goes on and on and out of nowhere the turn is cut, just like here. The only thing that should be polished a little more is the speed of dialogue. For the rest, it is perfect Also, being a neutral path concept, I'd like to see if Sans can be spared in the end.
I like how his attacks are more unpredictable but coordinated. Good choice learning a few things from Papyrus. His fight is quite long and keeps surprising us. I really want to see Papyrus' full potential.
That is the point of the deserved guilt trips the game puts you through, even if someone attacks first, it's your moral duty to not be like them, that's a, quote on quote, "good person's" duty to not attack back, and instead try reason and logic to change the other's mind, in the game's case, to show them what you want, to show them love, friendship or mercy, to get them to do what you don't want to, to act like you, to be better.
Why did I do it? Simple, because for some brilliant reason that only God knows, you decided to leave me with monsters that only want me dead, when you easily could've escorted me to Snowden, or better, to Asgore. I mean after all he is gonna kill me anyway, so why not just skip the middle man and take me to him instead of letting ever monster and their child try and kill me? Basically, I killed your brother as both of you left me to die. Plus your brother still kicked the crap out of me even if he didn't kill me. Just beating someone to near death instead of killing them. Clearly, a paragon of morality.
The opening to the fight needs worked on imo, it sounds like he's talking about a genocide run with the whole "killing every monster you see"..it's supposed to be a neutral run; that opening really confused me and made me double check the title of the video!
TLDR: This is a cool fight but it undermines sanses character of doing nothing because he knows theres no consequences I really like this fight and the attacks it has are incredibly creative but I feel like it undermines the point of sans. Sans knows whats going on. He knows about your ability to reset and save and because of this hes fine doing nothing because it doesn't matter in the end anyways. All he has to do is judge you at the end of the game in order to feel like hes done enough. But in the genocide run he knows that the only thing he can do is kill you so many times you reset your game. The fact that in this fangame hes not trying as hard as he does in genocide just means that theres no real reason for this fight to exist because sans would never go out of his way to fight you if there were no real consequences to avoiding the fight all together.
I feel like it should be based off your LV, but yeah. Honestly, the attacks get harder and do more damage until you get to LV 19, which is genocide. And I feel like the theme that plays should be based on who you kill. If you are under LV 10, then Song that Might Play When you Fight Sans should play. If Papyrus is killed or you are LV 11 or higher, Tears in the Rain should play.
im sorry but sans would never fight you for killing random monsters. he doesn't fight you for killing papyrus but if he did it wouldn't be very out of character. however fighting you for wiping out waterfall and killing undyne is. he sees it as self-defense and literally doesn't get mad at all.@@ahyesexistence1586
Act option chosen: reason "you tell Sans you can reset the timeline to bring Papyrus back" Sans: That won't bring my Brother back. It'll just give you another set of toys to play with, escaping responsibility yet again
I have a critique for the developers of this fangame... (Cue the fandom shitting on me for saying what is essentially an AU is anything less than perfect.) I would recommend finding an author or something to proofread and rewrite your game's script, I'm not saying it was horrible, (and I'm loathe to point this out anywhere on the internet) but there were a significant amount of grammatical and spelling errors and if you want to get a point clearly across, it's better to have a good understanding of the language you are writing in. Additionally, for, me personally, sans' reasoning for breaking the 'normal' neutral route by fighting Chara/Frisk kinda fell flat for me. However, I WILL complement the devs on their spritework and attack ideas, they were very smooth, and interesting to boot. Also, considering this fight's context,these attacks are possible and (from what we now about him and the Genocide route) likely, for sans to use.
sucks to see so many great developers that have amazing ideas, but their points fall flat because of glaring grammar errors that could be fixed so easily
@@oliveoiI Yes, it probably would have fallen (at least) a little less flat for me if I could properly read sans' dialogue. However, what I specifically meant by "Sans' motivation for breaking the 'normal' neutral route kinda fell flat for me." Is Sans' motivation could've used a bit more fine tuning. 'I just got tired of seeing you do genocide runs' is all well and good, but I kinda feel like the player should have to do something extra to trigger this theoretical Neutral route Sans fight. (I.e. choose to be a jerk, and then only kill Papyrus in Snowdin.) Like, I feel like there's gotta be a 'straw that broke the camel's back' type of thing.
idk why but the thumbnail made me think it was chess and now i'm sad rip chess 1v1 Also considering this is a neutral run, i just assume they just attacked all the enemies that got in the way, no grinding. Still self defense considering it wasn't done for the sake of murder, but to find their way out of a dangerous area, where your first experience was being betrayed by someone you thought you could trust. Toriel, was introduced right after flowery, which already tried to betray you, which makes anyone untrustworthy now, it's justified that you fought back when they wouldn't let you leave. Papyrus was dead set on kidnapping you, which is obviously self defense. Undyne was clearly there to kill you. Do i need to elaborate? I forgot the other characters, but if we talk about the regular enemies, they came out to fight you, not the other way around. Grinding is hunting, random encounters on the main path is self defense. Sometimes they try so hard to make you think morally, that you don't think normal. also sands undrtal died to a pan did he get random crit
I like the idea this would happen under these circumstances . Genocide route aborted by sparing papyrus .still reaches level 14 . Goes to grillbys withs sans . Goes to mtt resort with sans . Sans has passed judgment. .atleast 1 playthrough has been completed After all these criteria have been met you can fight im by going back to mtt resort. Oh and i know papryus dead in this but still fun to think of a trigger.
Uuurgh, the dialogs are so weak. It really shows how smart Sans was written in the original game, in there he is so blatant and... I'm sorry, but boring. The pacing of the text boxes being slow af doesn't help, I had to put the video at x2 during the intro sequence to stay awake. It's a good idea but man do I miss Toby's writing.
It’s really sad how everyone seems to miss the point of his character. Him fighting you at all in a Neutral Route completely misses the point of his character
Abit. But i think this fight will happened if you started a genocide run, but decided to stop halfway through waterfall. To the point where you meet and fight the regular undyne, killing her MIGHT started this so called "Conceptualized Neutral Run". Its like a pre-neutral run This fight won't happened if you kill the monster in hotland, though. It'll jinx this run, and instead counted it as a neutral run instead of pre-neutral run, since you left some monsters in waterfall.
You know, I’ve always wanted pacifist run fight with Sans. Seriously, it sucks that he never really got that much involvement in it despite being one of undertale’s most popular characters. And I get why he never had a fight, he’s supposed to be deceptively implied to be lazy and weak. But considering that he’s one of the mysterious characters (mostly because of his depression caused by somewhat unknown means) it would’ve been great and probably wholesome to have a “fight” with him and actually spare him.
![[Official] Undertale Last Breath | UNDERTALE Fangame | Chapter - 1 (Scrapped)](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/Wwf1QcIzYbE/mqdefault.jpg)
This version of sans isn't even angry... He is just tired, sad and confused...
To be honest he probably is mad, yes at the end he isn't but during the fight he was, that why his attacks were stronger, that's why he didn't plan to fight you then, that's why he threw a dinner table at you, and that's why his blasters were more powerful but broke once used.
Seems like in this fight he goes through the stages of grief starting at anger, since be probably went through denial before fighting us lol. You can see him bargaining by resolving to kill us followed by depression towards the end and finally acceptance when we hit him
he wasn't sad he was SANS idk why but yes it rhymes
@@LordFortz what? what rhymes there
This is what makes it more realistic
A none overpowered undertale Sans fanmade game? Impossible.
decently written as well? must be dreaming
If Tears In The Rains Was Officially Made By Toby Fox, Sans Would Be Weaker In The Fight.
I feel that this one needs to be a bit over powered because of his rage in this version because of the events prior to this encounter. In the others he wasn't going with rage but more of reason so he was careful with his attacks in both knowing what he has to do, but in this one he didn't think he would get this upset and confused so I think this one is only slightly over powered but it makes sense.
Exactly! It fits well within the universe itself, as in it doesn't undermine the genocidal version.
@@nullmiracles8538 But Sans is never angry per say? He hates you, but he knows deep down being mad won’t stop the fact that it’s not a fair fight at all. And unfortunately for him, he’s not the powerful one in the situation.
"the rain is starting to feel like cold water"
hmm yes the floor here is made out of floor
Yos
Who said it was water from the start?
@@bunnyboy98 the fact that it's called rain
@@mekhie.r.duncan3825 but how can we be 100% certain? It says it's rain, but could it really be??
@@bunnyboy98 but you can get acid rain, which isn't water
"What if we monsters slaughtered your entire family but spared the whole village, and then left?"
Seems like someone forgot _Asgore's plan to destroy humanity_
The thought actually scare me what if sans show up To this reality and kill all of are family
But technically after asriel’s death asgore pretty much gave up. He won’t say no to freedom though.
@@MDGOLD same
@@gen_0919 true
@@MDGOLD "are" family?
The table attacks though. It looks like he's using telekinesis to move the tables or something, but it's hilarious to just imagine sans throwing a whole table at frisk
Anime momento
Hey kid get a load of this! YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEET
Frisk: aaaaaaahh sans wat da heck
snas is drunk)
"hey kid, watch out for the table."
* i wasn't actually training.
* i just hooked up my magic to a calculator and multiplied it to deal more damage.
* heh, multiplying calculators to mulitply my damage is a fun time.
Hey buddy
Why didn't you do that in genocide bruh
I'm not wrong am I tho
@@skeetskootendmebro6112 IDK.
SANEEEEEEEES
I like how very different this fight is compared to the genocide run. There Sans’ attacks seem more calculated and precise in some points, while here it feels more like a blind rage and reckless mainly when he starts throwing objects.
It’s because the neutral route is kinda worse, because in genocide everyone is gone, nobody to worry or nobody to see that they don’t care about paps but in neutral. There’s plenty people and they just don’t care and his friends are worried about him, seeing that makes him enraged
I think that he isn’t as desperate to stop the human or i am dumb.
He’s angry you simply let everyone else live except pap, and the fact in genocide, he want to make sure you *die*
I don't think so
AYO I AM 1000TH LIKE
Sans Shapiro: " let's say, hypothetically, we were pals. Best pals, even, for the sake of argument. Ok, now let's take a look at the facts. In this hypothetical situation, if we were pals, then why, pray tell, why would you kill my brother?"
clean
Sanspiro
I need a mod for this right now
Youre not allowed to use words anymore
Bro I even read that in his voice Wtf
The person who made this is really good at knowing a character and that only a specific few natural runs would get sans mad, sans isn't one to let his emotions out but if you get on his bones in the right way you can get him to start to do things out of anger which would cause him to attack in a natural run, if you only killed his brother he would know too well you trying to get him mad so he won't fight you, but he can understand why you killed a few monsters in the ruins only papyrus in snowdin and a few in water fall. He would only know if he was the player and not in the position of only seeing his timeline and no other senses ones, remember a judge is mentally strong but not indestructible.
This is out of character. Sans literally doesn’t care enough to get mad
@@sptflcrw8583 he does though. he may not show it, but in the genocide run he is definitely mad at you. and killing his brother is something he most definitely cares about.
He also tells you to "Go to hell" on the neutral ending call if you kill Papyrus lol
@@ninnikins4768 maybe I should rephrase. He does get mad, it’s just that he doesn’t do anything about it because he knows it’s pointless. There’s a reason he only ever fights you in the Genocide route
@@sptflcrw8583 same reason he would fight you now. you pushed him over the edge.
It's more unsettling that sans fights you there
He ain't waiting till judgement hall.
In the genocide run, he's lost everyone. He doesn't even have anyone to grieve with. It's theorized he even wauted until that point to use his KR abilities so it could dish out maximum pain. You get himmt by one clump of attacks, and your hp tanks. 1 damage doesn't matter there. You get the full surprise of how powerful Sans actually is.
In the neutral run, he hasn't lost everyone. Sometimes, he doesn't lose anyone at all. At least he has someone though. You're not as powerful, having slain less, so the KR won't work as well as it potentially could. Sans isn't on his last legs of sanity, having seen everyone die. You merely get a glimpse of what Sans can do, and it still doesn't do his capabilities justice.
To put it frankly, I can completely understand and agree with Toby keeping Sans out of combat until the end of the genocide route, but this is still an interesting take on what could have been.
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Actually asgore is still alive when you fight sans in genocide so I guess he could grieve with asgore if he wanted to
@Kold to be fair we dont know how great the underground is
@Kold well, i expected less but its kinda a decent number
Well yes but there are thousand of neutral routes possible and in this one he had hope that his brother would be spared because of frisk sparing everyone in snowdin,just to see his brother die,if I were him I would be more than mad
This definitely needed (needs?) a proof-reader, but the fan game itself is quite well made
Needed is the past tense needs is the present tense so technically both are correct
@@Equinox_5 found the proof reader
@@grandmasteryoda2605 wrong it's the proof found reader
@@Equinox_5 it's the wrong, profound rea of der
@@grandmasteryoda2605 ugh eno fair
What wouldve been cool, is when you eat an item sans would have a different dialouge, like the snowman piece, “you know, that snowman just wanted to see the world. See how non boring this world can be, but you had to eat him just for your health.
you're right
"all that piece of pie wanted to do was to be whole again, but you had to take that away from it."
@@quarterlevel9483 XD this made me laugh harder than is should've
“That unicycle was once a bicycle, and you ripped it apart”
@@quarterlevel9483 haha good one
Holy shit i just realized why sans has 10atk. Thats his original stats, but because on the genocide run we are so strong, his attacks feels way weak, like it deals 1 damage.
though frisks def + current armor in this game.. the damage wouldnt really make sennse of why its that high. Frisks def at that level would be 13 excluding armor, and with cowboy hat giving 12.
the players def wouldve been 25.
This would make sans damage to 1-2 due to defense of the player compared to sans 10 atk, madjick has 29 atk, but does 7 dmg per hit to the player with 25 defense.
Uhm sorry but no his stats all around is 1 but tell me if your angry wouldn't you have a stronger punch?
@@nullmiracles8538 Yeah, but remember. Defense reduces that damage up to a minimum of 1 damage per hit taken. With san's ATK being 10. compared to Frisk's defense being 25. That would mean sans would be doing a total of 1 dmg per hit.
No, that's not it: he trained this time to become stronger. The ATK and DEF values of your opponent have zero relativity to you.
@@bluphenyx They do. The ATK of your opponents refers to how much DAMAGE per HIT your opponent can do to you; the player. and the opponents DEF refers to how much DAMAGE can be REDUCED per hit taken. And the minimum damage allowed per hit is 1.
Even with sans 10 ATK, they will do a minimum of 1 damage per hit against someone with 25 DEF. However, sans DEF will mean they will take less damage. and thats a given if sans doesn't have 1 hp.
Stats in UT has meaning canonly. HP means how much health points you can lose before dying. ATK is how much power per hit you can do. and DEF is how much damage gets reduced. So they still have meaning regardless.
The only way sans to get 'stronger' is just to have more harder to dodge attacks, but thats more of strats and tactics than stats unless he gets more than 10 ATK, 10 defense and 1 hp.
The idea that sans is using everything at this room to attack frisk makes me imagine sans Catching ketchups from the shop while throw the tables and candles on frisk
0:46 Top 10 saddest Anime deaths
rip extras button
And 8:11
@@illuminatiyo006 ?
@@the_fungus_ I think they maybe meant that was the part the player took damage first at after no hitting a bit.
I am crying gallons rn bf of this
Sans: *calls Frisk “he”*
Everyone in the Undertale fandom: Sorry, we don’t do that here
I mean the character is supposed to be gender-neutral, so the fanbase can use whatever pronouns they’d like
That’s true
@@the_fungus_ indeed, but whenever someone does that a lot of people go "HMMM ACTUALY"
i do
Actually this happens all the time,Frisk is a they though
Concept: when you stopped the genocide run in waterfall by sparing monster kid but somehow still killed Undyne then this fight occurs
It is said in the video that the whole snowdin was shared except papyrus tho
It is said in the video that the whole snowdin was spared except papyrus tho
Right I typed this comment before seeing that ;-;
It would be cool in the real game if it was an aborted genocide route that causes this fight
@Kund
I always thought he hates making promises because he knows he can never keep them
Sans: "How dare you hurt innocent monsters!"
Also Sans: *killed at least one of the fallen children and admitted he would've killed Frisk without provocation*
He's killed a human??
@@haousupreme206 It's heavily implied that Sans has killed at least one of the other fallen children. Undyne has never fought a human before, not every human made it to Asgore and Sans outright says he would have killed you if Toriel hadn't made him promise not to.
@@firelordsozin8308 I mean I think sans just says that to us to act cool like that's his personality, he wouldn't have actually done it. But I'm not sure about how it's implied and all, it's been a while.
@@haousupreme206 I don't know. He sounded pretty serious, especially considering he did that eyeless socket thing he only ever does when he expresses hatred. And it seems like a pretty elaborate story to tell just to scare a literal child.
Add to that the fact that the possessions of the children are scattered all over the Underground (with Sans being the only monster known to travel between them), Asgore not having killed all the children (otherwise their remains wouldn't be scattered everywhere) and Undyne not having fought a human before leaves us with few monsters who could be candidates for human extermination.
@@firelordsozin8308 oh shit is this the part where he says "you'd be dead where you stand"
ahh dang yeah that's possible then
I just always got the "goody-two shoes" vibe from sans. But he does have a serious side. Interesting.
I like how sans just yeets a table at frisk mid/end fight
Yea guess you say he was stronger than tables
Sans mimicking Flowey's "I just can't understand" with "I just don't get it"
Nice
Sans: \*dies*
Chara: You... won?
Mettaton NEO: \*busts through the doors* GUESS WHO GOT ENOUGH EXTRA TIME TO GET BETTER DEFENSES!
Chara: FRICK SANS WAS JUST THERE TO STALL EVAC EVAC
Mettaton neo:swiggty swees im coming for your knees!
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Mettaton NEO: Hippity hoppity, your skeletal system is my property
@@ohmeohmicah Spamton NEO: Skedaddle skedoodle, your [HYPERLINK BLOCKED] is now a noodle!
Wow I love the fact it says “Slightly the weakest monster” instead of “the weakest monster” due to him training
his*
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1. They're both correct
2. This comment was made a year ago
@@Negonkey 3. no one cares about grammar if it's understendable
@@AgenteP.i.c.o_474.it's spelled "understandable".
@@The_spine_snatcher 5. It was proposital.
Everyone gangsta until neutral turns immediately into genocide at the end
This is a way better take on nuetral run
neutral*
Nice pfp
@@RabXML nuetral
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*Nutreal
@@RabXML *nutmeg
The table attack had me laughing
Despite everything... its still sans...
Yeah till a fork hits your eye
@@nullmiracles8538 That would be the best part!
Timestamp?
@@dumbidiot02 12:39
This should have been a thing, would have been a good excuse for TSTMPWYFS. and its not like sans has much to loose since he knows you probably won't be happy with this routes ending anyway.
what? seems like u just wrote random capital letters? can u elaborate on what that stands for
@@faiqassassin9100 that song that might play when you fight sans
@@Solesteam ah I get it now
@@Solesteam idk though because this fight also has a serious tone like the normal sans fight and I think the music just wouldn't fit
STMPWYFS is probably more fitting if you fought sans in a pacifist route
10 attack?
He just got a whole lot more dangerous...
Without kr
Actually he got weaker without the kr sadly.
@@ziongamer6905 yep
nope. and its not even cus of kr like everyone suggests, its his frame breaking ability that he loses thats detrimental. his damage per second easily exeeds 10 if he can break frames, at 30 damage per second because in undertale you run at 30 frames per second.
I think karma is stronger then 10 attk
Sans: "I got a little simple question for ya."
Frisk: *Sweating Intensifies*
finally, not some "im level 100 and im overpowered as heck" battle and sans is actually tirek by using overpowered attacks that he cant attack anymore, original attacks and not just all overpowered version of sans's actual attacks, and not just bones
thank you
Or not just gaster blasters
The idea of Sans yeeting the restaurant tables as attacks is so rad. Gives into the idea of him loosing his temper.
I do kind of wish the game had more neutral endings. I always thought it would be interesting if there were a way you could do a genocide run, but spare only Papyrus, and then he and Sans are both there at the end to stop you and seem a lot more confused and frustrated by the whole situation.
Check out undertale: rejuvenation if you want that scenario
@@achievedchair17 yeah but it ain't in the actual game
To be fair Toby wanted all the neutral routes to be able to be aborted at any times or be the same gameplay whise thats why Even if You kill undyne alphys helps You because she had no idea undyne died or else she wouldnt even want to get close to frisk or how papyrus remains happy and willing to help by giving phone calls Even if everyone died because sans lies to him telling him everyone is on vacations
This fangame is really nice even Sans behaviour is almost totally cannon. I love this thing :D
I don't think he has EXPLOSIVE emotes btw it's canon not cannon
Minus all the grammatical errors
Well...yeah...
hello! it's okay, grammar error is normal. if people tell you what you write is wrong, take it as a neutral thing. :D (because, yeah, i have grammar error too, haha...)
I don't get the almost part because it seems spot on sans behavior
Heyyyy~
Been a while,hmm? Still impressive as always,i am always looking up to you,please dont stop being as amazing as you always are!
Thanks
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“You wonder why it’s raining down here” Yeah I know right? It’s underground too,also poor Sans.
Stalactite drip?
I imagine sans’s fights in other routes being rather unconventional.
Instead of managing health, you’re managing the situation itself to prevent escalation.
Interesting concept actually
That "You Win...?"was sinister, plus the music after.
The grammar and spelling in this aren't the greatest, but I really enjoy the graphics and the idea behind it, as well as many of the new attacks.
"... Consumed by that hollow feeling that comes from destroying your own creations..." -crazy hand's trophy description.
I'll let y'all think about this.
Shaw.
Team vertex seem like pretty talented people, the art and fight looks nice and balanced, sans' personality seems very close to the original game. All and all, good job to them
Edit: the volume is a little too low though
sans doesn't do anything except one thing in Undertale and that's try to be your friend. With some bad laughs and good food. sans and Pap will always be my favorite characters in Undertale. Skelebros for life
Edit: Except to kill you in Genocide. He definitely tries at that
I like how this fight feels like a sans fight with it’s intensity and speed but it’s also on a lower scale then the genocide route which makes sense considering it’s a neutral run and plus the way sans keeps trying to understand why made it all come together
8:31 Look at that stupid smug look on his face,he knows what he’s doing XD
undertale canon neutral sans : chillin, not give a bad time to frisk
EVERY UNDERTALE FANON NEUTRAL FANGAME SANS : bad time to frisk that didn't make any FUCKIN' sense
When the day comes where Undertale fandom becomes more stable and more popular again,I hope you make it big ma dude
I love his facial expressions here
Okay him throwing the table at you is pretty funny 🤣
I’m gonna bet it’s tears in the rain
ooh yeah that's the song
i thought it was last breath for a moment lol
no nO NO DONT TELL HIM
@Horrid Gamer i need a pun right fuck*ng now
@@bluesnola1707 geez ur making me get down to the BONE right about now.
Edit:your welcome
@@Kiwi19865 LB used the motifs of tt.
Normal Doors: *Knock Knock*
This Door: *Tock Tock*
02:15
When Tories doesn't tell sans not to murder the child...
yooo, this is awesome
i’ma give it a good yelp review
5 stars bc cutting sans with a fucking pan
After Christopher moon we have the special earth edition lol
at least theres no Terra-ble joke
Now we just only need christopher sun and it's perfect.
Sans' character is so much more evolved than most people can perceive, almost to the point of being... real. That's why sans himself is such a fan favorite, and why there are so many other AUs, is because he moves beyond the dialogue on the screen and the pixels he's made up of, this is all so amazing to see, that people can understand he's more than a sprite and textbox but an idea, that he hurts and feels too. This may seem extra and exaggerated but I just felt like pointing it out
F a c t s
This is so fricking well made
its neat how people still make undertale content for the fandom to enjoy
I feel like sans promise is what is so powerful about the original neutral run
And the fact that he only chooses to break it when he knows he’s the last one willing and able to fight is what leaves a mark
Even if you killed a lot and even his close friends and brother
He believes there is still hope in that promise since you didn’t completely genocide everything
This take is still really good tho
Is no one gonna mention about how Sans -Yeet- throws the table ?
No
I will, since Ik a lot about Sans. So, there’s actually two theories.
1. Sans used blue magic/telekinesis on the table
2. You’re being yeeted towards the tables
The Sprite work is too frickong beautiful
Welp. I 100% can say, that in this game no mercy ending.
the music is such a banger when I hear the first 3 seconds
imagine if after all that fight/talk frisk just spared sans lol
Why is nobody talking about where the fuck is"Song that might play when you fight Sans"
Just joking, you did a really great job, pardner. I'm impressed, it is very well done. The sprites, the music, even the attacks are true to the original game. In Undertale, it seems that the attack goes on and on and out of nowhere the turn is cut, just like here.
The only thing that should be polished a little more is the speed of dialogue. For the rest, it is perfect
Also, being a neutral path concept, I'd like to see if Sans can be spared in the end.
The way the blasters shake the screen is terrifying
4:44 hehehhe the dialogue was in sync with the usic
if there was a sparing option to just doing a pun when you have your oppurtunity i would literally be happy
The real question is, why is it raining indoors? Frisk made some good points.
Pretty cool concept, I think it would work well if it only happened in a post genocide neutral run as an extra surprise
I like how his attacks are more unpredictable but coordinated. Good choice learning a few things from Papyrus. His fight is quite long and keeps surprising us. I really want to see Papyrus' full potential.
"You try to justify your actions you-
Me: last I checked they all attacked me first so me killing them is justified
Whimsum, Vulcan, and Greater Dog (if you stay still) would like to have a word with you
@@Mechanicalamity they still attacked first
@@Rhino-Prime Technically I was wrong about Vulcan, but the others still apply
That is the point of the deserved guilt trips the game puts you through, even if someone attacks first, it's your moral duty to not be like them, that's a, quote on quote, "good person's" duty to not attack back, and instead try reason and logic to change the other's mind, in the game's case, to show them what you want, to show them love, friendship or mercy, to get them to do what you don't want to, to act like you, to be better.
You are an immortal time traveller but a fly attacking you is sentence for death to them, makes sense.
Yknow, since this is in the restaurant…. Do you think Burgerpants is just watching this from his station like “……”
9:43
You wonder why its raining down here
Me: ... Bruh
Why did I do it? Simple, because for some brilliant reason that only God knows, you decided to leave me with monsters that only want me dead, when you easily could've escorted me to Snowden, or better, to Asgore. I mean after all he is gonna kill me anyway, so why not just skip the middle man and take me to him instead of letting ever monster and their child try and kill me?
Basically, I killed your brother as both of you left me to die. Plus your brother still kicked the crap out of me even if he didn't kill me. Just beating someone to near death instead of killing them. Clearly, a paragon of morality.
There’s pretty much tears in the rain
The opening to the fight needs worked on imo, it sounds like he's talking about a genocide run with the whole "killing every monster you see"..it's supposed to be a neutral run; that opening really confused me and made me double check the title of the video!
TLDR: This is a cool fight but it undermines sanses character of doing nothing because he knows theres no consequences
I really like this fight and the attacks it has are incredibly creative but I feel like it undermines the point of sans. Sans knows whats going on. He knows about your ability to reset and save and because of this hes fine doing nothing because it doesn't matter in the end anyways. All he has to do is judge you at the end of the game in order to feel like hes done enough. But in the genocide run he knows that the only thing he can do is kill you so many times you reset your game. The fact that in this fangame hes not trying as hard as he does in genocide just means that theres no real reason for this fight to exist because sans would never go out of his way to fight you if there were no real consequences to avoiding the fight all together.
This really brings a whole to the meaning "well the turn tables"
Finally a high quality remaster of the gaster blaster
Sans: I have a little simple question
Me: DO YOU WANNA HAVE A BAD TIME
Sans: why?
Me: ._.
This game really takes guilt to a whole new level
Sans: “Hey!”
Frisk: ?
Sans: “Look out!”
*A table hits frisk in the face at mach 10*
Opinion : There should be a neutral sans fight where the difficulty is based on how many monsters have you killed
I feel like it should be based off your LV, but yeah.
Honestly, the attacks get harder and do more damage until you get to LV 19, which is genocide. And I feel like the theme that plays should be based on who you kill. If you are under LV 10, then Song that Might Play When you Fight Sans should play. If Papyrus is killed or you are LV 11 or higher, Tears in the Rain should play.
And if you kill enough monsters, You get KR
im sorry but sans would never fight you for killing random monsters. he doesn't fight you for killing papyrus but if he did it wouldn't be very out of character. however fighting you for wiping out waterfall and killing undyne is. he sees it as self-defense and literally doesn't get mad at all.@@ahyesexistence1586
@marioluigibros.8176 i was thinking it would be a cool concept. besides, i know sans gives exactly zero shits
I mean he doesn't want to get angry towards the anomaly (frisk) that way they are satisfied and wont reset.@@ahyesexistence1586
Finally a fangame that doesn’t rely on bullcrap difficulty
The animation of sans fight its cool tho
Act option chosen: reason
"you tell Sans you can reset the timeline to bring Papyrus back"
Sans: That won't bring my Brother back. It'll just give you another set of toys to play with, escaping responsibility yet again
WHY IS IT RAINING IN THE HOTEL?!
Undertale logic
Massive water leak
Y’know i thought his fight would just be Sans playing a game of Poker against you and your acts are all things that allow you to play against him
I have a critique for the developers of this fangame... (Cue the fandom shitting on me for saying what is essentially an AU is anything less than perfect.)
I would recommend finding an author or something to proofread and rewrite your game's script, I'm not saying it was horrible, (and I'm loathe to point this out anywhere on the internet) but there were a significant amount of grammatical and spelling errors and if you want to get a point clearly across, it's better to have a good understanding of the language you are writing in. Additionally, for, me personally, sans' reasoning for breaking the 'normal' neutral route by fighting Chara/Frisk kinda fell flat for me. However, I WILL complement the devs on their spritework and attack ideas, they were very smooth, and interesting to boot. Also, considering this fight's context,these attacks are possible and (from what we now about him and the Genocide route) likely, for sans to use.
this ^^^
sucks to see so many great developers that have amazing ideas, but their points fall flat because of glaring grammar errors that could be fixed so easily
@@oliveoiI Yes, it probably would have fallen (at least) a little less flat for me if I could properly read sans' dialogue. However, what I specifically meant by "Sans' motivation for breaking the 'normal' neutral route kinda fell flat for me." Is Sans' motivation could've used a bit more fine tuning. 'I just got tired of seeing you do genocide runs' is all well and good, but I kinda feel like the player should have to do something extra to trigger this theoretical Neutral route Sans fight. (I.e. choose to be a jerk, and then only kill Papyrus in Snowdin.) Like, I feel like there's gotta be a 'straw that broke the camel's back' type of thing.
"What if we spared the whole village but murdered your family out of nowhere" Sans must've forgot papyrus tried to kill the player
Capture*
06:25 Lmao that expression looks a little too derpy.
idk why but the thumbnail made me think it was chess and now i'm sad
rip chess 1v1
Also considering this is a neutral run, i just assume they just attacked all the enemies that got in the way, no grinding.
Still self defense considering it wasn't done for the sake of murder, but to find their way out of a dangerous area, where your first experience was being betrayed by someone you thought you could trust.
Toriel, was introduced right after flowery, which already tried to betray you, which makes anyone untrustworthy now, it's justified that you fought back when they wouldn't let you leave.
Papyrus was dead set on kidnapping you, which is obviously self defense.
Undyne was clearly there to kill you. Do i need to elaborate?
I forgot the other characters, but if we talk about the regular enemies, they came out to fight you, not the other way around. Grinding is hunting, random encounters on the main path is self defense.
Sometimes they try so hard to make you think morally, that you don't think normal.
also sands undrtal died to a pan
did he get random crit
I wanna see the full undertale game in this engine, it looks really cool!
I like the idea this would happen under these circumstances
. Genocide route aborted by sparing papyrus
.still reaches level 14
. Goes to grillbys withs sans
. Goes to mtt resort with sans
. Sans has passed judgment.
.atleast 1 playthrough has been completed
After all these criteria have been met you can fight im by going back to mtt resort.
Oh and i know papryus dead in this but still fun to think of a trigger.
Uuurgh, the dialogs are so weak. It really shows how smart Sans was written in the original game, in there he is so blatant and... I'm sorry, but boring. The pacing of the text boxes being slow af doesn't help, I had to put the video at x2 during the intro sequence to stay awake.
It's a good idea but man do I miss Toby's writing.
It’s really sad how everyone seems to miss the point of his character. Him fighting you at all in a Neutral Route completely misses the point of his character
10:46 YOOOO sans just turned into a fnaf character
This doesn’t really feel like a Neutral Run battle; it’s looks more like a glorified Genocide Run.
Abit. But i think this fight will happened if you started a genocide run, but decided to stop halfway through waterfall. To the point where you meet and fight the regular undyne, killing her MIGHT started this so called "Conceptualized Neutral Run". Its like a pre-neutral run
This fight won't happened if you kill the monster in hotland, though. It'll jinx this run, and instead counted it as a neutral run instead of pre-neutral run, since you left some monsters in waterfall.
Fun fact : this is the only place that isn't last corridor
17:59 wait thats illegal.
You know, I’ve always wanted pacifist run fight with Sans. Seriously, it sucks that he never really got that much involvement in it despite being one of undertale’s most popular characters.
And I get why he never had a fight, he’s supposed to be deceptively implied to be lazy and weak. But considering that he’s one of the mysterious characters (mostly because of his depression caused by somewhat unknown means) it would’ve been great and probably wholesome to have a “fight” with him and actually spare him.
1:40 its a plant pot
dear god
It has a tall plant in it
no
I still love animated backgrounds like that in fights
Omg im Sans in Neutral run,now i have attack 10,bc someone killed my brother
Hey, at least it’s not overpowered as fuck and is actually balanced