RX7600: Linux Plug And Play 120fps Gaming
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- Опубліковано 2 жов 2024
- Wendell check out the Sapphire Pulse RX 7600 on Linux! Woo Linux content!
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Hooray, Linux gaming! I’m using Linux Mint, and my son and i do some light gaming. It’s great.
Mint is a ridiculously pleasant OS.
Heavy gaming is also no problem on Linux 😊
@@Mageoftheyear *boring and pointless
I use Linux Mint 21.1, which plays great with my Nvidia RTX 3050 and even better with my AMD RX 6600 - both are 8GB GPUs.
A distro which properly supports KDE Plasma, like Nobara is way better than Linux Mint!
I just upgraded to a Sapphire Pulse RX 7900XT, it's running fantasticaly on Manjaro KDE.
Another quality Linux video, thanks Wendell! I will wait for the 7700/7700XT review from you and then decide what to buy.
Hi, love this video! Could you guys make one like it but with an A770?
just picked up the arc 750 to try in popos on an old mobo/cpu.
@@cdoublejj Please, tell me later how it went, I'm thinking to get one for a new build
Don't get Arc, the drivers on Linux are god awful
@@tannisroot I've heard they got better overtime, is it right? Maybe I can wait on the second gen..... I'm broke brazilian person.....
@@vitoru1000 not by much, it's still garbage tier even on mesa-git (which I've tried with A380 last month and almost nothing worked properly). Phoronix sometimes published tests of the various cards, you can read how bad it is yourself.
I replaced my 6900XT with a 7900XTX, it runs like a charm, kernel 6.3.3 on ubuntu 22.04 :).
The 6700XT can still be found at ~$320-$350 at the moment, and offers better performance for a similar form factor with significantly more VRAM.
Alternatively, there's the ARC A750, which is another $70 cheaper and gets pretty darn close with its performance to the 7600 and 4060Ti.
At around the $300 mark, I don't really think this card is priced right for what it offers (limited VRam, bad thermals from the reference card, bigger form factor from the partner offers).
You're generally correct on that. Though the RDNA3 +/- 1.969x performance per *thing on board* also truly looks to be not-a-joke, which is why the little 7600 is exciting. We finally have a generational gain worth talking about over the HD 7950.
You forgot that Intel Arc only works well on Windows. On Linux, the drivers are hot garbage. It's not even 50% of Windows performance in games, if the game even runs at all (it will most likely not).
Definitely right about the 6700xt, however Nvidia and Intel Arc GPUs aren't really comparable here because we're talking about Linux use and gaming, for which AMD very much still holds a huge advantage in general thanks to their great, open source, drivers, regardless of the Windows gaming performance
How is Arc + Linux?
@chafarlefeu The primary reason I'm not buying a 7600 right now is that it's exactly half of what I need from it.
Love pop_os. its solid and the tiling features are great for productivity stuff like programming. i was a manjaro users for years but have now settled on pop as my favorite distro. its just all around awesome. cant wait for them to release their re-written cosmic DE.
Same. Pop OS for the win! I did put Windows 11 on my 7700x + 6950xt build but that was to test some things. I want to get back to PopOS on that system so bad now
Complete popos convert. Use it for everything, sadly stuck on NVIDIA in order to get best Plex transcoding experience but lightyears ahead of the modern Windows experience imho.
@@robertsay4374 i still have windows on a separate drive for some games, but once pop os release their DE, and HDR is working ok, ill finally be able to say goodbye to windows forever.
Has wendell worn the programming socks yet?
Yeah Pop OS! Awesome, use it since 2017 and never left😀 and very gaming friendly. Cant wait for their new desktop.
2:13 "Meanwhile AMD is sort of the star of the show here, when it comes to AMD support."
You had me in the first half, not gonna lie.
I hope they have a 9800 pro in two more generations. Finally I'll be able to buy my first card again!
True, that would be fun :). I believe I have the XT version (9800XT). I guess I better save up now or grow another kidney.
I had to update my kernel back when I got my 6700xt. Mint went in to it's version of safe mode automagicaly and it was super easy to update to a new kernel that supported the card using the update manager. Nice to see the newer generation of stuff maturing on Linux.
@@4tado rolling releases aren't suitable for every usage at all. Though Debian Stable has quite recent software available in the backports if you really need to use some of them (Flatpack, Appimage, Snap, tarball and compilation are other available options as well).
@@PainterVierax I agree, rolling release and point release both have their place and use case.
Personally I’m excited for Debian 12 (Bookworm) to be released on June 10th.
Just picked up a XFX RX7600. I'm using Arch so it was pretty much install and go. On slight sale at B&H for about $250.
Hi. Im going yo use this one with Arch, could you say more of your experience?
@@kairi8882 Works well now. For a while the GPU compute stuff was broken, but it's fixed. I'm not a big gamer so little to report there, except that Steam with 10 bit color now seems to be working too.
Great job Wendell! Love your content.
I am too retarded to do anything on Linux, but I love the Level1 videos 😊
There’s a few different distributions of Linux that are very beginner friendly since you can do stuff in a GUI and without the command line. (Two that come to mind are Pop_OS! and Linux Mint.)
Linux distros evolved a lot during the last decade. You don't really need to be smart anymore, everything is plug and play nowadays even gaming.
I installed Mint for 70 yo people and they totally managed the transition from Windows.
If I didn't have to use CUDA for work, I'd be on AMD in a heartbeat.
Have you looked into using their HIP/ROCm compatibility layers?
@@benjaminoechsli1941 Not available for RDNA3 yet, it works unofficially for RDNA2 but support and documentation isn't there, otherwise you need a Radeon Pro card, an old Vega or Polaris card, or CDNA, two of those 4 are really expensive, while polaris is kinda weak for most production tasks these days, and Vega I guess can work but is also aging and is hard to find for a decent price for a new one.
@@benjaminoechsli1941 No, have not, but will do - t hanks!
Wendell, how do you underclock this graphics card or any graphics card on Linux? That way the heat could be mitigated.
Greetings from CHIAPAS Mexico.
The Deus Ex: Mankind Divided "native" Linux version uses an old Wine wrapper that translates to OpenGL and has kinda crappy performance, so running a recent translation layer that uses Vulkan is basically always going to crush it in terms of performance.
That's most of the Linux game ports in a nutshell. Though even when they don't do a Wine or Mono wrapper and call it native, the Linux support is often dropped or severely lagging behind the Windows binaries. That's why a decade ago before Vulkan and Proton, gaming on Linux wasn't an advisable solution.
@@PainterVierax I think I wouldn't say most, but a lot of ports do have issues of some sorts, unfortunately. I hope that at some point Linux will have reached such a market share with gamers that devs will look at supporting Linux natively again but properly this time, because it seems like many are relying on Proton these days because it delivers very good results with often little to no effort. Let's see where this is going :)
@@frederikholfeld868 Honestly, I have little to no faith on most game devs to support native Linux builds for more than a couple of years so the actual compatibility layers like DXVK, Proton or WayDroid are the way to allow long term compatibility on Linux. Then for the longest term, there are emulators, on-chip translation layers and fpgas.
AMD is king when on Linux!
2:13 Man, I sure am glad that AMD has great AMD support 🤣
The world when AMD get's CUDA or rather an equivalent:
I mean, they have HIP as a compatibility layer. ROCm works too, I believe.
This is a worthwhile FYI. I was thinking I'd have to wait a few months after the release of the RX 7700 before I'd get that "plug it in and it'll just works" experience on Linux. It sounds like I'll be good to go on day one.
Well, you might still have some kernel and mesa updates to do depending on your distro.
@@PainterVierax Debian is releasing Debian 12 (Bookworm) on June 10th and it should be running the Linux 6.1 kernel.
anyone tested on debian 12 ? wana buy 1 or 2....
Good video, just starting to feel it's time to upgrade my Ryzen 7 Gen1 kit.
Samsung's in trouble, lol
Thanks for letting me know about this, i was wondering about AMD's drivers on linux. Not surprised to hear that it can sometimes be faster. :)
if you switched to mesa git you would have had a even better time with the 7600 as the default mesa on pop os is relatively old
No reset, no buy. And where is VGPU support? :)
Really enjoy this sort of video from Wendell, promoting gaming on Linux. Also, looks like you have lost weight - looking smart Sir!
power color makes good silent amd cards i got 6900xt red devil ultimate, and i have never heard it once but i do run 5 case fans at 1200 rpm
Holy moly, has my homie lost weight? You're looking FRESH, Wendell!
This channel needs WAY MORE LIVE like this...
so hardware passthrough, now only a tool for games that are too anticheat-heavy to trick into working with any version of proton? otherwise it's not even really a performance gain anymore?
Looks like I chose the right card for my Arch tower (although I picked up an XT. So excited for it to arrive, my aging GTX1080 performs well but can be temperamental
I'm still stuck using Debian 12 Stable (Linux Kernal 6.1 or so) so I'll have to be happy to use a 6800XT at the moment.
6:28 the window in the background graphically glitching haha
Ouch, I don't like it when you just rip the SSD box open. You stick your finger in, and fiddle the liddy thing out!
Very awesome I am totally gonna do a linux build next year bye bye windows and high priced nvidia cards. :)
REAL prices is not so high on RX6600 and thats a problem for the new card.
I must say the only frustrating thing about Amd on linux is setting it up for bot gaming and light content creation, still don't get how to do it under fedora.
huge thanks for doing these videos
Edit: btw good job on ur health man ur looking great
sadly the games i play are awfull runing in linux and none are linux native
I'm wondering what the performance in compute tasks like distributed computing is, whether that's on Linux or Windows. Would be nice to see how it does in folding@home.
Finally a true video on this card. Other reviewers are not being realistic with a modern 8GB 1080p card.
Love POP, might need to switch back from Mint
What is not realistic about benchmarks? Cant be more realistic
@@shiningview some choose to just max out the resolution, graphical settings then bash the product. Happened with the 30 series nvidia cards too. Not just team red, with Ray Tracing on a 3060/ti .... Cards were not intended to be RT and High 1440p+ cards.
@@crazycoastie if these cards aren't meant for ultra settings or RT, then Nvidia and AMD need to stop pretending they are ! Same as critiquing AMD for making an 8GB GPU because just last month they were making fun of Nvidia for doing just that!
Intel.. please you're the only hope for competition on Linux
How about intel arc, their gpu also open source to
Nice, it's definitely plug and play. I just got my PowerColor Helhound 7600 and installed it on separate system running Manjaro (Kernel 6.4.0rc2 and 6.3.5, open source drivers) and it works well for the price. What I don't get is why (in my case) it seems to be power-capped to 135w (and it only permits me to change power-cap to 145w). I'm thinking it might be related to the fact that it seems to be identified as a Navi 33 - Radeon RX 7700S/7600S... (?) On Windows it's perfectly fine going as high as 168w in testing, however I don't particularly want to run Windows at all. What's the power cap on your system? Any ideas where I should start looking? Thanks
Sapphire fanboys unite
nice one. subscribed o/
It's probably a good idea to reinstall your OS for a GPU upgrade right? Never done this before.
My Fedora install isn't recognizing my new 7600 and the performance is nowhere near where it should be. 48fps in Baldur's Gate 3 on 1080p Low settings.
Installed this on a Fedora system. It's rarely fully utilized while the fps is still low. I have a Ryzen 5 3600 thats also never fully utilized in both single and multi-core loads.
30fps in Starfield Medium, which i know is far too low for this system. There are times when it devolves into RX580-level performance.
I've fucked with just about every BIOS setting there is.
It seems like theres a power cap or maybe some driver issues. Leaving performance on the table sucks.
Maan, great review and everything! But how did you manage to lose weight?! Ozempic? :) Thumbs up to that!
@G R Sometimes there is a positive outcome even with negative experiences! Stay healthy! 🤝
@G R wait is that really what happened?
@@rudysal1429 From a bit of searching, it sounds like he got bitten by a Lone Star tick, which causes a permanent red meat allergy. He may have also contracted lyme disease from it. If that sounds terrifying to anyone reading this, be kind to your friendly neighborhood opossum - they eat ticks like candy!
Hi Wendell, any chance of a vid showing testing Intel Arc 750/770 on Linux?
How does this compare to the 1660S?
I'm using one of those on my Linux workstation to fully dedicate the 3090ti to ML.
Im waiting 7700(xt)/7800 cause x8 wont cut it for me with PCIE 3.0 board.
I heard 7900xtx having doficultoes passing through not surprised w this one, how is it if you enable csm/legacy boot in yoir bios settings?
What computer case was this ??????
But somehow I got rocm working under Fedora finally
I thought this was boogie2988
Think Steve might disagree with you on it NOT getting hot
Hope for more support so i don't have to touch windows again..
getting back into the groove but to segue off topic which do you want 8 channel threadripper or 4 channel overclockable threadripper - it seems the non hedt threadripper with 8 chan is more hedt but what do i know?
Plug And Play... you only need to set nomodeset, then you have to...
How is that Plug and Play?
Well it is if you don't do a fresh install and just update the kernel and mesa before changing your gfx card.
Though, in a matter of days or months every distro will have a driver up-to-date enough to allow a plug and play install.
Yeah the only difference with Nvidia is that you'll install the driver instead of upgrading the kernel.
My thoughts exactly, thats far from ideal.
This is a VERY exciting time for linux!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
garuda os, jus i can say i use arch btw, lmao nah its same os as my steamdeck and i put decky on it bahaha
So will this work for the 7800xt?
I've had a terrible experience so far
*promosm* 😃
Anyone know if rhis works good with arch?
The Linux channel is the best channel
If this card had come in at $250 it would have been such a banger....
It's faster than the 6650xt that had an MSRP of 400$ while it has a starting MSRP of 270$, in a few months we'll probably see some sales down by 250$ but overall 270 isn't half bad, especially when you look at nvidia's 4060, zero performance gain for the same price.
@@PineyJustice It's practically the same performance as a 6650XT and only has 8GB which is already now becoming a serious problem. The $400 MSRP of the 6650XT was very much "crypto inspired" considering it is only marginally faster than the 5700XT which also had an MSRP of $400. So all things considered $270 is the absolute stretch without being outright insulting. If this had been a 12GB product I wouldn't have blinked if they said $300. That wouldn't exactly represent insane progress over the $400 5700XT/6650XT, but it would be progress none the less. What we have here should have been called the 7500XT and been $250 at most.
@@andersjjensen It's a 7600 non xt, the xt version will be better, this is the lowest card of the lineup... 8gb is fine for 1080p, a model this far down the lineup isn't doing 1440p in any game from the last 4 years where vram would be a problem.
@@PineyJustice There are already games today (quite a few) where you have to dial down texture quality at 1080p. And this isn't a "5 class" card. The last time this happened was the GTX 960 2GB and it got ripped in reviews. If this had been the 7500XT (and priced accordingly) it wouldn't be a problem. But it's not. And it's not like AMD couldn't have seen this coming. Games took a similar route with the PS3 and PS4. As soon as Current Gen Console-only games come out their PC ports are going to present a challenge. And since AMD made chips for both the PS4 and PS5, and the various XBoxes sans the original, they knew this. 12GB was always going to be the requirement of the lower midrange and midrange (as opposed to the entry level where dialing down settings is a given) at this point in time since that's what's available to the game on the PS5/XBsX.
@@andersjjensen 6500xt was 200$, but it had 4gb of vram and only 16cu vs 32 here. And the only time any game is hitting 8gb of vram is when raytracing is enabled at 1080p, not something you're going to be running max RT on. 12gb is a requirement for 1440p or 4k with FSR, not 1080p. The 6600 non xt was right between the 3060 and 3050ti and had a 330$ msrp, this is 60$ cheaper and has significant performance increases, stop pretending it's somewhere in the stack it isn't. Comparing it against last gen cards at firesale prices which will be out of stock very soon is a bad idea, cause those are going to dry up, at least AMD sells them cheap rather than sending them to the landfill like nvidia, although it seem nvidia is smarter for doing so since their previous gen isn't interfering much with their latest scalping.
I'm very glad you mentioned the Deus Ex thing. I subjectively experienced that when I played it for the first time a couple years ago: felt like I was going crazy. After confirming with metrics that it ran better under proton (higher and more consistent FPS, fewer stutters, etc), I just assumed that maybe it was just my environment being wonky. Kinda weird to think what that might mean for the future of gaming...
If wayland, multiple monitors, and VRR ever start working for me with nvidia i'll have very little reason not to convert fully.
Huh forgot I was still subbed to this channel, well not anymore I'm not. Bye.
It's not like Nvidia is really any more difficult to install. Most 'complete' distros auto-install the drivers for you. About the only thing you don't get with Nvidia on Linux is good Wayland support (which is basically in a perpetual pre-alpha state anyway).
Recommended rtx instead of rx to a friend just a week ago. He does 1440p gaming on windows.
Rtx still a deal maker i dunno
Still this is great to see
Please note this card is PCI-E x8 electrically.